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Ken and Friends Juneteenth Concert Preview and Reactions - #97 · The Grounded Show

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  When the alliance is an allies still tied to them. Just a reminder not
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  just all these people in my set, but not just that, but also
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  like you know, doing it on Juneteenth. And the whole point that he
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  was making is that, like Drake's not part of the culture. You know
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  what I'm saying, Like that all kind of makes sense, you know,
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  you know, you know what also attributes to that is that that might have
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  caused the delay and their response because it's like, I need to get it
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  too as close as Juneteenth as possible and it should still be relevant when that
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  comes out. Yeah, it's crazy though he he basically let Drake himself show
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  how disconnected he was with the culture for real, because like it's it's two
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  different I mean, you know, just from my vantage point, it's two
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  different things. The culture as far as like hip hop culture, things like
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  that and everything that includes Puerto Ricans, that includes white that includes everybody.
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  You know what I'm saying, that's like a whole you know, Hispanics,
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  white people, everybody's part of the hip hop culture. Black culture is a
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  different thing. That's the thing that Kendrick kind of I mean, not Kendrick,
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  but that's the thing that Drake kind of showed, you know, kind
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  of looked foolish on because he kind of fed right into Kendrick's hand. But
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  also he proved Kendrick's point basically like yeah, bro, you're showing that you're
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  not connected to the black culture. Like yeah, you're you're for this culture,
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  but you're not really for you know who your dad is, you know
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  the actual you know the backstory behind this. Like that's another thing that they
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  say about the Toronto thing, you know, being from Canada where it's like
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  you're not really in the US seeing the same thing. So he's just so
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  disconnected where it's like you almost can't even you know, really know what's going
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  on because of it, you know what I'm saying, right, But to
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  me, to me, also, one thing I've noticed, and this is
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  because I know my family in the West Coast in the Bay Area still to
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  this day and the music and the rappers they listen to, Drake is out
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  of touch with the West Coast. Same thing as that same thing as like
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  the YG I can't even think of another West Coast rapper that he has alliances
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  to that tie him to the West Coast crowd and the West Coast crowd don't
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  listen to his ship like that. Like my cousins don't funk with his ship
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  at all. And they're younger than me, same age as me. They
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  just stick to the They just stick to the strict West Coast rappers, the
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  classic dudes, the black rappers, those are the people they follow. And
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  that is the ties that Kendrick is also saying too. It's not just the
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  black people, yeah, but also the West Coast, Yeah, because the
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  West Coast is more like you like Alabasas. Yeah, people, that's not
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  West Coast exactly, Like you're going to the glamorous side and you're kind of,
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  you know, hanging with the stars and things like that. And it
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  goes right back to the you know, taking from the culture thing. You
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  know, you like to come out here and enjoy the amenities and you know
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  the stuff that hip hop has afforded you, but you're not really tapped in
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  like that. And he used to have a Game emember when Game had him
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  on that one hundred. Yeah, and Game hasn't pushed Drake at all.
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  And he went to YG and and I don't see any other West Coast rappers,
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  big West Coast artists supporting Drake to this day. Right now, I
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  think the more like I think the thing that like was the beginning of like
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  kind of I wouldn't call it the demise of Drake because that's not going to
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  happen, but just the beginning of people seeing the situation for what it really
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  was, was him constantly latching on to the next big thing. Eventually,
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  those big things become in the industry and it's just they're a part of the
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  industry to the point where, you know what I mean, now that conversations
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  are being had where the experiences are similar, and now everybody has this perspective
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  of Drake being a leech, you know what I'm saying, Like you're leaching
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  off the culture basically. I feel like, also, it's a thing where
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  when you think about Drake and you think about, you know, the the
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  situation he's in just musically and the things he does, and his coming from
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  movies and TV in Canada, you know what I'm saying, Like he was
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  a TV star. So it's kind of like people already had that thing in
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  their head a little bit of like, Okay, so you're basically playing a
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  role because this is where you came from. You know, we saw you
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  publicly, how you grew up. We knew what you were about. Now
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  you're telling us something different. And then on top of that, I feel
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  like a big shift that happened recently was the album that he dropped. I
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  don't remember the name or whatever, but it was an album that he dropped
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  with a lot of features with new artists and a lot of like those legacy
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  type artists. None of them were on it, you know what I'm saying,
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  Like established artists, you know, like you're saying Joe, you know,
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  those tapped in West Coast artists, like you're saying Joe. I mean,
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  like you're saying Quincy, just like other people in the industry, like
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  showing their lines or whatever. He was rapping with all these new dudes and
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  rapping like them, and a lot of those dudes that he had on that
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  album, like they're kind of nobody right now, you know what I'm saying,
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  Like as far as the features go, and it's him attaching himself to
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  those microwave artists and not really having those ties in the culture for real.
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  That is kind of like coming back and biting them. Now, did we
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  share the video of Pete Davison about him being on SNL. Drake being on
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  SNL, Nah, I don't think we talked about that. So Pete Davison
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  was Pete Rosenberg, Oh, Peter Rosenberg Okay, yeah, yeah, And
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  Peter Rosenberg asked him. He's like, oh, what did Drake give y'all
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  when he went to do the SNL. And he's like, oh, he's
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  a great guy. He gave us like custom ov YOSNL jerseys. He's like,
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  I'm gonna tell you right now, Drake is the greatest actor in the
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  world. He's like, this is great. He has literally played a gangster
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  rapper for twenty years and he's been so good at it. And Peter Roseberg
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  Glass he's like, no, He's like, people take this as a disc
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  but he's like, I'm trying to tell you he has literally played this character
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  of being a gangster rapper. He has played a character that he found fit
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  and that people believe for all this time. And he's he's like and he's
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  just he's like, he's a super sweet fucking guy. He's like, he's
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  not a gangster at all. He's a really nice fucking dude. But he's
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  an actor and he plays this character to be an artist, and he successfully
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  developed the career for me. And this is like one of the most hidden
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  quotes I've ever seen that doesn't go viral, and it explains a lot about
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  who Drake is. Yeah, and that's why Kendrick Kulibar called him b rap
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  for Malibu's Most Wanted Yeah, literally don't be Yeah it is. It's something
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  that when you grow up in that environment and you really see what it's about,
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  like being around black culture, being around a hip hop culture, just
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  when you see it, you know when it's real. And I feel like
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  that's the thing that a lot of people that I know that don't like Drake
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  that's always been their thing with him. It's like they see it and they
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  can spot it from a mile away because it's something I mentioned before. Drake
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  is that dude that you see at the club that you know he fake and
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  he just playing for the club. I want to have one more point that
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  Peter Rosenbig Murg Rosenberg made that reminded me of Lesson that He's like, that's
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  the quality between me and Drake. Because I love Drake as an artist and
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  I love the ship. He's really good music maker. But when he's when
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  he asks add a character, I know that's not him. That's what I
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  don't like. That's exactly what he said. It's like I've said before,
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  Man, I can make the greatest hits of Drake's songs, and I'm not
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  even a Drake fan. I can just grab his and stuff and his more
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  vulnerable stuff because that's Drake to me. You know what I'm saying. You
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  hear it in the music. It's real. You know what I'm saying.
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  You hear it with the writing, You hear with the tones, you hear
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  it with the way he's singing it. That's why he got all these ghostwriters
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  for this new stuff, because it's not him, Bro, it's not authentic.
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  He needs writers because he's not telling his own story. All this tough
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  guy, mobster stuff that's not you, bro, that ain't even almost you.
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  You know what I'm saying. It's it's it's so easy to spot when
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  you when you've really seen somebody that's real. You know what I'm saying.
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  Is it kind of like and sometimes I think about it, is it kind
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  of like when a wrestler like, well, no, because these wrestlers,
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  they're a lot true to their craft. But when a wrestler retires and you
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  hear their like hall of Fame speech and you realize they were nothing who they
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  played themselves out to be that we loved about them. But this is the
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  difference in wrestling then music. In wrestling, he can act however he wants,
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  but when he gets in the ring, you know that he's putting his
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  body on the line. You can't fake that, you know what I'm saying.
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  With Drake, it's like you see what he's doing and you can say,
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  yeah, it's dope, But then you see quote unquote him of the
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  ring, which is what he's doing, how he moves, how he operates,
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  you know, like all that is calculated. That's the thing that's funny
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  to me about Drake and other people like this too, because it's not just
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  Drake, but Drake is very meticulous and calculated with the stuff that he lets
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  out as far as information. He's very in charge of his like public perception.
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  He's very choosy with like how he presents himself as far as interviews,
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  different things like that. All that planning that you're doing with how you look
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  to the world, and you still come off as a corn ball bro it's
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  crazy, Dog, Like you're in complete control of this whole situation and you
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  still look corny and we still know you ain't real, you know what I'm
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  saying. And it's like, like I said, Bro, at the end
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  of the day, you can't fake it. Bro. It's like this,
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  like you were saying with wrestlers Joe Wrestling, you can't fake it, dog.
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  You you know you throw yourself on the in the ring, it's gonna
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  hurt, You're gonna see the impact. You can't fake it. When you
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  see those guys that be trying to act like you know, they doing stuff
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  and they trying to take those soft falls and you know, overacting so they
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  don't get hit and stuff like that, that's when you know, Oh,
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  he ain't about this, Bro, he ain't about this. And that's Drake
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  roight, he ain't about it what we say. I like the Drake with
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  the melodies. Yeah, I don't like Drake when he hacking tough Dog,
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  I swear it. I was like when he said that, I was like,
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  Bro, I felt so validated, Bro, because that's exactly how I
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  feel. I've been saying that. But yeah, man, it looks like
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  they prepping for Kendrick to come out. Y'all want to stay on for that
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  or what I said with it too. We can kind of just keep talking
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  about stuff or whatever were here. We can chop that up for the podcast
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  feed, you know, because obviously just us watching you know, a concert
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  is not going to do anything. So we'll chop this middle part that we're
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  talking out. I thought it was gonna start. I'm tripping. Let me
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  throw it back. You don't say like the links to the concert feeders in
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  there, But I'm gonna actually, when I go back to it, I'm
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  gonna load it up in Prime video because I'm I have Prime so I won't
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  get any ads. I'm pulling it up right now. Yo. I was
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  watching Tupac and Snoop House of Blues and Marito Americans was wanting and this literally
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  brought me back to that. I was just I don't know why it was
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  on there, Like I was just YouTube and I saw that I was like
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  fucking missed to it, and this only brought me back to that. That's
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  the only time to me back to that I brought was saying in the beginning,
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  this feels like that Michael Jackson concert to me, and fucking lived up
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  to the height show crazy crazy, Well, we got a two hours.
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  If I'm in the show, you're gonna cut it off, always gotta cut
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  it by this own. We have some good moments. No, fuck,
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  wow, that's crazy. We'll do wrap up because I could do wrap up.
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  Yeah, let's do it quick wrap yeah. Wow. Man, can
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  imagine being there for that show though great, yoh, epic, epic.
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  I would have felt like a sense of like almost like a hip hop rebird.
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  Bro. That would have felt like a hip hop out there. Had
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  to be the craziest feeling. Fuck. That was crazy wow. I could
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  not have expected that at all, like in that capacity. Holy hell,
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  Bro, I've been to one hundred one hundred festivals watching that and picture myself
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  in there. And that's what I do on occasion on the weekends, I
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  throw on live performances on YouTube, like if I was there. I tried
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  to do some concert live performances. But what he did tonight, I haven't
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  felt more than I was there than that fucking performance tonight. I really felt
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  like I was fucking there. Chrast. Thanks wow man. Honestly, Bro,
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  I'm just glad that we caught that and we recorded it. Because wow,
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  that was that was legendary, that was all time. That's gonna be
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  one of those things he's gonna be talked about in music forever. Bro.
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  Thanks Wow, all right man, let's let's let's get out of here.
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  This is crazy, niggas, stay but happy. June tem you feel me
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  at, not nothing a thing