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Girl, 11, GONE, NAZI-FREAK SEX PERV 'GAVE RIDE TO SCHOOL' · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grease. An eleven year old little girl.
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Speaker 1: Just let that so ken just eleven years old. Let's
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Speaker 1: see what graded that would be? Seven, eight, nine, ten,
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Speaker 1: eleven fifth grade max fifth grade is missing, of course,
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about eleven year old Audrey Conningham missing out
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Speaker 1: of Texas. She goes missing en route to school. As
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Speaker 1: we go to air right now, we are learning that
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Speaker 1: there is a gathering of LA law enforcement around a
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Speaker 1: near by area. Our eyes are on that as we proceed.
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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us here at Crime Stories and on series
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Speaker 1: XM one eleven. Listen to the mom would just like to.
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Speaker 2: Get the word out that would we would like to
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Speaker 2: have her come home. It's not like her to, you know,
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Speaker 2: just run off forward, disappears. She has a lot of
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Speaker 2: loving families. She has so many people that.
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Speaker 3: Love her and adore her.
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Speaker 2: She is very well taking care of child, and we
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Speaker 2: just we miss her. We don't understand, and any and
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Speaker 2: all help would be greatly appreciated. And I just I
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Speaker 2: want the words spread around as far as possible. If
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Speaker 2: you see her, please contact you know, your local police.
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Speaker 1: What do you do when your child goes missing, Run
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Speaker 1: through the house, screaming for the child. Look in the yard,
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Speaker 1: start running in the neighborhood. Call nine point one. This mother,
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Speaker 1: Cassie Matthews, begging for our help, begging for your help
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Speaker 1: to find her eleven year old little girl, Audrey. And
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Speaker 1: this is what Ellie has to say. Listen.
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Speaker 4: I want to say the investigators are following active leads
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Speaker 4: based on tips that and evidence that we have gathered.
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Speaker 4: The videos submitted to investigators by the community have been
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Speaker 4: very helpful. We're looking for and asking the public's help
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Speaker 4: for additional video on FM thirty one twenty six that
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Speaker 4: shows the highway. This video would have been on Thursday
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Speaker 4: February fifteenth, between six thirty am and eight am.
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Speaker 1: Oh my stars, just like a needle in a haystack
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Speaker 1: asking for video of the highway. But listen, it works.
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Speaker 1: Brian Koberger perfect example. What happened to the four i'd
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Speaker 1: host students? Well, I've been there myself. There is a
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Speaker 1: seven to eleven gas station at It's not very populated,
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Speaker 1: but at a particular corner near the King Road crime scene.
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Speaker 1: You got to come to I believe it's a four
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Speaker 1: way stop right there. The clerk at the seven to
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Speaker 1: eleven herself, sat there and went through surveillance video hour
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Speaker 1: after hour after hour on her own time, I might add,
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Speaker 1: and catches Brian Coburger's car going by around three am
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Speaker 1: in the morning the night of the murders, four am
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Speaker 1: in the morning the night of the murders, and that,
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Speaker 1: among other things, cracked that case wide open. So it
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Speaker 1: is possible, It is possible for anybody with a dash
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Speaker 1: can or ring phone, anybody with access to any video
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Speaker 1: surveillance along this area needs to come forward. Now. We
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Speaker 1: are looking for an eleven year old, helpless little girl.
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Speaker 1: Is she alive? Is she dead? Is she being raped
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Speaker 1: right now? Is she being tormented? Is she alone? Is
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Speaker 1: she crying out for her mother? Where is this child?
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Speaker 1: I hate to ask jurrrs this as a matter of
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Speaker 1: fact in the law you are disallowed from asking a
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Speaker 1: girrr to place themselves in the shoes of the victim.
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Speaker 1: But think about it, what if this is your child?
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Speaker 1: You're eleven year old little girl missing? With me and
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Speaker 1: all star pedal to make sense of what we know
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Speaker 1: right now. First to Carla Castillo, joining us anchor Morning
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Speaker 1: ep kBT X News Carla, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Let's just start the morning Audrey disappears. This has just
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Speaker 1: happened feb fifteen. There's still time, There is still time.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about that morning. First of all, where does
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Speaker 1: Audrey Cunningham live? What's the jurisdiction? Where did this happen?
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Speaker 1: Where's Livingston?
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Speaker 5: So this is in It is about seventy miles north
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Speaker 5: of Houston. We are based in Brian, Texas. That's where
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Speaker 5: I live, and that's about an hour and a half
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Speaker 5: away for a months. So this is in an area
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Speaker 5: that many of our community members. They go to Lake
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Speaker 5: living Ston for recreation purposes, for hunting, things like that.
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Speaker 5: But this is an area that is just north of Houston.
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Speaker 5: And you think about I know, as a mom, I
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Speaker 5: think about February fifteenth. I'm thinking it's a day after
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Speaker 5: Valentine's Day. My kiddo has just celebrated Valentine's Day. And
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Speaker 5: this is not something that's on your mind. And that's
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Speaker 5: not what you asked me. But it's very heartbreaking to
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Speaker 5: think about this happening, especially, you know, in a time
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Speaker 5: when we're thinking about love and friendship and such. Just
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Speaker 5: a terrible time.
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Speaker 1: And so what they pause, pause, call a castello. I
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Speaker 1: want all the information you have to give me. But
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Speaker 1: jumping off what you just said, let's analyze that. Cheryl
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Speaker 1: McCollum joining me, Founder director of the Cold Case Research Institute,
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Speaker 1: star of zeb Seventh Hit podcast, and a forensics expert.
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Speaker 1: We were in the trenches together for many, many years.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, right off the bat, let's hit it seventy
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Speaker 1: miles north of Houston. That says to me, it's probably
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Speaker 1: not a perv from Houston. Number one. That's too far.
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Speaker 1: They're not going to drive seventy miles to find a victim.
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Speaker 1: Mark that out. But Lake Livingston wreck, A lot of
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Speaker 1: people with vacation homes on the lake know the area.
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Speaker 1: It's near Audrey's home. I could see that a purp
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Speaker 1: coming from there, thoughts in a nutshell.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, you're correct.
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Speaker 7: You've got that reservoir that's over eight hundred acres. The
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Speaker 7: perpetrator most likely knows this area. There's no doubt about it. Nancy,
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Speaker 7: you and I both know the first three hours are
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Speaker 7: critical this perpetrator. If he took her prior to the
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Speaker 7: bus stop and the family did not realize she was
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Speaker 7: not at school, roughly had nine.
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Speaker 1: Hours, which is making me sick. I haven't even gotten
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Speaker 1: that far, But you're right. I'm gonna circle back to
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Speaker 1: Carlic Castillo on that. Yeah, she didn't show up at
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Speaker 1: school and nobody called mommy. Oh hey, I get a
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Speaker 1: note immediately at eight oh six if the children are
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Speaker 1: not where they're supposed to be at their school, You
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Speaker 1: darn right I do so. Why nothing, you can't text me? Why?
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Speaker 1: That's a whole other can of worms talking about the lake?
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Speaker 1: How does it play? In? Listen to Sydney Summer Crime Online.
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Speaker 3: The town of Livingston, Texas, is about seventy miles northeast
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Speaker 3: of Houston, in a place that seems perfect to raise
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Speaker 3: a family. Nearby Lake Livingston State Park provides outdoor activities
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Speaker 3: from fishing to boating, swimming, and hiking, with over eighty
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Speaker 3: three thousand surface acres. Eleven year old Audrey Cunningham lives
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Speaker 3: with her dad and grandparents about five miles from the
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Speaker 3: lake in a quiet neighborhood where neighbors still know one
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Speaker 3: another by name. Audrey walks to her bus stop most
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Speaker 3: mornings and has made friends with some neighborhood pets that
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Speaker 3: she always stops to pet on her way to the
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Speaker 3: bus stop or on the way home.
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Speaker 1: That's really good information. She stops on the way to
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Speaker 1: the bus stop. She meanders and pets animals on the way.
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Speaker 1: Also very signific the Kent Let me go to Lanta.
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Speaker 1: Shadwick attorney, former Harris County judge and prosecutor. You can
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Speaker 1: find her Atlantashadwick dot com. You know Atlanta. Also, the
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Speaker 1: pop is about just wrote it down a little old,
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Speaker 1: almost six thousand and twenty nine people, almost almost, and
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Speaker 1: that says a lot to me. As opposed to somewhere
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Speaker 1: like Chicago, Detroit, New York City, Atlanta, you've got a
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Speaker 1: much much smaller suspect pool.
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Speaker 8: It's well not only a small suspect pool, but the
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Speaker 8: community is just besides themselves. They're greening, and there's no
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Speaker 8: way any accused can get a fair trial here. That's
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Speaker 8: that's another issue.
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Speaker 1: Lanna. You're talking like a true judge, a former prosecutor,
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Speaker 1: but we're putting the cart before the horse trial trial.
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Speaker 1: Let me just find the girl first, Doctor Bethany Marshall.
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Speaker 1: You heard what Cheryl McCollum just said. The first three hours,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, high profile psycho analyst joining us out
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Speaker 1: of La Dr Bethnymarshall dot com. I heard the mom.
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Speaker 1: I heard the mom, Cassie Matthews. Unlike Susan Smith who
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Speaker 1: was blubbering and snotting and carrying on after she murdered
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Speaker 1: her boys, this mom sounds real, Nancy.
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Speaker 6: She's genuine, She's distraught. She does not know what to do.
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Speaker 6: This mother has no idea what happened. I can hear
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Speaker 6: that in her voice. And in terms of the kidnapping,
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Speaker 6: you know, stranger abductions are more rare than abductions at
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Speaker 6: the hand of non custodial caregivers, so you know, when
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Speaker 6: they move in from the lake towards family members. I
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Speaker 6: would wonder in this town of five thousand people, are
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Speaker 6: there relatives scattered about? Are there people who take care
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Speaker 6: of this child when she meanders to the bus stop?
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Speaker 6: Are there other people who kind of like as you said,
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Speaker 6: they watch after her, But are any of them caregivers?
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Speaker 6: Are any of them babysitters? I think that would be
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Speaker 6: like very important question.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about
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Speaker 1: the disappearance of an eleven year old girl out of
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Speaker 1: Texas Livingston Popless's six thousand, much smaller community. Where is Audrey?
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Speaker 1: What more do we know?
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Speaker 3: Listen On the afternoon of Thursday, February fifteen, Audrey Cunningham
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Speaker 3: doesn't arrive home at her usual time. Family members look
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Speaker 3: around for her, assuming she got distracted on her walk
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Speaker 3: home from the bus stop. As they look over the
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Speaker 3: neighborhood and search the woodline behind her house that leads
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Speaker 3: to the lake, panic sets in as nobody has seen
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Speaker 3: Audrey walking home from the bus stop. Police are notified
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Speaker 3: at five thirty pm and an Amber alert is issued
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Speaker 3: for eleven year old Audrey Cunningham.
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Speaker 1: Okay, sad to say, day late, dollars short? Why it's
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Speaker 1: not LA law enforcement. It's not the parent's fault. It's
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Speaker 1: not mommy or daddy's fault. It's not grandma's fault. It's
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Speaker 1: the school's fault because they did not tell the parents
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Speaker 1: she did not make it school that morning. What does
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Speaker 1: that mean? That means the purp has a good nine
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Speaker 1: to ten hours lead. Think about it, ten hours, ten hours,
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Speaker 1: nine hours time, sixty miles in an hour. That's a
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Speaker 1: lot of miles, right for your little girl to be
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Speaker 1: in the car with a purp. Atlanta Shadwick. What school
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Speaker 1: district is this?
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Speaker 9: It's Livingston isd and parents.
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Speaker 10: In the small town, small county or asking why they like,
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Speaker 10: did I not know that my child got to school
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Speaker 10: or didn't make it that day?
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Speaker 9: There's some kind of automated system whereby it and personally
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Speaker 9: called and says, you know, there's some kind of system
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Speaker 9: that just says child didn't show up today or something.
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Speaker 1: They got a question for you. Alanta Shadwick, By the way, guys,
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Speaker 1: Lanta is a high profile lawyer in this jurisdiction in Levingston, Texas,
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Speaker 1: former Harris County judge and prosecutor. You can find her
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Speaker 1: at Lantashadwick dot com. Lanta. The notice I get is
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Speaker 1: email and text. I get both. But I'm wondering if
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Speaker 1: this automated system that Lewiston Independent School District has, could
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Speaker 1: it be a phone call? Could it be a call
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Speaker 1: to the home and it just takes a message and
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Speaker 1: nobody's there.
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Speaker 8: I understand it was a phone call. Maybe it's a
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Speaker 8: text message also, And absolutely whether it's the text message
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Speaker 8: that's automated or a phone call, you can make it
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Speaker 8: and nobody's looking at it.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is what I'm understanding that. Hey, joining me
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Speaker 1: right now is Chris donna form a homicide detective, has
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Speaker 1: been on many many cases where a child goes missing.
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Speaker 1: I found him during the Brian Kolberger investigation. We're still
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Speaker 1: waiting for that trial to ever happen. In his YouTube
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Speaker 1: channel called the Interview Room, and that's you know. I
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Speaker 1: was telling you earlier about that gas station where the
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Speaker 1: clerk saw the video and told cops. That's where I
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Speaker 1: first saw the gas station on the interview room because
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Speaker 1: he was driving about one and a half miles an
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Speaker 1: hour all around Moscow, Idaho, and I saw it like
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Speaker 1: being and then I went to it later. That's how
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Speaker 1: I found out about it through Chris McDonough. Chris McDonough,
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Speaker 1: I just got thank you for joining us. I just
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Speaker 1: got off the phone double checking as statistic with my
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Speaker 1: longtime friend and colleague. You all know him well, he's
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Speaker 1: the gold standard mark class and he gave me the staty.
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Speaker 1: Do you know, Chris mcdonna, I hope you're sitting down.
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Speaker 1: You may need to lay down for this one. Over
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Speaker 1: thirty percent of child abductions our school related at the
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Speaker 1: bus stop, going to the bus stop, walking to school,
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Speaker 1: walking home, taking the bus home, taking the bike home.
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Speaker 1: Thirty percent plus of all child abductions are school transport related.
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Speaker 1: What about that, mcdona.
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Speaker 11: That is definitely a shocking statistic, Nancy. And you know
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Speaker 11: the fact that that statistic is so high in today's
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Speaker 11: society just causes us to, you know, just wait and
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Speaker 11: pause and ponder what your exposure. Our children are having
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Speaker 11: to subjects for who feel that they need to take them.
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Speaker 6: As Nancy, I don't find that shocking at all.
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Speaker 1: I really, guys, you're hearing doctor Bethany Marshall, high profile psychoanalyst,
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Speaker 1: joining us out of LA. Please jump in, doctor Bethany.
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Speaker 6: I still respect Chris McDonough by. And it's true it's
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Speaker 6: shocking on one level, but on another, it's not shocking.
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Speaker 6: School grounds, bus stops, they are feeding grounds for predators.
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Speaker 6: Where is a predator, where is a child molestor a pedophile?
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Speaker 6: Going to work at daycare, a school, maybe become the
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Speaker 6: choir director at the church, a camp, counselor they are
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Speaker 6: going to gravitate anywhere where there are large groups of children.
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Speaker 6: So your child is not safest at church, at school,
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Speaker 6: at summer camp. And I always say no one should
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Speaker 6: be more interested in your child than you. So just
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Speaker 6: because you have somebody visiting the house and showing interest,
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Speaker 6: and you know a group of people gathering lovingly around
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Speaker 6: your child, you still have to look very carefully at
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Speaker 6: who those people are.
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Speaker 1: I've handled case after case after case where children go
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Speaker 1: missing en route to the bus stop, at the bus stop,
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Speaker 1: on the way home from school to school, you name it.
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Speaker 1: And one that really sticks in my mind is a
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Speaker 1: little girl I'll never get her name out of my head,
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Speaker 1: Alanna Jeffriese. Listen.
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Speaker 12: Cleveland police asking the community for help finding a missing teenager.
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Speaker 12: Fourteen year old Aliana da Frieze is developmentally challenged, so
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Speaker 12: even though she is physically fourteen, she's mentally and emotionally
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Speaker 12: about the age of an eight or nine year old.
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Speaker 12: Aliana da Frieze is sweet, outgoing, and very trusting. Her mother,
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Speaker 12: Denisia Cooper, put her on the bus at six thirty
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Speaker 12: eight am. Surveillance video shows Aliana getting off the bus.
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Speaker 12: A short time later, surveillance video from a business shows
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Speaker 12: Dafrieze and another girl outside of McDonald's, and later video
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Speaker 12: shows Aleana da Frieze outside True Gospel Missionary Baptist church
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Speaker 12: where Christopher Whittaker approaches Da Frieze and leads her away
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Speaker 12: from the church. Surveillance video then shows Whittaker leading to
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Speaker 12: Freeze through a field and then what happened After leading
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Speaker 12: Aliana Da Frieze through a field. Christopher Whittaker takes the
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Speaker 12: fourteen year old to an abandoned house where he rapes
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Speaker 12: the girl. Whittaker then uses a black and decker drill,
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Speaker 12: a Phillip's headscrewdriver, a nut driver, a box cutter, and
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Speaker 12: a hammer to beat and stab Aleana Da Freeze to death.
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Speaker 12: DeFreeze dies as a result of stab wounds and multiple
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Speaker 12: blood for his injuries. To Free's body is found in
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Speaker 12: the abandoned house, but has to be identified by DNA.
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Speaker 12: Whittaker has tried, convicted, and sentenced to death for the
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Speaker 12: murder of fourteen year old Aleana Da Frieze.
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Speaker 1: We know that that morning, the morning that Audrey Cunningham,
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Speaker 1: just eleven years old, gets on supposed to get on
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Speaker 1: the bus, she does not, that she disappears from school.
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Speaker 1: She never even got on the bus. Listen to Rachel
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Speaker 1: Bunia Crime.
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Speaker 13: Stories discovering Audrey Cunningham never got on the bus. Please
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Speaker 13: ask for help from the community investigators, ask for security
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Speaker 13: video people might have from the area or of the
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Speaker 13: vehicle of interest, a dark blue two thousand and three
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Speaker 13: Chevrolette suburban. They also have a person of interest the
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Speaker 13: last person known to be with all Adrea Hunningham Don
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Speaker 13: Stephen McDougall.
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Speaker 1: Lanta Shadwick, high profile lawyer joining us out of Livingston.
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Speaker 1: This jurisdiction in Texas. How far from the family home
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Speaker 1: to the bus stop?
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Speaker 8: Half mile from what I've seen on social media?
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Speaker 1: And you know what else, let me throw this to you,
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany, Chris McDonough, Carlic Castillo, Lanta, Shadowy anybody. We
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Speaker 1: would typically walk home from school every day. It was
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Speaker 1: a mile, but to get to school would walk two
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Speaker 1: blocks to the bus stop. But in this day and
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Speaker 1: age a half a mile. That's a pretty good walk
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Speaker 1: for a little girl first thing in the morning. Carla Castilla.
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Speaker 1: Do we know what time she typically left the home
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Speaker 1: to get to the bus stop.
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Speaker 5: No, not officially, unfortunately, but I know in some of
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Speaker 5: our rural communities we do have kiddos who go out
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Speaker 5: there a little bit earlier six forty five and earlier
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Speaker 5: because of the time it takes to walk to the
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Speaker 5: bus and then for the bus to get to the school.
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Speaker 6: Well, not only is a half a mile a long
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Speaker 6: walk for an eight year old, this is not along
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Speaker 6: pastures and rural roads. This is in front of houses
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Speaker 6: where the same people see her day after day after day.
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Speaker 6: What if there's a predator in that neighborhood. Remember Chanelle
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Speaker 6: who was found stuffed in a garbage can and the
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Speaker 6: perpetrator was somebody who.
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Speaker 1: Live Chanel Petro Nixon.
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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, the perpetrator lived in the apartment buildings, so
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Speaker 6: he saw her repeatedly over time. Little Jessica Lunsford remember,
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Speaker 6: buried with her little pet dolphin stuffed animal. It was
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Speaker 6: somebody in the neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: Well, Caddy Corner from her.
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Speaker 6: Home, Pattie Corner who saw her.
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Speaker 1: Was a registered sex offender, a kooie remember him, Jay Cooey? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: hey rotten hell. But you know you're reminding me Dr
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Speaker 1: Bethany of something I would always tell yourrs. Perps cove
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Speaker 1: it at which they see. In other words, that's why
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Speaker 1: you look close to home, then you move out, then
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Speaker 1: you move out, then you move out. So yes, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: well that's why.
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Speaker 6: When children are abducted and killed. They're usually buried within
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Speaker 6: a quarter mile of the family home because it's children
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Speaker 6: in that area. The Delphie murders, remember, it was a
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Speaker 6: man who worked in a pharmacy that found like little Abigail,
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Speaker 6: you know, accosted Abigail and her friend because he saw
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Speaker 6: them come in and out again and again.
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Speaker 1: In this case, doctor Bethany is completely correct. Who in
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Speaker 1: the hay would drive this child to school when she
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Speaker 1: was running late, typically leaving around seven am in the morning,
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Speaker 1: which is also significant in a nutshell, Chris mag data,
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Speaker 1: because violent crimes usually don't happen that early in the morning.
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Speaker 11: Agree, disagree, Agree, And this is why that to me,
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Speaker 11: that thirty percent is so significant because across the country,
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Speaker 11: within the first three hours of a child being abducted,
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Speaker 11: there's a high probability that child's life was taken as well.
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Speaker 11: And you know, statistically across the country about forty five
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Speaker 11: hundred children are abducted, which is about one percent of
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Speaker 11: the total number in relationship to you know, high risk
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Speaker 11: and stranger abduction. So this little girl walking potentially to
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Speaker 11: her bus stop at such a late hour puts her
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Speaker 11: at a very very you know, high risk situation for
21:33
Speaker 11: an offender.
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Speaker 1: Now enter the forty two year old family friend covered
21:42
Speaker 1: with tattoos including a swastika, who is a friend of
21:47
Speaker 1: the family. Listened to Nicole Parton.
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Speaker 14: Audrey Cunningham's dad has a friend of his is staying
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Speaker 14: in a camper in their backyard. His name is Don
21:55
Speaker 14: Stephen McDougall. The forty two year old sometimes gives Audrey
21:59
Speaker 14: a to the bus stop, or if she is running
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Speaker 14: really late and misses the bus, he will take her
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Speaker 14: to school. He occasionally babysits for Audrey when needed, his
22:08
Speaker 14: way of saying thanks for letting him live in the
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Speaker 14: camper in their backyard. On Thursday, February fifteen, Audrey is
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Speaker 14: in her house getting ready to walk to the bus
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Speaker 14: stop like she does most mornings, and Don Stephen McDougall
22:21
Speaker 14: offers to give her a lift.
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Speaker 1: And more we're hearing from Sheriff Byron Lyons listen.
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Speaker 15: He was was supbably taking her to the dropping off
22:31
Speaker 15: at the bus stop, and we do feel at this
22:34
Speaker 15: point that he was the last person who's seen Audrey.
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Speaker 15: There has been information found that there are some occasions
22:41
Speaker 15: that he did drop her off at the bus stop
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Speaker 15: or even take her to school if she missed the bus.
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Speaker 1: Who is this guy number one? He's got a big
22:53
Speaker 1: fat Nazi swastika right there on his left shoulder. You
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Speaker 1: can't miss it because he's so fond opposing for photos
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Speaker 1: without his shirt on. I can't make out the rest
23:04
Speaker 1: of all those tattoos. They're all a big blur. Carlic Castillo.
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Speaker 1: This guy with the swastika tattoo on his shoulder, who
23:16
Speaker 1: is he?
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Speaker 5: So Don Stephen McDougall, is somebody I, as an adult,
23:20
Speaker 5: would not want to be near. I can't imagine having
23:22
Speaker 5: a child around this man who, in March of two
23:26
Speaker 5: thousand and seven was accused of attempting to engage in
23:29
Speaker 5: sexual contact with the girl under the age of seventeen,
23:32
Speaker 5: and so he has a conviction. There's been a lot
23:34
Speaker 5: of questions as to why he's not a registered sex offender.
23:38
Speaker 5: The conviction was not for something that apparently required him
23:43
Speaker 5: to do that, but it's still icky enough that you,
23:46
Speaker 5: as a parent, as a responsible adult, it feels like
23:49
Speaker 5: you know this is not someone you have around a child.
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Speaker 1: So he was not required to register as a sex offender.
23:56
Speaker 1: Listen now to Lieutenant Craig Cummings.
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Speaker 4: Want to announce the Pope County Crime Stoppers reward has
24:02
Speaker 4: been increased to ten thousand dollars for information leading to
24:06
Speaker 4: the arrest and prosecution of the person responsible. I also
24:10
Speaker 4: want to announce the Pope County Crime Stoppers reward has
24:12
Speaker 4: been increased to ten thousand dollars for information leading to
24:16
Speaker 4: the arrest and prosecution of the person responsible for Audrey's disappearance.
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Speaker 1: Chris mcdunna joining us from the interview room, former homicide detective.
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Speaker 1: Did you see these tattoos?
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Speaker 11: Yes, some of those tattoos obviously come from inside the
24:33
Speaker 11: prison system. There's information that this gentleman McDougall was affiliated
24:41
Speaker 11: with a group called the AB, which is the Aryan Brotherhood,
24:44
Speaker 11: which is a prison gang. And so this guy here
24:49
Speaker 11: would fit the mold in relationship to the PD investigating
24:54
Speaker 11: him first and foremost, well he comes to the top
24:57
Speaker 11: of the show.
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Speaker 1: Shoe McCollum joining US Research Institute forensic expert, Go ahead.
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Speaker 7: The thing about the tattoos that seeks out for me
25:04
Speaker 7: is this guy is often wearing a wife beater where
25:07
Speaker 7: they're exposed or no shirt at all, which tells me
25:11
Speaker 7: he's not hiding. He's not trying to hide who or
25:15
Speaker 7: what he is. Even in one of the photographs he's
25:18
Speaker 7: making a hand sign that looks like the number one
25:21
Speaker 7: and the number two with his middle finger down. That
25:24
Speaker 7: also is for those letters A and B the Arian Brotherhood.
25:28
Speaker 7: So not only are the tattoos exposed, he wants you
25:31
Speaker 7: to know in a photograph who he is.
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Speaker 1: You know what that speaks volumes to me. Dr Bethany Marshall.
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Speaker 1: Why is this animal out of the prison system, And
25:43
Speaker 1: that's where you get these tattoos, not in the county
25:46
Speaker 1: jail like in Mayberry where Otis checks himself in and
25:48
Speaker 1: out talking about the pen He has tattoos from the penitentiary.
25:55
Speaker 1: And he's not ashamed. Like Cheryl said, a swastika. That
25:59
Speaker 1: thing's got to be orange is tall right there on
26:02
Speaker 1: his shoulder, which would show in a wife beater.
26:05
Speaker 5: He's holding a.
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Speaker 6: Beer can in his hands.
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Speaker 1: Holding a whole beer is not a felony. But I'm
26:13
Speaker 1: telling you, I know, crazingly showing off. And it's on
26:16
Speaker 1: his Facebook. It's on his Facebook, that's where I saw it.
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Speaker 1: He posted it, Nancy.
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Speaker 6: He's prisoner identified. That means that he's not identified with
26:26
Speaker 6: being like a normal civilian out in the public. He's
26:30
Speaker 6: identified with that particular community that lives in penitentiaries. They
26:36
Speaker 6: do have a community, and in terms of hierarchy, in
26:39
Speaker 6: terms of how they work out together, in terms of
26:42
Speaker 6: what kinds of tattoos they have. So I would wonder
26:45
Speaker 6: if this guy has not just been in prison once,
26:47
Speaker 6: but been in and out of the prison multiple times.
26:50
Speaker 6: And that's why he's living in a trailer behind somebody's house.
26:54
Speaker 6: He probably doesn't have long term gainful employment. He probably
26:58
Speaker 6: has short term gigs. I think he's kind of weird
27:02
Speaker 6: that on this one picture he has his shirt off.
27:05
Speaker 6: He has a big belly, but he's completely covered in
27:08
Speaker 6: tattoos from the neck all the way down. I don't
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Speaker 6: know he has his panthon, so I don't know below
27:12
Speaker 6: the bells.
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Speaker 1: Oh wit a minute, Why in the h double L
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Speaker 1: would you let this guy take your eleven year old
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Speaker 1: to school? I mean, did he dupe the parents into
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Speaker 1: thinking he's really a good guy?
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Speaker 14: You know what?
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Speaker 6: I do not want to vilify the parents when they
27:29
Speaker 6: are in a time of great distrust.
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Speaker 1: Not when I asked you, I ask you, did he
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Speaker 1: dupe them?
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Speaker 5: Yes?
27:34
Speaker 6: He probably did? Because Okay, so let me start again.
27:38
Speaker 6: Offenders predators do not just groom a child. They groom
27:42
Speaker 6: the entire family. So usually they become good friends with
27:47
Speaker 6: the parents. Usually they'll offer to do favors for the kids,
27:51
Speaker 6: and they ingratiate themselves and it's not usually until they've
27:54
Speaker 6: been with the family for a long time but they
27:56
Speaker 6: start to molest the child.
27:58
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering, how did the our grandparents know this guy? Well,
28:02
Speaker 1: I think it's okay to have a sex offender. Oh,
28:06
Speaker 1: I've got details on the sex offense the prior Atlanta
28:09
Speaker 1: Shadwick tried not to do a backflip when you hear this.
28:12
Speaker 1: McDougall allegedly attempted to engage in sex contact with a
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Speaker 1: girl under seventeen. According to a grandeur indictment, he removed
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Speaker 1: another female from the bed where the victim was sleeping.
28:26
Speaker 1: He got in and pulled down the little girl's pajama
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Speaker 1: bottoms and underwear. He was indicted. He got bond at
28:34
Speaker 1: twenty five K. A year later, he pled guilty to
28:38
Speaker 1: enticing a child, a third degree felony in Texas. Okay.
28:46
Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, I don't know if this has ever happened
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Speaker 1: to you. But when I was trying cases in the
28:51
Speaker 1: inter city Atlanta, a lot of my witnesses would be
28:55
Speaker 1: felons themselves, which I tell the jury up front, because
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Speaker 1: even the devil can tell the truth once in a
29:02
Speaker 1: while when he wants to. And I would drive around
29:04
Speaker 1: alone in my beat up Honda with convicted rapists, dopers,
29:09
Speaker 1: you name it. I was not afraid why I don't know.
29:14
Speaker 1: But can these guys charm you? Did them? Were the
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Speaker 1: parents charmed into thinking it was okay for this guy
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Speaker 1: to give their daughter a ride?
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Speaker 7: Nancy, I'm not blaming a victim.
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Speaker 1: Did I ask you to blame a victim? No, but
29:29
Speaker 1: it's with you and doctor Bethany. I am a crime victim. No,
29:32
Speaker 1: I don't want you to blame the victim. I'm asking
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Speaker 1: you about the per the person of interest. Could he
29:39
Speaker 1: have charmed the parents? No?
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Speaker 7: And here's why. I don't know how in the world
29:43
Speaker 7: you could be charmed by somebody that's got not one,
29:47
Speaker 7: but three swastickers and then they've got that double lightning bolt.
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Speaker 1: Well, you need to explain what that means. Cheryldon, just
29:53
Speaker 1: throw it out without explaining it.
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Speaker 7: Aryan nation, white supremacy, I hate group and they they
29:59
Speaker 7: know good well that that is not a tattoo.
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Speaker 5: That means anything else.
30:04
Speaker 7: And in combination with he's got ain't afraid, he's got
30:08
Speaker 7: bob wire, he's got one and two, he's got a
30:11
Speaker 7: pit bull, he's got a map of the United States
30:14
Speaker 7: with stars and bars, the rebel flag. Every single thing
30:18
Speaker 7: on his body tells you he's a white supremacist.
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Speaker 10: Okay, Nancy.
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Speaker 8: The East Texas, unfortunately, is a heavy drug community or
30:28
Speaker 8: a camp.
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Speaker 10: Math is prolific.
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Speaker 8: This area is supposed to be a mess area. If
30:38
Speaker 8: parents when they're on I've worked for child Projective Services,
30:42
Speaker 8: I've been a family law judge and a prosecutor. When
30:45
Speaker 8: people are on drugs, they are dull to reality. And
30:52
Speaker 8: if they don't have a babysitter, and you gotta have
30:55
Speaker 8: a babysitter, you've just grabbed the guy in the camper
30:58
Speaker 8: in the back with these supplying drugs.
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Speaker 1: Guys, you're hearing Atlanta Shadwick right now. I don't have
31:04
Speaker 1: any information that anybody in that home was using drugs.
31:08
Speaker 1: But as far as that area being known for drugs, yes,
31:12
Speaker 1: that's true. We do know the so called babysitter, Don
31:16
Speaker 1: Stephen McDougall, who has served time for child's sake offenses,
31:21
Speaker 1: has now been identified as a pay person of inches.
31:25
Speaker 1: What more do we know? More disturbing information, Take a
31:31
Speaker 1: listen to Sidney Sumner Crime online.
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Speaker 3: On Thursday evening as a state white Amber alert is
31:37
Speaker 3: issued for Audrey Cunningham. The man who was with her
31:40
Speaker 3: last Dawn. Stephen McDougall is listing items for sale on
31:43
Speaker 3: Facebook market please listed as all must go. The items
31:47
Speaker 3: include parts to an HVAC system, a set of weights,
31:50
Speaker 3: and an everlast punching back. A KPRC producer sends a
31:54
Speaker 3: message to McDougall amount items for sale, and around three
31:57
Speaker 3: am McDougall responds, but only one.
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Speaker 1: Carlo Castillo joining me KBTX. That's not a good sign.
32:04
Speaker 1: So after Audrey Cunningham goes missing after he reportedly is
32:09
Speaker 1: driving her to the bus stop and she never gets
32:12
Speaker 1: on the bus, he starts selling all this stuff online.
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Speaker 5: That does not leave a good impression. It sounds to
32:18
Speaker 5: me like someone who's trying to get rid of everything
32:21
Speaker 5: he's got and maybe lead town.
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Speaker 1: A long rap sheet going back as far as two
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Speaker 1: thousand and one, joining us as you know at is
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Speaker 1: Lisa Shadwick, who's paralegal has had contact with McDougall. What
32:38
Speaker 1: happened to your paralegal's boyfriend, Lana?
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Speaker 8: Okay, Lana, he gabs stabbed in August. I mean he
32:46
Speaker 8: was stabbed with the sky in August.
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Speaker 1: And this guy has been spotted in a dark blue
32:53
Speaker 1: suv in and around downtown Livingston. Listen to Nicole parton
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Speaker 1: Crime Story.
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Speaker 14: Around six thirty pm on Friday, February sixteen, Don Stephen
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Speaker 14: McDougall is arrested and placed in the Polk County Jail,
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Speaker 14: not for the disappearance of Audrey Cunningham, but on an
33:11
Speaker 14: unrelated aggravated assault with a deadly weapons charge. The public
33:16
Speaker 14: now finds out that McDougall has a criminal record dating
33:19
Speaker 14: back to two thousand and one for charges, and in
33:22
Speaker 14: two thousand and eight, authorities say he was convicted on
33:25
Speaker 14: a charge of enticing a child and was sentenced to
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Speaker 14: two years.
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Speaker 1: Alana Shadwick joining us a high profile lawyer out of Livingston,
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Speaker 1: former judge and prosecutor Atlanta. So this guy, the friend
33:39
Speaker 1: in the backyard camper has been picked up on your
33:43
Speaker 1: paralegal boyfriend knifing? Is that right? That's why he's in
33:49
Speaker 1: jail right now, Thank god.
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Speaker 8: That's correct.
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Speaker 16: But push this knifeing stabbing that occurred in the middle
33:57
Speaker 16: of nights in August August, and so he was just
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Speaker 16: now arrested and indicted for that stabbing. So he's in
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Speaker 16: jail now, behind.
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Speaker 8: Bars where he can't hurt anyone. But this happened back
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Speaker 8: in August, and there's a lot of finger pointing.
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Speaker 1: Now we're trying to figure out where was his vehicle spotted.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to Sheriff Byron Allions, Polk County.
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Speaker 15: One of the reasons that we're asking for the videos,
34:27
Speaker 15: we're trying to piece together a timeline of where he's
34:30
Speaker 15: being and the travel that he took, the roadways that
34:34
Speaker 15: he took. So this area is just one that's in
34:37
Speaker 15: particular that we can say that we know that he
34:40
Speaker 15: was in and so we're making sure that we do
34:43
Speaker 15: extensive search of those arrogas. But the problem is is
34:46
Speaker 15: that when we have a lot and I know that
34:48
Speaker 15: people are concerned and people want to help, but a
34:51
Speaker 15: lot of time when we bring too many people into
34:54
Speaker 15: an area, it hinders our efforts and being able to
34:57
Speaker 15: try to find and locate the evidence.
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Speaker 1: The police now desperately asking if you have seen this vehicle,
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Speaker 1: christmin Donna, what kind of car is it?
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Speaker 11: Specifically, it's a dark blue suburban. It's very dirty, and
35:12
Speaker 11: they're looking for it in relationship to video or anything
35:16
Speaker 11: to that effect, probably because they locked him in to
35:18
Speaker 11: a story and what they're looking for is to find
35:22
Speaker 11: some type of you know, correlating evidence that.
35:24
Speaker 17: Would blow holes in that particular story.
35:40
Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace, Lanna Shadwick joining us a
35:46
Speaker 1: lawyer out of Livingston. Is it true cops.
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Speaker 8: Have the vehicle yet, the vehicle, and there's tapes of
35:55
Speaker 8: him at the donut shop across from the courthouse down
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Speaker 8: from the.
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Speaker 5: With the vehicle.
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Speaker 8: Then they arrested him or took him or detained him
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Speaker 8: and asked him questions.
36:08
Speaker 5: So they've got the vehicle now, and you know what in.
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Speaker 1: That video you're talking about, he looks very relaxed. He's
36:15
Speaker 1: kind of like leaned up on his vehicle, all propped
36:19
Speaker 1: up on it. I saw that. But what you just said,
36:22
Speaker 1: Lena Shadwick is very very important. Explain forensically the importance
36:28
Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum of them having his vehicle.
36:31
Speaker 7: They're going to be able to take the mud and
36:33
Speaker 7: test it to see if this was right by that river.
36:37
Speaker 7: They are going to look for blood, They're gonna look
36:40
Speaker 7: for hair, They're gonna look for anything that was left
36:44
Speaker 7: by her, maybe a toy, maybe something from her backpack
36:48
Speaker 7: that got torn off, like a little keychain or something.
36:51
Speaker 7: They're going to look for anything that should not be
36:54
Speaker 7: there again, underwear, blood, large amounts of hair, ripped clothing, toys,
37:01
Speaker 7: anything that should not have been left in that vehicle.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and now another development it could give some people
37:10
Speaker 1: hope not to me. Take a listen to Sheriff Byron Lyons.
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Speaker 15: We feel strongly today that that backpack that was found
37:18
Speaker 15: is high probability that is going.
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Speaker 17: To be Audrey's.
37:21
Speaker 1: A backpack has been found. Cheryl McCollum, What does that
37:25
Speaker 1: tell you?
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Speaker 7: It tells me we've got a direction or travel. It
37:28
Speaker 7: tells me we've got an item that this child would
37:31
Speaker 7: not have left behind willingly. It also tells me the
37:35
Speaker 7: location of where that backpack is in relation to the
37:41
Speaker 7: bus stop. Here's what I think we're looking at, Nancy.
37:44
Speaker 7: He was seen at the gas station at.
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Speaker 1: Nine o'clock without her on the video.
37:49
Speaker 7: Without her on the video, So that's a two hour window,
37:54
Speaker 7: so she's less than an hour away. In any given
37:58
Speaker 7: direction where that backpack is, they should fan out almost
38:04
Speaker 7: you know, think about it as a spiral and you
38:07
Speaker 7: just go out and out and out. She's going to
38:10
Speaker 7: be there near that waterway or in that water somewhere.
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Speaker 1: Carla Castillo joining us kBT X. Exactly where was the
38:18
Speaker 1: backpack found?
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Speaker 5: It would sound near according to the sheriff, it was
38:23
Speaker 5: near the dam, the Lake Livingston Dam.
38:25
Speaker 1: Landa shadowick tell me about Lake Livingston Dam.
38:27
Speaker 16: The lake was built man made.
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Speaker 7: It is huge.
38:31
Speaker 8: It's the second largest lake in the state of Texas.
38:35
Speaker 8: It connects to the Trinity River, which goes into Leave
38:41
Speaker 8: the Sandston River, which goes into the Gulf. And it
38:48
Speaker 8: is a moving body of water. And I hope that baby's.
38:53
Speaker 1: Not out there, you know. I'm just thinking about what
38:55
Speaker 1: you're saying and what Cheryl McCollum is saying. Everybody jumping
38:58
Speaker 1: if you have a thought on this. I don't need
39:00
Speaker 1: DNA to tell me if it's John, David or Lucy's backpack.
39:03
Speaker 1: I know what it looks like and I know what's
39:05
Speaker 1: in it because I look at it every morning, every afternoon,
39:08
Speaker 1: and every night before it goes back to school. One
39:12
Speaker 1: of the few clues in the disappearance of this little
39:15
Speaker 1: eleven year old girl, Audie Cunningham, is a red Hello
39:19
Speaker 1: Kitty backpack that she was supposed to carry to school
39:23
Speaker 1: with her on Thursday morning, Feb fifteen, the morning after
39:27
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, usually leaves a house around seven am. She
39:31
Speaker 1: never made it to the bus stop half a mile away.
39:35
Speaker 1: She was given a ride by a family friend covered
39:38
Speaker 1: in Nazi swastika's. He was spotted without her at nine
39:44
Speaker 1: a m. At a local gas station. Whatever went down
39:48
Speaker 1: went down in two hours. Would do you agree or disagree? Cheryl?
39:51
Speaker 1: I don't think this guy has the brains are the
39:54
Speaker 1: wherewithal to hide somebody away and continue to visit them
39:58
Speaker 1: and torture them and rape them. Whatever happened to her
40:01
Speaker 1: happened between seven and nine.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, And if you look at pre and post behavior, Nancy,
40:07
Speaker 7: you've got a guy that is vacant for that period
40:10
Speaker 7: of time, but he doesn't know the school, hasn't notified anybody,
40:13
Speaker 7: so he's working very quickly.
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Speaker 6: This same person.
40:18
Speaker 7: Finds it more important to sell items on Facebook and
40:22
Speaker 7: respond to people instead of looking for this child.
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Speaker 1: Chris I agree with Cheryl.
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Speaker 11: I agree on Cheryl is one thousand percent correct, and
40:31
Speaker 11: I think what's happening. You know, the sad part of this,
40:35
Speaker 11: If in fact that poor child is in that water,
40:39
Speaker 11: it'll be seven to ten days before her body potentially
40:43
Speaker 11: with surface, depends on the currents there. And if that
40:46
Speaker 11: body does surface, you know, God forbid it is in
40:50
Speaker 11: the water, then that it could surface anywhere. And so
40:54
Speaker 11: I suspect the PD if they're going to lean towards
40:57
Speaker 11: that body of water, we're going to see some movement
41:00
Speaker 11: around that lake pretty rapidly.
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Speaker 1: Carlo Castillo joining us KBTX News, has the person of
41:09
Speaker 1: interest the Aryan Brotherhood member. Has he been taking police
41:19
Speaker 1: to locations or identifying police for police locations to search.
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Speaker 5: So the sheriff during his latest press conference said that, yes,
41:26
Speaker 5: there have been some instances. He didn't stay where, but
41:30
Speaker 5: he said that McDougall has been taking them to locations
41:34
Speaker 5: to he has been asked where were you in the
41:38
Speaker 5: last in so many hours, and he has apparently been
41:41
Speaker 5: taking them to those locations.
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Speaker 1: To the locations where he says he was right correct.
41:48
Speaker 1: I take that with a box of salt. So Cheryl McCollum,
41:54
Speaker 1: Chris McDonough, Lanti Shdwick, Carl Gustilla. Have you noticed that
42:01
Speaker 1: very often defendants will tell you half truths, or they
42:06
Speaker 1: might tell you a lot of the story, but they'll
42:08
Speaker 1: leave out a significant portion, like, yeah, I went to
42:11
Speaker 1: the gas station, and I stopped at Duncan Donuts, and
42:13
Speaker 1: then I did this and then. But they're leaving out
42:16
Speaker 1: something in the middle of that, right, so where he
42:21
Speaker 1: dumped the child. The sheriff is say they have not
42:25
Speaker 1: given up hope that Audrey is alive. But wouldn't this
42:29
Speaker 1: be a simple matter of pinging his cell phone Cheryl McCollum.
42:33
Speaker 7: Tracking It could be unless he turned it off. But
42:37
Speaker 7: I'll tell you something, what law enforcement has already done
42:40
Speaker 7: is brilliant because they have locked him in and I
42:44
Speaker 7: guarantee you if they have videoed him saying I went
42:47
Speaker 7: here and here and here, and they've got him on
42:50
Speaker 7: the record and own video saying where all he went. Well,
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Speaker 7: now he came back track.
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Speaker 5: Let's hear from Atlanta, Okay, speaking the.
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Speaker 8: Tracks they got mud track from his vehicle along the lake.
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Speaker 8: Whether you know he's fishing or whatever he said he
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Speaker 8: was doing. There's a bumper of his that hit a tree.
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Speaker 8: They've got that bumper evidence, and of course they've got
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Speaker 8: the video and camera footage from the area that the
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Speaker 8: sheriff said yesterday during the press conference that video from
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Speaker 8: individuals out there have been very very helpful. And what
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Speaker 8: that means, I don't know, but he said it's been
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Speaker 8: very helpful.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, Chris McDonough, What is he doing out there
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Speaker 1: bumping into a tree? Why would he do that unless
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Speaker 1: he was in haste and the same location, the same
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Speaker 1: lake where the Hello kit he backpack is found.
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Speaker 11: He's in panic mode here when if in fact, you know,
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Speaker 11: he is dumping those evidence items there and he's backing
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Speaker 11: out the potentially you know, some of these guys get
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Speaker 11: such tunnel vision after you know the crime has gone
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Speaker 11: down that they start to you know, panic and that
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Speaker 11: these are the kind of problems that occur, you know,
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Speaker 11: small accidents such as this. But he's given an opportunity
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Speaker 11: to cooperate from the PD and to share what Cheryl
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Speaker 11: said earlier is one thousand percent again correct, because they
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Speaker 11: want to lock him in and then of course they
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Speaker 11: can have problems like this and say, well, you know,
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Speaker 11: tell me about the bumper on your car?
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Speaker 17: How did you get that?
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, so you've got somebody that has said I was
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Speaker 7: with her that morning. He forgot to hide the backpack appropriately.
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Speaker 7: That's another mistake that put himself at a location that
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Speaker 7: I believe is going to end up really hurting any
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Speaker 7: kind of events he could put up later. He is
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Speaker 7: putting himself where her body will be located in the
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Speaker 7: general area.
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Speaker 1: Remember when Scott Peterson had trouble either backing in or
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Speaker 1: out of the marina after he dumped Lacey's body. Remember
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Speaker 1: that on a normal day he probably wouldn't have had
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Speaker 1: that problem, But with the nerves, whether he realized it
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Speaker 1: or not, he did have a problem. This guy here
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Speaker 1: bams into a tree with a distinctive bumper mark. Wonder
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Speaker 1: what that is? What could that be? But it's his
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Speaker 1: all right? So why run into a tree? Why in
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Speaker 1: a hurry? Why that mistake? Why in the location of
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Speaker 1: her Hello Kitty backpack? As we close all eyes on
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Speaker 1: the gathering law enforcement, we have learned a body has
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Speaker 1: been found and in the last moments it has been
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Speaker 1: identified as Audrey. Listen.
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Speaker 15: At this time, I sadly announced that Audrey's body was
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Speaker 15: located at the Trinity River under US Highway fifty nine.
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Speaker 18: As a result of today's developments, I will discontinue the
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Speaker 18: Amber Alert for Audrey, and I want to thank DPS
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Speaker 18: Department of Public Safety for all their help in this alert.
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Speaker 18: The information that we have gathered in this criminal investigation
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Speaker 18: is substantial. The Polk County Sheriff's Office, investigators, the Libery
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Speaker 18: and Police Department, and the Texas Rangers, the Game Warns, FBI,
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Speaker 18: Harris County Sheriff's Office, the Santa Centa County Sheriff's Office,
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Speaker 18: the District Attorney's office in Trinity County, in Liberty County
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Speaker 18: is just an outpouring of love from all of our
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Speaker 18: law enfortment's enforcement partners. My heart aches with this news
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Speaker 18: and I expressed with my deepest sympathies and controlencis to
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Speaker 18: everyone who knew who cared for Audrey. The Sheriff's office,
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Speaker 18: we will continue to process the evidence that have been
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Speaker 18: gathered to ensure that the justice for Audrey, and at
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Speaker 18: this time I will turn the podium over to the
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Speaker 18: Pote County District Attorney, Miss Shelley soon.
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Speaker 19: Thank you. My name is Shelley Sitton and I am
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Speaker 19: your Polk County District Attorney. I just want to take
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Speaker 19: a few moments to explain how we're going to move
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Speaker 19: forward from here based on all of the evidence that
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Speaker 19: law enforcement has collected. They are in the process of
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Speaker 19: preparing the appropriate arrest warrants for down Stephen McDougall. At
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Speaker 19: this time, we believe the appropriate arrest warrant is going
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Speaker 19: to be for capital murder in the death of Audrey Cunningham.
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Speaker 5: Be sure to join us for Wednesday's Crime Stories when
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Speaker 5: we bring you the very latest on this developing story.
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Speaker 1: We wait as justice un false. Goodbye friend,