Latest / Reality with The King / An Exclusive Sit-Down with Lyrica Anderson
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- 1:08Speaker 1: rain Drives. On today's episode of Reality with the King,
- 1:11Speaker 1: I have a singer, a song writer, former star of
- 1:17Speaker 1: Love and Hip Hoop Hollywood, giving up for the beautiful
- 1:20Speaker 1: Lerika Anderson. Hey, superstars, I got my shades, obviously you
- 1:27Speaker 1: got yours.
- 1:28Speaker 2: On a period. It's one of those types today my
- 1:33Speaker 2: god has been working day is a girl?
- 1:36Speaker 1: You know?
- 1:36Speaker 2: My eyes are actually watering.
- 1:41Speaker 1: I'm not not this suit.
- 1:45Speaker 2: How are you anymore? Please?
- 1:47Speaker 1: Okay, okay, how are you doing that?
- 1:49Speaker 2: I'm good?
- 1:50Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, no, thank you for saying yes.
- 1:54Speaker 1: It's been a while since we've seen you on Love
- 1:58Speaker 1: and Hip Hop but missing you. You seem to always
- 2:01Speaker 1: be in the news, Honey.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Tell me about it.
- 2:07Speaker 1: So now I want to talk to you because, like
- 2:10Speaker 1: I said, you've been in the news recently, but more
- 2:13Speaker 1: than that, you have such a very interesting story, a
- 2:18Speaker 1: very interesting life that I really just want to get
- 2:21Speaker 1: to know you.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I just want to get to know you.
- 2:25Speaker 1: So I don't know too many people whose name after
- 2:28Speaker 1: their mother, yes, which I think is so interesting to me.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Your mother is the iconic lyric ge honey period.
- 2:36Speaker 2: We all know.
- 2:37Speaker 1: How is she doing? By the way, she's great.
- 2:39Speaker 2: I wish she was here. She could have came and
- 2:41Speaker 2: talked to you too, but she's in La.
- 2:42Speaker 1: She's in La. Okay. So we are in Atlanta right now.
- 2:45Speaker 1: So we know you're from Love and Hip Hop Hollywood too,
- 2:48Speaker 1: but you're in Atlanta. So what made you move here?
- 2:52Speaker 2: Well, my manager lives in Atlanta. That's A And uh
- 2:56Speaker 2: it's not now, not my manager. I just have you're
- 3:01Speaker 2: starting early.
- 3:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to make sure America.
- 3:08Speaker 2: You said A.
- 3:09Speaker 1: So I wanted to make sure that they didn't think it.
- 3:11Speaker 2: Was you said Atlanta.
- 3:13Speaker 1: I know, like but you know some of the girls
- 3:15Speaker 1: don't reference A with the Atlanta.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Absolutely not. It's not my manager, no, not even a
- 3:20Speaker 2: little bit. My manager is Prince Howard, So shout out
- 3:23Speaker 2: to Prance. He's in a building, but yeah, no, he
- 3:27Speaker 2: he lives here. And it's really interesting because I'm born
- 3:31Speaker 2: and raised in Kelly and I used to come here
- 3:35Speaker 2: all the time, and I would notice that when I
- 3:38Speaker 2: flew into Atlanta to record like my music, I just
- 3:41Speaker 2: got a different inspiration here, like more inspired in Atlanta.
- 3:44Speaker 2: So I was like, I think I'm gonna start going
- 3:46Speaker 2: there just to like get inspired to write basically. So
- 3:50Speaker 2: that's how it started. And I just started coming more.
- 3:53Speaker 2: And my best friend lives here named Jay, and she
- 3:55Speaker 2: was just like begging me to come. She's like, you
- 3:58Speaker 2: don't even have to get your own place, just off
- 4:00Speaker 2: with me and see how you like it. Just come
- 4:03Speaker 2: and like, because she kind of had made me a
- 4:05Speaker 2: little nervous because she was like, oh, Atlanta's dangerous and
- 4:07Speaker 2: like all these stories I would hear like how girls
- 4:09Speaker 2: don't feel always have to carry a gun, and I
- 4:11Speaker 2: was like, ooh, I don't really come from that life style.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Hold on, man, I mean, it's danger just anywhere. We
- 4:17Speaker 2: have stuff in LA too, but it's just the way
- 4:19Speaker 2: she described it. So I ended up coming. I was like,
- 4:21Speaker 2: I just rolled the dice, packed up my stuff out
- 4:23Speaker 2: of my three bedroom condo in LA and just came.
- 4:27Speaker 2: And I feel like that was the best decision I
- 4:29Speaker 2: could have made. I really really do. Because now I
- 4:33Speaker 2: do still work in LA and I work here, but
- 4:35Speaker 2: I have like a consistent I'm doing a lot of
- 4:38Speaker 2: cool stuff here now work Lise, Well, I'm back doing
- 4:45Speaker 2: reality TV. Oh girl, I'm filming a reality show on
- 4:49Speaker 2: now That's TV called The Blueprint. So there's that, and
- 4:54Speaker 2: that's we're filming that in Atlanta, thank you. I Also
- 5:00Speaker 2: I'm a regular with Country Wayne, so I work with
- 5:02Speaker 2: Country Wayne and I'm like constantly filming with him on
- 5:05Speaker 2: his cast and show. So that's also filmed here Atlanta.
- 5:08Speaker 2: So that's now two jobs. I'm working on my music
- 5:10Speaker 2: here in Atlanta. I just shot two movies, but I
- 5:14Speaker 2: shot those in LA So that's why I said I'm
- 5:16Speaker 2: still by coastal. But it's just like a lot of work,
- 5:19Speaker 2: like more in Atlanta. And I love recording here, Like
- 5:23Speaker 2: I love how you could just run into somebody in
- 5:24Speaker 2: the hallway and they're like, y'all, let's get in, and
- 5:26Speaker 2: then you pull up and you're in the studio with
- 5:28Speaker 2: them and now you got a major, massive hit that
- 5:29Speaker 2: y'all wrote together. So it's just a vibe the strip clubs.
- 5:32Speaker 2: I'm not a big hookah girl, but I like the
- 5:34Speaker 2: energy of it.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Look at your Look at Jill. Well, welcome to Atlanta, baby,
- 5:39Speaker 1: because you know that's what we're about. But talk to
- 5:42Speaker 1: me about what was like growing up in Los Angeles.
- 5:46Speaker 1: We love your mom, so what was your childhood like?
- 5:51Speaker 2: My childhood was interesting. You know a lot of people
- 5:54Speaker 2: grew up with like brothers and sisters and stuff. And
- 5:57Speaker 2: my twin passed when I was three, So for me,
- 6:01Speaker 2: it's like I didn't really get to have that sister
- 6:04Speaker 2: brother bond ever because my mom didn't have any more
- 6:06Speaker 2: kids after that, so I grew up as an only
- 6:08Speaker 2: child and.
- 6:09Speaker 1: It was a twin brother.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Twin sister, but I'm saying brother because she didn't have
- 6:13Speaker 2: any a brother either, like I'd have any more. She
- 6:15Speaker 2: didn't have any more kids after that. So my twin sister, girl,
- 6:19Speaker 2: a girl sister of mine, she passed, and you know,
- 6:24Speaker 2: it's just me and my mom for a while. My mom,
- 6:26Speaker 2: like my dad wasn't around, so it was literally just
- 6:29Speaker 2: me and her, and you know, my dad wasn't My
- 6:35Speaker 2: dad wasn't properly like around, so my mom was just
- 6:38Speaker 2: like I got it, you know, and she took charge
- 6:40Speaker 2: of like mom and dad, and so it was like
- 6:42Speaker 2: interesting kind of could be like a little lonely because
- 6:45Speaker 2: you know, it's just like me and moms ay't like
- 6:47Speaker 2: oh session sash, mom is getting on my dogs coming
- 6:49Speaker 2: here and you know whatever. So but my mom did
- 6:52Speaker 2: a really good job. And then she finally did marry,
- 6:57Speaker 2: which was my stepdad, and he passed in twenty nineteen
- 7:00Speaker 2: from als. So yeah, it's just been it was crazy.
- 7:05Speaker 2: But I grew up like in LA but then also
- 7:08Speaker 2: in like the suburbs because the part we used to
- 7:11Speaker 2: live like Pico area, and then my mom lived in
- 7:13Speaker 2: North Hollywood and then eventually we most of my life
- 7:16Speaker 2: in Canyon country like Santa Clarita May.
- 7:19Speaker 1: I ask how your sister passed away at three years old.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Well, we were premature and then she had gotten pneumonia
- 7:27Speaker 2: and it was just like way too much for her lungs. Yeah.
- 7:31Speaker 1: You know, one thing they say about twins is that
- 7:33Speaker 1: from birth, you guys are like connected. Did you grow
- 7:37Speaker 1: up feeling like there was a sense of loss although
- 7:40Speaker 1: you were three? But did you? Yeah?
- 7:43Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like you try to find that naturally,
- 7:45Speaker 2: like in your friends or even in your relationships, cause
- 7:49Speaker 2: you're like, I don't know. It can make you feel
- 7:53Speaker 2: like you're always like searching for something. It's weird. It's
- 7:56Speaker 2: kind of can feel like a daddy issue, like similar
- 7:58Speaker 2: to that like wound. So I definitely feel like I
- 8:02Speaker 2: carry that I'm better now with just like my relationship
- 8:06Speaker 2: with God and learning and I learned how to like
- 8:09Speaker 2: enjoy my own company and like being by myself and stuff,
- 8:12Speaker 2: because I used to like hate being alone. But now
- 8:16Speaker 2: it's like, I feel like God will force you to
- 8:18Speaker 2: do that if that's what he wants you to learn
- 8:20Speaker 2: how to do. So, you know, I have my son
- 8:22Speaker 2: here with me in Atlanta and he goes to school here,
- 8:26Speaker 2: so it's like a lot of times he's gone, and
- 8:28Speaker 2: I work a lot, but when I'm not working, you know,
- 8:30Speaker 2: it's just me. So I had to like learn how
- 8:33Speaker 2: to like I guess that's a form of like healing
- 8:36Speaker 2: that childhood trauma. So that's a good thing.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Was it hard for you to make girlfriends too because of that,
- 8:41Speaker 1: like have like really deep female friendships growing up.
- 8:45Speaker 2: No, it wasn't too hard. I'm just so weirdo, like
- 8:48Speaker 2: I don't really like I'm really cool and I'm my
- 8:53Speaker 2: energy is to be sweet and I'm like a pure person.
- 8:56Speaker 2: But I also don't trust people because I don't feel
- 8:59Speaker 2: like people humans are usually that pure. Not saying like
- 9:04Speaker 2: I'm the only one, but I'm saying I don't feel
- 9:05Speaker 2: like it's I feel like it's a rarity that people
- 9:07Speaker 2: are like good people. So people sometimes mistake me. It's like, oh,
- 9:10Speaker 2: she's full of herself, or she Hollywood, or she might
- 9:12Speaker 2: think she's this, or that she's stuck up because I
- 9:14Speaker 2: won't have like an open energy or I won't be
- 9:16Speaker 2: like yeah, girl, Like I might be like, take my number,
- 9:18Speaker 2: but I might not call because I'm it takes me
- 9:21Speaker 2: a minute to just get close to people. Even men,
- 9:26Speaker 2: like I'm like a real slow mover, so you might
- 9:29Speaker 2: think like, oh, she's not even interested, but I'm just like,
- 9:32Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't get close to people fast.
- 9:34Speaker 2: So once I do, cause then I like love you
- 9:38Speaker 2: down and then I have expectations of you. So before
- 9:41Speaker 2: I get close to people, I don't want to get
- 9:43Speaker 2: like let down, so I'll just won't get close to people.
- 9:46Speaker 2: It's weird.
- 9:46Speaker 1: What's your sign?
- 9:47Speaker 2: I'm a Sagittarius. Oh, very you guys the best. I'm
- 9:55Speaker 2: bit sad.
- 9:56Speaker 1: I was very sad of you. I get it now,
- 9:58Speaker 1: I'm told get it. Yes, how did you get in
- 10:01Speaker 1: the music industry?
- 10:03Speaker 2: What's you? Okay? Cool?
- 10:05Speaker 1: Cool?
- 10:05Speaker 2: Cook? Cook? I like leaving no, yes, we do. You said,
- 10:10Speaker 2: how did I get in the music industry? Okay? Well,
- 10:12Speaker 2: my mom is obviously the best singer in the world.
- 10:16Speaker 2: She's like amazing, so just growing up with her, watching her,
- 10:20Speaker 2: I went to the studio. It's so funny how Steff
- 10:24Speaker 2: repeats itself, because what my mom did with me, I
- 10:27Speaker 2: now do with Ocean. And it's just because like, I'm
- 10:29Speaker 2: in the industry, so I was like going to the
- 10:30Speaker 2: studio with my mom, going to rehearsals. My mom, Ocean
- 10:33Speaker 2: goes with My son's name is Ocean. He goes to
- 10:35Speaker 2: me to rehearsals and studio and just like everything, same thing.
- 10:38Speaker 2: So that's like kind of where I feel like I
- 10:40Speaker 2: started because I started learning, and then I started out
- 10:43Speaker 2: as a songwriter and I got my first big deal
- 10:47Speaker 2: with Disney, and pretty much every uh like writing session
- 10:55Speaker 2: that they would send me out to do, I would
- 10:57Speaker 2: book it. So they were like, you are in credit,
- 11:00Speaker 2: because but the thing is, if you give me the opportunity,
- 11:03Speaker 2: I can do it. It's just that you have to.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Like they knew to put me in the right rooms.
- 11:07Speaker 2: That's what I liked about Disney. So it was just like, Yo,
- 11:11Speaker 2: we need four songs for Camp Rock two, and we're
- 11:13Speaker 2: gonna put you with I'm losing the truck of the
- 11:17Speaker 2: producer's name right now, but with this producer or whatever.
- 11:20Speaker 2: And then I went in and then we wrote those
- 11:23Speaker 2: four songs and they took it. And then it's like
- 11:25Speaker 2: I'm writing for Miley Cyrus and I look up and
- 11:27Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, it's Sanna Montana and Jonas Brothers
- 11:30Speaker 2: and like Princess and the Frog, and like I was
- 11:33Speaker 2: just like I couldn't even believe my life. I was like,
- 11:34Speaker 2: oh my god, this is like so cool. I'm making
- 11:36Speaker 2: such good money and like I'm like, oh way, I'm
- 11:39Speaker 2: getting money.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Money, like I'm publishing money.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Girl is different. So I was like, I don't know
- 11:44Speaker 2: if I want to do anything else. And then the
- 11:47Speaker 2: thing that made me want to venture off from Disney
- 11:50Speaker 2: is I was like, I want to write for other
- 11:52Speaker 2: artists like R and B like what I ended up doing,
- 11:54Speaker 2: you know, the Chris Browns, the Beyonces, and it was
- 11:56Speaker 2: like kind of keeping me in like a Disney innocent box.
- 12:00Speaker 2: I'm like, that's cool, but I'm like, I don't even
- 12:02Speaker 2: know how to write R and B because I'm stuck
- 12:04Speaker 2: doing pop. Right. So that's how I like ventured off.
- 12:07Speaker 2: And that's in a nutshell, I got started as a songwriter.
- 12:11Speaker 1: So when you were because Disney's checks, baby, they're cute,
- 12:16Speaker 1: do you remember how much well, I mean, do you
- 12:19Speaker 1: remember the most money you made in the Disney songwriting era? Uh?
- 12:27Speaker 2: I don't know if I remember like an exact number,
- 12:30Speaker 2: but I remember the residual checks were like nuts Because
- 12:34Speaker 2: I wrote this song for Sherise featuring Ias called Pyramid
- 12:38Speaker 2: and it was such a big record. It was like
- 12:40Speaker 2: on Oprah and it was all over every time I
- 12:42Speaker 2: turned on the radio. And it's so funny because it
- 12:43Speaker 2: was a ballad, but it blew up so big, and
- 12:46Speaker 2: those checks were crazy, like you know, you go check
- 12:49Speaker 2: the mail, it's like twenty thousand seven, ten fifteen. But
- 12:52Speaker 2: getting those like all the time, we're just like adding up,
- 12:57Speaker 2: adding up, adding up, adding up, and I don't know
- 12:59Speaker 2: the number they would bigger, some small, and even no matter.
- 13:01Speaker 2: The small ones was like ten grand yea, so it's
- 13:04Speaker 2: like and the bigger ones be like one hundred grand,
- 13:06Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty like whatever. So it's just like
- 13:10Speaker 2: a lot of money. And then I was like, okay,
- 13:11Speaker 2: I just want to be a songwriter, like there's so
- 13:13Speaker 2: much money in songwriting. And then eventually I was like,
- 13:16Speaker 2: oh my god, I want to write for myself now,
- 13:18Speaker 2: like I want to be an artist. But it took
- 13:19Speaker 2: me a long time to want to be an artist
- 13:22Speaker 2: because I'm like, I really like writing for other people
- 13:24Speaker 2: because the money's so good. Now.
- 13:26Speaker 1: The money's great. I always tell people, the money in
- 13:28Speaker 1: terms of music is in the publishing. Yeah, So for
- 13:31Speaker 1: those who may not know Erica, Can you tell us
- 13:34Speaker 1: what some of our favorite songs are that you wrote for?
- 13:38Speaker 1: You mentioned Chris Brown? What song? What was the biggest
- 13:41Speaker 1: record you wrote for Chris Brown?
- 13:43Speaker 2: I did Party, you know, grass and Greener. I don't
- 13:46Speaker 2: know why. I love Grass and Greener. That's like one
- 13:48Speaker 2: of my favorites. I've done a lot of them for Chris.
- 13:52Speaker 2: I have to think, you know, I did Jealous for Beyonce,
- 13:55Speaker 2: So that was a big one. That was a huge one.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Stop, yeah, look at me. We chose sung glasses on Girl.
- 14:06Speaker 1: This one Jealous, Yes, off of self titled. I want
- 14:12Speaker 1: to say it was track number seven because it was
- 14:15Speaker 1: because number five was Blow. I'm upstand. I think six
- 14:20Speaker 1: is No Angel, and then it was Jealous because it
- 14:23Speaker 1: was always that interesting transition from No Angel to Jealous.
- 14:30Speaker 1: I'm saying, but I remember hearing that record for the
- 14:34Speaker 1: first time, and I mean, the video alone is so
- 14:38Speaker 1: cinematic and so deep, and I thought it. I thought
- 14:41Speaker 1: the visual did such a good job representing that particular record.
- 14:46Speaker 1: But what was so fascinating about the song Jealous. It
- 14:50Speaker 1: was a woman in a relationship being jealous of what
- 14:57Speaker 1: her man was allowed to get away with, that she
- 15:00Speaker 1: coult it.
- 15:01Speaker 2: It's so funny because we can still relate to that,
- 15:04Speaker 2: you know, as women. It's like men men still feel like,
- 15:07Speaker 2: well I could do this boo because it's me or whatever.
- 15:09Speaker 2: So yeah, it's that was like a really cool that
- 15:13Speaker 2: is just a great time in life, Like when you're
- 15:15Speaker 2: just getting those good news calls, it's just you, well, no,
- 15:21Speaker 2: not in this, but yes, that's happened before, but not
- 15:24Speaker 2: with Beyonce. I got in with the producer named Details,
- 15:29Speaker 2: and he told me before I got there, this is
- 15:30Speaker 2: for Beyonce, so I already knew, like, this is a
- 15:33Speaker 2: Beyonce session, and I was I love those sessions because
- 15:36Speaker 2: I'm like, I know he at least has the direct
- 15:38Speaker 2: you know, connects, so it's like, probably gonna really get
- 15:41Speaker 2: to her. Not you know, you have to be careful
- 15:43Speaker 2: as a songwriter.
- 15:44Speaker 1: They do.
- 15:44Speaker 2: You do a lot of shooting in the dark, so
- 15:46Speaker 2: you're in the studio like, oh, we're gonna hope this
- 15:48Speaker 2: goes to Rihanna, and it's like, man, we're gonna get
- 15:51Speaker 2: this to Rihanna or we just in here writing a song.
- 15:54Speaker 2: But it can happen. It just depends, you know. So
- 15:57Speaker 2: that session was specifically for Beyonce. So we did uh Jealous,
- 16:02Speaker 2: and we're in there and I was singing my heart
- 16:04Speaker 2: out because I the demo that I sang for her
- 16:08Speaker 2: was like maybe a key or two higher than the original.
- 16:12Speaker 2: So I was like saying it it's somewhere online, like
- 16:16Speaker 2: on YouTube or something. I would think one of my
- 16:18Speaker 2: fans put it up. But it's like I'm singing it's
- 16:20Speaker 2: like two keys higher, and I'm like, you know, we're
- 16:22Speaker 2: writing it, and then I had to go record it.
- 16:24Speaker 2: Obviously it's the female for her to submit it, so
- 16:26Speaker 2: I didn't know if she was gonna take it at first,
- 16:27Speaker 2: and I think they cut it like in Miami. I
- 16:30Speaker 2: wasn't there, and I got a call like Beyonce is
- 16:32Speaker 2: taking the record Jealous, and I'm like, ah, this is
- 16:35Speaker 2: so cool.
- 16:36Speaker 1: Mm hmm that So you made a Q coin off
- 16:39Speaker 1: of that song.
- 16:40Speaker 2: Don't worry about what I yes, you know, I gotta
- 16:47Speaker 2: get to the coin. The coined it has the coin.
- 16:50Speaker 1: The album was dominated for Album of the Year the Grammys.
- 16:53Speaker 1: It should have won, but that's neither here nor there. There. Yeah,
- 16:56Speaker 1: but it goes to show your artistry when you was
- 16:59Speaker 1: right in that record. What was her inspiration or reference
- 17:03Speaker 1: that you had.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Well, we were in there together, just going back and
- 17:06Speaker 2: forth him men details mm hm. And you know, I
- 17:12Speaker 2: don't know. That's just like a real gift from God,
- 17:15Speaker 2: like me songwriting, because I will just hear stuff that's
- 17:18Speaker 2: just like pretty cool, like and I don't even know
- 17:20Speaker 2: where it comes from. And then my mom, like I said,
- 17:22Speaker 2: I remember being a little girl in here and being like, okay,
- 17:24Speaker 2: this is the first verse. This is the second verse,
- 17:26Speaker 2: like exactly like I'm gonna teach my son like how
- 17:29Speaker 2: it goes. And then for me, I hear melody first.
- 17:32Speaker 2: So when I was in there with him, I just
- 17:34Speaker 2: you know, no, no, no, no, whatever it is, I
- 17:36Speaker 2: hear sorry, and then from there, what is my throat?
- 17:42Speaker 2: It's really good. Okay, it's okay. So then from there
- 17:47Speaker 2: then I'll hear lyrics. So we just just like playing
- 17:50Speaker 2: with it, and magic happened.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Girl, that's magic. Congratulations, like thank you, like really no, seriously,
- 17:59Speaker 1: that's really really really really amazing. And what was interesting
- 18:01Speaker 1: about that you were all love and hip hop at
- 18:04Speaker 1: that time too? How did you get all love and
- 18:08Speaker 1: hip hop?
- 18:10Speaker 2: It was so crazy, Like I feel like love a
- 18:14Speaker 2: lot of people. What I feel like actually not even
- 18:16Speaker 2: just a lot of people loving hip hop feels like
- 18:17Speaker 2: it can be like a gift and a curse. So
- 18:22Speaker 2: I was minding my business in the studio, writing in
- 18:25Speaker 2: a whole writing session and I got a random phone
- 18:28Speaker 2: call and they're like, Hi, this is such and such.
- 18:30Speaker 2: We're wondering if you were interested in being all love
- 18:32Speaker 2: and hip hop. And I was like no, and they
- 18:37Speaker 2: were like, well, if you don't mind us asking you why,
- 18:40Speaker 2: And I was like, because I'm not a fighter. I
- 18:43Speaker 2: didn't grow up a fighting I'm not even that Confrontational'm
- 18:46Speaker 2: actually a little bit like like I'll be chilling, like
- 18:49Speaker 2: I don't have time to be like arguing on TV.
- 18:51Speaker 2: And people like no, and they were like no, no, no, no, no,
- 18:53Speaker 2: no no. We've been following you. We love your mixtape,
- 18:56Speaker 2: we think you're incredible, we love your music. We're actually
- 18:58Speaker 2: interested and like following your story as a musician and
- 19:05Speaker 2: like what you got going on? Like how about this?
- 19:07Speaker 2: Like they're good at it. They're like, just come in
- 19:09Speaker 2: and sit with us and see how you feel. Just
- 19:11Speaker 2: come talk to us. And I was like, I mean
- 19:13Speaker 2: I'll come talk like yeah, long as because once at
- 19:16Speaker 2: that point they got it out of my mind that
- 19:17Speaker 2: they wanted they didn't want any drama, so I was like, okay,
- 19:20Speaker 2: bet I'm a bull up. So then next we set
- 19:22Speaker 2: up a meeting. The next thing, I was in a
- 19:24Speaker 2: meeting with like Mona and Shiva and all the producers.
- 19:28Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, it was like this
- 19:29Speaker 2: room full of people, and little did I know it
- 19:32Speaker 2: was like kind of somewhat in an audition. I'll just
- 19:35Speaker 2: being myself and they were like, so, what's what's this about.
- 19:38Speaker 2: We see you got the bling on your teeth at
- 19:39Speaker 2: the time, I had like diamonds all in my teeth,
- 19:41Speaker 2: and they're like, tell us more with this. What you
- 19:44Speaker 2: got going on next? And you know, I'm like, I'm
- 19:46Speaker 2: working with Timbland, I got this music, this that or
- 19:49Speaker 2: I don't know if that was like right before Timbaland
- 19:51Speaker 2: or I don't know. It was a lot but to
- 19:54Speaker 2: keep up with, but it was real cool, and I
- 19:56Speaker 2: was like I like that meeting, like it felt like
- 19:57Speaker 2: a maybe. Then they were like, so we want to
- 19:59Speaker 2: know about your love life. So at the time, I
- 20:01Speaker 2: was like, I have a boyfriend or fiance and I
- 20:04Speaker 2: didn't have a kid yet, So they were like we
- 20:05Speaker 2: want to meet him. And I was like, and our
- 20:07Speaker 2: mothers don't get along, so it's really crazy. We want
- 20:09Speaker 2: to meet the moms. I'm like, God, I'm like no, no, no,
- 20:12Speaker 2: hold on. They're like, no, no, no, we want to meet everybody.
- 20:15Speaker 2: That meeting was an episode in itself. Monas Mona was
- 20:21Speaker 2: smiling from ear to ear.
- 20:22Speaker 1: She's like, let's go, and she's so, who's in the meeting?
- 20:25Speaker 1: Was you?
- 20:26Speaker 2: Me, my mom, Pam, A One's mom, and A one
- 20:31Speaker 2: We were all four in the meeting, and it was
- 20:34Speaker 2: just like, wow, I don't like how she did. It
- 20:35Speaker 2: was she been living here long enough and ain't moved
- 20:37Speaker 2: out yet at the time, his mom staying with us.
- 20:40Speaker 2: So that was I'm not gonna lie. It was great
- 20:43Speaker 2: for TV. I get it now, but oh for sure. Yeah.
- 20:45Speaker 2: So she was just like, what, so your mom lives
- 20:48Speaker 2: with y'all and they don't get along and what and
- 20:51Speaker 2: what and y'all are married, so why when y'all got married?
- 20:53Speaker 2: And then we were like, well, we're waiting for this
- 20:55Speaker 2: and she was like she said some real deep like
- 20:56Speaker 2: who waits for the rest of their lives? I never
- 20:58Speaker 2: forgot that, And so we were like, okay, so she
- 21:01Speaker 2: convinced us to get married on the show. Oh my gosh,
- 21:06Speaker 2: it was nuts, like nuts, But reality TV can pay
- 21:10Speaker 2: really good. But you have to ask yourself if it's
- 21:12Speaker 2: worth like exposing your life. And that's the part that, Yeah,
- 21:19Speaker 2: I don't know, did.
- 21:20Speaker 1: You feel like it was worth exposing your life?
- 21:23Speaker 2: I feel like I build a fan based off of it,
- 21:25Speaker 2: and I have a following and people really got to
- 21:28Speaker 2: know me, and people really do who really tapped in
- 21:32Speaker 2: and watched and paid attention to my personality. When I
- 21:35Speaker 2: meet them, they're like, I love you and this is why.
- 21:37Speaker 2: And they always tell me like I showed strength because
- 21:39Speaker 2: it's hard to walk away from like a marriage and
- 21:42Speaker 2: stuff like that. I have my regrets cause it's just like, oh,
- 21:46Speaker 2: it's just still when you get in it, you can forget.
- 21:49Speaker 2: The cameras are there. So it's just like now I'm
- 21:52Speaker 2: letting the world see me, like go off on you know,
- 21:55Speaker 2: my eggs at the time, and you know, but then
- 21:58Speaker 2: it's like, y'all were my following was like with me,
- 22:02Speaker 2: y'all watched me announce that I was pregnant, have my
- 22:04Speaker 2: first child, like be pregnant, like my first marriage, like
- 22:09Speaker 2: y'all like did this with me? So it's a certain
- 22:12Speaker 2: love there, but it is a little tricky. Another thing
- 22:16Speaker 2: is before I was on the show, I remember I
- 22:19Speaker 2: took this meeting with like a big label, and the
- 22:23Speaker 2: head of the label was like, if you actually do
- 22:26Speaker 2: get on love and hip hop, I'll sign you and
- 22:29Speaker 2: I'll really get behind your music because I like the
- 22:31Speaker 2: fact that you have TV to mix with it. Then
- 22:33Speaker 2: I had other people like, oh, we don't want nothing
- 22:35Speaker 2: to do with her because she's on reality TV so
- 22:38Speaker 2: she's probably messy and drama, and like, we don't want
- 22:41Speaker 2: to sign that. We don't want. It was like so
- 22:43Speaker 2: many it made you be like, well, then I don't
- 22:47Speaker 2: need to be I need to just focus on my music.
- 22:49Speaker 2: And it's so funny because then when I got off
- 22:51Speaker 2: TV for a while, I'm like jumping around, but I
- 22:54Speaker 2: just want you to know how crazy it is mixed
- 22:56Speaker 2: with music. Then people were like, so if we could
- 23:00Speaker 2: get her back on TV, then we'd love for her
- 23:02Speaker 2: to be a brand ambassador for such and such if
- 23:04Speaker 2: we could get her back, And it was such a
- 23:05Speaker 2: hurtful thing because it's like at this point, you gotta
- 23:08Speaker 2: sayf what everybody say and really do what's best for
- 23:10Speaker 2: you and what you want to do and what's gonna
- 23:13Speaker 2: pay your bills and make you straight, because people will
- 23:16Speaker 2: toss you around like crazy, like, oh, well, we don't
- 23:19Speaker 2: want her because she's not on TV, but we really
- 23:21Speaker 2: want her because she is on TV. We'll put her
- 23:22Speaker 2: back on TV and we'll give her an Oreos deal,
- 23:25Speaker 2: Like what.
- 23:28Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
- 23:31Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.
- 23:34Speaker 2: No.
- 23:34Speaker 1: I always tell people that reality TV number one is
- 23:38Speaker 1: the toughest gig in the industry. And you're somebody who
- 23:42Speaker 1: asks you're somebody who's been in the music industry. And baby,
- 23:45Speaker 1: I've heard horror stories about the music industry. Yea, horror stories.
- 23:50Speaker 1: But one thing I always tell people is even musicians
- 23:54Speaker 1: hide behind the artist, right, if you're not doing reality television. Yeah,
- 23:58Speaker 1: like you could be on safe in balads and behind
- 24:01Speaker 1: the scenes, you could be somebody completely different, But on stage,
- 24:04Speaker 1: you're presenting to your fans this persona because you're an artist, right.
- 24:11Speaker 1: You may not always be that as the human version
- 24:13Speaker 1: of yourself, but when it comes to reality, it's tough
- 24:17Speaker 1: because it's what you said you are giving the world,
- 24:20Speaker 1: your entire life. We saw what you was going through
- 24:22Speaker 1: with your mom, your mother in law, your now ex husband.
- 24:29Speaker 1: When it came to doing reality TV. Do you think
- 24:32Speaker 1: it ruined the respect that people had for you in
- 24:36Speaker 1: the music industry?
- 24:37Speaker 2: No, for me, but that's what I worked hard to
- 24:41Speaker 2: be able to say. No. I built my relationships. Like
- 24:45Speaker 2: a lot of people know me. I've met them personally
- 24:48Speaker 2: that goten in with me. They love my music. Whatever.
- 24:51Speaker 2: The only thing is like at a time, okay, so
- 24:54Speaker 2: the industry changes like every five years. Now it's back
- 24:56Speaker 2: hot again to be to have some so now oh
- 25:00Speaker 2: it's like actually, if you're not in no drama, you
- 25:02Speaker 2: almost not even they need they feed off of that.
- 25:06Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's like ooh, like what
- 25:08Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Like she's on this show and we
- 25:10Speaker 2: got this Okay, what's her tea? Okay, good, now she
- 25:12Speaker 2: was on the block. Now let's get her on the data.
- 25:14Speaker 2: It's actually from the phone calls I get they want
- 25:16Speaker 2: you more. I thank god that I have another outlet,
- 25:19Speaker 2: which is acting. But yeah, now from just like knowing
- 25:23Speaker 2: people I feel like and seeing even other girls, they
- 25:27Speaker 2: get more from being on reality TV and stuff. Back then,
- 25:31Speaker 2: it was like a negative thing, a little bit like, oh,
- 25:33Speaker 2: she's on there, we don't want to. So yeah, I
- 25:35Speaker 2: do feel like I did miss some opportunities back then,
- 25:38Speaker 2: five years ago or so because I was on reality TV.
- 25:42Speaker 2: But when you're getting paid ten fifteen, twenty thousand an episode,
- 25:45Speaker 2: really you should say who cares? But you do care
- 25:48Speaker 2: when you don't want to just be a reality star
- 25:50Speaker 2: like I sing, I write, I act. I don't want
- 25:53Speaker 2: to be stuck in no box. So yeah, that part
- 25:57Speaker 2: of it, I'll say, Yeah, it can be a little
- 25:59Speaker 2: like tricky. But my advice if someone were asking me,
- 26:03Speaker 2: would be like, just do what works for you at
- 26:06Speaker 2: that time, because when you don't have that opportunity, say
- 26:10Speaker 2: someone offers you reality show and you pass it down,
- 26:12Speaker 2: pass on it. Yes you can get other bigger things,
- 26:15Speaker 2: but it might be like a little gap where you
- 26:17Speaker 2: don't have nothing for a few years. You know, I
- 26:21Speaker 2: was on reality TV and was hot. I was everywhere.
- 26:25Speaker 2: I was like on TV every Tuesday. You know. I
- 26:27Speaker 2: met Rihanna and I was like hanging with her, and
- 26:29Speaker 2: she was like a big fan of the show, and
- 26:31Speaker 2: I'm like a huge fan of hers. And we got
- 26:34Speaker 2: to like build a little friendship and like all this
- 26:36Speaker 2: cool stuff that like I didn't know I was going
- 26:38Speaker 2: to be doing. And then it went like and it
- 26:42Speaker 2: went really quiet, and I didn't have TV, I didn't
- 26:47Speaker 2: have my husband anymore, I didn't have a man. I
- 26:50Speaker 2: felt like I didn't have nothing, and I was just like,
- 26:52Speaker 2: what do I do now? You know? And I had
- 26:55Speaker 2: my music. But even with that, that's when I started
- 26:58Speaker 2: getting those reality checks. Well, if you were still on TV,
- 27:01Speaker 2: we would we would go ahead and distribute your project.
- 27:04Speaker 2: We would put you out if we could get you to.
- 27:08Speaker 1: What.
- 27:08Speaker 2: Yeah, And then somebody called me and was like, well,
- 27:11Speaker 2: fashion Nova said they'll give you this brand deal if
- 27:14Speaker 2: they want to know are you back doing reality again?
- 27:17Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, So now I just do
- 27:20Speaker 2: what I want to do because now I'm back in
- 27:22Speaker 2: everybody's faces with movies and TV and stuff like that.
- 27:25Speaker 2: And it's like, I'm never letting nobody do that to
- 27:27Speaker 2: me again. You just have to carve out your own
- 27:29Speaker 2: thing and do you because people will follow what you're
- 27:33Speaker 2: doing when you're just on your own train. But when
- 27:35Speaker 2: I was trying to keep up, I was begging people
- 27:38Speaker 2: to give me a chance again, and some of those
- 27:42Speaker 2: same people call me now that wouldn't even like answer
- 27:46Speaker 2: the phone.
- 27:46Speaker 1: That's how it is. And that's why I tell the girls.
- 27:49Speaker 1: I tell all the girls, Lerica, if you're if you're
- 27:52Speaker 1: blessed now, it's a blessing to be on a reality show,
- 27:57Speaker 1: milking for what it's worth. And that's the reason while
- 28:00Speaker 1: a lot of the girls leave and when they leave,
- 28:03Speaker 1: they're like, my phone ain't ringing, because the only reason
- 28:08Speaker 1: your phone was ringing was because you were on a
- 28:10Speaker 1: hit reality show. And that's why he said a lot
- 28:12Speaker 1: of girls go back to it. Who said, I'm never
- 28:14Speaker 1: going back to reality TV. Well I came back because
- 28:17Speaker 1: no girl. You came back and the checks were dry.
- 28:20Speaker 1: You came back because you were no longer relevant. Let's
- 28:23Speaker 1: keep it a buck, Like, stop disrespecting the job of
- 28:26Speaker 1: reality television. It's a cute opportunity for what you make
- 28:30Speaker 1: of it. That's why I'm so happy you kept it real,
- 28:33Speaker 1: Like you wrote songs for Chris Brown, Beyonce, etc. You
- 28:36Speaker 1: were on a hit show. Even you were like look
- 28:39Speaker 1: at the time, I didn't realize like, oh shit, these
- 28:43Speaker 1: people really do fuck with me. Yes, I'm a good person.
- 28:46Speaker 1: I'm talented, but also because I'm relevant. I'm on TV
- 28:50Speaker 1: every week, period, and these brands want to make sure
- 28:53Speaker 1: that a relevant person is her spokesperson period. So I'm
- 28:57Speaker 1: so glad you spoke up about that when you were
- 29:00Speaker 1: on the show. Obviously we saw that your biggest drama
- 29:06Speaker 1: was with your now ex husband when it comes to
- 29:09Speaker 1: a one and you being on the show with him together.
- 29:15Speaker 1: Was it challenging for you to give your real life
- 29:22Speaker 1: to this man you're in love with, but also the
- 29:27Speaker 1: pressures of your mother in law and your mom, and
- 29:30Speaker 1: then the pressures of the show.
- 29:32Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it was so much pressure. And that's
- 29:35Speaker 2: why I say it's like fifty fifty A part of me,
- 29:38Speaker 2: if I did it again, I might not have done
- 29:41Speaker 2: it and we might still be together. But then the
- 29:44Speaker 2: other part is like fifty percent of me is like
- 29:46Speaker 2: that has me where I am now. All the opportunities
- 29:49Speaker 2: I get now is because a lot of people were like, well,
- 29:51Speaker 2: people when they meet me, they're like, I love Some
- 29:53Speaker 2: people are like I really love your music, or Phena's
- 29:55Speaker 2: my favorite song. I hear that a lot.
- 29:57Speaker 1: Now.
- 29:57Speaker 2: It's starting to be oh my gosh, Forever US is
- 30:00Speaker 2: my favorite movies I loved you in that, so it
- 30:02Speaker 2: spread its changing. But at first, yes, it was just
- 30:05Speaker 2: strictly love and Hip Hop. It was just like, oh
- 30:06Speaker 2: my god, I love you from the show. So when
- 30:08Speaker 2: you realize you build your core fan base from that,
- 30:09Speaker 2: you're like, eh, but no, like putting your life on
- 30:12Speaker 2: there and stuff. Yeah, that's like dangerous because I feel like,
- 30:17Speaker 2: for example, a one like I think that not saying
- 30:20Speaker 2: he didn't girls didn't like him, but it's a whole
- 30:22Speaker 2: different ball game when you put somebody on TV. Because
- 30:25Speaker 2: I brought him in that meeting, they called me to
- 30:28Speaker 2: be on the show, I said, a one, come meet them,
- 30:31Speaker 2: So technically I got him on the show. And then
- 30:33Speaker 2: now other women are like, they don't care if you're married.
- 30:36Speaker 2: They're just doing the most. They're dming and they're they're
- 30:38Speaker 2: throwing themselves and throwing them in.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Their mind, they were ladies throwing themselves at a one
- 30:44Speaker 1: before Love and Hip Hop.
- 30:46Speaker 2: That's my point. No, not as much. Of course, he's
- 30:48Speaker 2: on TV with the jury and hey, I may one,
- 30:51Speaker 2: So now, no, it's different. We're not even gonna act
- 30:54Speaker 2: like it's not different. It was different. Yes, they were
- 30:56Speaker 2: throwing themselves at him.
- 30:58Speaker 1: And Was it challenging for him to handle that because
- 31:05Speaker 1: it was new attention?
- 31:07Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I feel like. Yeah, I feel like
- 31:09Speaker 2: it was challenging because it's like new attention. And then
- 31:12Speaker 2: people women are so disrespectful like to marriages. I'm not
- 31:17Speaker 2: saying all women, let's be clear, because yeah, but from
- 31:21Speaker 2: my experience that I saw were really disrespectful. I have
- 31:24Speaker 2: like a rule if somebody's married and a man's trying
- 31:26Speaker 2: to talk to me, especially because I've been married, I
- 31:28Speaker 2: will not give him the time of day. If I
- 31:30Speaker 2: am knowing that he's married, I'm like, don't even come
- 31:34Speaker 2: over here, Like I'll be mean to the guy, because
- 31:36Speaker 2: I know what that feels like to be married and
- 31:38Speaker 2: have somebody whatever. And I'm like, nope, was.
- 31:45Speaker 1: A one unfaithful to you throughout your marriage to him?
- 31:49Speaker 2: M yeah, super unfaithful?
- 31:53Speaker 1: How did you find out?
- 31:54Speaker 2: I mean, I was getting pictures and DMS and phone
- 31:58Speaker 2: calls and like just a lot of stuff. Like girls,
- 32:01Speaker 2: you know, they tell they would get mad like, well
- 32:03Speaker 2: you weren't this, this and that, And when I finally
- 32:05Speaker 2: they get mad at him. Oh him, Like if you
- 32:08Speaker 2: start catching feelings, now, that's what would get him told
- 32:11Speaker 2: on or not even feelings that a lot of the
- 32:13Speaker 2: girls say he promised them like a record deal, or
- 32:16Speaker 2: maybe he didn't. They could be lying. I don't know.
- 32:19Speaker 2: The girls were trying to get on the show storyline.
- 32:21Speaker 2: Some people would lie on him, you know. But then
- 32:26Speaker 2: when I finally left out of the house and we
- 32:30Speaker 2: would have just separated and then I started dealing with somebody,
- 32:32Speaker 2: then it's like, well, you're cheering on me. How could you?
- 32:34Speaker 2: And it's just like, you know, I left and then
- 32:38Speaker 2: did me. I wasn't like never ever doing anything in
- 32:41Speaker 2: the house under the roof with us. It's always like
- 32:44Speaker 2: we move, we're not together. We're saying this official we're
- 32:47Speaker 2: done type of thing, because I don't believe in like
- 32:49Speaker 2: just being with someone and cheating on them.
- 32:53Speaker 1: When the rumor came around that you were sleeping with
- 32:57Speaker 1: Safari and you, of course den I did so. Fari
- 33:03Speaker 1: intimated that it was true. There were text messages shown.
- 33:08Speaker 1: That was to believe that it was true. What was
- 33:13Speaker 1: that like dealing with that? I mean, it came to
- 33:14Speaker 1: find out that it wasn't and he apologized to you
- 33:16Speaker 1: in the end, But I really want to have you
- 33:21Speaker 1: take us back to that moment because you were fighting
- 33:25Speaker 1: for your life.
- 33:27Speaker 2: No, that was like horrible, And that was horrible because
- 33:32Speaker 2: you know, Sofari was coming off of Nikki and he
- 33:34Speaker 2: was like the it guy that everybody wanted. And I
- 33:37Speaker 2: think what makes it hard for people to believe that
- 33:39Speaker 2: I didn't deal with him to this day, if they
- 33:41Speaker 2: want to believe that is because they're like, you know,
- 33:44Speaker 2: the rumor was going around he had a big thing
- 33:46Speaker 2: and all this kind of stuff, and it's like, Okay,
- 33:48Speaker 2: what does that have to do with me? Whatever, But
- 33:50Speaker 2: the problem and then Nikki and then all that hype,
- 33:53Speaker 2: So maybe in people's minds like, well, everybody will want him,
- 33:57Speaker 2: but I had someone and I was with they want.
- 33:59Speaker 2: The problem was if you didn't have a hot storyline
- 34:02Speaker 2: on Love and Hip Hop, you don't get on the episodes.
- 34:05Speaker 2: And if you don't get on the episodes, you don't
- 34:08Speaker 2: get paid. You only get paid by every episode you're on.
- 34:12Speaker 2: So we ended up having the hottest storyline because of that.
- 34:16Speaker 2: So everybody was getting the bag start there. Initially a
- 34:21Speaker 2: one didn't like that Safari was like too friendly with me,
- 34:25Speaker 2: and they were talking about that. On the side, He's like, man,
- 34:27Speaker 2: you told my web she was beautiful, and it was
- 34:29Speaker 2: like kind of like a joke, and then they decided, well,
- 34:32Speaker 2: we should talk about this on the show. And one
- 34:34Speaker 2: came to me and asked me was I cool? And
- 34:35Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't care if you confronted him about
- 34:37Speaker 2: being friendly or whatever. You didn't like, like, yeah, that's juicy,
- 34:41Speaker 2: and it just happened so cool. Did I know that
- 34:45Speaker 2: was going to turn into that. No, So when I
- 34:48Speaker 2: agreed to it one day before we went off set,
- 34:51Speaker 2: it wanted to give me your phone and he erased
- 34:54Speaker 2: me in Safari's text. It was nothing crazy in the
- 34:57Speaker 2: text message. So in the scene where he said give
- 35:00Speaker 2: me your phone in one of the scenes and turns
- 35:02Speaker 2: it around, it was like, why are you in Safaris?
- 35:04Speaker 2: Text message is gone. I was stuck in real camera
- 35:07Speaker 2: time because I'm like, you erase the text so that
- 35:10Speaker 2: this could be a juicy scene, but I don't want
- 35:12Speaker 2: to say that on camera because we really were together.
- 35:16Speaker 2: So I was just like and so you know, afterwards,
- 35:18Speaker 2: he's like, I just did that, you know a little camera.
- 35:20Speaker 2: But that added to me looking like I'm being sneaky
- 35:23Speaker 2: and I'm up to something. So it was just like wow,
- 35:26Speaker 2: because he was just like, why was just doing it
- 35:28Speaker 2: because it's you know, a juicy storyline, Like yeah, but
- 35:30Speaker 2: that makes me look crazy. So I'm texting Safari on
- 35:32Speaker 2: the side, like when are you going to say on
- 35:33Speaker 2: love and hip Hop that we've never deal with each other.
- 35:35Speaker 2: I've never been in alone with you in the room.
- 35:37Speaker 2: He's like, well, there, it's just juicy. It's just give
- 35:39Speaker 2: me a second working. So I was just caught in
- 35:41Speaker 2: a storyline yues that went from a flirting storyline and
- 35:46Speaker 2: then I was really pregnant. And that's what made me
- 35:49Speaker 2: mad because I'm like, y'all making me look like, oh,
- 35:50Speaker 2: who's baby? Is it? Like? Don't play with me?
- 35:53Speaker 1: Yeah, because then became like this big paternity scandal where
- 35:56Speaker 1: even a one question and paternity yeah I had.
- 35:58Speaker 2: To one wasn't really quiet and nothing for real, but
- 36:01Speaker 2: it had to it was.
- 36:04Speaker 1: Now all of that was made up by the men.
- 36:09Speaker 2: Exactly. It was. The part was true was the whole like, well,
- 36:13Speaker 2: what was y'all talking about? Whys he so cool with you?
- 36:15Speaker 2: What did he have to say? That part was like
- 36:16Speaker 2: where ay one was being a little jealous. That was cute.
- 36:18Speaker 2: I was cool with that. Yeah, I was like I
- 36:20Speaker 2: was pulling it once aside, I'm like, okay, so you
- 36:21Speaker 2: didn't tell me it was going to turn into because
- 36:24Speaker 2: if you notice in the scene, Safari would never say
- 36:25Speaker 2: yes or no. So that's what was making it juicy.
- 36:28Speaker 2: Like when ray J is questioning, I mean well, and
- 36:31Speaker 2: we was chilling, I'm like, bruh, y'all got me looking
- 36:33Speaker 2: like real crazy. I have never seen Safari like clothes whatever.
- 36:40Speaker 2: We've never even chilled like this. It's always been a group.
- 36:43Speaker 2: It's always been people. I've never been alone. He's never
- 36:45Speaker 2: been to my house alone. I've never been to his house.
- 36:47Speaker 2: Loans always like what they want or something. So that
- 36:50Speaker 2: was wow. I was fighting for my whole life. I
- 36:51Speaker 2: don't even like talk about it because I liked that.
- 36:55Speaker 2: That's like an old thing now because we have actually
- 36:57Speaker 2: dms of him like just talking to me, even like
- 37:00Speaker 2: within the last couple of years and just being like
- 37:02Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, Like that was stupid. So I do
- 37:04Speaker 2: have nothing but love for Safari because he did like
- 37:06Speaker 2: apologize to me privately. He was like yo, like I
- 37:09Speaker 2: have actual proof messages of him being like it was
- 37:13Speaker 2: just a fun storyline. We're just having a good time.
- 37:15Speaker 2: I guess I didn't take the time to think about
- 37:16Speaker 2: how that would make you look, and I am sorry.
- 37:19Speaker 2: So we're past it.
- 37:20Speaker 1: Okay, well that's good. There was also this altercation that
- 37:24Speaker 1: you and Chemishell had. You guys appeared to be friends
- 37:30Speaker 1: and then you know, there was an argument that ensued,
- 37:33Speaker 1: and you know how the cameras shift when they appears
- 37:37Speaker 1: to be a physical altercation. Did you and Chemis shall
- 37:40Speaker 1: ever physically fight and touch each other? No?
- 37:42Speaker 2: Are you talking about marriage boot Camp?
- 37:44Speaker 1: Yeah? No.
- 37:46Speaker 2: They wouldn't let me get to her. I tried, why
- 37:50Speaker 2: did you try? Seeing back to me not being a fighter?
- 37:54Speaker 2: But that girl Caemra show is like she just she's
- 38:00Speaker 2: weird because she she called me even before that show
- 38:03Speaker 2: she told me I should do it. She's like, you
- 38:05Speaker 2: should do marriage boot Camp. I'm doing it. We're cool now.
- 38:07Speaker 2: I think this would be a great thing. She had
- 38:09Speaker 2: publicly apologized on Love and Hip Hop and said she
- 38:13Speaker 2: was so she personally apologized to me over the phone
- 38:15Speaker 2: and then was like, I'm going to on camera say
- 38:17Speaker 2: I'm sorry to you because I was wrong, and she
- 38:19Speaker 2: did and it's an episode out. And then when we
- 38:22Speaker 2: got on Marriage boot Camp, I let my guard down
- 38:24Speaker 2: because I'm thinking like we're past any drama, like we're
- 38:27Speaker 2: cool and something that happened. It's been a little minute.
- 38:31Speaker 2: Don't quote me exact, but something with like some phones,
- 38:34Speaker 2: like they take away your phones in the house, and
- 38:37Speaker 2: I guess like one of the producers or somebody was
- 38:40Speaker 2: still giving her her phone. I didn't say nothing they wanted.
- 38:44Speaker 2: I guess they want to said something like this is
- 38:48Speaker 2: don't we're not playing favoritism. Give me a lyric of
- 38:50Speaker 2: our phones. We need to check on our son. Give
- 38:52Speaker 2: us our phones. She's upstairs like going crazy calling me
- 38:58Speaker 2: when a one's the one who said it all out
- 38:59Speaker 2: of my name that b I TCF heard da da
- 39:02Speaker 2: da dada. You know so what it's my phone if
- 39:04Speaker 2: I got I'm not even the one that said anything
- 39:05Speaker 2: because I didn't know what. I just know I wanted
- 39:07Speaker 2: my phone, my phone to call and make sure my
- 39:09Speaker 2: son was okay. And it was just like it was
- 39:13Speaker 2: her disrespect and I was like, you know what, that's
- 39:16Speaker 2: gonna be the last time, like you too, wish you
- 39:18Speaker 2: watch it, you say sorry, and every time you do
- 39:20Speaker 2: it again, you get me on camera. I don't know
- 39:22Speaker 2: if you think I'm like scared of you or I'm
- 39:24Speaker 2: a punk or something. I will fight you, like you're
- 39:26Speaker 2: gonna stop, uh, you know, like just grabbing me up,
- 39:31Speaker 2: calling me out my name, being disrespectful because he said
- 39:34Speaker 2: something about the phone once again. She ended up on
- 39:36Speaker 2: that episode later, but I literally jumped at her like
- 39:39Speaker 2: to fight her. In security stopped it, and even off
- 39:44Speaker 2: camera when she would walk past, I would try to
- 39:46Speaker 2: get to her. Alerica, I was like mad, mad because
- 39:50Speaker 2: I was like this about the third or fourth time,
- 39:51Speaker 2: and then you tried it with the even the thing
- 39:54Speaker 2: with the where she was set up with the ivy
- 39:57Speaker 2: to her and it was real funny. On Loving Hip Hop.
- 39:59Speaker 2: I felt set up in that scene. They're like, yeah,
- 40:01Speaker 2: go in there and talk to her. She just had surgery,
- 40:04Speaker 2: just build her up, da da da and she like
- 40:06Speaker 2: literally lied on me like, oh you're late and you're
- 40:08Speaker 2: a diva and you're da da da like anything for views,
- 40:11Speaker 2: That's the thing, you don't ever know what. That's why
- 40:13Speaker 2: I stopped doing reality too after a while, because it's
- 40:15Speaker 2: like you don't know what you're walking in.
- 40:18Speaker 1: So you know, that scene is played every six months
- 40:21Speaker 1: on Twitter. Yeah, so came Michelle's on stage. She has
- 40:24Speaker 1: the ivy uh huh and y'all getting into it, and
- 40:28Speaker 1: she obviously tries to fight you with the bags and everything.
- 40:31Speaker 2: She wants you to do that, but yeah, she wants
- 40:35Speaker 2: your to do that, and please. She just was screaming.
- 40:37Speaker 2: See I'm soft spoken, and Camagelle talks loud, so it
- 40:40Speaker 2: always looks like she's winning. So that's why I'm like, girl,
- 40:43Speaker 2: just fight me, because maybe people gonna hear you over me,
- 40:45Speaker 2: Like I have a very very soft voice, so because
- 40:49Speaker 2: you can outscream me, like okay, fight me at this point.
- 40:52Speaker 2: And that's what I really felt. And like, you know,
- 40:54Speaker 2: it's been some time, and you know she's doing her
- 40:57Speaker 2: thing and I think, you know, she's a dope artist
- 40:59Speaker 2: and stuff like that, but I don't think she's a
- 41:00Speaker 2: dope person. And so that's my own personal experience with her.
- 41:03Speaker 2: It's just like you just do too much. She was
- 41:06Speaker 2: like picking at me in marriage bout cap. I'm not
- 41:08Speaker 2: bothering you. Why are you upstairs cussing me out? Because
- 41:11Speaker 2: I want my phone? Because he said something about you
- 41:13Speaker 2: with your phone. Why is it always something with you
- 41:16Speaker 2: with me? So that's why I was like, I'm gonna
- 41:19Speaker 2: like come at you and I did and I was
- 41:22Speaker 2: so serious and so mad, and you know that's been
- 41:26Speaker 2: what four years whatever now, so again what time I
- 41:29Speaker 2: do get over stuff? But I just I don't really
- 41:32Speaker 2: like her as a person. I feel like she just it,
- 41:36Speaker 2: that's just who she is.
- 41:37Speaker 1: She.
- 41:37Speaker 2: I feel like she likes mess and she does this
- 41:39Speaker 2: whole I've crown, I'm so much better and then it
- 41:42Speaker 2: comes up again. So but I think it's a little
- 41:47Speaker 2: bit of behind the scenes admiration because she'll be like,
- 41:52Speaker 2: I love your song, Marriott, and but she wants to
- 41:55Speaker 2: make me feel like, well, but I'm the bigger art
- 41:58Speaker 2: It's just things she says. And it's just like I
- 42:00Speaker 2: don't do nothing but pay respect to you as an artist.
- 42:03Speaker 2: It's not about I'm not trying to say I'm bigger.
- 42:05Speaker 2: Like you've sold more records than me. Cool, you've had
- 42:08Speaker 2: more success as an artists. Cool, but somehow we still
- 42:10Speaker 2: keep ending up in the same room as babes. So
- 42:13Speaker 2: I'm on a show that you obviously had to be
- 42:16Speaker 2: on too. So something is something. But it's cool, Like
- 42:20Speaker 2: you've been on bigger stages, no more than me, Like
- 42:22Speaker 2: I give people their props, like it's a lot of
- 42:24Speaker 2: singers that I've watched and they surpassed me and we
- 42:29Speaker 2: were like in the room writing together and stuff like that.
- 42:31Speaker 2: But it's okay. My God's timing for me is God's
- 42:34Speaker 2: timing for me, just like I'm doing great things now
- 42:36Speaker 2: and those are my things that are for me.
- 42:39Speaker 1: How do you feel about her being on Real Housepins
- 42:41Speaker 1: of Atlanta.
- 42:42Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't watch that show, and I
- 42:44Speaker 2: don't care what she's doing. Next question, you and your mom.
- 42:57Speaker 1: Your mom is great television. I think she's so iconic.
- 43:01Speaker 1: We saw even the two of you battle on the show.
- 43:06Speaker 1: Of course, as relates to your then marriage to a one.
- 43:09Speaker 1: What is your relationship like today with your mom?
- 43:12Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, my mom is my best friend. We
- 43:14Speaker 2: are super super close. That's my dog. I just was
- 43:17Speaker 2: with my mom. Have a movie out that came out
- 43:20Speaker 2: February twentieth, by the way, called Unrequited, So y'all have
- 43:24Speaker 2: to check that out. The reason I brought that up
- 43:26Speaker 2: is I was just in La filming another movie, and
- 43:28Speaker 2: so when I wasn't like at my room, I stayed
- 43:31Speaker 2: with my mom and we had a ball. She came
- 43:33Speaker 2: on set and we like chill. We went out to dinner.
- 43:37Speaker 2: I took her to this, like I don't know what
- 43:41Speaker 2: it's called, like a sushi and poorish type of like
- 43:45Speaker 2: high end nice restaurant I have found out there and
- 43:46Speaker 2: we were like obsessed with it and we won't have food.
- 43:50Speaker 2: And yeah, she's gonna come back to Atlanta soon too.
- 43:53Speaker 1: So how do you feel when people say that they
- 43:55Speaker 1: think you two have a codependent relationship? It comes to
- 44:00Speaker 1: each other like although you guys are obviously mother and daughter,
- 44:05Speaker 1: it sort of feels like you both lean on each
- 44:09Speaker 1: other in a way that seems to be a little
- 44:11Speaker 1: bit unhealthy, a little strange for some people when it
- 44:15Speaker 1: comes to mother daughter, she named you after her, they
- 44:18Speaker 1: feel like she's super into your personal business. You allow
- 44:22Speaker 1: her to be in your personal business. That you're a
- 44:25Speaker 1: grown woman. You know, people have to say, Almerica, you
- 44:30Speaker 1: know it's time for you to take your mouth opputity
- 44:33Speaker 1: of your mother and and be a grown woman and
- 44:37Speaker 1: stop having your mom fight your battles.
- 44:39Speaker 2: Hilarious, that's to hear what people say.
- 44:43Speaker 1: So if they say child, but how do even people
- 44:49Speaker 1: really do believe that that? You know, they just feel like, yes,
- 44:52Speaker 1: y'all are close, but they feel like it's unhealthy.
- 44:56Speaker 2: I don't need my mom to fight my battles. My
- 44:59Speaker 2: mom sometimes will just I can't tell my mom what
- 45:04Speaker 2: not to say, like if she's there, Like the last
- 45:07Speaker 2: incident that happened, she was there, so I couldn't be like, oh,
- 45:10Speaker 2: don't talk or like people might have an opinion, but
- 45:13Speaker 2: we like she's right there. So if she's right there,
- 45:16Speaker 2: like say me and you were sitting right here and
- 45:17Speaker 2: somebody walks up like it starts confronting me, you probably
- 45:20Speaker 2: gonna be like, yo, what are you doing? Like naturally,
- 45:23Speaker 2: you're not even my mom, but just as someone sitting
- 45:25Speaker 2: right here are gonna say something. So sometimes it's been
- 45:27Speaker 2: those type of incidents. But if my mom's not there,
- 45:29Speaker 2: I handle my own. That's funny. So I don't know,
- 45:34Speaker 2: like I don't really care what people say. I'm out
- 45:36Speaker 2: here in Atlanta by myself doing my own thing, and
- 45:38Speaker 2: my mom's in LA doing her thing. We're very close, though,
- 45:42Speaker 2: and maybe those people have their dad and their mom,
- 45:47Speaker 2: and maybe they have like their sister who they can
- 45:49Speaker 2: call to come, you know, have their back. I know
- 45:52Speaker 2: a lot of girls who'll be like, yeah, my sister's coming,
- 45:54Speaker 2: and she gonna pull up with me, my sister, don't
- 45:56Speaker 2: play about me or whatever, Like I don't have that.
- 45:59Speaker 2: So all I have is my mom. You know, I
- 46:03Speaker 2: don't have like a big you know, a lot of
- 46:07Speaker 2: my family on my mother's side have been passing away,
- 46:09Speaker 2: so it's just like, you know, my auntie's like one,
- 46:12Speaker 2: my auntie's left literally and like my uncle, a couple uncles.
- 46:17Speaker 2: A lot of my mom's brothers and sisters recently passed
- 46:19Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So there's not you know a
- 46:24Speaker 2: lot of people. If people say I'm depending on that,
- 46:26Speaker 2: I can depend on other than like other my homegirls
- 46:29Speaker 2: and stuff. So maybe those people have their situations. But
- 46:33Speaker 2: I've learned to not care so much what people think
- 46:38Speaker 2: because those people are not there when you crying and
- 46:41Speaker 2: you're going through things and stuff like that. I can't
- 46:45Speaker 2: call them. So I mean, say what y'all want to say,
- 46:48Speaker 2: I don't really care.
- 46:49Speaker 1: Do you think she had a role to play when
- 46:53Speaker 1: it came to you divorcing a one, No, that was.
- 46:57Speaker 2: Just I mean a role in the sense of the drama.
- 47:00Speaker 2: People were talking about the drama on the show being overwhelming.
- 47:03Speaker 2: That was like kind of a lot. But I think
- 47:06Speaker 2: us just being like on TV, all the opinions and
- 47:10Speaker 2: the you know, well she did this with you should
- 47:12Speaker 2: you shouldn't deal with that? You should. It's just like
- 47:16Speaker 2: I think that and then our moms like maybe arguing
- 47:19Speaker 2: a lot was a little stressful, but I think we
- 47:21Speaker 2: kind of knew how to still handle that. I know
- 47:24Speaker 2: it was so entertaining for the world, but it was
- 47:26Speaker 2: a little stressful for us. But was that like just oh,
- 47:29Speaker 2: that's the reason we got divorced. No, But I do
- 47:32Speaker 2: feel like if you have a relationship off TV, you
- 47:37Speaker 2: probably will last more than on TV. I don't think
- 47:41Speaker 2: I would ever bring like a man, my real, real,
- 47:43Speaker 2: real relationship on TV. Ever.
- 47:45Speaker 1: Again, what do you think finally led you to file
- 47:51Speaker 1: for divorce?
- 47:57Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll talk about that. Just like it
- 48:01Speaker 2: just it just gets like hard, you know. I think
- 48:06Speaker 2: the TV thing again was too much on us because
- 48:08Speaker 2: when I look back, now we're closer as co parenting,
- 48:12Speaker 2: Like now we're cool and I feel like we're cooler,
- 48:15Speaker 2: like we get along better because it's not all that
- 48:18Speaker 2: stuff like with the TV and the episodes. And I
- 48:22Speaker 2: remember we did an episode and there was a condom
- 48:25Speaker 2: floating in front of like our house, like right in front,
- 48:28Speaker 2: and one of the producers was like look, and I
- 48:31Speaker 2: instantly got mad, Like I instantly was like, oh, well,
- 48:33Speaker 2: who's condiment? And then in reality, it's like I don't
- 48:35Speaker 2: know really where that came from with So it's just
- 48:37Speaker 2: like it's so like you just always feel like something's
- 48:41Speaker 2: going on, even if nothing's going on. So I feel
- 48:44Speaker 2: like I'm not blaming the show because you got to
- 48:47Speaker 2: take responsibility for our stuff. It's not like, oh, that
- 48:50Speaker 2: shows why we're the worce but doesn't play a part. Yeah,
- 48:53Speaker 2: So it's just like the I just couldn't take all
- 48:56Speaker 2: the stuff with the too much with women women.
- 49:01Speaker 1: You know, there's a rumor that he had an outside
- 49:03Speaker 1: kid on you.
- 49:05Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 49:07Speaker 1: Is that true?
- 49:08Speaker 2: No comment, no comment.
- 49:14Speaker 1: Do you think there's a world where you and a
- 49:17Speaker 1: one could reconcile?
- 49:20Speaker 2: H No, I think that's ship sailed. I think it's
- 49:23Speaker 2: like everybody's just doing their own thing. I'm so focused
- 49:26Speaker 2: on me and my child now, I'm not even like
- 49:30Speaker 2: really dating real like I talk to people and stuff
- 49:36Speaker 2: like that. But I think I think that what I've
- 49:42Speaker 2: been through in love just kind of made me be
- 49:46Speaker 2: like I'm just kind of cool, like I'm okay with
- 49:49Speaker 2: just like working on my music, doing my shows, doing
- 49:53Speaker 2: my movies, and completely pouring into ocean. And I feel
- 49:57Speaker 2: like he's thriving because of that, Like I'm just sitting
- 49:59Speaker 2: there when he gets out of school. I have a
- 50:01Speaker 2: routine where I make his food, I cook for him,
- 50:03Speaker 2: I help him with his homework, like we play like
- 50:06Speaker 2: I just put all that into him. I feel like
- 50:09Speaker 2: people let you down and it's gonna take a really
- 50:15Speaker 2: certain type of man for me to like open up
- 50:18Speaker 2: again because I'm not. And maybe that's a little sad
- 50:24Speaker 2: because then it's like everybody wants somebody, but I'm just not.
- 50:29Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think I'm cool, like I'm abstinent,
- 50:32Speaker 2: I'm sullivant. Well I'm abstinent. I say abstinent because it's
- 50:35Speaker 2: more so like if I'm in a relationship yet. But
- 50:37Speaker 2: I don't want to sleep with nobody. I don't want
- 50:40Speaker 2: nothing like I'm cool. I feel like it's just too
- 50:44Speaker 2: much on the heart. I love too hard, it comes
- 50:46Speaker 2: with too much. And you know, I'm good to my
- 50:49Speaker 2: person when I'm with them, and my last heartbreaks, I
- 50:52Speaker 2: was like, you know what y'all got? It actually y'all
- 50:56Speaker 2: got it.
- 50:57Speaker 1: The last heartbreak divorce. M you were dating somebody in
- 51:02Speaker 1: the industry, Nope, No, and he broke your heart.
- 51:07Speaker 2: Well, he had. He was dealing with some personal stuff
- 51:13Speaker 2: with like court and stuff, so it kind of just
- 51:16Speaker 2: made us have to separate because of that. He was
- 51:20Speaker 2: a cool dude, but just yeah, for me, I'm just like,
- 51:25Speaker 2: it just comes with too much. But the last situation
- 51:29Speaker 2: with my child's father was a big one, and for me,
- 51:32Speaker 2: I'm just like, I don't know. When I started focusing
- 51:34Speaker 2: on me and God and my child. I feel like
- 51:37Speaker 2: a lot of blessings came my way. This is like
- 51:39Speaker 2: the busiest I've ever been. If it's not an interview,
- 51:42Speaker 2: it's a movie, it's a reality show, it's a commercial,
- 51:44Speaker 2: it's a like we want you. Like I'm just getting
- 51:47Speaker 2: calls every day, and I'm really thankful because I feel
- 51:51Speaker 2: like I'm just focused on God and my child and
- 51:54Speaker 2: that and myself and my mom if my mom needs me,
- 51:57Speaker 2: of course, because my mom's in La. But when you
- 52:02Speaker 2: put when I put my energy into like a man,
- 52:05Speaker 2: like I really put my energy into the man. So
- 52:08Speaker 2: it's like I'm in it, you know, babe? What's up?
- 52:11Speaker 2: I want to talk. I want to make sure you're good.
- 52:13Speaker 2: I'm considering their feelings, like you know, I'm telling I'm
- 52:17Speaker 2: in the interview with maccallyer read back. I'm constantly like
- 52:19Speaker 2: making sure that okay. And it just seems like it's
- 52:21Speaker 2: just still you know, always like something, and it takes
- 52:25Speaker 2: me off. I remember I had a really big audition
- 52:28Speaker 2: for a big TV show and they already wanted me,
- 52:32Speaker 2: like they were like we it was I believe it's
- 52:35Speaker 2: like a series, and they were like, we already want you.
- 52:39Speaker 2: And I was down in the dumps and really really depressed,
- 52:42Speaker 2: and I literally bombed my audition and I didn't get it,
- 52:50Speaker 2: and I wasn't focused because I was focused on a
- 52:52Speaker 2: man who I was sad about that day, and I
- 52:54Speaker 2: was in my feelings and I just couldn't get it
- 52:57Speaker 2: right for the video for the audition tape, and I
- 53:01Speaker 2: was so sad because we had just argued and I
- 53:03Speaker 2: was just like, well, I just feel like he feels
- 53:05Speaker 2: like and why and I don't understand and this is that,
- 53:08Speaker 2: and like complaining the crime to my homegirl, my best friend,
- 53:12Speaker 2: and it came time to do that, and I just
- 53:13Speaker 2: could not concentrate and they picked somebody else and I
- 53:17Speaker 2: was just like devastated. And this is before the last
- 53:21Speaker 2: three films I did, so now that would have been four.
- 53:24Speaker 2: And it's fine because you win some, you lose some cool,
- 53:26Speaker 2: but I feel like it was my fault because I
- 53:28Speaker 2: wasn't locked in and men are distractions.
- 53:33Speaker 1: The wrong ones are are you and A one's mother?
- 53:44Speaker 1: Paym a y'all? Okay? What's our relationship? Like today?
- 53:47Speaker 2: We're cool? She called me my sister in law just
- 53:50Speaker 2: passed away, so I was devastating. She is his brother's
- 53:56Speaker 2: wife and our kids are blood cousins. So we were
- 53:59Speaker 2: like really really really close. We had like a little
- 54:02Speaker 2: beef on the show, but in reality, after that we
- 54:05Speaker 2: got like actually real close, like sisters close. She became
- 54:09Speaker 2: like that sister I was talking about, like talking on
- 54:11Speaker 2: the phone all the time. You know. Her and his
- 54:14Speaker 2: brother's brother h ended up like breaking up too, so
- 54:19Speaker 2: we were like, you know, getting each other through that,
- 54:21Speaker 2: and we got like really close, and then she was
- 54:23Speaker 2: doing good and then she passed like two weeks ago,
- 54:26Speaker 2: so that was like really really really hard for me.
- 54:28Speaker 2: And then Pam called me recently and we were talking
- 54:33Speaker 2: about her, and she sent me some video and we
- 54:35Speaker 2: were talking about ocean and stuff. So we're cool, We're
- 54:38Speaker 2: all right.
- 54:38Speaker 1: Okay, I hear that. Obviously one of the biggest things
- 54:42Speaker 1: that happened recently is this.
- 54:46Speaker 2: What do you want to talk about?
- 54:47Speaker 1: That confrontation with Naturally none? So but I saw that.
- 54:53Speaker 1: I'm so confused. So you're at dinner with your mom
- 54:59Speaker 1: and and I didn't know you and Natalie none had beef.
- 55:03Speaker 1: But and I won't just set the record straight on
- 55:06Speaker 1: this one. So it appears that you were enlisted to
- 55:12Speaker 1: write a song for Lemmy who's the owner of Zoos,
- 55:17Speaker 1: and Natalie, and then something went awrye And then all
- 55:22Speaker 1: we know is we see footage of Natalie confronting you,
- 55:28Speaker 1: and then you said, let me show y'all the whole footage,
- 55:30Speaker 1: and we saw you cussing them, like, what is happening
- 55:35Speaker 1: between you and Natalie nune Clerica.
- 55:38Speaker 2: This child Lord. First of all, it wasn't Lemmy that
- 55:41Speaker 2: I was writing the song for. Natalie has been doing
- 55:47Speaker 2: her show and she called me. My manager Prince was
- 55:51Speaker 2: sitting right there. She was actually on speakerphone, and she's like, Hey,
- 55:55Speaker 2: I'm in Atlanta and I want to get in the
- 55:56Speaker 2: studio with you. Can we please, just like, you know,
- 55:58Speaker 2: do a song for this whatever. And my manager was like, Yo,
- 56:01Speaker 2: that would be dope. Wh I don't maybe since she's
- 56:04Speaker 2: like kind of just getting into the rap game, you
- 56:07Speaker 2: put her on one of your songs. And I'm like, oh,
- 56:09Speaker 2: I had this dope up tempo record I could put
- 56:12Speaker 2: her cool. And she was like, let's just go to
- 56:16Speaker 2: the studio figure it out. She's like, do you have
- 56:17Speaker 2: a studio though, Like, I'm just here, I don't know
- 56:19Speaker 2: where to go. I'm like, let me make a call.
- 56:21Speaker 2: I got us boom book the studio. You know, when
- 56:24Speaker 2: you book a studio, you have to have the studio,
- 56:26Speaker 2: the engineer, everything set up and pay for it whatever.
- 56:30Speaker 2: I didn't ask her for nothing. I'm like, I got it.
- 56:32Speaker 2: I booked the studio. We have plenty footage of that.
- 56:36Speaker 2: And she was like, actually, I want you on this song.
- 56:41Speaker 2: So it was now her song she wanted me on.
- 56:44Speaker 2: So she played it for me and it was an
- 56:45Speaker 2: open verse, so me and one of my writers sat
- 56:47Speaker 2: and wrote my verse. She's like, I want you to rap.
- 56:50Speaker 2: I actually can rap rap. I just don't really write rap.
- 56:54Speaker 2: Like if I do a rap, I have to like
- 56:55Speaker 2: co write it with somebody as far as like rapping
- 56:58Speaker 2: because my thing is singing. So I'm like, bet, I'll
- 57:01Speaker 2: do it. So I got on did my little verse whatever.
- 57:03Speaker 2: She was like, I love it. Oh my god. We
- 57:04Speaker 2: were like all excited, let's go. I get a phone
- 57:07Speaker 2: call a few days later that she wants or maybe
- 57:11Speaker 2: it's the next day. First of all, she said, let's
- 57:14Speaker 2: shoot a video for this. She's like, I'm only in
- 57:16Speaker 2: Atlanta for a little time. Now, do you know somebody
- 57:18Speaker 2: that can do our video? I'm like, yep, I got somebody,
- 57:20Speaker 2: super dope. I pick up the phone. I call the dude,
- 57:23Speaker 2: the director. I'm like hey. My manager's like, literally you
- 57:27Speaker 2: put this whole play together, and so I'm like yes,
- 57:30Speaker 2: I'm like hey, can you shoot the video? He's like
- 57:32Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm real busy whin. I was like
- 57:34Speaker 2: it's finale none and me like, come on, just do
- 57:36Speaker 2: me show me this love. He's like, I got you.
- 57:39Speaker 1: Now.
- 57:39Speaker 2: I get a call from Lemmy. Lemme calls me and
- 57:41Speaker 2: was like, if y'all think y'all putting that record out
- 57:42Speaker 2: without me, that's a hit. I want to in on it.
- 57:44Speaker 2: And I'm like what he's like, yeah, I want to
- 57:46Speaker 2: get on it too. Da da da da. So Natalie
- 57:48Speaker 2: side calls me and she's like, I don't want him
- 57:51Speaker 2: on the record. He won't let me do my own thing.
- 57:52Speaker 2: It's so annoying. I already owe him my life with
- 57:55Speaker 2: Daddy's and I'm just trying to like the life b
- 57:58Speaker 2: branch out and do like my own thing. And I'm like, well, girl,
- 58:01Speaker 2: I don't know what you want me to tell him. He's
- 58:03Speaker 2: calling me saying he wants in on the record. Y'all
- 58:05Speaker 2: gotta figure that out. So she's like, well, I don't know,
- 58:07Speaker 2: and she was like super upset. So I'm like, let
- 58:09Speaker 2: him get on the record. I told her that I
- 58:12Speaker 2: was just so messy, So he I send. I booked
- 58:16Speaker 2: the studio again. Now this is day now done, got
- 58:18Speaker 2: the videographer for us video shoot setup. I don't got
- 58:24Speaker 2: the studio time. Now here's day two of the studio time.
- 58:27Speaker 2: I brought writers in and everything. So that was for
- 58:29Speaker 2: my part. Now for his part, I sent over writers
- 58:31Speaker 2: to write his whole verse. So me and her was
- 58:33Speaker 2: over there shooting the video while they're in the studio
- 58:35Speaker 2: doing the writing. Boom, we got it all done. Bet. Now,
- 58:40Speaker 2: Limmy's like, can you get the record mix? I'm like,
- 58:43Speaker 2: all right, you know what, bet So, I call some mixers,
- 58:47Speaker 2: I get a mixed. We keep playing with the mix,
- 58:48Speaker 2: which costs every time. We did like five mixes to
- 58:51Speaker 2: get it right. I paid for the mixes every time.
- 58:55Speaker 2: Mind you, they're supposed to be multime, multime, mulltime, all
- 58:58Speaker 2: time million. No, no, you know what is the Lemmy
- 59:00Speaker 2: supposed to be a billionaire, right, So I'm like, oh,
- 59:03Speaker 2: now I'm paying okay, bet, I paid for it, No
- 59:05Speaker 2: big deal. And so then we get a call. Now
- 59:10Speaker 2: he starts acting a little weird. Now I get a
- 59:11Speaker 2: call and it's like, well, look, I think we might
- 59:14Speaker 2: just go a different direction. Lemmy wants it to be
- 59:17Speaker 2: just me and him. He doesn't want you on the
- 59:19Speaker 2: song anymore. Blah blah blah blah blah. He feels like
- 59:22Speaker 2: it should just be a Zeus thing. I'm like, okay,
- 59:25Speaker 2: that's cool. So at this point, just run me my
- 59:28Speaker 2: money for everything I paid for, Like what I paid
- 59:33Speaker 2: for two studio sessions. I paid for the engineer both times.
- 59:36Speaker 2: I paid to get the record mixed. I got writers
- 59:39Speaker 2: to come in and write Lemmy's verse for him that
- 59:40Speaker 2: he was in love with his initial verse, and I'm like,
- 59:44Speaker 2: so y'all gotta like, y'all gotta cut me a check.
- 59:46Speaker 2: So he had agreed to cut me a check. Then
- 59:49Speaker 2: he renegged on that. Then they did something super slimy
- 59:52Speaker 2: and reached out to only one of the writers who
- 59:55Speaker 2: was there for Lemmy's verse, because it was like maybe
- 59:58Speaker 2: four writers. One of the guys and was like, we're
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: just gonna say you wrote it by yourself, and we'll
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: pay you some money so we can just basically get
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: Lyric up out of here and do this ourselves. And
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: I'm like, not only did I put this whole play together,
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: y'all go try to boot me out and then not
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: pay me? Are you crazy? So I went live and
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: was talking about it. Well, someone asked them the life
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: I was asked, and I like, we're sitting here doing
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: an interview. I was in an interview with Shirley and
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: she asked, and I told her the same story I'm
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: telling you, and she's like, you're talking about me and
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: my child. Show me one time I've ever said anything
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: about your child, Like, what does she have to do
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: with it? Why would I be talking about your kid?
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: I don't even do that, So I'm like what I
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: said was the truth, which is y'alln't credit me, y'all
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: didn't give me my money, y'all didn't pay me for
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: my services. Like cool, take me off the record still
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: giving me my credit, and make sure you take care
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: of my writers, make sure they're all paid, and make
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: sure it says written by and everybody's name is on there,
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: because that's how they'll get paid in the future. They
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: don't want to credit the other writers, didn't want to
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: pay the other writers. They didn't want to pay me
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: for my services. So we fell out over that, and
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: I'm sitting there eating with my mom and the bitch
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: is like, comes up to me in a friendly if
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: you really watch the video, she didn't come up to
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: me threatening. She came up to me and was like Hilerica.
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: She started off all high pitched with her fake self,
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: like I'm just you know, I'm not even mad about
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: the record. I'm not even mad about the song. What
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: I was upset about was what you said about my family.
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: So I'm letting her talk cause she's comes she doesn't
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: come like threatening at all, So I'm just listening. But
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: if you look at me. When she walked up, I
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: said what's up? Like I was not like, oh hey,
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: like I'm happy to see you. I'm like, what's up?
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: And my mom's just sitting there eating her food and
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: my dog, her dog just had surgery in her mouth,
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: so my mom has like a plastic to go plate,
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: let's be clear, and she's chewing her food for her
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: because she can't chew at the time. So I'm literally like, okay,
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: get to it, like I'm waiting for. She's supposed to
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: be so mad at because you did something to me.
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: I thought she was gonna come to my table and
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: apologize because your dad, that's wrong. So instead she's just like, well,
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: and you know, and I was mad about this and
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: I wasn't mad, and I guess she felt like at
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: the end, her little drop the mic thing was like
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: you know, and keep my family's name out of your
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: mouth something some something, and she walks off. What pissed
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: me off is that she's talking. There's a security, a girl,
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: a really tall guy, and I think it might've been
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: one of the zoos securities. I don't know. So I'm like,
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: did you just come to my table and try to
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: act like you did something because you had like a crew.
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: It's me and my mother, Like me and my mom,
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: not me my mom and a guy. Me and my
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: mom in a security me and my mom and my
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: homegirl who's ready to fight. I'm not gonna let my
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: mom ever fight ever. So she waits till she gets
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: to the door and then yells out bitch and keeps walking.
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: Oh cuss on the shell. Sorry, And so I slid
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: and a lot of the viewers, if you go the
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: comments that they saw it, like I kind of like
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: went like this while she was talking to get out
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: of my chair. So when they cut the video off,
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: I went out of my chair and followed her outside.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: She kept walking and then the gay dude gets in
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: front of my face that she brought to the table,
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: And what I thought was wild is he like took
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: over her fight, call me all out of my name,
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: like was spitting at me and my mom. I mean
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: the disrespect was like unbelievable from him, even more than
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: forget that her for that matter. Like at that minute,
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: it was just like I was like, so I went
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: off on him. Then the girl was and I was like,
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: you need to fucking move. I'm not talking to you,
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: I don't even know you. This is not about you.
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: This is about her. You all in my fock, like
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: who the fuck are you? And so she like she
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: did move and he's like, well, I don't care, and
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: I mean it in this you know, he's trying so
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: hard to be a baddie, and it's like, baby, like,
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: I don't even fucking know you. This is not your father,
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: this is not your fight. This is between me and her,
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: and she says, so my mom comes outside, and my
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: mom's trying to make sure I didn't go outside and
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: get in a fight with anybody with her. So then
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: he gets on my mother's face. So now I'm cussing
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: him out. I didn't turn to a whole separate argument.
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: Now I'm arguing with him. So I was mad when
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: you put the video up because I'm like, bitch, show
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: the whole video how it follows you outside and you
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: kept going. So that is the story. I wanted my
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: credit And if you take me off, you don't use
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: my credit, credit my writers and pay me my money
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: for my services, it's still giving run the back. That's it, period.
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: And then you go on Cam Newton like keep my
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: name out of your mouth, you're in love with me,
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: like it's official. Literally, it's official. She literally was in
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: Cam Newton's interview like and lyric and lyric, it's irrelevant, Lyrica, Baby,
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: I'm so irrelevant that you couldn't keep my name out
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: of your mouth, like, let's clock it.
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: Did you ever get your money back? No?
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: And the song was a flop and it didn't even
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: do nothing. So there it is. That's what you get
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: because God don't like ugly. You didn't go nowhere but
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: to hell.
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: Let's clopped.
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: Have you heard it? Okay, I'm just saying.
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: I'll play. Kirk Franklin.
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: Says, you know, let God, you know, handle your venges
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: and get your revenge and things like that. So I'm
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: not even worried about it. It's cool. And if she
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: want to bite me, it's up to Like, that's fine too,
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: But you're not gonna have like, it's not gonna be
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: unfair like it was giving jump me. You're not gonna
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: jump me. No, it's one on one that's different.
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: Were you surprised like us that it was that serious?
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: Like well, because as you're eating your not that it's funny.
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: But look, listen, I don't what It's like to like
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: be at a restaurant and you're literally chill it with
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: your babo, you know what I'm saying, And.
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: Then to have the guy like sneak recording me. I'm like,
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: I'm eating freaking uh dumplings and salad like we're on
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: some like health kicks.
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: Very healthy, Yeah, I was.
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: Like, very healthy, like eating our salads. I'm like, girl,
- 1:05:53Speaker 2: maybe you should go spend some quality time with your
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: mother and your child and not worry about what we're doing.
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: And that's when I say something about child, spend time
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: with your child. You sitting here worried about me and
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: what I'm doing. I'm out here when my mother doing
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: family time. I wouldn't even approach somebody with their mom.
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: It's just disrespectful, Like I don't care what I felt
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: about the girl like she's eating with her mom, Like
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: I'll wait until you know I see her, or I'll
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: ask her can we step outside? She should have just
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: been like, yo, can I talk to you for a
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: second and pulled me away, like are you gonna try
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: to confront me? And then why is there a crew
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: of y'all? Like that's wild?
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: So do you think she did that for the absolutely viality,
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: and it went crazy.
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: All over all the blogs. That's what she wanted, I
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: guess so, because what was the reason for you to
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: post it? So I was just I was so mad
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: after people I turned on my phone. I was getting
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: all these calls like, oh my gosh, I didn't know
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: because my phone died. I was so wrapped in, like
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: I said, doing my thing family time. You know, was
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: going to go get my son. I didn't let my
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: phone die, enjoying my life. I turned my phone back.
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a minute. I'm like, girl, you're not
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: gonna show that I got about this chair came outside. Girl,
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: don't play with me like you know. And again I
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: am like the bear you have to poke, I'd be chilling.
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: I don't bother nobody, but you come bothering me with
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: let's go whatever smoke that comes with. Because I don't
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: bother nobody. You don't hardly see me in the blogs
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: for drama.
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. That's all. That's why we're all shot. Like, wait,
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: what's it happened to this? Gude?
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: I'm not that girl. I'm not a fighter. I'm not
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: that girl. I am the talented girl. I want to
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: get money. I'm a girl's girl. I love girls, pretty girls,
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: beautiful girl. Let's have fun, Let's have a good time.
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: I'm that girl.
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: So well, you are that girl, and you have a
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: lot going on, so let us know, babe, like all
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: the things you're working on so that the rain drops
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: and your fans and everybody can support you.
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Well. I just a movie that I'm
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: in featured in just dropped called Unrequited and that's on
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: two B and that was February twentieth, so recently. And
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: I have just finished a movie, wrapped a movie called
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: Death of a Mean Girl. And two I will keep
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: y'all posted on what network that is because they are
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that might be Netflix or
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: HBO or something. Getting that part together, yes, and uh,
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: and then I just did another film. So but as
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: far as like the networks and stuff, I can't say
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: at this very moment for either one. But yeah, movies
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: and getting ready to drop a project. I'm working on
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: my music right now. My manager is in there. We're
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: like leaving from here to go to the studio because
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: we got to put everything in its order and let's go.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: You're doing so good. And one thing I love about
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: you you you you be off the way, out the way,
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: you know, no like you listen when when love and
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: Hip hop Hollywood was over, you weren't trying to be everywhere,
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: you know, And I think there's that says a lot
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: about you.
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: No, I appreciate that because that's been like the word
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: I've been hearing. They were like, yo lyric and you
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: know what, shout out to people who lyric aricas. Because
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: people were in the comments on that drama Tippy Soma.
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: I did see a lot of comments because I was
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: reading them situation. I was scrolling because I was like,
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: wait a minute, and a lot of people were saying that,
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: like you be out the way, and I do. I'm
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: mind my business. I go pick my son up for school.
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: I'd be at home cooking, doing my little TikTok's chilling
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: like I am a very like shoot and I will
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: hang out by myself. But I have my friends, of course,
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: but I don't be like I don't bother nobody. I'll
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: be chilling, but you come bothering me, like I will
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: give it back to you.
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: Oh we no, babe, we've seen it. We saw the receipts. Okay,
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: so y'all give it up for Larica. Thank you, babe,
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: thank you for having Reality with the King is executive
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: produced by me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: a partnership with the Lack of Effect Network. You can
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: also find us on my YouTube channel at b Carlos
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