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52. Who We Are ( Bear, Otter, and the Kid Chronicles 2/4) · The Book-Watchers

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  Ms results. Hi, welcome the book watchers, where we're just a couple
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  of faggots. Today, I'm obviously joined with the the biggest tallest giant,
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  the fag. I don't know why, Like, wait, people don't like
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  the word fact, I don't, don't, you know, Hi, this
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  is Jacob's here too. If y'all don't like the word fag, I'm sorry,
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  but I don't care about the connotation with that word. It's it's take
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  back the word get back. Personally, Yeah, I agree. I there
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  was a point where I didn't like when people called me it, just because
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  like that was when I was still in the closet and I just didn't really
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  want people to like have put that kind of attention on me. But now
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  I don't care because like for me, I just think, like, okay,
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  it used to it still kind of is a word of hate. But
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  at the same time, I'm like, if I'm ever called a fag,
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  because I was called a fag in like a very bigoted way at one point,
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  I just I just I don't even let it bother me anymore. I'm
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  I just looked back. I look him in the ad. I'm like,
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  yeah, and is the problem with that exactly the fact, that's not okay
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  with it. But like in my friend group, most of my friends don't
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  give a ship, so we just call each other fags left and right.
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  Yeah, the only people I usually call fags are well you and uh TIFFs
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  sometimes and of course Dylan because you know you got put Dylan in his place.
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  Damn. Oh wait, I'm sorry, No, we call him a
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  brat. The brat, I'm kidding. He should probably cut that out if
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  you, if you, it's gonna be so bad. We should catch up
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  again. Serious, shut the fuck up. Sorry, like you're talking up.
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  She's like, I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch that. I'm like,
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  bitch, you're talking ship. You talking ship too, talk ship,
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  Get hit high, Welcome book watchers, thank you down below. Well say
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  well, give all links other podcast shows and ship the pip pops your bag.
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  You know the deal? Yeah, YouTube channel friends, Yeah exactly.
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  Like like tell a friend, yeah cool, tell your tell your whole family,
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  and if you have, if you come from a very conservative family,
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  especially tell them just so you can piss them off and tell them that this
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  is an LGBTQ plus type of podcast. Just let them go in blind hell.
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  Yeah, all right. I mean they may like it at first,
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  because I remember early on, we weren't exactly we weren't really like really help
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  pushing in the bagotry. Yeah, but now it's just shot on all over
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  the places. It's on the walls, it's on the ceiling, Jesus anyway,
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  everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, you en up talking
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  about the gay ship instead, Let's talk about the gay ship. I let's
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  say we're gonna be talking about gay shit today. Because we're gonna be talking
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  about the We're gonna be talking about even gayer ship. So I'm sorry,
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  I almost forgot what we were doing because it's been for us. It's been
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  like a couple it's been like almost two weeks since we recorded our last episode.
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  Last episode we recorded book one of the of Bear Otter and the Kid
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  Chronicles. First book is the same, the same name. Now we're gonna
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  be we're gonna be reviewing the next book on the series called Who we Are.
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  Yay, so uh, just some like just general facts about who we
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  are. This book is the direct sequel of Bear Otter and the Kid.
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  Is takes place over period of six months after the last so it starts pretty
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  much where the last book left off and now and then it takes place over
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  a period of like about six months or so. There's a lot that happens
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  in this book. We see more growth with the main characters Derek McKenna aka
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  Bear, Oliver Thompson A. K Otter, and Tyson McKenna aka the Kid,
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  as well as their nice little their little close knit group of friends and
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  family and basically make up this whole little found family dynamic. Just like the
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  first book, it is very wholesome. It deals with a lot of a
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  lot of trauma. I just want to put this out there. There aren't
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  any elements when I say trauma. It's just more like it's more directly concerned
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  with issues of abandonment, anxiety, depression, and as well as resentment and
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  bitterness as well. Because in this book, you know, just so we
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  can like just cut straight to the point, we're gonna go ahead. Let's
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  go ahead and just get right into the story. So where the last book
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  left off, Bear in Otter reconnected. They had broken up for just a
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  short period of time because Bear was threatened by his mom, the very woman
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  who abandoned him in the first place. She found out about she had somehow
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  found out about his relationship with Otter, and she threatened to take custody of
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  the kid back if Bear didn't give into her demands by breaking up with him,
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  By breaking up with Otter and not had anything to do with any kind
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  of gay romantic relationship ever again, and Bear, fearfull of the of his
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  little brother being taken away from him, especially by his mother who was very
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  neglectful and alcoholic and who abandoned them, he acquiesced, and he ended up
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  ending his relationship with Otter for a short period of time before he finally and
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  very dramatically went back got back together with Otter. They reconciled, he explains
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  to Otter what happened. Otter was pissed, understandably, but he was actually
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  if Bear had it made the decision to like to get back together with Otter,
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  Otter was actually prepared to fight for Bear like oo if only like the
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  author wrote it to where like we see how Otter fights for Bear. I'm
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  pretty sure this story would have been a lot juicier, But it turned out
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  the way the events turned out the way they did, and now here we
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  are. The last book ended with Bear and Otter moving in together. Otter
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  actually bought a house for Bear, if you can believe that, And it
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  was just all it was just so sweet. And now we're this so book
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  two who we Are picks up where that left off. Bear and the kid,
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  with the help of their family, they begin they completely move out of
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  that shitty little apartment they've been living in the most of their lives. They
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  end up sending giving away all of their mother's belongings that she left behind to
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  goodwill because for the over the past three years, all of her stuff had
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  been left behind, had been locked away in her room. They hadn't gone
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  in They never once went in there for any reason because there's just, you
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  know, a lot of negative memories associated with that room, too much association
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  with their mom. Now that they're moving out and into a new house,
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  they decide, all right, you're out, toss that ships to the curb,
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  and they move into the Green their house they which they so eloquently call
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  the green Monstrosity mm hmm, because it is paint. Because the house is
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  painted a horrendous shade of greed. Like I can't I'm trying. I'm having
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  a hard time imagining this color. But I'm pretty sure like from what I
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  believe, TI describes it as like some sort of like something like radioactive monster
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  snot but yeah. But oddly enough, despite the fact that they hate the
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  color of the house, they never repaint it. They they at one once
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  they move in. They don't even bother repainting it. They just leave it
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  like that, and it just kind of has its own charm. The color
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  of the house gives it that sort of charm. The house like represents a
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  new beginning for the for this new family, for this family, because it's
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  marks the start of Bear in Otter's full relationship together. They're no longer hiding
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  the relationship from their friends and family. They're completely out about it. There
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  was a moment where there's a moment in this book where they're in Otter,
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  do you have to tell the news to their to Otter's parents about the relationship,
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  because in the last book, Otter's parents were not really around. They
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  were on this extended vacation and now they had come back. And think about
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  Otter's parents is that they're not bad people. However, they kind of got
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  on my shit list for this scene. And I'm pretty sure any other person
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  who read this book probably like doesn't really have that much of a good opinion
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  about them, despite like later on, how much character development they have.
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  Later so, when Otter and Bear tell his parents, that tell Otter's parents
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  that they're in a relationship together, his parents don't really take it very well.
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  While they accept it, the reaction is not what they would have expected.
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  And Otter has already felt some resentment towards his parents because when he came
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  out originally, like I believe it came out like right when he graduated high
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  school pretty early on, his parents didn't really take it so well. It's
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  not like they were being homophobic. It was just more of like, I
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  don't want to say it was like concerned, but it's just more of like
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  they weren't exactly happy about it. And later on they find out they find
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  out later that their their parents' reaction is really from a negative experience because Otter
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  had an uncle who was gay, but unfortunately he was a gay man in
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  the eighties and the nineties during the AIDS epidemic, and unfortunately his uncle contracted
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  Yeah, his uncle contracted eight AIDS and died from due to complications from it.
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  And his parents the thing is is that it was hard for them because
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  for Starters, they didn't know his uncle was gay, and when they found
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  out that he got AIDS, it basically from it was they were able to
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  put two and two together, like, oh shit, so you mean you
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  were gay and you got and you got sick from it, and like I
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  guess like for them, it was just there that their bad reaction was more
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  of concern for Otter's safety because you know, I mean, I'm sure for
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  a lot of people, the AIDS epidemic was really traumatizing because there's so many
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  people getting it. It affected it didn't just affect the gay community. But
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  the thing is, unfortunately the gay community was the one that was highlighted and
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  targeted because of it. But they were like the central highlight of the aid
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  of the AIDS epidemic. So and it doesn't help that the that AIDS is
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  considered the gay buyers too. Yeah, So that is the reasoning. And
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  although and then later on Bear and Otter were able to work it out with
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  his parents with Otter's parents and reconcile, but it's not really and it doesn't
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  really cause any issues for them in the future. It's kind of hilarious how
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  they came out to his parents because the thing is Bear is a is a
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  stupidly lightweight when it comes to alcohol. You give him like one, you
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  give him like one glass of wine, and suddenly he's like, like he
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  he can't. So Bear is neurotic. I think I've said that in the
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  last it's very neurotic. I think I said that in the last episode.
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  I think he gets pretty spassy, and he has yeah, and he tends
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  to get like his mind tends to like when he's panicking, he tends his
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  mind tends to go off on this whole tangent and he begins to like have
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  these weird fantasies of like completely unrealistic scenarios. I think those are called intrusive
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  thought, like intrusive thoughts, and he has a hard time keeping those intrusive
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  thoughts to himself. So he'll often like blurt out random things and people look
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  at him like, Okay, where did okay, in what scenario did this?
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  Like, so, where did you get that from? Out of this
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  whole thing that's upsetting you? Where did you how did you come to that
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  conclusion? Like but so basically, so whenever Bear drinks that that dials up
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  from ten to twenty, and so like since like he was he had,
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  like he already had like a couple of glasses of wine, and Otter was
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  like encouraging him, like all right, baby, you ready rate it's all
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  them. Bear started freaking out, and he ended up like blurting out like
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  not just like the fact that he and Otter are in a relationship to Otter's
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  parents, but like the whole story, like from like what happened to like
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  what happened with the fact that technically Bear had an emotional affair with Otter while
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  he was still with Anna, but also the fact that Anna and Creed are
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  together, and that Bear and Otter are together. And then they broke up
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  for a bit because because Bear's mom came back and threatened him if he didn't
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  break up with Otter, she'd take the kid. And then they got back
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  together and now they lived together, and Otter bought the house for Bear and
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  now they're basically living there happily ever after. So it just all came spilling
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  out in one long tangent, and it's hilarious, and this happens multiple times
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  throughout this entire series. It's hysterical in fact, like there are several characters
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  who are very much aware of of what happens. When Bear is drinking and
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  he has tea to spill, who loose slips so like and it just slips
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  out like ty has done this to him, his the kid has done this
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  to him and not going to spoil it for you. But in the next
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  book a friend of the kids does this to him and it's hilarious. But
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  moving on from that, Bear is also beginning to go back to college because
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  after his mom abandoned him and his brother, Bear had to quit school,
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  had to give up his dream of going to college to become a to become
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  writer to take care of his brother. But now that he and Otter are
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  in a committed relationship together, Otter has Otter offered to support Bear while he's
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  going back to school. In fact, Otter and all of Bear's friends,
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  including Creed and Anna, basically had to pin Bear down and force him to
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  sign up for school again, like you're not giving up, Like you're going
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  back to school and whether you like it or not, He's like, but
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  no, I gotta take care of the kid, I'm like, and Otter
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  is like, I'm here, I can help you take care of him and
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  I can help you pay for school, So you're going to school, and
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  a discussion, so bears now begin. Bear begins going to school to his
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  local community college to be for creative writing, and at the beginning of the
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  book, it actually starts off with him reading some like terrible. At first
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  I thought this was like some sort of fan fiction, but it was an
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  attempt at Bear's fantasy writing and it was terrible, and both the kid and
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  Otter tell him. So we do see a few times. So we do
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  see if you've scenes throughout the book where he goes to school and Anna is
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  also taking classes at the same school, so it's not like he's by himself
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  and he does it's not like he knows he doesn't know anybody there. The
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  thing is is that when he starts, when he goes to his first class,
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  he immediately meets this guy who takes an interest in Bear, and Bear
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  is like super awkward and doesn't know how to tell this is not it doesn't
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  really know how to tell this guy, I'm gonna I have a boyfriend,
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  so could you not flirt with me? And even like with Bear's gentle like
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  admonishments, the guy's not taking the hint until Anna shows up and chases him
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  away. Now this guy like kind of pops up ship. What was his
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  name? I don't want to just be calling him this guy? Where's the
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  table contents? Sorry, now you're fine, please this kid awkward dinner where
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  Bear meets two very different people. It's relia Okay, here I think this
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  is it? Start school? Dun dun dun dun dun d d d d
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  No No, no, no no, mhm h m hm fuck h uh
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  did come on? What is say? See? I'll be totally honest with
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  this character I'm trying to whose name I'm trying to look up is so completely
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  unimportant to me that I don't really care to remember his name. Oh and
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  no who because like he only appears in this book and like a couple of
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  times, and really, uh like his only let's see, his only real
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  purpose in this story is too like just kind of throw a monkey wrench into
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  Bear and Otter's relationship. Because while they don't really have a fight over this
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  guy, like Otter does find out and while he's not an extremely jealous kind
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  of character, he does get a little protect he does get overprotective of Bear,
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  and they do have those moments where it's just like, like he does
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  have this moment of unsurety where Otter is like, are you like, I
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  mean, you've never had you don't have much experience with you know, relationships,
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  and you know, with this side of you, how do I know
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  You're not? Like? Are you ever gonna want to like experiment with other
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  people? Maybe figure out other relationships, see other people, want to see
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  other people besides me? And you know, Bear has to reassure him that
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  no, I don't really want to see other people just you, and Otter
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  pretty much tells him the same thing. Oh, let's see, let's see,
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  let's see. What's it. What is his name? Oh, that's
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  his name, Isaiah hucks h Isaiah. So when Bear starts school, he's
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  one of his first encounter. He has a bit of an encounter with this
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  guy named Isaiah who comes on very strong to him because he finds Bear very
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  attractive, and Bear like barely is really able to shoot this guy away before
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  Anna shows up and kicks him to the curb. And the thing is is
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  that it's not just Otter that show showcases a little bit of jealousy when it
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  when it comes to people like throwing practically throwing themselves at Bear, because that
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  has been several times throughout the series, and it's kind of cute just seeing
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  the two of them get jealous of each other, just like, what you
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  like him? No, what you like him? No? Like, it's
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  kind of cute. I mean some some couples deal with it more, some
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  couples don't. But it's just like, it's not really a big issue for
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  either Otter or Bear. Thing is, uh, Aside from Bear starting school
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  again, uh, this story is also focused on a decision that Bear has
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  made besides going through with college, and that is finally legally getting full custody
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  of Tie, his brother. Yeah, because when his mom, when his
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  mom just just straight up dipped on him, she gave him something. She
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  left papers for him to sign that gave him power of attorney quote unquote,
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  which was sketchy as fuck and I don't think would actually have held up in
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  court either way. I mean, it was enough to give Bear at least
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  allow Bear to make sure that Tye has everything he needs, like register him
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  from school, take him to his doctor's appointments and dentists and whatever it.
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  But the thing is, it was not the actual legally binding a thing that
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  he needed to, you know, ensure that nobody can actually take Otter I'm
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  sorry, tie away from him. Right, it wasn't actual legal custody.
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  And when his mom showed up in the last book and threatened to take Tye
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  away, you know that was the that was the final nail in the coffin.
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  Like for Bear, his mom is completely dead to him, like he
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  does not want anything to do with her, and he doesn't want her to
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  be able to come back into his life again and threaten to take the kid
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  away. So with Otter's help, they actually seek out an attorney. And
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  this attorney she's really great. She is actually a character whose name I should
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  look like, actually should know because she is an amazing character. Let me
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  see here. Her name is in like this literal, except like her name
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  is actually in this one, like in one of these two. I fucking
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  know her name, is it? Okay? I think he is Georgia.
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  Oh wait, no, no, that's Georgia is actually uh Devin at this
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  part out, But Georgia is a is actually she is an agent for CPS,
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  but she's on their side, so yeah, when so I'll explain it
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  again just as this part up, but so Georgia. So when they finally
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  like make the petition to for Bear to take full custody of the kid,
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  part of the process is they need to be evaluated by CPS to make sure
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  that they have a stable home. And Georgia is the character is this is
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  the person that they send to evaluate them. And she's not and it is
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  scary, It is a little scary, not gonna lie, but she's actually
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  very helpful and she uh, she makes sure that Otter and Bear and the
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  kid have everything they need. Let me see, let me see, let
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  me see where Bear goes to war. Oh wait, never mind, h
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  monstrosity. M m m mm hmm. Okay, okay. Her name is
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  Erica, got it, Erica? So yeah, like I was saying,
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  they decide to get full custody of the kid, well Bear, because since
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  he is the kid's direct relative, he's the one that will be taking full
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  custody of him. They get an attorney. Her name is Erica. When
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  they first meet her, they explained their situation to her, the whole,
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  the whole his mom dipping the power of attorney thing, and how she came
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  back and threatened to take him back even though she had been gone for three
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  years without a word, and after hearing everything they had to say, Erica
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  agrees to take their case, and she said and she had, and she
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  informs them that she has a a that she's very confident that they will that
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  they will win this case, that Bear will be a or did full custody
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  of the kid because after explaining the circumstances, things are not going to work
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  out in their mother's favor. Because one thing I didn't really talk about in
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  the last book was that when Julie McKenna showed up and threatened to take the
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  kid back, take the kid away from bere Bear tried to call her bluff.
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  But she made up this whole spiel about how she could easily lie to
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  the court and say listen, like she could use her alcoholism and her substance
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  abuse as you know, as a weapon against them, saying like, well,
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  I left for my health to seek treatment and basically play this whole sob
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  story case right, and people would be more willing to And she implied that
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  people would be more willing to take her side because who are they could and
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  she employed and she basically just told him out right that people are more willing
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  to believe a struggling single mom over a gay older brother and oh I hate
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  that bitch. And but the thing is is that now that they spoke to
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  an actual attorney who knows the law and knows how the court system works,
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  after they explain their situation, Erica informs them like, yeah, no,
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  that's not gonna fly. Your mom does have substance abuse, so that does
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  work against her. And depending on what we find on her, if she
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  if she has no real like if there are no records of her seeking help
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  for her substance abuse, it's not gonna hold up in court. And also,
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  this power of attorney thing I'm not gonna lie is going to is actually
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  gonna work against both you and your mom, against your mom more but against
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  you too, because the thing is, this is not some This was not
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  handled properly or legally, but given the circumstances of this is all basically going
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  to go back on your mom. So even though the judge may be more
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  or less inclined to admonish you for this, there's nothing she can do about
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  it. There's nothing that judge can do about it. So what they can
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  do is grant you temporary custody and when, and what they're gonna do is,
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  first of all, they've got to make sure that you are fit to
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  be that you are a fit guardian for the kid. So they are so
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  CPS will be involved. They will be making regular checks, uh, and
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  they'll be making regular visits to your home to inspect it and make sure everything
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  is working out, that it is a safe and nurturing environment for Tyson.
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  And she won't and she even told them, I'm not gonna lie. It's
• 31:57
  gonna it's gonna feel very invasive because they're going to be observing you in every
• 32:06
  facet of your life just to ensure that, just to ensure that you are
• 32:10
  providing a safe and nurturing environment for your brother. All Right, it's gonna
• 32:16
  be tough. But from what I can tell, like after talking to you
• 32:21
  guys, you guys seem very well adjusted. You have a job, You're
• 32:24
  going to school Bear, so that is a good so that actually works in
• 32:29
  your favor. And you also have a very great support, great and loving
• 32:34
  support system. Because when went Bear and when Baron Otter went to talk to
• 32:39
  the attorney, they're basically their entire extended family came with the Creed and a
• 32:46
  missus pack when they all came to provide moral support, and it was kind
• 32:52
  of it was a little hysterical just the way like just like they're trying to
• 32:54
  have a serious meeting with the attorney, but there's all this banter going on
• 32:58
  in the background. It's really funny. And she tells them that plays very
• 33:07
  well in their favor, and then she drops this. She also tells them
• 33:10
  that ty will need to be uh will need to see a therapist because he
• 33:15
  needs to be evaluated meant for any any kind of long standing mental health disabilities,
• 33:25
  just to standard things because usually from what I understand, any kind of
• 33:30
  custody cases involving kids, the kids do have to go see a therapist,
• 33:34
  and the therapist needs to evaluate and make sure that the kid that the kid
• 33:37
  isn't suffering from any kind of abuse, trauma, or anything that relates back
• 33:43
  to the person trying to get the custody, but anything that goes back to
• 33:45
  the like a direct correlation of the person who's trying to get custody. So
• 33:51
  if you're trying to get custody of your kid and the kid is like having
• 33:53
  severe depression and anxiety just because of you, there's a good chance that could
• 33:59
  play it, that could work against you. Yeah, and especially in like
• 34:02
  Bear's case, since he is a since he's still very young and he's trying
• 34:08
  to take care of his younger brother, all right, they got to make
• 34:13
  sure that he is that he's more than capable of taking care of his younger
• 34:17
  brother. But they also need to make sure that the kid himself is thriving
• 34:24
  under his brother's guardianship. And then finally, the final bombshell that they drop
• 34:30
  on Bear, that she drops on Bear is that they will have to get
• 34:36
  a courier and they need to serve Julie McKenna with custody papers with a they
• 34:45
  need to subpoena her. So what's gonna happen is either she fights it and
• 34:52
  they take her to court to fight for Cussey over Tyson, or she could
• 34:55
  go ahead and sign her rights away right then and there. And Bear was
• 35:01
  not thrilled about that because he really does not want anything. He does not
• 35:05
  want to have any kind of confrontation with his mom, But after everything that
• 35:09
  she put him through and put Tie through, he's ready to fight for his
• 35:14
  brother, which I'm like, oh, good for you. I applaud you.
• 35:16
  Good for you. You know, it's an uncomfortable situation all around.
• 35:20
  But this is your brother, and you need to do this for your brother
• 35:22
  because when your brother, because when Ty found out that his mom threatened Bear
• 35:30
  and forced Bear to leave Otter, that actually really fought that really negatively affected
• 35:37
  Tie, because Ty really looks up to Otter. Otter is like is not
• 35:40
  only like another older brother to him, but he's like a father figure to
• 35:44
  him, just like Bear. All right, So having Otter in his life
• 35:47
  is a very good influence, all right. It helps him with his anxiety
• 35:52
  and his panic disorder, and it also helps him with other with his other
• 35:57
  issues, all right. I mean, don't get me wrong. Hi is
• 36:00
  a very well adjusted young man, and he is very smart. Bear often
• 36:05
  refers to him as eco terrorist and training because of how much he is,
• 36:09
  because of how much of a naturalist he is as well as he's and he
• 36:15
  often says that this kid will take over the world by the time he's sixteen,
• 36:20
  and the kid practically does. But so throughout the book, it does
• 36:24
  describe their struggles. It also describes their meetings with Georgia, the child Protective
• 36:31
  Services agent that is sent to evaluate their home. While they're being evaluated by
• 36:38
  Georgia, they do meet a young They do end up meeting a young boy
• 36:43
  that lives down the street from Otter and Bear. This boy's name is Dominic.
• 36:50
  Now I'm talking, I want to just like talk about Dominic for a
• 36:52
  second here, because he's actually will become a very important figure in the kid's
• 36:58
  life in the future. So Dominic is about fourteen fifteen years old when he's
• 37:06
  first introduced into the story, and basically he's a very introverted young man,
• 37:12
  and well, like all introverts, he got adopted by a extremely extroverted person,
• 37:19
  and that extremely extroverted person happened to be Tie, the kid. So
• 37:25
  Tie while playing down while playing outside of his house, he notices Dominic just
• 37:31
  wandering around and immediately befriends the kid. And now Tie considers this big fourteen
• 37:42
  year old kid as his new best friend. And it's it's very cute.
• 37:47
  I think a little bit about Dominic is that Dominic is he's a very big
• 37:52
  kid. I'm not saying big as in like fat. It's not really described
• 37:57
  as whether he's like just a like a you know, plump kid. But
• 38:01
  really he's described as being this big kid, like he's big for his age
• 38:06
  and his dark hair, dark eyes, and he has a very low,
• 38:14
  kind of broken voice. Like when Bear first hears Dominic speak for the first
• 38:19
  time, it almost seems like Dominic has a very hard time talking and can't
• 38:25
  really raise his voice about a certain octave, well not an octave, i
• 38:30
  should say, but to a certain volume. And he could tell it looks
• 38:34
  like in Bear could tell it looks like talking is kind of painful for him,
• 38:38
  and when he first it's the same. He meets Dominic at the same
• 38:45
  time they have their first meeting with Georgia, and while Georgia is evaluating their
• 38:49
  house, she tells him about she tells them about Dominic. So it turns
• 38:53
  out Dominic is a kid that Georgia had to remove from his home. The
• 39:00
  circumstances that Dominic was removed from his home was actually very extreme, simply because
• 39:05
  his father was extremely abusive to both him and his mother. Was he would
• 39:09
  physically beat both him and his mom, and it got so bad that at
• 39:15
  one point his father just snapped and ended up beating his mom to death.
• 39:20
  Now, in that scenario, I'm sorry, guys. Told disclaimer, there
• 39:23
  is some elements of physical abuse. We don't actually see it. It's just
• 39:29
  told secondhand from from a second hand account from Georgia of the CPS agent,
• 39:37
  just giving providing backstory for this new character Dominic. All right, so just
• 39:42
  be warned. It is kind of graphic. The story behind Dominic is a
• 39:46
  little graphic, and it's very tragic, but it really it's necessary for the
• 39:52
  story as well as for the development of his character in the future. All
• 39:57
  right, so just be warned. So, Dominic's dad brutally murdered his mom
• 40:05
  by beating her to death. While his father was assaulting his mom, Dominic
• 40:10
  Trot, who was about nine years old at the time, eight or nine
• 40:14
  years old at the time, tried to defend his mom and the only thing
• 40:19
  the way he could do that was he got a pair of scissors and he
• 40:22
  stabbed his dad several times. His dad did not die, but it did
• 40:25
  manage to get his dad. It did manage to stop his dad from completely
• 40:31
  beating his mom to a pulp. Unfortunately, the damage was done and his
• 40:35
  mom did pass that night. However, the entire experience was extremely traumatizing for
• 40:42
  Dominic, was he later described. Dominic would later describe the what happened,
• 40:51
  and but will I'll talk about that later, because he doesn't talk about that
• 40:55
  in this He doesn't actually reveal that in this book. But Georgia says that
• 41:01
  when she was called to this to Dominic's case, she arrived at the hospital,
• 41:07
  she was already informed about what his father did and what happened to Dominic's
• 41:10
  mother. But when she got to the hospital, all she could hear was
• 41:15
  this child screaming his head off. The poor kid had been screaming for several
• 41:20
  days straight. He would not stop, no matter what the people, what
• 41:22
  anybody did, and at one point it just seemed like something in the kid
• 41:29
  in Dominic's voice broke and he went completely silent. So Dominic had been so
• 41:37
  traumatized by this event that he screamed himself so bad that he actually ruptured his
• 41:45
  vocal cords. So while Dominic can speak, his voice is very broken and
• 41:50
  gravelly, and it's actually kind of painful for him. I mean, later
• 41:55
  on, as his character grows and develops more, talking becomes easier for him
• 42:00
  because he talks, he ends up. He starts coming out of the show
• 42:04
  and talks more, especially to Tyson, and but his voice is Devin you
• 42:14
  know how Matt voice is kind of whispery because of his of his own thank.
• 42:23
  Yeah, it's kind of like that, but it's more like in a
• 42:28
  more severe case, because Dominic has more severe damage to his weldal cords.
• 42:37
  And so yeah, aside from that little segue about Dominic, Dominic does become
• 42:44
  Tyson's best friend and somebody that he turns to and comes to rely on later
• 42:52
  in the future. Hint hint, But we will talk about that in the
• 42:59
  next book. Anyway, back to the overall story. Uh, we do
• 43:07
  have several different There are several like excuse me, let me pause, puzzling
• 43:14
  me reorganize my thought my thoughts slash notes. Uh. So yeah, they
• 43:21
  do have several court Uh, they do have several court hearings. Tyson Is
• 43:29
  does speak to the judge a few times to plead his case of being a
• 43:34
  you know, want to stay with his family, and then also, uh,
• 43:39
  and then I'm sorry not Tyson Bear pleads his case about wanting to take
• 43:44
  custody of Tie, and ty does see a therapist. Uh. This therapist
• 43:52
  is kind of funny. He's very he's very eccentric. And now that is
• 43:55
  another name I need to look up. Okay, so while I look up
• 44:01
  this, this guy's name, Uh, Tyson, I just want to say,
• 44:08
  hates the idea of seeing ah Bear. So ty hates the idea of
• 44:22
  seeing a therapist, and he is against He's very much against seeing a therapist.
• 44:32
  But for the sake of the uh, for the sake of the custody
• 44:38
  battle, he does agree to go see the He agrees to go see the
• 44:46
  therapist. Uh, Jesus is his name? Where is his name? Jacob
• 44:52
  god? I read this on Kindles, So excuses like, well, I
• 45:04
  can actually just look up the dude's name. Yeah, oh, maybe called
• 45:22
  the therapists. Yeah, so it takes Bear. I just want to say,
• 45:24
  it does take Bear a while to actually schedule a therapy, the appointment
• 45:30
  with the therapist, because for one thing, the kid is like giving a
• 45:32
  lot of pushback against seeing the therapist because he thinks it's stupid and he doesn't
• 45:37
  need to see a therapist. But you know that's what all kids say.
• 45:45
  Sorry, would you say repeat all that? Because my connection was dropped?
• 45:53
  Uh? Sorry, so no, I'm sorry. Well I'm looking at this.
• 46:07
  Uh okay, what part did you hear last? You're looking for his
• 46:10
  name? Okay, So, while I look at his name, I just
• 46:15
  want to say it does take Bear a while to schedule the appointment with the
• 46:19
  therapist because, for one thing, Ty is giving him a lot of pushback
• 46:22
  because he thinks seeing a therapist is unnecessary and ridiculous. Let me see here.
• 46:45
  Yeah. Also, Bear is nervous too, because he's not sure how
• 46:49
  things are gonna go at the therapist. Yeah. But but the thing is
• 47:01
  about this whole situation with the therapist is that Otter ends up being the one
• 47:07
  that just makes the final decision for them all because while because while Bear is
• 47:13
  dragging ass and while Tie is putting up a fit, Otter comes in and
• 47:15
  he's like, look, you guys don't like it. I don't like it
• 47:20
  either, but for the sake of this custody battle, we gotta go do
• 47:22
  it. And hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, I
• 47:30
  found it. I found it. I found it. M h. His
• 47:51
  name, Okay, here we go. His name is Eddie. Eddie,
• 48:01
  So Eddie is a very That's why I could describe Eddie is that he's very
• 48:06
  eccentric for a therapist. He's kind of like a hippie. We're talking like
• 48:14
  his office has the door to his office has those hanging beads, those bead
• 48:19
  curtains. Yeah, he has hippie shit all over the place, and yeah,
• 48:25
  but he specializes in child psychology and he often takes cases for the court,
• 48:30
  especially concerning custody. And he's very good at what he does despite his
• 48:36
  appearance. Like in the next book, he so thoroughly reads Tyson that Tyson
• 48:43
  like for once, is at a loss for words like Tyson is usually the
• 48:47
  one like let me, let me put the tell you something. I think
• 48:51
  I mentioned this in the last episode. But Tyson can be a little bit
• 48:53
  manipulative. He's very smart, but when he wants to avoid uncomfortable subjects he
• 48:58
  has he does this thing where he kind of manipulates the flow of the conversation
• 49:01
  and has a habit of just changing topics. And it's very for him.
• 49:07
  It's easy to do to to Bear because Bear is easy, is easily distractable.
• 49:17
  But the thing. The thing is is that Eddie does end up he
• 49:22
  so when all right, let me let me back up, back up.
• 49:25
  Uh. So, Eddie is a therapist that they end up seeing, and
• 49:32
  when they finally see him, he does three separate sessions with the kid,
• 49:37
  Bear and Otter. Otter was asked to be there because since he is a
• 49:43
  part of the household that the kid is living in and that Bear lives in
• 49:46
  as well, he's a part of the family. He they have to also
• 49:50
  make sure that bit that Otter is going to be positive influence on the kid.
• 49:55
  So in each of their sessions, and Eddie has this way of completely
• 50:00
  disarming Bear and the others and getting them to open up about themselves, and
• 50:06
  he completely reads them, and it's just it's hilarious because Bear is just like
• 50:09
  he's very he's he's very like standoffish with this with Eddie. But Eddie like
• 50:15
  easily just like he just the way Eddie works Bear like, he just works
• 50:21
  him and just like gets him to like open up. And like when he
• 50:24
  finally opens up and spills the beans about like his past, like his resentments
• 50:29
  and traumas about especially surrounding his mom, Bear stops and he's like, holy
• 50:34
  shit, how'd you do that. But at the end of the day,
• 50:39
  Eddie informs them that he actually he actually thinks that the that their sessions went
• 50:45
  very well. Of course, you guys have some things that I do recommend
• 50:50
  that you work on you know, I do recommend that you continue to see
• 50:53
  me, just so we can keep not only help you address your own personal
• 50:58
  issues, but also to help build your like give you a you know,
• 51:05
  put you in a better make it easier for you in court. Like you
• 51:08
  continue to see like keep seeing me. Of course, the court wants you
• 51:12
  to keep seeing me for now, but even after, it'll still look good
• 51:15
  in the eyes of the court. Right, so they continue. So Eddie
• 51:20
  becomes a regular therapist and a regular character for these guys. In the next
• 51:23
  few books beyond that, Uh, Erica, the attorney, eventually informs him
• 51:34
  that they finally have tracked down his his mother. It had taken a few
• 51:37
  months. They had already gone had a few court dates by this point where
• 51:44
  Bear pleads his case, and of course, like I said, he has
• 51:46
  those meetings with the with Georgia, the CPS agent, and things are starting
• 51:52
  to build up and look up look a lot better for them. And Erica
• 52:00
  informs Bear that after months of trying to track his mother down, they finally
• 52:06
  tracked her down and she is in hold On. I know the name of
• 52:13
  the state, it's like right next to because right now they are in see,
• 52:19
  they are in seaport, Oregon. That is where the story takes place,
• 52:23
  and Oregon turns out his mom was when she dipped. She had these
• 52:36
  ideas of seeing the world and traveling all over the place and getting as far
• 52:39
  away as possible, and it turns out she didn't even go far. She
• 52:46
  was actually just three hundred Yeah, she was actually just like about three four
• 52:51
  hundred miles away in Idaho. She was literally she was literally the next state
• 52:57
  over, like a five hour drive away. Oh yep. So they weren't
• 53:05
  able to track her down at first because she doesn't have she doesn't have a
• 53:09
  bank account of any kind, so she's not making any kind of deposits.
• 53:12
  She hasn't registered to vote in years. She hasn't really filed her taxes either.
• 53:17
  But eventually they were able to track her down because she had opened an
• 53:22
  account with a bank somewhere in Idaho and Erica. When she told him this,
• 53:29
  she also felt like she needed to inform him that when the courier served
• 53:32
  his mom with the papers for the custody for custody of Tyson, the courier
• 53:39
  noticed that his mom had a little girl with her. So, as it
• 53:51
  turns out, and this is later confirmed, Julie McKenna had another kid.
• 53:59
  Oh so not long after she dipped, she got pregnant again, and now
• 54:06
  she has a two to three year old little girl. Oh no, yep,
• 54:12
  and Tye. And the thing is Bear like he was upset and he
• 54:15
  did tell He does tell Tye, and they both have the same feeling that,
• 54:21
  oh, this poor girl, she's gonna go through what we went through.
• 54:24
  And the thing is there was Bear does have a moment where he considers
• 54:31
  having like maybe trying to like do something about his sister. But then again,
• 54:38
  but then he realizes, no, there's nothing he can do about her.
• 54:43
  Tie is his priority at the moment, and there's even if he did
• 54:47
  try to get his sister, he wouldn't have a case for it. So
• 54:52
  he takes it in stride. And while his mom has been served, they
• 54:59
  do have to wait for her response, whether or not she will she will
• 55:04
  show up to the future court date that has been set, or if she's
• 55:07
  just gonna go ahead and mail in her dying copy of her rights of her
• 55:12
  parental rights. Either way, they have to wait and see. Bear and
• 55:20
  Otter decide to have Not long after this, baron Otter decide to have a
• 55:23
  date night with some friends. Otter wants to take Bear to a gay bar
• 55:29
  because Bear has never been to one before. While they're there, they do
• 55:34
  run into some familiar faces. Of course, they run into Isaiah, the
• 55:38
  guy that came on to Bear very strong at school and still does, and
• 55:44
  he meets Otter for the first time, and Otter actually knocks him down on
• 55:47
  a peg because Otter is built. I don't know if I'm I don't know
• 55:53
  if I mentioned that in the last book, but with the last book,
• 55:58
  But Bear, I'm sorry not be Otter is built, all right. He
• 56:04
  is is not some scrawny little twink. He is this beefy guy, beefy,
• 56:08
  ruggy, rugged guy, all right. And he's way taller than but
• 56:15
  and he's also way taller than Bear too so and Isaiah is not much taller
• 56:20
  than than Bear. He's practically he's practically the same body type. And so,
• 56:24
  of course there's that moment, there's that moment where Bear basically where Otter
• 56:30
  basically tells that Isaiah the fuck off, and Bear runs into one of Tyson's
• 56:38
  teacher, a guy named David Trent. Now David. They did meet David
• 56:44
  earlier on in the book because when ty was starting school again, they went
• 56:49
  ahead and met his new teacher, and it turns out his teacher a guy
• 56:52
  named David Trent, who happens to be one of Otter's ex boyfriends. And
• 56:59
  this cause so this causes a bit of jealousy for Bear because for one thing,
• 57:02
  David is a very good looking guy, and this makes Bear feel insecure
• 57:08
  and he does feel some jealousy and kind of and he starts wondering, is
• 57:13
  Siscott really gonna be teaching my brother? Should he? Should he even be
• 57:16
  a teacher? Is he even is this even legal? Like double cheeked up
• 57:22
  on a Wednesday? Jesus Christ. Yeah. So. But they also run
• 57:28
  into him there to his teacher there at the gay bar, and he does
• 57:32
  have a moment another moment of jealousy. But all of that, Uh,
• 57:37
  Their little date night does end up coming to an end a lot sooner because
• 57:40
  when they went out to the bar, they left Tie in the care of
• 57:45
  Missus Packwin, And while they were gone, seems like Missus Packwin contact us,
• 57:52
  contacts them and tells them that the kid is having a panic attack.
• 57:57
  She actually sends him a picture of Tyson and hiding in the bathtub. And
• 58:01
  like I said in the last book, Tyson developed a coping mechanism for his
• 58:07
  panic disorder. And that's by and that's by getting into a bathtub and riding
• 58:12
  out the panic attack. So like using the bathtub kind of anchors him two,
• 58:21
  you know, helps him chill out because for him, his panic attacks
• 58:24
  feel it feels like an earthquake to him. So and like he learned as
• 58:30
  a young kid that when there's an earthquake, you hide in the bathtub.
• 58:36
  Yeah, so he uses the bathtub as his way of you know, basically
• 58:42
  fighting for his life as he's freaking out or kid and and and when So
• 58:50
  the thing is is that when they see that, when they realize that the
• 58:54
  kid's having a hard is having a hard time, they immediately end their not
• 59:00
  and rush home. The kid feels bad because he was trying. He didn't
• 59:02
  want to and he didn't want to ruin their night. But bear bearon Otter
• 59:07
  reassuring that no, you're our priority, all right, well, like we're
• 59:12
  always gonna be here for you. But then it doesn't matter what's going on,
• 59:15
  so which I'm like, oh right, yeah. So um it's not
• 59:28
  long after this that Otter decides to have another little date night with Bear,
• 59:36
  and so this date night is gonna happen the stretch of beach that uh Bar
• 59:47
  and Otter considered their beach. So if you remember in the last book,
• 59:52
  that's where they had their first official date, which ended disastrously because of a
• 59:57
  fucking seagull. Yeah, and uh, hang on, sorry, hang on,
• 1:00:07
  is that my cousin? What? Oh it's James Sarmone. No,
• 1:00:15
  I just like I kept hearing a lot of like I heard the door downstairs
• 1:00:20
  slam, and I heard something outside slam, and I'm like, what the
• 1:00:22
  fuck is that noise? Anyway, uh So they plan a nice little romantic
• 1:00:30
  evening out on the beach there, make sure, actually make sure that there's
• 1:00:35
  not gonna be any freak weather this time, and he also makes sure to
• 1:00:38
  keep an eye out for a particular winged rat while he's waiting. Uh So,
• 1:00:50
  he gets the beach first and gets everything set up, and he's waiting
• 1:00:53
  for I'm sorry, back up, back up, back the fuck up he
• 1:01:01
  was actually supposed to Otter was actually supposed to be there before him to have
• 1:01:07
  the whole thing set up. And when Bear gets there, he notices that
• 1:01:13
  the beach is empty, Otter isn't there. At first, Bear doesn't think
• 1:01:19
  anything of it. He just thinks, okay, Otter is just running late.
• 1:01:22
  But then a couple hours pass and Otter never shows up, and Bear
• 1:01:30
  is getting understandably upset, and he's starting to wonder where Otter could be.
• 1:01:36
  He tries to call Otter, but he doesn't get a response, and now
• 1:01:42
  he's starting to get concerned and upset. He's not sure what Otter is,
• 1:01:45
  what's going on with Otter, But eventually he does get a call. It
• 1:01:52
  is from kay. Uh, I believe it is actually from the Polite hold
• 1:02:08
  on, let me double check this part. Let me double check this part,
• 1:02:12
  future Devin, it's out. I'm so sorry. Ah, no,
• 1:02:15
  you could you could let me see let me see here did the late night?
• 1:03:17
  Hey there's the beach? Okay, uh, there we go. All
• 1:03:45
  right, I'm sorry. So it wasn't actually an hour, Otter Bear only
• 1:03:52
  was there for about sorry, about twenty minutes and uh twenty minutes past the
• 1:04:00
  time that they were supposed to meet up. No, hold on, hold
• 1:04:10
  on, I am sorry. Yeah, so I'm sorry. We're just I
• 1:04:33
  can't I can't remember how long he waited and it doesn't really say how long
• 1:04:39
  he waited before he starts calling Otter try to figure out where he is.
• 1:04:50
  All right, let's see, yeah, So he waits for some time and
• 1:05:03
  then he calls him, and he calls him like about four times after the
• 1:05:10
  fourth time, which is like, let me see, hold on, see
• 1:05:14
  first time five minutes, so five fifteen, So I say about twenty five
• 1:05:20
  minutes. So he waits about half an hour or so. All right,
• 1:05:26
  we'll put it like this. So he gets to the beach and he notices
• 1:05:30
  that Otter isn't there at first. While he's at first, he thinks maybe
• 1:05:35
  Otter is running late because he was under the impression that Otter was going to
• 1:05:40
  have something set up, but nothing is there. And then while he's waiting,
• 1:05:44
  he has this idea that maybe Otter did this as a joke to get
• 1:05:46
  him out of the house for another type of surprise, right, And he's
• 1:05:54
  thinking, oh, ha haa, this is funny. But he decides to
• 1:05:57
  wait for a few minutes to see if he gets any kind of response from
• 1:06:00
  He doesn't see Otter at all, so he begins calling Otter. He calls
• 1:06:08
  him about like four times over the period of about thirty minutes. Each time
• 1:06:13
  it's going to he keeps getting Otter's voicemail, and after the last call,
• 1:06:17
  he's finally starting to get really nervous and he's wondering where you are, where
• 1:06:23
  Otter is because of uh, because he has no idea what's going on now.
• 1:06:29
  After the fourth time he calls, he gets his phone, it does
• 1:06:31
  ring and he picks it up and he assumes it's Otter, but he's he's
• 1:06:36
  surprised to hear that it is the kid, and the kid sounds terrified.
• 1:06:46
  Uh So, while Bear and Otter were having their little we're supposed to have
• 1:06:49
  their little date on the beach, they of course left kid in the care
• 1:06:55
  of Missus Paquin again, but when kid calls. When the kid calls Bear,
• 1:07:05
  he tells Bear that he is with Missus Packwin at the hospital and as
• 1:07:12
  it turns out, Missus Packwin suffered a stroke. Oh no and yeah,
• 1:07:21
  so so at this point, Barry is becoming hysterical. He's Bear's becoming hysterical
• 1:07:42
  because he's not sure what's going on. He doesn't know where Barry is.
• 1:07:45
  And now Missus Packwin is in the hospital and the kid is there with her.
• 1:07:48
  He asks him, is honor with you, and the kid tells him,
• 1:07:55
  no, he doesn't know where Otter is. He came to the hospital
• 1:07:58
  with Missus Packwin in the ambulance. So still now there's a crisis going on
• 1:08:04
  and Bear has to get there to be to make sure the kid is okay
• 1:08:09
  as well as to see how missus Packwin is doing because she is family,
• 1:08:15
  and he ends up saying he ends up leaving the beach, but as he's
• 1:08:28
  making his way back to his car from the beach, he gets another phone
• 1:08:31
  call, but he hoping that this is Bear I'm sorry, Hoping that this
• 1:08:41
  is Otter, he picks it up, but instead it is actually another is
• 1:08:48
  actually a doctor from the same hospital that Missus Packwin was admitted at. First
• 1:08:55
  Bear is confused and he tells her he knows that missus Packwin has had a
• 1:08:59
  stroke and that he's on his way because he's on his way to check.
• 1:09:02
  He's on his way at the moment. But the thing is, the doctor
• 1:09:11
  informs him that she's not calling about Missus Paquin. No, she's actually calling
• 1:09:21
  about Otter. Uh oh so uh oh yeah that that leg Gaga meme.
• 1:09:38
  Yep, no, yeah. So, as it turns out, when Otter
• 1:09:45
  was on his way to the beach for their little date night. He was
• 1:09:49
  struck by a drunk driver. Oh my god, he better don't tell me
• 1:09:54
  he's dead. I can't take that. He the doctor informs him that Otter
• 1:10:00
  is in critical condition. He's currently in a coma, bad shape. And
• 1:10:08
  now Otter. Now Bear has to deal with two things. The love of
• 1:10:12
  his life is in critical condition at the hospital while his grandmotherly like figure and
• 1:10:19
  his second motherly like figure, Missus Paquin, is also in a coma because
• 1:10:25
  she suffered from a severe stroke. So he's basically free. He's losing his
• 1:10:31
  mind at this point. He's very he's at this point, he's actually really
• 1:10:34
  numb. And uh, let me see here. Let's see here, all
• 1:11:03
  right. Yeah, So Bear's freaking out and then he races to the hospital.
• 1:11:15
  He gets there and he makes sure to check on both, uh,
• 1:11:21
  Missus pack Win and Otter. Missus Packwin is for her is hard to look
• 1:11:27
  at it. For him, it's hard to see because while she's there in
• 1:11:30
  her hospital bed, in the coma, she looks older and more frail than
• 1:11:34
  she's ever looked before. I mean, she's always been old. She's a
• 1:11:39
  woman in her, I believe in her mid to late seventies. And but
• 1:11:45
  she's always been she was always so very full of life that you basically she
• 1:11:47
  was so full of life you could it's easy to forget that she was an
• 1:11:50
  elderly woman. And but at one point, but but I just want to
• 1:12:03
  say, but before he can actually go, before he actually gets in to
• 1:12:08
  see missus paquin and Otter, he runs into someone else at the hospital.
• 1:12:13
  Oh god, who who the fuck? Now? Is ex girlfriend Anna?
• 1:12:17
  Oh my god? She's this boy? Can catch can this boy catch a
• 1:12:23
  break? Oh? She's Oh, she's fine, She's just pregnant. Okay,
• 1:12:29
  okay, she's pregnant. So the thing is is that he runs into
• 1:12:34
  her on his when he gets into the hospital, he's freaking out, and
• 1:12:40
  she's also freaking out. She's kind of borderline hysteric, and she like this
• 1:12:45
  kind of brings him, kind of grounds him a bit, and he makes
• 1:12:47
  and he talks to her, calms her down, and uh. She at
• 1:13:03
  first she's confused. She does because she didn't expect to see Bear there and
• 1:13:08
  she was wondering why how he knew And he tells her because Tyson told me,
• 1:13:12
  and she's like, well, how would Tyson knows here what's going on?
• 1:13:15
  And he tells her about both Otter and Missus Packwin and like he mentions
• 1:13:21
  that it's because of Otter and Missus Packwin that's why he's there, and she's
• 1:13:26
  still confused. She doesn't quite she doesn't really get that they're that those two
• 1:13:30
  are there for for extreme medical reasons, and she begins to basically break down
• 1:13:36
  and she spills the beans that she's pregnant with his best friend's child. And
• 1:13:48
  and at this point, his mind is basically shutting down because his mind is
• 1:13:57
  basically shutting down because he's being overloaded with so many things. The love of
• 1:14:00
  his life is fighting for his life, his mother, his second mother,
• 1:14:05
  is also fighting for her life, and now his ex girlfriend slash best friend
• 1:14:11
  is pregnant. And he's like, okay, Anna, listen. I love
• 1:14:15
  you, babe, I really do. You're like family, and and we'll
• 1:14:24
  we'll we'll. I will be there for you. I will hold your hands,
• 1:14:29
  I will help you break the news to Creed. But I really need
• 1:14:33
  to get into this hospital and and check on Otter and Missus Paquin because they
• 1:14:41
  are both fighting for their lives here. And that's when she finally gets it
• 1:14:45
  that uh Otter. That's when she gets it that there why he's there,
• 1:14:49
  and she helps him. She like composes herself and helps him find the two
• 1:14:57
  of them. She helps him find Missus Pacwin first, because that's where the
• 1:15:00
  kid is. That's where the kid is. He makes after making sure he's
• 1:15:05
  okay and seeing how bad, how much of a bad condition Missus Paquin is,
• 1:15:10
  he finally works up the courage to go look for Otter. And Otter
• 1:15:15
  is hard to look at. He is fucked up. He's basically almost in
• 1:15:21
  a full body cast. One side of his body is completely bruised up and
• 1:15:27
  in a cast. That's because when the drunk driver hit him, he was
• 1:15:31
  hit on his driver's side while he was crossing an intersection. The driver,
• 1:15:36
  the drunk driver, ran the red light and struck Otter. It was it's
• 1:15:42
  also very tragic. Bear learns later that while the drunk driver was arrested,
• 1:15:48
  the drunk driver actually had his daughter in the car and she unfortunately died in
• 1:15:55
  the crass no oh no oh no, yeah, and well, he sympathizes
• 1:16:00
  with the family. He's having a hard time feeling bad for the drunk driver
• 1:16:04
  because well, his own family is is dying because of him, because of
• 1:16:11
  this guy. So he's kind of like, not so much as like fuck
• 1:16:15
  her, but fuck that guy. Yeah. Yeah, like, oh,
• 1:16:18
  I'm sorry your daughter died full fuck you, motherfucker. You're the reason she's
• 1:16:24
  dead in the first place. I mean, which is true. You make
• 1:16:27
  Listen, people, you make the decision to drink and drive, all right,
• 1:16:31
  You're gonna suffer the consequences, all right, whatever happens, Whatever happens,
• 1:16:38
  it is your own fucking fault, all right, It is your own
• 1:16:43
  goddamn fault. So they do spend ending several weeks in the ICU despite the
• 1:16:58
  condition. He finds Otter, and he's informed that Otter will make a full
• 1:17:02
  recovery. It's just a matter of time for him to come out of his
• 1:17:06
  coma, and unfortunately missus Paquin passes away. Oh no, Yeah. The
• 1:17:20
  thing is is the stroke was too severe. We're talking like full like full
• 1:17:29
  neurological shutdown or I don't know the full medical terms for it. But her
• 1:17:35
  brain was deprived of oxygen for too long. So even if she did survive
• 1:17:42
  and pull through, she would be a shell of who she was and she
• 1:17:45
  wouldn't really be her. She ended up leaving everything to Bear and the kid,
• 1:17:57
  which wasn't much, but they she made she made him his She made
• 1:18:00
  him the executor of her. What is it? What are they called the
• 1:18:06
  executor of the not the property, but the the person who takes care of
• 1:18:18
  I guess the person who takes care of uh, basically the post death stuff.
• 1:18:28
  It takes care of the Oh god, I don't know what you're talking
• 1:18:30
  about. Yeah, they're the ones that are will be that the deceased in
• 1:18:38
  trusts with handling their their stuff. Yeah, handing them, burying them,
• 1:18:45
  taking care of their stuff or whatever. Yeah, so, oh god,
• 1:18:49
  what is the term? Yeah, well we'll we'll probably remember it later.
• 1:18:55
  Yeah, that's only once we don't we're finished recording. It's going to hit
• 1:18:57
  me. But she makes him the executor. And they do end up cremating
• 1:19:03
  her, and her ashes are spread and then they are spread over that little,
• 1:19:11
  their little secret beach. It was kind of funny when they actually do
• 1:19:15
  spread her ashes. They were going to throw it into the ocean, but
• 1:19:18
  when they released the ashes into the ocean, a wind came back and blew
• 1:19:24
  all of her ashes back into their faces, which they had a good laugh
• 1:19:28
  over because missus Paquin was always known for being very cheeky and very you know,
• 1:19:33
  a bit of a prankster, so they just knew she was gonna like
• 1:19:36
  she would get a kick out of this, like one final joke. Of
• 1:19:43
  course they do. They don't. They don't actually end up doing that just
• 1:19:47
  yet, because they do wait. They do takes their time to wait for
• 1:19:53
  spreading her ashes because they knew that Otter would want to be there, and
• 1:19:57
  since he was still in a comb at the time, they decided, wait,
• 1:20:00
  thank god, Otter does come out of the coma, and after say,
• 1:20:09
  like a few weeks, let me see here, H'd say about I'd
• 1:20:29
  say about six weeks. He was in a coma, So he was in
• 1:20:33
  a good good he was in there for a good while. And while he
• 1:20:39
  was in the coma, he ended up having surgery on his leg. They
• 1:20:42
  had to put a titanium implant on his leg because of how busted up it
• 1:20:46
  was. So he's gonna have a bad he's gonna have a bad knee for
• 1:20:50
  the rest of his life. But something he's but other than that, he
• 1:20:55
  has no other severe damage, no brain damage, nothing like that. Nothing
• 1:20:59
  that would be con or debilitating. While they were waiting for Bear. While
• 1:21:05
  they were waiting for Otter to wake up, Bear discovers that Otter that in
• 1:21:11
  that that Otter had a little box on him that he was clutching. When
• 1:21:18
  he was brought into the ICU. Otter was actually conscious and he refused to
• 1:21:29
  let go of this box. He was actually holding onto this box and he
• 1:21:31
  was crying out for Bear. He was kind of a bit delirious. The
• 1:21:36
  coma that he was put in was actually a medical induced coma, so that
• 1:21:41
  way he can properly recover, and at that point he had to just come
• 1:21:45
  out of it on his own. But when the doctors give him Otters belonging,
• 1:21:49
  Bear finds the box with a little poem on it, and inside the
• 1:21:54
  box were two rings. Oh yeah, so the uh so sure was going
• 1:22:01
  to propose to Bear. Ah yeah. So Bear was especially pissed off because
• 1:22:09
  he's like like, he was especially pissed off because like right when he was
• 1:22:13
  gonna get like everything he is he deserves, right man of his, the
• 1:22:18
  man of his, the man he loves more than anything else in the world,
• 1:22:25
  and his you know, that pretty much gets taken away from him and
• 1:22:29
  his second mom basically gets taken away from him, so he's just very unfair
• 1:22:33
  for him. Uh, he's He gets very angry and upset, but he
• 1:22:39
  has no other choice but to wait for Bear to come for Otter to come
• 1:22:43
  out of it on his own. While they wait for Otter to come out
• 1:22:48
  of his coma, Bear gets a visitor. Oh yep, who now his
• 1:22:56
  mother? Yes, oh my god, of course that Bet will come back,
• 1:23:00
  so yep. But she comes clean. She the reason why she showed
• 1:23:11
  up was because after she was subpoenut by the court for the custody case,
• 1:23:15
  she decides she realizes that Bear is really is serious about fighting for Tyson and
• 1:23:25
  decides that it's not worth the fight, and she showed up so that way
• 1:23:30
  she can give Bear her signed papers of her the sign paper work for her
• 1:23:34
  parental rights. So she completely signs over her rights to Bear. So now
• 1:23:42
  Bear is officially Tyson's legal guardian. Yay yep. But Bear is still very
• 1:23:50
  upset with her all right, Like he he doesn't really buy it, like
• 1:23:56
  I mean, he accepts the papers, but he doesn't really buy it.
• 1:23:59
  Why would why now? Like why did she suddenly decide against trying to take
• 1:24:05
  Tyson away? From him and she comes clean. So, as it turns
• 1:24:12
  out, Julie McKenna was approached by Otter's ex boyfriend Jonah now I mentioned him
• 1:24:23
  in the last In the last episode, Jonah was Otter's most recent relationship that
• 1:24:31
  he had before he got with Bear. But after he found out that Jonah
• 1:24:38
  cheated on him, and also after Otter came to the realization that he can't
• 1:24:44
  really get over Bear, he decided to end things with Jonah and he came
• 1:24:47
  back to See Fair to fight for Bear Hm to reconnect with Bear. And
• 1:24:56
  the thing is is that Jonah, as it turns out, was a lot
• 1:24:59
  more there's a lot more of a scumbag than we realized. He somehow,
• 1:25:05
  so Jonah was a very well off man and he'd managed After instance, he
• 1:25:13
  knew about Bear. He did some digging and he found out about Bear and
• 1:25:18
  Otter's relationship and he got really jealous about this, so he wanted to try
• 1:25:24
  to find a way to break the two of them up so he can get
• 1:25:27
  back together with Otter. The thing about Jonah is he's that kind of person
• 1:25:31
  that doesn't take no for an answer, and he does more digging on Bear
• 1:25:39
  and he manages to track down Bear's mom, Julie McKenna, and he approaches
• 1:25:44
  Julie with an offer that he would pay her a good sum of money.
• 1:25:53
  Two basically go back and force to break up with Otter, and he even
• 1:26:02
  coaches her on using the whole like Christian religious bullshit. Right, And that's
• 1:26:09
  why she did it. It's not because she actually wanted to take Tyson away
• 1:26:14
  or really or if she actually cared about Bear being gay. It was just
• 1:26:18
  because somebody paid her. Who. Yeah, Julie McKenna is just real,
• 1:26:27
  real piece of work, all right, that she was, that she'd be
• 1:26:31
  willing to like she screwed over her sons so many times. Oh fuck that
• 1:26:35
  bitch, you know. She tells him everything, and she agrees that she
• 1:26:41
  will never come back and she will never bother Bear or Otter or the kid
• 1:26:45
  again, and she gives them the signed paperwork for the CUSP for her legal
• 1:26:50
  rights for her parental rights while upsetting. While this was deeply upsetting for Bear,
• 1:27:00
  he doesn't tell Otter or the kid right away. Instead, he decides
• 1:27:03
  to just let matters slide. He gives the paperwork over to his attorney and
• 1:27:09
  he is officially awarded full custody of kid, and after Otter comes out of
• 1:27:17
  his coma and gets through his real bit through his rehabilitation, he finally properly
• 1:27:28
  proposed proposes to Bear embarrasses yes, uh huh, And this story and pretty
• 1:27:40
  much comes to an end with them having one last having their wedding on that
• 1:27:45
  same stretch of beach, and it was it was a very sweet wedding,
• 1:27:49
  nice little beach wedding. And while everything was nice and like going really well,
• 1:28:00
  it's kind of ruined by a fucking seagull again that scene, damn seagull.
• 1:28:12
  Oh my god. This time it takes a ship on Bear. Oh
• 1:28:17
  no, yeah, and we're not talking like a little like doll up of
• 1:28:21
  ship. We're talking like a massive like just bucket like completely ruins his suit.
• 1:28:30
  Bear fore like goes off and tries to kill the bird. Everyone's laughing
• 1:28:33
  their ass off. But uh, luckily for Bear and Otter they managed to
• 1:28:40
  h They say their vows, they say their ideas, they may kiss them,
• 1:28:45
  they may kiss their husbands, and it's so gay love it. We
• 1:28:53
  live for that. Uh. But yeah, who we are? Ends with
• 1:28:59
  the two of them getting married, and there is a nice little scene.
• 1:29:05
  Let me see here, let me go to the epilogue. So the book
• 1:29:15
  does end with a nice little little epilogue. Hang on, hang on,
• 1:29:23
  hang on this time hang hang on. Oh, I'm sorry, I almost
• 1:29:51
  forgot so Otter and Bear finally Ti finally tieing out. And a few months
• 1:30:00
  later, Preed and his now fiance Anna welcome their firstborn son, and let's
• 1:30:23
  see here. Hey it's a boy. And they end up naming him Joseph
• 1:30:33
  John or Joseph Jean or JJ for sure. And there is that, and
• 1:30:45
  I am so sorry, I'm just looking for the epilogue. So the book
• 1:30:49
  ends on an epilogue, and this time it is six years after their marriage,
• 1:30:56
  after they get married, and it is actually from and there it cover
• 1:31:05
  U. It is six years later. Uh, this is actually from the
• 1:31:08
  perspective of the kid, Tyson yea. And as it turns out, actually
• 1:31:17
  I'm sorry, it's not from Tyson. Oh my god, I'm getting it.
• 1:31:23
  I'm getting ahead of myself because the all right, just to spoiler alert,
• 1:31:26
  next book is going to be from the perspective of Tyson the kid.
• 1:31:30
  Yeah, yeah, this one is actually going to be. The epilogue ends
• 1:31:34
  from the perspective of Otter it is actually yeah. So this is kind of
• 1:31:41
  a bit of a lead up into the into the next book. Kid is
• 1:31:50
  now sixteen, and he is actually graduating from high school a lot earlier because
• 1:31:56
  he skipped several grades because of how smart he is. And he's about to
• 1:32:01
  start school and he got accepted into an Ivy League school on the East Coast.
• 1:32:10
  So instead of him going by himself, the whole family, Bear and
• 1:32:15
  Otter decide to move across the country to be there with Otter, I'm sorry,
• 1:32:21
  with the kid so and they have to do that because since he's still
• 1:32:28
  a minor, they can't just let him go live on the dorm by himself.
• 1:32:30
  So they decide to pack up everything and move across the country for the
• 1:32:38
  kid to start school. And the thing is, the kid is now starting
• 1:32:41
  to deal with his Yeah, And now the thing is the kid is starting
• 1:32:44
  to deal with his own teenage ants because, as I mentioned earlier, he
• 1:32:49
  became best friends with a young boy named Dominic. Dominic is about five years
• 1:32:57
  older than the kid. See, he's sixteen now, and Dominic is once
• 1:33:12
  he I think actually, I think dom is actually like five or six years
• 1:33:17
  older than the kid. And so while the kid is still sixteen and just
• 1:33:25
  graduating high school. Dominic grows up and decides to become a cop, something
• 1:33:30
  that the kid didn't really like because he was afraid for his friend's safety because
• 1:33:35
  you know, the life of a cop is hard and it's not always noble.
• 1:33:44
  I guess you could say, because of you know, all the controversy
• 1:33:47
  surrounding cops. But Dominic was inspired to become a cop because of his own
• 1:33:56
  personal past traumas and his experiences with police, especially how police basically we're there
• 1:34:03
  for him after what happened to his parents, and he believes he can make
• 1:34:09
  a difference in a kid's life because he wants to try to prevent something like
• 1:34:14
  that from ever happening again. Yeah, but the thing is is that kid
• 1:34:19
  is now dealing with his own feelings towards his older police officer best friend.
• 1:34:32
  Hint, hint, Oh my god. But that is pretty much where this
• 1:34:41
  book ends. It does have a nice little lead up into the next book.
• 1:34:46
  Like I said, the next book is going to be well, I'm
• 1:34:50
  sorry, I don't know if you're going to cut out that earlier part where
• 1:34:54
  I mentioned that to you, Devin. But so the next book is going
• 1:34:57
  to be from the perspective of the kid. Book three of bare Otter and
• 1:35:02
  the Kid Chronicles is titled The Art of Breathing, and it's going to be
• 1:35:11
  talking about now. It's going to be centered on the kid and his own
• 1:35:14
  struggles because now that he's getting older. As I've said before, the kids
• 1:35:19
  scoffs at therapy. He doesn't think he really needs it. But his panic
• 1:35:25
  disorder actually gets a lot worse for him. And there's some things that will
• 1:35:29
  happen in the next book that ends up making his life a lot harder for
• 1:35:32
  him. And not to spoil it too much, but the kid actually struggles
• 1:35:41
  with substance abuse, particularly narcotics like controlled narcochotics. We're not talking like like
• 1:35:50
  hardcore drugs like cocaine or shit like that. It's more of like controlled substances
• 1:35:57
  like oxy and other forms of antidepressants and highly addictive painkillers and things like that.
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  M hm. So it's gonna be dealing with that, and it's also
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  it's gonna be the story will be censored around his struggles with that as well
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  as his him as him confronting his feeling his deeper feelings for his for his
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  friend Dominic and that is where we're gonna end this episode. Yayyay. So
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  thank you guys for listening. Again. I definitely recommend that you got that.
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  Everybody take at least take a look at these books. Bear Ottering the
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  Kid for me is such a refreshing it's refreshing read. A refreshing read for
• 1:36:50
  me because for one thing, being gay, I am surrounded. I'm often
• 1:36:55
  exposed to a lot of straight romance. You know, every you'll find that
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  anywhere you go. And while it, you know, everyone loves a good
• 1:37:05
  romance, but as a game, but as a gay man, you know,
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  I would like to see I was just craving more romance that I feel
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  a connection to, you know what I mean, like something that I relate
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  to. So being a gay man, it doesn't really like while it's you
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  know, I do get my ooze and ah's out when you know, I
• 1:37:31
  see a good love story, like I mean, if you watch Elemental,
• 1:37:36
  like that new Disney movie Elemental loved it and I'm just like, oh,
• 1:37:42
  it's cute. But at the same time, I'm just like, god,
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  it's so fucking straight. Yeah, and it and just like with Wolf's song,
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  Bear Otter and the Kid is just another It's just so refreshing to see
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  more of this. It's very real, and it does like it does hit
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  on these points and struggles that a lot of gay people have to deal with,
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  bigotry, trauma. I mean we you know, people who come who
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  are part of the Alphabet mafia. We have our own brand of trauma,
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  all right. I mean, I'm not saying that our trauma is better than
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  anybody else's. I'm just saying that we ourselves have our own unique type of
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  it because we have to deal with a lot of us have to deal with
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  rejection either from our family or society as a whole. We have to deal
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  with the abuse that we often suffer in the like religious abuse. I want
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  to just point that out. Religious abuse is a very real thing, Yeah,
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  especially if you come from a very hardcore religious household. A lot of
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  us had to deal with that. A lot of us had to deal with
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  repressed emotions and feelings, and this often causes wide admir rate of personality disorders
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  because we're not able to actually live the way we're meant to live, all
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  right. We're not able to be We're not able to be who we are.
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  And even now, like Devin and I we are two gay men.
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  Well, Devon's bisexual, but we are two gay men in San Antonio,
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  Texas. And while San Antonio is more or less a very accepting city and
• 1:39:27
  I don't know, I don't know about you, Devon, I don't really
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  see much bigotry here, not really, because it's it's kind of it's pretty
• 1:39:35
  progressive here. Yeah, that's pretty progressive or less. And also, like
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  I mean, being a highly Latin centric city, like we have a very
• 1:39:46
  large Latin community here. When it comes to like the subject of homosexuality Latinos,
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  it's a it's a hit or miss with them. They either just don't
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  talk about it or they just really just I don't want to know. I
• 1:40:03
  don't want They don't they don't want to know, don't know. Yeah,
• 1:40:08
  it's very much like that. And although things are starting to change slowly but
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  surely. Uh, but we have face our own we have faced our own
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  form of bigotry, all right. I know, like before I know,
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  I was bullied for being gay, even before I knew I was gay,
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  And switched says a lot because that means other people knew girl. I am
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  a white, Irish blooded American fucking white man and I'm gay hell, and
• 1:40:44
  with the whole because I wanted to. I want to state that because I
• 1:40:46
  agree with the whole Latin side of things on how they don't want to know,
• 1:40:53
  they don't want to know, don't tell them because not necessarily dealing with
• 1:40:56
  me, but dealing with friends. Majority of my friends over I would say
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  good nine percent of my friends more or less are Latin or Hispanic in some
• 1:41:05
  way, shape or form. Dealing with being the minority down here in San
• 1:41:12
  Antonio because white people and sorry, Caucasians are the minority here. But I've
• 1:41:17
  seen my fair share of that, that's true. I think, like last
• 1:41:21
  time I checked, it's more of like, oh yeah, they are they
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  minority. There's more Spanish. I think there's more a Spanic here than there
• 1:41:28
  are like white people. They're Caucasian people. But no, yeah, I
• 1:41:35
  mean, of course, like the JB have dealt with my own share of
• 1:41:39
  homophobia in some way, like picking on school, being in the closet.
• 1:41:44
  I'm not gay, even though sweetie, you're you're, you're, you're one
• 1:41:47
  step away from doing the twirl and opposed with sparkles like girl, come on,
• 1:41:53
  babe, you're a fuck oupt did your dream to coseplay a sailor?
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  Mon? No, girl, it's my dream to fucking well, that's the
• 1:42:06
  bisexuality coming to me. Like Bayin added to step on me and be like,
• 1:42:11
  yes, ma'am, you know, but that's the bisexuality in me.
• 1:42:14
  But like just just to go down the street and be like, see a
• 1:42:16
  girl and that is that is, that is that's attractive and just be like's
• 1:42:21
  they be like girl, you're pretty? Like girls? Girl? You pretty?
• 1:42:25
  But girl, yes, mama work like gay. So it's not us.
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  It's harder the high than others. And then some people who think they
• 1:42:40
  are hiding it pretty well obviously don't. I could tell you know, I
• 1:42:45
  get my gatar is one hundred on point, have not been wrong yet,
• 1:42:49
  thank you. Well you know that guy I'm seeing right now, I mean
• 1:42:57
  we actually we met. Uh we were talking about that, and he was
• 1:43:01
  like, you know, if I didn't meet you, if I didn't meet
• 1:43:06
  you on that specific uh you know, dating app, I would never have
• 1:43:13
  guessed that you were gay. If girl, Please No, he really said
• 1:43:16
  that. I'm not lying. He really said that people y'all's gatars must be
• 1:43:23
  must be messed up. Mmm. I knew the seconds, like, you're
• 1:43:30
  just projecting. I'm not projecting, babe. I was out when I met
• 1:43:33
  you. I wasn't projecting. I'm not projecting. Me and our other friend
• 1:43:39
  that based me and Brie Brandy old school tea of the gods. O.
• 1:43:44
  G we knew, we saw all. You were like, m yeah,
• 1:43:48
  we're not dumb. Y'all's gatar must be off with love of course. Uh
• 1:43:58
  huh. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, like I was saying, the
• 1:44:03
  Bear Otter and Kid chronicles, they do. They hit a lot of different
• 1:44:09
  subjects when it comes to the struggles of the LGBTQ community. And yeah,
• 1:44:17
  I think it's just I think TJ. Kluhn is doing a very good job.
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  And I enjoy his books very much, so much so that I read
• 1:44:28
  let me see, I read thirteen of his books within the span of a
• 1:44:31
  month. Yes, yes, you've mentioned that a couple of times. And
• 1:44:36
  I gave Devin nothing but shit for it because he was still reading one book,
• 1:44:41
  you know what. Yeah, I was. I was, and I
• 1:44:45
  will not apologize for it. And I'm still reading you and I'm still in
• 1:44:49
  the middle of reading one of his other books too. As of right now.
• 1:44:54
  It's Okay, boo, just stick to your audiobooks. You know what.
• 1:44:58
  I am reading his I'm reading of his books right now. I just
• 1:45:00
  haven't done it recently because I've been moving. I know now I'm moved,
• 1:45:04
  so now like now, like I had no excuse, but I know nonetheless,
• 1:45:11
  I'm just giving you ship. I know you're giving me ship. I
• 1:45:15
  know, what do you think it's gonna happen? I give you ship all
• 1:45:17
  them only very you give me ship. But next week we're gonna be talking
• 1:45:24
  about the third book in the series. Yes we are, The Art of
• 1:45:27
  Breathing. That's a that's a weird name. Well it's it's it's called that
• 1:45:33
  because it's a reference to one of the ways the kid manages and regulates his
• 1:45:42
  panic disorder. It's actually something, it's actually something I do. You saw
• 1:45:45
  me do it. So yeah, So just not not to like build too
• 1:45:51
  much details, but I got a little too lit a Halloween party that Devin
• 1:45:59
  and I were at a few weekends ago, and let's just say I got
• 1:46:04
  a Yeah, I got a little too lit, and it triggered a bad
• 1:46:10
  panic attack. I haven't had a panic attack like that in a long time,
• 1:46:14
  Like I was it got. It was bad because I like knew that
• 1:46:19
  if I I felt like I just couldn't breathe and I couldn't, like I
• 1:46:23
  thought I was going to pass out, That's how bad it was. So
• 1:46:27
  the thing is is that whenever I get those things like that, even with
• 1:46:30
  anxiety, there's this special type of breathing technique that I use. It's not
• 1:46:40
  so much as like holding my breath. It's kind of like holding your breath,
• 1:46:43
  but like for some people, they take a deep breath and hold it
• 1:46:47
  and like maybe like count to ten and then they release it and then take
• 1:46:53
  another deep breath, and it's supposed to help you control your heart rate and
• 1:46:58
  keep you from like from your panic attack from escalating further. So it's just
• 1:47:03
  like it's supposed to be. It's like it's a technique that helps to get
• 1:47:09
  your body to relax and stop from freaking out and panicking. And the way
• 1:47:14
  it does, and the art of breathing the title is like is like a
• 1:47:21
  it's like a direct reference to that because aside from using the using a bathtub
• 1:47:26
  to cope with his panic disorder, the kid when he doesn't have access to
• 1:47:30
  one, he often uses a special breathing technique, and I use it,
• 1:47:34
  though I do things a little differently because for me, I, instead of
• 1:47:39
  taking a deep breath in, I excel and just hold it and just like
• 1:47:44
  hold it there, like I don't take a deep breath, but I exhale
• 1:47:47
  and hold that excel for like, uh as long as I can. And
• 1:47:53
  if I need to breathe, I'll take a deep breath, a quick deep
• 1:47:56
  breath and like just bread in and then breathe out and then just hold it
• 1:48:00
  like that. Because for me, that doing it that way kind of like
• 1:48:05
  it keeps it causes me to relax a lot quicker. And if I had
• 1:48:12
  done it any other way, I probably would have like descended further into a
• 1:48:16
  panic attack in the middle of a costume party. But I came out of
• 1:48:20
  it pretty quick because I use that breathing technique. And while I'm not saying
• 1:48:27
  it's a technique everyone should use. If you don't have easy access to antidepressants
• 1:48:31
  and other medicines that help you with panic disorders, these little exercises are like
• 1:48:40
  you are going to be your best friends. But anyway, thank you guys,
• 1:48:47
  We're gonna go ahead and sign off. I hope you enjoyed this episode
• 1:48:49
  and catch us next week for book three of bear Otter in the Kids Chronicles
• 1:48:55
  The Art of Breathing. Yeah until then bye, I yeah