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Jaguars Happy Hour | Rookie Minicamp Stories w/ Austen Lane & Jeff Lageman · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, May eight.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jaguar's Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by dream Finders' Homes. And now,
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  Speaker 1: though White Smoke is dissipating, the new pontiff of Pro
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  Speaker 1: Football is j P.
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  Speaker 2: Shag.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I do not accept welcome in.
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  Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. We've got a busy hour ahead
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  Speaker 3: on this Thursday. Jeff Logoman is in. Austin Lane is
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  Speaker 3: in with us today Wide Receiver Room Changers. They have
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  Speaker 3: whacked Gabe Davis. We'll get to the aftermath of that
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  Speaker 3: rookie mini camp eve. They'll be on the grass Friday
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  Speaker 3: and Saturday. All the kids will be here, including Travis Hunter,
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  Speaker 3: who has a college degree in hand after going to
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  Speaker 3: Boulder today to walk in the commencement ceremony there and
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  Speaker 3: rookie experiences. Jeff and Austin will want to try to
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  Speaker 3: dig into the wayback machine.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that makes any sense.
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  Speaker 3: We'll take a ride on the wayback machine to dig
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  Speaker 3: into the history of rookie experiences with these two.
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  Speaker 2: That makes more sense. Ten to Excel.
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube and Jaguars Happy Hours presented
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  Speaker 3: by Dreamfinders Homes, official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jeff Logoman,
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  Speaker 3: Austin Lane, Good afternoon, Hi.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff, what's happening.
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  Speaker 2: I know, what's up. How we doing? I'm doing great, man,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back. Thanks for having me that. It's been a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks. It's been a couple of weeks. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: back in fall effect. Yeah, we're back, baby.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of the Wayback Machine. I like the name
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  Speaker 4: of that, the way.
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  Speaker 2: Screwed it up.
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  Speaker 4: But you no, no, no, I like that because for
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  Speaker 4: you it's the really way back but easy, not that far.
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  Speaker 2: But it's all a state of mind. Yeah, it's all
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  Speaker 2: a state of mind. Man. But Jav, I want to
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  Speaker 2: ask you, because you mentioned, you know, getting whacked right
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  Speaker 2: from when you get released, what is it? What is
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  Speaker 2: like the official terminology when somebody gets like go from
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  Speaker 2: her team, Because I've been I've been whacked before, like
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  Speaker 2: I've had on Twitter it's aid Austinland whacked from the
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  Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, like like I'm in the mafia. But then
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  Speaker 2: also I've been terminated before, which I thought sounded kind
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  Speaker 2: of cool, Like what's the official Neither one of them
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  Speaker 2: is cool. I don't well, I mean it's not cool,
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  Speaker 2: but it sounds better than you know, getting cut or
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  Speaker 2: getting released released is if you're a first off.
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  Speaker 4: Let me just say this, your lack of sensitivity using
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  Speaker 4: the term whacked is kind of I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, football players are people.
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  Speaker 3: You're eleven million guaranteed dollars. I think you'll be okay, Sure, sure,
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  Speaker 3: I think so.
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  Speaker 4: The money makes it okay, I think it does. Money
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  Speaker 4: has feelings too.
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  Speaker 3: It has no feelings, zero feelings.
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  Speaker 2: You can be.
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  Speaker 3: Released if you're a veteran with the amount of service
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  Speaker 3: time could be immediately eligible to sign with another team.
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  Speaker 3: If you're waved, you have not reached that threshold yet
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  Speaker 3: and you go through the waiver process claim terminated, claimed off.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a true. There's only the
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  Speaker 3: two that was the organization for you. Who knows what
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  Speaker 3: they're doing.
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  Speaker 4: You know when I was playing, Yeah, you might have
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  Speaker 4: just terminated your contract and you said get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds good. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a kind of an interesting thing, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I think everybody was thinking that Gabe was going to
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  Speaker 4: kind of make it at least maybe another year, just
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  Speaker 4: because of the guaranteed money that he had. But with
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  Speaker 4: the post June one designation, that makes, you know, that
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  Speaker 4: kind of a thing, a possibility of just basically stomaching
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  Speaker 4: the money, bite it and eat it and then move on.
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  Speaker 3: And with that designation they can split that dead cap
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  Speaker 3: money over the next two years. It's five point three
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  Speaker 3: billion this.
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  Speaker 4: Year, fourteen and a half or so next year. You know,
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  Speaker 4: the crazy thing. And Austin probably doesn't even remember this.
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  Speaker 4: They used to actually have to wait until June one
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  Speaker 4: to release a player, and then they are were like, finally,
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  Speaker 4: everybody was like, why in the hell are we waiting
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  Speaker 4: until June one to cut some guys. Let's just say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: post June one designation to spread the hit out over
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  Speaker 4: the two years, to let the players catch on of course,
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  Speaker 4: and go with the team. And finally somebody had some
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  Speaker 4: common sense.
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  Speaker 2: It is common. It was stupid.
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  Speaker 4: Beforehand when you could cut a player and you had
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  Speaker 4: to wait until so there's a lot of guys that
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  Speaker 4: were like, you know, being kind of held away from
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  Speaker 4: the team and saying we're told that, look, we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: cut you June first, and the players twiddling his thumb hurt,
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  Speaker 4: can't do anything yeah, you know, it's it's a bad situation.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm glad the league kind of changed the I
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  Speaker 4: guess you could say the rule book, so to speak,
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  Speaker 4: to designate a post June one cut.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when we talk about Gabe Davis, obviously you
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  Speaker 2: know he went down the depth chart a little bit
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  Speaker 2: when Travis Hunter was drafted. But I was a little
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  Speaker 2: surprised because we have seen the good Gabe Davis when
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  Speaker 2: he played in Buffalo, Like, we know what he's capable of.
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  Speaker 2: I was a little surprised think him at least a
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  Speaker 2: chance to kind of prove himself a little bit in training.
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  Speaker 2: Can I wonder too, if.
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  Speaker 4: The is the injury. I think is that you know,
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  Speaker 4: look if if he was, if he were healthy, and
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  Speaker 4: the team is like, okay, look he's healthy. Now he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna work his way kind of and get back and
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  Speaker 4: being right and improve upon last year. I think that
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  Speaker 4: it would have been a possibility. But now you're just
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  Speaker 4: trying to get back to the level where you were
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  Speaker 4: at and perform at from a health standpoint, so you're
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  Speaker 4: not really working to improve so to speed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. Well, keep in mind too,
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  Speaker 2: I mean his game is predicated off of speed, right,
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  Speaker 2: It's that first step and everything. He's not necessarily a
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  Speaker 2: possession receiver. This guy's more of a burner than anything.
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  Speaker 4: That's the one thing about Gabe I disagree. He's not
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  Speaker 4: a burner. And if you would if you looked at
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  Speaker 4: Gabe and you looked at his game, his forty time,
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  Speaker 4: I think at best was like a four high four
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  Speaker 4: five four six, something like that. But he had the
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  Speaker 4: appearance that he was fast because he was crafty.
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  Speaker 2: He's always open, really crafty, did a really.
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  Speaker 4: Good job of gaining separations, separation vertically and if you
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  Speaker 4: look at his yards per catch, you first thought is
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  Speaker 4: guy's got speed right, correct, But he really didn't have
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  Speaker 4: timed fast speed. But he had a craftiness about him.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, and I think there was some questions
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  Speaker 4: about how well he fit in the locker room last year.
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  Speaker 4: And I get along with Gabe Gray, but I think
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  Speaker 4: that there were some questions about that. And then you
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  Speaker 4: add the injury on top of that, and then you're
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  Speaker 4: moving forward with a new regime, you've got a new room.
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  Speaker 4: I think sometimes teams have a tendency say, hey, look,
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  Speaker 4: let's just let everybody get a fresh start.
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  Speaker 3: Ten games away, twenty catches, two hundred and thirty nine yards,
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  Speaker 3: two touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Where does this rank in like all time free agent
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  Speaker 3: disappointments in JAG's history, There's been some, There's been something
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  Speaker 3: in Austin. You got one in mind or or do
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  Speaker 3: you want.
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  Speaker 2: To go there?
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  Speaker 4: There's there's been There's been one that's been worse.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember Laura Robinson, Laarn Robinson. Maybe no,
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  Speaker 2: it's not it similar. I think maybe in the Trent
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  Speaker 2: Balky era that that might have been the worst one
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  Speaker 2: in terms of free agent signing is Gabe Davis. I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to think of another one that Douglas.
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  Speaker 4: We paid a guy I'm trying to remember. We paid
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  Speaker 4: a guy like a ton of guaranteed money nobody else
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  Speaker 4: really wanted on me. Came here and he stopped ago.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think a lot of people say Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Ross from uh but I think we had to watch
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  Speaker 2: the Olympics on the big screen. His wife. But listen,
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  Speaker 2: I love Aeron to death, man like that was one
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  Speaker 2: of my dudes. But I remember that the exit quote
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  Speaker 2: was he was just on vacation in Jacksonville and that
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  Speaker 2: rubbed rightfully.
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  Speaker 4: So somebody I'll think of it here in a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: I'll have to maybe go back and look. But the
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  Speaker 4: great thing about Aaron Ross was is that I remember
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  Speaker 4: doing televisihows we'd have his wife, yeah, benefit and all that.
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  Speaker 4: We got to talk a little Olympics, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: and she was fantastic. She was a fantastic lady. Great interview.
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  Speaker 4: I think that was when it was not even the
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  Speaker 4: new boards yet. This was like the old board. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's right, to watch it, that's all. That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 4: My gosh, but god, I'm trying to remember the name
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  Speaker 4: of the wide receiver that we paid and it was
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  Speaker 4: just like the worst. It was one of the worst
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  Speaker 4: free agent signings in Jaguars history. And this is an
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  Speaker 4: oldbody that remembers.
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  Speaker 2: This is an older guy.
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  Speaker 4: He was an older guy that came here and did nothing.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have to get back to this.
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  Speaker 4: We paid him up and paid him up a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of years.
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  Speaker 3: To what happens in free agency. You paid big money
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  Speaker 3: for a reason. It was big money for them.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, you know nowadays, I mean everything, just everything, Dwarves,
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  Speaker 4: you know what happened, you know, ten years ago.
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  Speaker 3: We're attention Excel Jaguars at Common Jaguars YouTube. It's Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: Happy Hour. So with Gabe Davis now gone, let's take
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  Speaker 3: a closer look at this wide receiver room. Brian Thomas Jr.
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  Speaker 3: You might have heard of him. Yeah, he's pretty good, decent.
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  Speaker 3: Jommy Brown brought in free agency. We'll see he's got
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  Speaker 3: a lot to prove he does. Travis Hunter hasn't put
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  Speaker 3: on a helmet yet, he'll do that tomorrow. And Parker Washington.
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  Speaker 3: There's those are the top four.
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  Speaker 4: I'd say there's a longer list, certainly, but that's the
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  Speaker 4: room right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think of this? So? I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a very intriguing room for this main reason. I
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  Speaker 2: think when you look at wide receiver rooms usually let's
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  Speaker 2: take Tampa Bay for example. You see a guy like
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  Speaker 2: Mike Evans. You know where Mike Evans is gonna play.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna be on the outside, he's gonna be getting
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  Speaker 2: the jump balls, go through the goal routes like you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's a he's a big play receiver. A guy like
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  Speaker 2: Chris Godwin, Okay, more in the slot using his speed,
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  Speaker 2: getting open, using his route running ability. When I see
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  Speaker 2: guys like Brian Thomas Junior how he was utilized last year.
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  Speaker 2: When I see guys like Travis Hunter, who and Jeff
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  Speaker 2: talking about this many times. He's so fluid in his
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  Speaker 2: route running. You can set these guys up in a
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  Speaker 2: lot of spots, Like Brian Thomas Junior can play the slot,
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  Speaker 2: Travis Hunter can play the slot. So when you have
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  Speaker 2: those guys being interchangeable, that makes it hell on the defense.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what I'm excited about, is where exactly are
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  Speaker 2: they gonna line up and what are these packages going
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  Speaker 2: to look like.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get what we kept hearing in the last regime
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  Speaker 4: with that group too. It didn't quite work out like
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  Speaker 4: that with all the injuries though. Longs to that last group, well,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and those happen, but typically you can avoid
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  Speaker 4: those injury conversations if you stay a little bit younger.
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  Speaker 4: When you start to go a little bit older, then
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, some of those things start to
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  Speaker 4: creep up.
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  Speaker 2: You don't get healthier when you get older.
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  Speaker 4: Now, it's just part of the deal, right, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a tough enough job as it is
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  Speaker 4: when you're young, but then you get a little bit older.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: But father times undefeated, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And the one thing that I appreciate greatly about the
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  Speaker 4: new regime, and because I'm a huge fan of the draft,
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  Speaker 4: when I say a huge fan, that that's where you
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  Speaker 4: got to build your franchise from, I mean, that's where
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  Speaker 4: the lifeblood of every franchise. And I've used that quote
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  Speaker 4: many times through the years. The lifeblood of a franchise
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  Speaker 4: is fulfilled through the draft. And if you don't do
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  Speaker 4: it through the draft, then you're not very good, and
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  Speaker 4: then you have to continue to dabble into free agency
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  Speaker 4: to spend money to make up for your short cut
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  Speaker 4: means of not drafting very well. And from the moment
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  Speaker 4: that this new regime took over, the idea was we're
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  Speaker 4: going to build through the draft. And look, they participated
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  Speaker 4: in free agency, but the guaranteed money of almost the
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  Speaker 4: entire free agent class equaled I think the guaranteed money
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  Speaker 4: of two free agents from last year alone. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: mean it was ridiculous the amount of money that they
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  Speaker 4: paid last year.
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  Speaker 3: And it felt like the previous regime was kind of
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  Speaker 3: on that same idea track a draft and supplement free
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  Speaker 3: agency until last year. No, they kind of jumped off
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  Speaker 3: the deep end and free agency.
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  Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think that they look they were they were free agent
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  Speaker 4: players from the very get go, and then they continued
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  Speaker 4: to be free agent players because they weren't drafting well enough,
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  Speaker 4: you know. And then at something they reached a certain
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  Speaker 4: point where they were like, well, we got it on
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  Speaker 4: board better, you know, which means we need to train
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  Speaker 4: them bent, you know, which I couldn't believe was said
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  Speaker 4: last year at this time because it's basically point the
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  Speaker 4: finger at the coaching staff, basically saying, boy, you really
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  Speaker 4: did a terrible job of assimilating the rookie class into
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  Speaker 4: the football team last year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then and then the head coach kind of I
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  Speaker 4: fuild the same comments, and I'm going, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 4: at some point, it's not about the onboarding process. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: it's about the selection process of getting the right player
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  Speaker 4: in okay, and not focusing on oh traits, And maybe
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  Speaker 4: let's focus in on a little bit of productivity, correct, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: or maybe both.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna come back in a little bit and we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna get into your both of your onboarding processes.
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  Speaker 2: When you guys were playing how about that. I mean
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  Speaker 2: I probably have to tailored for the show a little
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  Speaker 2: bit because I probably wouldn't tell Yeah, yeah, I can
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  Speaker 2: do different time. Yeah for sure to excel.
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  Speaker 4: You got the name?
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  Speaker 2: What you got?
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  Speaker 5: Jerry Porter? Oh yeah, okay, yeah, it's been a minute.
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  Speaker 5: That has been a minute. I had to do the
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  Speaker 5: old research now Google. I think I kept looking and
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  Speaker 5: so he was, he was signed.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly what year it was, but I'll find out all
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  Speaker 4: the details.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he was making back then.
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  Speaker 4: And here's what qualifies him as the worst JP. We
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  Speaker 4: gotta go money and quality of the guy.
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  Speaker 3: Well, okay, okay, we were on ten to NXXL, Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube's really conclusion of that when we
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  Speaker 3: come back. Also, Travis Hunter graduating today, but what to
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  Speaker 3: expect from him this weekend at Rookie Mini Camp. That's
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  Speaker 3: next on Jaguars Happy Hour. Welcome back at Jaguars Happy
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  Speaker 3: Hour on this Thursday, and Jaguars Football is presented by
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  Speaker 3: Fresh from Florida. It's Always in Season, JP, Shadrick, Jeff
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  Speaker 3: Blog and Austin.
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  Speaker 2: Lane in with us Today.
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  Speaker 3: We're at the Houndai studios of the Miller Electric Center
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  Speaker 3: of Beehive of activity this week.
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  Speaker 2: Phase two of the offseason programs. Here. The rookies are
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  Speaker 2: arriving today.
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  Speaker 3: They'll be on the field tomorrow and Saturday for rookie
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  Speaker 3: Mini camp, and here we are.
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  Speaker 4: Don't forget about the excavators.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the construction outside and all that going on.
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking. I mean, I don't know how exactly how
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  Speaker 4: many excavators are out there, but man, they're digging some
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  Speaker 4: some hole digging around the state too, doing the uh
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  Speaker 4: this part of the off season, they're actually doing some
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  Speaker 4: construction on the anchors for the roof structure that the
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  Speaker 4: new stadium will have.
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  Speaker 2: How about that?
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  Speaker 4: So I think that's the main focal point, or one
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  Speaker 4: of the main focal points of what's happening with the
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  Speaker 4: stadium build at this point. I mean, Jeff, are you
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  Speaker 4: are you up there like helping them build?
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  Speaker 2: How do you know about stuff? Man? Some of the
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  Speaker 2: connections there were in the hard hatt.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you Chad Johnson for kind of giving me the
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  Speaker 4: rundown and we'll come back, is what's going to be happening.
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  Speaker 2: Cool. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: They're also working on the rookies this weekend, and we
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  Speaker 3: mentioned the rookies are in today physicals meetings today, but
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  Speaker 3: Travis Hunter not one of those. He'll be here probably
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  Speaker 3: late tonight because he walked to the commencement ceremony at
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  Speaker 3: the University of Colorado today and Kudos is a video
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  Speaker 3: out on his social media with him and some of
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  Speaker 3: his friends and teammates all graduating together and uh anthropology
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  Speaker 3: degree logs from Colorado. And so he'll be here and
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  Speaker 3: should be on the field tomorrow and Saturday certainly when
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  Speaker 3: it's open to the public and we'll get a chance
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  Speaker 3: to see Travis Hunter. I got two questions for we're
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  Speaker 3: going to go this way with it. What do you
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  Speaker 3: want to see from him this weekend? What do you
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  Speaker 3: really need to see from him this weekend? There's two
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  Speaker 3: different things.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: I'll start with number one, staying healthy, and that goes
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: for all the rookies because the rookie mini camp is
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: not really and I'm not trying to minimize it, but
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: it's not that important in the grand scheme of things.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: This is what you want what you need to see?
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Stay healthy? Yes, what do you want to see? It's
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: as both to me, you know, keep everybody healthy, and
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: you're just trying to indoctrinate these rookies into the program
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: so that when they get onto the field with the veterans,
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: they're not so lost. You know. They kind of got
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: an idea of where to go, how to go, and
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: what to go, you know what I mean?
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those parts, where's lunch room all? So when
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: it's for me, obviously injuries stay healthy number one, But
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: also like, obviously this guy's be playing wide receiver and cornerback, right.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I think at wide receiver he's gonna be just fine. Like,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: if you're a rookie wide receiver taken in the top five,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: top ten, you're probably gonna have a pretty good rookie year, right.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I think the coming from college to the pro game,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: it can translate pretty well, and he's got the skill
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: set to have a successful rookie year as a wide receiver.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's one of the hardest positions to come
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: from college to the pros and playing cornerback. The speed's different,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: the route running is different. You gotta be crisp. I'm
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: really curious to see just him playing a little defense
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: of how you tack up against these wide receivers. Now
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: he won't be going against Brian Thomas Junior and and
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: other receivers like that, But like, I just kind of
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: want to reaffirm just you know, what he looks like
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: out of his stands, what he looks like when he's backpedaling,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: and whether it's zone coverage or men, how he can
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: hold up.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I got a feeling that, And you know, you don't
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: want to have too much of this, but everybody's gonna
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: be focusing in on how many snaps has he taken
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: on defense? How many snaps has he taken on offense?
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: And had a conversation with a general manager it was
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: after the drafting JP. I don't know if you happened
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: to see this or not, but I was asking James
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: that how important is it to make sure that you
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: just don't have the conversation about Travis always a bee,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: about what's.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: He gonna do, what's he gonna do, what's he gonna do?
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Because at some point you've just got to move past
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: that and just allow the athlete to play ball and
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: to stop answering questions himself. His teammates do not have
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: to answer those questions in themselves as well, because you
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: don't want to make it kind of a circus show
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: about what's he gonna do, how's he gonna do it,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: what's the ratio gonna be?
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: How many snaps is it gonna be?
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: You just want it to be kind of and I
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: know that it's still new and unique and eventually that
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: will kind of subside, but you just don't want to
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: give it any extra attention that you don't have to.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Well, and I'm gonna say this too, Jeff, like, you know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: we'll see what the ratio is. Obviously it's gonna be
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: a lot more on offense. But I hope that maybe
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: we won't be privileged to it as the media, but
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I hope the coaches in there know exec what the
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: plan is gonna be, because the last thing I want
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: to see is like, you know, maybe Campanelli, it's it's
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter of the game, games on the line, and
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: he's like, hey, can we get Travis Hunter back in
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: there please because we need him, and then you know,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: if it's the Cordinator's going no, we want them over.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: You know, like I don't want to go through that miscommunication.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: So I hope there's gonna be a clear set of
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: rules or a clear set of ratio where it's like
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: he can play this many on defense and this many
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: on an offense, and then as the season goes, you
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: can change it around. But I think I don't want
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: to see the cordinator's clashing because that could happen.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: And they said it's a fluid situation too, They're not
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: stuck right now on it. See how the offseason goes,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: build it up and see what he can handle, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: then adjust even if the season calls for it too.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: It could be depending on the opponent that week right
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: could be.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: But I mean, I like the approach that, look, let's uh,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: let's get him on offense, learn the finer details of
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: playing offense, plane wide receiver, you know, because the reality
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: is is that I'm not trying to say that defensive
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: players have it easy, but reality is is that playing
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: defense is not exactly rocket science compared to offense. Trying
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: to say, I'm just trying to say that's a little
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: bit easier in terms of the playbooks. Ours was always
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: a little thinner, exactly. It's a little bit a little
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: bit thinner. It's not quite as many adjustments on every
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: single play, even though you have adjustments on defense. But
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: playing defense is a little bit more of athleticism there's
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: still great technique and everything, but timing is a huge thing.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: On offense.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: You're not trying to get your timing down with the
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: safety or the other corners for the moment want to
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: be on the same page, but it's a little different.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: You know, you want to you want to work more
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: with your quarterback, and working more with the safety is
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: not as important in my opinion.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think on offense you have to
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: be a lot more cerebral, and I think that's reflected
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to also in offensive coaches. Offensive coaches seem to be
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: a little more calm, cool and collected. If you get
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: defensive corner out there, like, they're probably gonna be shouting
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: at you, right, because defense, I think is based more
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: off emotion and just seaball get ball. Offense, it's a
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: lot more okay, well this is the play, this is
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: the motion. What does the defense give you, Jack?
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I think Austin just literally took the offensive coaches and
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: put them in a box, and the defensive coaches and put.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Them in a Yeah.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: I heard that. That's the perfect stereotype offensive guys a
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: little more cool headed, cool collected.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: And it's funny that you bring that up because if
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: you sit there and you think about some of the
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: great coaches in history. I mean, I'm talking some of
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: the great ones. What boys are you putting them in
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Austin's box?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Listen? I had Amy Reid as a coach in Kansas
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: City and like the calm, cool, collected way way off
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: the side there for Andy Ree. And then I had
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz. It was a defensive guy, but.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Kind of hothead. Threw a punch of Kevin gobright, you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: defensive coach. It's a little different.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at Aaron Glenn right now in New York,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: right like he's kind of changing that whole by Aaron
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Rodgers and everything.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Right, I love that Jaguars Happy Hour into that. I
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: sell Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. All right, let's
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: let's get into the first thing.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Did you guys ever do wages real quick? Incredibly proud
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: that Travis Hunter walked, of course, which is you know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: which is amazing because there's a lot of guys that
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: come into the NFL that number one are not as
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: smart as Travis. He's incredibly smart, incredibly dedicated to be
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: able to get his degree on time and to be
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: able to take that walk, I mean, and that's so
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: important for all the young athletes that are.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Out there that may be listening.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: That's that's something that I mean, I hold when I
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: when I sit there and I think of Travis Hunter
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: and the quality of guy. When you talk about intangibly rich,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: that right there is an example of a guy being
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: intangibly rich.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I just wanted to point that out. Love it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Do you guys remember your first rookie or your rookie
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: minnie camp? We didn't have rookie yes, so it was
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: with the team. Yeah, typically you had, you know for
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: a long time JP. It was the mandatory mini camp
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: for the team. Happened right after the draft, soon after
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: the draft.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: And so that was my like my first experience and
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: I'll never forget, you know. I go to New York
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: and I didn't know where in the hell I was
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: going driving, which is not a good place to learn
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: where to go the first time going to New York, right,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: So trying to get there was kind of an adventure.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: I got there and then when I walked into the
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: locker room and I was like, jeese, these guys are
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: like grown men. And they're older and like some of
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: them are old enough.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: To be my dad.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I was twenty one. Yeah right, yeah, I was twenty
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: one years old. You and I walk into the locker room.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: It's got Pat Pat Lahy or Kicker. I think he
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: was forty. Dan Alexander, our guard from LSU and all
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: he deals go. It's not only the word two words
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: he would say to a rookie, you know. And he
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: was like in year thirteen, you.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Know, and these guys are grown men.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, opening yeah, it's different. So and it ain't like
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: being in a college locker room anymore.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yours was similar, though mine was definitely similar.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: It was funny because our welcome to Jacksonville wasn't what
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I anticipated it to be. So we were staying at
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: the Extended Stay kind of off the south side and everything,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: and it was me Tyson A, Lulu, DAIJ, Kareem Scotti McGee,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and d Anthony Smith. And this is back when like
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: we didn't have like uber really right, So you have
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: to use a taxi cab, so we call it taxi.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: We want to go like by the Saint John's Town
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Center and just kind of check everything out, right, taxi
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: gab guy comes to pick us up. It's a van.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: We all fit in. I'm sitting shotgun guys are behind
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: me and like, keep in mind, I'm a big dude
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: at the time, Anthony Smith is a pretty big dude.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Tyson's big dude. But the guy didn't make the connection
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: of the Louisiana Tech that's what. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: think he's a third round pick, defensive tack, defensive tax.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: So we were all Senior Bowl team teammate. It's Tyson,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: d Anthony and myself while play in the North team
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: in the Senior Bowl. So anyway, so we're getting in
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: the cab and we're like, all right, this is Jacksonville's
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: cool and the text driver goes, hey, you guys follow football,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, a little bit, a little bit,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: And keep in mind this was the Tim Tebow year
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and a lot of Jaguars fans wanted Tim Tebow to
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: come to Jacksonville. So we looked to this text guy.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: He goes, I'll tell you what I should have got
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Tim Tebow this and he goes, we get this, stupid Tyson.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I came and pronounced this last night. And he's sitting
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: in the back seat. And the best part is because
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: you know me, man, I'm kind of I'm a little
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: bit of smart ass, right, so I'm instigating. I go, yeah,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I heard Tyson a whole kind of sucks. What's what?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: And Tyson if you know, you know, you know, Tyson
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: is the quietest, most assaulted other dude ever. So Tyson's
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: just and back there just taking it from this guy,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: not saying anything, just kind of have a smirks on
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: his face. And this guy's like, I can't believe we
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: got Tyson. Aluila, what a waste of a pick. So
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: that was our well, that was literally our first night
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, like for rookies, and that was our welcome
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: to Jacksonville moment.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: By the way, By the way, the first time in Austin,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: probably you probably thought the same thing the first time
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: I ever laid eyes on Tyson Ala Walla, I went,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: my god, this guy's big boned. Yes, I'm talking knees
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: like this, calves like this for people on radio, I'm.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Making calves toasters.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: It's ridiculous, like like I'm talking twelve by twelve posts.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like even if it wasn't working out football, he's
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: just gonna be that.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Big broadcast, big dude man and an edge that could used.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: He's used a lot by scouts. His heavy hands, Tyson
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Aluila was the definition of heavy handed. Like the his
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: his punch, his pop, it was just different.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: He was kind of wild criticized he was for the
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Jaguars taking him at that spot. But I can tell
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: you this, Tyson Aliwalu had a fantastic career. Correct it
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: was a damn good football player, and when you look
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: at it in hindsight, I don't think there's any doubt
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: that Tyson's career was worth where he was picked.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I mean he played up until what I think two
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: years ago.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: Yittsburgh exactly and Detroit, which was a perfect fit of
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: course for Tyson to go to Pittsburgh for that body
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: type and the type of player that he was.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: You almost wish that he had played in that Pittsburgh
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Steelers three four style of doingfense the.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Beginning exactly, cause I think with Tyson here and Jacksonville,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: people got so infatuated with like the quarterback sack numbers
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: and things like that, but like what people didn't see
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: was his ability take on double teams, his his ability
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: to cause chaos in the backfield because that doesn't pop
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: up on the box score, right, it's all about quarterback,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: you know, sacks and tackles for loss. But when you
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: followed him to Pittsburgh and you see what he's able
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: to do there, I mean, they had one of the
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: best defenses in the league and it's stemmed from him
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: playing that Nos technique and just causing chaos taking on
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: double teams.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Imagine had he not hurt his knee in the Oklahoma
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: drill the first day.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Which was I mean, gets off the plane because what
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: do we do?
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: What are we doing Oklahoma drill in the first day
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: before I worked here right the plane and literally signs
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: his contract and coach del Rio goes, all right, Oklahoma,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Joe for Tyson, I'm.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Trying to remember most people be may rest in peace.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Benny was the one guy he did not want to
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: go against Oklahoma, which, by the way, to the NFL's yeah,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: that'll wake you up.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: You'll talk about epic matchup though, oh yeah, yeah, know, yeah,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I mean Vince.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Tyson, that was the main car.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: I totally understand del Rio's kind of thought process there
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: is that you know, let's set the tempo sure with
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: two guys that are I mean, I'm talking type a
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: cut from a difficult dude to get after it to
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: set the tempo for camp, and I get it. But
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: at the same token, I was just I remember going.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's a little to do this.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: And then when Tyson hurt his knee, I was.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Like, ah, yeah, I don't know what.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Was worse Tyson ala Waalu pertinently in the first contact
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: drill in camp, or the first round pick out of
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Florida outside Jonte Fowler in rookie camp, totally getting fatigued
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: because they were trying to wear them out. In this
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: rookie mini camp there was eleven on eleven stuff too
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: going on and he and I was sitting there watching
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: him and I'm going, he's fatigued. I think he's ready
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: for all this, locked by some try out right tackle
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: while he was a land and it was just I
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: thought it was like a fatigue injury sure, And I'm
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: just going, he's not or not?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: What are you doing?
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: I mean they're trying to stress the rookies to let
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: them know when you come back, you gotta be ready.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: And then shag and I'm you know so, And then
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: after that everybody's like, wait a minute, maybe we ought
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: to have this acclamation period to allow players to work
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: their way into it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, we'll come back in a moment. The Jaguars have
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: nine traft picks. They'll also have what twenty two undrafted players.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Some something got good money.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: The question will be would you rather be a seventh
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: round pick or an undrafted free agent?
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: We'll get to that when we come back. This is
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 29:31
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• 29:31
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• 29:56
  Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour from the Honday Studios, Miller Electric Center,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: JP Shadwick, Jeff Blogham in Austin Lane with us today
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: on ten ten XLAM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: We're in the.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Break talking more about rookie memories, if you will, or
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: infamous moments that might have happened in Jaguars rookie history.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: But we left out the rookie dinner stuff.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I mean that, yeah, you know that might be later
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: in the summer spring, if they even do much of
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: that anymore.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Who knows with some of the rules these days.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: But you know, the question going to break was speaking
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: of money, right, would you rather be a seventh round
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: draft pick of the Jaguars with slotted money, nothing guaranteed,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: or an undrafted free agent where you have teams maybe
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: competing for your services and offering different signing bonuses.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: I think it's a great question because you know, there's
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: it's kind of twofold. If you're an undrafted guy, you
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: can kind of pick your place of where you're gonna
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: go to help give you the best opportunity of having
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: a job once September rolls around. If you're drafted by
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: a team that's stacked at your position, it's not helping
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: you out a whole lot. So and then a lot
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: of times, if you're highly solid after undrafted guy, you're
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: guaranteed money is better than any other guys that got
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: drafted in the seventh round.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: But then again, if you get drafted, you can always
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: say I got drafted in the.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Right said yeah, yeah, I mean if it's me, like
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: there's something you said, yes, I'm an NFL draft pick,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: something that goes into that. But at the same time,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: do I want to be a draft pick or do
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I want to have longevity? And I think when we
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: talk about longevity, if you can kind of pick and
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: choose where you want to go based off of depth,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: based off of what the situation is, you probably a
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: better shot of making said team. So I would almost
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: lean towards me, an undrafted guy, maybe having a little
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: bit of a bidding war for me getting some of
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: that guaranteed money that hopefully making the team to start
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: the season off.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's kind of interesting too from a contract standpoint.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: You know, seventh round pick is getting a contract that's
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: around four years. That's around about four million dollars, which
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: is essentially that's the minimum salaries of the NFL combined
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: over the course of four years. And I was telling
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: you guys during the break, it's been some inflation.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: It's a litle bit different, you know.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: So back in nineteen eighty nine, okay, in the way
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: back machine. Here we go. Okay, we're going back in
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: the way back machine. My first contract as the fourteenth
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: overall pick in the draft was four years, two point
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: one million dollars, big money. So guys today are making
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: more at minimum in four years than I was making
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: it as a first round pick. Now, compare that to
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: the first overall pick of the draft was expected to
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: for a contract that's probably in the range of like
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: forty three to forty four million. That's significantly different. So
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: would you rather be drafted I'd rather be drafted in
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: the first round nowadays? It's okay, right, then in the
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: first round back in you know, nineteen eighty nine, sure,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: and definitely would rather be drafted in the first round
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: than be an undrafted guy and pick your perfect spot.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how about you.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Know what's also helped later round draft picks undrafted guys
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: is the expansion of the practice squad too. It's not
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I mean comparatively to a contract, it's not that kind
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: of money. However, if you have two years or fewer,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: you're getting paid thirteen thousand dollars a week if you're
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: in the practice squad, at least you're around. If you've
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: done the right things in camp. They like you enough.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: You can be around and maybe you get pulled up.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: You don't know how the games go later in the year,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: so to be around that says something if you can manage.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: What you're doing in training.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Well, when the practice squads first came out, the pay
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: wasn't even anywhere close to what it is now. It
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: was like four grand a week or something like that.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Three grand a week, you know, and I remember room
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: and board, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm talking. Guys were
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: like leaving the cafeteria with the go boxes. Didn't have
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: to buy food.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Once they left the facility.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: But I mean, I think paragraph five salary back when
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: you know, when I first started, I mean, the minimums
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: were like like one hundred eighty ninety grand.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: It's significantly different obviously nowadays, and it should be. I mean,
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: the growth of the NFL has been just just amazing
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: over the last thirty forty years. Incredible.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: You have some vets that can be on there too now.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: So their minimum weekly salary this year seventeen to five
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: with a maximum of twenty two. So yeah, you're on
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: there for a few weeks and then something happens an injury,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: and it's just given kind opportunities stick around.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: For practice a season long. You're not starving pretty good money. Yeah,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I wish I was around when I was playing. So
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a practice squad, you know, you're
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: going on the practice squad, a little bit in the
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: extra money here and there, veteran zero.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: And the one thing that I do like too is
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: that you know, when the practice squad was first, the
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: whole idea was conceived, contrived, whatever you want to call it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: It was all about the young guys. So now you
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: can be a veteran guy and be on the practice squad,
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: which you know, look, you get activated off of the
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: practice squad, then seventeen to five all of a sudden
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: turns into significantly more because of your per week pay
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: is based off of about a million, which is the
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: minimum for you know, best veteran that's been in the
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: league for a number of years. So it's a big difference.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: So let's come back in a moment and we'll get
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: our final thoughts with rookie mini caamp coming.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Up the next two days. Big yeah.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: I think allowed to wear helmets during the Rocky minicamp.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I think they are the helmets are okay, shelves or not.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: It's acclimatum. Okay, We're acclimated. We're achamening.
• 36:12
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• 36:14
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• 36:25
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• 36:38
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• 36:40
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• 36:43
  Speaker 2: got a seasoned assist yet from Brett Martin. Oh, but
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you having me back. Man. How's the show
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: going over there? Show's going on, Yeah, show's going good.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: We're starting to get to more of like the creative
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: time than sports radio now because you know, football is
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: starting to be able to well, we got the training
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: camp coming up this but like the dead dead zone
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Just do me this favor ye as
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: a talk show host, I guess that's what. Yeah, don't
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: do the mount rushmore discussion on anything. We're gonna hate that.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: We hope power rankings today so it's all good. Yeah,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore, what is this amateur or what do we
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: do with power rankings? That was big and timely. Yeah yeah,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: actually yeah, Jeff uh yeah.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: You guys so so wanted to get back to this
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: the rookie contract thing because we were having that conversation
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: would you rather be drafted or would you rather end
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: up being a rookie undrafted free agent financially?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Like what's the better?
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: So I was looking and the Jaguars have one of
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: the one of the top guys in the league, Danny
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Strigau from University of Minnesota's defensive end. Watch the film
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: on the power guy set to the Edge. Good got
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: a ways to go as a pass rusher, but he
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: got the twelfth most money guaranteed need money out of
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: any undrafted rookie free agent in the league in the league,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: and that was two hundred and this is a two
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty four thousand dollars. The guy at the top,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Ben Chuck Wooma from the Buccaneers. I don't know what
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: position I'm assuming maybe defensive end. Maybe you can find
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: that JP Chuck Chuck Chukwuma three hundred grand. That was
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: the highest amount of any undrafted free agent offensive lineman.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, now is there a cap? Like? How does that
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: work for undrafted?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: I think there is a cab for all of that
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: pool and I don't know exactly how they configure that,
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: but they do have a pool for that. The Jaguars
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: also had an offensive lineman from Penn State Wormley. They
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: paid him over one hundred thousand dollars, which obviously is
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: a position of need for the Jaguars. And but yeah,
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: I mean that's I mean to be a highly desirable
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: undrafted guy. I mean, Austin, what were you fIF How
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: was a fifth round pick? And my like my signing
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: bonus when I signed, it was like one fifty four.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: So I mean, these guys right here surpassed and here's
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: a fifth round pick.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget it because they actually caught me at
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: check and I lost in the airport and I went
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: back to Wisconsin. So I had to go back and
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: get my check from the airport. Oh you found it,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: though I thought it was this between the seats were good.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: It's good. An actual pay. Probably i'd probably get a
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: direct depositive next time. You know what I'm saying. But
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I had a payper check and then I had to
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: go back. I never forget when.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: When I went to New York and I got my
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: signing modist. Yeah, and god rest is soul. Billy Hampton Junior,
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Okay was the assistant equipment manager. The head guy was
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Bill Hampton Senior, legendary from even going back to the
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Joe Namath days. He'd been there. And it was a
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: family affair. So you had Bill Hampton Senior was the
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: head equipment guy. Bill Hampton Junior was the assistant guy.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: And then you had the family work in the entire
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: clubhouse as well. Clay was the assistant equipment manager, the
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: assistant and then Derek was like an equipment intern, the
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: whole family. And then on the weekends they had a
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: couple brothers, I think Brian that worked the visiting locker rooms. Anyway,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: so my signing bonus check, you know, go there and
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: sign my contract, go into training camp, and I was
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: hold out because they wouldn't give me a fair market deal.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Get my signing bonus. We agree, and all of a
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: sudden here comes Bill Hampton Junior and he's pushing. Remember
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: the shoulder pads cart of course, So for people that
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: don't know, there's these kind of trolleys that they put
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: the equipment bags on for all the players and in
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: those bags helmets, shoulder pads, all the equipment of player
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: needs to play a game. And so these big trolley
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: things and he's Billy's pushing and he's like, oh and
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: there's nothing on it but one envelope.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Pushing it in the locker room.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: So he's acting like he's pushing. Okay, the Rock of
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: God comes in an equipment room and then it goes
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: to my locker and.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I'm going, what the hell was going on?
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: You know, lockman, here's your signing motus checks.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Jeff, was the first thing that you bought
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: because everyone's got a vehicle, which you get nineteen eighty
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: nine Ford Bronco eighty hour edish. There you go.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: I had to have, said a wheel as I had
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: to get for me vacation.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: It was yours.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: My first thing I bought was a new pair of vans,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: and then I got a cannons.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: By the way, for people that don't know her shoes shoes,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: yeah yeah, yeah, not literally an a van he didn't
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: buy a pair of vehicles.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: No, And then I bought a Cadillac ext truck with
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: twenty six inch rims. It was all black, it was
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: black on black. And then went through a drive through.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: And then literally the first day I had the rims,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: went through a drive through scrape the rims up. Had
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: to get some new rims. So that lasted a lasted
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: twenty four hours with those rims.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't have any fancy rims all night.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I got fair stock. This smart way to do it,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: stock stock rims. Yeah, what what what you're lacking for?
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Like the exterior, Yeah, in the interior with Eddie Bauer editions,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: comfortable sitting right.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: I did put a sound system in it.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: There you go, Yeah, there you go. I like my
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: music still like a little bit.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Nowadays I just put you know, nowadays you can
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: just get one of those blue tooth speakers and put
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: in there. That's all you need. But back then, you know,
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: I had the bazooka two, you know, you know, the
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: whole whole nine yards, you know, it was like a
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: bazooka two was probably about a I don't know about
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: a six seven inch bazooka tube, right, behind the rear seat,
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: the very back a little bit.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I bet you had some sweet cassettes in your car.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Actually, uh, I think I had a CDs. I had
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: a ten of cartridge CD player in the consoles convenient. Yes,
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: some people like the trunk right, Yeah, it was. It
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: was a Sony ten disc cartridge CD player. And the
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: great thing is is that I had a home stereo
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: system that that car would fit. The same hole system
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: that interchangeable, so I could take my cartridges out and
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: then interchange.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: It, you know, from A to B A.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: But that pretty sweet.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: It's pretty sweet.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: And it was nice too. It was a dark blue
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: and tan. Of course, all the Eddie Bowers pretty much
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: were all teen. It was like the trim package and
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: then the inside had kind of that tan inside. Yeah,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: And it was a total dog. The engine was junk.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: They underpowered those for years. By the way, it sounds
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: like you're not over it, you know. I was very
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: disappointed of the power of that thing. And then finally
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: I got Chevy Tahoe when I came to Jacksonville in
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: ninety five, and that.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Was a great vehicle. That was a great one.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Still are Rookie Minni caamp This weekend on the field
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Friday and Saturday, we talked a lot about Travis Hunter.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: How about some of the other eight draft picks. Who
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: are you excited to see?
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: If you're not gonna be here here about watch highlights
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: of Travis Hunter is the star attraction, but there are
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: a lot of guys that can contribute in the draft
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: class year coming up.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna name is Caleb Ransaw just because when he
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: was drafted I kind of had some skeptical eyes a
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: little bit of what was the plan gonna be at cornerback?
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: But by my indications, he's gonna be playing safety. Sky's
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: extremely fast, He's gonna bring an interesting dynamic in terms
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: of coming downhill and laying the lumber, if you will.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: So I'm very curious to see what's he gonna look
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: like playing safety a little bit obviously the pads won't
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: be once you can't get the full effect, but just
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: does he look comfortable playing maybe a new spot flogs.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: Well, it's kind of hard for me to do this, okay,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: because I'm gonna pick a guy from my alma Maters
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Nemesis rival Virginia Tech, which, which by the way, I
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: did take an official visit to Virginia Tech.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: He went to Blacksburg.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: I did, which was pretty cool because I got to
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: meet Bruce Smith when he was still at Virginia Attack.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: That's how long ago this was.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: It was and was expected to be the number one
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: overall draft pick, which he was eventually, but the running
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: back out of Virginia Tech ba shul touting. I mean
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: to me, I want to see tooting because the speed
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: that he has is real, and when you're talking about
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: having a mini camp, which is essentially an underwear I
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: just want to feel his speed because the big guys
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: in the physicality you're not going to feel in a
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: rookie mini camp. But I want to feel his speed
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: because watching him on film, you can see it and
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: you can believe it, but I want to see it
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: in person and feel it in person.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Jacks drafted two offensive linemen, but in this setting, it's
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: probably gonna be tough to see much until training camp.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Really preseason games is when you're gonna see.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But that's kind of my point, you know, and
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: it's the It's not the underwear Olympics because that's the combine,
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: but you know, it's still kind of the underwear camp.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Duckwalking going to see for you know what I mean,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's crucial, you know, but like not that
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: entertaining to that to the untrained EyeT, but.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: But I'm looking forward to seeing those two guys just
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: how they look physically, right, you know, because walk off
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: the bus, let's see what they Yeah, that's the whole thing.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: To want to see what they look like when they
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: come off the bus. I totally want to see that,
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: you know. And the guy from from Southern cal I
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: think he's got a chance to develop and get bigger
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: and stronger and grow up even more and then have
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: a chance at being a legitimate starting caliber center. And
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: the kid mile Us out of West Virginia, by god, I.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Had to throw that in there.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: Because that was kind of a running joke at University
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: of Virginia and West Virginia. We used to have a
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: kind of a game every year with those guys, and
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: they had an offensive line the way back when that
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: was along the lines of his name was Wosnyack, and
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: Virginia had Jim Dombrowski. West Virginia had Wosneak. And both
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: of them are going to be these first round picks,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: which they eventually were. And so I want to see
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: this Miless guy because I mean, looking at him on film,
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: he's a big dude. Big dude played left tackle last year.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: I don't I want to see where they're gonna line
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: him up. Yeah, you know, not not so much to
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: see them physically in a practice, but I want to
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: see where they line him up in practice.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Saturday open to the public, but you got a register
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Jaguars dot com. There is a banner at the top
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: of the main page that'll take you where you need
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: to go to sign up for free tickets, and that
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: should be a packed house.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Did you sign up?
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I did? Okay, I'll be there. Did you you're going,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm going.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow is not open to correct That's what I didn't
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: ask you about tomorrow.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: That's about Saturday. You got a show to do in
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: the morning and then Saturday. Yeah.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll come right from the outdoor show right to
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  Speaker 4: the practice. The practice is like one. No, I know,
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  Speaker 4: I know that, but little time. I'm twitter my thumbs
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  Speaker 4: for a couple hours. But I'll come here and hang.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Probably I'll come here and hang out with you. That's
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: just what I want. My breakfast.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: You're gonna have a great You probably gonn have a
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: sub you'll stop with the way that's what you do,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: that's normally on the way home.
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  Speaker 2: JP. Any chance that we can talk them into getting
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: like a bus, actually pull on the field so we
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: can actually see them getting off the bus, because that's
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: that's a big thing, right you want to see it's
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: an intimidation fact exactly. So let's pull that bus on
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: the practice field. That's let him get off it. Let's
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: see what we got to work with, like that top
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: of the hill, let him run down the hill. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: But I like the off the bus thing. I think
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: we can sell that. It's a sponship opportunity right there.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: You got the money off. It's going to be mad
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: now I'm making money over here and not the other
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: show now.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Can come any time you want announced each one, you know,
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: coming off the bus and Travis gosh, she comes off
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: to dancing, you know, like you did?
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: You know, can you dance like that? J? I can dance,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: but not like that. Do you think Travis Hunter is
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: going to have some sort of like when it's the
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: first day of like regular training camp, will he show
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: up in some crazy way? Because I feel like he's
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: but I feel like we're talking about those Twitter numbers
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: up a little bit, or the stream numbers there.
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  Speaker 4: I don't I don't see him. I think he's more
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: of a organic generate, the numbers kind of guy.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Does he have to Brinks truck or anything like that.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: He's not going to be the Jalen Ramsey coming with.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: The Maybe if he's a little more established, maybe he
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: brings the boat to the new marina or something else.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: He actually was trying. I actually tried and inquired about
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: that back in the day. Could I bring the boat
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: to come to work and park over there and then
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: walk across the parking.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: They no, why there was no.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: They didn't have any marina over there at the years,
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: you know, because the only thing that was there I
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: think was the Jacksonville Fire and Rescue dogs that back
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: then there was. They didn't have anything built over there.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: But I was trying, like, heck, find a way to
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: take my boat from my house down at my old
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: place and then take it down town across a lot
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: to go to work.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: We'll see you Austin in what two weeks you'll see
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: when I see it? Yeah, yeah, I think two weeks
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: if you're coming Saturday or no. Sun's Son's got a
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: play a little championship.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: He let's go flyers. We'll see you two weeks. That's
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Austin Lane Logs.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see you when I see You'll see you in
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: a couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's Jeff Logerman. I'm J. P.
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  Speaker 3: Shaddicker. Thanks to Britt Reeber and Joe Fortunadowa. Thanks to
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  Speaker 3: you for listening and watching. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour.