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The Adventures of Ghost Face · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 6: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Nora.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Phillip.
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  Speaker 1: New York City. Or it may or may not be
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in Canada. One or the other. That is the
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  Speaker 1: Oddity Studios. We are back for another not exclusive club episode.
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  Speaker 1: We've decided because this is a big new release, so
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  Speaker 1: we could throw it out there and use this to
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  Speaker 1: let people know that we have a horror club and
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  Speaker 1: you should come and join is essentially where we're going
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  Speaker 1: with this. So this is for everyone to enjoy or
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  Speaker 1: be annoyed by, whichever. You may disagree with a lot
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  Speaker 1: of what we say. Who knows, but. If you like
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  Speaker 1: Patreon Horror Club and then you can have this every
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  Speaker 1: time we do one of these. See, that's why we're here.
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  Speaker 1: And like we normally do at the intro of all
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  Speaker 1: these Horror Club episodes, have you seen anything creepy lately?
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  Speaker 7: I have. I saw a movie called Resurrection, and it
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  Speaker 7: came out last year. It's Rebecca Hall and Tim Roth
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  Speaker 7: are the main two.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard about this. Yeah, I have not seen it.
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  Speaker 7: It was so good. It kind of starts off as
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  Speaker 7: a basic thriller of this woman left this guy 20
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  Speaker 7: years ago, moved to another place, and he finds her,
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  Speaker 7: and then it's like... you're kind of figuring out what
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  Speaker 7: happened between them, but then it just really goes off
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  Speaker 7: the rails towards the end. And it's like very gory
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  Speaker 7: and upsetting, but their performances are like so incredible that I.
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  Speaker 1: Keep hearing about this, like almost, um, like monologue that
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  Speaker 1: she gives to the camera. That's like amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: There's like, I think it's like eight minutes and it's
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  Speaker 7: one shot and it just stays on her as she
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  Speaker 7: tells the story about how they met and what happened
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  Speaker 7: and everything. And as I'm watching it, like, her eyes
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  Speaker 7: start welling up. And at the exact time a tear
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  Speaker 7: fell from her eye, a single tear fell from my eye.
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  Speaker 7: And I was like, oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: She is that good.
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  Speaker 7: Because it was so just, like, her acting and the
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  Speaker 7: things she was saying. And it was just like, oh,
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  Speaker 7: my God.
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  Speaker 2: I refuse to watch movies that give me the feels.
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  Speaker 1: I'll have none of that.
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  Speaker 7: I haven't seen.
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  Speaker 1: Prefer to be dead inside, thank you.
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  Speaker 7: I know she's in that movie, The Night House, but
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  Speaker 7: I haven't seen that one yet, although I've had it
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  Speaker 7: recommended to me. But just from this, I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 7: she's an incredible actress.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, holy cow. And he is really good. And
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  Speaker 1: Tim Roth, I mean, has always been amazing from day one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: He plays it very, like, casual, but it's like the
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  Speaker 7: undercurrent of the things he's doing. You're just like, whoa,
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  Speaker 7: I don't know. So, yeah, highly recommend that one. It
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  Speaker 7: was very impactful, I.
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  Speaker 1: Guess I will say.
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  Speaker 3: Nice. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: I might give it a shot, but you'll hear about
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  Speaker 2: it if it makes me cry.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a couple. I'll do a normal one, and
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  Speaker 1: I've got a ridiculous one I can throw in. If
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  Speaker 1: you've got one, I can throw in afterwards. This one
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  Speaker 1: I almost want to get out of the way now.
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  Speaker 1: Because if you are a normal Patreon subscriber type of person,
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  Speaker 1: you also get to help pick movies that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about on the Horror Club. And I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: no one picks this one. Because I kind of don't
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  Speaker 1: want to have to watch it again. So I figure
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  Speaker 1: if I get it out of the way now, nobody
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  Speaker 1: will have to assign it to us. But I have
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  Speaker 1: been because I'm just into horror movies forever. But there's
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  Speaker 1: so many roads, I've just kind of barely headed down.
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: one of which we've gotten into a little on the
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  Speaker 1: Horror Club, Jalo stuff. So I keep coming across movies,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, this looks like it's part of
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  Speaker 1: that genre. Let's pick this up. And I got one
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  Speaker 1: last year, and it was really good, and I'm fine
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  Speaker 1: with putting that one on the list. I won't go
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  Speaker 1: into that one now. I'm hoping someone chooses that one.
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  Speaker 1: But then I pick this one up, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I think I've heard the title before, because, again,
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  Speaker 1: they have crazy titles. But I was just like, don't
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  Speaker 1: know anything about it. Let's go ahead and watch this.
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  Speaker 1: I watched The Pajama Girl Case. pajama girl pajama with
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  Speaker 1: a y by the way p-y-j-a-m-a is that not how
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  Speaker 1: you spell pajama i don't know i don't spell pajamas
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  Speaker 1: much but it's so like after even pretty early on
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  Speaker 1: i was like you know i'm not really having fun
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  Speaker 1: i know it's like what year is it the 70s
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  Speaker 1: i'm assuming yeah 77 so i know it's the 70s
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  Speaker 1: in italy but Good God, this is misogynist.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, when you said 70s in Italy, I.
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  Speaker 1: Was just like, hold on tight. I mean, on the
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  Speaker 1: one hand, this girl is getting herself into trouble because
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  Speaker 1: for being 1977, she is a freewheeling gal. She is
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  Speaker 1: having at least three affairs that I know of in
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of this movie. So I'm like, I'm supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be sex positive to make a reference from later.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, really, I'm just like, girl, please settle
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  Speaker 1: it down. I think one of these guys is married.
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  Speaker 7: Come on.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to get yourself in trouble, which kind of happens.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, just that's too much. Again, I don't
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  Speaker 1: care if you're a girl or a guy. Quit having
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  Speaker 1: just leave it alone. Just to people that are screwing around.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it. I'm like, that seems like way
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  Speaker 1: too much trouble to me. I don't know. No, I've
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  Speaker 1: always kind of been of that mode. I've always been
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  Speaker 1: super monogamistic anyway. But but now I'm just like when
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  Speaker 1: people have like affairs and shit, I'm like, really?
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine putting up with one person, let alone
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  Speaker 1: putting up with another and having to go through the
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  Speaker 1: theatrics of hiding.
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  Speaker 2: Just logistically.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Just like, this is exhausting. And I morally
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  Speaker 1: have issues with it, but mostly it's exhausting. Please stop
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  Speaker 1: screwing around on each other. So that's just kind of
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  Speaker 1: my feeling in general. So I already kind of disagree
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  Speaker 1: with her, but then every guy in her life is
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  Speaker 1: an asshole. And then we get to... This is mostly
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  Speaker 1: why I wanted to throw it out there. I want
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  Speaker 1: to see if you guys think this is a good idea.
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  Speaker 1: For this case. Because it's also like an old cop.
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  Speaker 1: They always work in an old cop. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: times he's American for some reason. I don't know. But
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  Speaker 1: there's this old guy that comes out of retirement to
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  Speaker 1: help solve this pajama girl case.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently this is based on a true story.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping this part I'm about... Watching it, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even realize that. So I just brought it up and went,
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  Speaker 1: oh god, did this really happen in Italy? So... They
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  Speaker 1: find this girl on the beach. I'm not ruining anything.
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  Speaker 1: It's the first scene. Which, okay, while I'm nitpicking, because
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  Speaker 1: we're hopefully not going to do this movie, there's a
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  Speaker 1: girl walking on the beach in the beginning, like a
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  Speaker 1: little girl, and it's sunny out. Okay, so if you
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  Speaker 1: have an umbrella of some sort, that's the parasol idea
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  Speaker 1: to keep sun off of you. She's got one of
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  Speaker 1: those completely clear plastic umbrellas.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Just annoys the fuck out of me. I'm just like,
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  Speaker 1: what are you accomplishing, child? I know you're a small child,
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  Speaker 1: but somebody smack her upside the head and explain this
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  Speaker 1: is not doing anything for you. Okay, that rant aside.
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  Speaker 1: So then there's a dead body on the beach and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, her face is all jacked up. It's
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  Speaker 1: mostly just skull and burned up and messed up, but
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  Speaker 1: her body is still normal. So, yeah, gross. So, gross. Gross.
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  Speaker 1: Here's their idea. We don't know who she, I guess
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  Speaker 1: they hadn't figured out, I don't know, fingerprints or dental
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  Speaker 1: records or anything in this world of 77 Italy. So
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  Speaker 1: we don't know how to identify who it is because
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  Speaker 1: her face is all jacked up. We're going to get
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  Speaker 1: a clear box and put her on display in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of what town hall, some giant like civic building.
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  Speaker 1: And like, Well, she's got these yellow pajamas that she
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  Speaker 1: was wearing at the time. Well, that might cover up
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  Speaker 1: some sort of identifying mark that someone might recognize. So
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  Speaker 1: we're going to lay her nude with her jacked up
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  Speaker 1: skull face in the middle of town and let the
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  Speaker 1: entirety of town parade past her and decide if they
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  Speaker 1: know who she is oh no is that not disturbing
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  Speaker 1: on a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of levels I mean come on Italy.
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  Speaker 1: And that's maybe the most interesting thing about them It
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  Speaker 1: does by the end do some like structuring stuff that
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, for the time, this was probably kind
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  Speaker 1: of groundbreaking ish, but it does not make it worth
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  Speaker 1: all the bullshit that goes on in between. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that is like the beginning, the focal point of what
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  Speaker 1: they decide to do with this case. I'm using air
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  Speaker 1: quotes case. We're, we're going to try to identify who
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  Speaker 1: she is by putting her naked body on display with
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  Speaker 1: her jacked up face. They don't even cover up the face.
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  Speaker 1: You just parade right past her all of the things.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, I hope that didn't really happen in real life.
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  Speaker 1: That's the part I was just like, it just occurred
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  Speaker 1: to me when I got, I was like, oh shit,
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  Speaker 1: did that part happen? I hope not.
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  Speaker 2: I was reading about the case on Wikipedia and I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: If you know more about the real world case, you
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  Speaker 1: can write in and let us know, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make me like the movie anymore. Yikes. Everybody's just kind
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  Speaker 1: of a jerk. I don't like it. So the pajama
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  Speaker 1: girl case, don't assign us that. I'd just probably fuel
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  Speaker 1: the fire on that one, but whatever. Give us some
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  Speaker 1: other ones. There's plenty of other ones I want to watch.
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  Speaker 1: This one was just a misfire, if you ask me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. It says, after the initial investigation failed
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  Speaker 2: to identify her, the body was taken to Sydney where
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  Speaker 2: it was put on public exhibition. She was preserved in
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  Speaker 2: a bath of formalin for this purpose at the Sydney
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  Speaker 2: University Medical School.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they do show that.
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  Speaker 2: But then it doesn't go, it doesn't say anything about
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  Speaker 2: being put in a glass box or anything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was another weird confusing one because
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  Speaker 1: they're showing the big buildings. I'm like, isn't that in Australia?
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  Speaker 1: So I guess it was supposed to be in Australia,
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  Speaker 1: but the Italians shooting it and then it's all dubbed
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  Speaker 1: in overly bad English. So I'm just like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what country we're in right now. So, and again,
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  Speaker 1: the cop's American, I think. So like none of it
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  Speaker 1: made any sense where you were or what was going
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  Speaker 1: on or. Crazy movies.
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  Speaker 8: Fun.
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  Speaker 2: There's actually been several movies based on this. Ooh, and
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  Speaker 2: a play.
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  Speaker 7: What was the name of the woman?
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  Speaker 2: Linda Agostini.
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  Speaker 3: Aw.
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  Speaker 1: R.I.P. Linda.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Sorry about your body.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry all that happened to you, and I'm sorry
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  Speaker 2: that we're sitting here trudging it all back up again.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: I just said the movie was lame. Yeah. So have
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: you seen anything?
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: I recently rewatched Return of the Living Dead Part 2,
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: which creeped me the hell out as a kid. And
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  Speaker 2: now I just thought, what an enormous waste of time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I like the second one, but the second
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  Speaker 1: one is just like, at least the first still skates
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  Speaker 1: the line of horror and comedy. It's still mostly comedy,
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  Speaker 1: but there's plenty of horrific stuff in that first one.
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  Speaker 1: The second one is just full on silly ass zombies.
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  Speaker 1: Just straight silly.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 1: And don't hear me out. Again, I think it's a
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: lot of fun, but it is a goofy comedy if.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: Ever there was. It was, oh boy, it was tough
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  Speaker 2: to get through.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: And my favorite use of actors, because they use the
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: same actors in the sequel. They're playing different characters. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They don't address it. They even make reference to lines
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  Speaker 1: from the first one. Do they not? They're saying lines
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: from the first one that those same characters said. almost
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: knowingly to the audience of like hey get it it's
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: us hey guys we're back.
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  Speaker 2: Well what was really weird about that was after i
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: finished that i immediately started watching the day of the
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  Speaker 2: dead remake which i didn't even know there was a
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  Speaker 2: day oh.
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  Speaker 1: It's rough i don't know if i finished that one
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 2: Well i was just confused because i was like ving
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  Speaker 2: rames is in both of them.
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  Speaker 8: But not two different characters i had that issue too
• 14:05
  Speaker 8: because it's mina suvari i think yeah Which is a
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  Speaker 8: weird move for her, too, because I'm like, this is
• 14:11
  Speaker 8: if ever there was like a.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: Series of movies that takes a drop. Yeah. It's like
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: the night remake. If you like that one, most people
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: are pretty OK with that one. A lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: I love the day remake. It's a very different movie,
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  Speaker 1: but I love it for what it is. And then
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  Speaker 1: you get to that day, which is, again, a pretty
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: loose remake, much like the Dawn one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, at least the Dawn, at least they were like, well,
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: let's put this one in a mall.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll still end up in a mall. That's mostly
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: the similarities.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: And then in the Day remake, they were like, oh,
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: I think they're... Military, kind of. And there were military
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  Speaker 2: guys in the original, so let's put them in here,
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  Speaker 2: sort of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll put them in here, kind of. Yeah, it's rough.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of... I still don't know if I got
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  Speaker 1: all the way through it. It was bad. Well, my
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: only other sort of tie-in, and I'll only bring this up,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: and if you follow my nonsense on Facebook, which rarely
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: do I post anything that I'm actually doing because I
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: don't do anything outside of the show, but since I
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: went to visit a legend, I got to see the
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: actual cocaine bear. Oh, yes.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Pablo Escobar?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. Because I was having a weird day and
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, if things were going
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: right in my life, I'd head on down there and
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: go see the actual cocaine bear hanging out in the
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: lobby of the theater and go see the movie. And
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: then I was, again, in a weird mood. I was like,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm just going. So I just, up in
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: that morning, started driving on over there. And yeah, I
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: got to the Kentucky Theater where they had the bear
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: in the lobby. They had your little banner so you
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: could do your photo op with him and I'm not
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: usually into taxidermy, as I said when I posted the photos.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, not normally a thing I'm into, surprisingly
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  Speaker 1: for some people. But, yeah, just because it's such a
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  Speaker 1: ridiculously legendary story now. Right. And then immediately somebody's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably not the bear. I think they can't prove
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  Speaker 1: that that's what killed him. And I was like, do
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: you also, do you walk by little kids and pop
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: their balloons before you shove people in wheelchairs downstairs? What
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: are you doing? Just, I'm just going to take a
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: picture of a bear wearing a hat. It's funny. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Leave me alone. So of course somebody immediately, it's the
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: internet for you, but yeah. So if you haven't seen
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: cocaine bear, which I've now had several, again, I'm using
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: my quotes. Normal people go, you saw Cocaine Bear? What
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: do you think? And I'm like, you know, if you
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: think you're going to like a movie called Cocaine Bear,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: it's fine. You're going to have a good time. If
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: you think that sounds like something that you don't want
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: to see, you're right. You probably don't want to see it.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I feel it's a lot like Snakes on a Plane.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. You get what you expect out of it.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of thought about that at the time.
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  Speaker 2: If you walk in thinking, well, this is going to
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: be the next Citizen Kane, you're probably... You're way off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaking of Elizabeth Banks. She is the director of that.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: And truthfully does a good job. She's made a few weird... Again,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I can never remember. What did she do that was stupid?
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Because she did something stupid. And I think the one
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: that I'm like.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know. She probably punched a zoo animal.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Well, the one that I think got her... Didn't get
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: her full on cancelled. I guess thankfully. Because it's just
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: a dumb comment. But again this is one of those.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Stop making dumb comments on the internet. Because she made
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: her last movie. Or what was one of her last movies.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: And then got all up in arms. That like it
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: wasn't supported. And then she went online and was like.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: You know people just don't want to support a female
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: fronted project. And a female director. And then everybody was like.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Except the movie you made was Charlie's Angels and it
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: looked like crap. So like, don't blame it on that
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: if you're going to make a crappy movie. Like, go
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: make a good movie and then hopefully people will support
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: you because you made a good movie, but you made
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Charlie's Angels.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Which even I haven't watched that Charlie's Angels. I looked
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: at it and went, no, no, I don't care. So,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: but yeah, if you've seen... Any of the trailers, it's that.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: It's a bear. They do take, again, it's a very
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: loosely based on the actual story because there's a lot
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: of stuff that comes into play by the end that
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I won't ruin for you because somebody out there is
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: still waiting to see Cocaine Bear. But yeah, within the
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: concept of this crazy drug deal, throwing bags of cocaine
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: out of a plane was how this drug deal was going.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know how this works. I obviously don't smuggle
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: enough coke to get this quite right. But that's what
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: they were doing back in the day when this supposed
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: true story happened. And then at some point, Bear wanders along,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: finds some cocaine, decides to eat it, and has ingested
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a large amount of cocaine. And then this story then
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: goes on a killing spree. So, again, I worked it
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: into this episode because it's essentially a slasher movie. Like,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: it is a Jason, Michael Myers, like, it is just...
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: So much horror, but in the form of instead switch
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: it out with a crazy ass bear. So there are
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: several scenes that play out like you're in the woods
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: with Jason and you're about to get killed. And then
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: the other thing I don't think I knew going in,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I knew it was going to be a comedy more
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: or less, but it is gory as hell.
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: Oh, okay.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Ms. Banks does not skimp on the gory grossness. I'm
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: not saying all of it looks great. They do work
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: in a little... I mean, the bear is mostly CG
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the whole time.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, sure.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: So that is, you know, again, you have to sort
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: of let that go. You're going to see Cocaine Bear.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: But even the gore, some of it I think is
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: a little... whatever but it's still so over the top
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: level of ridiculous grossness things that happen that you're just
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: i was laughing maybe a little too much for the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: people around me i don't know but yeah i found
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the level of horror that was being done to the
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: humans and this was very funny so it's it's a
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: horror movie in its own special way so but yeah
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that was my special tie-in was the actual Original legendary
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: cocaine bear was there, in theory. Not if you believe
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: what people say on the internet.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I read a quote from the medical examiner who, I guess,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: did the autopsy of the original cocaine bear. And he
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, for the amount of cocaine that this
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: bear ate, he's like, nothing. Could have survived that. And
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: he was like, it probably died within about three.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Minutes of eating it. I mean, based on the movie,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, none of this. That's why I
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: said loosely based is even putting it mildly. Because I'm like,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: there's no way you couldn't just immediately your heart explode.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I want to think that in the movie, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: it's up to you if you want to tell me
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: if I'm right or wrong about this. But I'd like
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: to think that in the movie, the bear finds the cocaine,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: eats a little bit, and then for the rest of
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: the movie, he's just like dipping a claw into it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Snacking on it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: He's just doing a bump the whole time.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. The bear in the movie... continues to
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: find more cocaine oh that's great so not only is
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: it ingested at the beginning and goes off killing people
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: but likes cocaine and keeps finding it and is like
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: oh yes that's my thing and like goes to get
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: more bags of cocaine which are scattered all about the
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: forest so lots of cocaine lots of killing people so
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: yeah if all that sounds like fun you'll.
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: Be fine it's a marathon not a sprint.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah And I did, like, knowing, again, passing by
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the actual bear, I kind of knew how the real
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: world version turned out. And logically how any version of
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: this would turn out. But then we're midway into this,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, they're starting to take a turn with, like,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the bear part of the story. And I'm like, I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: don't know that we can end it like that. Like, so,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it comes out all right. So, yeah, it's not as
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: grim as what I passed by in the lobby, which
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: was pretty morbid, really, if I think about it now.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty sad.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Did it stop me from buying accessories? Do I now
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: have a cocaine bear mug and a hat? And there's
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: a refrigerator magnet if you go in the other room
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: that looks like Smokey the Bear and says, don't do drugs.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, obviously I need all these things.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I'm an idiot. What do I do? I always buy
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: more crap. So, yeah, I stocked up on my cocaine
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: bear accessories.
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: That sounds like a fun little trip.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: It got me through the weekend.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: There you go. So, that was my tie-in, hanging out
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: with Cocaine Bear.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: You know, so many people I've heard use the phrase
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: that it got me through the weekend, referring to cocaine.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I do things a little different than most people.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I know you're not surprised by that, but.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Are we ready to get into the movie?
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: It's for you.
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: Strange that you and I have never spoken on the phone.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: This is long overdue.
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: What is this place?
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: A shrine.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Did you miss me?
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: He's gonna keep coming after us.
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: Maybe he gets to win this time.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: We've gotta lure him in.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: And then we execute him.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Scream i hear you're a horror fan.
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: It's been said.
• 24:57
  Speaker 10: Woke up underwater searching at the call I couldn't get
• 25:01
  Speaker 10: any farther from the daylight Was I still dreaming still
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: to a machine Or choking and screaming with my.
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: Hands tied Calling and calling but nobody comes Falling and
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: falling no air in my lungs Getting so comfortably numb
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: Don't know how I opened up my eyes But.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: I just.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: We have once again gone out on the town. We
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: left the house amongst the people. I can go into
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: my neighbor. That was interesting too. So this horror club
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: out on the town feature is Scream 6. It did
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: actually get a number this time.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Where's the little goat?
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if we wanted that every time i
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: thought it might make people want to kill us so
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: if you want to request it for a special episode
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: like an annual event you know we can bring out
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the goat but i thought we might get ourselves in
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: trouble if it were in every episode thing we might
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: kill each other at that point so the year is
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: 2023 the director that's this year it is i know
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Let me see if I can get these. I pulled
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: this from last year because it just seemed like we
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: were doing this.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Matt Bettinelli? Ole pin. This dude made it hard for me.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Just stick with Gillette. I can do Gillette. And Tyler Gillette. So,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: AKA Radio Silence has brought us this movie and the
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: plot according to IMDb, which does not put a whole
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: lot of work in this one. Any sequel that starts
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: with In the next installment, which is how this begins,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: in the next installment, the survivors of the Ghostface killings
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: leave Woodsboro behind and start a fresh chapter in New
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: York City. And that's all they put. So not wrong,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: but they didn't really throw a lot of extra in there.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: It's pretty basic, slow as you can get into this movie.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: So spoiler alert, we're going to run the hell out
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: of this. Every Scream movie that's ever come before it.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: And we're on the end and the reveal and the
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: killer and whatever. So just know that now you've been warned.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: So where do we want to begin? With where we
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: do it every Scream movie, you get a cold open
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: killing every time.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: Samara Weaving. I.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I'm always kind of thrilled when she shows up, but especially, like,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: she's got history with these guys. So, like, I only
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: later was like, oh, that's why they brought her in
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: as the Drew, as the special guest. At this point,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: you get, it's like kind of a big deal. It
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: was sort of a twist thing for the Drew the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: first time around. But now, because we all know it,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: it's almost like stunt casting of like, okay, who can
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: we bring in to be the first kill?
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: So.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Eventually it's going to be like when Batman and Robin
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: are climbing up the wall and Dick Clark leans out
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: the window.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: So the opening scene is going to be Sammy Davis Jr.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: at some point. Oh, I hope so. Which now, I mean,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: as we've seen, Skeet shows up and he's been dead
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: for years. Not the real Skeet. Just within the context
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: of the movie, we still have a young version of Skeet.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I guess we could have a Batman era, you know,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Sammy Davis Jr. getting taken out in a bar somewhere.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: What's your favorite scary movie, babe?
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I just see him hanging out in that bar picking
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: up girls.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Well, obviously.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I don't need no Tinder. Shit. Look at me. I'm
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Sammy Davis Jr. Girls will be all over. So that aside.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I was intrigued that they revealed the killer or what
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: we thought was going to be the killer so damn early.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: That was my thing. I was like, okay, we know
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: we're getting the cold open kill, but then the fact
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that immediately takes his mask off. I was like, okay,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: rules are changing. New city, new rules. So yeah, we've
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: never had that before. So that's an interesting little twist
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that we've never had it be a different version. Like
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: it's always our main killer more or less from the beginning.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: beginning through we've never had a fake out kill which
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: with that I was almost like in a way as
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: soon as they got rid of those two I was
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: sort of like well that's sort of a shame because
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: we had almost an entire movie that could have happened
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: there that we now bypassed.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I like the idea, too. When I started to realize, okay,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: these guys aren't going to... Well, like when the other
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: ghost face is calling.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: When the phone call comes, yeah. I like the.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Idea of there being a world where somebody's like, well,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be the next ghost face, and somebody
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: else is like, no, I'm going to be the next
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: ghost face.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I'll show you. So, yeah, that was a weird different
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: thing that I was not used to, so... But I
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: think I realized as we got into that, I was like, well,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: there's no way you could have done that story and
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: not have it be completely repetitive of what we just
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: had the last movie. So at least for the reasons
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and the whole main buildup, like you're basically doing the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: exact same thing that they were doing the last movie.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: So just for the sake of mixing things up, I
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: guess it's okay that we killed off those two idiots.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that was an interesting moment of immediately taking
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the mask off.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I was glad that they killed him because.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: The the motives behind these killings are getting weirder and
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: like more not confusing but more like well why would
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: just stretched and then yeah like you guys are and
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: and when he was like hard when he was like
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: we gotta finish richie's movie and they were like fuck
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: richie's movie i was like okay.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: So at least by the end, it almost makes sense
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: not to jump there yet. But I'm like, it's very basic.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: And okay, yeah, I guess that would happen. Versus we've
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: got to finish his movie for people. Like, it was
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: crazy enough when those two were doing it last movie.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: But to then now have the baton passed to other
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: idiots that just were helping him make a movie. I'm like, okay, that...
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: You guys are really into this movie. So, yeah, it seemed... Again,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: probably a good thing that we decided to off those
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: two idiots.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Right away, this is probably the goriest entry, I think,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: so far.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's just these directors. That last
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: one was pretty gory. That was the thing I was
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: going to go into. I did also rewatch the last movie.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Because I haven't seen it since we talked about it
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: last year. So I was like, I was kind of
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: in the mood to watch it timing-wise anyway before this one.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I would like to kind
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: of bookend it with this and be able to kind
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: of compare the two. So I did re-watch that one.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: And that one's pretty damn gory, too. So I think
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: they just wanted to.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: This one really lingered over.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: But this one, yeah, they did not have any problem
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: going extra gross with every kill. So, yeah, even that
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: first one with her is pretty gross, but... It continues
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: to one-up it each time. We also get to check
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: in on the core group, if you will.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: The core four.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Dorks.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's something about that kid that you see
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: him and you're like, oh, here's the handsome, cool guy.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And then he opens his mouth and it's like.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: and he seems to be like that for real because
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: then like when I was doing stuff for this I
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: found that they were all doing the like there's an
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: online version of which screen character are you and you
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: answer dumb questions and then it picks oh you're Sydney
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: or you're whatever and they were doing they were all
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: doing that and like at the end it was him
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and the other sister were sitting there together and he
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: starts like he came out as Sydney he was like
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I'm the final girl he starts going into this big
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: rant and she's just got this look of Oh my God.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: And she says by the end, can you cut me
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: out of this? She was like, I don't know what
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: that was. And I'm embarrassed for you. Like, so he
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: seems like a big dork in the real world. That
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: makes it a little better.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I like that. So, but yeah, we got a lot
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: more with him. I realized that watching the other one too, like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: He was pretty minimal. Like, we got more of the sister,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: but we didn't get tons with him. It was just
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: him and his girlfriend fighting the whole time, and then
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: he almost dies. So, like, that was pretty quick for
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: him last time. So we get a little more quality
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: time with the group this time. And that's what I
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: think makes this different from most dumb slashers, is with
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: each of these entries, like, you get an interesting group
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: of people... And it is interesting that one of the
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: killers is usually in there, if not more.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: So we do, it's something you don't always get from
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: even a whodunit type of thing, that like you don't
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: have the person embedded in your core group. Like you
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: do have them within the context of the movie, but
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, it was the spooky amusement park
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: guy all along. Like, you know, the unmasking is usually
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: just somebody you kind of suspected was weird, but not
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: your core group people, so. That's always an interesting game
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: and has continued on through most of these Scream movies.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: That's an interesting dynamic and probably way harder to write,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I would think. It's a very delicate balance to work
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: them in, but then you can't like them too much
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and then you can't betray the characters that you... I
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I was rooting for Chad and Mindy the whole way through.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: And even when they, spoiler, both got stabbed, I.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Was like, no. See, that's the thing. We've gotten so attached,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: as we learned with Dewey last time. It's like, but no.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm still reading about Dewey.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: And having rewatched the other one now, I'm so annoyed
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: at Gale. Because it is her fault. He was going
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: back to jump back to the last movie. He stops,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: sends them down on the elevator, going back for the
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: headshot because that's what you need to do. You have
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: to take them out, make sure they're dead or they'll
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: pop back up. Happens in every screen movie. So he's
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: standing there with the gun in his hand, getting ready
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: to do it. His phone rings. It's Gail. That's what
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: made him stop just long enough for him to get killed.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: So as if I didn't blame Gail anyway, I really
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: am annoyed at Gail. So just forever. I'm annoyed at Gail.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Thank God we killed her. Oh, damn it. Can't kill
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: that woman.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, on the way to the theater, I
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, who from the series, the legacy character,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: it's like, who's going to get it this time? And
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, your only options anymore are Gale and Sidney.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, they're not going to.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Sidney's not even in it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Which good for her, but.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Could have killed off Sydney even last night.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I've thought that all the way along. And I think
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I said that last episode, I was like, I wanted
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: the carryover character to always be Dewey and have him
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: like continually following this. But I mean, I think the
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: fourth one they should have killed off because they had
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: the great scene in the barn waiting for her to die.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Like that should have been where she died. Then you
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: could have the big, you know, send up finale for
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Sydney last movie and And then have the only carryover
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: for the rest of history to be Dewey limping in
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: trying to solve these damn mysteries. I'm like, that just
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: seems fun to me. Yeah. But that's not what we get.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I say that, and they killed off Nancy in Nightmare. Yeah.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but walking in, I was like, yeah, they're
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: going to kill Gale this time. And I was not
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: that upset about it.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, when we got to that scene, I was like, okay,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: here we go. And at least it is a good scene.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, there are, I mean, you don't out
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: and out hate her. She redeems herself within every movie
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and then turn around and becomes an asshole. She does
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: the same thing again. Like every movie. And even this one,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: like last time, again, just watching the other movie, it
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: was like, they're sitting there at the end of the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: movie and her and Sydney are best friends. And the
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: other girl comes over and thanks her for helping. And
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: then like, we immediately jumped to, and she wrote a
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: book and she screwed everybody over. And I was like,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: of course she did. Cause she's Gail. That's what she does.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: She sucks.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: And man, they took their time with her scene. And
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, okay.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: That's why I was like, this is the big, here's
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: her send off. We're finally getting rid of Gale.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: And then the paramedics show up. We go to Pulse.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: And it's like, son of a bitch.
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: Now that I think, I'm trying to think of like
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: who actually died in this movie.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, other than the new characters, we've had tons
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: of new characters.
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: Like the roommate did, but then didn't, but then did again.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Did. That happens.
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: Mindy's girlfriend.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: The girlfriend who was super cute and had almost no
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: screen time. Yeah. I was like, oh, she was very adorable.
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: But other than that, it was just the killers, right?
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Well, all the random people, right? Yeah, and just like
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: a couple of guys who were at the bodega.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: The bodega guy, he got it.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we start with those two at the beginning. Well,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: we start with her at the beginning, the reading. And
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: then we go to both of the killers get killed.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: So we've got him in the refrigerator and our ghost
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: face guy. Then I guess everybody that he offs in
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: the bodega. Was there another? Didn't somebody get shot before
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the guy with the shotgun?
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I believe so.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I think a couple of people got killed there. Let's see.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: The girlfriend got it when she fell off the building.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Which when she fell off the ladder, I thought, well,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: she might make it.
• 39:12
  Speaker 11: And then she smacks her head into the dumpster.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you don't come back from that.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: That brained her real good.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's bad. But yeah, they had a decent body
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: count by the end of it. Yeah.
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, for being like super duper gory, not that
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: many people.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Died.
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: At least not any of our like main people.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Like any... This is my favorite
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: running thing. Like Scream is its own universe. So within
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the Scream universe, it's not so much about if you die.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: It's how many... what wounds that should have killed you
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: you rack up before the end of the movie because
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: that's a regular thing like from the first movie I'm
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: like there's people walking around delivering dialogue that should have
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: bled out five minutes ago so like everybody it's just
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: a running thing now I'm.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Pretty sure Jenna Ortega got stabbed in the kidney at
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: one point in this movie again and I feel like
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: at the very least that would slow your day down
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: yeah she's just like nope come on everything's.
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: Cool Well, yeah, the girlfriend before the ladder part got, like,
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: the knife stuck in and then, like, twisted all the
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: way around.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: She should have bled out quick.
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: And she was still, like, making her way across the ladder.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I was just like, no. I thought at least she
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: would get to the window and then just pass out.
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: And Ghostface would come over and stab her in the
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: head or something, but. Yeah, still trying to cross. I
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: was like, well, points to her. She's tough, but an
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: unrealistic version of tough.
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: And even Chad got stabbed by all three of them
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: multiple times.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, now he's kind of the new Dewey,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I guess, because he should have been dead. And we're like, no, wait,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: we've got another one.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Chad totally got Julius Caesar. Oh, yeah. And that's
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: when I thought, okay, well, Chad is dead this time.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: And then five minutes later, he's like.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Hey, guys. I know. But even our main girl, like,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: at the end, like, she got it. Like, she got
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: at least a good shot in the beginning there in
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the gut. And then another couple, she got slashed on
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the arm. Like, she had all... And by the end...
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: there's an ace bandage around her and that's it. She's
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: walking around delivering dialogue to different people. I was just like,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: she is really mobile for somebody who just went through
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of trauma, like both mentally and physically.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I do like that. Like, medical rules don't
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: really apply in the scream universe like everything's just sort
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: of a minor flesh wound no matter how much it
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: takes you out unless your brains are splattered on the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: ground and even then you might pop up one more.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Time or you got a knife in your eye yeah
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: yeah they do.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Like head shots these two guys because last time we
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: got the weird through the neck shot with wes and
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: then like this time we got one through the nose
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: got we skipped that guy too her wussy ass, uh, psychiatrist.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, what is that about? I was like, okay,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: so she tells you the thing you've been asking her
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: for six months to tell you and you wuss out
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, we're done here now. I can't
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: be with you. You're scary.
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: Also like, yes, there is a harm to yourself or
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: others clause in therapy, but that would be if she
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: was like, I murdered this guy and I loved it
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: so much. And now I have my eyes set on
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: this specific person. But she just said like, and part
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: of me liked it. And now I'm worried about that.
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: And he was like, no, I can't be your therapist.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not how it works.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know not being a therapist and having never
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: told a therapist this sort of thing. But I don't think, yeah,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I killed a guy in self-defense. And you know what?
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I kind of liked it. I don't think that's enough
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: to be required.
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: To go to the cops.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was annoying, which I think it was meant
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to be. But I was just like, what? Terrible. Wussy
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: ass therapist.
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: But I'm also like what therapist has like evening sessions
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: in his own house?
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: On Halloween.
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so whatever. But that did annoy me. I was like,
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: you suck.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: And for some, but again, this is just a real
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: world thing, which I love to bring up. If you're
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: bothering to sit down and watch a movie and you
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: are interrupted by something, don't you pause it? Because he
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: was sitting there watching Invaders from Mars. But he got
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: up and it's still running in the background. I'm like, dude,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: just hit pause.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I thought it was Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: No, that's the one. Yeah. But I'm like, just hit pause.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: You're rich. You've got some sort of magical TiVo or
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: whatever the hell it is now. I doubt you were
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: watching antenna television. I'm pretty sure you can pause it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: That was just a weird real world moment. I'm like,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: you were watching that. Why would you just leave it running?
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: And why would you stick your face right up next
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: to the glass door?
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Because it looks super creepy.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Dumb, dumb.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I do like that shot. Again, they do have a
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: good visual style. That shot of all of the making
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: use of the ghost face imagery is, yeah, that's a
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: key to doing these movies. They make use of it.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: It looks really cool.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I think I asked this last movie, and I know
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: that I've asked other people ever since part three probably,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: but when are they going to pull that mask off
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: store shelves?
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: And i think i said last year no money wins
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: they're probably making so much off because you saw everybody
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: in freaking new york city was wearing it so i'm
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: like i just feel.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Like giving again giving real world scenarios how everybody cancels
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: everything finally wouldn't this be something that people would rally
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: behind it being canceled that's true like 57 people have
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: been killed as a result of someone putting on this
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: mask and chopping them up And it's still our best
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Halloween seller.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I can say in Woodsboro they might. But, I mean,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: in New York and L.A., the only other places that
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: it really happened, eh, people die all the time there.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: What do they care?
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I feel like the Woodsboro Town Council or whatever they
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: have would have a very strict no.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: No ghost face policy.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:58
  Speaker 7: I wonder if it's, like, more complicated because there's also
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: the stab movies. So then people could argue like, no,
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: it's from the movie. It's not about the actual crime.
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: I love Stab. Even though it's the same thing.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: And those people are horribly toxic, as we know. Yes.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: If you love Stab, you're a horrible person.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Clearly.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Everybody who loves Stab seems to have lost their damn mind.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: Ooh, but speaking of meta movie references... The costume party?
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: That, I, again, if anyone, I was like, oh, I
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: can't wait till we can talk about it.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Because, yeah, when Dorky Boy shows up in his cardboard costume.
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: The, uh, what, Ethan?
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Is that the new guy's name? Yeah, whatever, Curly Hair Doofus.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: At the frat party, he's wearing the cardboard knight costume
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: from Murder Party.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, if anyone's gonna care, it's us.
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: And I was like, ah, Murder Party!
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Because I didn't make the Murder Party connection, but I
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: was like, Sweet fucking costume.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: But what a deep cut. I know.
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: I was like, other people have watched it?
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: The other ones were jokey because I read after the
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: fact that when you get on the train, one of
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: the people is dressed as Mojo Jojo, which I was like, okay,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: that's a deep cut because I doubt most people know
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: who the hell that is now that aren't old. But
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the joke is the voice is the same guy that
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: does our ghost face voice. He did Mojo Jojo's voice.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, that's fun. That's a good joke.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: And then supposedly either on the train or at the party,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: somebody's dressed as Wednesday Addams.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: At the party.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: When they're going up the staircase.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, there has to be one of those.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: That's just not even a subtle joke at this point.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I was sitting there watching it and I was like, well,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: there's always a Wednesday Addams at this sort of thing.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: But you've also got Wednesday Addams in the movie.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, normally, yes, you would see that probably anyway.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: But you have to put it in this movie. I mean,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: that's the reason she is who she is at this point.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: It is amazing. That's kind of what I want to
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: go into just in general is just... Okay. Sorry.
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: Sorry.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean to interrupt.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: But before we get to the party, I didn't... And
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: before we realize it's Halloween, like after the first girl
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: gets stabbed, you see the scarecrow walking down the street.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what the fuck's going on? And then
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: we get to the party.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's okay. I'm an idiot. Well, it is.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I mean... It just complicates things so much more when
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: it's a horror movie at Halloween time. Yeah.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: And it's not Halloween.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Ups the stakes at all. Yeah. At all moments. So,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: but no, I was just like, I like the cast overall,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: but like, it shows you like, even just since the
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: last movie, the like level of Jenna, like the social
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: impact that like just pop culture impact of her taking
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: over the world in the last year and a half.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I, I, always been thrilled with her like
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: as one of the few grown-ups that was watching stuck
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: in the middle i'm like she was amazing then and
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: she was a little kid so watching her like get
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: bigger and she's in the second babysitter movie which also
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: has samara oh i don't remember her she's the cool
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: girl that like he like the dorky kid like starts
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: hanging out with and like she's trying to help save
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: him from samara weaving is the her and a bunch
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: of people are the bad guys essentially no spoilers if
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: you saw the first movie. So like, but yeah. I
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: totally forgot.
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: I've only seen it once.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: That was one of those times that I was like,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I was already like, oh good. She's starting to get
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: movie roles now because she was super talented. And then,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: so yeah, there's that. But then she's in X this year.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: She's in the, well, Wednesday. And then like getting back
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: into Scream. I think there's another horror movie she was
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: in right before that. So like she's, Just Saturday Night
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Live last night. That was the thing. That was my
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: whole theme for this weekend is having seen that. Well,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I watched the first one, went and saw the new one,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: came home and watched her on Saturday Night Live. It
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: was like it was a whole big themed thing.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Well, you had a great weekend.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I did. I also, while we're on the I'm the
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: kind of dork who buys things, I was rounding out
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: the rest of my weekend. I was going to show
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: you this because I left the movie. And then very shortly,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, damn it. I'm gonna have to get
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: this ghost face mug oh sure it is a three-dimensional
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: raised ghost face on this coffee mug i have here.
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: That is very fun.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: But the thing i thought was funny and i was
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: like it's cool enough i probably would have had to
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: have it anyway but it doesn't say scream it doesn't
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: say scream six on the back says ghost face and
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: its own branded logo i was just like okay this
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: is like he's gonna get his own saturday morning cartoon
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: now it's like the adventures of ghost face and like
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: a little animated ghost face comes out because i'm like
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: that is very specific branding for someone who's not i
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: mean it's not movie based this isn't the ghost face
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: movie It is, but you'd think it would just be
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: like Scream, but they're so specific about the licensing. I'm
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: showing you all the writing on the bottom of this
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: mug that's the licensing for this Ghostface image that he
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: gets his own themed Ghostface mug. That's crazy.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: In the end credits, there was a huge thing about
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Ghostface is.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: wholly owned.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: By, etc., etc., etc. And I mean, it was like
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: four or five lines long.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I think we talked about it last year. Because I
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: think it's in the last movie, too. It's now such
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: a thing that that image.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: They are really protective of that property. And I have
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: to wonder, though, if the original company, because clearly that
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: was a thing for years before Scream.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: And nobody cared, yeah.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: But I have to wonder if it's the original company
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: that has the rights to it, or if.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: The original creators just kind.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Of got screwed over. Or if, I guess, who put
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: out the first Scream movie, did they have sense enough
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: to immediately like, hey, we want to buy this off you.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I think that's what happened.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: We know we want to license this.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: And it's not even Ghostface in the first two movies.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: It's Father Death.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I want to know, does Munch get a cut for this?
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like our original artist, this is stolen from.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: His family is not getting a damn dime off of this.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: I think that's public domain by now.
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: Oh.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Fine. Stupid public domain laws. So anyway, that was my
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: extra tie-in. Somewhere in the middle of all my scream activities,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I also stopped to buy a Ghostface mug.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Well, how could you not?
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my thinking. He's fun. He's pretty fun.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: He's starting to creep me out.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: He's going to creepily look at you.
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: Hi, friend.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Like rom-coms. I want to see it start branching out
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: with different genres.
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: Do you like Real Housewives?
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Yes!
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: What's your favorite rom-com?
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: I would like an establishing shot in a movie where
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Ghostface goes into his apartment, starts vacuuming.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: See, that's why I want the Ghostface animated show. Yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I want him just, he is Ghostface all the time.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: He never takes the mask off.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: He's not out killing people in the show. He's solving
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: crimes with some sort of talking animal.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Obviously.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Possibly a monkey.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I was thinking I want to insert him into,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: because now I'm like, okay, it's a Saturday morning cartoon.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: So I want to like essentially take one. Well, I
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: picked the one that's already rip off of another show.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I wanted to like insert him in place of Jabberjaw.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: In every episode of Jabberjaw, which is already just a
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: ripoff of Scooby-Doo anyway. So we can combine them and
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: he can be solving mysteries. And he also plays drums
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: in a band on the side. And then he teams
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: up with the Harlem Globetrotters. He's in their space. Yeah,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: they solve some mysteries. So if anybody else is on
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: board with this, let's get this going. I want to
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: get some sort of cut off this ghost-faced idea.
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's true, because really Ghostface didn't do anything. It's
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: just people wearing Ghostface costumes. So maybe the actual Ghostface
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: is a really nice guy.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: You can, well, and that's what I was thinking about this.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, it's not like it's one character throughout.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: All these movies.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: It's not like, because Jason, once we get to a
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: certain point in the movies, he is essentially Jason all
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: the time. Freddy's always Freddy. Like, it's always that same guy.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: This is just a costume. And every time it's a
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: different idiot. Several of them, as a matter of fact.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: So it's like, it is interesting that like the image
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: that we all identify with that isn't the killer.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: It's not the same, yeah.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Every time. It's just the image of that is used
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: every time. And it is part of what makes it
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: an interesting thing. a difference in this like sub-genre because.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: It does become fun because you're like who is it
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: who is it but it's that guy oh no he died.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: And that was that guy that was kind of why
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: i threw in the intro with joe because i'm like
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: it is like a bastardized american form of you know
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: instead of it being a slasher movie it's really just
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: a whodunit that we're disguising as a slasher movie and
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: it was from the first movie like that's always what
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: it's been so i i like that because it's so
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: different from most of the other slasher type horror movies
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: so for something that has a super identifiable gimmicky character
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: it's very different as far as its origin and or
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: different origin story every damn movie so yep ghost face
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: coming saturday mornings this fall so sidetracked on ghost face
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: yeah But, okay, we have that aspect when we start using...
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: This one also becomes... Because each one they sort of
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: have to... How are we going to up the ante
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: and tie it into everything before and loop around? Especially
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: these last two because we explain the rules to you
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: once again in extreme detail, which I love.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Which I think the rules scene is getting longer and longer.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: It's going to get to a point where we get
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: five minutes rules and then like five minutes... Which I love.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: I get a kick out of the rules sequence.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I love her just delivering that. And like the last
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: one was so good. Again, watching it again, I'm like,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I get all of a glimpse.
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: She's talking about movies in such a passionate way.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: I've talked to people who have hated the last couple movies.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: And that's one of the things that they point out is, well,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: you get to, and it's like, no, you need that.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Because that's what reminds you that all this is a joke.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: This whole thing is making fun of the whole genre
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: and on top of it now they're making fun of
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: the movie that they're actually in.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see how you can have that complaint
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: if you like any of the other Scream movies because
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: they all do that in a different way. The first
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: one just kind of does it with horror movies and
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: movies in general, but each time they kind of veer
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: off a little bit and find a new weird subsection
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: of something to go into.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: And I think it's helpful.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, once again, it's something that sets it
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: apart from the other ones. It's not just another slasher movie.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: It is got a built-in commentary from day one that
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: is also not super serious about it. Like, it is
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: bothering to make fun of itself as much as every
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: other horror movie that it's talking smack about. Or just
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: fandom in general. Because, again, last one was equally as
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: much Star Wars. Yeah. Which I didn't realize until watching, again,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: watching the last movie, how much Dewey is Han Solo.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Like so much so. Like coming back to him, down
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: on his luck, coming in and going to do what
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: needs to be done. And how's it going to turn
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: out for you? Oh, not so good. But I was like,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: he's even kind of got the look going. Got the
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: gun on his hip.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: He's definitely the Han Solo of the series. And was
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: probably ready to get out of it. Almost as much,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: not near as much as Harrison Ford. Right. It was
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: like for the little God kill me. Get me out
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: of this series.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Harrison Ford was ready to be done with it before
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: the first day of shooting of the first movie.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: He was just like, can I die in this movie? No, Harrison. So, yeah,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: but I thought that was kind of an interesting little
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: parallel because they definitely were making fun of that level
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: of fandom too, not just the overall fan base of
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Crazy people. Which they veer away from a little bit
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: with this one. Yes. It's not near as focused like
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: it was the last time.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: But talking about real world things is the hatred that
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: the Samantha character gets from social media.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Which is very real world. Each one they pick a
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: direction of what's the sort of social thing we're going
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: to comment on. Because by the fourth one we get
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: to just creating your own fandom type of thing. Whereas
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: now we're dealing with almost the other version of that,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: which is once you've gotten too famous, whether you ask
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: for it or not, then there's like real world backlash
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: that hits you that can destroy your life. And like,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: you see it happen to people all the time. And
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: we're used to it happening with celebrities, which is interesting
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: because one of our cast members kind of had that. So.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: That was an interesting resurgence. We talked about her last time.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: This time we do get Kirby back. Yes. Oh, yes.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: And that was one of those. She grew up. Well,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: I was playing that game. I was like, didn't she
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: have something? And there was a thing. And that's why,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: not to reference last episode, but why doesn't Hollywood cast
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Kirby in things anymore? And that's kind of what it was.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, wasn't there like a thing that she
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: had going on? And that's why she wasn't doing stuff
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: for like years on end there. And. There kind of was.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was as big a deal as
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I thought. Maybe it was a little more canceled because
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: she did something stupid. I think she just had a
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: lot of problems in the real world. Not to go
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: on Hayden. I like her and stuff. I do wish
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: her the best. But she definitely had some substance problems
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: and she had issues with she had a child and
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: then because of all her problems they were trying to
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: take it away oh no yeah so there was a
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: lot of real world stuff going on and that sort
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: of tied in because i was thinking yeah the last
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: thing i thought was probably nashville which she was very
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: good on. I don't care about Nashville, but the show
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: itself was surprisingly good and she was really good on it.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: But I think that's when it hit the worst part.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: And I think she ended up not being on the
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: show because of everything that was going on after a while.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: And then she kind of stopped working. So this is
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: really like the first thing she's done in about five years.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: And part of that was a lot of shit was
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: said about her on the internet. So I thought that
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: was an interesting real world tie in that, like we're
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: getting this resurgence of Kirby, but, a lot of what's
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: happening to our main character is the kind of shit
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: that she was probably dealing with in the real world.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Cause I think a lot of people were talking about
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: her when they didn't even know what they were talking
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: about much like myself. I didn't even know why I
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: just knew something happened with her and people were talking
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: about it on the internet. And so immediately I was like, Oh,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: do I not like her anymore? Like, and that's what
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: we all do now. Like everyone is canceled so quickly.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: We don't even know why half the time I have
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: to constantly go, wait, what did that person do again? Like,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: how did they get themselves? Like, elizabeth banks i did
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: it i was like she said something stupid didn't she
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: and like she did something before that too and got
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: herself in trouble so that like all these real world
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: things keep sort of manifesting themselves into the movie.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah glancing at her wikipedia page um there were some
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: things that she brought on herself and there was some
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: other things that were done to her yeah.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah it's it's yeah so i I was glad
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: to see her back. Like, just back to the movie.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I liked the Kirby character. It was interesting. I remember
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: when I went back and rewatched that fourth one, she's
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: just gone. Like, you just don't really, like, you assume
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: maybe she was tied to the chair and bled out
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: or something, but we just never come back to her.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, they did either purposefully leave it that
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: way or just didn't tie up that loose end. And
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: we're like, whatever, we're going to finish off the movie
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: over here. And, like, nobody bothered to check on Kirby? Like, so...
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I like her coming back and it does kind of
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: make sense. Like it is, it is a funny image
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: because she is so tiny. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm like, man,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: you had to have an uphill battle getting into the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: FBI because they are all going to be like, what
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: is this girl doing here? But the fact that she
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: did survive something like that would vary strongly. Like you
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: would either go into hiding and become a basket case
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: or you're like her saying, she's like, I wanted them
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: to be afraid of me. And so you go the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: other way and you lean into the, law enforcement aspect
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: of it and, and become, you know, if not a cop,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: you go to the FBI and you start tracking down
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: serial killers. So I think that wasn't farfetched really. So, yep.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I liked having her back. She did good.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: And was a nice red herring. Because it is one
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: of those, like, you could definitely also see her going crazy.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: So that is... But as they kept... Like, we get the, oh,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: she hasn't worked for the FBI. And like, so then
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh, it's Kirby. And I'm like, hmm. But
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: we haven't unmasked her yet. So I feel like it's
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: not Kirby. Yeah. It's like the fact that you didn't
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: immediately see that it was Kirby means it's probably not Kirby.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: And then it wasn't Kirby.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was relieved it wasn't Kirby.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to... Good things for her.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Both in the real world and in the movie. We
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: all want Hayden to have a good run here. So
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: welcome back, Kirby.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: I am waiting for one of these movies where one
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: of the characters that's already been stabbed in several installments
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: is just like, what the fuck? Again?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, didn't we get that last time when
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: they were trying to stab Nev and she already had
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: so much scar tissue that they couldn't get it in?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's what everyone in this series should
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: be like at this point. They're all freaking bulletproof because
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: you've got so much scar tissue. On that note, I
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: did like Jenna's hand scar. It was very visible the
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: whole time. I was like, that should be something you
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: were thinking about since you made the last movie. But
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: I did like that little addition there because they did
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: very obviously shove a knife through her hand. So that
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: would do a little bit of visual damage there.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she had a rough day in that last movie.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: More so, I think, than this one.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: But watching it again, just re-watching it, you do see
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: almost making decisions to, like, the foot thing is horrible,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, that's not going to kill you. The
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: hand wound is not going to kill you. Like, they
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: do a lot more of those gut stabs than they
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: probably should have, so she might have bled out on those,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: but you do see them making decisions unlike the other
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: opening of the movies when Ghostface is just trying to
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: kill this person. Where this one is plotted out to
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: be like, okay, we're going to do some damage, but
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: not kill her so that the sister will come back.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: So it is, again, kind of orchestrated a little more
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: in that one. There's a lot that I give that
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: last movie that like it throws out because of the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: wrap up and the people that are doing it. You
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: have to forgive a lot of the conveniences because they're
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: all coordinated that way by the people killing everyone. So, like,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: it does sort of save itself from having a lot
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: of plot hole problems because... And then this one almost
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: had a version of that because all these things are like, well,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: how would that and how would... Once you've got a
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: cop working on the inside, I'm like, okay, you can
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: get anything you want. As long as you've got connections
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: and money, like, you can get whatever the hell you want. So,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: the fact that they had everything from the last, you know,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: decades and like.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: yeah because when they showed the the museum i was
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: like okay there's no way these two idiots could have.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Gotten all this stuff that's the part that i was
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: like once again you've kind of by the way you
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: wrap up the story also filled in what would have
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: been major issues with the story i'm like well yeah
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: i mean if you've got somebody working from the inside
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: you can get whatever the hell you want.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 7: So also i wish that museum was real why don't
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 7: they make that that would be so cool But not
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 7: in terms of actual murders, but like memorabilia from all
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 7: of the screen movies.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Or stab, whichever.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I was like, I would live there. That's amazing.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: If you leave a knife that's been covered in blood
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: for like 20 years, would it not, like, would the
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: blood not eat through the steel? I don't know how
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: that works.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I figure eventually it would just dry up and fall off, right?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: It was still pretty blood covered on all of them.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I feel like, especially if you're moving
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: it from one place to another, you're going to lose
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: half of the blood at least. Just flaking off. You're
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: going to have to get some historical special people to
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: come in and do their airtight restorations on everything and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: proper presentation.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah and seeing all of the different masks and like
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: some of them that were more aged or had different
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 7: marks that was funny it reminded me of like all
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 7: the michael myers masks yeah friday the 13th.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah but why did only billy's mask get all old and.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Decrepit different stages of it it seemed like because yeah
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: like the fourth one wasn't as bad but then you
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: the further back you go the more beat up they
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: seem like they got but billy's was the worst but
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of wonder, like that's what
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I was thinking earlier when I was like the way
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: that this one's set up is interesting because he's also
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: leaving the mask there each time. So they're leaving the clues.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Once again, this is a mystery as much as it
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: is a slasher movie because they're specifically leaving this behind
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: as a clue for our Scooby gang. The core board. Yeah,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: I was like that's different too because it's not just
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: them killing people it's them specifically setting up this whole
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: big ridiculous orchestrated thing and like time down through each
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: one and it does it is interesting they even kind
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: of reference the fact that the second one takes place
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: at college well in the wrap-up not to again, jump
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: to the end, but like, is exactly the same.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: You killed my son and I want revenge. Yeah. It's
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: the exact same thing. The boyfriend was the killer in
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: the first one. The boyfriend was the killer last time.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: The parent comes back to get revenge. The parent comes
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: back to get revenge. Recruits a few extras, but otherwise,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's pretty much the same. So again,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: they both of these movies have kind of capped it
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: off exactly how it should have based on the movie
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: that they're sort of mimicking in it.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 7: Now I'm thinking about The seventh one, which would be
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: a reflection of the third one, which was Sydney's long
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 7: lost brother.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Now we find out our new girl's long lost brother
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: that she didn't know she had was bothered by Stu
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: because Stu is coming back. He did. I mean, they
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: weren't subtle about it this time.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Well, at first, though, they tried because the first time
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: they mentioned Stu, they're like, nope.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 11: He's dead well they got him on the board they
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 11: got him on the board is dead 1960 or 1996
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 11: and then towards the end of the movie they're like
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 11: don't be so sure even even our girl is kind
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 11: of like if you believe that and like she's part
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 11: of you know she's been there in the.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Middle of this the whole time and even she's like
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: if you believe he's dead i was like oh see
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: they're planting that seed They can afford to get Lily back.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: I would like to see him come back kind of
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: the way Cotton came back, I think, in the second one.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: That would be an interesting opening.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Where he's not really the killer like you think he
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: might be, but.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: That's what, yeah, one of the people online, and there
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: are many crazy people online, but their theory was the
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: TV didn't totally kill him, and his parents were super rich,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: because look up house, So they immediately got to the
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: cops and were like, hey, get my kid out of here.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Swap him out with one of these other dead kids
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: of many there are around the town.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 8: True.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: And just fake the medical records and like took him
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: off to hiding somewhere. So maybe he hasn't been in
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: prison the whole time because wouldn't they have brought him up?
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: They would have been.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: If he's in prison, then we would have been seeing
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: him doing interviews with him on TV or something. So yeah,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: it seems like that's more of a, if you're going
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: to have this crazy far-fetched idea, that would be more
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: of a way to go with it so that nobody
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: really knew he was still out there.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Or you could put him in a prison.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Make him almost like a Hannibal Lecter character where everybody's like,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: why would you do this? You did this before.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Why is this person doing it? And he's like, well,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: you see riddles and enigmas.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, in a way, again, all of this is
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: super far-fetched and ridiculous.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 7: Oh, sure.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: But now, picturing the current day Matthew Lillard doing that scene,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, that would be pretty fucking cool. That
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: would be amazing. I do like what he's become now.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: He was very sort of pigeonholed as that character in
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: his younger days, but now seeing him in recent... well,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: even in the last 10, 15 years, it's like he's
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: done different type of roles and he is aged into
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: where he is now. So it's like it would be
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: interesting to see him pull off not just an older character,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: but one that's kind of lived a weird life since
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: then and is way heavier about it all. So I
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: don't know. That would be to see a grown up Stu.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But I mean, not only do we
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: get the mention of him but we also get the
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: repeat of the tv yeah so we had the actual
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: tv there so that's that's a nice little wraparound tie-in too.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 7: And i am glad in this one they didn't lean
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 7: so heavy on the dead ghost dad hallucinations as they
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 7: did the previous one i feel like that kind of
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 7: took me out of it a little bit so i'm
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 7: glad they they only really had that like maybe once.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: It comes back at the end but then yeah It
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: leads me to, because that's, I mean, are they going
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: somewhere with that is my thing. And it also just
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: kind of makes me, as our audience and the kind
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: of dorks who sit around talking about this all the time,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've watched this girl go off and murder
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: people multiple times now.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: So at what point is our, once again air quotes,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: hero crossed the line and is like, Okay, I don't know.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe I should be concerned about you too. Yeah. I
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: do feel like your loyalty to your friends and your
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: sister keeps them pretty safe. But in general... you're one
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: push away from being a serial killer yourself.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: In this movie, it was almost like there was a
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: switch that was flipped because she was like, okay, now
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: it's my turn to kill.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Well, she did that last time too. It's like she's
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: victim the whole movie, but then when she gets faced
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: with boyfriend that has screwed her over and is trying
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: to kill everyone around her, including her sister, like, cause
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: that's what, I mean, that's the interesting thing about these
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: two movies versus the others. And it's a difference between
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: her and Ghostface in these. The stabbing is like insane.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: When she wailed on the boyfriend last movie, it was,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: what'd she say, 27 times or something? It is a
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: massive amount of stabs. And it's what she did here, too.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: She was not fudging around.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: But that's also what Ghostface now does. Didn't used to
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: do that. But you watch this movie, it is just knife, knife, knife, knife.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: It is over and over again. That is... Again, I
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's specifically just the way these guys
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: like to do it, is a whole lot of stabs,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: or if it is sort of Ghostface, which is weird
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: because it's not one person, is mirroring our sort of
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: hero now, that that's how she does it, and that's
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: also how Ghostface is doing it now, which is weird,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: because again, there's like, she's one nudge away from being
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: a psychopath, so like, is that supposed to be like
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: that on purpose, that like, she is... Her killing style
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: is very similar to our villain of every movie, even
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: though it's a different person every damn time. So, I
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: don't know. That was just weird, because that's a very
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: distinctive difference with her versus, you know, Nev just tried
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: to stay alive. Yeah. Like, Nev just ran away, shot
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: people when she needed to, but, like, she didn't... She
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't full-on psycho like she becomes when she gets to
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: the finale of both of these movies. Like, she takes
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: them out. So... And her holding the mask at the
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: end of almost questioning things of like, so do I
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: keep this and make this my life's work now? She
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: chooses not to, but there's a minute of her thinking
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: about it. So that's what I wonder. Are they doing
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: something with that? Like, are those planted there because of
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: where we're going? Like, are they going to do something
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: with that? Or is she just always going to be,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: super innocent girl until the finale and then she just
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: murders the hell out of a bunch of people.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 7: And it's tough with that. Like now I kind of
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 7: hope they don't go with that because they've been like
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: projecting it so much that it just seems like it
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 7: would be so obvious. And I don't really know a
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 7: way they could do that without everyone being like, yeah,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 7: that's what we thought you were going to do the
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 7: whole time.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Well, and we, they're bothering to make her otherwise a
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: good character. It'd be different if she was just sort of, eh,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: who knows what's going to happen with this girl. But
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: like the whole rest of this movie, you know, we
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: love her sister, but like you start to see, cause
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: in the beginning you didn't really know that the last movie,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: like maybe she would be like, maybe we're introducing her
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: just to make her the killer. Like, so that would
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: be a big twist at the end. But like, Now
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: that we've seen it's not her that movie, it's not
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: her this time, so to turn around and then go
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: that way with the next movie or the one after
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: that is a weird move. We've built so much time
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: with her and our core group of friends, and we've
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: made them a whole little team now, and then to
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: have her turn on them and everything they've been fighting
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: against seems kind of weird.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Even if Ghost Skeet's there. Ghost Skeet?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think that they will do that, but I
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: think they'll make us... think that.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Like, I think the next movie will probably focus on
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: her and cute boy across the hall who.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 7: Oh, I forgot about him.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: He may or may not be the next killer. We'll
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: find out.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, he definitely didn't... Oh, I hope not. I
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: love him.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: But I think they'll make you think that they're working
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: in tandem.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was definitely where they were going with
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: him again this time.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: It's like he was just there, and then he was there,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: but he was connected with her, but for some reason
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: she wouldn't tell anybody, which that was weird.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: And like... They want you to have human contact.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: They all are worried about you because you're a psycho.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Like you having a semi-normal relationship would probably be the
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: most productive thing they could see you doing. But for
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: some reason didn't want to tell them about it. So
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But I do like that they were
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: like making bets on it.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 7: I told you.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: I knew it. I do like the dynamic between the sisters.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Like I do think they, number one, they did good
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: casting because I do buy that they could very well
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: be sisters.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: And then the, even though they've spent so much of
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: their lives apart, that dynamic is there. And they really do,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: as much as you feel like they care about each other,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: she's driving her crazy. So like it's, it's very family like.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: So I do like that. And it'll be interesting to see,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: assuming they continue to, Rope both of them into doing this,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: which I would think at this point you'd throw a
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: hell of a lot of money at Jenna. Yeah. The
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: other girl's done a few other things, but yeah, she's
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: not like Jenna's the one you're going to have to
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: fight to keep on this franchise. Yeah. Yeah. That, that
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: will be interesting if we continue down the road with
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: both of them and the twins are always fun. So
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: they just have to keep not killing them, which may
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: get more and more ridiculous as it goes on.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 7: But core four.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: I kind of like, That's why I was like, as
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: they're stabbing the hell out of him, I'm like, he
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: just made up the name. They can't kill him off.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: They can't kill off his sister. There's four. So that
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: means you've ruined this scenario because you now have to
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: keep all these idiots alive every movie or you're ruining
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: your little game. So they did set themselves up for like, okay,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: now everybody's going to be upset if you kill any
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: of these four. Yeah. They've got a nickname and everything,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: even though you can't give yourself a nickname. He is
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: such a dork.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Up top. No, don't touch that. There's just moments of
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: them as normal camaraderie kind of stuff that I'm like, yeah,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: you got to like this group. They're pretty fun.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I did like how they know that they're in danger.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, they're like, we're just going
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: to sit in the apartment and eat spaghetti and drink wine.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Good for them.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, what else are you going to do? Yeah.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I do like she goes through her basic plan, which
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: was last movie, get the hell out of town. That's
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: her immediate move in this one too. And she's not
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: allowed to because some cops involved. I was kind of
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: glad to see, I've always sort of liked Dermot Mulroney.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I think he's always been good in stuff
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: and he is, he definitely has like weight to be
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: able to pull off the cop role. But at the
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: same time, he's just, By the end, he gets to
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: a believable point of just sort of weirdo. He pulls
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: off like, oh, no, this guy's lost it. He's definitely
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: over the edge. That is another new... We've never had
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: a third. We had one solo. We had one solo.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: We got the duo every time. And then we get
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: to this one where we add a third party into it.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: Which today I was trying to decide, is he ever
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: in the costumes? Like once the plot gets rolling, it
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: can't be because he's usually there. But like the opening
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: when he says, nobody cares about fucking movies. Like that
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: seems more like dad.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: To me.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Like dad seems, but I don't know.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: That's a good question.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's never in the costume. Maybe it's just the
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: other two kids the whole time. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: It is interesting trying to pin down. You kind of
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: can the last movie. Rewatching the last one, you can
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: almost every time make out because it's almost always the
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: crazy girl, that skinny chick.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Which does eventually come into play. I was like, is
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: she wearing like giant Hot Topic boots? Because she is
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: not near that tall as Ghostface in the whole rest
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: of the movie. Not to mention, I don't know how
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: she's throwing anybody around because she weighs about four pounds. Yeah.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: And that's, you know, we get that with this girl
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: here too. I'd seen, but like they're thinking she's the
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: one that comes into the one that we think is
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: dead is the one that goes to Courtney's house. and
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: throws that dude through a wall.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know that any of
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: the three of them could pick that dude up and
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: throw him.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 7: Because even the brother is also pretty skinny.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: The brother's a skinny dude. And he's an old man,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: so he can't throw in nobody. So between the three
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: of them, you'd take all three of you to throw
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: that guy. So I do question some of the Again,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Ghostface logic. When you're in Ghostface mode, you become Ghostface.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: I guess so. Which is just all powerful and is
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: way taller and has way more strength than any of
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: our characters.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 7: And also super speed.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And can just disappear when need be. But
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: I thought that from definitely by the second movie. Because
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, Jackie ain't killing nobody. I was like, Jackie,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: which I think the only one, again, watching that one,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I think the only one that was probably her was Randy.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: I think she was the one that took out Randy,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: but most of the other stuff seems like it's whatever
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: wing that was. Whatever that crazy dude, Billy or whatever
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: he was. Mickey? No, Nicky. There we go. Mickey?
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Mickey.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Mickey.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched two in a long time. I need
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: to rewatch two.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 7: I like two.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I don't dislike any of them really. Yeah,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: that's true. But I will say it's interesting that years ago,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: when I first saw that second one, I came up
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: with my, again, when have I ever not come up
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: with my own movie? I came up with my own
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: alternate version of what I thought would have been really
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: cool for the second one. And we almost get a
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: version of it here. Because I thought, wouldn't it have
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: been really cool? And I keep trying to do this
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: specifically to this franchise. I keep trying to switch genres. Like,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: wouldn't it be cool if... like the whole first movie,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: she's dealing with this sort of a slasher trying to
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: get out of that mode, goes away to college and
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: gets like caught up in a cult because the quote
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: unquote sorority seemed like a bunch of crazy weird girls.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: So I was like, what if, and then I was
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: like almost like a sorority version of the black Christmas
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: thing that we had to watch that last, that was
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: a bunch of crazy guys. Like what if the sorority
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: was a weird, crazy ass cult that was like trying
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: to suck her into it. And had nothing to do
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: with it. I like switching it up and being like,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: what if we did an entirely different one? And they
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: might be using the Ghostface gimmick, which everybody seems to do,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: but using it for this weird cult that they came
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: up with. Which is almost weird. Like, all the fan
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: theories before when they saw the trailer, when you saw
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: the curtain open up and you had all the masks
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: and robes up there, everybody was like, oh, Ghostface cult. Like, everybody...
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: theorized that's where we were going to go, which, again,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: would have been an alternate kind of interesting version if
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: somewhere in New York, like a true crime, maybe that's
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: our commentary, is the people obsessed with true crime started
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: an entire cult based around this real world bunch of murders.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: I kind of thought that's where we were going towards
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: the end.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: The two ghost face pop up, and then we know
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: that the dad is orchestrated and all, but we don't
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: know he's the dad yet. But then I'm starting to think,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: How many of these fuckers are there?
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: Because I just expected boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what I thought for a minute. And
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: then I was like, no, I think they're just going
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: with the you killed our son and our brother and
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: we're pissed at you. Which is a way more basic thing.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: It's a lot easier to believe than a super well
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: orchestrated cult.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 7: Oh, but now I want to see a cult one.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: But see, like from number two, I thought that would
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: be a cool idea.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I guess it's easier than a whole cult.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: But is that... an easy way to get revenge on
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: somebody I.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Mean start a cult well no not the cult are
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: any of these.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 7: Based on an easy way to.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: Get revenge yeah a lot of this is yeah all
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: these are revenge based but man there's a lot of work.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: They go to a lot of trouble for these plots
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: yeah that's true you could just like turn them into
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: the IRS for tax evasion or something well.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 7: They gotta like the kids have to enroll in college
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 7: are you making those tuition payments like man ugh.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like Billy would have just been better off
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: if he just killed Sidney straight out because he had
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: plenty of opportunities in that first movie. And of course,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: none of this would have happened.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: But once again, even in this movie, well, no, it
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: was the last one that reminded us that none of
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: this would have happened if Gale wouldn't have written that book. So,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: once again, it's Gale's fault. Everything is Gale's fault. I, like,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: evened it all on Gale.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I love that they showed the display case with, like,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: all of her books in it.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: Because she keeps screwing everybody over and writing terrible books
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: about them.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: Well, and I think I asked this the last time, too,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: but at a certain point, aren't the publishers going to
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: start to be suspicious of Gale? It's like, why does
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: this keep happening to you?
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, why are you always around?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: And you keep writing books about it.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: You are the only one here every time yeah so
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: at least that if we could kill off gail by
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: making her ghost face eventually whatever it takes to kill
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: her off.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 7: That'd be fun.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: Only because i'm not attached because i was kind of
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: glad they didn't go that route with sydney like it
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: would be Like, after all of the other movies to
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: then turn around and make her Ghostface. I'm just like, well,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: that just seems like... What have we been doing all the.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: Rest of the.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: What are we fighting for in all these other movies
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: if she's just going to end up Ghostface and get
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: killed anyway? So, I do like... That's the thing. I
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: didn't know. I assumed she wasn't coming back after the
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: last one. It seemed like a nice wrap up. It
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: was only today, getting ready for this, that I read
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: it was for financial reasons. Like, she was written in
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: the original version of this script and... And they had
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: to do massive rewrites when what the studio was offering
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: her was not enough. And I was like, that's weird.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Because again, you made a lot of money on that
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: last movie. So why would you not get your most
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: important key legacy character? I mean, again, Courtney Cox can
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: come and go. Dewey's already out. So like the only
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: one you needed to throw money at was her and
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: you didn't? Like, truthfully, I think it's fine because I
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: thought it would be weird if she did. Like the
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Gale one at least makes sense because she already lived
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: in that city. Yeah.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: So we knew that from the other movies. She's been
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: there for years. So it's like that, at least for
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: placement and convenience wise, made sense. But why would Sydney
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: come dragging all the way to New York City when, again,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: even the last movie, the first thing that when it happens,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: she's like, I don't want to be anywhere near that town. So, yeah,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: all she needs to do is get the hell away
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: from all of it. Why wouldn't she stay away? And
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: then how could you have her in here and not
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: have it just be a repeat of the last movie? Yeah.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: Because she wasn't really the main character of the last movie.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: She just came in.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think having her and Sam and I guess
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Tara was Jen Ortega's characters.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: I think having all three of them in too many
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: movies would just be too much.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: It worked last time. It worked last time. Because I
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: liked the passing of the torch. Using their own phrase there.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like it really was sort of
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: like capping things off. And we had her come back
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: in in a very different place. She's definitely a really
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: different girl than she was even in some of the sequels.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: Like she is a very different person by the time
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: you get to this super grown up, really kind of calm,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: cool and collected and packing a gun, pissed off version
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: of her. And I'm like, good for her. That's where
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: she would be at this point. But it also would
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: make no sense. And then how would you not have
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: it just fall back into that same mechanics of, oh,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: we're in trouble. Here she comes back with a gun again.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Last time I said she was the Charles Bronson of
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: these movies. Just come rolling into town. You got a
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: ghost face problem. And like, so she just, every movie
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: would become that if that's what they kept doing. So like,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: I think it made more sense to write her out
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: and be like, okay, she's done now. Like she did that. She,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: as they said, she deserves her happy ending. Let her
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: go be with her kids and her husband and not
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: get involved in this bullshit from here on out. So yeah.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: yes i mean they left the door open enough if
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: they throw enough money at her down the road and
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: they want a cameo they can bring her back but
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: we don't really need her for the constant plots going
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: on in these other movies or it starts to like
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: gum things up i would think so i didn't know
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: that that's why but like i think it works better
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: without her no offense i really like her i would
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: have much rather seen her than courtney but.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: I think the movies that she was in.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: She's great yeah She was great in the last one.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: But now that we've got to focus on somebody new,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: let's just keep it on the new people.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Go ahead. Yeah, I think dragging it on forever is
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: just going to be tiresome in so many ways. It's
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: like if we're passing the torch, pass it, and you
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: go somewhere else and.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: Do something else. But I could also see them say, okay,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: it's time to make these movies tired. now like make
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: that a conscious.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah well that's why i do like they didn't kill
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: her off off screen or something like she's still out
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: there so if several more movies come along and we
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: need to have her come back as the big finale
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: like that can happen and then i might be okay
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: with it but i think along the way just having
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: her show up randomly to be a fourth character down
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: i'm like this yeah like that seems weird and pointless
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: so yeah i kind of liked it with her out
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: of the picture now because why would she want to
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: be back every step of the way she didn't want
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: to be involved in this bullshit so it's like at
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: least gail had the ulterior motive of constantly reporting on
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: it and then writing books about it so again being
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: the character she was it makes sense that she's always
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: in the middle of it whether we want her there
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: or not but sydney doesn't want anything to do with
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: it so it made more sense that she was gone yeah.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: There was a... The moment itself wasn't funny, but there
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: was a moment where they... The ghost faces... How do
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: you pluralize this? Is it ghost faces?
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Ghost face eye.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: Because that kept bothering me the whole movie. But there
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: is a scene where the two of them stab somebody together,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: and then they stand up in unison, and they wipe
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: the blood off the knife, which is the signature ghost face.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was cool. It was cool, but I'm... Gimmicky,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: but super cool.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: But I'm sitting there thinking... I feel like in real life,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: one of the ghost faces, hey, did you see where
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: I wiped it? And you wiped it, wasn't that cool?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: And then they'd be giggling about it for like, which
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: is what I would do.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: Or I can see, especially because they're brother and sister,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: can you see them out of uniform, standing around their
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: own house going, okay, look, we're both going to time it.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: Like practicing beforehand in like shorts and a t-shirt going,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: and then we, one, two, three. And then like, so then...
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: For like six or eight times in a row. But no,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: you did it too soon. Dumbass. Like seeing them bickering,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: being siblings and like trying to get their special uniform
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: version of doing it.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: I just feel like a high five after that would
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: have been understandable.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Fist pump.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 7: I will say the train that they're on on the
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 7: subway scene is the one train which was my train.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 7: And I was like, ah!
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: You might have almost got killed by Ghostface is what
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: we're saying.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 8: Maybe.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 7: I have a picture somewhere on my phone of me
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 7: going to the Greenwich Village Halloween parade on that train
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 7: and it's like the whole thing is full of people
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 7: in different costumes. So watching that scene especially, I was like,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 7: I've been there.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: Again, they were really good at setting up, like, it's
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: a ton of set pieces this time. I guess every time.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: But definitely these last two movies and, like, the train
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: scene is super creepy. Yeah. Like, the apartment scene with, like,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: that one goes on way longer than you would think for, like,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: being trapped in an apartment with Ghostface seems like everyone
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: would be dead really quick. But, like, somehow they find
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: ways to keep like taking it to the next level
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: in the next room and then you barricade the door
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: and you're going out the window so like that was
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: a pretty well orchestrated so i think each of them
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: especially by the time you get to the theater at
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: the end is like a big grand finale in the
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: theater so it is very cinematic at that point we
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: even get the end credits with his dumb movie With
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: Red Right Hand. Yes. Did he license Red Right Hand?
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: Because I feel like.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: Red Right Hand. Dude needs to sue him.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 7: The song that plays like every.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: Every. The theme to Scream. Red Right Hand. We'll play
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: it at the end.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: But it played at the end of his movie that
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: was running when they sat down on the stage. And
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: we're like, whew, just killed a bunch of ghost faces.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 7: I kind of was hoping that they would just end
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 7: the movie right then. I thought, yeah, like that was
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 7: going to be the credits. And then it went on
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 7: for a couple more minutes and I was like, oh.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 7: It was fine.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: But we had to have it pop.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 7: That would have been great.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: We had to have it pop back up again because
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: that happens every movie.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's true. And then the ambulance scene so.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: You know they're not dead. So you know, wait, we
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: got one not dead person that you thought was dead.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: Sometimes two or three because everybody gets stabbed 14 times
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: in these movies.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: But they'll be okay.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: So much. They'll be okay. I do like, I mean, again,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: the sister thing and the wrap up, like they even
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: work in the you've got to let me go, but
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: hand me that blade first, by the way. So I
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: do like that moment of, again, Jenna just really selling
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: that of like, no, give it to me. I've got this.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: She takes a hit in the stomach, but once again,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: everybody gets those. They hand those out at the door
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: when you come in that theater. All right. Welcome to
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: the theater.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: I think I got one on the way into the theater.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I do really like that scene of, of
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: her and, I'm going to deal with this myself because
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: she was still such a kid the last movie and
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: seemed that way. She just reads so much younger. So
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: it was weird that I'm like, yeah, everybody else. Okay,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: I can see him going to college. I'm like, isn't
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: she like 12? She just feels like such a kid.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: So it is kind of good to see her like
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: graduate up even within this plot of like, no, I
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: can handle myself. Give me that blade. I'm going to
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: go kick this person's ass.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: Does anybody else besides me feel like she's starting to
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: look like Rosie Perez.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: A little bit?
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. No, I'm not. There's nothing
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: wrong with that. But yeah, Jenna's adorable.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: I think it's the chin.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: Jenna's adorable. She was pretty damn good on Saturday Night Live.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: This is a weird thing to be attracted to, but
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: I do like a woman with a strong chin.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: It was interesting they didn't do all of the main
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: stuff that got her there. She works better in the skits.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: The monologue at the beginning is just kind of like, hey,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: I'm here. Like, it's kind of weird because even she's like,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: I was just here touring this like a few years
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: ago with my parents. And before that, they wouldn't let
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: me stay up and watch Saturday Night Live. So she's like,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: this is kind of a weird ride for me. So
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: it's kind of, it does come off a little awkward
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: in the monologue. But like, once she gets in those scenes,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: She's just good. She's always good.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch the whole episode, but I did like
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: her on the ridiculousness thing.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: The one with the... Yeah. That was maybe my favorite
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: one because, again, it just shows her committing. They keep
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: doing this... I guess that's a real show. I don't know. Yeah.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: I don't have MTV. I don't have fancy cable anymore.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: I don't have cool stuff like MTV, the cutting edge
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: of music television. But yeah, so they're doing clips of
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: people falling down and every time like she's just like
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: supposed to be there as a as a TikTok person
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: to comment on it. And instead she backs it up
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: with a story of something horrible and just kind of
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: laughs it off. It's like, yeah, that was really fucking weird.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: And everybody's like, oh, God, like. So she's, yeah, that's
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: maybe the best one of the night. That was pretty awesome.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they didn't do a Wednesday sketch. They didn't
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: do a scream knockoff. Like all of the things that
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: you think they would have gone for as the go-to,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: they didn't do. They kept in the promos, they kept
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: talking about they were going to do the Wednesday dance,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: but like didn't do anything really. They just, she mentioned
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: them in the monologue and that was it. Like she
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: was just like one of the cast the rest of
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: the night. So cool. She's good though. She's always good.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: But I was, I brought her up earlier of the,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: the fandom that is centered around Ghostface and the screams
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: as it were when I got to the theater I
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: come in and as always I've said this last time
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: I was like I'm more and more weirded out being
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: next to people now I don't know if that's pandemic
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: or if I've I mean I've always kind of been
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: you know get away from me but I don't remember
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: it bothering me as much in theaters and now all
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: of a sudden it like registers that like you're right
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: next to some weirdo it's different if you know them
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: But like when you just pick a seat and like
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: you're stuck with some whoever. But this time this girl
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: was like, she had the seat kicked up because it
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: was super reclining seats like all of them are now.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: But she was like leaned back in it and had
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: her legs. So she was like laying in it like
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: with her feet up sideways. Like she was laying on
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: the couch at home. So she was doing that most
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: of the movie. And like I just didn't really pay
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: much attention. So at the end she was like bagging
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: stuff up. Like, I don't know how much stuff she
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: brought with her, but, like, she had a bag. And for, like,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: the entirety of the credits, which I sat through, she's
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: just putting stuff away and getting stuff situated and zipping
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: up her boots. I was like, what? Were they off altogether?
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: She just settled in. But as she left, I hadn't... Again,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: it was dark most of the time. I hadn't really
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: paid much attention. But she's wearing a Scream baseball cap
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: with Ghostface on it. She... As she left, she had
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: the giant boots on that the girl from the last
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: movie needed to be wearing because they had giant platforms.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: So she had those on and zipped them up, but
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: she had ghost face socks on.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: Cute.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 7: I want some.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: And had a purse with ghost faces on it. So
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, you are all in. Yeah. You
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: are committed to the, you might be starting a cult
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: right now. You should have, you should have. followed her
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: had her on the show that could have been a
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: little creepy so i was just like well if you're
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: out there listening let me know if you're one of
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: many girls probably at this point i think there's a
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: lot of weird horror girls that probably have all of
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: those accessories so if it's you hey write in let
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: us know i want some you just need to go
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: shopping I'm sure at Hot Topic they'll have you covered
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 10: Oh, gosh.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: You can get the giant boots and socks with Ghostface
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: on them.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 7: I feel like if I walked into there, I would just, like,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 7: dissolve into dust immediately. I'd be like, you haven't been
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 7: here in 17 years.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: I like to go in to make the kids uncomfortable.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: I'm mostly there to look at whatever stuff they have
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: that's this, which I actually didn't get from there, surprisingly.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: But I did go there afterwards. And I do like
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: that some 14 year old has to greet me every
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: time like hey let me know if you need anything
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like you don't want to talk to
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: me I know you don't want to talk to me
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: I find.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: When I go in there the other people that are
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: in there that happen to be my age are usually
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: being drug around.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: By oh yeah by a 14 year old.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: Teenager and the people my age often make this sound ugh.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 7: Ugh I wonder when my oldest niece is going to
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 7: get into that stage because I will totally take her
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 7: to the mall.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: But you know what?
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: The last time I went, it was not the dark,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: dungeon-y type place it used to be. It's all bright colors.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: It's pretty corporate. It's always been.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: Corporate, but it went from being gloomy and gothy to
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: anime and... yeah there's a lot of anime oh but
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: i mean that's very cute and not that's money cute
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: that's cute cute because that's.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: Where the money goes that's where they've always been because
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: i remember someone who's been on the show years ago
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: used to work there and like that's the thing like
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: they got into it back when it was like even
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: the remember the tagline was like it's about the music
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: yeah and like they weren't really even a music store
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: they had some cds and shit but like But even
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: at the time, they also, all of their focused brands
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: were the most mainstream crap of that type. Then I'm like,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: the kids coming in probably don't like any of this
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: because it's super mainstream crap. There's a handful that mom
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: brought them there, but like any of the legit cool kids,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: first of all, probably wouldn't come here. And if they did,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't like any of this music you're playing. So
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: I always thought they were a weird mixture of trying
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: really hard to be cool. And I'm like, you know,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: that's not how you get cool, by the way. Trying
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: real hard makes you not cool.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: Try to remember what age I actually was. when I
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: walked in there and thought it's ridiculous for me to
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: be here. But I guarantee it was far later than
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: what most people would find acceptable.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: No, I have not hit that point. Again, it's almost
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: out of spite at this point. I'm like, oh, I know.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: Everybody that works here is about 15. I go in
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: there and.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: I head straight to the clearance t-shirts because at one
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: time they had a bunch of stuff that I liked
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: but a lot of people don't like so it would
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: eventually get clearanced out and I'd get it for like
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: $ 3 or $ 4.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: You can't go to any of the quote unquote cool
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: stores and buy clothes though, especially pants because they're all
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: made for someone. No matter what size you buy, there's
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: six sizes smaller than any human should be. So as
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: an old guy, you don't need to buy clothes there.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: But those t-shirts, even those are probably, even those are
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: cut stupid now. I don't know why they have to
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: do that. Just make a dumb t-shirt look like a
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: dumb t-shirt.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: Well, they put them in what's called the athletic fit.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: Athletic, which means girl fit.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, but guys watching anime all day are
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: not going.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: To be athletically fit. Not the mode you're looking for.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: I've been to horror conventions. The horror guys that are
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: there for Scream stuff probably aren't athletic. Yep, so the fandom,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: that's equally as much, so. That's what originally started this.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: I was sitting next to somebody who was stocked up
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: in Ghostface. So I didn't feel quite so bad buying
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: my mug afterwards. Like, well, I'm not as far down
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: the rabbit hole as she is. So I just got
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: my mug here.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we went on Friday night and the theater was
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 7: totally packed and like a lot of youths and teens.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 7: And I was like, yay. I mean, I hated it
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 7: because I want to be the only person in the
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 7: movie theater and I don't want to be around people.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 7: But for horror, it's different. The next generation.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: I think horror is the few times it helps, actually. Yeah.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: Because I remember that from the last one. I remember
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: it being like a big reaction. There wasn't as much
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: this time. I mean, granted, I went in the daytime,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: so maybe that wasn't as cool a time to go. But, like,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: this time was just pretty quiet the whole time. Whereas
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: last time, like, there was a big response from the audience, like,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of times about different stuff. And, like, this time, eh,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: everybody just showed up and watched the movie. Normally, that's
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: what I want. But in a horror movie, I expect
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: a little more. But, yeah, there wasn't as much this time.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: Just crazy girl next to you.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: There were, like, six other people in the show I
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: went to. Of course, I also went At 12.30 on
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: a Saturday.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: Well, again, that was me. I'm an old man. That's
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: what I did. I'll go to sleep if I go
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: at night. I mean, it's past my bedtime.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: I specifically went that early so I could save a
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: few bucks.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: No, I go because it's the only time I'll stay awake.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 7: I was sleeping. Yeah, I'm like, it's true. I'm like,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 7: I have not gone to an actual movie in a
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 7: theater in the evening after doing other stuff during the day.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: I will be full on asleep at that point. Yeah.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with the theater although it
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't help that they recline.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 7: You i know the chairs are so comfy i was
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 7: like i should have brought a blanket but then i
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 7: would have absolutely just fallen asleep.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: But i do that at home too so i have
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: to plan out when to watch things to make it
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: through so we can talk about them because if not
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: i'll fall asleep like well we can't talk about the
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: movie this week because i slept through the whole thing
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: so sorry guys.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: I i feel like as the you as the host
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: of the show, that would be awesome. If it was
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: just me and Nora talking about it, you're like, ah, whatever.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds interesting.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that part. From the beginning, what happens
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: after that blonde girl gets killed? After that, I was out.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: Because there have been times where... time has been tight
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: and i just barely squeeze in the movie and i
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: thought well wouldn't it be fun if i just don't
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: watch it and just go there anyway i don't know that.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: The audience agrees we usually make them watch these dumb
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: or at least tell them to suggest it you don't
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: have to but.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah they're gonna be like if i have to watch
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: it that's yeah.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: That's what i feel like every time that's why i'm
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: like oh no i'm watching it i'm gonna do a
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: little bit of research at least and figure out what
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: the hell we're talking about but Just because I ask
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: other people to watch it. I feel responsible at that point.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: I may eventually, if we watch a movie that is
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: so bad that I get to the halfway point and
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: feel like turning it off, I may eventually follow that
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: impulse just to see how the rest of it plays
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: out when I get here.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: It'll be a surprise for you. You guys are like,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden... You're like, whoa, really?
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I like that part. That was my
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: favorite part. so are we glad that we're moving forward
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: on this it seemed like i mean they left a
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: few open doors but i mean the last one sort
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: of capped things off so i feel like the last
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: one almost stood on its own as a requel but
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: like this one feels like it's fully connected to that
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: last movie so this does feel like almost a new
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: franchise or a new offshoot franchise more or less so
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: like are we glad to see six more of these
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: coming down the line? Or, I don't know.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: Are there supposed to be six more?
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: I'm making up that number, but I'm sure, I mean,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: this one got greenlit like a couple of weeks after
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: that last one opened because it did so well. So
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: immediately they were like, okay, we can keep doing this.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: I think it had, it already won the weekend going
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: into this weekend. I don't know that it will do
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: as much. Again, I'm getting, just looking at stuff today,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: it's like the fans that I was seeing online were
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: really into it, but I also feel like this one
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: could rub people the wrong way and like not so
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: hardcore fans would totally drop off and it won't make
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: the kind of money the last one did. So I
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 7: I really liked this one.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: There's supposedly in this poster, which Nora was happy or
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: kind enough to bring us.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we did get posters. Thanks to Nora.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: Supposedly, and I haven't studied it yet, but supposedly there's
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: all sorts of Easter eggs referring back to the original
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: movies and.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: Well, if you remember, last episode we brought up, because
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: we said, hey, we're watching Scream next time, and we
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: started talking about what's the neighbors at the McKinley house
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: or whatever from the original one that lived next door
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: to Drew's family. They bring them up in what was
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: either in the poster or what people were talking about
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: fan-wise before. They were like, that's going to tie in.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: That family got murdered too, and then somebody that was
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: related to them now lives in New York or something,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: but None of that happened, by the way. So all
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: of that fan theory nonsense went nowhere in the real movie.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: So I thought that was interesting because I think that
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: was tied to the original poster that they put out
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: had something with like a news feed about that family,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: which when you go see the movie is not at
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: all featured in there. No.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: I would like to see Stab the Musical, though.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 7: I would like to see that.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: And they advertise it twice on here.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: Everything that was a movie becomes a musical at this point. Yeah.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine it not eventually. I mean, we'll have
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: a screen musical soon, right?
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: I think eventually, yeah.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 7: That would be great.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: Every other thing that was a movie is now a musical.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 7: There is an Evil Dead musical.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: And it's been very popular, so.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: There was a Carrie musical.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: Years ago.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: It tanked.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: For a long time, it was kind of the benchmark
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: for bad musicals.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: I knew of it. And then, like, again, back to
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: one of my favorite. But back to our last episode,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: I'm still watching the WB. Just the CW. But one
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: of their plays that they did in high school on
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: Riverdale was Carrie. So they did the Carrie musical as
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: one of the plays they did.
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  Speaker 4: So, yep.
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  Speaker 1: That seems very fitting for them. yeah they are a
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: dark ass show oh my god i love it but
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: talk about crazy and over the top and ridiculousness but
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: i mean in the best possible way so yeah yep.
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  Speaker 7: But yes i liked this one i think i did
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 7: i liked it more than five i yeah it's.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: A toss-up because i like i said i feel like
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: five almost works on its own like i feel like
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: you could just watch five in the first one and
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't miss too much in the in between. And like,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: you'd get all of the, it kind of caps it off.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, it really does sort of bookend the
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: two where this only works with the last movie. So
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know. I, I'm trying to decide
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: as I rewatched, The fifth one yesterday, I was like,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: am I going to revisit this one? Like, if I'm
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: only going to go back and visit one every once
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: in a while, am I going to come back to
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: five more often? Because it's its own reboot, recall kind
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: of a thing. And that makes it work better as
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: a revisit. Or do I just want to watch this
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: one because the stuff in New York is really cool?
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: Because it is. I don't know. I still haven't decided.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: I almost feel like I could be happy with just one, two,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: and five. Like if I had to watch several of
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: them over and over.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: I like three. A lot more than most people.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 7: I like three too.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: I like three. Like just again, I like the... Because
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: it's so commentary on the movie part of it. So
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: it's like the fake house that's like... Again, they did
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: that in the third one. We come back to the
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: real house in the fifth one. But like the fact
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: that they created the fake version of the house that
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: all of it took place in, in the first movie...
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: It's really cool.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: It's also been a long time since I've seen that one.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: Again, I like what they did. Again, Dewey's awesome in it.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: I like having a fake version of Gale there, so
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: I love Parker Posey anyway. I already don't like Gale,
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: so I'm like Team Parker Posey all the way. Doesn't
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: really work out so good. Spoilers. But.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 7: the tone of the third one is definitely weird it's
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 7: very like it's different yeah and like very different funny
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 7: um yeah maybe i just need to watch them all
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 7: again that's the thing i don't think there's a i
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 7: know i just want to go four.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: Is the off one for me but i still think
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of it's pretty great so yeah i don't
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: know they're all pretty great so i like this one
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Just as much. Like, I haven't really been let down
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: with any of them along the way. No, not really.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: They're always good.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: But I do feel like the people who hated Part 5, and.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: There were a lot... Oh, yeah.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: Are going to really hate this one. Yeah.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: I do... I mean... Of weird things that they do
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: this time too, the image of Ghostface with a shotgun
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: is freaking awesome. Yeah. And I know hardcore fans hated
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: that because we've never, he only, they, the killers only
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: resort to a gun at the end once they're unmasked.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: Like you never see Ghostface with a gun until it's
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: the big reveal and then they hold people at gunpoint.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: But like, i don't know that was just a great
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: scene like he's just going to town murdering people right
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: and left with a shotgun and i was just like
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: this is a whole new ghost face like.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: Well i gotta have fun when he started using the
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: gun i was like ghost face doesn't use a gun
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: but then i was like.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: This is awesome well and once again i was like
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: ghost face isn't an anybody but ghost face is whoever
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: puts on this damn thing so it should be different every.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: Time and she had already explained that the rules change
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: at this point again really because that's what he said
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: in part three every movie uh so it's like yeah
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: anything goes now yeah i.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: Liked it because again we reset whoever the killer is
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: every damn time so the ghost face shouldn't really be
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: uniform it should be different to some extent every movie
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: we just have to play on the Key things that
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: still make us come back as the audience and what
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: we like about Scream, but it still should vary realistically.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: I still want to see, and they showed it in
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: the last one when they're rehashing the Stab movies and
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: how ridiculous it gets. But Ghostface with the big rippling
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: muscles and the flamethrower.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: And the shiny face.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: And the shiny face.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: Shiny mask and a flamethrower.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: But the big rippling muscles and the flamethrower. That's what
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: I want out of Scream. I want them to be
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: serious about that.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: I blame the Knives Out guy for that one. Sure.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I enjoyed this one quite a bit.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: And maybe a chainsaw. I can see Ghostface with a chainsaw.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that we haven't gotten one yet
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: is kind of surprising.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: For being as meta and commentary on horror tropes as
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: it is, it seems like we already would have started
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: working in references to other killers in movies. They constantly
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: talk about them, but we'd start getting kills that were
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: sort of like making fun of other horror movies. So
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: I think we're getting there.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: Or just to have them go full on Wile E.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: Coyote with like giant rockets and I think that's going
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: to be in the animated Ghostface special. I'm holding the
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: mug right now. I'll take it. Ghostface.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 7: Ding.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: We just got the little image pop up. Got him
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: wink at you because the mask can wink. I don't
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: know how. But it's animated and it's going to be great.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: He's going to have rockets and Acme based products.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: It's going to be awesome.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: Really, we need to get this animated show going. I
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: would totally watch it. And it's also a musical. We'll
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: have a musical episode during one of the seasons. You
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: always have to have a musical episode.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: He's going to paint a giant tunnel on the wall.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: The kids are going to run through it. He'll run smack.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: Into it. Damn it, man. Why didn't that work? It
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: just makes no sense. Those darn kids.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: I want this so badly.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: I would have gotten away with it if it weren't
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: for those darn kids. Oh, man.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: This sounds great.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: It's time. Uh, hello, I'm rolling now.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 6: You make me wanna die.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: I'll never be good enough.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 6: You make me wanna die.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: And everything you love will burn up in the light.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: Shotzi!
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. We have to actually roll again.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 7: We took a time off.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: But this is very fitting because, number one, once again,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: I went out in the world. I only do it occasionally.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: But I went to a dorky place that had 20-sided die.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: And I saw one there and went, you know, every
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: time it lands and we all go, I don't know,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: what's it say? So I was like, what if I
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: got one that was a little easier to read because
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: we all need help. And... Then as I got it,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is perfect because it's almost color-schemed.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: It's the black and white version. Look, it's like Ghostface.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: And I think the 20 has this weird emblem on it,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: so if it lands on whatever the hell that is,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: we're going with 20.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: I don't see a 20. I see a 9.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: Somewhere here. That thing.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: That's just supposed to be your 20?
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like a torch or something. So, are we
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: ready to roll the new and improved With more legible numbers,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: ghost face die.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 7: Roll it.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: I think it's the only time I've heard a singular chant.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 7: Roll it.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: And then just nothing. Okay, here we go.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: I got a five.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: Five. Look how easy to read it is. This is
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: like for grade schoolers.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 7: I did it from across the table.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: All right. This one could be an extra challenge because
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: this list has been going on so long. When I
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: put it on here, it was on Netflix. And last
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: time I checked, I don't think.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 7: It's on Netflix anymore.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: So we might have to go seek this one out.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: This is Hungerford from 2014. Hungerford? Is that one word
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: or two? According to what I typed, one word. And
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: I think it was just me looking for sort of
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: more newer, which it's sad that newer to me is 2014.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: But I was looking for just different stuff that I
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: didn't know much about.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: I'm getting results on Google for the Hungerford Massacre.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's just people who watched it and then killed people.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: Did you say what year it was?
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: 2014. Okay. Yeah. IMDb has it as.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: Is it foreign?
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: Does it have anything to do with a car crash? Yeah,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: the poster art's got a lady screaming with an upside
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: down car. Oh, is this a found footage movie?
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: Let's hope not. I didn't pick it because of that.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: Alright.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: The lives of a group of teenagers are flipped upside
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: down after their town is taken over by sinister forces. I.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 7: You don't want to see it?
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: No, that was an I.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: It isn't an okay, I'll watch it.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I think about this is where
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: you were going.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: What did you think I was trying to.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 7: I thought you were saying I... Like dot, dot, dot.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: I was trying to say I-ite. I see. As the
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: kids say.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: Do they? Have you been hanging out with Hot Topic again?
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they do. And the fact that
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: I can't say it right just proves that I'm miserably
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: out of touch.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: We're old. But that was what I put on here.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember how it ended up there. But
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: that tells you you need to come on board and
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: give us some new titles. Because that one's been there
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: so long, I don't even think it's on Netflix now.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: So we have to seek this out and figure out
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: where the hell Hungerford ended up. So we've got an
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: empty spot. When you join the Meltdown Horror Club, you
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: can give us a movie that's probably better than Hungerford.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't seen it yet, but that's
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: how we do this. You join the club and then
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: you get to listen to all the episodes and you
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: get to give us a movie to put on this
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: list so we can roll this fancy new ghost face
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: die that I got.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 7: Join the club.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: Again, we're particular chanting.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think she knows how chants work. We definitely
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: have seen you do it before, though, because you were chanting.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: for house of wax last time but you got more
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: than one recorded proof.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: Quit sort of damoclesing me.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 7: Join the club.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: I'm going to loop it and run that over and over.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: You can't just one, because I know the editor of
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: this show. I can work around that.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't found this yet. I'm not done looking.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: You got until next time to come up with it.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: And so does everybody else out there. So go watch Hungerford.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: Whether you're going to like it or not, we'll find out.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: And we'll come back next time and discuss. Anything else
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: to pass along? Be careful on the subways. Somebody might
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: stab you in the gut. But it's okay because it's
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: just a minor wound at best. Yeah. It's like stubbing
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: your toe in the Scream universe. Like, oh, damn it.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: Gut wound. Yeah.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 7: Don't get stabbed.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I try not to get stabbed.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: Words to live by.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: And if you do stab anybody, don't say that we
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: led you to do it.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: Yes. We did not encourage that.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: It's a hassle we just don't need.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: We're starting a cult, but it's a different kind of cult.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: I'd say that about does it for this episode of Ghostface. Otherwise,
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: that about does it. We will return next time. Same
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: geek feed. Thanks for listening. Bye, everybody.
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  Speaker 5: Outro Music.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 3: I just can't take it.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: Let's get some games.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 5: You're bad, you're abusive, it's a lie, it's a game
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 5: You're bad, you're bad, you're bad, you're bad You're bad,
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 5: you're bad, you're bad, you're bad.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 7: Oh my God, can't believe what I saw as I
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 7: turned on the TV.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: This evening, I was.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 7: Disgusted by all the injustice.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 6: All the injustice.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.
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