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Stop Participating in Chronic Stress · Giving Pain Purpose with Lyndsay Soprano

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This is Your Pain Game podcast where we talk about the game of living in
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and with chronic pain and trauma get into the heart of how to heal.
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I am your host, Lindsay Soprano. On the show, I plan on
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discussing with doctors, chronic pain patients, ballistic practitioners, loved ones, and
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anybody that is interested in having their voice heard in the chronic pain and trauma
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world that we live in. I am dealing with a body that is screaming
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at me. I mean twenty four hours a day, you know, two
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four, three, six, five, seven days a week. I'm getting
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screamed at. And it's my own body that's screaming at me, and it's
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it's depressing. You know. There are so many reasons that it is screaming,
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and that the volume of it is as loud as it is. I
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know there are a lot of things that I need to adjust in my world.
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Stresses number one, but there are other things that I need to address.
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Nutrition. We've talked about this on the show all the time, with
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my eating disorder and things that I'm dealing with in relation to food. But
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all of this screaming is exhausting, you know, it keeps me up at
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night. I'm worried, you guys know. Also, I'm an insomniac,
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so I haven't slept much since I was nine, No big deal. But
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honestly, through this journey that I am on with y'all, y'all, I
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don't speak like that with you all. I have found so many healers and
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guests from the show that with each day they continue to teach me and I'm
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being taught to listen, and in podcasting, listening is kind of the number
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one deal, right, And I didn't think that I was a bad listener
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before I started podcasting, and I was, And now I'm trying to apply
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this new skill that I'm learning about listening a little bit more strongly with the
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people that I interact with with also listening to my body. And I'm being
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taught by my guests how to stand up for myself, how to stand up
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for my body, how to stand up for everybody that's on this journey with
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me, because it's a loud journey and it's a hard one, right.
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So by listening to my bod, these whispers that have continued to get a
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little bit louder and louder and louder, now they're screaming. So I am
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on this mission to silence these bastards that I have been collecting for over all
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of these years. In in order to silence them, like I said,
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I need to learn to listen first, So I want to break free from
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listening to Western medicine for a little while. And a few weeks ago,
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I was diagnosed with lyme disease like the full blown yucky. And I also
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found out that my viral load for epstein bar virus, which is called EBV,
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and we all basically have it, It's just different with different bods.
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It's beyond comprehension. So my little bod is fighting EBV and lime dis try
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to keep me going, and it can't even heal the CRPS side of my
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body. So my bod's fighting off all of these dicks from multipit co infections
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and all of these things. And what I found out is that my body
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is lacking the strength to heal me because of this. So let's get into
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talking about it. I have the most amazing guest for you today. She
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has no stranger to chasing and collecting autoimmune disorders, and she has a lot
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to talk about. And we're gonna focus on just that. So, without
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further ado, I'd like to introduce you today to my guest, Whitney Morgan
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Girl. Hello, Hello Wendy. Yes, focus, We're gonna focus.
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If you had seen what we had to do before this show, we were
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laughing and cracking up and cussing like sailors and all kinds of communication issues and
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boards and mics. I mean, we have been through it and we are
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cracking up laughing about it. But in the meantime, we are going to
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get down to some darkened stuff that we need to talk about here today.
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So Whitney is the founder of Morgan Nutrition, creator of the Thyroid Reboot Method,
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and co founder of the Functional Health Alliance. She specializes in advanced functional
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testing and in finding the root cause of dealing women with thyroid issues, which
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we're totally going to get into. She's a license acupuncturist, a primal health
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coach, and a certified gluten free health Coach. I know there's more.
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In addition to our private practice, she serves as a clinical advisor and instructor
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for the Association of Functional Diagnostic Nutrition Practitioners And my lord, that's a mouthful.
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Hey, mama, Hey, well, I'm rolling out the red carpet
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for you here. So let's start with your autoimmune collection disorder, right,
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I know, first and foremost, we're starting there, and how that has
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helped, like scare your business and helping to get women to the root cause
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of why they're continuously chasing all of these diagnoses. And let's take it from
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there. Okay. So you know, I was in a completely different place
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in my life when the first shoe dropped. I got my first autoimmune diagnosis
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in nineteen ninety seven with steriasis. And I come from a hardcore medical families.
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Like, we didn't have religion, we hadn't medicine. Okay, my
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dad was a surgeon, my mom ore nurse. I'm surrounded by nurses and
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doctors and whatnot. So and in my world, you didn't just go to
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the doctor for everything. You went to the specialist. Okay, no GP
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stuff for us specialists only. So of course I'm fully indoctrinated into this.
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And don't get me wrong, I love doctors, super super wicked smart,
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but they didn't have much to offer me. Right, So with sterizis,
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I got a bunch of creams and steroids and whatnot, went on my way,
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and then I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's interstitial systetis celiac disease. So between
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nineteen ninety seven and twenty ten, I collected for autoimmune diseases. Now every
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step of the way, I am walking that traditional medical path. And then
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I find myself and the head of Eurology's examining room when I was struggling with
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interstitial systetis, which, for listeners who don't know, it is the worst
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uti pain you can imagine. Twenty four seven never ends. Okay, So
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yeah, it's bad. And so what he says to me is this isn't
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going to kill you, but you will die with it. Nothing can be
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done. We can try and reduce your pain, but you should join a
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support group. Oh my god. Okay, So here I am the spirit.
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Yeah right. So at this time I was a single mom in my
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early forties, and now I've just been given this basically, this this sentence
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of a life of misery and pain. Forget about it ever having sex again,
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forget about you know, ever sleeping again. Forget I mean all that's
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forget it right, right. So I didn't know what was going to happen,
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but all I knew was that every cell in my body just rejected that
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message and said no, And I walked out of that office. I didn't
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know what I was going to do, but I knew I needed to do
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something different. So that's really what started me getting on a different path where
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I found I found a naturopathic position. I was really lucky because she is
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still my primary doc today. Love her. She is amazing, So she's
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walked this journey with me. I started, you know, doing a lot
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of research, trying everything under the sun that I could think of. Now,
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at that time, functional medicine was not in the zeitgeist. It just
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wasn't out there, and there was none of this online you know, find
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yourself a functional health coach or any kind of a practitioner. It was really
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just you know what's in your area, what's going on? Right? Go
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to the local health food store and talk to people and you know those kinds
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to mother's market and asked, done, what's going on? Yeah, the
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old way of communicating, right, what's that? And but you know,
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everything I was learning on the way, I was applying to myself. So
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doing a lot of experimentation, trial and error. I ended up because of
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the pain was so uncontrollable. I ended up going to a local acupuncture clinic.
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It was actually a clinic that was part of the acupuncture school, and
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so you know, a bunch of interns and started getting treatments and it was
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the only thing that made the pain go away. So that is how I
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fell in love with acupunctures and medicine. Realized how profound it was. And
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the more I researched Chinese medicine, the more in love, you know,
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I became. And I decided, Okay, I want to do this,
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So I started acupuncture school. And it was during my time in acupuncture school
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that I was diagnosed with Hashi mottos and my final diagnosis was feely act disease.
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But by that time I had gotten control of my pain. I was
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getting some success, you know, small baby steps of success, and I
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knew enough about nutrition and I've been studying the paleo primal world that when I
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got my celiac diagnosis, that was like the best day of my life.
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I was like, oh my god, it all makes sense. It makes
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so much fucking sense. Because it wasn't actually psoriasis that was my first autoimmune
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disease. It was Celiac disease. I'm what they call a silent Celiac.
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I can eat gluten and I have no GI issues, right, I don't
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get the diarrhea, I don't get the gas float, none of that stuff.
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I got an autoimmune disease. But actually, interestingly, in my twenties,
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I developed a panic disorder, which is not an autoimmune disorder. Right.
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That is one of the primary red flags of gluten sensitivity and Celiac disease.
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Anxiety and panic it impacts or that it does the gut. So that
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really the first time Celiac disease was raising its head was in my twenties.
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But what did I do. I went to a you know, psychiatrist and
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got myself some xanax. I mean, I mean, let's get real,
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it's it's awesome exactly. Yeah, But I didn't have a xanax deficiency.
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I had a gluten issue that I didn't you know, I did. I
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would hire a xanax why we all did a quite frank click. I'm on
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now, yeah right right? So so yeah, so when I got my
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diagnosis, I was like, oh my god, you know that now it
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makes so much sense. So for me, my red flags of celiac disease
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were the panic, the pteriasis, the interstitial stitis, the hashimotos, those
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were all a result of this undetected celiac disease. Right, So when I
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got that diagnosis, it was just like click click click click click, it
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all makes sense, awesome, Right, So that gave me the opportunity to
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truly feel like I was coming from a place of empowerment and a place where,
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oh, I get this now, right, I get my journey.
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I can see, you know, hindsight is twenty twenty. I can see
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the truth of how everything unfolded. And also that final diagnosis was the hidden
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piece that allowed me to really change my life in a way that made a
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huge transformative difference. Because along the way, with all kinds of different dietary
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you know, experiments going paleo, going off paleo, doing the body ecology
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diet, I mean, they're all these kinds of things I was experimenting with,
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I had periods of time of being gluten free. That was never my
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intention to be gluten free, but I just naturally had period periods of time
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being gluten free because of those therapeutic diets. And of course during those times,
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everything started feeling better. Oh okay, I just didn't connect it till
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I got the diagnosis, right, So yeah, I am an autium collector,
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and it took me ten to fifteen years to collect them all and to
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start reverse engineering them. But now, I mean, I sit here today,
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all four in remission, and I'm living symptom free and my gut is
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healed, and I feel better than I ever have, you know. So
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for everyone out there who was heard a similar message from their doctors saying,
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hey, this is forever, you're just gonna die with it, you know,
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just get used to it, resign yourself to this. And oh,
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by the way, it's going to get worse. That's not necessarily true.
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Yeah, no kidding, fuck you exactly exactly. Yes and I both love
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the efforts, so we're allowed to do that here. But yeah, I
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mean, we continuously chase these diagnoses and it's really challenging, especially with women.
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We have far more issues. And I believe it's because men drive us
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crazy. But I didn't come from your rib dude, like, I didn't
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do that. Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it.
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But this chasing is so exhausting because you know, you get these diagnosis then
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you start going down that road and then it leads to nowhere, and you're
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like, this is not where I was supposed to end up. And then
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you circle yourself back and you're like, Okay, well I'll try this.
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And that's one of the reasons why I did all of these blood tests and
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stool tests and all the p tests and all these things. I've done it
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all. I mean, somebody came into my home and like, drew my
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blood right before I left for our trip to Europe for a couple of weeks.
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And then I came back from our trip to find out that we have
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lyme disease, and we have all these other things that I have been literally
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talking to my normal doctors that they work with about and none of them were
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like, hmm, maybe I should go home tonight and explore what this patient
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of mine talked about today, because X Y and D we're just I almost
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feel like so much of what we're doing when we're chasing is just putting money
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in pockets of people instead of and I don't want to get on my soapbox
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about that, but well, I feel like I've spent well, I have
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spent over five hundred thousand dollars on my body in almost ten years, just
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to try to not feel pain. But what I wasn't addressing was the root
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cause of it. It was trying to mask symptoms. Well, we'll fix
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that part. We'll just make you feel a little bit better. We'll give
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you more drugs, We'll give you this. Oh that made me want to
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kill myself? Is that your game plan? You know? So we're we
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struggle and that. And I know that you talked about the thyroid And I
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don't even know what hoshimotos is all about. I've seen it on like I
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don't know, you know, er, Wow, that dates me significantly,
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does Okay, Grace's Anatomy, Gray Natomy, Grace's Anatomy. But because I
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know that there was an episode about Hoshimotos. But what can we talk about
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how you're working with the thyroid and where that comes into play and how you
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actually now have healed your self to a certain extent you know you're in remission.
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Can talk a little bit about how you got into that and what like
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what we're supposed to be doing to get testing like this where you're in the
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role that thyroid plays in a woman's body. Because I actually don't really know
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because my tests always come back that my thyroid's just fine. Well yeah,
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and that's a whole other topic. I know, don't don't don't believe the
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hype. Well, you know, because I had so many autoimmune diseases to
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choose from. Actually, you know, when I started in the business i'm
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in now, I was really more of an autoimmune practitioner. But god,
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I mean, hundreds and hundreds of people who reach out to me, most
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of them have fashimotos. So it's just it's just so prevalent, it's so
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common that I just naturally sort of shifted into Okay, let's just go where
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everyone is leaving me. You know, people need help with hashimotos, so
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can I Can I help people who have other autoimmune issues? Yeah? But
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hashimotos is getting to the point where it's as prevalent as type two diabetes.
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So holy yeah, it really And what many people don't know is that they're
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What the research tells us now is that ninety percent or more of all hypothyroid
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cases are actually hashimotos. So if you're listening, if you've been diagnosed with
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hypeothyroidism, which is very, very common, chances are statistically that actually what
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you have is sshimotos, which is an autoimmune disorder. Okay, So and
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for autoimmune issues, there's always triggers right now. It doesn't mean that there's
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one trigger or two triggers, or could be three or four for you.
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But there's a panel of your usual suspects. There are places that we go
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when we hear autoimmune disease to see, Okay, do you have this?
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Do you have this? Like gluten is a big one, leaky gut,
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heavy mental toxicity, co infections right that trigger right, like EBB can trigger
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some autoimmune issutions. I'm a mess, right, I don't muggle. The
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virus can, but so can other things like h pylori, super common infection
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rights hashimotos trigger. So wow, So yeah, you've got the way I
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The way I explain it is it's never just one thing. It might be
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one thing that pushes you over the edge, but most of us have dominoes
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already lined up that we're totally unaware of until that final trigger occurs that pushes
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us over the edge. Okay, Now that sends us running to the doctor
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because we have symptoms, right, that's our screen. So there's a tendency
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to focus on that final trigger. But the investigation shouldn't stop there because you
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really need to look for all the dominoes and kind of reverse engineer the whole
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process, right to get back to what is really your true baseline. Yeah,
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I mean, I can give us a definition of hostimotos, sure.
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So hashimotos is an immune disorder that occurs at the location of the thyroid.
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So it's basically, in Layman's terms, the immune system is destroying thyroid tissue
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at an accelerated rate. We always have a certain amount of antibodies to lots
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of tissues in the body, right, And because cells die, they and
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the immune system needs to go after and clean them up, YadA YadA.
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So it's not that having antibodies to your thyroid is bad. It's when those
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antibodi and those antibodies are elevated, right, when there's excessive damage, excessive
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immune interaction with the thyroid, that's the autoimmune problem, right. But that
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occurs a lot of places, right, So that's the same thing with MS,
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same thing with rheumatory arthritis. Autoimmune disease is just location, location,
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location, Okay, And so when you become an autoimmune collector like myself.
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You get multiple autoimmune diagnoses, and each autoimmune disease has their quote unquote specialist
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that you go see, right, whether it's a dermatologist or urologist, right,
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the gastro rologists, but there's a specialty well that in and of itself,
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it's so overwhelming because you've got multiple specialists competing, right and giving you
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different different drugs and whatnots Now, you know you're kind of a prisoner to
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all of these different medical plans. But what's not being talked about is well,
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how did you get here? Okay? Because the good news as that
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even if you're walking around with four or more autoimmune diagnosis, how you got
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there is pretty much the same. Okay. So if you focus on the
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root cause and those dominoes that I was talking about, it actually gets simple.
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It simplifies the entire process. So what do you do? How do
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you taste those dominoes? How do you figure out which ones are gonna fall
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and they're gonna fall into that? Everybody knows this analogy, and I'm so
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glad that you did it because it's super visual for people. Just the broom
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and then the one guy screws up the whole jones. You're like, oh
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my god, I gotta start from scratch again. What kind of dominoes are
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we looking at? Like? How how do we figure those out within ourselves?
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For these root causes? I mean from your perspective, obviously, Well,
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there's a there's two basic pathways. Right. You can either work with
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someone who has access to and understands the depth and the breadth breadth of the
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functional lab work that needs to be performed so that we can get the actual
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data that is you right to you, there's that path. The other path
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is the DIY path, which is, okay, let's let's make some common
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sense adjustments, which I also call it the assume the worst path, Right,
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you just got to assume the worst and everything. But the usual suspects
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are I mean, there's some esoteric guys, but typically we're talking about food
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sensitivities, leaky gut, we're talking about detoxification, impairment, viral infections,
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dysbiosis, so very particular parasites or bacteria or geese that trigger things. Heavy
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metal toxics today, microtoxchange, you know, line disease EVV CMV. You
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know that. Great, I am a mess and I was talking with I've
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got a practice that I'm working with in Toronto, Canada, and it's the
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vegat nerve Clinic, and I'm working with them just kind of this is where
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a lot of this this tickborn, like testing, and a lot of this
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came from I've been starting testing for almost a year now. Finally like going,
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Okay, none of these doctors are helping me at all. I'm taking
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medication that's making me like want to blow my brains out. This is not
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me anymore? Who is this person? Like I'm not going to take me
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out of the equation here, Yeah, I'm going to become what you want
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me to become in this weird whatever you're doing to our bods. But anyways,
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I'm working with them. I'm finding it to be so eye opening about
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the things that have happened to me and the decisions that I made and so
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we make. We were talking about out, you know, like how you
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get epstein bar and like there's so many fun ways that you get epstein bar.
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And I think about my past and the things that I've done. I
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am no angel. Nobody thinks that I am not for a moment, but
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the things that I've done in my path. And I mean, whether it's
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sexual promiscuity, whether it's drugs, alcohol, whatever it is, I'm I'm
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I know that those are contributing factors to things that have happened are happening in
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my body. So I'm taking ownership of those, which is something that was
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kind of a healing process for me to do, to kind of go like,
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well, you get this from doing that and owning that. So as
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soon as I started to kind of look at my past, look at maybe
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the past dominoes that kind of got stopped somewhere or kept going, I've learned
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that so much of my behavior stemmed from trauma for starters, and then behavior
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has caused disease, vir and so on and so forth. So here we
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are, when I'm in my mid forties and a lot of my girlfriends that
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are actually every single one of my girlfriends in my age bracket that we all
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grew up, we all have something going on. Yeah, and it's not
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great. Yeah, it's not great. So we have to figure out,
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like what's our first steps, Like what do we do? You know,
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lifestyle approach obviously, but from there it's like we go down these slippery slopes
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going we go through so many doctors, and we're chasing all these things and
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we need to I feel like we need to shift what we're chasing. Well,
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yeah, so let's say, let's say you don't have the money to
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invest in lab testing. You can't get the data. The best plan moving
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forward, in my opinion, and I do coach people through this, just
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nutrition and lifestyle changes is okay. First, you want to you want to
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eliminate everything from a dietary standpoint. It could be potentially inflaming you or pissing
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off your gut, pissing off your immune system. Yeah yeah, no alcohol.
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It was nice knowing you. Yeah right right, I bitch, But
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let's back to that. Let's come back to that because I have little hail
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Mary pass on that. Okay, yeah, so so because because I love
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my uncool Okay, so get rid of the grains. Okay, Gluten's gotta
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go. It's not good for anybody, news flash, nobody should be eating
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it. Just just stop, okay, gluten and all the grains, Get
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rid of caldary, get rid of all the lagunes. In other words,
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go paleo. Folks adhere to an ancestral diet where it is basically you know,
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wild pasture raised meats and fishes, and you know, nice clean protein.
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It's not like a megaprotein diet. Still, your plate should be twenty
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percent protein, eighty percent plant matter, lots of fresh fruits and vegetables,
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small amount of nuts and seeds. You know, just just a basic what
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grows out of the ground that doesn't have to be processed. Yeah, okay,
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we can't eat grains in the field. Okay, we can't do it.
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So just go to an ancestral diet. That's the first thing. And
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then you have to really lean into kind of i know, taking the habit
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of modern life. You know. So hey, don't stay up past nine
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to thirty, right, don't don't be streaming Netflix until midnight. Right,
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so you got to get eight to nine hours of sleep. You have to
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move appropriately. No over exercising, no under exercising. Don't go to the
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gym after your work day and exercise in the second half of the day when
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your cortisol should be at its lowest, you know, exercise in the morning.
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Manage your stress, right, so that will come on. That's so
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easy to say. There are tools I don't I don't mean you have to
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be a zen, mama. I just mean that you have to get used
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to practicing tools every day. Okay. So whether it's ten minutes of meditation,
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five minutes of breath work, ten minutes of tapping. Practice with tools
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that you can do in your home, you have power over. You can
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do them anytime anywhere. You practice with them daily, because you can't wait
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for crisis. Okay, you have to get used to using these tools to
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manage your nervous system. It's not like, oh, we have to get
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rid of the stress in our life. No, we have to manage our
26:26
nervous with them and continually remind it how to shift back into parasympathetic mode.
26:32
Because we're supposed to spend the majority of our day in parasympathetic mode. That's
26:36
not what happens in this modern world. We spend the majority of our time
26:40
in sympathetic mode. That's chronic stress. Okay. So that's a killer,
26:44
right, So we can't participate in that hectic, modern go go go lifestyle
26:49
if you want to heal. So you know that's the basic stuff, right,
26:55
And that's a heavy lift for most people. Most people are not willing
26:59
to make those changes. They're either not sick enough, not miserable enough,
27:03
not scared enough. The hole just isn't deep enough yet for them to make
27:08
those changes. Okay, but let's say you make all the changes, you
27:12
do all the right things, Well, there still could be some hidden things.
27:15
You could have some microtoxins that are shutting down cellular detoxification and keeping you
27:22
from healing, right, and that's not going to go away unless you address
27:25
it, right, So they're still like I always tell people, hey,
27:27
the nutrition and lifestyle stuff can get you eighty percent of the way there,
27:32
right, But that final twenty percent, if you're chronically ill, you're going
27:37
to have to do some strategic testing. You're going to have to look for
27:40
those hidden triggers, right, that don't fall away on their own. But
27:45
the cool thing is is that we kind of know what those suspects are.
27:48
We know where to go to look for them. So it's not rocket science.
27:52
We've got the lab work. Now, we have the means to do
27:55
it. We can identify it. And then if you're working with someone who
27:59
knows what they're doing, they could say, okay, yeah, I've identified
28:02
this, like the line disease or the EBV. Now here's the plan to
28:06
get rid of it to stabilize it. Okay, we're going to get rid
28:07
of this one bad guy that we've identified. There could be others, right,
28:12
So, well, it's a lot, and I know and I know
28:15
that people feel overwhelmed in it because I am overwhelmed in it. With my
28:19
health like it is, it turns into something that, especially when you live
28:23
in chronic pain where you've got you know, other health issues or what have
28:27
you, it turns into your only place that you live in, and then
28:32
the people that are around you have to live in that place too. And
28:36
so one of the things that has been a focus of mine that I've been
28:38
kind of like working towards is by helping myself get a little bit healthier,
28:45
it's also helping the relationships around me because I feel like my whole group of
28:51
people, my parents, my spouse, my best friends, so on and
28:52
so forth, are always walking on eggshells around me because they know how much
28:57
pain I'm in. And I'm like, oh my god. It's kind of
29:00
a team effort, though, because I can't do it all by myself.
29:04
That's why I'm here, That's why I'm talking to you, That's why I'm
29:07
helping to give your message and our message to listeners because we can't do it
29:11
alone, and we try to because especially with chronic pain and undiagnosed or diagnosed
29:18
things that are happy to our bodies, we can't do it alone. But
29:22
we sit in it for a long time alone until we're like, oh right,
29:30
I need help and I need it now. And that is what happened
29:33
with me. It got to the point where I got into a wheel tam
29:37
May of twenty twenty two, and that was a big move for me to
29:42
do that. But I'm getting myself out of it hell or high water.
29:47
But it's going to take all of these extra steps, and this extra dives
29:51
into taking control of our own health instead of having it driven by Western medicine,
29:57
which is basically where I mean. I know that I feel that way.
30:00
I know you have. The Western medicine is here for purposes though,
30:04
like come on, like absolutely right, yeah, But the holistic approach,
30:08
when people listen to the word holistic, do you understand what that even means.
30:11
It means a little bit from everywhere, yes, But at the end
30:15
of the day, you got to take all that a little bit from everywhere
30:18
and you need to put it into your life. And your body and your
30:21
experience of what you're going through, and to not just be somebody that's walking
30:25
around going okay, I'll just take that like passively. That's right. That's
30:29
what happens when, especially when you're in pain, you're like, I'll take
30:32
anything. Don't do that, don't need that. Yeah, And holistic also
30:36
means mind, body, spirit, Okay. It doesn't just mean you know
30:40
every test, every supplement under the sun. It means paying attention to and
30:45
creating a greater awareness of your patterns of thinking and feeling over time and behaving
30:52
and your spiritual well being. Great. I mean there's we are not just
30:56
physical bodies, but certainly when when there is chronic pain, it can feel
31:03
like that's all you are. That's exactly right. It's it's like my persona.
31:07
Yes, I'm almost afraid to not be in pain anymore, right,
31:11
because then who will you become? Right? Right, It's very scary.
31:17
It is scary, but you know you you you spoke to it a little
31:19
bit ago when you brought up you know your past and like you know,
31:23
the made some choices. Oh yeah, and I hear you. I was
31:29
a wild child myself, and and I can look back and go, oh
31:33
yeah, I know that my my choices along the way contributed to how my
31:37
health unfolded. But then at the same time say, okay, well,
31:41
there's a reason why I was more prone to make those choice choices, and
31:45
the reason is trauma. Okay, and I had trauma growing up. I
31:48
wasn't aware of the level of trauma that I had until I saw someone who
31:52
could help me identify it, right, because I didn't have like, you
31:56
know, I wasn't in a war. I wasn't I my parents and beaten.
32:00
I didn't have anything that was so obvious that I could say, oh,
32:02
yes, I had a traumatic experience. I had, you know,
32:06
lots of little traumas, like like putting beads on a necklace and they accumulate
32:10
it, and we store that ship and our bodies okay. It gives a
32:16
score. Particularly women, we are taught to stuff and store okay, and
32:23
we continue to do it even through our illness. Like what you just spoke
32:28
to you, you have this awareness that it's not just you going through it,
32:30
it's everyone who loves you. And we're also taught to have that awareness
32:37
and at some level a sense of caretaking for those around us who suffer because
32:43
we suffer. And that's another slight form of stuffing. Yeah, you know,
32:47
it brings up shame and guilt and all these things that actually came from
32:51
trauma in the first place. So it almost like turns it up all over
32:55
again and you're like, well, shit, yeah, yeah, so you
33:01
know. And now I'm not a trauma specialist. I don't do trauma work,
33:06
but I do that. That's always a part of me working with clients
33:09
is pointing them towards directions or different resources where they can get the help they
33:15
need to try and free their bodies from the trauma. Right, our bodies
33:20
are super wise, and our bodies can let go of the trauma residue that's
33:29
bound inside the tissues without us having to think our way or talk our way
33:34
into that happening. It's not an intellectual process. It's not like, oh,
33:38
I'm making a decision to let go of trauma now, No, it's
33:42
the body that makes the decision. Right. So, but this is usually
33:45
a very energetic thing, and people release trauma during acupuncture about one hundred percent
33:52
of the time. Right, they're not aware of it, they don't know
33:54
what it is. But I tell you they'll start crying and they don't know
33:59
why they're crying. You know, it's like, Okay, that's because that's
34:01
what your body needs to do to let go of this. That's a sign,
34:06
right, you're releasing something. In acupuncture with me, there was this
34:09
acupunctures that I had. I lived in Park City, Utah for a couple
34:13
of years with my ex's husband, and I grew up there too, so
34:15
it was like my town whatever, and there's an acupunctureist and she said she
34:20
put a bowl of water underneath the table and I was laying there and she
34:24
goes, I just went after she like, you know, pinned me.
34:29
Yeah. She was like, whatever you feel, whatever it is that you
34:32
want to express or let go of, you just send right below this table
34:37
into that bowl of water behind us and then we're going to toss it out
34:39
together nice. And it was such a good visual for me. And it's
34:44
something that I do in my home every day. There's a bowl of water
34:47
in my kitchen and I was like, well's this and then they like clean
34:51
it. I'm like, no, don't do that. This is my bowl.
34:54
But it is my bowl. Knock it off and it's really beautifu full
35:00
and it is something that's filled with water and then in the morning, I
35:02
wake up and I throw it down the sink. So whatever like junk I
35:06
have during the day, sometimes I go and I'm like, I'm at my
35:07
kitchen window and I'm like, all right, blah blah blah blah, whatever
35:09
it is I want to put in there. And I learned that from acupuncture,
35:14
and it's it's I don't know, I don't know if it really works,
35:16
but I feel great after I do it, like there's just look like
35:22
this boost. And I learned that from acupuncture, because for sure, we've
35:25
got so many blockages in our bodies that we're just holding on to stuff that's
35:30
happened from trauma over the years. And I love that you pointed out that,
35:35
like trauma doesn't have to be like, oh my god, it was
35:37
raped by my father or whatever, you know, not to put that into
35:40
a lower category at all, But it doesn't have to be this crazy,
35:45
you know, lifetime movie. That's right situation for it to be traumatic to
35:50
you, however you feel and experience your life. And if it is traumatic
35:54
to you, it's traumatic to you. Don't compare it to anybody else,
35:59
because that's something that I know that we fall into. Trauma can be as
36:02
simple as feeling invisible yeah amen, yeah, or just feeling not good enough.
36:10
However, you receive that message that who you are it is not good
36:15
enough, You're not worthy that in order to deserve the love that every child
36:22
should have completely, you need to be different, right. That is?
36:27
That is trauma. You need to be perfect. That's what I grew up
36:30
with. Yes, yeah, I grew up with that. The alanis mors
36:32
that thong perfect, turn that puppy on and I'm a bloody mess, yes,
36:38
because it is. I came from a conservative, you know, right
36:42
wing religious family and I'm literally not but I was raised under this guise of
36:51
no matter what you do, you're basically going to hell. I think the
36:54
stork dropped you off at the wrong house. Wrong about those help me sort
37:01
have been job at the Playboy mansion or something. I mean, let's get
37:06
real, all right, Well, I want to talk to you forever,
37:12
So let's talk about I know we've talked a lot about from and we've talked
37:14
about chasing after all these diagnoses. So how can we find you online and
37:20
what you're up to to help us with our basically our functioning as women that
37:28
you know, we're faced with so many things, but how can we just
37:31
lean into you and where you come from because you're fucking amazing. Oh thank
37:37
you. So folks can find me at Whitney Morgan Nutrition. That's my website,
37:42
that's my Instagram LinkedIn Facebook. I'm also on YouTube under Whitney Morgan and
37:49
I you know, I work with private clients. I really in my business.
37:53
I have private coaching packages. I think the thing that that sets me
37:59
apart, or I feel sets me apart from so many other lovely practitioners who
38:02
do what I do is that one, I am a data nerd and I
38:08
love advanced functional lab testing, right, and I'm super strategic about it.
38:14
But number two is I only take a few clients a month because I give
38:20
all my clients unlimited access to me. So I liked to be in a
38:23
constant conversation. And because what you spoke about earlier is so true. It's
38:29
like, you can't go through this alone. And when people sign up with
38:34
a coach, they get so many sessions, once every two weeks, once
38:37
every week, and then they get to the end of their package, right,
38:40
and they're like, oh, my god, I'm going to be on
38:43
my own or I only have one session left and I don't feel like I'm
38:45
all the way there. So I made a change a while back that you
38:50
know what, if you can find time on my schedule, you can get
38:52
on my schedule. If we're going to be on there every day, we
38:54
can be on there every day. Right, you need fifteen minutes, thirty
38:58
minutes, an hour, whatever, because you can't plan for shit to hit
39:02
the fan. Yeah, sometimes, you know, Hick goes crazy on the
39:06
weekend and even on the weekends. My folks, they have unlimited boxer with
39:09
me, unlimited messaging with through a HIPOC compliant portal. So I'm in this
39:15
conversation with my clients. That's why I'm very choosy about who I work with.
39:21
But that's my private business. And what I'm super excited about is actually
39:24
a collaboration that I've been building with my friend and business partner, Paula Reid,
39:31
who's a functional practitioner like me, and we started the Functional Health Alliance
39:37
together, and this is an organization that is really built to be a root
39:42
cause wellness place for people who are kind of de I wining their health.
39:45
They can't afford, you know, to spend one to ten thousand dollars on
39:51
a coach, right, and because it's it's pricey, right, So they
39:54
can't afford that. So where do they go. They go to Google,
39:58
they go to Instagram and f on swers they go. You know, it's
40:00
just like, no, don't do that, right. So the Functional Health
40:04
Alliance, it's it's a private Facebook group for folks who want access to functional
40:09
health coaches that are giving evidence based guidance. We have free q and as.
40:14
We even each hold private office hours, so we've set time in our
40:20
schedule every week. But kind of like going to see your professor in college.
40:23
You know, it's like, hey, these four hours, these are
40:27
my office hours. Yeah, and they're free, little fifteen minutes slots come
40:30
on in, we can chat. It's all virtual, right. We have
40:34
low cost courses for people who need the education. And you know, we're
40:39
really there to be a consistent support system for so many people who are dealing
40:45
with chronic illness. They know they need more, right, but they can't
40:50
afford more. Yeah, so we're really excited about that. Well that that's
40:54
really I'm glad that you brought that up because I had it in my and
40:58
I'm glad that you talked about cause I was going to bring it up because
41:00
it is. It is expensive when you live in pain and you have health
41:04
issues, and not all of us are as fortunate as others when it comes
41:08
to pain for this stuff, because our health insurance is covering things that quite
41:14
frankly, I don't need them to cover, that's right, and they're not
41:16
covering the things I want them to cover, and so it's one of those
41:21
things that is a challenge. And I applaud you and your business partner for
41:23
doing this because it is It's not the first time that I've had a guest
41:27
on the show that is doing something like this, and it's it's it's pretty
41:30
neat, and I'm grateful for you and what you're doing and how your approach
41:37
to care, which obviously is trauma informed. Thank you for doing that for
41:43
all of us. I mean, it's pretty cool. That's pretty cool.
41:45
So we can find her at Whitney Morgan nutrition dot com and she is everywhere
41:51
Whitney Morgan Nutrition, which is so funny because we didn't even really touch on
41:54
Yes, yes, we touched on more of the trauma stuff and all of
42:00
that, but that is a reason for you to get in touch with her
42:02
because her nutrition side of things is pretty interesting in regards to what we're putting
42:07
in our mouth and how it affects our bods. And as you guys know
42:12
from being listeners on the show, with my eating disorder, eating and food
42:15
is a big challenge for me. But man, and it is I know,
42:20
the one thing that I have to fix because I'm not feeding my body
42:23
and because mostly because pains makes me naucious. And I'm like, yeah,
42:27
but thank you so much for today. Oh my god, it's could have
42:30
gone like seventeen sideways. Guys, by the way, like we were,
42:36
could have gone a seventeen hundred directions on this puppy. And I feel like
42:38
we still need to do another one that would just be all crazy out like
42:44
completely unfocused, unfiltered and unfocused and unfocused. We should start a podcast and
42:51
that's what we should call it. Oh, I like this idea. Yeah,
42:53
I'm gonna when we're done with this, I'm gonna keep talking to you.
42:57
Okay, thank you so much for being here with me today. You
43:00
are just adorable. You Oh well, thank you, Dylan. You are
43:06
exclusely invited to share this freedom from our trauma and to find a consistent support
43:12
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43:15
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