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Killers Amongst Us: David Temple beloved coach, murderer? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here, Welcome back to Killers amongst Us,
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  Speaker 1: a production of iHeartMedia and Crime Online. To the world
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  Speaker 1: around them. David and Belinda Temple were the Golden couple.
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  Speaker 1: He's a big man on campus, a football star, she
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  Speaker 1: miss school spirit. Their lives all centered around football. He
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  Speaker 1: even proposes on the fifty yard line. How did it
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  Speaker 1: go so horribly wrong? I Nancy Grace and this is
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  Speaker 1: Killers amongst Us. David's prowess on the football field earns
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  Speaker 1: him a full college scholarship to Stephen F. Austin University
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  Speaker 1: in Texas. David Temple a Texas football star. Everyone wanted
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  Speaker 1: to know him be recognized by him his stunning, charismatic
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  Speaker 1: wife Belinda. They clicked immediately. They were gifted with looks, charm,
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  Speaker 1: and talent. David Temple and Belinda Temple the All American couple.
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  Speaker 1: They've been described as the Golden Boy and the Sunshine
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  Speaker 1: Lady a million times. Everything seemed right in their marriage.
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  Speaker 1: Belinda Gorgeous and her twin sister, Brenda, grew up in
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  Speaker 1: a very loving home in Nagadochis, Texas. Temple David Temple
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  Speaker 1: grew up in Katie, Texas. Not too far away and
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  Speaker 1: was a Katie High School gridiron star. People treated him
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  Speaker 1: like royalty. You know that guy that comes down the
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  Speaker 1: high school hallways and the crowd just kind of parts
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  Speaker 1: to let him come through. That's David Temple. I'm Nitzy
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  Speaker 1: Grace Killers amongst us. Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: You know, joining me right now is now defense attorney,
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  Speaker 1: family law specialist Randall Kessler, forensics expert, Professor Forensics at
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville State University, an author of Blood Beneath My Feet
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  Speaker 1: on Amazon. Joseph Scott Morgan, forensic psychiatrist. Joining me out
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  Speaker 1: of the Florida jurisdiction doctor Daniel Bober. But right now
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to Katie Times owner in Katie, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: Brandy Kelcini with me and Brandy, not only are you
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  Speaker 1: at the Katie Times, but you're from Nagdog. Just tell
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  Speaker 1: me about Nagadogs, because I've got it in my head,
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  Speaker 1: Brandy that it reminds me of where I grew up,
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  Speaker 1: and that was in rural bib County, Middle Georgia. We
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  Speaker 1: like to say Middle Georgia, not South Georgia. Now, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what is that subtle, but apparently very important distinction,
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  Speaker 1: but from Middle Georgia. And we can't really even say
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  Speaker 1: make in Georgia because we were out in the unincorporated
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  Speaker 1: county on a red dirt road and well water where
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  Speaker 1: the bookmobile would bring books to the rural and or
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  Speaker 1: underprivileged children. But I gotta tell you something. It was
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  Speaker 1: beautiful growing up there, far away from crime or any
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  Speaker 1: idea of hate or not getting along. It was a
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  Speaker 1: really rural, bucolic setting. And that's how I have in
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  Speaker 1: my mind that Nagodochus is. Well. I would say that
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  Speaker 1: Nakodochius is like that, as long as you add a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of very very tall trees, lots of pine trees,
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  Speaker 1: lots of pine trees. Tell me about Nagodochus. Now, Nagodochus again,
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  Speaker 1: is where Belinda grew up. Belinda grew up in Nagodochus.
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  Speaker 1: David grew up in Katie. And that's really how this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing starts. Now, I didn't mean to interrupt. You,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and tell me about Nagodochus. Well, So Nakodoches
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  Speaker 1: is considered one of the oldest towns in Texas. So
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  Speaker 1: there was a settlement there about ten thousand years ago
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  Speaker 1: was the site of the cattle Indian man. When you
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  Speaker 1: say old, you really meant it. Okay, Now, what did
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  Speaker 1: you say, ten thousand years ago? Yes, that there are
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  Speaker 1: some artifacts that they have found in the Nakodochs area
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  Speaker 1: that date back that far. Wow, Okay, but I want
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  Speaker 1: to hear about everyday living as it is now. Tell
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  Speaker 1: me about Nagadochis. Although I appreciate the ancient artifacts I do,
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  Speaker 1: but tell me about life now. I mean, when I
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  Speaker 1: grew up my grandmother Lucy. Okay, Okay, all of you
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  Speaker 1: guys stopped groaning, especially you Kessler. I'm sure you're you know,
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  Speaker 1: want to go out and charge your exorbitant hourly fee.
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  Speaker 1: And Joe Scott Morgan wants to go examine some blood
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  Speaker 1: and Bober wants to go examine some person with them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, criminally insane. But just hold on, okay, Because
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  Speaker 1: where I grew up, my mama, Lucy, my grandmother, for
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  Speaker 1: a long time, worked behind the counter at the Woolworths diner.
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  Speaker 1: There was actually a bar in the non alcoholic sense
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  Speaker 1: where you could go and order grilled cheese and that
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  Speaker 1: was the big thing. It was by the piggly Wiggly
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  Speaker 1: and that was the big thing. I could go there
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  Speaker 1: and Mama would fix me and grilled cheese and chocolate milk.
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  Speaker 1: I was in heaven. That was the big thing. Then
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  Speaker 1: we got the dairy Queen, so we were really, really
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  Speaker 1: in high cotton then. So Brandy, owner of the Katie Times,
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  Speaker 1: now that I've told you all about something irrelevant, you
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  Speaker 1: tell me about Nagadoches. Well, Nagadochs is the quintessential small
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  Speaker 1: college town. So much of the community is based around
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  Speaker 1: Stephen of Boston University, which is right in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of town. There are lots and lots of trees everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: and one of the great things on campus is a
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  Speaker 1: little log cabin that is original to that area from
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  Speaker 1: when the first settlers came to Texas. So wait, are
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  Speaker 1: you telling me that American Indians lived in a log cabin? No, No,
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  Speaker 1: the first American settlers came to that area. Now that
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  Speaker 1: the American Indians are not gonna like that. You said that,
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  Speaker 1: just know that, and I just want to put it
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  Speaker 1: out there. I have nothing to do, no control over
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  Speaker 1: what she just said. All right, So I get it.
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Austin University has a log cabin on campus. That
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  Speaker 1: was one of the thee or one of the very first.
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  Speaker 1: It was one of the very first settlement. Wow, okay, Now,
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  Speaker 1: what was life like growing up in Negadition? No, I
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  Speaker 1: would say what we always thought it was was fairly,
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  Speaker 1: you know, typical of any other small American town. The
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  Speaker 1: kids went out on Friday nights. Football was king. You
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  Speaker 1: had went out and partied on Saturday night with all
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  Speaker 1: your friends. And there were, you know, several specific places
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  Speaker 1: that you hung out, especially as a college student. There
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  Speaker 1: were a couple of clubs that were the popular places
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  Speaker 1: to go, and there were a couple of key restaurants
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  Speaker 1: that you always went to on a regular basis. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying. In high school you
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  Speaker 1: went to a club. All we got to do is
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  Speaker 1: go to Shakey's Pizza and that was a big night.
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  Speaker 1: And if I was not home by a quarter of eleven,
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  Speaker 1: my father would and did come looking for me. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna tell you what happened when he found me either,
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  Speaker 1: but I'd like to forget that moment. But what do
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  Speaker 1: you mean clubs in high school? There were a lot
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  Speaker 1: of dance Oh no, there were a lot of dance
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  Speaker 1: clubs there in Nacodote, just mainly because it was a
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  Speaker 1: college town. And back then in the eighties, Nakodoches and
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  Speaker 1: Stephen F. Auston was known as a party school. So
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the kids in the area would graduate
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  Speaker 1: from high school and go to Stephen F. Austen. That
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  Speaker 1: was a standard path if you wanted to get a
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  Speaker 1: college education, was to just go right there in your backyard. Well,
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  Speaker 1: this is what I know about Stephen F. Austin. I
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  Speaker 1: know that it's a public university in nagadochus and it
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  Speaker 1: was originally founded as a teacher's college in nineteen twenty
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  Speaker 1: three and named after a guy that helped established Texas,
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Austin. And I'm really curious about its football program.
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  Speaker 1: But hey, I'm getting ahead of myself. Randy keion SENI
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  Speaker 1: owner of the Katie Times. So that is where Belinda
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  Speaker 1: grows up and she heads to Stephen F. Austin State University.
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  Speaker 1: But what was her family like? I was recently giving
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  Speaker 1: a speech in Port Huron, way up on the Canadian border,
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  Speaker 1: and believe it or not, out of the blue ran
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  Speaker 1: into her sister. And I was amazed, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've felt that I knew her sister for a really
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  Speaker 1: long time. But tell me about her family life. Blenda's
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  Speaker 1: family life growing up well. Growing up, she and her
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  Speaker 1: twin sister, they were very active in sports. She a
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  Speaker 1: blend of herself, played basketball and was named All District
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  Speaker 1: as a senior at Nacodoch's High School. She graduated from
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  Speaker 1: their nineteen eighty seven. She was also voted the girl
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  Speaker 1: with the most school Spirit at Nakodochri's High School. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm identifying with that. To Randy Kessler, defense attorney, I
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  Speaker 1: guess you're not surprised that I won Miss School Spirit
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  Speaker 1: several times in a row. I just know that deep
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  Speaker 1: inside you are arguing with miss school Spirit and what
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  Speaker 1: have you done with your life? Huh? Look at that? Amazing?
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  Speaker 1: But you know, to Joseph Scott Morgan, when you are
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  Speaker 1: I mean you and I know what lies ahead in
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  Speaker 1: this story. But it always is when you go into
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  Speaker 1: a crime scene, Joe Scott Morgan, I used to do
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  Speaker 1: this all the time when I was investigating, and this
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  Speaker 1: was a very poignant moment for me. And it happened
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  Speaker 1: all the time. I would go to a crime scene
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  Speaker 1: or someone's home or meet with their sister, and I
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  Speaker 1: would get a glimpse of the players as they were
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  Speaker 1: in their youth, before life took a toll on them.
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  Speaker 1: Does that when you are ever on a crime scene,
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  Speaker 1: or you're called out, or you're investigating, do you ever think,
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  Speaker 1: how in the world do we get here or get
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  Speaker 1: a glimpse of these people before they hit the headlines? Yeah, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: that's it's a long crooked path. Lots of times when
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  Speaker 1: you look at you know, how these lives, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just kind of intersect and wind up in these horrific situations.
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  Speaker 1: I make this comment many times when I'm speaking publicly
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  Speaker 1: and also to my students at JSU, I'll say that
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  Speaker 1: as cromp scene investigators, as death investigators, were always having
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  Speaker 1: to look at things, look at the abnormal in the
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  Speaker 1: context of the normal, and sometimes it's really quite striking. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's an incredible quote right there, looking at the abnormal
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  Speaker 1: into context of the normal. Did I get at Bass
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  Speaker 1: Ackwards or is that what you said? Yes, ma'am, that's
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  Speaker 1: absolute correct. And to doctor Daniel Vover, so often we
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  Speaker 1: look at crime stories or crime scenes or read the news,
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  Speaker 1: and we look at these players as if we're looking
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  Speaker 1: at a tarantula under a glass box, like they're different
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  Speaker 1: from us. But you hear what Brandy Kean Seni at
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  Speaker 1: Katie Times is saying, Belinda grew up as a basketball
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  Speaker 1: star and as miss school Spirit. I mean, what could
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  Speaker 1: be more wholesome and more scrubbed in sunshine than that?
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  Speaker 1: You know what, Nancy, I always say with people, you
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  Speaker 1: get two things, what you see and what they want
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  Speaker 1: to show you. And a lot of times families have
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  Speaker 1: secrets and things are never what they seem from outward appearances.
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  Speaker 1: Linda grew up in a very loving home. She excelled
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  Speaker 1: in basketball, Miss school Spirit. She was definitely a looker,
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  Speaker 1: really really pretty young girl. What about him, Well, he
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  Speaker 1: was mister football. He was part of the football team
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  Speaker 1: there at Katie High School, and Katie is a powerhouse
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  Speaker 1: in Texas sport and in particular in Texas football. And
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  Speaker 1: because he was a star linebacker his senior year, everybody
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  Speaker 1: knew him. You know that's funny you said that, Brandy,
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  Speaker 1: because suddenly, just at that moment, took me back to
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  Speaker 1: my freshman year at Valdosta State College now as Kaldosta University,
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  Speaker 1: pretty much at the Florida Georgia border. And I remember
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  Speaker 1: the first Friday night I was at college. I was
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  Speaker 1: in my dorm and all of a sudden, I heard
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  Speaker 1: what sounded like the drumbeats of a war party. It
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  Speaker 1: sounded like a war beat, and I said, what is that? Well,
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  Speaker 1: the local football team Lowndes County is like what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: It was the state powerhouse and all the way across
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  Speaker 1: town you could hear the band music. Because it was
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  Speaker 1: Friday night, they were getting ready to play football. At
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  Speaker 1: my little high school, you know, football was a big
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  Speaker 1: deal and a huge big deal. The only sport for
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  Speaker 1: girls was basketball. Twenty five girls tried out, twenty four
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  Speaker 1: girls made the team. I was the one that got cut,
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  Speaker 1: just so you know, not better, not better, It is
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  Speaker 1: because they only had X number of uniforms. So somebody
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  Speaker 1: had to go and it was me. Hence my career
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  Speaker 1: and cheerleading, and that's how I really learned about football.
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  Speaker 1: I watched so many football game as a cheerleader. But
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  Speaker 1: I remember that drumbeat, and I hear what you're saying, Brandy,
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  Speaker 1: football was king. Now. Tell so where does David Temple
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  Speaker 1: fit into that? Well, he was the star. He was
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  Speaker 1: one of the top players on their team, and the
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  Speaker 1: his senior year, they had an undefeated season and the
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  Speaker 1: word district champions and that goes a long way here
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  Speaker 1: in Texas. So after he graduated, he went to SFA
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  Speaker 1: and played football there. Now, tell me about his family, Well,
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  Speaker 1: he has his parents are there in Katie and he
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  Speaker 1: has a brother who is now married, and they were
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  Speaker 1: pretty close and were very supportive of him and what
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to do and where he wanted to go. Well,
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  Speaker 1: what did he want to do and where did he
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  Speaker 1: want to go? Well, he wanted to go as far
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  Speaker 1: as he could with his football career and eventually become
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  Speaker 1: a teacher. And that's what most you know, what a
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  Speaker 1: lot of guys will do when they want to play football,
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  Speaker 1: They play as long as they can, and then they
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  Speaker 1: coach it because they absolutely love the game. Well, I've
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  Speaker 1: got to tell you something in this day and age,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Brandy, when my son was three, he had
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  Speaker 1: a horrible blow to the head at a birthday party
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  Speaker 1: and he was in the hospital for four days. At
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  Speaker 1: age three, he had a horrible concussion. Excuse me, age
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  Speaker 1: four and I have you know and goes. I've always
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  Speaker 1: encouraged him to play soccer or play golf, played something
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  Speaker 1: other than football. The other day, he was in the
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  Speaker 1: front yard. Somebody gave him a football, he got it out,
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  Speaker 1: he threw it across the front yard. I went, oh,
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  Speaker 1: dear Lord in Heaven, he had an arm like a bullet. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I hope no football coach sees that, because you cannot
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  Speaker 1: take another blow to the head. But Brandy, I hear
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying. So they both end up headed to
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  Speaker 1: Stephen F. Austin State University. Listen, David's proud. It's on
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  Speaker 1: the football field Stephen F. Austin University in Texas. Once there,
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  Speaker 1: it's not surprising that girls flocked to David's side, and
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  Speaker 1: he feels entitled to the prettiest girl in the room.
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  Speaker 1: Then one day in the fall of nineteen ninety, David
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  Speaker 1: sees a striking blonde around campus. Her name is Belinda.
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  Speaker 1: Belinda was working with the football team. She was in
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  Speaker 1: the athletic program at the same college, and they met
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  Speaker 1: through the football program there and they clicked immediately. Not
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  Speaker 1: only is Belinda gorgeous, she has a great personality. She's
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  Speaker 1: always had a smile on her face, and she loved life.
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  Speaker 1: She loved people. She was just a wonderful person, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and everyone that didn't know her wanted to know her
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  Speaker 1: as soon as they met her, just simply because she
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  Speaker 1: was so much fun to be around. You are hearing
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  Speaker 1: our friends Nicole Blackman and Catherine Casey ud scorned. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So they meet at stephen Austin. They meet at Stephen
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  Speaker 1: Austin University and apparently it's love at first sight, and
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  Speaker 1: David is completely taken with Belinda. It's love at first sight.
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  Speaker 1: He was very affectionate with her. He always had his
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  Speaker 1: arm around her. He would always touch her or play
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  Speaker 1: with her hair. David could be incredibly romantic. He was
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  Speaker 1: the kind of guy who showed up with roses and
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  Speaker 1: left little love notes on a windshield when he saw
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  Speaker 1: his girlfriend's car. It's a whirlwind courtship. Classmates even give
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  Speaker 1: them the nickname the Golden Couple. And after dating for
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  Speaker 1: just eleven months, David proposes. He came over Nash for
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  Speaker 1: a hand in marriage, and we thought that was a
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  Speaker 1: neat thing when he proposed. He did it in a
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  Speaker 1: very remarkable, unforgettable way. He proposed on the football field
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  Speaker 1: where he had all of his great victories and He
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  Speaker 1: got down on his knees and asked her to marry him,
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  Speaker 1: and she agreed to. He did everything the fairytale way,
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  Speaker 1: very very romantic. She loved him very much. He was
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  Speaker 1: her world. She wanted to be a wife, she wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be a mother. That's what she wanted to do.
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  Speaker 1: It does sound like a fairy tale. Those were our friends,
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  Speaker 1: Nicole Blackman and Katherine Casey. An interesting Tom Lucas that
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  Speaker 1: is Belinda's dad talking about the proposal with me. Randy Kessler,
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  Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan, doctor Daniel Bober and Brandy Kosini Kenny
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  Speaker 1: Times owner. Brandy tell me about the proposal and the wedding. Well,
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  Speaker 1: so he proposed on the football field was a very
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  Speaker 1: important thing for him, and they were married in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety two and Acadochus, which is her hometown. Brandy, hold on,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm so happy I get to correct you.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't just the football field. It was the fifty
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  Speaker 1: yard line, is my understanding. It was the fifty yard line.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so happy about my irrelevant fact. Okay, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: He you know, one of the things that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people don't realize is that he was part of
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  Speaker 1: the championship team at SFA for their conference, and that
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  Speaker 1: happened in nineteen eighty nine, and then they had in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety and then got married in nineteen ninety two.
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  Speaker 1: So where he proposed to her had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: significance for him because they won a lot of games
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  Speaker 1: during his time there, you know, to forensic psychiatrists, doctor
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Bober joining me, doctor Bober, a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: would you have a field day with the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he proposed on the fifty yard line of a football field.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that I would read that
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  Speaker 1: much into it. He's a young guy and he can't
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  Speaker 1: really this is his world, and I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: at that time could think beyond that proposal location. But
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  Speaker 1: what do you make of it? I don't think much
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  Speaker 1: could be gleaned from that. I mean, I think he
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  Speaker 1: probably thought it was a pretty neat and interesting thing.
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  Speaker 1: But like you said, that's his world, that's what he's
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  Speaker 1: surrounded by, so for him it probably made perfect sense. Now,
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  Speaker 1: some people would argue that she's just another victory, She's
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  Speaker 1: like another trophy, because he is proposing right there on
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  Speaker 1: the fifty yard line, and you know, I guess there's
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  Speaker 1: some validity to that way. In Doctor Robbie Ludwig do
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  Speaker 1: people meet and fall in love in college? It's really
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  Speaker 1: a time of innocence, and college can feel like the
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  Speaker 1: real world, but as we know, real life is far
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  Speaker 1: more complex and challenging, and so there's this kind of
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  Speaker 1: pseudo reality that happens within a collegiate environment. Especially when
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  Speaker 1: you have somebody who is a star football player who
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  Speaker 1: has some celebrity, It can create an environment that feels
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  Speaker 1: like everything is within your control. And just on top
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  Speaker 1: of that, you know, really, what we know about younger
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  Speaker 1: relationships and why it's so important to really give yourself
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  Speaker 1: time before making a final choice and a spouse, is
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  Speaker 1: that really the frontal cortex of your brain is not
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  Speaker 1: fully developed, so your ability really to understand cause and
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  Speaker 1: effect and to really know who you are doesn't happen
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  Speaker 1: until slightly later in life. Take a listen to our
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  Speaker 1: friends at forty eight Hours Off the field. He was
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a romantic, especially when it came to
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  Speaker 1: an attractive, fizzed major Belinda Lucas. She's just naturally god
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  Speaker 1: given duty, but on the inside she's prettier that she
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  Speaker 1: was because she would do anything for anybody. I'm in
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  Speaker 1: Carol Lucas for her hand. That is very old fashioned
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  Speaker 1: to ask her, what did you make of that? I
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  Speaker 1: made that, you know, this pretty neat guy. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think young men did that in these days. With her
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  Speaker 1: parents blessing, David proposed to Belinda in the most sentimental
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  Speaker 1: setting he could imagine. I took her down in the
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  Speaker 1: fifth yard, lining got down and told her how much
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  Speaker 1: I vowed her and actress she'd married me. You're hearing
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  Speaker 1: Belinda's parents and David Temple speaking about the proposal, the engagement,
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  Speaker 1: and then the wedding. Brandy tell me about the wedding, well,
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  Speaker 1: I would say it was a typical East Texas wedding
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  Speaker 1: with flowers and happiness. And you know in East Texas,
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  Speaker 1: you know, especially in the eighties and nineties, there was
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  Speaker 1: lots of big hair, so, you know, you it was
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  Speaker 1: just indicative of the time. Everything was big. So it
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  Speaker 1: was big hair, big flowers, big dress, big you know, attendance,
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  Speaker 1: so and lots of happiness. It was a truly joyous time.
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  Speaker 1: Looking at a picture of them driving away from their wedding,
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  Speaker 1: and Belinda's just beautiful. She's got on an off the
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  Speaker 1: shoulder wedding dress. It looks a little bit like Princess
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  Speaker 1: Diana's dress and her hair beautiful. She's wearing pearls, he's driving,
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  Speaker 1: he still has on his black tugs. He's looking handsome.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just looking at all the wedding photos right now,
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  Speaker 1: and they really are just stunning. She's beautiful, he looks
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  Speaker 1: so happy. We're talking about the wedding of Belinda and
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  Speaker 1: David Temple. So off they go to set the world
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  Speaker 1: on fire, hand in hand. Then when the honeymoon is over,
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  Speaker 1: they settle in for happily ever after, let's go to
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  Speaker 1: cut four. David gets a job teaching at a local
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  Speaker 1: high school, where he also becomes an assistant football coach,
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  Speaker 1: and Belinda gets a teaching job at David's alma mater,
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  Speaker 1: Katie High School. She's adored by her colleagues. We called
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  Speaker 1: her our sunshine lady. She would send cute little emails
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  Speaker 1: to teachers, and she was just a bubbly young woman
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  Speaker 1: and loved teaching. You were hearing our friend Nicole Blackman
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  Speaker 1: speaking at Scorned. You know, it seems like it's a
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  Speaker 1: picture perfect life. So Randy keion Cini with me, owner
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  Speaker 1: of the Katie Times. It seems like they really took
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  Speaker 1: to teaching. Oh they did. They. You know, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot to being a teacher. It can't just be a vocation.
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  Speaker 1: It has to be a passion, and that is exactly
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  Speaker 1: what it was for both of them. For him, it
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  Speaker 1: made sense. He started in sports and was a football player,
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  Speaker 1: went into college, got his you know, got his degrees,
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  Speaker 1: and then went to Ali Pacings High School and was
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  Speaker 1: a coach and a teacher, And so that makes absolute sense.
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  Speaker 1: For Belinda, it absolutely was a passion. When she got
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  Speaker 1: her job at Katie High School, she was a special
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  Speaker 1: education teacher. When they think about when you think about teachers,
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  Speaker 1: it is not an easy job in the best of circumstances.
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  Speaker 1: When you deal with special needs children on a variety
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  Speaker 1: of levels. You have to be completely adaptable to each
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  Speaker 1: individual student in every aspect of what they need. Times ten.
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  Speaker 1: And she was, by all accounts, extremely happy in her job.
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  Speaker 1: She loved it, She loved her students and she would
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  Speaker 1: always go the extra mile for them. Here's our friend,
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  Speaker 1: Richard's lessinger. They married and both ended up working with children. Belinda,
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  Speaker 1: they married and both ended up working with children. Belinda
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  Speaker 1: taught special ed at Katie High where her husband had
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  Speaker 1: ruled on the football field. She was such a great
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  Speaker 1: teacher because she loved kids and she understood the kids
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  Speaker 1: so well. Debbie Burger, who taught in the same classroom,
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  Speaker 1: was a close friend. She was a strong person, very direct,
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  Speaker 1: but yet very loving and warm. David landed a job
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  Speaker 1: in a nearby town, teaching and coaching alongside his old
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  Speaker 1: rival Wade lucern Oh. I thought he was good a
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  Speaker 1: coach I've ever worked with, and I'm coached for thirty
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  Speaker 1: six years. He'd take guys maybe weren't as good, and
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  Speaker 1: he would always try to bring their level up. No,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: It's interesting to doctor Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist, the significance
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  Speaker 1: of going back home after college. When you graduate, you
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  Speaker 1: start a new life, but you return home to Katie, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean, if anything, to you. He goes
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  Speaker 1: back to where he was the big man on campus
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  Speaker 1: to get a job right back at his old high school.
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  Speaker 1: One Nancy with that tells me is that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he kind of goes back to the place where he
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  Speaker 1: had his status, where he was, you know, on top.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that happens for a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: when they, you know, are in an area where that
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  Speaker 1: was where they were prominent, they want to go back
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  Speaker 1: to sort of relive those glory days, if you will.
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  Speaker 1: What about it, Brandy Brandy Key on SNI with Me,
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  Speaker 1: owner of the Katie Times. It may mean nothing, but
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  Speaker 1: it may mean something. To tell me about it, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I would agree in a lot of instances, when you
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  Speaker 1: have people, young people who are very popular in their community,
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  Speaker 1: especially in a smaller community as Katie was back then,
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  Speaker 1: they go off to college, they are in their degree,
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  Speaker 1: and they want to come back because they want to
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  Speaker 1: relive that time and they want to be close to
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  Speaker 1: their families when they start their own families. So it
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  Speaker 1: made complete sense that that's where they went. So the
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  Speaker 1: two are back and it's not long until they discover
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have a baby. To really complete that
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  Speaker 1: perfect picture, how long have they been married, Brandy before
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  Speaker 1: she gets pregnant. They were married a little over two
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  Speaker 1: years when she got pregnant, and Evan was born in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five. So, Brandy, what could you tell me
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  Speaker 1: about their neighborhood? Where did they live, where did they
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  Speaker 1: settle down and have the first baby? Well, they lived
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: in a small neighborhood right right in the middle of Katie,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: and it was a great little house, and that it
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: was a great place to start a family. This was
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a community of a lot of small families and it
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  Speaker 1: was just a great starter place. It wasn't long after
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  Speaker 1: that that she finds out she's pregnant again, and my world,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that was the happy, happiest time in my life when
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I realized my dream of having a child was coming true.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: After the murder of my fiance so many years before,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I thought it would never happen. And not only did
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  Speaker 1: it happen, I had blessings rained down on my head.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I never imagined I had twins. But for Belinda, it
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: was bitter sweet. When David tells When David tells Belinda
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  Speaker 1: he's not sure if he still loves her, she's completely devastating.
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  Speaker 1: It would be a matter of months before everything blows
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  Speaker 1: sky high. Nancy Grace Killers of must Us, Goodbye friend.