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Sounds Like Terrorism to Me · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews you need to start
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Speaker 1: your day. You're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Thursday morning, twelfth day of December. I'm West Thanks for
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Speaker 2: joining me. For those of you who reached out yesterday. Yes,
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Speaker 2: I know there was a typo in the title of
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Speaker 2: the episode. Should be taken care of now, by the way, No,
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Speaker 2: I know that we're not in bog trouble. It's a
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Speaker 2: question of whether we were in big trouble. I continue
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Speaker 2: on with that thought line though today as we move
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Speaker 2: on through this week, couple of weeks out from Christmas
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Speaker 2: and this whole holiday season, and that's coming up quickly.
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Speaker 2: Before I get into the topic for today, which is
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Speaker 2: not too dissimilar from yesterday's topic, except a little more extreme,
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Speaker 2: I want to talk about Columbus State University's graduation tonight.
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Speaker 2: I'll be doing the mceing or whatever, I don't know what.
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Speaker 2: I'm the voice of Columbus State University Academics. My good
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Speaker 2: friend Scott Miller is the voice of Columbus State University Athletics.
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Speaker 2: I'm the voice of academics as the guy who announces
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Speaker 2: the names of the graduates. The hooding ceremony is tonight.
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Speaker 2: Anyone who is getting that advanced degree, congratulations, look forward
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Speaker 2: to being part of your big night this evening. Anybody
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Speaker 2: else it's graduating from Columbus State, not receiving, and some
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Speaker 2: of the people that all announced tonight will also get
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Speaker 2: announced tomorrow for the graduation ceremony as well, But looking
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Speaker 2: forward to being part of both of those. I'm always
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Speaker 2: honored flattered to be part of it. At some point,
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Speaker 2: my name came up years ago, many many years ago
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Speaker 2: as the as a candidate to do this, and I
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Speaker 2: actually did it for a different event for Columbus State
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Speaker 2: where a bunch of names had to be read, and
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Speaker 2: I guess it was sort of a semi audition for this,
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Speaker 2: and I just enjoy it. It's if everybody tells me
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Speaker 2: it's got to be tough. Sure, there's a lot of names.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of names to read. Even if they
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Speaker 2: were all you know, John and Jane Smith, it's still
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Speaker 2: a lot of names to read. The fact that it's
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Speaker 2: also you know, we have a lot of students that
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Speaker 2: come to Columbus State and to our area to be
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Speaker 2: part of that university, and they come from all over
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Speaker 2: the world and learning how to pronounce names from different
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Speaker 2: parts of the world. There's some experience that's come over
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Speaker 2: the years and being able to get as many of
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Speaker 2: them right as I can. I'll do my best tonight.
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Speaker 2: The hooding ceremony also involves reading a short, little couple
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Speaker 2: of lines that they write, maybe to their family or
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Speaker 2: their professors. At least one of them I saw had
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Speaker 2: some Spanish, so I'm gonna have to brush up on
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Speaker 2: my Spanish a little bit over the course of the
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Speaker 2: day today. Nothing overly complicated. They didn't throw any huge
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Speaker 2: words at me, but I've got to at least brush
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Speaker 2: up on it just a little bit. Want to do
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Speaker 2: it justice, want to do it right, and that's part
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Speaker 2: of it. That's part of it. You've got to try
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Speaker 2: to get it as close to where it needs to
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Speaker 2: be as possible. And when I say as close as
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Speaker 2: it needs to be, what's satisfying to the graduate. That's
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Speaker 2: how I look at it and their family. Sometimes the
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Speaker 2: student says, I don't really care, but I know my
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Speaker 2: mom's going to want to hear it this way concerning
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Speaker 2: a name, and I say, I want to get it
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Speaker 2: how a mom's going to want to hear it or
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Speaker 2: Grandma is going to want to hear it, her dad's
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Speaker 2: going to want to hear it. And I also years
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Speaker 2: ago there was a student who was from Iceland and
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Speaker 2: she said, the whole time she lived here, no one
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Speaker 2: ever said her name correctly, and I was able to
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Speaker 2: say it correctly at graduation. Her dad came up and
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Speaker 2: shook my hand after and said thank you. Finally somebody
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Speaker 2: got it right as she's finishing up. So again, I
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Speaker 2: appreciate them giving me the really the honor and privilege
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Speaker 2: to do it. Yes, it's challenging. Yes, it's a long
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Speaker 2: couple of days, like a twenty four hour period of
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Speaker 2: saying a bunch of names and speaking a bunch of names.
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Speaker 2: But I do, in the end, really enjoy it. And
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Speaker 2: I appreciate my alma mater giving me the opportunity to
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Speaker 2: come back and do that. I want to talk today
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Speaker 2: following up on yesterday, and I feel like it now
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Speaker 2: needs to be elevated just a little bit. We were
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Speaker 2: talking about the now arrested and charged shooter in the
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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas murder, the CEO I'm sorry Brian Thompson murder,
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Speaker 2: the ce of United Healthcare who was shot down, and
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Speaker 2: this is this is I feel like it's time to
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Speaker 2: sort of escalate where we are on this, and I
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Speaker 2: talked about this yesterday. I know that we have a
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Speaker 2: number of people that sort of make a lot of
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Speaker 2: noise and make things seem like there's more of them
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Speaker 2: making noise than they really are. This was certainly the
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Speaker 2: case with social media platforms like Twitter before Elon Musk
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Speaker 2: took it over or purchased it and just take it over,
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Speaker 2: purchased it and then took it over and clean things
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Speaker 2: up there a bit. I think it's it's certainly still there.
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Speaker 2: But it's one thing when we talk about mobs of
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Speaker 2: people online that are doing things like, you know, review
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Speaker 2: bombing a movie or a TV show, and then another
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Speaker 2: group is maybe positively review bombing it and they're fighting
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Speaker 2: back and forth about it. That's one of those things
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Speaker 2: that it's unfortunate. It's not really sad. I mean, it's
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Speaker 2: a little sad when you think about how it's got
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Speaker 2: people's careers at stake and things like that. But for
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Speaker 2: the most part, if a movie comes out or a
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Speaker 2: TV show comes out and people kind of think this
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Speaker 2: isn't what I wanted it to be. You know. However,
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Speaker 2: you wanted to find that it's not as good as
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Speaker 2: I wanted it to be, or it's much more woke
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Speaker 2: than it should be. Then you know, they might find
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Speaker 2: a need to get online and tell everybody that it
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Speaker 2: stinks or that it's awful, And in some cases it's
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Speaker 2: just an expression of hay, I didn't like it. And
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Speaker 2: then for some on the other side of it, maybe
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Speaker 2: that likes the woke storyline or hey, let's make the
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Speaker 2: Little Mermaid black or you know, whatever it might be,
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Speaker 2: they say, well, no, no, people aren't saying it's a
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Speaker 2: bad movie or a bad TV show. They're just hating
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Speaker 2: on it because they think it's woke. And look, that's all.
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Speaker 2: That's all something that's out there. But it's important to
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Speaker 2: note that there was actually a point when the Star
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Speaker 2: Wars sequels came out the episode's seven, eight, and nine.
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Speaker 2: I think it was particularly episode eight this was true
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Speaker 2: of and you know, it was one of those movies
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Speaker 2: that maybe initially people came out of and thought, wow,
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Speaker 2: this is kind of fresh and different, and then as
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Speaker 2: it kind of sat with you, it was like, well,
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Speaker 2: wait a minute, they've just you know, really ruined what
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Speaker 2: Star Wars was supposed to be or what it meant
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Speaker 2: to me as a kid. Some got that immediately after
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Speaker 2: watching it. But what's interesting about it is there were
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Speaker 2: studies that were done about some of the review bombing
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Speaker 2: of it and some of the or on both sides, really,
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Speaker 2: and they found that it was coming from overseas. It
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Speaker 2: was coming from Russia, it was coming from China, it
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Speaker 2: was coming from North Korea. There were places that were
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Speaker 2: contributing to the discussion about it. And the speculation then was, well,
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Speaker 2: let's see what this sort of upheaval can cause. Let's
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Speaker 2: see what we can do as far as disruptions go.
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Speaker 2: Have they learned from that? I don't know. Is what
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Speaker 2: we're experiencing now with this murder. A part of that,
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Speaker 2: maybe a little, I don't know. But the fact that
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Speaker 2: we now have faces and voices to go not just
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Speaker 2: with the crime, but also with people that you may
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Speaker 2: know that have turned to terrorism. And that's the word
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Speaker 2: that I feel like we have to ask late too
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Speaker 2: now because this shooter, and I said his name the
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Speaker 2: other day, he's not a hero to me. He shouldn't
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Speaker 2: be a hero to anyone. He murdered a human being
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Speaker 2: in cold blood. The fact that we have people in
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Speaker 2: society that are praising him and hailing him a hero
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Speaker 2: is very disturbing to me. They feel like that this
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Speaker 2: is some sort of a blow to big corporate health
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Speaker 2: care and it somehow is sticking up for them, fighting
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Speaker 2: for their rights. Look, everyone's health care story is different.
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Speaker 2: Everyone's is different unless you're one of those people who's
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Speaker 2: been blessed to just stay healthy their whole lives. If
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Speaker 2: you've ever had to have treatment, if you've ever had
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Speaker 2: a need to have health insurance, if you've ever had
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Speaker 2: health insurance and filed a claim that wasn't approved, if
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Speaker 2: you've ever had a hard time paying your medical bills,
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Speaker 2: all of those stories may have some uniformity to them,
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Speaker 2: but they're all unique and different. You may be someone
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Speaker 2: who has lived their entire life and you've had health
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Speaker 2: insurance and you've never needed it, and that is a
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Speaker 2: blessing in its own right. Both of those are blessings.
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Speaker 2: Not everyone has it. Not everyone has it and doesn't
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Speaker 2: need it. So the healthcare story is certainly a complicated one.
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Speaker 2: But this idea that murder is somehow the solution to
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Speaker 2: the problem of health care, and the fact that there
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Speaker 2: are people saying that this guy is any sort of
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Speaker 2: a hero for what he did? And yesterday I told
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Speaker 2: you like it. You know what extreme do we take
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Speaker 2: this as far as calling someone heroic for doing something
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Speaker 2: like this? Now I really feel like it's in many
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Speaker 2: cases found that escalation to terrorism. Remember, there was a
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Speaker 2: time when if someone did something that falled under the
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Speaker 2: textbook definition of terrorism, using fear, using threats for the
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Speaker 2: benefit of your personal agenda, even if it's a what
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Speaker 2: you consider to be a justified cause, even if it's
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Speaker 2: something that many find to be a justified cause, but
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Speaker 2: killing or threatening to kill someone in the name of
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Speaker 2: a cause was considered terrorism. And see, we've sort of
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Speaker 2: wiped away this notion of terrorism. We went through this
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Speaker 2: phase post nine to eleven, and then we've had so
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Speaker 2: many people that have made up their mind that the
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Speaker 2: World Trade Center attacks were an inside job. And I
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Speaker 2: constantly see that. I constantly hear the discussions about that.
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Speaker 2: People want to talk to you about that, and it's
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Speaker 2: that dangerous lied between. It's just people having a conversation
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Speaker 2: about it, and they can have their opinions or whatever
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Speaker 2: they want to have, which they can, but when those
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Speaker 2: discussions turn to no, this is absolute fact it's no
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Speaker 2: longer a conspiracy theory, it's a fact, and that the
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Speaker 2: people who were responsible deserve to die. See, this is
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Speaker 2: where we go. This is the path. We quickly get
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Speaker 2: to a take and then the outcome we quickly get to.
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Speaker 2: There are people who not only think that Brian Thompson
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Speaker 2: was justifiably murdered and that his family should suffer the
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Speaker 2: way families of people who didn't get their coverage for
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Speaker 2: a surgery or a treatment to save the life of
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Speaker 2: a family member, that it's okay that they're suffering. There's
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Speaker 2: people who, as we talked about yesterday, Taylor Laurens, the
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Speaker 2: former Washington Post writer and I Guess Now podcaster, said
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Speaker 2: she felt some joy, and then she kind of took
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Speaker 2: back the word joy and just said she just doesn't
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Speaker 2: feel empathy for the people who suffered because people like
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Speaker 2: Brian Thompson running United Healthcare have allowed other people to
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Speaker 2: die in the name of the dollar. Even if that's true,
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Speaker 2: even if that's what your belief is. When we crossed
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Speaker 2: the line to he deserved to die for it, and
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Speaker 2: that his family deserves to suffer for it, and that
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Speaker 2: maybe there are others who should be killed. Now we
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Speaker 2: have ventured into terrorism and if this charged individual, and
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Speaker 2: it seems based on as they're putting together all of
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Speaker 2: the charges and his motives, it seems at the very
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Speaker 2: least he had some sort of a neck injury or
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Speaker 2: back injury and he had suffered in pain. He was isolated,
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Speaker 2: and eventually he got to the point where apparently allegedly,
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Speaker 2: he decided that Brian Thompson needed to die. So is
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Speaker 2: there any other influence I guess maybe that we could
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Speaker 2: pull from to find out how he got to this point?
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Speaker 2: Are people posting memes about how first of all, and
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Speaker 2: we talked about it yesterday Burger King not being a snitch,
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Speaker 2: which I sure hope that was fake. And I'm sure
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Speaker 2: it was memes with Nagan from The Walking Dead with
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Speaker 2: his little pig little pig line from the show of
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Speaker 2: the Walking Dead, and they're saying that's him. That should
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Speaker 2: be people. That's what the CEOs of other healthcare companies
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Speaker 2: should be fearing whenever they try to do their work,
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Speaker 2: that they're going to be other people maybe to come
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Speaker 2: after them. He's out there with his bat Lucille with
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Speaker 2: the bar wire on it. That's terrorism, right, threatening it
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Speaker 2: suggesting that it should be done. That is terrorism, right,
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Speaker 2: I mean, how is that different than any terrorist that's
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Speaker 2: ever walked the planet. How is that different? I mean,
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Speaker 2: if you're trying to scare people, and we've justified this
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Speaker 2: notion of terrorism, as we had people threatening Supreme Court justices.
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Speaker 2: We've had people making threats to politicians. Remember when Kirsten
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Speaker 2: Cinema was in the Capitol Building and she had to
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Speaker 2: run into the bathroom, into a bathroom stall to avoid
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Speaker 2: people who were harassing her there. Now, keep in mind,
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Speaker 2: if you're chasing an active sitting member of the Senate
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Speaker 2: into a bathroom stall and you chase her in there
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Speaker 2: with cameras going, that's not anything. That's just people exercising
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Speaker 2: their rights. People go into the Capitol building and walk
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Speaker 2: around and it's you know, they're trying to have a
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Speaker 2: it's a treasonous takeover attempt as they walk around and
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Speaker 2: sit in the desk, no politicians there to be chased around.
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Speaker 2: It's a very different take that we have on what
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Speaker 2: constitutes some sort of treason, right, And that's true with terrorism.
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Speaker 2: We've decided that burning down cities to protest things, threatening
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Speaker 2: to choke people, first of all, calling an entire jury
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Speaker 2: racist because they did not prosecute a man who was
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Speaker 2: defending people on a subway train that had been threatened
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Speaker 2: and accusing Black Lives Matter, accusing the jury of being racist,
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Speaker 2: accusing him of being racist, and basically saying, you know,
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Speaker 2: we're gonna have to get ours and not just Black
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Speaker 2: Lives Matter, others on behalf of justice. The riots, the burning,
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Speaker 2: the molotov cocktails, the businesses being destroyed, the people dying
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Speaker 2: in the name of well, this is for a justified cause.
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Speaker 2: We were told during COVID you needed to stay out
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Speaker 2: of groups, except if you're protesting something then it's okay. See,
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Speaker 2: we created this dynamic where in the name of politics
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Speaker 2: it's okay to use terrorism, and that is now bleeding
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Speaker 2: into this is not I don't believe a political issue.
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Speaker 2: The Brian Thompson murder. There's nothing political about it. Sounds
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Speaker 2: like there's people who were upset because I don't know,
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Speaker 2: maybe they didn't get health insurance, or maybe they had
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Speaker 2: it and they didn't get a claim cover. I don't
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Speaker 2: know the situation. Like I said, each one is unique,
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Speaker 2: each one is special to each individual. But if it
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Speaker 2: becomes open season on human beings because they've done something
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Speaker 2: that you don't like. That's terrorism, and encouraging it is
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Speaker 2: terrorism and people taking to social media. It should fall
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Speaker 2: under the constant within the confines I guess of terrorism
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Speaker 2: and where are the posts? Why aren't they being shut down?
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Speaker 2: You couldn't tell people that they shouldn't get a COVID shot.
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Speaker 2: You shouldn't tell it, couldn't tell people that they shouldn't
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Speaker 2: wear a mask. But you can encourage people to kill
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Speaker 2: other CEOs of healthcare companies or CEOs of companies that
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Speaker 2: you feel have wronged you Somehow, we just don't see
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Speaker 2: things as terrorism anymore, when by definition, that's exactly what
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Speaker 2: and I guess that's the reasoning behind it. Also in
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Speaker 2: the survey, thirty three percent of those surveys said that
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Speaker 2: they can have continued dating someone over the holidays just
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Speaker 2: because they didn't want to be alone for the holidays.
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Speaker 2: So there you go. Is no office holiday party a
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Speaker 2: red flag? Well? Social media has triggered this debate thanks
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Speaker 2: to a TikTok creator named Val basically saying that her
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Speaker 2: theory that a company's decision to cancel her skimp on
24:08
Speaker 2: a holiday party might be a red flag for impending layoffs.
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Speaker 2: She suggests that if your company isn't throwing a party
24:14
Speaker 2: this year, it might be time to polish up your
24:18
Speaker 2: resume and start job hunting. A lot of people who
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Speaker 2: chiming in on it, and some pointing out the fact
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Speaker 2: that they'd actually rather just get a raise than have
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Speaker 2: a holiday party, and that maybe that's the reason for it.
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Speaker 2: So I guess if you don't get a raise, and
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Speaker 2: you don't get a holiday party, and you don't get
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Speaker 2: a Christmas bonus, maybe those should be the red flags,
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Speaker 2: or at least reasons to polish up that resume, just
24:44
Speaker 2: in case. Who's the hardest person on your list to
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Speaker 2: shop for? According to a new survey, it seems the
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Speaker 2: closest they are to us. Closer they are to us,
24:53
Speaker 2: I should say they're the toughest to get gifts for.
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Speaker 2: Twenty one percent of respondents said partners and spouses with
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Speaker 2: a hardest to get gifts for, followed by children and
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Speaker 2: then their mom. According to the survey, we spend about
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Speaker 2: nine hours choosing a gift for the most difficult person
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Speaker 2: on our shopping left list. I'm hard to shop for
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Speaker 2: because I have a tendency to say, Hey I need
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Speaker 2: that and then I buy it, or Hey I want
25:21
Speaker 2: that and then I buy it. And that's a little
25:24
Speaker 2: bit challenging. Jill and I have gotten to the point
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Speaker 2: where there are things this time of year if we
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Speaker 2: want them, and we buy them when they come in arrive,
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Speaker 2: if we're buying them online or when we purchase them,
25:36
Speaker 2: we might just hand them to the other and say,
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Speaker 2: here's something for you to wrap.
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Speaker 1: Up for me.
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Speaker 2: And that's easy. You get the gift you want, they
25:43
Speaker 2: don't have to stress about it, and then at some
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Speaker 2: point they can count them up and say, I got
25:47
Speaker 2: you enough gifts, You're good to go. And I think
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Speaker 2: that's probably that's our compromise, at least that works for us,
25:56
Speaker 2: all right. Tipping. I've talked a great length about tipping,
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Speaker 2: and I've told you one of the reasons that tipping
26:03
Speaker 2: comes up a lot because of on the machines that
26:09
Speaker 2: are run you know, that are given to the businesses
26:12
Speaker 2: by the credit card companies. If you're tipping on those machines,
26:17
Speaker 2: then they're getting a percentage of that tip. They get
26:19
Speaker 2: a percentage of every dollar that you put on there, right,
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Speaker 2: So it makes sense that they would have those things
26:23
Speaker 2: sort of pre built into it.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 2: Restaurant workers pay is outpacing inflation, however, gratuities are actually
26:31
Speaker 2: lagging behind in inflation. So after the pandemic, restaurants had
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Speaker 2: to boost pay to get people to come back to work.
26:40
Speaker 2: Just like most industries, and once they raised their wages,
26:42
Speaker 2: they found it was basically impossible to lower them. So
26:45
Speaker 2: now fifty seven percent of restaurant workers pay comes from tips,
26:49
Speaker 2: as opposed to sixty five percent as of January of
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. So it's interesting that it's gone up overall.
26:57
Speaker 2: Keep in mind January twenty twenty, we weren't in a
26:59
Speaker 2: pandemic yet. Early we didn't know it yet. So the
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Speaker 2: fact that it's dropped that much, which I guess is
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Speaker 2: good on the baseline side, doesn't give you an excuse
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Speaker 2: not to still tip. You know, that's not what we're
27:14
Speaker 2: trying to say here, but we are trying to say,
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Speaker 2: you know, you don't necessarily have to always feel that
27:21
Speaker 2: pressure in those situations where you didn't used to tip,
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Speaker 2: and suddenly it's expected. Because I'm not an advocate for that,
27:29
Speaker 2: I am anti the brand new reasons to tip thing,
27:34
Speaker 2: just creating them out of nowhere. That'll do it for
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