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Cam Jordan talks Hall of Famers from his 2011 Draft, where he ranks among all-time great D-Ends, shedding the nepotism label · NFL Game Previews

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  Speaker 1: In the next five to eight years, there'll be ten,
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  Speaker 1: possibly seven to ten Hall of Famers.
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  Speaker 2: Out of that draft.
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  Speaker 3: Can you give me a couple of names?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: Going to say myself, but hello, Hi. I think Cam
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  Speaker 1: Hayward's on the cusp.
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  Speaker 3: You know there's hello can we did he just gloss
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  Speaker 3: over that. I'm not going to introduce myself. Hello Hill,
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  Speaker 4: He was not ready, not ready? Why was he not ready?
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  Speaker 3: Because he knows you and that was a lot of
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  Speaker 3: full beard. Apro Bowls, three time All Pro. He says
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  Speaker 3: the twenty eleven draft class is somehow the best draft class,
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  Speaker 3: draft class we'll see. He has his own podcast, Off
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  Speaker 3: the Edge with Cam Jordan. Ladies and gentlemen, Cam Jordan,
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  Speaker 3: appreciate what's going on. Welcome to the Welcome to the pot.
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  Speaker 3: Why now, why do you think the two thousand eleven
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  Speaker 3: draft classes?
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's there's there's great draft class. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys can mention all thes we're part of.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't really hold a candle bars, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Is it just because you're saying, did you have like
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  Speaker 3: something to say that first round was stronger? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I mean some would say in the next five this
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  Speaker 1: eight years, there'll be ten, possibly seven to ten Hall
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  Speaker 1: of famers out of that draft.
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  Speaker 3: Can you give me a couple of names? I don't
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  Speaker 3: know this draft class. You would say von Miller, von Miller, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: lock A.
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  Speaker 1: De Green may get there. I'm not going to say
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  Speaker 1: lock may get there. We're going to say Peterson, Julio
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  Speaker 1: might get in there.
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  Speaker 2: Julio, Pat p Julio, you know, JJ Watt.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not going to say myself, but Hello, Hi,
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  Speaker 1: I think Cam Hayward's on the cusp. You know, there's
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  Speaker 1: if you look, if you look at our draft class,
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  Speaker 1: it's just was hard to miss, you know, it was
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  Speaker 1: just unless you said the quarterbacks, because after Cam, then.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it got real slippery.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, can we did he just gloss over that? I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to introduce myself. Hello, Hi, Well I was
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  Speaker 3: a good one.
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  Speaker 4: First of all.
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  Speaker 3: I like that. I love that because I think Cam
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  Speaker 3: has had it outstanding career up to this point. It's
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  Speaker 3: been a real blessing for me to actually saw and
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  Speaker 3: sit here and watch his whole maturity and his growth
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  Speaker 3: and all those other things. What I really have a
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  Speaker 3: question about, because I do think you will be in
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  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. You've got the numbers, yes, and
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  Speaker 3: your numbers one hundred and seventeen and a half sacks
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  Speaker 3: that's outstanding. I didn't I didn't realize until after you
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  Speaker 3: hit one hundred how happy I was for you.
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  Speaker 4: But anyways, what was your first like welcome to the
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  Speaker 4: NFL moment?
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, Because that's weird because your dad played in
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  Speaker 3: the league. Yeah, I know you've been around in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: There were so many of them.
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  Speaker 1: But I think now with you just sitting here, I
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  Speaker 1: know for sure it was probably like it took sixteen
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  Speaker 1: weeks for me to get.
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  Speaker 4: A sack, no doubt. You know. I saw this guy
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  Speaker 4: push Cam. He pushed Cam Newton like he was like Cam,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just going to push.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't push Cam Newton. I smacked Cam Newton like
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  Speaker 2: he was.
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  Speaker 4: Going to fall.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't wrap up. He just hit him and like
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  Speaker 5: but not hit him. That was three hundred pound Camp.
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  Speaker 5: That is fifteen pounds heavier than a what I normally
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  Speaker 5: play at. Now, this is like a grown man, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And I and I sat Cam hit him dead in
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  Speaker 1: the chest and this man like Cam ate it like
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  Speaker 1: lifted a couple of feet, landed, turned, ran, completed the
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  Speaker 1: pass like it.
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  Speaker 3: Was I said, oh telling you, I don't realize we
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  Speaker 3: all looked at.
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  Speaker 4: It like Cam that was it. That was it.
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  Speaker 3: He just my bad guys.
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  Speaker 1: That was my rookie was a very was It was
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  Speaker 1: a series of could have probably ended with like five
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  Speaker 1: or six and ended with one.
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  Speaker 3: Was that your first season ever only having one sack?
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I just had this last season
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  Speaker 1: being destroyed as I was on the leg. I ended
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  Speaker 1: up with two. So like, okay, it was better. There's humbling,
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  Speaker 1: there's humbling moments, and rookie year was one and this
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  Speaker 1: last year was the other.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So do you remember your first and only touchdown?
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  Speaker 3: Do you know that?
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  Speaker 6: That?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Detroit, matt Matt Stafford.
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  Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford, this is the twelve bat and ball by
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  Speaker 3: the Saints.
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  Speaker 4: What and ever by Cam Jordan's was.
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  Speaker 3: Able to see all off? You got the unsports for
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  Speaker 3: like Conda after the touchdown?
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  Speaker 2: That makes sense, That makes sense. I was originally I
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  Speaker 2: was literally just so hyped.
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was about to I was about to like.
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  Speaker 1: Like elevate and like hold it up like it was
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  Speaker 1: a trophy and do a little dance. And then the
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  Speaker 1: teammates grabbed me and I was like, next had a
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  Speaker 1: dunk and I was so I went to I went
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  Speaker 1: for a dunk, had to clear it and then nothing.
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  Speaker 3: What was it to say?
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  Speaker 2: I was going crazy that game.
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  Speaker 1: It was like two or three sacks, It was like
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  Speaker 1: four or five TFLs. It was four or five pass deflections.
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  Speaker 1: It was one of those games where you were just
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  Speaker 1: like there's nothing that I can't do, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: when you enter that element, that zone and you're just.
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  Speaker 3: Like you had to glow last, the last drag, had
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  Speaker 3: to glow. You had to clean when you go into
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  Speaker 3: the sideline, You're like, fade me. Coaches like you're down
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  Speaker 3: this series. You're down this series.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's way too much choice.
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  Speaker 4: So how did you? How did you?
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  Speaker 3: You know, because you talked about getting to that zone
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  Speaker 3: all right early on in your career.
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  Speaker 4: Was not that, but you worked at it, Like the
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  Speaker 4: one thing was it?
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  Speaker 2: Not that? It just wasn't that for sacks?
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  Speaker 3: Right, I know?
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  Speaker 2: No, I was killing the run.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, I've never seen anybody as
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  Speaker 3: greatest shape that you've been in as a defensive lineman. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I know you take a lot of pride in your
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  Speaker 3: your ability to run and play every snap the way
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  Speaker 3: that you do. How what do you think that comes from?
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  Speaker 3: And like, how have you just continued to grow?
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  Speaker 1: It came from you Rome, It came from you and
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  Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins and John Vilma.
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  Speaker 4: It came from all you old that way I asked
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  Speaker 4: that question, but that.
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  Speaker 1: Being said no, no, no no, because rookies would not yet,
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  Speaker 1: rookies would not make it. And the way that I
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  Speaker 1: came into the league, like they like when I entered
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  Speaker 1: the draft, right before before all this draft stuff happened,
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  Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be a top fifteen pick.
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  Speaker 1: I went and visited the Saints and Bill Johnson was
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  Speaker 1: the d line coach at the time, sat me down,
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  Speaker 1: was like, hey, baby, love your game.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really don't know why you're here. You won't
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  Speaker 2: be here.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty four and I said yeah. He's like yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: we're just gonna catch them Bevine's and like literally had
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  Speaker 1: a great time. Sounds like ji and sent me on
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  Speaker 1: my way. I get drafted twenty fourth overall. Bill Johnson,
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  Speaker 1: you know whatever it is. We're sitting there talking, I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 1: He's like, man, I didn't think you come now now
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  Speaker 1: look at you. And all that day I was like, damn.
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  Speaker 1: The Saints really loved me. Like they said it was
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  Speaker 1: gonna come get me. They started, They stopped me from falling.
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  Speaker 1: I entered the building, you know whatever that is after
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  Speaker 1: you signed the contract during camp because there was a
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  Speaker 1: lockout year, so I really didn't see anybody till whatever
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  Speaker 1: that was.
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  Speaker 2: Getting to the building, I'm like, yeah, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: Bill loves me.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, they want me to start,
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  Speaker 1: He's already given me a plan like all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I walk in and I'm like, okay, I know some
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  Speaker 1: of the guys, coach Joe Vitt at the time. You
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  Speaker 1: never met this man a day of my life. Hey, hey,
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  Speaker 1: hey bro, I'm like, you know, and I'm just like
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy, go lucky. I'm I'm drafted, I just signed.
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to get a check, you know, bank bank,
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  Speaker 1: gonna be nice. And then so I walk in, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: my good morning, like just on some typical like just
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  Speaker 1: happy to be here, smiling, ear to ear a little
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  Speaker 1: heavy because all I've been doing is eating the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: And then you know Joe Vihit, Hey, hey, Roamy, jav
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  Speaker 1: who's this guy over here? Who is this guy who's
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  Speaker 1: those third base talking to me like this? And I'm
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  Speaker 1: just like, bro, all I said, it was good morning.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we had who's our decordinated at the time,
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  Speaker 1: Greg Williams, Greg Greg Williams.
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  Speaker 4: Was there, No, No, that might have been Yeah it
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  Speaker 4: was Greg Greg Williams.
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  Speaker 1: So Greg Willams there and he hit He just resounds
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  Speaker 1: the message. Yeah, these rookies they've come in entitled for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of that year. Would be like, you know
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  Speaker 1: this this third base j j V John Filmo, third
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  Speaker 1: base isn't even right for this guy, this guy born
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  Speaker 1: with the with the diamond spoon in his mouth.
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  Speaker 3: For those that don't understand, all right, he's correct, he's correct.
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  Speaker 3: He's very correct. So in our locker room at the time,
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  Speaker 3: none of us had had parents or anybody that had
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  Speaker 3: actually been in the league.
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  Speaker 4: So Cam was the only one.
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  Speaker 2: No, he wasn't Mark was.
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  Speaker 3: It was me, But he was on.
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  Speaker 4: Offense and we didn't we didn't get down with it.
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  Speaker 3: He had a royal time that he had a great
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  Speaker 3: tip over there with the offense, they probably loved him
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  Speaker 3: all the time, not on defense. So Cam comes in
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  Speaker 3: and we made Cam like earn it like it was
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  Speaker 3: like the first But he's a first round pick that
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  Speaker 3: was supposed to be starting. We let him start, but
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  Speaker 3: we didn't like really talk to him, and we said
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  Speaker 3: that he started on second or third base because his
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  Speaker 3: dad played in the league Silver Spoon blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: But I think it made him a lot more mentally tough.
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  Speaker 3: And then when now I see him react with like
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  Speaker 3: young people now and he's like, dude, there's no way
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  Speaker 3: these people could have made it. When I came in,
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  Speaker 3: like Jesse couldn't have did it.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I'm just the guys come in and like they
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  Speaker 1: want to talk to you on the side, like hey, bro,
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  Speaker 1: like you don't have to go that hard, Like first
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  Speaker 1: of all, you're being yeah, you know. Yeah, it was like,
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  Speaker 1: so I need you to pull your britches up and
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  Speaker 1: be a big boy. Yeah, I get it. I get it.
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  Speaker 1: You've been coddled your whole life, you know, Like now
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  Speaker 1: now like younger guys like you have to you have
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  Speaker 1: to worry about the mentals. I love it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I love how the game has changed. Yeah, I hate
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  Speaker 1: it at the same time, like, you know, I love
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  Speaker 1: how you know, we focused on prehab, right, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I love how the evolution of the training facilities has changed.
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  Speaker 1: Coaches are tuning into hey, make sure you're getting your
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  Speaker 1: massages and your treatments and all that. When I first
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  Speaker 1: get twenty eleven, that wasn't happening.
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  Speaker 2: Eleven.
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  Speaker 1: Sean Payton kept our training rehab facility at like fifty
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  Speaker 1: five degrees. It was every freezing cold, no TVs. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't want you to enjoy rehab. And he was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: the longer year out here, the more chance of guys
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  Speaker 1: coming to take your job. And he made it clear,
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  Speaker 1: and you were like, but I'm a first rounder, like
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  Speaker 1: not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Clearly, I got at least three years.
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  Speaker 4: We'll be back in a minute.
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  Speaker 3: So if the twenty eleven draft was done over again,
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  Speaker 3: where do you think you would go?
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully still New Orleans now that being said.
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  Speaker 3: He went last to twenty four though, yeah, yah, I
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  Speaker 3: mean hopefully to get up. Would you be a top ten?
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  Speaker 1: I think that, I mean the top fifteen already. And
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  Speaker 1: when I saw you know, you know, guys like Alden
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  Speaker 1: Smith go to San Francisco, I really wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: to Frisco at the time. I mean I was at
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  Speaker 1: Berkeley all then.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of ball too early he would fastest to forty
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  Speaker 4: five sacks.
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  Speaker 1: Ball they really missed at our class, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: I remember, Yeah, it'd probably been somewhere in there. I
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  Speaker 1: thought I was. I was like praying to God the
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  Speaker 1: Vikings didn't draft me because its noos.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: You know how I feel about the cold.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So I want no smoke with anybody that
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  Speaker 1: has a day to day under seventy degrees. If you
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  Speaker 1: if your winter is under fifty, I have problems with you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a very sweater and shorts and flip flops guy.
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  Speaker 3: Come to New Orleans has totally just messed you up
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  Speaker 3: like that from Arizona. Yeah, my life, California, Chicago, New Orleans.
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  Speaker 3: Guess what I've never.
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  Speaker 2: Had to do? Die on the inside.
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  Speaker 1: Guess what you do with Chicago, Cleveland, the Ohio, the
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  Speaker 1: New York.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you die on the inside every day. You're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's so lovely out here.
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  Speaker 4: It's a Chris thirty three terrible.
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  Speaker 2: It's my oh you.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be calling him when I'm shoveling to drive and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, man, this is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: That's where you get to work out. It you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to work out because you're shoveling the driveway.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, ain't none wrong with it is terrible. Ain't none
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  Speaker 3: wrong with it? So what's been the key to your success? Though?
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  Speaker 3: Playing at a high level for so long? Since twenty eleven,
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  Speaker 3: in that draft class, you played two hundred and nine
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  Speaker 3: games and counting, you still.
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  Speaker 2: Got out of possible What though to eleven, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I've missed.
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  Speaker 3: That's the most of anybody. That's the most oft anybody
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  Speaker 3: in that draft class. You you have it out of
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  Speaker 3: that whole twenty eleven draft class. Draft class, you got
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  Speaker 3: two hundred and nine games and you're still going, I
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  Speaker 3: believe with one hundred and seventeen and a half. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't really understand how half sacks work.
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  Speaker 6: But you share them somehow, like this is a huge
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  Speaker 6: thing with him and Junior Gallett with oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 6: this is a people were trying to dive on quarterbacks
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  Speaker 6: and get up fast first today.
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  Speaker 3: Hey whoever could get up first to the Like it
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  Speaker 3: was all so me and you touched room at the
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  Speaker 3: same time, Like how does how does the sack work?
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  Speaker 3: But who touched them?
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  Speaker 1: For who?
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  Speaker 2: That's how you split it if you if you and.
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  Speaker 3: Me, I'm going I got the tack time, I'm going down,
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  Speaker 3: but they come over and try and just hop it,
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  Speaker 3: just hop on, just just got to get in there.
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  Speaker 2: Half it.
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  Speaker 1: We really was in there, like we both did all
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  Speaker 1: the work. So like, you know, it's really ours. It's
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  Speaker 1: a group truck project. Come on, everybody. Everybody deserves a
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  Speaker 1: little little yeah, a little something. But what's been your
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  Speaker 1: secret though?
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  Speaker 3: For just playing out a high level for so long?
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  Speaker 2: Man blessed, highly favored.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I feel like I feel like my God
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  Speaker 1: would work some mysterious ways. I told all my old heads.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, look, man, I was like, like, poss
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  Speaker 1: play in the league thirteen years, he's six Pro Bowls.
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  Speaker 2: Got to get at least.
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  Speaker 4: One, Yeah, you know, and I came in.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I came into the right group.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, all the coaches sort of hard on
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  Speaker 1: me that first year where they told me, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they told me young guys had to earn third down,
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  Speaker 1: nothing would be given. And it was like, oh, we
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: don't let rookies play third down. And then after that
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: I saw nothing but rookies on third down. It was, yeah,
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: it's a chip that I'm gonna carry for the rest
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: of my life. Should but just the idea where I
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: had to earn that third down, like I was given
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: a chance to start first and second down.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: They wanted me to be a four.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Eye, which is more like a D tackle hybrid, and
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: I want to be a defensive end and prove my
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: point that I was like, yo, me on the edge.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: Is a problem.
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: The thing that I appreciate about Cam and the young
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: group with Lightning d linemen that we had in New
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: Orleans was that every single one of them had like
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: their own very unique celebration. And so I remember, like
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: it was yesterday, I told Cam and like, Cam, like,
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: you're starting to get sacks. Now, you got to do
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: something to kind of separate yourself, Like what's your celebration
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: going to be? I don't think he had actually thought
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: about it. White Lightning had where he would like unscrew
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: a lightning bulb.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: I had never understood what that was.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, he's hite lightning, So maybe is
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: that is that him he's doing?
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: He's doing work, Lightning.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: He said, he's doing work. He's just working.
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: I thought he was, so he was unscrewed down.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Junior Gled had something, Will Smith had something like everybody.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: Cedric Ellis had something like everybody had something, and so
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: this was like big because now I see Cam do
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: the same celebration consistently. Now he's on Madden, you know,
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: leveling up, and so this is like I love it
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: because like I've seen this man and you talked about
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: all the things that is going into and how the
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: hard work and so it's just been really cool to
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: see Cam continue to grow and now be not only
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: like a face in New Orleans, but like a face
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: in the NFL, which is crazy crazy. I like it.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just crazy to think about, you know,
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: like especially as a defensive end, especially as coming out
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: of New Orleans where.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: We're one of the smaller markets.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is for sure, you know, and I think
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of things just sort of story hit our
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: hit our favor. Yeah, you know, we hit a strong
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: playoff stretch where I felt like we were clearly going
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: to win one for like three years straight, and even
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: though we didn't, you know, you got to take advantage
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: of those opportunities. Things had to stop us, like a
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Minnesota miracle, you know, a referee going blind. Maybe he
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: was looking at the solar eclipse the other day, you know,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: he was like there was there was there was clear cut,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: you know, reasons why we didn't go and just you know,
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: but because of that, we also hit a hot stride.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: And when you hit a hot streak, you got to
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: you gotta enjoy the ride.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, do you have a number in mind as far
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: as like sacks are concerned, where you'll be like, all right,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: this is the number.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, seventeen and a half ago.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: So you wanted to get a hunt.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: This is land yep, Like in my life, this is
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: all land yup in my mind. When I first got
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: to the league, I wanted I was like, yo, if
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I can get fifty sacks, I was like, fifty sacks,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: that's a hell of a career. I was like, you know,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: there's guys in this league that never get more than ten.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta get more than ten, all right, because.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Then you're like as the first round, you're you're a
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: bus You're.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, you gotta hit twenty. Yeah, like you
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: there's like there's somewhere in to stay off that list. Yeah,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: of like top ten bus.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: No, No.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: I like thirty five to fifty was my range of
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Like I was like, hey, like solid career.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta I was like, I gotta
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: get a Pro Bowl, like I.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Can't be a failure kid, like you know, in my mind,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: it was like, you know, in my mind, it was
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: a failure not to hit a Pro Bowl. Not like
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: didn't look at any other metrics of like, oh you
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: could have a seven, eight to ten whatever, five year career,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: A year in the league is still successful, you know,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: like you start in the NFL. Absolutely, But in my mind,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm so, I was so jaded. I was like,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: gotta get a Pro Bowl, possi plate for thirteen, Gotta
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: make ten years, gotta gotta lead, like you know, my
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I wasn't looking on the outside of like racing against
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: anybody except the Jordan last name right, I'm like, like,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: what I don't want to be is you know just that? No,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: that's the That's Steve's kid. I said, I want to
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: grow out of that. That whatever Steve's kid is, Like,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be that. And that was my metrics.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I was like fifty sacks. So once I hit fifty sacks,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I gotta I gotta change
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: my dream up. It's about me now. I was like, okay,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I hit one hundred sacks. You can't tell me I'm
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: not top thirty defensive end. Ever, there's thirty two team
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: in the league. If you pick a franchise, I'm still
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: up there.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: So I was like, one hundred sacks, that's the new goal,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and I worked my ass off to get it. Now,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: one hundred sacks, I said, okay, I got to reshape
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the dream.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: So where are you at now?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't shoot high enough.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: I was like, like, where are you at now?
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, I was like one fifteen. I was like,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, one fifteen and a half
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: is the Saints record. I gotta go win sixteen. So
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: here I'm at one seventeen and a half. I'm like, okay,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: what's the next what's the next number? What's the level up?
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Are we ready to announce it right now? You said
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: that I want to go two more years.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I'm gunning for one thirty this year?
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah I like that.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah all right.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Now now I'm just on a year by year. So
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: now I'm gunning for one thirty. I don't hit one thirty.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Literally, I'm going to watch every Saints game just because
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: of you. Now, I appreciate that just because of you.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Because I'm gonna be at the crib and I'm gonna
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: be calling Rome on face up, like yo, he got
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: another one. He got another one, and I'm gonna send
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: it to you every game this year because of you.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be me called Grandison, Chase Young, Brian Berzi.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I love I love the odds.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I like it though, man, I like the challenge. That's
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: that's what's up. I want to see these The kid's
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: gonna be a good player.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: What my guy, My guy, Brian Ziz is nice.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: He's a good player. Yeah, I agree Grandison as well.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: We're gonna take a short break and we'll be back
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: in a minute. So we started our podcast. Well yeah,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: we started this podcast as I brought Rome over because
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I sucked doing it by myself and I felt like
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I needed the Batman Robin Combos so we could do
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: this thing together. We could tag team. Our message really
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: is about players in their second acts. Clearly you are
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: far from that because you're still playing and you have
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: your own podcast. Now, what made you want to start
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: that podcast while you were still playing?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Oh man, me and uh Me and my guy mark.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Ingram had a same best friend.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my dog. Just you know, just was in
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Liberia with him. That's that's my that's my dog. Kids
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: about the same age, you know. I think he got
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: married relatively around the same time.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Like, life is just great.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: What's the name of your podcast?
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Off Off the Edge with Cam Jordan and what you
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: just said. It's different doing it alone, Like it's it's
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: so much easier with the friend.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: You know, you got you The vibes are always top
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: tier when you're doing it with yourself. Just lost.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but okay, okay, that's.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: What this is what I signed up for.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Bring the juice.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: He's like, Hey, we're gonna talk about how he just
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: blew this bag against Spring Bay somehow, but I'm gonna.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Bring the Jews today.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know how he lost to this team because
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: they were abysmal and we were the reason that we
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the gain confidence and all of a sudden became a
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: playoff contender.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I assume it was our game. When you blew, you know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: you blow a seventeen lead.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw you talk to Jordan Love about that, man.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll grind my gears for the rest of my life,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you know, hopefully not hopefully we win one this year
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and all I talk about is Lo.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that you have the Saints want the
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl twenty twenty four.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I'm not even going to hate,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: but I kind of want to hate because the longest
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: New Orleans goes without winning another championship, they just make
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: my year that much better. So, not trying to be
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: a hater, but it's kind of the thought process of
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: a Highlander, you know, where they can only only be one,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: only only one. It's kind of cool. So but not
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: hating on you, Camp, I mean I would just this situation. Yeah,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: he hated. Dude, young players ever come to you now
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: and try and pick your brain about how you got
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: to where you at some of your technique, things like
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: how do you take that now? Because you truly are,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: you're the captain, You got all the years on it
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: that you can have filled up.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's that guy. Now you a jet at man.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: So but I've seen this whole transition and now you're
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: coming full circle. So how do you treat that and
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: how does that go about? And how often does it happen?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Probably since what year two and fourteen when you guys
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: left when'd you leave two thousand from the Saints twenty What.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: When I left?
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty fourteen, thirteen fourteen, yes, so thirteen is my
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: last time.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: That was That was the huge culture shift, right, twenty thirteen?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Roman Harper leaves, So that was fourteen. Yes, So after
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen, Malcolm Jenkins leaves, Roman Harper leaves, Jonathan Vilma leaves,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Will Smith leaves. I look around and I go from
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: year three four from being just like all right, I'm
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: figuring my shit out to everybody looking at me like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: all right, how do we figure our shit out?
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm like so that was a huge culture shift.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: But since then, so since year four ish.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Guys been come my way, hey man, like, how do
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you how do you take care of your body?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Bro?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't take care of my body just yet? Bro,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Like this actually worn's perfectly fine.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: How much do cold tub? I don't cold tub?
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Is that weird for you though? For God to ask that?
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, because you're twenty five and you know
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: everybody looking at you like, all right, well how do
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: we do this?
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Is this?
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: You got a massage?
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Guy?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I don't really I don't need all that yet, you know,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: like and you're you're sitting there, got to figure my
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: stuff out, but it made you rapidly figure shit out
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: right to where you're like, all right, well this is
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: what this is my plan and this is what's worked
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: for me, and this is how I can help you.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: And you know, you had young guys at the time
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: like John Jenkins and a Keen Hicks you're behind me,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: which was great and coral and everything, and you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: just that sort of culture shift. So I've been leading these,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you know, my D line for ten years now. So
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: at this point it's routine. Guys come in and I
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: want to push them to their highest levels. Yeah, I'm like,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm on them, like you know, like I'm
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: gonna coach myself. I'm like, you know, I don't like
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: your hand placement, and I tell them though, I'm like, oh.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: If you don't like my hand placement, tell me. At
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: worst comes worse.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: If you say nothing, it makes me worse and makes
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: us worse as as a unit because we're a D
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: line unit, you know, And so it's sort of easy.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: It's now it's different when now you know you got
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: just young guys in general, linebackers wide receivers.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Whatever. It's like, all right, well what do you do?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: All right, well let's talk about it.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: And it's it's sort of like I said, but it's
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: an easy it's an easy progression because it became a
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: natural progression.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: You were forced into it, forced into snicker swim.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Hey what, I didn't choose this life. This life chose me,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: you know, I said, Okay, let's respond.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Thrown right in the fire. My my, My next question
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: for you is, with all your success and where you've
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: been and how you've transformed your your your game, who
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: would you on your mount rushmore of just sataness.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: NFL period, but period period period life.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, it could be, it could be live, it could
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: be for football. Yeah, I mean, I mean, make it
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: whatever you want.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's probably gonna be Steve Jordan right there, right,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: because like if without him, there's no me. Yeah, and
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: even even like even if without saying that, like that
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: was always my like north Star, right, that was like
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: my like chasing the dream was Steve Jordan. And then
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: right beside him, I probably put in Russell Peace, rest
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: in peace. Chris Dolman.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, grew up born born in Minnesota.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Grew up watching this defensive monster of a front Chris Dolman,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: John Randall, Keith Millard.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: At one season between this D line they had like
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: fifty five to sixty sacks between just the D lineman.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: It was and it was like it was like Keith
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Millard had nineteen, John Randall had like thirteen fourteen. It
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: was Chris Chris Dolman with another twelve. The other the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: other defensive end had like another eight to nine. Rotators
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: had another like five or six. And you're just sitting there,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: You're like, as a kid, you look back at it,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: You're like, this was bananas. But as I grew up
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: in you know, high school, whatever, it was those reconnections
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: with Chris Doman, those those chats, those textas as texts
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: as I got older, even into the league. My guy,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: So rest in peace, Chris Doman up there. Then you
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: you know, you you probably you probably say you know
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: my wife is up there, right, Nicki, Jordan is up
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: on Mount Rushmore because she has to deal with my
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: like the same competitive person you see practice I bring
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: home and she matches intensity you've seen, NICKI, Yeah, my
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: wife is the most competitive person I know, which I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: only assume is going to make all four of my
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: kids monsters, and it's not gonna be me. It's gonna
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: be her propelling them. Like she's she's uh McDonald's all
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: American out of a school out here in La Marble, Marlboro,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: all women's basketball, Yeah, basketball, all American playing basketball, goes
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: to rough, ends up whatever that that career was, but
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: she ends up playing ball out in Finland, m Javascola, Finland,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: like just the need to continue competing, Like why you
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: out here?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I went to go visit her. It was Neglave thirty.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I said, I can't stay long actually actually actually goodbye.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: But then so she's up there and my son is
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: like he tells me, like like it's his day job
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: to tell me.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: He be like, well, Poppy played football, Daddy played football.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I'm gona play football.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, actually, it's okay to be a lawyer, bro,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Like it's okay to be a doctor. Probably we're gunning
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: for this basketball money. Like but anyways, so that's my
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: three and then my fourth. I'm probably gonna just insert
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: myself then, like I feel like I have to be
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: up there.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: If it's a if rushmore, I have to be up there.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: That is a first. That is I was like, as
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: he said it speaking, I'm like, I don't think I've
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: ever seen or heard someone put themselves up there on
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: the Mount rushmore so, I like it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Now you look in the mirror. I like what I say.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: We're doing all right.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I love that nobody's done that, and I love that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Yes, Cam, you always continue to surprise me. I always
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: continue to surprise me.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna leave it at that.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: We're gonna leave it at that. Thank y'all for listening.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Give us a like, share, follow, subscribe, give us a
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: five star rating. Follow us on Apple podcast. iHeartRadio app.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: I'm Peanut, That's Rome, that's Cam. He puts himself on
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: his own Mount Rush, and you also now understand why
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: he started out on second Back. Thank y'all for tuning
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: in to The NFL Player's Second Acts podcast. Yeah