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God, a coping mechanism? · Outcast

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  All right, welcome back. It's been not too long, like a
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  week. Yeah.
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  So last time we ended up with Do you use God as a coping
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  mechanism? Yep.
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  Or do you actually see God as like our Lord and Savior?
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  Pretty much. That's tough.
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  But before we get started, we always pray.
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  Amen. And.
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  You want to lead it. Yeah, sure, I'll lead it.
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  I'll lead it. Thank you, Father, for allowing
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  us to be here, guide us and lead us always into the absolute
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  truth, because You are the one true, living God, and there's no
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  one who is greater than You. Your ways.
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  We'll always be superior to our ways, O Lord, for You know all
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  things and we know nothing. At the end of the day, You are
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  the one true, living God, and there's no one who is greater
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  than You. Amen.
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  Amen. All right, we have someone here
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  on the podcast. Yeah, it's.
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  AI think you had mentioned it. We're gonna have two special
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  guests coming in and out. Yeah, yeah.
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  But you know what? Why don't you introduce yourself
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  and so you know? Well, how do I Do I introduce
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  myself as George or? Whatever.
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  George Janko, George Washington, you whatever you want.
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  I'm. Gonna say George because I was
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  referred to as George in the last podcast.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. My name is George.
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  Grateful to be here. Glory to God.
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  To be honest. Yeah, God, it really is.
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  Yeah. So just to give out a little
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  insight, like George, you recently got baptized, right?
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  I did, I did. It was, it was life changing for
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  sure. It was something that I felt
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  like God had been wanting me to do for a while.
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  But I've been a stubborn, A stubborn man for a long time,
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  very long time that. Happens to everybody.
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  Though, Yeah, No, that happens. You know, that happened a lot to
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  me, you know, growing up as a kid because we all pretty much
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  went to the same church. Yeah.
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  And I'm not going to lie, I mean, I know the topic today is
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  do we use God as a coping mechanism?
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  I I can, I would have to use like a like, I don't know how
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  many hands to count the amount of times I would be heartbroken,
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  go to God and then leave, get heartbroken again, go to God and
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  then leave until one day I was like, I'm done.
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  Yeah, man, can't do this. No.
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  More. Yeah, it's almost, you were
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  talking about this yesterday. I think it was a little bit
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  challenging for the the one of the guys that were there.
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  Yeah, I think everybody does that though, right?
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  They almost do it subconsciously.
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  Yeah. We, we, we, it could be any, it
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  could be literally anything. For you, it was heartbreak.
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  For others, it could be alcohol, whatever, right.
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  Or addiction to it could be pornography, drugs, all of the
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  above. Yeah.
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  And when we say, oh, I need God, I need God.
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  We come to him and then we start like using him to cope with our
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  our things, right? You know what I mean, Right,
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  right. Rather than recognizing no, I'm
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  nothing. Yeah, I I'm nothing.
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  Absolutely. You.
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  You're king. Yeah, no, absolutely no.
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  And another thing too, like in the in the book of Revelations,
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  when he speaks about the churches, there's that church
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  that has the God calls out for having systems within the
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  church. He's like, Oh, you guys think
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  you're wise and all this, but truth be told, you are poor,
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  pretty blind, you know, and when you use God as a coping
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  mechanism, so you think you are being wise to coming to him with
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  tears. And then next thing you know,
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  you completely run away from God after God.
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  Like, you know, like you feel that, I guess warmth from God,
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  and then you run away, 'cause you're like, OK, I'm all better
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  now. Like a bandage.
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  Like a bandage, Yeah. But you know what though?
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  That's that's the culture's fault.
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  Yeah, I agree. American Culture.
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  I mean, I don't know about George.
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  I'm sure he has his own right experiences, right?
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  Yeah. But it's like we come with the
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  same backpack. I mean, you come to God.
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  God, you keep praying about the same thing as if he hasn't heard
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  you right. Right.
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  Yeah, exactly. It's like almost like, yo,
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  where's your faith at? Where's your faith?
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  You know, help me with this. You come with that again next
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  week. You come again with that the
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  next right when he said come and bring all your burdens upon me
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  once in this. Once, yeah, which requires
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  faith, absolutely requires faith.
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  And another, another thing too, is for believers, do not confuse
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  being lazy with faith, with having faith on God and waiting
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  on him. Because a lot of times when we
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  come to him with our backpacks, you know, God does expect us.
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  Like, OK, you were, he was patient with you.
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  So now God is like, OK, I want you to be patient with me.
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  So you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I remember when you told
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  me that when I was in my early walks with God.
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  And I'm not going to lie, that was so uncomfortable to hear.
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  The what? The what?
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  Because you're like, all right, bro, this whole time, bro, God
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  has been patient with you. So now you got to be patient
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  with God. Well, yeah, because think about
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  it. He's waiting for you to come
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  this whole time. Super patient.
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  Yeah, beyond patient, right. Then you come and you're here
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  like the little kid with the list.
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  He's like, what? Yeah.
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  No, no, you're going to wait on me now, if in fact you come to
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  me because you think I, you know I am.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or is it because you need me to?
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  You need me for a certain. Thing for your checklist, yeah.
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  Because it's convenient to you might.
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  As well go to Santa Claus at that point.
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  That's how we treat him, though. That's true.
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  We do treat him like that. We.
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  Treat him like that. Yeah.
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  We come to him when we. It's a convenient.
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  Yeah. And he's so generous to actually
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  do that, even on top of that. That's what I'm saying.
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  Only to teach you a lesson afterwards.
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  Yeah, it's almost like, man, dude, I can't even tell you the
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  amount of times I've done that hour and and God, you know,
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  God's so generous. He like, you know, he's there
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  for me. And then I'd be like, thanks,
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  God, back to like, you know, getting hurt again.
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  Yeah, but those are with little things in life, right?
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  Then life gets complex. Absolutely.
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  Work career, yeah, whatever it may be.
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  On top of that, the nation is unpredictable.
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  The economy is, you know, having inflation, right?
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  That's just the country and then the whole world.
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  And then everybody's just like, well, all the believers.
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  I'm talking about the believers, right, right.
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  Like, what's going on? And some of them are freaking
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  out. And what do we do?
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  Like, is this actually going to happen?
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  Yeah. Especially with the Iran and the
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  Israel war. Yeah.
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  It puts people on edge. Absolutely.
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  Especially from they're from 1 extreme or from the other
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  extreme, Right. Right.
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  They're like, you know, you're just like, what's going on.
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  Yeah. But for some believers, they're
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  like, this is this is happening. But so in the Bible, like Jesus
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  says, like you will hear rumors of war.
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  Yeah, correct. But be like Jesus says not to
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  worry, right? Right.
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  I was meditating on that. You say not to worry because if
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  you have faith, whatever happens, happens, which I know
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  that's that's the whole like, that's for sure.
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  But then it was there like, is there another layer to that
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  where like if there when it does happen, there will be no rumors?
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  Like it will happen out of nowhere.
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  Yeah. So like, these rumors are just
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  not to worry about these rumors because they're fake, he says.
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  You. Yeah, exactly.
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  You will hear rumors of work, but still it is not the end,
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  Right, Right. It's just rumors.
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  But this is about the the earth having contraction.
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  Yeah. The, you know, birthing pains.
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  Yeah, Yeah, right, if you will. Right, Right.
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  So rumors can be something like a birthing pains, but it's not
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  necessarily yet the end. Well.
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  Because there's, there's probably been, I mean, there's
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  been two world wars already. I'm sure, I'm sure believers at
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  that point, they were probably conflicted and thought it was
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  the end. Oh, yeah, exactly.
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  Like, for example, the the Second World War, right?
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  Yeah. For the people living in that
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  time, they're like, this is yeah, this.
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  Is it? Yeah.
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  War. We're done mass destruction,
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  right? Yep, but I personally think that
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  we will witness maybe witness World War 3 or maybe our our
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  children will. Right, but that doesn't mean
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  that. It's but it doesn't necessarily
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  mean yeah, that that is the war that will end all wars.
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  No, because the one that scripture talks about, that
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  seems to be something completely at a much greater scale.
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  Unimaginable, right, Right. That the word of Armageddon,
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  that's something that's just huge scale where where the
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  physical and the spiritual realm meet.
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  Yeah, that's something just much bigger.
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  But definitely that the war that's kind of about to happen,
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  sort of maybe not, we don't know.
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  But for now it seems like it has has cooled down Right, right,
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  right, right. Absolutely.
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  I mean. Dude, just what?
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  Like, was it 2020 or 2019? Going into 2020, there was a
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  scare, Yeah, because everybody was convinced Korea was gonna.
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  Oh yeah. North Korea.
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  Yeah, we were. Going to World War Three, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, I remember that.
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  But China, yeah, China did tell the guy from North Korea.
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  Chill out, calm yourself down. Relax.
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  Oh, it's funny. Yeah.
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  Now, there's been a lot of rumours of war lately.
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  A lot of them. So, yeah, despite our personal
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  things going nationally and then all around the world, I, I make,
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  I get it. Believers can be a little
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  confused, feel a little bit of anxiety, whatever you want to
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  call it, will be worried. And on top of that, they're
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  coming to God for things of their convenience, right?
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  And they feel like maybe all this stuff might get in the way
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  of their conveniences, right? When in fact, God just wants one
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  thing from us. I am your savior.
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  That's it. Yeah, you were mentioning
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  something yesterday that if you read, read carefully.
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  I know that it's too extensive, but Christ says, Oh yeah, you
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  cannot come to me, right? Listen to.
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  This let me let me pull it up for you right now, dude.
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  I actually have it right in front of me and he says it's
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  twice by the way, so you know, I'm not tripping.
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  OK, so John 6 verse 65, and I don't know if I should give a
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  little summary of what's going on here.
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  Just read that little section then you can OK.
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  So this is what Christ said. This is what Christ said, This
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  is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is
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  granted to Him by the Father. You see, you see that right
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  there, that that's interesting because in other ones, he said,
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  don't. No one can come to the Father if
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  it's not. Through me.
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  And here he's saying no one can come to me.
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  Unless it's granted. Granted to him, whoever that is,
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  that person, he or she, by the Father, for you then to come to
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  him. Exactly.
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  That's crazy. Super crazy.
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  When you read that yesterday, I was like, wait, hold on.
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  We read things very quickly and try to put patterns to other
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  stuff that we've read before. This is completely different
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  versus yeah, the other one was like, no, it comes to the father
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  if it's not through me, right? This one is different.
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  Very different. Yeah, because he's.
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  Teaching them. You guys only came to me because
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  you feed. Because I'm feeding you.
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  Yeah. You.
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  You don't even care about the signs that that I've given you,
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  right? You didn't care about that.
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  You're asking me to show you proof that I'm the Messiah,
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  right? Because you want to see Mana.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  I'm telling you that I am that bread.
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  Right. And then he then tells him.
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  I keep telling you no. No one can come to me if it, if
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  it's not granted to him by the Father, by the Father you then
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  to come to Him. Exactly.
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  Exactly. You see that?
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  Oh yeah, dude, absolutely. And.
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  I know George is like right now. No, no, no, dude, dude.
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  I'm buffering, right? Now why no it's.
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  It's deep. It's.
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  Crazy very deep because you you want to let your mind wander,
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  but you want to keep it to what it says.
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  That's I don't want to like. Yeah, literally.
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  He's saying you cannot come to me if in it, if it is not to
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  like let's say let's say Jesus. I'm not Jesus, right?
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  But let's say I'm Jesus. You can't come to me unless
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  stuff my father grants you to come to me.
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  Yeah, that's. Crazy bro, that's so crazy
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  'cause look, there is a part, the only one that OK, this is oh
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  man, this is deep, but there is a part where Christ asked the
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  disciples, who am I? And then and then Peter
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  responds, oh, you're Christ the the Son of the living God.
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  And then and then Peter. And then Christ responds to
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  Peter. He says, blessed are you,
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  because it was not flesh and blood that revealed it to you,
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  but it was my Father who is in heaven who revealed it to you.
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  Yeah, so Peter again, remember, they were all Jews, so they all
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  had a common faith, right? They weren't like they didn't
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  believe in God. They knew who God was, right?
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  The problem here is that he was coming now as the Messiah.
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  Who's declaring that to them based on what they read on the
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  Torah, based on what they read with the prophets.
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  He's making this claim now. In non modern time, pretty much
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  everybody knows, has heard the Gospel, right?
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  They know about the Jews, they know about, right?
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  Yeah. The Christianity, whether if
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  it's Orthodox, Catholic, whatever, they all know to a
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  certain extent who God is, right?
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  Like, you know, George, your friend, your friends may believe
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  in God to a certain yeah, yeah, God, yeah, or your friends,
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  whatever, because they've heard it social media, right,
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  whatever, right. So what does this mean to them?
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  I mean, they've heard of Christ for Peter at that time and them
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  they were like, show us, we'll believe you.
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  We don't even believe in him. No, no, it's true.
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  But in this case, we don't have Christ here with us present.
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  He's not here with us, right? That's what he tells Thomas.
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  Blessed is the one who believes and does not.
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  Does not see exactly now dude and and a lot of people like
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  Christianity Today. We know that Christ is Christ.
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  He's the Messiah. We know Lord, right?
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  We call him Lord, right. But you know, it's funny because
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  the people that were looking for him that that Christ called out
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  and said, you guys are only here because I'm going to feed you.
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  They they don't call him Lord. They said, Rabbi, when did you
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  get here? That's what they call it Christ.
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  They don't, Rabbi. They recognize them as a as a
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  teacher. As a teacher, that much?
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  Yeah, Yeah. But the others would call him
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  Lord, Yes. So.
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  But now everybody's saying, Lord, but there will be a time
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  where a Christ would be like, you know, you know, get away
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  from me. I never knew you.
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  You know, those are going to be the people that will use Christ
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  at, you know, with their tongue. They will, they will say, you
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  know, like Lord, Lord, you know. We know you.
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  Yeah, like we knew you. Like we know you.
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  Like, so it's like saying, yeah, you've called me by my name.
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  My name, right? You've never made me Lord your
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  life. Exactly.
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  Exactly. So it seems like, and I'm saying
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  this boldly, believers, right? Someone who doesn't believe in
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  God, this means nothing to them, right?
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  It's not yet right, right for a believer when we come to God,
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  and I include myself in this because of spirit in the past,
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  absolutely when we would come to God for for a convenient to cope
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  with something, we would we do it just to call upon his name or
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  did we? Did we come to Him because we
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  knew He is the Lord of our life? Exactly.
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  Now going back to the same story of John 6, when Christ taught
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  about the, you know, the, the, the, the flesh and the blood and
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  the bread and the wine, he was, you know, he was telling them
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  about that. But then the people were like,
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  what is this guy saying? He's like, we're going to eat
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  his flesh and blood and remember what the Old Testament law says.
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  Yeah, in Leviticus. You know, you cannot touch the
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  dead, you know what I mean? But like, they got up and they
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  left. And then Christ looked at his
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  disciples. He said the 12, the 12.
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  Yeah, he's, he's, he's like, you guys can leave too.
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  You guys not want to leave too. But then Peter recognized or he
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  already knew. He's like.
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  But Lord, you have words of eternal life.
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  Where shall we go? Where shall we go if?
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  You have words of eternal life, right?
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  So that story has like a perfect description of when somebody
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  makes Christ. The Lord of their life.
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  Of their life and then someone that just sees him as a rabbi a.
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  Teacher. That's a teacher.
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  That's insane. Yeah, yeah, dude, that's a
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  perfect story for that, Yeah. I know, I know this is is tough.
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  And again, the, the, the conversation that we had last
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  night at the Bible study was it was very quiet and I can feel a
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  little bit of tension because you could call it whatever you
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  want, coping mechanism or a way to deal with things, whatever.
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  Right, right. If, if, if in fact you come to
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  God because you need him to do something versus realizing the
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  truth of what's happening, right.
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  Remember that conversation I was having with you, George, where
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  like it was an advice where like it was in the group channels,
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  like, hey, let's not, you know, let's not serve guy with a like
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  as a Copa mechanism or play hide and seek with him.
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  When we played hide and seek with him, that's what's
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  happening. Yeah.
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  We hide and then we seek. We seek him.
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  We hide and then we seek him. Yeah.
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  We hide because, well, he met my needs.
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  I come and seek him back again. I hide because I, you know, he
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  he did what he had to do. I hide again, then come back
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  again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  How many times of that do we have to be doing that right?
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  Or do we come to him feeling so shameful and his glory, just his
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  brightness or radiance just strips us off and exposed and
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  that's just like so uncomfortable.
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  But that right there, if in fact you can, you can cross that
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  boundary of despair, if you will.
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  Right, right. That means you know that he is
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  your Lord. Right, absolutely.
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  And you know, we come to God because we know that He has
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  wisdom. We know He has wisdom.
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  Now this is what James says to the one that plays hide and
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  seek, to the one that likes to play hide and seek, he says
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  this. Now if any of you lacks wisdom,
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  he should ask God, who gives all generously and ungrudgedly, and
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  it will be given to him. But let him ask in faith without
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  doubting, for the doubter is like the surgency driven and
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  tossed by the wind. That person should not expect to
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  receive anything from the Lord, being double minded and unstable
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  in all his ways. So that's what happens when you
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  start playing hide and seek with God.
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  Yeah, it becomes double minded. So what happens?
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  You go hide, seek, hide and seek.
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  Unstable, unstable, double minded and.
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  You doubt it. You doubt?
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  Yeah, you doubt? It has to be a sense of
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  doubting, right? Because if in fact you come to
• 19:11
  God and you know, you're being destroyed, right?
• 19:14
  And you're like God, you, you are my fortress, right?
• 19:16
  I don't care. Absolutely.
• 19:18
  Once that problem or storm or whatever you call it, you go
• 19:21
  through, yeah, that would be the true.
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  Test. Amen.
• 19:25
  Do you keep going? Yeah, full force with God.
• 19:27
  Or it's like, well, I guess, well, cruise control, we're good
• 19:31
  now. Yeah, absolutely.
• 19:33
  From my. The way I feel, the way I played
• 19:38
  hide and seek and I pray I never fall back into it again.
• 19:43
  But see, it happens to everybody though.
• 19:44
  Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think in my case, the way I
• 19:47
  took it more, it was like you, like you say as a coping
• 19:49
  mechanism, I would take God. It was like whenever there's
• 19:55
  people who, when they want things going for them, like when
• 19:59
  things are going good for them and they still look for God,
• 20:02
  Like that's what like true faith.
• 20:03
  You know, my case was always like I would only come to God
• 20:07
  whenever it was, you know, in utter despair.
• 20:09
  It was all based off emotion. You know, when I was looking at
• 20:12
  my deepest darkest air at like times.
• 20:15
  So I would come to God and it wasn't like I would and I would
• 20:17
  pray, but it wasn't like, I can't say, 'cause I know now
• 20:21
  what fate like not I'm learning what faith really is.
• 20:24
  Is it was but that what that was it was hope.
• 20:27
  I would pray to God hoping, because what's the difference is
• 20:30
  that the hope was the hope was like, OK, if something, if, if
• 20:33
  God makes it better, glory to God, he made it better.
• 20:37
  Exactly but. Did I did I really believe?
• 20:40
  OK, no, God has me. I'm going to get through this.
• 20:44
  Like whatever I get through is is because, and I said, and I'm
• 20:47
  going to serve him because whatever is that I'm going to
• 20:50
  get through, I'm never going to go through it again.
• 20:52
  Instead of no, I hope God will Get Me Out of this.
• 20:53
  And he would because his grace is abundant, ridiculously
• 20:56
  abundant. So I would get out of it.
• 20:59
  But what I'd still keep living my life.
• 21:01
  Exactly. And I wouldn't be like it would
• 21:03
  just be it was like a false like I'd be like, oh, like like
• 21:06
  anytime someone would ask me how you're doing, you know, right.
• 21:10
  Oh, I'm great, I'm good. You know, you say I'm blessed,
• 21:13
  but I'm saying that like, do I really feel that way?
• 21:17
  Like, do I really have that gratitude of that I'm blessed?
• 21:20
  Right, right. No, I didn't, you know, because
• 21:22
  I wasn't serving God exactly. I was serving myself, and then I
• 21:25
  wanted whenever I was. When?
• 21:27
  I was down. Bad.
• 21:27
  I wanted him to serve me. Yeah, exactly, because you then
• 21:31
  you you then texted back saying so the bottom line is we serve
• 21:36
  him. He doesn't serve us right.
• 21:38
  And I was, and I believe I respond was like exactly.
• 21:41
  He already did it once at the cross.
• 21:43
  Mm Hmm. In service, yeah.
• 21:45
  Yeah. To all of humanity, right,
• 21:47
  Right. And yet we he, we come here and
• 21:50
  we demand. More service.
• 21:53
  It's like, it's like what Paul says he's like, should we
• 21:56
  continue on sinning? Like should grace?
• 21:58
  Be more. Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
• 22:00
  That's continued. Yeah, exactly.
• 22:01
  Yeah, dude, it's like Christ already did it for us, man.
• 22:04
  No. The blessings in our purpose.
• 22:05
  Yeah, and I get it. I I like what one of the the
• 22:09
  sisters said yesterday. She says that there's so much
• 22:13
  more distraction, so it's so easy to get distracted.
• 22:16
  Oh yeah. So much easier, right?
• 22:18
  You know, laptop computer, Netflix, it's so easy.
• 22:22
  You can do bowling, you can do so many things now.
• 22:26
  So it's so easy to get caught up, right?
• 22:28
  And then only when something doesn't work, right back to God.
• 22:32
  Yeah, back and. Forth, back and forth back.
• 22:34
  And forth. You know what I mean.
• 22:36
  And interestingly, when you said when Chris says no one can come
• 22:40
  to me unless he is granted by him, by my father for him to
• 22:43
  come to me, that really makes sense.
• 22:47
  When in Scripture says that God listens to the broken hearted
• 22:52
  because the one who's truly broken hearted is not coming
• 22:55
  because he needs to cope with things, broken hearted because
• 22:58
  he's done. Right, he's just.
• 23:01
  Recognized and fully understands.
• 23:04
  Done. I'm done, yeah.
• 23:05
  And that's when he draw nears. Yeah, that's when I I really
• 23:10
  first encountered for the first time, like what it truly was to
• 23:13
  be like, all right, yeah, God is here with me.
• 23:16
  Like I thought I was all the times I had come to God.
• 23:22
  I thought that was a broken heart.
• 23:24
  No, it was just sadness. It was just sadness.
• 23:27
  It wasn't until I experienced a real broken heart.
• 23:30
  Like what it is to truly just be to the point where you, you look
• 23:33
  at yourself and you're like, what are you?
• 23:35
  Like what are you? You know, it's almost like you
• 23:37
  come face to face with yourself. Yeah.
• 23:39
  Yeah. Before.
• 23:40
  Before the presence of God. Yeah.
• 23:41
  And. Then yeah, exactly.
• 23:43
  And then you know what my conclusion was nothing, nothing.
• 23:47
  I am nothing, dude. And in that pursuit of trying to
• 23:49
  be or think you, I am. But like thinking I was
• 23:52
  something I was breaking my heart, actually just destroying
• 23:55
  myself like like once, once I realized like, dude, I am
• 23:58
  nothing like God is everything. Peace just was like, all right,
• 24:04
  you understand now? Yeah.
• 24:06
  And then since then it's just been like, okay.
• 24:08
  Yeah. You gotta let me to understand
• 24:10
  you and it hasn't been easy because especially from this the
• 24:17
  I mean, obviously I don't know, but I can't speak for everybody,
• 24:19
  but I know the stubbornness of my flesh is.
• 24:22
  I think everybody at a certain at everybody is stubborn at a
• 24:26
  like a certain level where stubbornness, right, Right.
• 24:29
  I could be stubborn in certain areas.
• 24:31
  I'm sure you can, Joe be stubborn.
• 24:33
  Yeah. Like a little kid, yeah.
• 24:35
  Yeah, and then open minded with other things.
• 24:36
  Right, but there's some people who are just hardcore stubborn,
• 24:40
  right? Like stiff neck, like how God
• 24:42
  called the people of Israel. And now, you know, back to to
• 24:45
  that conversation. Now I wonder why he dealt with
• 24:49
  this. People.
• 24:50
  Stiff neck, people. Right, right.
• 24:51
  Yeah, there's there's a lot of good questions on that too.
• 24:54
  Like that could be a cool topic for one day to talk about, yeah.
• 24:57
  You were going to say something. What was it?
• 25:00
  You have something in mind. No idea anymore.
• 25:05
  It's OK. That happens to me all the time.
• 25:08
  Yeah. So back to, you know, back in
• 25:11
  track with the this idea of coping, using God as A to cope
• 25:16
  with things. Now one would wonder, well, when
• 25:20
  you're thinking bad thoughts, you want to pray.
• 25:23
  That's true, but you don't want to use prayer as also to cope
• 25:26
  with things. That's true.
• 25:27
  Prayer is should be an instinctual thing, a
• 25:30
  conversation, a meditation with that you are with God like 24/7
• 25:34
  when you go to sleep, when you wake up, it should be this
• 25:36
  instinctual thing. It shouldn't be something
• 25:38
  because so you're you're thinking something bad.
• 25:40
  Oh, God, please have mercy. And you start then reciting the
• 25:43
  prayer. Lord, who's in heaven.
• 25:44
  How would be your name of all right, right.
• 25:47
  Yeah. Whoa.
• 25:49
  You know you know who was a perfect example.
• 25:51
  Of the. Person that did not use even
• 25:54
  prayer as a coping mechanism. Paul.
• 25:58
  Yeah. Paul was, you know, he, he, he
• 26:00
  was going through a torment, you know, and, and he prayed to God.
• 26:04
  God, can you please take away this torment?
• 26:09
  But he was. Honest, though, in his prayer.
• 26:11
  Well, like that. You know, he was honest, like,
• 26:14
  oh, yeah, the fact that you bring in Paul, Paul up is
• 26:16
  because Moses also was, was honest.
• 26:20
  Oh yeah, in his prayer with God. Like in other words, God, why
• 26:24
  are you doing this to me? Yeah, no, dude, I literally have
• 26:27
  the the verse open right now. Oh, if you want me to read it.
• 26:29
  Yeah. You want me to?
• 26:30
  Yeah, go for it. So.
• 26:30
  So. Yeah.
• 26:31
  So, So Moses was dealing with how many people?
• 26:34
  Millions of millions of people, bro, he was, he was the leader
• 26:37
  of millions of people. I, you know, I don't, I can't
• 26:40
  even imagine that, but he would he, you know, he was praying to
• 26:44
  God with full honesty. And because the people were
• 26:47
  complaining, they were like, oh, when we were in Egypt.
• 26:50
  They were thinking of all the good.
• 26:51
  Things, all the good things, the food, the fish that they had,
• 26:53
  the cucumbers, all this stuff. And then Moses, you know, he
• 26:57
  heard the people. It says, it says in verse 10,
• 27:00
  Numbers 11, verse 10, Moses heard the people, family after
• 27:04
  family weeping at the entrance of their tents.
• 27:07
  The Lord was very angry. Moses was also provoked.
• 27:11
  So Moses asked the Lord, Why have you brought such trouble on
• 27:16
  your servant? Why are you angry with me?
• 27:19
  And why do you burden me with all these people?
• 27:23
  Did I conceive all these people? Did I give them birth?
• 27:27
  So you should tell me, Carry them at your breast, as a
• 27:31
  nursing mother carries a baby to the land that you swore to give
• 27:36
  their ancestors. Where can I get meat to give all
• 27:40
  these people? For they are weeping to me.
• 27:43
  Give us meat to eat. I can't carry all these people
• 27:47
  by myself. They are too much for me.
• 27:51
  If you are going to treat me like this, please kill me right
• 27:55
  now. If I have found favor with you
• 27:57
  if. You heard that if I have fine
• 28:00
  favor and you please kill me. Dude, that's how honest he was,
• 28:05
  no? He was.
• 28:06
  What do you get from that relationship that Moses had with
• 28:09
  God? Dude like a father and son.
• 28:11
  Literally like he wasn't coming to him to cope this.
• 28:14
  No, no, no. He was just like, yo, brother,
• 28:16
  like, why are you doing this to me?
• 28:18
  What he was that he trusted God so much to speak Yeah, to him in
• 28:25
  that way, in that way. I'm not saying for everybody to
• 28:27
  go ahead and right, right to God like that.
• 28:30
  But when we pray to God, have that level of honesty with him.
• 28:35
  Yeah. Why is this happening to me?
• 28:37
  Help me understand. Yeah.
• 28:38
  Yeah. You are his child, right?
• 28:40
  And he's your. Father, Exactly, Exactly.
• 28:43
  And then at the end, you know, obviously Moses went up to the
• 28:46
  people. He said God is not going to feed
• 28:47
  you for one day. He's not going to feed you for
• 28:49
  two days, not ten days, not not two months or like he's like
• 28:52
  he's going to feed you until the food comes out of your nostrils.
• 28:57
  But besides all that, you can see the difference too.
• 29:01
  Also here of like Moses used God as like my Lord and Savior, like
• 29:06
  he is my Lord and he's my God, He's my king.
• 29:09
  And then the people were using God as a coping mechanism to
• 29:11
  survive. Yeah.
• 29:12
  'Cause they'll be like, oh God, I need this.
• 29:14
  I pray that you do this. Can you do this for me?
• 29:17
  The resume is that that versus like, God, I'm here and I have
• 29:21
  absolutely no idea where I'm going.
• 29:24
  Right, Right. Something like that.
• 29:25
  Exactly. You're being completely honest.
• 29:27
  Yeah, I don't have a job. You're being honest with that.
• 29:33
  I don't. But I trust you.
• 29:35
  Right. But.
• 29:35
  But I'm complaining also, like, right.
• 29:38
  Right. What are we doing here?
• 29:39
  Guide me. I trust you.
• 29:41
  Why? Because you recognize that he is
• 29:43
  the Lord of. Your right of your life.
• 29:46
  That much to speak to him that way, that you trust in him.
• 29:48
  Yeah, now the people of Israel were complaining, but also Moses
• 29:52
  was complaining. But there's a difference here.
• 29:54
  The people of Israel were doubting.
• 29:57
  They were doubting. That's what God got angry.
• 29:59
  God was like, you kidding me? You're still doubting me after
• 30:02
  I've already fed you. They saw the sea being open.
• 30:05
  Right, this is all. After that, right, Yeah.
• 30:07
  Yeah, yeah, they saw the fire from the sky, I mean.
• 30:10
  That's what Moses was like. What more do you need?
• 30:12
  Yeah. That's why he was done.
• 30:14
  He was like, yeah, like, if they can't see you, like, kill me.
• 30:16
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:17
  And you know how much power that has that you said, if I have
• 30:21
  found favor in you, strike me now.
• 30:22
  Because he was so he was seeing what God could do and he knew
• 30:26
  that he could. If God, you would have killed
• 30:28
  him right there, right? He really wanted to die.
• 30:31
  He was done. Right now one would say, oh, he
• 30:33
  used suicide him. No, dude, no.
• 30:35
  He just had so much faith in God.
• 30:36
  He. Just wanted to.
• 30:37
  Be out of there. That's why, he said if I have
• 30:38
  found. Favor in you.
• 30:39
  Yeah, just kill me. Like, that's not not like, oh
• 30:42
  God, just kill me. Yeah.
• 30:43
  And you know. Nah, Nah.
• 30:44
  Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
• 30:46
  Yeah, because I mean. Someone wanted to be put out of
• 30:47
  his misery. At that point, yeah bro.
• 30:49
  He he wanted to just be with God.
• 30:51
  Exactly He. Was like, I was like alright to,
• 30:53
  to like whatever, to heck with them.
• 30:55
  Like if they want to perish, no, perish God, just take me.
• 30:57
  I'm done with this. There was another incident too,
• 31:00
  the fact that he brought up that when he another prayer to God
• 31:05
  where God's like I'm done with them.
• 31:06
  Oh dude. And I wonder if he did that to
• 31:09
  test Moses. Right.
• 31:10
  Interesting. Right.
• 31:10
  I'm done with them. And Moses.
• 31:12
  Like what? How can you do that?
• 31:14
  What are the nations going to think of you?
• 31:16
  A God who took them out of Egypt only to make them die in the
• 31:18
  desert? What would they think of you?
• 31:20
  Oh my God. Yeah.
• 31:21
  So he was making it all about God, Yes.
• 31:23
  Yeah, bro. You see what I mean?
• 31:25
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm not saying obviously his
• 31:28
  circumstance, obviously he was given a role that changed.
• 31:31
  History Generations. Up to where we are now, but that
• 31:36
  similar application can be applied to our lives.
• 31:39
  Absolutely. On how we see how he made, he
• 31:41
  made cut everything right? His breathing, his seeing, his
• 31:44
  hearing everything. We should also have that, just
• 31:49
  like Paul. Yeah, absolutely no, dude.
• 31:51
  Even when when, when, when God was like to Paul, he's like when
• 31:55
  when Paul was praying, he was like, take this, you know, thorn
• 31:58
  away from me. And God was like, no, my grace
• 32:00
  is sufficient. And then he was like, you know
• 32:03
  what, Thank you, God 'cause now, you know, I know that this is a
• 32:06
  way of like humbling me and saw them boast so.
• 32:10
  So he reckon he wasn't using God as a coping mechanism.
• 32:13
  No, he wasn't using prayer as a coping mechanism.
• 32:15
  He knew that God was God. And that's it as that's yeah,
• 32:18
  'cause he said. He said to them.
• 32:20
  Then I then realized that the spirit of torment that he sent,
• 32:24
  uh huh, right. So sometimes the testing of God
• 32:29
  comes right to build character absolutely as a child before for
• 32:33
  his presence. So even if it's temptation
• 32:36
  testing, God is the one who tested the mind and searches
• 32:39
  the. Heart Amen to that bro.
• 32:40
  Right. He doesn't bring all of this to
• 32:42
  the person who doesn't have the capacity to get through it
• 32:44
  right. And that's the scripture too.
• 32:46
  Oh yeah, James says this James chapter one, right?
• 32:50
  Verse 3, up to four, he says. Because you know that the
• 32:55
  testing of your faith produces endurance, and let any endurance
• 33:00
  have its full effect. So don't coward out and try to
• 33:03
  run away. All right?
• 33:04
  When, when you're going through that so that you may be mature.
• 33:08
  Yeah. Deep.
• 33:09
  Yeah. So endure it.
• 33:10
  So it says. Hold.
• 33:12
  On that's it, yes, he says, he says and let endurance have its
• 33:17
  full effect so there's a chance you can run away from it and he
• 33:21
  says so that you may be mature and complete lacking nothing.
• 33:28
  Hey man, wise words from James. That's basically.
• 33:31
  How to stop using God as copen mechanism?
• 33:33
  Yep, Yep. You have to hold on.
• 33:35
  Yeah, because that's. That's what I'm going through
• 33:38
  right now. It's like, you know, I finally
• 33:40
  get baptized. I finally am completely just
• 33:43
  surrendering. And this is when I've been
• 33:44
  attacked. I'm be a little bit vulnerable
• 33:46
  here, honest. In like, flesh really.
• 33:50
  It hasn't been this intense, maybe since I hit puberty.
• 33:53
  Like, I'm serious. Yeah, for everybody.
• 33:55
  Right, right, right. Man, I'm already a grown man at
• 33:57
  this point. I'm 27.
• 33:58
  I know I'm not an animal. I know I'm not an animal, but I
• 34:01
  know I'm not a kid on. That I'm so funny, dude.
• 34:04
  You know, and and it's just like, no and but like, you know,
• 34:07
  be back like back when I was using gyno scope of, you know,
• 34:10
  you fall, you're like, OK, that's when you start playing
• 34:12
  see hide and seek. You start hiding because you
• 34:14
  fell. Yeah, yeah.
• 34:15
  Oh God, I already failed you. I'm going to hide.
• 34:16
  Yeah, yeah, That's impossible, right?
• 34:18
  Instead of facing it, I'm like, OK, I fell, but I'm gonna keep
• 34:21
  going. I'm gonna keep pushing through,
• 34:23
  right until you like just having faith.
• 34:25
  It's good to God. It's going to change me.
• 34:26
  It's going to get to a point where it's not going to be any
• 34:28
  anywhere on my mind. It's just my whole thought
• 34:30
  process is going to be just God. Exactly, he said.
• 34:34
  Faith, right. What did those guys who wanted?
• 34:37
  They were falling in for bread. Hey, hey, Rabbi, we want to do
• 34:40
  the work of God. Oh, he's like, you want to do
• 34:42
  the work for God. This is the work for God that
• 34:45
  you may believe that listen. This is the work of God that you
• 34:49
  may believe of the one who he who he has sent.
• 34:53
  Yes. So you are doing the work,
• 34:55
  brother. You're having faith.
• 34:58
  Yep, absolutely. And you know what?
• 35:00
  He, I think this is where he says it.
• 35:01
  Right here. Let me put a letter for you.
• 35:02
  He says, what can we do to perform the works of God?
• 35:07
  They asked. Jesus replied this is the work
• 35:09
  of God that you believe in the one he has sent.
• 35:14
  And this is John chapter 6, verse 2829.
• 35:19
  Yeah, yeah. So that's that's true.
• 35:21
  So look, look, man, fight because what he just read in
• 35:26
  James Faith produces that. Yeah, dude, no endurance.
• 35:29
  You can't run anymore. Bro and endurance be running my
• 35:31
  whole. Life has its full effect, yes.
• 35:33
  And when you get there, you will realize that wisdom that you
• 35:35
  gain. You will lack nothing because
• 35:39
  his presence is with you. Yeah.
• 35:41
  So absolutely, absolutely. Also to wrap it up, I know
• 35:44
  sometimes I get involved with the political stuff, but I just
• 35:46
  wanted to mention for anybody who could be worried or starts
• 35:51
  like doesn't know where to go. I know, I know what Trump had
• 35:54
  just did. You know, he pretty much the
• 35:57
  Supreme Court is, you know, pretty much validating that the
• 36:03
  birthright be taken away for illegal grantee years.
• 36:07
  That's for real. Yeah, starting July 27, and it's
• 36:10
  the Supreme Court has given 30 days to the blue states wherever
• 36:13
  they have lawsuits to figure out whatever that means because it
• 36:15
  is an executive order by federal so.
• 36:19
  So it'll be federal, but will the states have their own?
• 36:21
  No, they can't because it's not a state issue, it's a federal
• 36:25
  issue. So, so I bring this up because
• 36:29
  you shouldn't worry. You shouldn't let this paper or
• 36:33
  you know, it's not my fault that I was born here or George and
• 36:38
  you have means of getting things done in this country.
• 36:41
  Others don't have that opportunity, right, Right.
• 36:43
  Don't let that make. Don't let that be your identity.
• 36:46
  Absolutely, I agree. Whoever.
• 36:47
  'S listening to this. Absolutely, right.
• 36:49
  We all have a much greater citizenship, which is in heaven.
• 36:52
  Yeah, Amen. Much greater than having the US
• 36:54
  citizenship or whatever, right? Right.
• 36:56
  That. Don't let that make everything
• 36:58
  for you. The whole reason for living in
• 37:00
  this country now, there's so much more to that.
• 37:02
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, all. Right.
• 37:03
  So I just wanted to to highlight that whoever was listening,
• 37:08
  right? No.
• 37:08
  No, no, it's true, man. No, dude, we just saw him look
• 37:11
  through that. As much as churches talk about
• 37:14
  all revival, this revival that look man, we have freedom.
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  Like so much freedom. The truth is that like an
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  awakening is going to come one day.
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  We don't know when maybe our children will experience it,
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  maybe we will experience it. I'm not sure.
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  But we just need to have faith. We really need to just have
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  faith in God because in first John, in first John, I think it
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  was in chapter 5, he says this is how we conquer the world, our
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  faith. And he says God's commandments
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  are not a burden. So just hold on, you know, let
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  suffering have its full effect. You know at the end of the day
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  you will lack nothing. It it says in James 5, I believe
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  13. If you're suffering, pray.
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  If you're sick, call on to the elders and they pray for you.
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  If you're cheerful, prays, right?
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  Yeah. If if you have committed a sin,
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  confess your sins, right? Be accountable to each other.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And pray and he will forget, and
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  you will be forgiven. Absolutely right.
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  Absolutely. So just.
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  You could call this elements of practicing the truth, if you
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  will. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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  No, I totally agree, actually. You know what?
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  That's funny. I just flipped right to it.
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  All right, go for it. It says here.
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  I guess we'll wind it up with this, unless anybody else have
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  something else to say. No, you can go for.
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  It no. So remember our brothers and
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  sisters that are listening to our podcast, It says this in
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  first John chapter 5 verse two to four.
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  He says this is how we know that we love God's children when we
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  love God and obey his commands. For this is what love for God is
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  to keep his commands and his commands are not a burden
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  because everyone who has been born of God conquers the world.
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  This is the victory that has conquered the world.