Latest / Success Story with Scott Clary / Lessons - Narratives Are Not Stories | John Hagel - Founder of Center For The Edge
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- 0:00First one, narratives are not stories.
- 0:13What does that mean?
- 0:14So just conscious, somebody hearing that, they're not going to say, what do you mean narratives
- 0:17are not stories?
- 0:18How does it have any impact on whether I'm going to lose my job?
- 0:21Well, most people, again, be narratives and stories to be the same thing.
- 0:25They're synonymous.
- 0:27You know, you can use either word.
- 0:28I make a big distinction between women.
- 0:31For me, a story is self-contained.
- 0:34It has a beginning, a middle, and an end to it, the end, the story's over.
- 0:39And the story is about me, the storyteller, or it's about some other people, real or imagined,
- 0:45but it's not about you.
- 0:47You can use your imagination, figure out what you would have done in that story, but it's
- 0:51not about you.
- 0:52So that's a story, at least the way I talk about it.
- 0:56For me, a narrative is very different.
- 0:59First of all, it's open-ended.
- 1:01There is no resolution yet.
- 1:04There's some kind of big threat or opportunity out in the future.
- 1:09Not clear whether it's going to be achieved or not.
- 1:12And the resolution of the narrative hinges on you.
- 1:16It's a call to action to say your choices, your actions are going to help determine how
- 1:22this narrative resolves.
- 1:24So it's a call to action, and I think trying it back to fear, and I talk about narratives
- 1:34at many levels.
- 1:35So I think there's personal narratives.
- 1:37I think there are corporate narratives, geographic narratives, movement narratives, that
- 1:42starting with the individual, I believe most of us, first of all, we've never really
- 1:47stepped back to articulate what's the narrative that's driving our life.
- 1:52What's our view of the future is a primarily driven by threat, a primarily driven by opportunity.
- 1:58And if so, what threat or what opportunity?
- 2:02And then what's our call to action to others?
- 2:05Do we have a call to action to others?
- 2:09Because in my experience, many of us who are increasingly consumed by fear because we're
- 2:14focusing on threat in the future, we lose trust in other people.
- 2:19We can't afford to rely on other people.
- 2:21We have to do it all ourselves.
- 2:23So there is no call to action to others.
- 2:26We become increasingly isolated versus no, where I want people to come together and help
- 2:32me to address this really big, exciting opportunity that's out in the future.
- 2:38And so I think the process of just stepping back and articulating that narrative that we
- 2:44have today, what is it that's driving our actions and choices today, but then reflecting
- 2:50on it to say, is this really the narrative that's going to help me to get the most impact
- 2:54that's meaningful to me?
- 2:57It can be very powerful.
- 2:58I view it as a catalyst in the journey beyond fear because in my experience, people who
- 3:03go through this exercise, they come up with this aha moment that they actually are
- 3:11focusing on fear and threat in the future.
- 3:14And that's what's driving their fear.
- 3:17And they're end to it's driving their current day actions, right, because they've got
- 3:22the movie.
- 3:23Yeah, very interesting.
- 3:25So this is almost taking like, you know, it's always best practice to even have a personal
- 3:31one, three, five year plan, but many people don't even have that.
- 3:35This is taking it to another degree is to have your own personal narrative for your
- 3:39life.
- 3:40Yeah.
- 3:41Right.
- 3:42What's the big long-term threat or opportunity, and not just like six months or even
- 3:46a year, decades ahead, what's the big red or opportunity that's motivating you today?
- 3:53That's motivating your actions today.
- 3:55And so that's, yeah, amazing.
- 3:59That's very powerful.
- 4:00That's very, it's a very, very good, incredible idea for people to take on.
- 4:05Okay.
- 4:06The second piece.
- 4:07Well, actually, can I just mention a corporate narrative because I think again, I talked
- 4:13about personal narratives, but corporate narratives, increasingly, I think, are important.
- 4:19And here, the challenge I find is when I talk to executives about corporate narratives,
- 4:24they say, oh, we have a narrative, we began in a garage, we faced incredible obstacles,
- 4:29we overcame them and accomplished amazing things.
- 4:32That's our narrative.
- 4:33And my point is, no, that's about you.
- 4:36What's your call to action to your customers, to the prospects out there?
- 4:40That's the big, exciting opportunity for them, and what action do they need to take?
- 4:46And it's not by your product, it's some action that is meaningful to them that will help
- 4:51them get that opportunity.
- 4:53And just a quick example on that, because I think they're very few corporate narratives,
- 4:57but hugely powerful in the world, increasingly driven by fear, is what Apple computer did
- 5:04in back in the 90s.
- 5:06They had this narrative that was framed around as slogan of think different.
- 5:11But if you unpack the slogan that was, you know, for decades, we had digital technology
- 5:15at tip-aware names, gave us numbers, put us in cubicles, narrow for the first time there's
- 5:21a generation of technology where we can express our unique potential and individuality.
- 5:27But it's not going to happen automatically.
- 5:29You need to think different.
- 5:32Will you think different?
- 5:34It's the reason why for many people, I think Apple became the equivalent of a religion.
- 5:39They were talking about such a deep aspiration that customers had, and they weren't talking
- 5:45about Apple.
- 5:46They were talking about the customer and the opportunity for the customer and the actions
- 5:50they needed to take.
- 5:52So anyway, I'll just offer that as I think an additional opportunity here that is missed
- 5:58by most companies.
- 6:00What does passion mean in the context of fear and overcoming fear?
- 6:03Yeah, so first of all, again, I get everybody in my experience has a different definition
- 6:09of passion.
- 6:11Based on my research, I've ended up focusing on a very specific form of passion.
- 6:16I call it the passion of the explorer, and it has three components to it.
- 6:21One is people have this passion have a long-term commitment to having an increasing impact
- 6:27in a domain that excites them.
- 6:30So they're there for the future and having more and more impact there.
- 6:35Second item is when confronted with unexpected challenges, they get excited.
- 6:40This is an opportunity for them to learn how to have even more impact.
- 6:45So they're excited by it.
- 6:47And then the third element is when they're confronted with these unexpected challenges.
- 6:53Our first reaction is, who else can I connect with?
- 6:56Who can help me get to a better answer faster?
- 6:59So they're extremely well connected.
- 7:02And I think that that's the combination of those three elements.
- 7:06Now you turn mounting performance pressure into excitement.
- 7:11This is an opportunity to have more and more impact in the area that really excites me.
- 7:17So I think that I would say one of the challenges we face is that I'm going to generalize,
- 7:28but I think particularly in large organizations around the world, passion is deeply suspect.
- 7:34You don't want passionate people.
- 7:36This kind of passion, when I talk to executives about passion, oh yeah, we want to
- 7:41passionate workers who will work nights and weekends for one of the signed tasks.
- 7:48No, the passion that I'm talking about, those people ask a lot of questions.
- 7:53That's distracting.
- 7:54Why do we ask so many questions?
- 7:56They take too much risk.
- 7:57They deviate from the script that they've been assigned.
- 8:00No, we don't want passionate workers.
- 8:03We want workers who will do their assigned tasks reliably and efficiently.
- 8:07The reason why, again, I did a survey in the US workforce at most 14% of US workers have
- 8:17this kind of passion of the explorer about their work, 86% do not.
- 8:22So I think it's a huge opportunity and need for all of us to really find the passion that
- 8:29excites us and find a way to really focus on it and that in an environment and culture
- 8:35where we're discouraged from it.
- 8:37I mean, again, even in school, we were taught, you know, listen to the teacher, memorize
- 8:44what the teacher has to say.
- 8:46If you've got a passion, do it out on the playground or maybe at home after school, but when
- 8:52you're in school, just listen and do the assigned tasks.
- 8:56And that was to prepare us for the work environment that we were going into.
- 9:00So now.