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MNF Recap, Christian McCaffrey's Touches & Week 5 Rookie Draft · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 2: What's up everybody?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky, Rhett back with you.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, coming off of a Monday.
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  Speaker 3: Night massacre, I think that would be an appropriate way
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  Speaker 3: to describe what we saw last night.
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  Speaker 1: Buck.
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  Speaker 2: How are you doing man? Welcome back from from lod
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  Speaker 2: and how was the flight?
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  Speaker 4: A long one?
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  Speaker 5: Then I'm gonna do another one this weekend, so back
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  Speaker 5: and forth. I will say, Rhett, you were a one
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  Speaker 5: about the lounges, making sure you make our way to
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  Speaker 5: certain lounges MX lounge version and gotta get it done loud.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it. There's a lot, a lot of
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  Speaker 4: fun hanging there. But man, eleven hours, you're gonna.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Spend more time in like international airspace in the last
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  Speaker 1: in the next seven days than in either London or
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  Speaker 1: the United States. So that's that's what It's pretty solid.
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  Speaker 1: Good for you, man, But.
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  Speaker 4: You know, but you know what makes it worth it
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  Speaker 4: being diamond. We won't we want.
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  Speaker 5: Airline, but you know what, you know what it's worth
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  Speaker 5: it When you're a diamond, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, joying Now it's all going away, brother.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, No, No, they talked about some changes. They talked
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  Speaker 4: about some changes trying to bring it back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what. This is a glimpse inside
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  Speaker 2: to the scouting robe.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, we talked about the scouting show about
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  Speaker 3: hotel points and airline miles than the road dog scouts.
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  Speaker 2: Buck, let's jump into last night's game.
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  Speaker 3: This was a to say, it was a buck kicking
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  Speaker 3: his innerceavement. Twenty four to three is the final score.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't even feel that close in a game where
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  Speaker 3: the Giants offensively ran the ball pretty well but didn't
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  Speaker 3: really have to do anything.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, sorry, not the Giants.
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  Speaker 3: The Seahawks random pretty well, but other than that, they
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  Speaker 3: didn't have to really do anything offensively. They just throw
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  Speaker 3: your defense out there and watch the Giants implode offensively,
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  Speaker 3: which is what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Eleven sacks, turnovers.
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  Speaker 3: The Giants couldn't do anything offensively in this game, and
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  Speaker 3: it felt like Pete Carroll on the Sea Hawks were
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  Speaker 3: content to just, hey, let's just run the ball and
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  Speaker 3: get out of here.
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  Speaker 1: They're not going to do anything on the other side.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's something to it.
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  Speaker 5: It was very kind of like a throwback feel to
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  Speaker 5: this game when it came from the Seahawks perspective defense
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  Speaker 5: was able to get after the eleven sacks and the
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  Speaker 5: relentless pressure that they were able to apply on Daniel Jones.
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  Speaker 4: To me, that's what stood out.
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  Speaker 5: This is a team that has really tried to find
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  Speaker 5: its way on defense, and we're beginning to see the
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  Speaker 5: last two classes that they've stacked together, some of the
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  Speaker 5: free agent additions that they've added to it. This is
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  Speaker 5: more like the vintage Seahawks teams that we remember from
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  Speaker 5: the twenty tens. If they're able to kind of harass
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  Speaker 5: quarterbacks and bruising, batter running backs and wide receivers like
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  Speaker 5: they were.
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  Speaker 4: On Monday Night, this Seattle Seahawk.
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  Speaker 5: Team looks really, really good in a division that also
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  Speaker 5: features a bully into San Francisco forty nine ers. This
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  Speaker 5: looks like a team that can go toe to toe
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  Speaker 5: with some of those top teams.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hawks and Niners first matchup will be pretty interesting here.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I kept looking at what the Giants were
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  Speaker 1: dealing with, right and I'll be they're short handed coming
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  Speaker 1: in along the offensive line. Andrew Thomas is out again
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  Speaker 1: has been out. Obviously, They're still not quite where they
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  Speaker 1: want to be on the right side. But then you
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  Speaker 1: know you got John Michael Schmidtz, the rookie center who
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  Speaker 1: leaves in the first quarter of the game. You gotta
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  Speaker 1: move Bretison over to center. Lemieux comes in and guard.
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  Speaker 1: Then Lemieux goes down in the fourth quarter, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about like preseason rotations of offensive linemen in
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  Speaker 1: here in the second half, and it showed. But I
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  Speaker 1: think to say that it was all because the giants
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  Speaker 1: Seva patchwork offensive line right now is not giving enough
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  Speaker 1: proper respect to the Seattle Seahawks, who not only thirty
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  Speaker 1: six pressures this week, okay, thirty six pressures to leave
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  Speaker 1: the league Daniel Jones and the Giants this week. But
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  Speaker 1: it's not just this week. They led the league in
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  Speaker 1: pressures last week too. Like this, they are sandwiched right
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  Speaker 1: in between the forty nine ers and the Cowboys amongst
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  Speaker 1: teams that are getting the most pressure on quarterbacks right
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  Speaker 1: now at number two. That's pretty dang good. And who's
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  Speaker 1: who's doing it? Yeah, Newtendan wils who's part of it?
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  Speaker 1: How about Derek Hall, the rookie second round pick from Auburn.
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  Speaker 1: And we didn't talk about a ton really going into
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  Speaker 1: the draft last year. But you know it was one
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  Speaker 1: of those guys that was putting a ton of pressure
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  Speaker 1: on Daniel Jones last night. How about Boye Mafe really
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  Speaker 1: starting to come on the second round pick a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years agout of Minnesota, Like they've got some young
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  Speaker 1: players in there, let you know some vintage you know,
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  Speaker 1: some veteran excuse me, guys as well. And then you
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  Speaker 1: had a vintage performance from Bobby Wagner too. And when
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  Speaker 1: you start getting all that pressure DJ, that's when guys
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  Speaker 1: like Devin Witherspoon start to pay off in the back end.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna get to Witherspoons just a second. I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna go back though. You mentioned Derek Hall. Let's go
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  Speaker 3: back to the press scouting pre draft nuggets on him.
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  Speaker 3: So he was almost sixt three, two hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 3: four pounds. He had thirty four and a half inch arms,
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  Speaker 3: so really really long arms. He ran four five five,
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  Speaker 3: which is an outstanding time. I go back through my
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  Speaker 3: notes on him. He was my sixty fourth overall player.
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  Speaker 3: Long and explosive, he's a little bit tight hip. They
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  Speaker 3: used him kind of as a walk around. Blitzer moved
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  Speaker 3: him around, let him work up and down the line
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  Speaker 3: of scrimmage. He could really really close. The effort was outstanding,
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  Speaker 3: which we always preach on here about that being one
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  Speaker 3: of the key traits of every elite pass rusher is
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  Speaker 3: the effort and the consistency of the effort. He could
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  Speaker 3: really set the edge in the run game as well.
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  Speaker 3: So nice to see him kind of emerging that burst
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  Speaker 3: that we saw in college. That's translated, But I want
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  Speaker 3: to go the highlight of the day. I mean, Devin
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  Speaker 3: Witherspoon has two sacks, has a pick six ninety plus
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  Speaker 3: yards down there right on the goal line. He was
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  Speaker 3: all over the field and they're playing him inside at
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  Speaker 3: nickel because of some injuries. And I go back through
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  Speaker 3: and I look at my notes. You know, this ought
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  Speaker 3: to be encouraging to you if you're a little undersized
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  Speaker 3: out there and you love the.
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  Speaker 2: Game of football.
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  Speaker 4: And he said, maybe I'm too small.
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  Speaker 3: The guy you're looking at with the with the pick
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  Speaker 3: six here and the two sacks was one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: fifty pounds as a freshman in college. They played him inside,
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  Speaker 3: they played him outside. He ended up getting up to
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty one pounds by the combine, but
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  Speaker 3: I had compared him to Samari Roll coming out, and
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  Speaker 3: he was the top corner for me in the draft
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  Speaker 3: in this last year's class, but in terms of a
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  Speaker 3: slighter frame, but just unbelo evil instincts, ball skills, playmaking ability.
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  Speaker 3: Buck watching that game last night and seeing him playing
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  Speaker 3: the nickel, I was thinking of Antoine Winfield Senior, and
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  Speaker 3: I know he's taller than him, Antoine Winfield Senior, I
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  Speaker 3: think with five nine or maybe even a little under
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  Speaker 3: five to nine, But the way he played that nickel position.
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  Speaker 4: I saw the same thing last night with Witherspoon.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's not a bad comparison because you
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  Speaker 5: just think about what Antoine Winfield was able to do
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  Speaker 5: in the league for a long time, and he's certainly
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  Speaker 5: passed down some of those tips and instincts to his son.
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  Speaker 5: But for Witherspoon, the thing that stood out to me
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  Speaker 5: is the nickel position is the hardest position to master
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  Speaker 5: in the second year because you're having to deal with
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  Speaker 5: the money game, the passing game two way goes from
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  Speaker 5: wide receivers. The instincts and awareness that are required to
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  Speaker 5: play that position, it's typically not one that you can
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  Speaker 5: put a novice in there. He jumped in after Jamal
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  Speaker 5: Adams subse a concussion and they don't skip a beat.
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  Speaker 5: They bliss him off the edge a couple of times
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  Speaker 5: he gets in there. It makes plays. We've seen it
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  Speaker 5: on tape. He wasn't afraid to mix it up, putting
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  Speaker 5: another playmaker owned the field of the position where he's
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  Speaker 5: kind of close to the ball. The Seahawks might have
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  Speaker 5: accidentally uncover something that allows their defense to go to
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  Speaker 5: another level this season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't play with any hesitation. He trusts his
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  Speaker 3: eyes and he pulls the trigger and goes. And that's
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  Speaker 3: something you saw as a result of tape study, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, which he did at Illinois.
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  Speaker 2: They raved about it.
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  Speaker 3: And obviously he's doing the same thing here with Pete
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  Speaker 3: Carroll and these Seahawks. So a great, great start to
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  Speaker 3: the career for Devin Witherspoon. Somebody who's having an unbelievable
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  Speaker 3: year is with the forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 2: That shouldn't be a shock. It's Christian McCaffrey.
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  Speaker 3: This is a perfect marriage of skill set which is
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  Speaker 3: special with scheme and with Kyle Shanahan an offensive line,
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  Speaker 3: and he's been outstanding. But you look at the touches here, man,
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  Speaker 3: it's piling up. You look at this game Week four
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  Speaker 3: against the Cardinals, twenty seven for McCaffrey, twenty four for
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  Speaker 3: everybody else. The productions off the charts there, rat But
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  Speaker 3: when you look at just the touches, he's on pace
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  Speaker 3: for three hundred and forty carries. That would be a
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  Speaker 3: career high by thirty something rushes. He also catching the
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  Speaker 3: ball out of the backfield as well.
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  Speaker 4: You see the.
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  Speaker 3: Number forty six percent of the team's touches, most in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL for Christian McCaffrey. Is this Is this a concern?
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  Speaker 3: Is this something they need to monitor and dial down
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  Speaker 3: a little bit? Or did you just go with the hey,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to run to the wheels fall off on
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  Speaker 3: this one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm okay with running till the wheels
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  Speaker 1: fall off, as long as that's in, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: the third weekend of February and not like week sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and not into the playoffs right where you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about. You know, yeah, he's see how he's limited,
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  Speaker 1: didn't practice all week, and you know, maybe he can
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  Speaker 1: give us, you know, fifteen fifteen, twenty, you know, snaps
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  Speaker 1: or carry. I hope it doesn't come to that. And look,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he is a big, strong, physical dude, but
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  Speaker 1: he has had, you know, some durability issues. And what
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  Speaker 1: eighty carries already on pace for three hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 1: that's just what the carries and not in the pass game.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a lot of touches. Would be for sure
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  Speaker 1: a career high if it keeps up at this pace.
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  Speaker 1: I was just looking the rest of the running backs
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  Speaker 1: twenty five combined carries for Elijah Mitchell and I threw
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  Speaker 1: Kyle ust Check in there too, so like they just
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  Speaker 1: they don't have a ton of other, you know, carries
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  Speaker 1: to kind of pass around there. It's kind of all
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  Speaker 1: going to McCaffrey. But it's look when you look at
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  Speaker 1: the success rate in so many different ways, like he
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  Speaker 1: is getting a first down or a touchdown on thirty
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  Speaker 1: percent of his carries. Pretty efficient right there. He leads
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  Speaker 1: the league in yards per carry. He's second only to
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  Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift and Bijon who have thirty fewer carries. I said,
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  Speaker 1: nearly leads the league in yards per carries, second only
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  Speaker 1: to those two guys. The explosive runs way up there
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  Speaker 1: at the top more impressibly here, and this tells you
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  Speaker 1: a little bit something about how good the offensive line is,
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  Speaker 1: and then how good he is. He is second in
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  Speaker 1: rushing yards before contact, right so he is the second
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  Speaker 1: most rushing yards before he gets touched, and then he's
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  Speaker 1: first in yards after contact. So that is truly like
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  Speaker 1: marrying really good offensive line, play good scheme with an
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  Speaker 1: elite running back. Right there, I understand why you want
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  Speaker 1: to keep feeding him the rock buck.
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  Speaker 5: I just looked at the snippets we talk about his
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  Speaker 5: touch He's not getting touched when he touches the ball,
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  Speaker 5: Like three of those touchdowns, he didn't get touched like
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  Speaker 5: it was like playing flag football. So I understand the
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  Speaker 5: concern because it's early in the year and it might
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  Speaker 5: be a situation where you're monitoring the carriers. Maybe in
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  Speaker 5: the middle of the year, maybe you have to dial
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  Speaker 5: back and scale it back, But right now it's working
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  Speaker 5: so well. Man, it's hard to say, hey, guys, I
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  Speaker 5: know our guy's crushing it. He's one of the more
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  Speaker 5: productive players in the National Football League. Let's make sure
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  Speaker 5: we kind of use him wisely. He's been so good
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  Speaker 5: for this team. That's just hard. Thirteen straight games he's
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  Speaker 5: touch He scored a touchdown for the Niners.
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  Speaker 4: I understand it. You talk about the perfect marriage between
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  Speaker 4: player and scheme.
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  Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey teaming up with Kyle Shanahan in this game
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  Speaker 5: has been lights out. That's why we're seeing the numbers
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  Speaker 5: that we're seeing from the fantastic All Pro playmate.
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  Speaker 3: While he's got a couple of big ones coming up,
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  Speaker 3: starting with the Dallas Cowboys, a Sunday nighter at home
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  Speaker 3: that's going to be a huge one against a really
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  Speaker 3: good Then they go on the road at Cleveland with
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  Speaker 3: Miles Garrett Jim Schwartz to orchestraight in that defense. So
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  Speaker 3: he's got a couple big tests coming up. Maybe if
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  Speaker 3: you are going to dial back the touches, maybe you
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  Speaker 3: wait for a couple weeks. Let's get to these next
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  Speaker 3: two games, which are going to be very difficult opponents,
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  Speaker 3: and then maybe you try and dial it back just
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. On the other side of that thing, Buck,
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  Speaker 3: you look at the Arizona Cardinals in that ballgame. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: they're competitive. It's in the third corner. They're competitive. They've
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  Speaker 3: been competitive each and every week. Is there something that
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  Speaker 3: we missed that we didn't that we didn't process correctly
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  Speaker 3: in the offseason. What are expectations of how terrible this
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  Speaker 3: was going to be and yet how competitive this team
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  Speaker 3: has been. Whatud we miss I think we might have
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  Speaker 3: missed out on a few different things.
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  Speaker 5: More money awesome for bringing in the right players to
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  Speaker 5: kind of blend in with Jonathan Gannon's system and culture,
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  Speaker 5: and then Jonathan Gannon being able to find the right
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  Speaker 5: buttons to motivate his team to play ard.
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  Speaker 4: There are a lot of things that you can make
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  Speaker 4: up in terms of your deficiencies.
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  Speaker 5: If you play or you give great effort, you have
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  Speaker 5: a level of physicality to your game.
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  Speaker 4: When you watch the Cardinals, they have all of those things.
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  Speaker 5: And really, when I look at this roster, you have
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  Speaker 5: a bunch of misfits and cast dolls that are finally
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  Speaker 5: having an opportunity to kind of shine on the biggest stage.
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  Speaker 5: Think about Josh Dobbs, who was kind of languishing in
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  Speaker 5: Cleveland as a number three.
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  Speaker 4: He has an opportunity in Arizona to be the starter.
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  Speaker 5: He is taking full advantage of those reps, and so
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  Speaker 5: it's just kind of I would say we talked about
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  Speaker 5: the perfect marriage between Christian McCaffrey, Klee, Shnan. But you
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  Speaker 5: kind of have that going on in Arizona. You have
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  Speaker 5: a coach who wants guys that are hungry, guys that
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  Speaker 5: are getting after it, and you have a bunch of
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  Speaker 5: misfits that are playing really, really well, and even though
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  Speaker 5: the record isn't what they want, it's hard to knock
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  Speaker 5: the effort into the hustle because it looks great.
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  Speaker 4: On tape now.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm happy for Josh Dobbs because this is somebody
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  Speaker 3: again he's only played playing in eight games since twenty
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  Speaker 3: eighteen throughout his career, so he didn't hadn't got much opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: He now he's got four starts here, he's not turning
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  Speaker 3: the ball over, he's got no interceptions, He's completing over
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  Speaker 3: seventy percent of his passes. So that kind of shows
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: you in this league, if you're going to offensively, just
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: don't turn the ball over, protect the football, I get
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  Speaker 3: the ball out of your hand, be accurate with it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's they're not the most dynamic team. I
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  Speaker 3: like Michael Wilson that the rookie receiver has got a
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  Speaker 3: chance to be a really good player for them. But hey,
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  Speaker 3: let's just protect the football and on defense they play
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  Speaker 3: so hard, and I give Gannon a lot of credit
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  Speaker 3: for how hard they're playing on that side of the ball.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's take a break. When we come back,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to jump into the rookies. The rookie Draft,
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  Speaker 3: one of our favorite things we do each and every week.
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  Speaker 3: We can recap last week. Spoiler alert, I didn't go
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  Speaker 3: well for Rhett. We'll get to that right after this
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: Sunday Morning Football is back on NFL Network and bigger
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  Speaker 3: than ever. Live from Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London, Trevor
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: Lawrence and the Jags take on Josh Allen and the Bills. Rise,
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  Speaker 3: Shine and watch a full day of football Sunday, October
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  Speaker 3: eighth at nine thirty am Eastern only on NFL Network
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  Speaker 3: and streaming on NFL Plus. Looking forward to that one.
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  Speaker 3: Bucky will be there so I have a chance to
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: recap that one when he gets back. Speaking of recapping,
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: looking at the rookie draft last week, we had to
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: change it up a little bit where we didn't have
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: known about the quarterback situation, so we did a running back,
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  Speaker 3: We did a pass catcher at the tight end position,
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  Speaker 3: as well as the receiver position. And hey lo and
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  Speaker 3: behold look at that? Who won all three? With eight chan,
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  Speaker 3: Pooka Nakua and Sam Laporta. That's a nine point week
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  Speaker 3: for me, Bucky with three second place finishes. Well, if
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  Speaker 3: there's three guys in it, I finished first and all
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  Speaker 3: of them Bucky finished second.
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  Speaker 1: Oait Yeah, HTT got sake.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: RHTT came up with nothing. Bucky and myself.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: We're tied at the top now for the season with
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: eighteen points. Rehtt's looking up a little bit. He's got
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: some ground to make up. The good news for you,
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: RHTT is that you are going to get the first
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: pick here in just a moment. But before we do that,
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: I'll let you crawl a little bit because you were
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: on the Pookin Nakua train early. Obviously you don't get
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: the benefit of the points there because of poor drafting,
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: but I'll give you credit for being on that one
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: a little early.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Well, look, when you have the trust of your head
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: coach and the trust to your quarterback, you're gonna get
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: set and Pokinakua, you know, while not maybe the most
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: elite athlete that we add in the wide receiver class,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: shows you that he can get open he can catch
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: the ball, you can make contested catches, physical catches. He
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: can get inside on slant routes and be it, you know,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: make himself open for Matthew Stafford. And even when he
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: when maybe even isn't you know the read, Stafford just
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: loves getting this dude the ball, especially on those inbreaking
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: routes in that fifteen to twenty yard range, I mean
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: those intermediate throws. Stafford eats on that stuff all day long.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: And poka Akua, I mean like seventy five percent of
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: his routes feels like they are coming some sort of
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: inbreaking cut in that intermediate range. And he is just
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: so nifty at finding a way to get open in
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: that area. And then of course his game, his first
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: career touchdown is the game winner. You love that, And
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: it's just it's all working out right now. And I
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: mean we're talking about the most prolific rookie receiver in
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: NFL history through four games. Pretty dang good. Yeah, he
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: was on my team week one. You better believe it.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: We were on it from the jump, on it.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: From the jump.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: But you don't get any carrier, We don't get any
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: body points for being able to point him out in
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: week one, we're now in week four.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Remove me on it.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: This to me is it's kind of like the perfect
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: thing when it comes to having a sweet tooth, Like
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: you got your type, you know what kind of desserts
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: you like, and you go back to the well. And
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: so I go and I look at the comparison between
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: Cooper Cup and Pooka, and.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Size wise they're very very similar.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: Speed wise they were also similar, and you look at
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: their careers in terms of how they got down at
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: BYU and Eastern Washington respectively, there are a lot of similarities.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: And so when you have Cooper Cup go out, they're
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: able to basically put a clone in and put him
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: in the same spot and allow them to have kind
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: of the similar success. To me, the challenge isn't what's
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: going to happen with Poka as he's continued to do
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: it with Cooper Cup out. What are the Rams going
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: to do when Cooper Cup comes back because he's been
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: so productive in this role.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Do I want to remove him from this role and
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: put Cooper Cup there?
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: Or do I want to maybe think about moving Cooper
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: Cup around and allowing Pooka to be productive because the
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: offense has kind of been working with Pooker kind.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: Of running over the middle.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Maybe we can do some other stuff with Cooper Cup
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: and find a way to get both of these guys
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: on the field at the same time cats on a
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: bunch of touchdowns.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because to me,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think this is going to be a problem.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: If you think back to you know, the teams with
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Robert Woods there with Cooper Cup that we always talked
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: about how the fact that the changeable that that's what
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: make this makes this McVeigh offense role, is that these
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: guys can all move around, play every position. They run
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: so much bunch that they condense the formation down so
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: they're stacked, and you know, they're all going to get
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: a chance to work in the middle of the field
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: and work on crossers and really kind of operate in space.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Uh you know, which is is something that they can
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: all do. So you know, ratt For me, I don't
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: think that's going to be I don't think that's going
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: to be an issue.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: When when Cooper Cup comes back.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: No, and now you know you add Cooper back into
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: the mix and you've already seen we talked about a
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: little bit about it on the Monday Pod deet that
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: you know, Ard Williams is really rounding into form, as
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: you know, a lead back type of guy. Scored touchdowns
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: on their first two possessions in Indianapolis, and so like,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of slowly but surely you're talking about
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: a nice little young core on offense. And then you
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: know you've got the big play potential with two to
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: two at well obviously Van Jefferson still there, so like
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you're building some depth there now they can get a
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: little bit healthier up front on the offensive line. I mean,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is rolling this year too, so I got
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: no issues and no worries about him finding the open dude,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: no matter who it is in that Rams offense.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: All right, you got you got a goose egg last week.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: You've got the first pick, so you got it. You
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: have to find a point score here. You have to
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: at least get a one or two place finish here
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: with this first overall pick.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Right, who are you going with?
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: It's c J Stroud.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: C J.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Stroud, Texans, lock it up, give me the give me
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the QB. He's you know, he's three hundred a game
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: right now? You know he's he scored, He's found a
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: terrific chemistry with Nico Collins. Give me CJ. Stroud get
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: two tough downs another three hundred yards, all right?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I like that one. Man, I could I could go
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: a couple different places here. Pukah's was good to me
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: last week. But man, going up against the Eagles, I
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: know the Eagles gave up thirty burger to Washington, but
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: I think they kind of bounce back in that one.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: So I think I'm gonna man, I've got to get points.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: So look, I'm gonna go with Richardson. I'm gonna take
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: the second quarterback. Richardson's been a point score as She's
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: got four rushing touchdowns already, so I feel good that
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: he's gonna at least get me a point for second place.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Maybe he gets me the full three points for being first.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: But both quarterbacks there off the board, Buck, which gives
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: you some strategy. You could you can go anywhere you
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: want to give him back to back pace.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it gives me a lot of strategy. I used
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: to watch a team when I was a kid.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: I used to love when a playing comes together, because
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: right now the plan is really coming together.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Bijon Robinson right here
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: at number three, and then I'm gonna follow it up
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: with Puka. So now I have two of the most
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: prolific guys in our little draft all my squall right now,
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: and I'll worry about having to take Bryce Young later,
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: but I've already got it. Like I look forward to
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: uh hoisting the trophy for week five because.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I interesting that you took Bijon going up against this
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Texans defense coached by Demico Ryans that is absolutely playing
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: inspired right now and limited the Steelers to what like
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: zero yards. It felt like after watching that game. Okay, okay, Buck,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: if that's the strategy, go for it, Bud.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go up pull us in personal saw Bijon
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: do all kinds of stuff while you were watching Toy Story.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: I was watching it for real. This dude is is
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: amazing now. I think he's gonna get enough touches.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: All right, dj what do you got?
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Hmm, Look, I'm gonna go uh. I'm gonna go with
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: e Chan. I'm going eight Chan. I'm gonna go with
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: the running back from the Dolphins. Who's been who's been awesome?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: And and by the way, uh rtt you're up next,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: but I'll just kick it to you on this one.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: This is like, if you've got a chance to watch
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Chris Johnson play with an explosive vertical passing attack, like
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: think about CJ two K getting all those yards where
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: everbody was just kind of packed in there to try
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: and slow him down he was the offense.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Now imagine him playing with Tyreek Hill and Waddle and all.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: The speed outside which is gonna scare safeties out of
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: there and give him that type of space.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: That's literally what it looks like.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: It looks like they've got Chris Johnson back there going
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: up against light boxes.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: It's just not fair.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: This is tough, guys. I mean, there's is it though.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: There's just nothing left at the running back spot. Jamir Gibbs,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I look these you know, really talented dude, but it's
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: been a dud thus far. It's been an absolute dud,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and I can I trust it. I mean, obviously I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: don't have to take the running back right now because
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: you guys both have your running backs. So all I'm
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: trying to do ear is find my best path forward.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: From the receiver spot.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: And we got back to back picks, buddy, So you
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: can do whatever you want here.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll pay attention.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: All right, Me up with the lock, me up with
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: a Flowers. I think it's gonna come together here. I
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: think we're gonna we're gonna start to see this thing.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Role give me say Flowers the wide out spot and whatever,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: gimme Gibbs. I don't know, I don't know there's anything
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: else to do at this point.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I love I love I love the point the fact
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: that you've got your strategy session that's taking place there.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: When you have back to back picks and they're the
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: last two picks you're gonna have in the draft. There's
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: absolutely zero relevance to which one of those guys you
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: took first, Absolutely none.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: But yet Rhet has he's scrimmaging this thing, buck. Can
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: you imagine in a draft room? Can you imagine retting
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: a draft room?
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Like uh all right, uh mister Lewis, gentlemen, Ager Lewis,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: we're on the we're on the clock right now.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh crap, we're on the clock. Yeah.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: No, we can come to man for a four months.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: If I not see the ticker. With the picks, we'd
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: be in good shape.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: But we don't.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: We don't have a ticker.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Give me a ticker, all right, I've got my quarterback
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: in Richardson, I've got.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, no one else is okay, no one
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: else is picking. Let's go. Come on.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: So I've I've got I've got my receiver choice here
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: and I am actually I could go in a couple
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: different areas. I'm gonna just make sure that I like
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: the matchup here. One second, I just want to double
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: check because I want to make sure I'm making the
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: right decision. Yep, I'm gonna go. I'm I'm going with
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Michael Wilson here. Is this the first time he's been
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: selected in the draft?
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: It is Michael Wilson out of Stanford, coming off of
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: a huge game last week.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Buck.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: By the way, Michael Wilson and Pokin Nakua both trained
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: with with Hushman.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Zada in the run up to the draft.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: If you're a receiver and you want to get ready
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: figure for the NFL, yeah, maybe go work out with
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: him because and oh, by the way, who else t
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Higgins when he was going through the draft process, talk
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: about guys who were you know, underrated and who got
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: incredible value with where they were selected.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Who's doing a great job there? You got the last
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: pick bucket, Well, I mean, I don't have a choice.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Bryce Young Bryce s Youngnings has to
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: has to find a way to get it done for
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: the Carolina Panthers. It has been really extremely disappointing to
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: see this offense and to see what Bryce shan has
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: had to work with. Uh, the production hasn't been there,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: and I didn't think that he would set the world
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: on fire. But I thought, and many of us talked
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: about we kind of felt like this Panthers team would
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: be a playoff contender based on some of the pieces
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: that they had in place defensively and how they would
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: get it going. That hasn't materialized, and my guys getting
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: battered and beat up, and I'm beginning to worry about
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: I'm losing this confidence.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: But this is the bouts back week.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Let's say week five, Bryce Shon finds a way to
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: put some points on the board.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, all right, Well, hey, he's got better every game.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: When you look at it, the trend line is is
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: improving each and every week. So hopefully this is the
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: maybe a breakout game there for Bryce Young. All Right,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: that's gonna do it for the rookie draft. This is
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: a this is a bounce back week for rett I
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: can feel it. I like the squad that he's assembled.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I think he's got a chance to maybe score point or.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Two this week, which will be exciting.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Get him back in the mix a little bit, see
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: if we can make this competitive.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: All Right, that's going to do it for today. On
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: tomorrow's show.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Looking forward to this one because as much as we
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: talk about the rookies on the offensive side of the ball,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: we're going to shift the focus and the attention to
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball on tomorrow's episode. So
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: encourage you guys to join us. Appreciate all the ratings
• 25:23
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• 25:25
  Speaker 3: those tremendously. That's going to do it for us today.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: We'll catch it tomorrow on Move the Sticks.