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- 0:04Listen to the noise. Listen to the passion in hand
- 0:07and path. It's John again.
- 0:09It's Donnie's. Let's me.
- 0:14Oh yeah, the green dump by the fish chance.
- 0:18The one for Scotland. Hello and welcome back to the
- 0:30Scots for the Mic Podcast. It's great to have you back on.
- 0:32It's been a whirlwind couple of weeks in Scottish football
- 0:35that's seen a lot of turbulence for a lot of clubs, most notably
- 0:39Celtic. I'm joined by Celtic fan Niall
- 0:42Kavanaugh and Aaron Mackintosh to discuss everything that's
- 0:45been going on. How are you both?
- 0:47Good. Thank you.
- 0:49Yeah, very good. I'm not a Celtic fan.
- 0:51Just to make sure that. You wanted.
- 0:52You wanted. My like I was a.
- 0:53Celtic fan. As well, Yeah, we've got wreath
- 0:55Rovers of fan iron on, so we can start quickly by going over the
- 1:01would you call it a disaster class at Celtic, Obviously
- 1:04Wolford nonsense coming into the job, 4 losses in a row, first
- 1:07time that's happened since 1978. Yeah, it's been a, it's been a
- 1:11terrible start for Wolford, Nancy.
- 1:14It's just it's never really got going.
- 1:17He came in and said that, you know, I had a quick chat with
- 1:20Martin O'Neill, I'm not going to change anything.
- 1:22And then he's implemented his feet at the back and it's just
- 1:26been an absolute disaster. Yeah, I mean, his press
- 1:30conferences haven't been that much better as well.
- 1:32Obviously some comments turn in the heads of Celtic fans said he
- 1:37doesn't need to prove anything to anyone, which I think in
- 1:41football, especially Scottish football, a club like Celtic,
- 1:44you definitely do. And on social media, obviously
- 1:47that infamous new profile picture, if you've not seen it,
- 1:52then it's a Venn diagram of things you can control, things
- 1:55you care about, and it's what you should focus on in the
- 1:58middle. So what were your thoughts on
- 2:00all the the press conferences and media?
- 2:02To be fair, I think sometimes he gets a little bit maybe lost in
- 2:06translation. But yeah, they saying that he
- 2:09doesn't have to prove anything to anyone, to me was that was a
- 2:12major red flag because he clearly does at at the time you
- 2:17said that it was free defeats and at all it's No 4 defeats and
- 2:20at all. So he does clearly need to prove
- 2:23something and is watching every game.
- 2:25He's not shown me anything that I can get behind.
- 2:28He's not proved anything. I think his tactics are a bit.
- 2:32There's certainly question marks over them, over these tactics.
- 2:36I mean, the players don't look like they know what they're
- 2:38doing. They touched off night there
- 2:40about Callum McGregor at least four or five times.
- 2:43Again is getting pulled over to the dugout and then she's giving
- 2:46them instructions. So it looks like to me the
- 2:49players don't even know what to do.
- 2:51Another noticeable point is, and it was last night at Tani Dice,
- 2:56is he's very animated on the touchline.
- 2:59If he waves his hands about a lot and it like gives a lot of
- 3:02instructions. And I was looking at the players
- 3:05when she was doing it and not one of them, not one of the
- 3:08players were looking at them. So that to me is a major sign
- 3:12that I don't think the players believe and what he's trying to
- 3:15coach. Yeah, horrible results.
- 3:18Obviously first starting with with Hearts at Celtic Park, that
- 3:21was going to be a tough one coming straight into the role.
- 3:23I think you had one training session maybe before that, maybe
- 3:252, so you could maybe give him that.
- 3:28But then obviously the the result in the League Cup final
- 3:31most notably where Celtic for the maybe the majority game,
- 3:35fair to say were second best. Stephen Robinson obviously
- 3:37winning his first major trophy after losing 2 Celtics against 2
- 3:41finals against Celtic as as Motherwell manager.
- 3:44Were you watching that one, Aaron?
- 3:45And what did you, what have you made of his time so far?
- 3:48Yeah, I was watching. I've watched Sunday's game.
- 3:51I actually watched all four games, to be honest with you
- 3:53that he's been in charge. It's yeah, it's it's so funny to
- 3:56as a neutral to see this happen to a big team.
- 3:59And I'm so sorry to say that to you on on a podcast as well.
- 4:03It's it's well to to to Celtic and Rangers this season as well.
- 4:07I. Know yeah, it it no as a as a
- 4:09lower league supporter, you know, it's good to see the
- 4:11bigger guys, you know, being a little bit of pain, you know,
- 4:14because we've been in pain and we've had so many things happen,
- 4:16financial issues, you know, you you see it and you're keen that
- 4:19happen to them that yes, this is this is payback for domination
- 4:23and stuff like that. So it's great.
- 4:25But yeah, Sunday in particular, I think if there was one team
- 4:30Celtic did not want to face at that point was probably St.
- 4:32Mirren, just because you see what they've been like against
- 4:36Celtic this season. Very hard to beat, even though
- 4:38it's been they've won more games very, very late on.
- 4:41I think the first one was 89th minute and the other one was
- 4:4495th minute in both games. So, and you can tell what we're
- 4:48going to do. I think, you know, they are the
- 4:52people say they're a little bit of an interactive team.
- 4:54I think they played good football, to be honest.
- 4:56I think they play as good as it was you can possibly get for a
- 5:00budget they've got, yeah, and a squad size they've got.
- 5:03And I think that they were the best team on the pic.
- 5:06There was only one team that was going to win that cup.
- 5:07I think they wanted it more. I think they wanted it a lot
- 5:10more. I mean, 1st St.
- 5:12Mirren, that's I think the fifth major trophy in what is 149 year
- 5:16history, something crazy like that.
- 5:17Yeah, yeah. Whereas Kel McGregor sitting on
- 5:208 league cups just itself. So I think if you put it into
- 5:23comparison, it's obviously Celtic fans will care.
- 5:27Yeah, they said to me, yeah, exactly.
- 5:28That it'll just be another, another piece of silver, another
- 5:32like, you know, like. Yeah, I mean like.
- 5:34You're on the year on the board. Yeah, obviously Celtic fans will
- 5:37care. I think they'll care more about
- 5:38the embarrassment of the loss rather than not getting the
- 5:41silverware from Saint Mirren. That whole squad, well you know,
- 5:45Michael Mann drawn top, top scorer in the whole competition,
- 5:48He will be looked upon as a St. Mirren legend.
- 5:51And I think Stephen Robinson put it best where, you know, he said
- 5:54you won't get life changing money at Saint Mirren but you
- 5:56can be a cult hero. You can be one of these guys
- 5:59that in Paisley and across Scotland for Saint Mirren
- 6:02supporters, you will be remembered as a hero.
- 6:06Yeah, absolutely. And I think you just seen the
- 6:08scenes of celebration in Paisley.
- 6:10Just I think everybody was out. I don't even know if they were
- 6:14also. Everyone was in Vienna.
- 6:16Everybody was everywhere. Time Membership.
- 6:19Yeah, yeah. Honestly though, fair play.
- 6:22I mean, as I said already, as a lower leagues supporter,
- 6:27somebody in the lower leagues, you know, it's good to see like
- 6:30those clubs, like you're Saint Maron's, you know, Motherwell's
- 6:34as well. You know some both sides of
- 6:35clubs try and get like a you know that they're they're day in
- 6:38the sunshine even though it was a day in the freezing cold at
- 6:41Hampden Park. Yeah, and it's two cup finals in
- 6:44a row they've lost. Now, obviously I was at the the
- 6:48one before that as an Aberdeen supporter.
- 6:49What a day. That was probably the best day
- 6:51I've had as a football fan grow. Up on this podcast, right?
- 6:54Oh, at least at least 10 so far. I'm trying to get in one in
- 6:58every every episode. But no, touching back on Dundee
- 7:00United, obviously Peter Lowell resigning as a Celtic chairman.
- 7:05There was fans going around on social media of the toxicity and
- 7:10Tana Dice, you were there. How was it?
- 7:12Obviously chatting towards the board and they were, they were
- 7:15filming at one point. Yeah.
- 7:17So obviously as the teams came out the tunnel, the Green
- 7:21Brigade and Boys, who are the Altus Celtic fans group was sat
- 7:26next to kind of the directors box.
- 7:28So they had a banner seeing Scotland Shame And Midway for
- 7:32the game of about 10-15 minutes in the Sky Sports cameras panned
- 7:37to Michael Nicholson, who's another member of the Celtic
- 7:40board, and it looked like he was in dialogue with police, maybe
- 7:44pointing at a few members of these groups.
- 7:47So it's been a very toxic, it's been a toxic season to be
- 7:51honest, on and off the pitch. But I think last night, last
- 7:56night was the the final knee when a few people's coughing.
- 8:00I think because it was just, I've, I've never seen anything
- 8:03like this at Celtic in the 21 years I've supported.
- 8:07So it's just, it's a very toxic environment.
- 8:11And now there's a a clear dispute between Bald and fans.
- 8:16Yeah, obviously a lot of fans are are for the manager to be
- 8:20sacked. He's not been despite reports
- 8:24today that will be yesterday when this podcast comes out.
- 8:29Do you think he will be? Well, first of all, do you, do
- 8:32you want him to be sacked? And secondly, do you think he
- 8:34will be sacked if there's another loss against Aberdeen on
- 8:37Sunday? So first of all, yes, what?
- 8:40I want him to be sacked because as I touched on earlier, he's
- 8:43shown like nothing in full games for me to give him a reason to
- 8:49go. You know what?
- 8:50I'm going to back this guy because as as a fan, I'm
- 8:54watching us play. I don't know how we can go from
- 8:58winning seven out of eight games to losing 4 games in a row.
- 9:02It's standing in tactics. And do I think you will be
- 9:06sacked? No, because that will mean that
- 9:11the Celtic board will have to take a bit of credibility and
- 9:14admit that they got it wrong and.
- 9:16The pay off. Yep and the pay off and based on
- 9:19the track record I don't think that they have that in them.
- 9:23So I don't think he will be sacked unless if he gets beaten
- 9:27Sunday. I think he'll have no other
- 9:30options because the Sharks will be back out and I don't think
- 9:33he'll be able to walk out of Celtic Park if Aberdeen win on
- 9:37Sunday. Yeah, it's like the Russell
- 9:41Martin when he drew against Falkirk.
- 9:43I think he had to get escorted off.
- 9:44I think when it gets to that point, yeah, it's not just about
- 9:47results on the pitch, it's about what's going on off the pitch.
- 9:51As an Aberdeen fan, I think we're gonna absolutely squander
- 9:54that opportunity. I think you're gonna get an easy
- 9:553 points and. Hopefully.
- 9:59No, I think on the, I think it was the STV or podcasts, they
- 10:06had Craig Levine speaking about the situation and I think he
- 10:11said the best thing that could happen to Scottish football is
- 10:13for the Old Firm to go play in England.
- 10:15Obviously this is a rhetoric that we've heard for a long
- 10:18time, not just from Levine but from a lot of people.
- 10:22There's been offers for for leagues involving the Norwegian
- 10:26teams, Swedish teams, as well as the idea of English teams going
- 10:29in or sorry, of Scottish teams going down to England.
- 10:34From an outsider's perspective, I think it's something that will
- 10:37never actually happen. But what do you think of of
- 10:41those comments and what do you think of the idea?
- 10:45Well, I think, I think now as you said, that is interesting
- 10:49because Hearts on the top of the league, League Cup holders are
- 10:53sent Madden and Scottish Cup holders and Aberdeen.
- 10:56So maybe if you sat down and asked that question a year ago,
- 10:59you could go, yes, in terms of football on the pitch, it'd
- 11:03probably make it fairer. But a year down the line, this
- 11:07is the worst that Celtic Rangers have ever been.
- 11:10So it is making it more competitive.
- 11:12But how long are Celtic Rangers going to be this bad for?
- 11:17Historically if Celtic and Rangers are bad, they tend to
- 11:21spend to make it better, which then would fall back into the
- 11:25point of that's why they probably should move on because
- 11:30because they're bad and then they can just kind of buy it
- 11:32away. Exactly.
- 11:34I think, yeah, in January we'll see that as well because
- 11:37especially from Celtic, I mean Rangers are on on good form now
- 11:40under Danny Roll, 11 unbeaten I think, if I'm not mistaken.
- 11:44But with Celtic with all that money in the bank, you've got to
- 11:47feel that they need to spend, especially the board to at least
- 11:51save their arses if nothing else.
- 11:54And I think that's where the real issue lies.
- 11:55I mean, if there was a level playing field or even A at least
- 12:02a bit better of a playing field where budgets are not too
- 12:06extremely different than we could maybe talk about a
- 12:08situation where, you know, as I said, that I've heard from
- 12:11English media, Oh, is this the downfall of Celtic?
- 12:13And I'm like, no, no, they'll be back next season with with 20
- 12:16million spent and St. Ern will have got free agents in
- 12:18the summer. I mean I think it's just because
- 12:20of the vast different and not just fan base and ticket sales,
- 12:24but revenue in clubs where even if you have a bad season isn't,
- 12:29it's still going to be dominance for forever.
- 12:34But Celtic, so I know you're talking about money, Celtic only
- 12:37stuck in a dilemma of the back, Wilfred, Nancy in January and
- 12:43get the players in to shoot a 343 system.
- 12:47So that will be wing backs and attacking midfielders.
- 12:51You back them get the players in and then five months down the
- 12:55line you sack them and then a new manager's left to come clean
- 13:00up his mess a bit like what Rangers is in Danny Rose kinda
- 13:03walking with the mess of Russell Martin and and Kevin farewell.
- 13:08So Celtic and lay in that position of the cut ties with
- 13:12them and back from the ocean. January of the double down and
- 13:15back of Fid Nancy and run the risk that it might not get
- 13:18better and then 345 months down the line you have to shack them
- 13:22and the new manager's left with his signings I think.
- 13:25Well. There's a bit.
- 13:26There's a bit that reminds me just just when you said that
- 13:29about a few years ago when Sean Maloney was the Hibs manager,
- 13:33If. You were I.
- 13:33Can't remember. He replaced that was Paul
- 13:35Higginbottom. I think he released at the time
- 13:38and he spent some money in January and you know, they were
- 13:41saying we're going to back him. We're going to back him for this
- 13:42long and we're going to, you know, he's going to be here for,
- 13:45you know, gears years in the very common.
- 13:48Nobody lasts years anymore. But yeah, they they spent some
- 13:52money, not a lot, but you know, they still got a few good
- 13:54players in the into the dressing room.
- 13:57And by the time they lost the the Scottish Cup semi final to
- 14:01Hearts, he was out the door and that was what, four or five
- 14:04months later. So, you know, it's an
- 14:05interesting point what you're seeing there, and I think it's a
- 14:08risk both ways. You've got to look at both
- 14:10because you think you don't want to double down on like sack of
- 14:13the manager so soon. But then if it doesn't work out,
- 14:16how long you know, how long do you?
- 14:19It is, yeah. It's such an awkward time
- 14:22because because even if you do sack Nancy right now or after,
- 14:27I'd say after the Aberdeen game, that's the 27th of December,
- 14:30then January transfer window opens, 1st of January.
- 14:33You've probably got who Martin as interim.
- 14:35Do you give him it to the end of the season or do you try and
- 14:38identify a manager that you want long term?
- 14:41I mean, that's obviously Martin being a certain style of
- 14:46football, but it's more common, it's more direct, it's played by
- 14:50more managers than the 343 or whatever 352.
- 14:56So yeah, like you said, it's a bit of a sticky situation where?
- 15:02And Martin O'Neill would notice how the players would want to
- 15:05play, yeah. You know, because he knows the
- 15:07club. Exactly.
- 15:08And but also looking at the squad of players, I mean last
- 15:11night in particular, you put Ralston on the right side of a
- 15:14three or you know, Tierney as well.
- 15:15I mean Tierney can play that. There's we've seen that in
- 15:17Scotland for Scotland, we've seen it for Celtic a few times.
- 15:20I think he's done it for real. So she died a couple of times as
- 15:23well when he was there. So you could do that.
- 15:24Ralston's not somebody that should put him in in the.
- 15:27Same. I don't, I don't rate Ralston at
- 15:29all, whether it be for Celtic or Scotland.
- 15:31We've we've had this discussion before and I think I hate
- 15:34singling them out, I really do, because I don't, I want to like
- 15:37the guy, but there's just something about him.
- 15:39I mean, but I think we said this before the Greece game.
- 15:42I've just watched him the whole time.
- 15:44And. He was like, yeah, my eyes were
- 15:47glued to. Him, I go back to Switzerland
- 15:49game when I was there, but no, I think I think you touched on it
- 15:52there where O'Neill would know how the players want to play
- 15:54because he gets Scottish football.
- 15:56And I think, yeah, it's clear to see that Nancy doesn't get it
- 16:00because I think that quote came out.
- 16:03I don't know if it was yesterday after that I think it was, yeah.
- 16:05I think it was his match reaction where he was questioned
- 16:09on if he does know Scottish football and has response was
- 16:13that he doesn't know Scottish football because he almost
- 16:16signed for Carlisle, Yeah. I think he's been taking a bit
- 16:19of a context, I think. I think, well go on, give me the
- 16:21context then I. Think he's mean in British
- 16:23football more than anything British.
- 16:25English football is so different than Scottish.
- 16:27Football I know, but I think what he said was I almost signed
- 16:30for Carlisle United. I know who you know that was.
- 16:34Then it was like stopped. I know a little bit about
- 16:36Scottish football. I mean I.
- 16:37Don't know it's it's not a good look.
- 16:40It's still not a good look, but I kind of get what he's trying
- 16:42to say about it. But it's like when you said I.
- 16:45But what does he mean by British football?
- 16:48What does he mean by British football?
- 16:49Does he mean Manchester Cities football?
- 16:51Or does he mean Burnley's football like?
- 16:54Yeah, it it, but it's a hypothetical thing because he
- 16:56said. I know a bit, you know, it's
- 16:58like me saying I know a little bit about the MLS because I was
- 17:00in Florida for three weeks. I mean that at.
- 17:04Least that's in America. Exactly.
- 17:08But it's just so it's it was just a comment that didn't need
- 17:11to be made. He could have said you could
- 17:13have just said yes or no. And.
- 17:14That he's not helping himself. Yeah, he would.
- 17:16Have made more of a deal than that.
- 17:19Yeah, it's been a whirlwind. I think can move on to to
- 17:24massive scores in the lower league, one that Aaron, you'll
- 17:27have greatly enjoyed watching. I think you were there as well.
- 17:30Race Rovers beating Ross County 6 nil.
- 17:34I know, I know, you messaged me saying it's the biggest league
- 17:37win. Since when?
- 17:38When was that? 1992 was it was opening game
- 17:411927 nil win against St. Mirren.
- 17:44St. Mirren got relegated the season
- 17:45before from the Premiership and so they were the favourites and
- 17:49there's a good clip on YouTube. Ross Keitney the favourites this
- 17:52season as well. Exactly.
- 17:53Yeah, there's a good clip on YouTube just to plug it in.
- 17:56There's somebody's filmed it from, if you know, Star Spark
- 17:59you, there's the main stand which is like the L-shaped stand
- 18:02that you see on the TV and somebody's filmed the goals from
- 18:05there. And there's a brilliant goal
- 18:07scored by Ronnie Coyle who used to play as a centre back and he
- 18:11was a Celtic youth player and he was, he's been around the blocks
- 18:14and he's was a centre back and I think he scored the 6th or the
- 18:177th and he's literally took it from, I think he took it for a
- 18:21run to like 70 yards. He's managed to score from
- 18:24there. So yeah, my dad said to me,
- 18:27because I was with my dad on Saturdays, like minds me the
- 18:29good old days, I was like, that's only one day.
- 18:31Yeah, exactly it was. Just yeah.
- 18:35It was I was kind of, I had the fear because Rath Rovers do
- 18:40historically with somebody's in a bad run, Rath Rovers normally
- 18:43on the team now that that. Give them the win.
- 18:46Yeah, that's what happened to the.
- 18:48Season. That's Aberdeen.
- 18:50Yeah, hopefully, yeah. But we played county in the
- 18:54season. Exactly the same thing happened.
- 18:56No, they were on a bad run. Yeah, they're.
- 18:58Losing run, they're winning on the streak and then they we were
- 19:01the first team to lose against them at the end of the season.
- 19:04You lost in the playoffs to them as well, right?
- 19:05Exactly. Yeah, about revenge for them so
- 19:08but. But yeah, you got Tony Docherty
- 19:10sacked. Well done.
- 19:12That's that's them. Got rid of Don Kelly, Tony
- 19:15Docherty. And I think that the, I don't
- 19:19know who it was, maybe the chairman of Ross County saying
- 19:20they've had so many applicants to the job and I've that.
- 19:24Earlier, they've got 80 candidates.
- 19:26Sorry, 80. People.
- 19:26Oh, that was it. Yeah.
- 19:27And I bet one of them is Stuart Kettlewell, I'm telling you.
- 19:30Derrick Adams because he's. All.
- 19:33No, yeah, Stuart Kettlewell got sacked of Kilmarnock there from
- 19:36Kilmarnock after their two one loss to Aberdeen.
- 19:41What a turn around. Definitely deserved it.
- 19:43With the second-half we could have scored about four or five.
- 19:46I think they had about 3 cleared off a line that puts Aberdeen
- 19:50top of the form table actually in the Premiership.
- 19:52Seven wins, 2 draws and one loss.
- 19:55And obviously Kilmarnock were on that 10 or 11 game winless run
- 20:01where it couldn't go on like that.
- 20:04And then touching on Inverness, 9 nil win against Dunbar and I
- 20:08think it was 7 nil halftime. I mean, crazy Alfie Babbage,
- 20:12Aberdeen Loney scored four inside 37 minutes.
- 20:16I don't know if that's the quickest or the quickest.
- 20:18Someone scored four goals or something like that.
- 20:20That is crazy. Biggest one in their history.
- 20:24And yeah, crazy, crazy. Couple of scores there it.
- 20:27Was good because there was a bet there was because I've got the
- 20:29tweet here. So the Dunbar and twerk page.
- 20:33I'm still saying twerk. I'm not saying X.
- 20:36Yeah, old school fair. So.
- 20:37So. 37 minutes. Goal for inveness.
- 20:40Babbage sons No. Kali 6.
- 20:44Somebody's replied to them. Azman, go home, please.
- 20:46You went. I can't.
- 20:47I've got a job to do. Yeah, long night, long night for
- 20:50him. Exactly.
- 20:51I feel so sorry for that, for that, for that admin.
- 20:55But yeah, it was such a crazy game.
- 20:57I did, you know, it's one of those games that kind of expect
- 21:00that was going to happen. I didn't think was going to be.
- 21:02Yeah, because obviously Inverness top of top of League 1
- 21:06despite A5 point deduction and they're just absolutely walk in
- 21:09the league. Yeah, I think Babbage is such a
- 21:11good player as well and it didn't work out for me.
- 21:13United and you know, it was kind of questioning why I didn't
- 21:16because I thought he would fit the championship he's gone to.
- 21:20Let's go to see County. That's not a good sign.
- 21:24He's going to Cali. He's going to Cali and I think
- 21:26there is that family connection up there because I think his dad
- 21:29played for Cali, didn't he? Or somebody's family played for
- 21:32Cali. So there's that family
- 21:33connection there, which is good for him.
- 21:36I'd be interested to see what happens to him in January.
- 21:39I don't know if they've got a recall clause, but it's whether
- 21:42he would stay at Cali or he would really go up to the
- 21:44championship. So be interested to see what
- 21:47happens to him. He's more than capable of
- 21:49playing in the Championship, so you know, be interested to see
- 21:52what happens, but good for him to get the four.
- 21:54Yeah, I was. I was going to say that a United
- 21:57could really do with Alfie Babbage this season.
- 22:01So I don't know if you're aware, but I commentate on the United
- 22:04home games. Yeah.
- 22:06And like, we do everything right except score.
- 22:10So I think Babbage would be a good sign indefinitely.
- 22:15Get talking to Scott Brown, then.
- 22:17Yeah, yeah, get any easier, get any easier.
- 22:20But yeah, boss county. I mean, where do you where do
- 22:26you start? Terrible, terrible season.
- 22:29Obviously, as you touched on Finn bookies favourites to to
- 22:32vault the leak. I think they just threw the
- 22:35kitchen sink at it, but prime example of that from the kitchen
- 22:41sink at it always doesn't doesn't pay off.
- 22:45Certainly not paid off for the Staggies this season.
- 22:47When? You look at their squad as well
- 22:48and looking at Saturday's squad as well, because I've got the
- 22:51team sheet here and there's still good players in that team
- 22:54because they've still got, you know, they've got Jordan White,
- 22:57they've got Ronan Hale, they've got Jay Henderson, you know,
- 22:59they've got Jamie Lindsay, you know, they've got good player,
- 23:03they've got Trevor Carson who's a decent enough keeper for
- 23:05champions level. But it's just not clicking.
- 23:07And I mean. If you, if you look at the type
- 23:09of players they had two years ago as well, Jan Danda, Simon
- 23:12Murray, I mean, they were a brilliant, brilliant squad and I
- 23:16don't think. That's how we didn't get
- 23:18promoted because. Yeah, that's why.
- 23:20No, because those two in particular just were so good
- 23:23against us in. That and I don't know if they
- 23:24can afford to get relegated to League One either.
- 23:27I mean, they've got, they'll have a massive wage bill.
- 23:30I imagine that they're going to prove.
- 23:32I mean, it's hard. We don't know what's going to
- 23:33happen. Yeah, Yeah, January, Yeah.
- 23:35I imagine because they need to appoint the manager and they
- 23:37need to throw as much to the money manager as possible, and
- 23:40no doubt they will because they've got the money available.
- 23:43Because McGregor back to his managers, there's one thing that
- 23:46you can't criticize him for. Yeah.
- 23:49Yeah. So but I would just want to know
- 23:51who would get that job though, because it's such it's becoming
- 23:55a lot bit yeah chalice now though, because Kyrie.
- 23:57And. We had Ramsey on this podcast.
- 23:59I was with them on there, and you said that, yeah, it was time
- 24:01for him to go. His favorite was Tony Dockerty
- 24:04to come in. I thought the same.
- 24:05I thought you should have. Who did they appoint?
- 24:07His assistant manager. So where they appointed the
- 24:08assistant? Yeah.
- 24:09Yeah, So they had like 2 actual managers they had, they had John
- 24:12Robertson. That was it.
- 24:13Yeah, they. Had so they they they had
- 24:16they've got 3 managers, 3 managers who capable of managing
- 24:19the championship all. And they're all gone.
- 24:21I. Was thinking, let's just say
- 24:24that on I think they've got too many cooks in terms of
- 24:27management, in terms of there's too many voices.
- 24:30You need the hierarchy exactly where there's a clear boss.
- 24:33But no. I think touching back on on
- 24:36Alfie Babbage as well. It's so good to to finally see
- 24:40real promising attackers coming through.
- 24:42Hopefully. Fingers crossed obviously,
- 24:46because for so long it's been, you know, Scotland are a great
- 24:48team, but they don't have a striker.
- 24:50Scotland are a great team, but they can't score the goals.
- 24:52So hopefully in the next couple of years, you can kind of see
- 24:55those players like Alfie Bavage, Kieran Bowie, Tommy Conway,
- 24:59Emilio Lawrence, a Man City, you know, these kind of really
- 25:04attacking players, Harvey Barnes, which we can we can
- 25:07touch on as well where Harvey Barnes obvious isn't coming
- 25:10through it, but others are where you can you can bring that kind
- 25:13of attacking flair if you want to use that word, where we've
- 25:17kind of been really well, really good defensively.
- 25:21We've got arguably probably the best midfield in the world
- 25:23outside the top eight nations, but at the top end of the pitch
- 25:28we've kind of like that. Yeah, certainly.
- 25:31I think looking at the forward areas in particular, like the
- 25:35younger players as well, like you were saying about Babbage,
- 25:38and obviously it's far too early, but I'm.
- 25:40But you look at Conway, we know what he's capable of.
- 25:42You know what Bolton Valley is capable of.
- 25:45And obviously I'm a big boy fan because he's no local connection
- 25:48and stuff. So I.
- 25:49Will throw is yeah, yeah. Well, he's a crocodia boy as
- 25:51well, so you know. Yeah, we'll always be on, always
- 25:54back, not always back. Our local boys to pay that won't
- 25:57back. You know, Ollie Burke, one of
- 25:59ours as Wells, you know, he's a Kakodi boy even though he's got
- 26:03the nut in the Maccent. And so, you know, they could
- 26:07have the cubation out of those two Kirkcaldy boys in the in the
- 26:09Scotland scored for the World Cup.
- 26:11Who knows. But certainly the young players
- 26:13coming through, I like the look of me or Lawrence.
- 26:16I think he's got. Something.
- 26:17He looks really good. Yeah.
- 26:20And who's, I don't know how to pronounce it.
- 26:21Who's the boy that went from Sheffield Wednesday to Man City?
- 26:23Oh, got a Mccamer. I don't, Yeah.
- 26:28I've got a lisp that's not. The the son of Danny, right?
- 26:31Danny, yeah, he used to play for Dundee United.
- 26:34Yeah, and I'm not going to try and pronounce his surname Never.
- 26:36I've never been able to. But that's how he's eligible for
- 26:39Scotland because he was, he was living in Cooper when he was
- 26:41playing for Dundee United and. Yeah, so he's his son is 15 or
- 26:46maybe 16 now and he was playing under 19 level for Scotland and
- 26:51scored a hat trick. So he's went for over £1,000,000
- 26:56to Man City now his. Dad said.
- 26:58Because if there's people on Twitter saying things like.
- 27:01Yeah, I was going to touch on that.
- 27:03Yeah, yeah. Soon as England comes calling,
- 27:04he'll go to them and you know, it's like the Elliott Anderson
- 27:07situation, like he's in hacked. He's done as well a little bit.
- 27:11And Harry Gray and Archie Gray and the rest of them, yeah.
- 27:15Traitors, if you like to call them.
- 27:16Yeah, but his dad pretty much says on Twitter like he wants to
- 27:21play for Scotland or Jamaica. Yeah, his reply was I don't know
- 27:24if it was in our comments or someone elses comments where
- 27:27yeah, someone said. Tagged into it, yeah.
- 27:28Yeah. So someone said he'll switch
- 27:30thing on as soon as they come call and then he replied they
- 27:33already did and he said no. So hopefully that's one to
- 27:37watch. I think he feels Scottish.
- 27:38He is Scottish. And he definitely wants to play
- 27:40for Scotland or Jamaica. It's one of the two.
- 27:42And he said he wants to give Scotland because he was born
- 27:45there, his. First priority His.
- 27:46Priority. But who knows?
- 27:47It's one of those that might yeah, you know, you can't.
- 27:51You want to throw good things at young players, but you don't
- 27:53want to throw too much of them at the such an early stage
- 27:55because. Caramel code, then Billy coming
- 27:57to mind, Yeah. You know, you've got such a, you
- 28:01know, the highest prospects and this is the game.
- 28:02Just let them. Just let them develop, you know
- 28:04what I mean? Exactly.
- 28:05Yeah, let them, let them develop to their to their full
- 28:07potential. And then once, once they're
- 28:10ready, it could be a time when. Yeah, I mean, we can we can
- 28:13focus on the World Cup next summer rather than, you know,
- 28:18let them develop and maybe come 2028 when we've got three games
- 28:22at Hamden, at least for the EUR, we can talk about them and wild
- 28:25cards for their. There's been a lot of talk for
- 28:29Harvey Barnes in the last couple of days.
- 28:32Steve Clark did an interview where he's a they both got each
- 28:34other's numbers and that Clark will reportedly reach out to him
- 28:40after the new year. He also said that he's he's kind
- 28:42of confirmed that he's going to take a 26 man squads.
- 28:47Obviously we saw something similar for year 2020 where Chay
- 28:49Adams came in kind of not last minute but pretty late on.
- 28:54Do you think well would you have asked us about 3 podcasts in a
- 28:57row to different people Now would you take Calvary Barnes
- 29:01and what a great from my, in my opinion, what a great addition
- 29:04need be to the squad. Yes, I think MD that wouldn't
- 29:10take Calvary Barnes, I think is silly.
- 29:12Yeah, I get I. Get.
- 29:14Yeah, I get the point that the players who've got you there
- 29:18like deserve to be on the plane. But like, say, for instance, if
- 29:23you swap him for a a Conor Baron, you're not going to
- 29:26you're not going to be missing out.
- 29:28You know what I mean? Conor Baron, I don't he's not
- 29:31even he's been even played in like the last two camps.
- 29:34So albeit he's been on the bench to get you there, but he's not
- 29:39like you're not going to miss out on what he brings, albeit is
- 29:42a good player. So I think that and as well with
- 29:46the World Cup qualifying as in the past, we're now at the
- 29:50tournament. Surely you'd you'd want the best
- 29:53for at the tournament and not what's best for the previous
- 29:57qualifiers. But I think it'd be a great
- 29:59addition plus Scotland to have one winger, Ben Ganondoke, who
- 30:04is probably going to be 5050. And even if he does go, how much
- 30:09football is he going to play before the actual World Cup?
- 30:12Whereas Harvey Barnes is has been starting we can recount
- 30:16from Newcastle. I think if you get enough of
- 30:18these wingers and it allows you to, to switch system within
- 30:22games, which is something that we've kind of struggled with.
- 30:24Obviously we'll play 4 at the back now before, you know, in
- 30:28the kind of EUR 2020 qualifiers played five at the back.
- 30:30But that's the only two systems we've really seen on the State
- 30:32Park. And you kind of need that if
- 30:36you're wanting to to attack the game, you're you're trailing and
- 30:39you need a goal if you want to be able to switch to that kind
- 30:42of attack in formation. Obviously Ben Ganondoke against
- 30:45Denmark in the 1st 20 minutes or so before he got injured was I
- 30:49think his best game I've seen. I think he was absolutely
- 30:51electric. Yeah, exactly.
- 30:53Yeah, I think he was the best player in the park.
- 30:55Yeah, Dorgie couldn't get anywhere near.
- 30:57Him that's yeah and that's two world class field backs.
- 30:59He'd done that to Dorgu and Fardeal in the Nations League.
- 31:04So I think he's obviously you know the main priority for
- 31:07winger, but if you can get someone like Harvey Barnes and
- 31:12which allows you to play 2 wingers, that's a big, big plus.
- 31:16I. Think the one thing as well
- 31:17about people will say why would he?
- 31:20Because he's not committed, but he's not saying no, you know
- 31:22what I mean? He's not because he's had the
- 31:24opportunity to be on TV a couple of times.
- 31:26Remember, I think he was on TV a few weeks ago after the Man City
- 31:29game, I think it was. And it was also straight after
- 31:32we qualified. Exactly.
- 31:33And, you know, I think who was it that was saying that, you
- 31:36know, joking with the Micah Richard?
- 31:38I think it was, was joking with them.
- 31:39He was saying. Like Mick Barnes, Scotland World
- 31:42Cup, No, he could have said there and no, no, no, no, no,
- 31:45I'm not that's that's no, but he's never ruled it out.
- 31:48So you want to you've got unless he actually comes out and says
- 31:51no, you've got to still keep him under consideration.
- 31:54I've always considered him under, you know, for
- 31:57possibilities until you actually get the no or until he gets his,
- 32:01you know, full allocated caps. So coming behind me as.
- 32:05Yeah. I know he's been capped once for
- 32:07England but I was a friendly so he's still.
- 32:09Capable. To play for us and it would have
- 32:12been the same for Tina. Left me until until he got
- 32:16capped. I was going to say, I think,
- 32:18yeah, I feel like this is the first one where it feels like it
- 32:21is going to happen because obviously there's been there's
- 32:23been rumours of like there was God, there was Gerald Kwanza
- 32:27before he played for England, Tina Liverman, So Chris Brady,
- 32:30the goalkeeper, Chicago Fire, Archie Gray, obviously Elliot
- 32:36Anderson, Hayden Hackney, so many.
- 32:39But I think so. There's still some that you
- 32:41think that might happen, I think, yeah, I think one of
- 32:44those ones, as long as long as he's at middle, yeah, I think
- 32:47he's. You've got to cook though,
- 32:48because he's not going to get in that England squad anytime soon.
- 32:51Yeah, but I think this one, this one feels like it's going to
- 32:53happen and speak. Speaking of friendlies, there
- 32:56have been a lot of news on the Scotland friendlies in
- 33:00preparation for the World Cup. So this these are not confirmed
- 33:04officially, but it seems like we're going to be playing Japan
- 33:07at sometime in March. They've got a game against
- 33:10England at Wembley, the 31st I believe that is 30 first.
- 33:14Yeah, I think that is, yeah. So they're really doing Auk tour
- 33:18and they've chosen Scotland as their second opponent.
- 33:20Obviously they're preparing to face, I think it's two European
- 33:22nations in their group. We've got Kuruko and a send off
- 33:26game at Hamden on I think 6th or 7th of June.
- 33:31We've got an African side reportedly at either Saint James
- 33:33Park, which would be the perfect location for Harvey Barnes debut
- 33:37or Everton's new ground. So that's the African side that
- 33:42obviously Steve Clarke said he wanted to face a nation from
- 33:44each confederation that we're going to be playing at the World
- 33:46Cup and the South American team that we're heavily rumoured to
- 33:50be facing as Argentina. So yeah, that would probably be
- 33:54the other March friendly. Yeah, I.
- 33:55Think there's there's a friendly going to be held in Florida.
- 33:59They want me because I was reading.
- 34:00Yeah, I read that. Yeah, you want to get to, they
- 34:03want to have a, a. Warm waiter.
- 34:05Yeah, and I think Argentina want.
- 34:07Yeah, acclimatized. Yeah.
- 34:08So, and it's a good reason for us.
- 34:10I mean, I know somebody was criticizing why they should, why
- 34:14Steve Clark needs to play the friendlies.
- 34:16The fact is you've got to play these friendlies.
- 34:18It's, you know, it's if you weren't in the World Cup, you
- 34:20need to play 10 games minimum during a, you know, the course
- 34:22of a calendar year. So the friendlies have to count
- 34:25it. So that one against Curacao at
- 34:28hand and one have a funny feeling.
- 34:32Nothing's been confirmed, no rumours, but if that Argentina
- 34:34is going to happen, it's going to be in Florida.
- 34:37But it's one of those that is it's a good, it's a good one to
- 34:41have. If you can play against like the
- 34:45bigger nations, I think it's good as well.
- 34:46We're not playing anybody from Europe as well.
- 34:48I think that was one thing, Clark.
- 34:50Said as. Well, yeah.
- 34:51But we've played enough different teams.
- 34:52Yeah, we've played enough. That's that's what the World
- 34:54Cup's all about. We've waited long enough.
- 34:56We've waited long enough that we don't play.
- 34:57We don't want to play any more European teams.
- 35:01Obviously last time out before year 2024, I think it was the
- 35:05Netherlands that we played. I remember, I remember Lawrence
- 35:09Shanklin started that one. That was the main debate if
- 35:11Shanklin would start up front and then the send off game was
- 35:15Finland. I think it was Finland.
- 35:18So yeah, it's good to play some teams that we've we've never
- 35:21played and some teams that we've not played in in a long, long
- 35:25time. Obviously that was different
- 35:26scenario because that was European champions.
- 35:27Yeah, obviously you had. To play, I think it was the
- 35:30right thing to do that time. But no, no, I'm just, yeah,
- 35:33certainly playing. I'm just saying it'll be
- 35:34definitely nice to because because with a lot of teams you
- 35:37don't with a lot of these teams that are not European, you don't
- 35:40actually know what to expect. Yeah.
- 35:41I mean, I think it was Ecuador that were in Part 2 or Part 3,
- 35:46Part 2, where I think they're arguably one of the dark horses
- 35:51for the tournament. They've got one of the best
- 35:53defenses in the world, really good midfield, really good
- 35:57attack. I mean, they're one of the dark
- 35:59horses. But going into those games, you
- 36:01don't really know what to expect because obviously a lot of
- 36:04people aren't included up on South American football or
- 36:07African football. So yeah, it'll be good to play
- 36:10those games. And if we can get that game,
- 36:14that St. James's Park, that will be a
- 36:16good away there I think. Know that Dan, who's in our
- 36:18group chat for Football Park Scotland, You know he's one of
- 36:22our admins as well. No, he's from Newcastle.
- 36:24You know he's 10 minutes away. He's.
- 36:25About 10 minutes away from from Newcastle.
- 36:27So as soon as he heard when did the news break?
- 36:30I think it was Monday it broke could.
- 36:31That be. Doing it his eyes immediate
- 36:33love. He doesn't respond.
- 36:34I mean our chat if you if you can get to if you can get to
- 36:37Scotland Supporters Club points for for that away day.
- 36:40Yeah. Oh, I will be.
- 36:41I will be there. It's it's such a good place to
- 36:44play a game of football, though, somewhere different, you know, I
- 36:47mean, and people are saying why are we doing that?
- 36:48It's like, well, first of all, I don't think they want to play
- 36:50two games at Hampden. No, Yeah, you need, you need the
- 36:53neutral venue friendly. Yeah, I think, I think you don't
- 36:56want to fly them mid season to Africa for let's say we're going
- 37:01to be playing South Africa. We don't know who we're playing
- 37:03yet. So let's say we're playing South
- 37:05Africa. We don't want to fire in the
- 37:06gate town. So let's put them as neutral as
- 37:09possible. I know we could probably have
- 37:12flown them to France or somewhere like that, you know, a
- 37:14little bit for a journey for both places.
- 37:16For us it's like a 2 hour bus journey down the road.
- 37:18So it's a whole lot different compared to that for them.
- 37:21But you know, I think it's a good certainly going to
- 37:24Newcastle is it's only it's not that far.
- 37:26It's the 25 LB train to get. To Newcastle.
- 37:29From Edinburgh, so you know, it's quite good that we've got
- 37:31this in at stake. I think it is good in Newcastle.
- 37:34Every paper said it is going to be in Newcastle and but
- 37:39Liverpool is still in contention.
- 37:41Personally, I'd I'd like the whole Dickinson just purely for
- 37:45the fact I think the new stadium is like an absolute not saying
- 37:50not saying St. James's a bad stadium, great
- 37:54stadium right in the heart of the city.
- 37:56But I just, I just love to try the the Hill Dickinson Stadium,
- 38:00but probably far in a way the ancient James's would just just
- 38:06slightly edge it. Yeah, it feels more appropriate
- 38:09for Scotland. For some it was like fairly pubs
- 38:12within a 5 minute walk of the stadium as soon as.
- 38:14You get off the the train. Station.
- 38:16Yeah, literally not that far away.
- 38:17From the stadium. It's like 5-10 minute walks,
- 38:19it's literally a dream. But I've never been to
- 38:21Liverpool, so I wouldn't have. A clue I've got some some family
- 38:25down in England that are Everton fan, so I'd get some yeah, I'll,
- 38:29I'll take them if it's if it's Liverpool, but yeah, exactly.
- 38:33No, but I I hope it's St. James's because I think that
- 38:37it's renowned for having an amazing atmosphere and I think
- 38:40that's a lot to do with the stadium and I think pairing that
- 38:43with Scotland fans, that would be some atmosphere.
- 38:46Thank you everyone point even if it is a friendly.
- 38:48Yeah, I think people are saying why are we doing this a friendly
- 38:51in England. My simple question is why not?
- 38:53We've done. It, I mean, we played, we played
- 38:55Brazil. What was it?
- 38:56Wembley, right? Yeah.
- 38:58Emirates, Emirates, that was it, That was it.
- 39:00Played Nigeria at Craven Cottage and yeah, no, the Emirates at
- 39:04the time was Brazil's neutral ground and I don't know why we
- 39:07played Nigeria. OK, I can't remember, but I
- 39:10think it might have been for the World Cup and that was like a
- 39:12stop off place for them if I remember greatly because.
- 39:14They yeah for. Brazil, I think we're 2014 that
- 39:18we played them. So I think there was a stopover
- 39:20point more than anything. But we've no, we've played them,
- 39:22we've played a few teams, you know, at a neutral ground
- 39:25elsewhere. So why not go to Newcastle?
- 39:27Why not go to Liverpool to play this against an African team?
- 39:31It'll be interesting to see which African team it's going to
- 39:33be. I've got a sneaky feeling it
- 39:35will be someone like Cameron who are a really good side, but
- 39:38they've not qualified for the World Cup.
- 39:39Yeah, so. I think I've seen rumors of
- 39:42Senegal. I'm not sure if that's true, but
- 39:45I'm sure that sure I read that my only.
- 39:49Players, like many teams, as close.
- 39:51To as possible you know as. Close to, yeah.
- 39:53I mean, like you don't, you don't want to be playing like a
- 39:56Botswana or something like that where they're nowhere near the
- 39:59level of Morocco. I think it's to get a sense of
- 40:02what the football would be like against an opposition from that
- 40:05region of that same strength. So I don't know who would.
- 40:09I mean, Morocco I think is probably the best African
- 40:11nation. Full stop.
- 40:14So I don't know who would get close to yeah.
- 40:16Afghan start, yeah. And that's what I was going to
- 40:18say. It's like if nobody's aware of
- 40:20it, it's starting on Sunday. So it's a good preparation for
- 40:22us to see what. We're going to be doing hate
- 40:24watch. Yeah, hate watch.
- 40:26Hopefully they go into the worst run of form I've all done.
- 40:29Yeah, can. We get a hate watch in Brazil as
- 40:31well somehow. Just like who do they play?
- 40:35Haiti hate watch. Yeah.
- 40:41I think it'd be good to see Morocco action though,
- 40:43especially because if you're not used to seeing these national
- 40:45teams because. We're not, yeah.
- 40:46I've not watched them since, since the last World Cup,
- 40:48obviously. That's.
- 40:49What I was going to say about Japan, like we've not seen them.
- 40:52Certainly I've, you know, seen the results, but you don't see
- 40:54them in action, you know. I've not watched a single Japan
- 40:58game since they lost to Belgium, I think.
- 41:00Yeah, I think. Oh no, no.
- 41:01When last World Cup, when they did that?
- 41:04Yeah, I think I've seen one of their their qualifiers.
- 41:07I can't remember who was against.
- 41:08I think it was Australia. I can't remember, but certainly
- 41:12it's good to see these teams in action before you play.
- 41:15And I think that's one good thing about Afghan for us is
- 41:17that we've got you know, we could have been drawn with them
- 41:21Croatia from Bot 2 and obviously we don't have we knew all about
- 41:23them, whereas now we've got an African team who is one of the
- 41:26best to that see them in action. Let's see if other teams can
- 41:30into the weaknesses and we can probably try and exploit it as
- 41:32much as like. I'm sure Steve Clark will be
- 41:35watching them. Yeah.
- 41:37Yeah. I don't think you'll be going.
- 41:40Yeah. No, no, I know.
- 41:41Are you heading off to the to the US Nile?
- 41:43Yes, I'm only going for the first two games IET in Morocco,
- 41:50so I'm doing 10 nights in Boston, flying out on Thursday,
- 41:56Thursday the 11th of June, which is day nice to meet kicks off,
- 41:59and then I'm back on this Sunday the 21st, which is two days
- 42:05after the Morocco game show. Nice.
- 42:08Should be good, hopefully. I need to check check with what
- 42:11you're on because I'm flying out from on the 11th as well.
- 42:13Oh nice, nice Dublin, Dublin direct.
- 42:17I just hopefully I can get a ticket and I've swallowed my
- 42:24parade and accepted that I'm going to be paying silly money
- 42:27for a ticket, but I've done. I just don't want to go.
- 42:31I'll be over there and not go so.
- 42:33And they're charging for fan zones now.
- 42:35Yeah, I've seen that. Twelve, $2.50.
- 42:38Yeah. So it's going to be an ideal
- 42:41one, but hopefully it's a memorable one.
- 42:43Be interested to. See what happens like because
- 42:46obviously we've got a culture of like drinking outside the pubs
- 42:49and stuff. Yeah, and we.
- 42:50Call America actually doing stuff.
- 42:52Like that, you know? Yeah.
- 42:53So actually sitting watching the TV, watching the football
- 42:56outside. We did that in Germany.
- 42:57If you can, you get down hands on.
- 42:59Go to Germany was Germany was best two weeks of my life yeah,
- 43:03apart. From the football.
- 43:06Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. I always say when I when I go
- 43:08with Scotland it's it's it's such a great holiday apart from
- 43:11the football. That's what I said when I went
- 43:12to Athens for the Aberdeen game as well.
- 43:14Landon Donovan said on him Fox Sports, because they're the main
- 43:19broadcasters for America for the World Cup.
- 43:22He he was saying if you want to see anybody in action, go and
- 43:26see a Scotland game because just for the fans, because, you know,
- 43:30he commentated for Fox on the opener and you said he didn't
- 43:34care about the football, you cared about the fans inside.
- 43:36And it was just the atmosphere and we could have outnumbered
- 43:39those German supporters that. Day Oh my God the price of those
- 43:44tickets though, because I I got the Switzerland and hungry
- 43:47tickets to supporters club and they were extortionate as as and
- 43:52then for the Germany game it came around then I got the
- 43:54opportunity to buy it for 400 each is.
- 43:58That not for your dad's was it? Did you not want to surprise
- 44:02your? Dad, I want, yeah, so I was in
- 44:03the Germany game with my dad. Well, originally I was just
- 44:06going with my mates, but we'd gambled on flights, so we were
- 44:09flying in on the 15th. So the only game of the whole
- 44:12tournament, the only game of the whole tournament we were going
- 44:15to miss was the Germany opening game.
- 44:18And we're like, yeah, so one in 12 chance or whatever it was,
- 44:21one in eight chance. And obviously be in Scotland, we
- 44:23get the opening game and then I booked flights, a second pair of
- 44:27flights with my dad to go to the Germany game of him and then
- 44:31spent £900 on 2 tickets to see us get absolutely humped I
- 44:36imagine. He wanted to disown you after.
- 44:39That. I paid.
- 44:42I paid for the ticket. So do you.
- 44:43Ever know about the prices? Could I just say.
- 44:46That yeah, about a year a year later, he.
- 44:48Doesn't know you if you're listening to the podcast.
- 44:51He does. He does.
- 44:52He does. Yeah, it's a good of a culture
- 44:53shock time. It's like a heart attack.
- 44:55What? No, but it was a great
- 44:58atmosphere and obviously I'll never forget that.
- 45:00I'm glad we don't have the opening game this tournament.
- 45:03I'm there from the 11th to the 27th, I think it is.
- 45:08Got all my flights booked, I think for the return and then
- 45:11the two internal flights that came to 900 for the flights.
- 45:14So I got lucky with that because when I'm looking back now, it's
- 45:17God, it's 3 or 4 grand if you want to do that now.
- 45:21Yeah. And I'm in staying in
- 45:23Providence, which we're doing a travel and accommodation guide.
- 45:27I'll put that in there for anyone that wants to keep an eye
- 45:29out for that because Boston Stadium is so far a Boston, it's
- 45:34the equivalent of from Glasgow to the Kelpies.
- 45:38So it is a long way of the the city.
- 45:42So Providence is is a bit closer.
- 45:45So I'm staying there for 10 or 11 nights, I think, and then
- 45:50flying down to Miami. Picturesque.
- 45:52Hopefully last game beat Brazil and I'll be off to Mexico City.
- 45:56I'll be changing my flights. Is that in Mexico City or?
- 46:02Wherever it is, yeah. My return flight from Dublin to
- 46:09Boston was like 700 lbs. And then so that was, I booked
- 46:16this Saturday morning, the day after the draw, and then the
- 46:20Sunday morning it was like €3000.
- 46:24Yeah, wild. So that's like 2700 LB rank,
- 46:30something like that. So jumped up at 2000 LB It's
- 46:33easy. Yeah, it was great.
- 46:34I'd. Like to use this podcast to
- 46:36actually probably shame a company.
- 46:37If that's OK, go. On go on.
- 46:41There was a literally just remembered that and now.
- 46:43So there was a hotel pretty much where you're staying, friend,
- 46:47and I think it was because it's new.
- 46:48England in Providence. So there's somewhere in there
- 46:52and I was like, right, I'll do that.
- 46:54So it was not bad like 1500, but then you go onto your thing,
- 46:59onto the booking and they said do you want to take your
- 47:01suitcase? If do you that's $500.
- 47:04I was just like, I'm not going for. 10 days for that.
- 47:06Suitcase was that I'm not going to wear the same clothes with
- 47:10that you. Know, yeah.
- 47:11With no. You need all the Scotland tops.
- 47:14Well, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I booked, I booked my
- 47:18return flights direct from Manchester for six hundreds, so
- 47:22I'll just get the train down. That's good with my dad and
- 47:25Nepal and some of his pals. And then the the outbound flight
- 47:31was 450. The return flight was 150 or
- 47:34something like that. And then we looked two days
- 47:36later at the outbound flight and it gone up to 1.8 grand just for
- 47:39the outbound flight. So very happy that I was rushing
- 47:44when the ceremony or circus was going on.
- 47:47I was I. Was on a train going into
- 47:50Edinburgh. I know I remember that me and
- 47:53James were in his flat ready to book whatever because I'd booked
- 47:5615 different accommodations. I'd booked 15 different
- 47:59accommodations. Refundable.
- 48:01It was my past 30th on the on this Sunday before so we.
- 48:06Were in. Edinburgh and as soon as I have
- 48:09like why have I not booked it came to me like why have I not
- 48:13done this street? Why am I here instead of trying
- 48:16to pick up my laptop? Can.
- 48:18I just jump in whilst we're talking, why have you just
- 48:21mentioned that Anthony Joseph, Sky Sports journalist, has just
- 48:25tweeted there that Celtic boss Wilfred Nancy has the full
- 48:28backing of the board despite losing his opening for matches.
- 48:33The article reads that the board are happy with the changing
- 48:37system and basically the previous full games and the
- 48:42games from now until January is basically an assessment to see
- 48:47who's good enough and who isn't good enough to fit his system.
- 48:51So I think he's going to be backed in January.
- 48:54Yeah, so that's a big admission from from from the Celtic board
- 48:58back in Wilford, Nancy in January.
- 49:00We'll see how that goes. Obviously next game against
- 49:04Aberdeen's massive to attempt and try and get the Celtic fans
- 49:08back on board. Is that possible?
- 49:10Not sure about that. We'll we'll see in due time.
- 49:13Thank you both very much for coming on.
- 49:15Hopefully we have an amazing World Cup, an amazing time in
- 49:19America. Hopefully my bank, it's not in
- 49:20the Reds and I'll I'll catch you guys on the next podcast.
- 49:23Thank you very much for joining.