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Black Phone: The Dead Dial Back · Xenomania

• 0:15
  Kearns: Funny about child abductions,
• 0:19
  Ryan: Uh, well, I mean in some, videos, you know, you donate $2
• 0:25
  and two go free, maybe even more.
• 0:29
  You have never seen those, those videos.
• 0:30
  It's like a prank video.
• 0:31
  Kearns: Yes, I have
• 0:34
  Ryan: Would you like to donate money to save children?
• 0:36
  Yeah, I'll donate a dollar.
• 0:38
  All right.
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  Come around.
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  Come around one child.
• 0:40
  Kearns: child.
• 0:40
  What child
• 0:41
  Ryan: These people are perplexed.
• 0:43
  Kearns: The one with the computer where it's arguing with the guy and calling him
• 0:45
  a piece of shit because he's not doing it.
• 0:49
  Ryan: No.
• 0:49
  Kearns: So it's like, uh, would you like to donate a dollar to save?
• 0:53
  And it's, I think the dogs or something and he is like, skip.
• 0:56
  And it's like, so you would like for dogs to die?
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  And then it just continues until it makes him feel horrible about
• 1:02
  himself and it keeps upping the ante.
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  It's really funny.
• 1:05
  Ryan: Oh, I saw that one.
• 1:06
  I know what one you're talking about.
• 1:07
  Kearns: but this week everybody we're talking about the black phone.
• 1:14
  Jon: Yeah, buddy.
• 1:15
  Ryan: Really good movie.
• 1:16
  Kearns: Allegedly.
• 1:17
  Ryan: good movie.
• 1:24
  Jon: It exceeded my expectations.
• 1:26
  Kearns: I loved the appeal of it right from the get go too.
• 1:29
  The baseball game in the beginning, the aesthetic.
• 1:32
  They do a really good job of getting into the
• 1:33
  Ryan: Yes,
• 1:34
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:36
  How, how little League Fields looked before they became big business.
• 1:41
  Kearns: field.
• 1:43
  Jon: Just a pat.
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  Ryan: Gimme
• 1:44
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:45
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 1:47
  Jon: Yeah.
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  It very much like the Dazed and Confused baseball game
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  very much in that, that field.
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  Kearns: Just dirt, grass and a couple of bags, well, hopefully
• 1:58
  three bags and a plate.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 2:00
  Kearns: it.
• 2:00
  Rusty fences
• 2:01
  Jon: Yeah.
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  we threw these fences around here to, you know,
• 2:05
  Kearns: mostly
• 2:06
  Jon: some sort of structure and that's it.
• 2:08
  Kearns: Doesn't work all the time.
• 2:10
  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: like that.
• 2:12
  they do a great job too of setting up the abduction in the beginning as well.
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  The tone of the movie shifts dramatically from that point, obviously.
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  Well, it kind of shifts back, but to a different area.
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  But um, gripping and I, you've heard me complain about going the
• 2:28
  angle with kids, but obviously this movie is a lot more than that.
• 2:32
  Ryan: Oh yeah.
• 2:33
  Kearns: which it
• 2:34
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 2:34
  Jon: Yeah, yeah.
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  They spend a lot of time with kidnappings, abductions that are not the main
• 2:43
  one, and then they make, that work.
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  Ryan: it's a slow belt.
• 2:48
  Kearns: which is great
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  Ryan: It's a very
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: was.
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  Ryan: Yes, it was.
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  Jon: This was.
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  it was
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  based on a Joe Hill story,
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  Ryan: okay.
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  Jon: you know, you know Yep.
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  you're getting Joe Hill and a little bit, bit of his dad mixed in there.
• 3:02
  Kearns: is, is of his father's, you know, framework of not being afraid
• 3:08
  to write a beginning that is long.
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  So he builds the world, even though it's a world we know of, he builds it anyway, and
• 3:16
  I don't have a problem with that either.
• 3:18
  not gonna get into my opinion of Joe Hill's writing at large, but,
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  isn't necessarily bad, it's just like, it's so similar to Stephen
• 3:25
  King's that I can't help but compare it and that it's a problem for me.
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  Ryan: Okay.
• 3:31
  Kearns: he's a great writer.
• 3:32
  Joe Hill's a great writer, like full stop,
• 3:35
  Jon: I haven't read a lot, but what I've read, I've enjoyed.
• 3:39
  Kearns: I've never hated it.
• 3:42
  His work, and I've never been thrilled with it either.
• 3:45
  It's always kind of like a solid 78 out of a hundred sort of thing.
• 3:49
  he's, he's always in that right there.
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  And I'm, there are people who love him and great, like, I
• 3:55
  love that you love Joe Hill.
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  I think he's a good, not a good, great writer.
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  but it's that relationship.
• 4:01
  writing is so similar to his dad's.
• 4:03
  It's really hard for me and it's got some, some stuff shaved off that's
• 4:08
  very king and that I love about King.
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  So, but yeah, this isn't an episode about all that.
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  So I'm gonna, I'm gonna stop myself,
• 4:17
  Jon: No, but you know what, it sort of ties into something I
• 4:20
  felt about this movie too, going in is the Blumhouse aspect.
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  That this is a Blumhouse production.
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  And you know, Blumhouse has made good movies.
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  They've made very popular movies, but mostly they have made movies that.
• 4:37
  Aren't necessarily for me.
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  Ryan: agree with that.
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  I can see your standpoint from there.
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  Because they try to go like this indie route and they get it, but it's like
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  very saturated with a lot of money
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: it loses that appeal, but
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  Jon: And a lot, a lot of sequels.
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  Everything they do has a sequel.
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  Like, you know, you have the purges, sinister, um, insidious,
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  the Ho the Halloween reboot.
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  Yeah.
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  There's a sinister too.
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  Kearns: know.
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Kearns: sinister, so that
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Kearns: of makes me sad because it had the perfect ending for that movie.
• 5:17
  Kim and I sat in the
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
• 5:20
  Kearns: lot under like a streetlight, just like, sort of like Jesus Christ,
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  after we saw that movie.
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  So that's a good, that's well done right there.
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  So I could, I could see that.
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  I love when you two
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: like this about, uh, specific studios and their
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  idiosyncrasies, by the way.
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  'cause nobody
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Kearns: you guys.
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  Jon: I mean, again, Blumhouse is good.
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  They do good stuff.
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  It's just they do stuff.
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  I don't even want to say it's for like horror noobs.
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  I think it's just, it's, there's a gloss to most of their stuff
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  that doesn't appeal to me.
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  I like mostly grittier things.
• 6:01
  Ryan: fair.
• 6:01
  Kearns: Guys, this is a podcast episode about things we think are average
• 6:08
  mid to
• 6:09
  Jon: It's mid.
• 6:10
  Kearns: We're almost midway to 100 episodes too.
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  This is technically episode 41
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  Ryan: Ooh.
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  Kearns: when it comes out.
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  And yeah, so we're getting close.
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  Ryan: 42 42,
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  Jon: I love, I love, I love that our episode numbers are either
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  this number or that number.
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  Ryan: the map.
• 6:32
  Kearns: a, but I did fix that in Podbean.
• 6:35
  If you're a Podbean listener, it is listed under in the URLI just made it
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  40 dash zero, the latest episode saw.
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  So now it'll be back on to, this one will be 42, and the one that comes
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  out the week prior will have been 41.
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  So
• 6:55
  Jon: I hope you enjoyed Motel Hell.
• 6:57
  So
• 6:58
  Kearns: You
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  Jon: you guys wanna play a game.
• 7:02
  It's a simple blind drag tonight.
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  No surprise to it.
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  'cause you're all gonna know.
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  Both gonna know what it is.
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  As soon as you see the first picture, it's blind Rank some horror villain masks.
• 7:12
  Ryan: I was kind of, I was getting ready for another, um, what do you call it?
• 7:16
  Um, the villain.
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  Guess.
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  The villain.
• 7:20
  Jon: I was
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  Kearns: guy?
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  Jon: thinking about it, but there's your first.
• 7:22
  Kearns: do, we have to rank the Jason Voorhees hockey mask first.
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  Ryan: Ooh.
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  Jon: He's the, he's your first villain.
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  Kearns: So
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  Jon: Rank the mask.
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  You have five masks to
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  Kearns: abilities.
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  Ryan: is hard.
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  Kearns: help your way here, buddy.
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  'cause I I don't think you need it though.
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  He's going to think of all of his favorite masks ahead of time and pre
• 7:44
  Ryan: Mm-hmm.
• 7:45
  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Ryan: But I feel like John's gonna like throw some things and I'm like,
• 7:51
  Kearns: screen mask is
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  Ryan: uh
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  Kearns: five.
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  Ryan: uh mm mm. I'm gonna rank number two for Jason, just saying
• 8:02
  Jon: thank you for Jason
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  Kearns: opinion.
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  I'm gonna put him at four.
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  I know you can kick my ass when you see me again, person.
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  Jon: all.
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  Ryan: it was, if it was the blue striped one i'd, I'd agree.
• 8:15
  Kearns: Oh yeah,
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  Ryan: But you know, that's the red one.
• 8:20
  Kearns: I've never made Ryan lean forward and disgust before, and I'm
• 8:23
  very happy with myself right now.
• 8:25
  Ryan: This is like.
• 8:27
  is, I'm coming outta my shell.
• 8:28
  Slowly but surely.
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  I mean, I was like saying to people, I would fight them if they said
• 8:33
  Alfred Go was a horrible Alfred
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  Kearns: We will pay a listener $100,
• 8:38
  Jon: Don't call him Shirley.
• 8:39
  Kearns: you by Venmo, $100.
• 8:40
  If you can find the episode where Ryan, that says, instead of slowly
• 8:45
  but surely, he says, surely, but surely, but surly, I think
• 8:49
  Ryan: Shirley, but Shirley,
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  Kearns: gimme the timestamp in the episode, I will send you $100.
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  I am
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  Ryan: I,
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  Kearns: way.
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  I have no money.
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  I will go out and steal a hundred dollars and send it to you.
• 9:01
  Ryan: I will whore myself out
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  Kearns: I will sell my
• 9:05
  Ryan: that,
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  Kearns: my
• 9:06
  Jon: Yeah,
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  Kearns: Give it to you.
• 9:08
  Jon: I'll, I'll do it anyway.
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  Um, all right, so we have a two and a four for Jason next.
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  Mask.
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  Kearns: go.
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  See, you fucked up, Ryan.
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  Ryan: no, no, this, this would be four.
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  Jon: Wow.
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  Kearns: a wow from John?
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  Because you love Texas.
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  You saw a
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  Jon: Wow.
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  Oh four, huh?
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  Kearns: I find the
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  Ryan: I,
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  Kearns: scary.
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  Deuces,
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  Ryan: It is scary, but opinion, that 2003, one, that was
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  Jon: Don't you say it.
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  Don't you say it.
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  Kearns: grotes.
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  Jon: Don't you say it.
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  All right.
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  Where do you have this one?
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  Kerns two.
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  Alright.
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  Ready?
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  Next mask.
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  Ryan: number one.
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  Kearns: number one.
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  I love Michael Myers,
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  Jon: Ooh, bold boy.
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  Kearns: the mask, and I like the way the mask evolved.
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  I like everything about the
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  Kearns: mask and it's scary as shit.
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  Ryan: And that's my favorite movie.
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  I gotta go with that.
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  Kearns: John's got a doozy.
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  Is it
• 10:24
  Jon: Okay.
• 10:25
  Kearns: or something?
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  coming?
• 10:28
  Jon: Oh,
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  Ryan: I got a,
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  Jon: I have a couple doozies left for you guys.
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  Ready?
• 10:33
  Ryan: so I'm ready.
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  Oh five.
• 10:34
  Kearns: from a horror movie, so it should be in the blind ring.
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  Ryan: Take that off.
• 10:40
  Kearns: That's a
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  Jon: Listen,
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  if everybody's gonna call it a horror movie, I'm gonna include it in masks.
• 10:47
  Ryan: It is a creepy mess.
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  You can go to the spirit of Halloween store,
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  Kearns: always fucks around with the last one.
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  I'm gonna put this at five because I'm scared of what you're
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  coming at me with for three,
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  Ryan: which, okay.
• 10:59
  Kearns: but I would put this
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  Ryan: Oh, so
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  Kearns: generally.
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  Ryan: be our three.
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  We both have
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  Jon: right?
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  Yeah.
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  So you both have, you're both gonna have the same three.
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  Ryan: I hope it's Ghostface.
• 11:09
  Kearns: have three.
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  Right?
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  If it's Ghostface,
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  Ryan: I hope ho.
• 11:11
  Jon: Yeah.
• 11:12
  Ryan: Please let it be ghost.
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  Face it be ghost face.
• 11:16
  Kearns: What did he do?
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  It
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  Ryan: Yes.
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  Kearns: I would've done, that would've been perfect for me.
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  I would've been so happy with having Lector at three and Ghost space at five.
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  Ryan: redemption of the list right now.
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  I am really happy with my list
• 11:32
  Kearns: I'm happy with mine.
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  Ryan: now.
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  Jon: I gotta tell you,
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  Kearns: Ghostface.
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  Jon: I gotta tell you.
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  I'd go Michael Myers one.
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  Ryan: Okay.
• 11:44
  Jon: Ja Jason too.
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  'cause I love, I'd love the simplicity.
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  It's, you know, it's just an old school hockey mask.
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  Um, I think I go leather phase three,
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  Lecter four, and then ghost face would be my five also.
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  Kearns: I would've swapped two from that list.
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  If I hadn't screwed that up at the end, I should have known.
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  I knew.
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  I knew you were gonna do something.
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  Ryan: I'm again, I'm, I'm fine with it.
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  I, you know, I love Scream.
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  Kearns: fun, man.
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  Those are fun.
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  So the black phone.
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  Ryan: That was a good one.
• 12:19
  Kearns: what makes this movie unique?
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  Why do people care?
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  Child abduction
• 12:23
  Ryan: Oh,
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  Kearns: Why is this movie good?
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  Ryan: I feel like the pacing is a big thing 'cause it's
• 12:29
  an hour and 40 minute movie.
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  It's very character building.
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  Um, is there, there's really not a lot of gore until the ending.
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  And I feel that all that it kind of gets the viewer to watch.
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  It's the actors doing a hell of a job.
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  It's the writing performing very well it shows and it tracks the audience too.
• 12:55
  And um, we mentioned it with weapons.
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  Kearns: Yeah,
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  Ryan: I would say like for a new generation, I'm not even gonna give
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  them titles for the newer generation.
• 13:04
  This would be the gateway to watch older movies in my opinion.
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  'cause the black phone has a nice slow pace, but it's not boring.
• 13:13
  Kearns: point that it's a gateway movie for Gen Z and Gen Alpha.
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  I'll name them
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Trying to be democratic.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  I, I, I, I think that's a big part of it.
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  Absolutely.
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  Kearns: and kids
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  Jon: I think it,
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  Ryan: Yep.
• 13:31
  Jon: mm-hmm.
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  And, you know, I don't think this is always the case, but the two child leads
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  Kearns: very
• 13:40
  Jon: are pretty good.
• 13:41
  Ryan: And um,
• 13:42
  Jon: They're pretty good at actors.
• 13:44
  Ryan: is a hiccup in the live action remake of How To Train Your Dragon.
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  Kearns: cool.
• 13:49
  Ryan: Um, Jada's a big fan of that series and we saw the trailer for
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  the remake and he does, he nails it.
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  He's a good actor.
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  He's got a lot of growth.
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  He, you know, more
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: but I can see him doing a lot of big stuff.
• 14:05
  Kearns: You know, one thing that kind of hit
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  Jon: Yeah.
• 14:07
  Kearns: with Jeremy Davies.
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  He's an actor who has range, but his face doesn't like,
• 14:15
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 14:16
  Kearns: like the alcoholic Beaty dad, like, you could take him
• 14:20
  Jon: Uh huh.
• 14:21
  Kearns: he's just a giant fetus with a beard.
• 14:23
  Like you can take your army Davies, him back with the belts,
• 14:27
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 14:28
  Kearns: take him out.
• 14:29
  But he, I have a
• 14:29
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 14:30
  Kearns: with him
• 14:31
  Jon: But
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  Kearns: just, he's not that guy to me.
• 14:37
  Jon: fair, fair enough.
• 14:38
  I think part of that, that works with that for me though, is Finney's not bold.
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  At that point, he's not bold enough to stand up to dad.
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  He's not bold enough to stand up to the bullies.
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  He's not, he's, he's tough, but he's meek, like Robin says to him, at one
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  point, you're tough, not because you fought, but because you kept getting up.
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  Kearns: the classic hero trope too, which is not something I'm gonna knock.
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  I
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 15:08
  Kearns: trope.
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  'cause it's so true in life.
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  He has it in
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 15:12
  Kearns: pulled out of him.
• 15:16
  Ryan: The hero's journey
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  Jon: Yep.
• 15:18
  Kearns: Bill Dougs
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  Ryan: and
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  You guys want a five star,
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  Ryan: this is, is deserving.
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  Jon: I think.
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  I think, uh, I don't know if I'd go five.
• 15:30
  This is four is four is pretty reasonable, but here's this five superbly constructed
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  film, the cinematography direction, acting score, et cetera, all way above standard.
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  Won't give plot details, don't worry.
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  We will.
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  But it's a great story, brilliantly told, special mention to the actors
• 15:53
  playing as it brother and sister, totally convincing and with acting
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  skills way beyond their years.
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  Also, Ethan Hawk continues to be an underrated actor who brings a
• 16:06
  unique talent to every role he plays.
• 16:09
  I think Ethan Hawk might have wrote this review.
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  Along with everything everywhere, all at once.
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  This is one of the best films I've seen this year.
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  We'll continue to watch Scott Erickson's work with interest.
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  Highly recommended,
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  Ryan: Okay.
• 16:26
  Kearns: That's a
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  Ryan: Yeah,
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  Kearns: statement.
• 16:28
  Okay.
• 16:29
  Jon: and
• 16:29
  Ryan: that is,
• 16:30
  Kearns: it's
• 16:30
  Jon: that's,
• 16:31
  Kearns: That means they really liked the movie.
• 16:33
  'cause that was a good movie.
• 16:34
  Um, Ethan
• 16:35
  Jon: yeah.
• 16:35
  Yeah.
• 16:36
  Kearns: I'm
• 16:37
  Jon: mean,
• 16:40
  yeah, the thing with everywhere, everything Everywhere all at once
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  is I've never seen a movie like it
• 16:47
  Kearns: Which is hard at
• 16:48
  Jon: and the Yeah, yeah, the not, I mean, they, there were years that
• 16:54
  I watched five, 600 movies, so like we're talking lots and lots of movies,
• 17:03
  so.
• 17:04
  Kearns: Hawk.
• 17:04
  What I like about him is also like interesting about him is that he
• 17:08
  could be the guy who wore a a robe almost the entire movie of sinister.
• 17:14
  Was that a cardigan or a road?
• 17:15
  It was something comfy that he was just wandering around with while he
• 17:18
  was swell whiskey in that movie and
• 17:21
  Ryan: Rope.
• 17:22
  Kearns: it's his robe the whole time and he can
• 17:23
  Ryan: Yeah,
• 17:24
  Kearns: that work.
• 17:24
  I do like Ethan Hawke.
• 17:26
  I used to think he needed a strong lead to go with him, like Denzel or something like
• 17:31
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:32
  Kearns: from training day, because I didn't think he
• 17:34
  could stand on his own as well.
• 17:35
  But he's fine.
• 17:37
  He does a good job.
• 17:39
  Ryan: he steals.
• 17:39
  He steals the, the movie I think as his portrayal, as the Grabber.
• 17:44
  'cause I like
• 17:46
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:46
  Ryan: in and out, in and out and it's very like, it's very mysterious I like it.
• 17:53
  And
• 17:53
  Jon: Yes.
• 17:54
  Ryan: in there too.
• 17:55
  I'll talking about mask tonight.
• 17:56
  That mask is awesome.
• 17:59
  And the transformations like with the little piece that can
• 18:02
  disconnect, I'm presuming pretty cool.
• 18:07
  Jon: I think there's different versions.
• 18:09
  I think he just has different masks that sort of, almost fit the mood that
• 18:13
  he goes down into that basement in.
• 18:16
  Kearns: that's actually super cool.
• 18:19
  Ryan: Yeah, because there's a hat.
• 18:20
  There's a smiling one.
• 18:21
  There's the one that has a frown.
• 18:23
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 18:23
  Ryan: like there was one that had
• 18:24
  Jon: Yep.
• 18:25
  Ryan: at all, like that was like in the beginning.
• 18:28
  Kearns: pick out
• 18:28
  Jon: I think so.
• 18:29
  Yeah.
• 18:30
  Mm-hmm.
• 18:30
  Kearns: No, that's great.
• 18:31
  And that's, uh, when you get into like sociopaths and making
• 18:34
  them unique, that's cool.
• 18:35
  I.
• 18:35
  Jon: Yeah.
• 18:36
  And he, I mean, he's, this is a really good role for Ethan Hawke.
• 18:39
  It's kind of against type, it's, you know, it's,
• 18:42
  Kearns: He's been at a few of these movies now though.
• 18:45
  Blumhouse, how many Blumhouse
• 18:47
  Jon: yeah.
• 18:47
  Kearns: is that?
• 18:47
  Three.
• 18:49
  Ryan: Sinister purge.
• 18:51
  Yeah.
• 18:51
  Three.
• 18:51
  Kearns: Sinister Purge in this.
• 18:53
  Ryan: Yep.
• 18:54
  Kearns: he's starting to get, they're starting to, they like
• 18:55
  themselves some Ethan, for sure.
• 18:58
  Uh,
• 18:59
  Jon: Yep.
• 18:59
  Kearns: he sells tickets as well.
• 19:04
  Jon: Yeah.
• 19:06
  So you guys know for every five star there's gotta be a one star, right?
• 19:10
  Kearns: this
• 19:10
  Ryan: Or a half
• 19:14
  Jon: One star.
• 19:17
  I'm not sure what Kool-Aid these people drank before they watched
• 19:21
  this movie, but I wi I wish my theater would keep it in stock.
• 19:27
  This movie from start to finish maintains a plot that is best
• 19:31
  described as Swiss cheese.
• 19:34
  I would explain all of the plot holes here, but it would take too much
• 19:39
  time and it would spoil the movie.
• 19:41
  No, please explain them.
• 19:42
  I wanna know from what I've been able to recall so far, there's at least
• 19:47
  five or six major details in the movie that just don't add up or just
• 19:52
  cannot be ignored by the viewers.
• 19:55
  As far as production of a film goes, it was quote unquote nice
• 20:01
  to view, but impossible to follow.
• 20:05
  It was just like watching a bunch of tiktoks and hoping they
• 20:09
  kept a consistent storyline.
• 20:11
  It was like watching a movie, a kid dreamt of when he was 12 and when
• 20:16
  his parents paid too much, paid too much for movie school, and then
• 20:20
  he did this for his final project.
• 20:23
  This,
• 20:24
  Ryan: That stunk.
• 20:26
  Jon: this,
• 20:26
  Ryan: That
• 20:27
  Jon: yeah.
• 20:28
  The same people that rate this five stars, probably think the paranormal
• 20:33
  activities are real slash great.
• 20:37
  Save yourself the time, money, and have a couple drinks or
• 20:42
  smokes to watch this movie.
• 20:45
  It'll be entertaining then And only then four outta 10.
• 20:50
  Ryan: I wanna see the review of Nightmare on Elm Street that like.
• 20:55
  Kearns: that was, that was pretty rough.
• 20:58
  That was an
• 20:58
  Ryan: It.
• 20:59
  Jon: Like I, I'm, I'm missing the plot holes.
• 21:03
  Like, I mean,
• 21:04
  Ryan: very linear.
• 21:06
  Jon: are there a few things that are, are maybe a little rushed,
• 21:08
  but there's not gaping holes.
• 21:11
  It's pretty, I mean, aside from like, if you wanted to, if your
• 21:15
  complaint is, well, they don't tell you the background of the grabber.
• 21:19
  Oh, okay.
• 21:20
  Do you need it?
• 21:20
  Ryan: You didn't get the background really for Michael Myers in a way, right?
• 21:26
  you can
• 21:27
  Jon: No, I mean,
• 21:28
  Ryan: Oh, he, He was
• 21:30
  Jon: and I,
• 21:31
  Ryan: the
• 21:31
  Jon: it's,
• 21:31
  Ryan: He's everywhere.
• 21:33
  That was the ending.
• 21:35
  Jon: yeah, he's not yet, Michael's not established as, a relative until part two.
• 21:44
  Ryan: nonetheless.
• 21:44
  Kearns: a chalkboard.
• 21:46
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 21:48
  And so in, Halloween one, his motives are just, he goes and
• 21:52
  kills people on Halloween night.
• 21:53
  Kearns: we're going to find as we move forward in this brave new
• 21:57
  world is that old timers, other than because we're accepting we're,
• 22:02
  we're interested in change, we like the evolution of the, art form.
• 22:06
  It
• 22:06
  Ryan: Yep.
• 22:06
  Kearns: done wrong, malignant, but there's,
• 22:10
  Ryan: A hundred percent.
• 22:10
  Kearns: there's, like, we love, we welcome the new stuff when it's done right.
• 22:14
  Um, weapons.
• 22:15
  So the way it goes with this is, I think it's somebody who's just
• 22:19
  not down for that level of change.
• 22:21
  The, thing that gives it away is the TikTok reference, which I think is
• 22:26
  Ryan: Yep.
• 22:26
  Yeah.
• 22:27
  Jon: Yeah,
• 22:27
  Kearns: be wrong.
• 22:28
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 22:29
  And
• 22:29
  Jon: yeah.
• 22:29
  Ryan: you're,
• 22:30
  Jon: No, I'm,
• 22:31
  Ryan: it's not fast paced.
• 22:34
  Jon: and the parts that you could say are the most TikTok, like, I guess would be
• 22:40
  the phone calls, but each time that phone rings and there's a voice on the end.
• 22:47
  They come back to it.
• 22:49
  They're layering with those phone calls each, of the dead kids that calls him,
• 22:54
  gives him a little bit more information and another tool to use for his escape.
• 23:01
  and it all comes together at the, every little piece they give you in those calls
• 23:06
  comes together right down to the meat freezer on the other side and the frozen
• 23:11
  steak he takes out to give to the dog
• 23:14
  Kearns: what, what in
• 23:15
  Jon: every,
• 23:16
  Kearns: phone is happening here?
• 23:17
  Is this real supernatural?
• 23:19
  'cause this movie could easily have no supernatural element
• 23:21
  whatsoever and still be effective.
• 23:23
  Is this real supernatural?
• 23:24
  Are these real dead
• 23:25
  Jon: exactly.
• 23:26
  Kearns: the void to, to warn him,
• 23:28
  Ryan: Yes.
• 23:30
  Jon: I mean, there're really dead kids.
• 23:32
  There is a supernatural element in his sister, in Finney's, sister
• 23:35
  Gwen, and her ability to have these sort of psychic dreams.
• 23:42
  Kearns: you're
• 23:42
  Jon: Which, you know, they sort of, yeah, they sort of established that
• 23:47
  she has these dreams and they're not, maybe not quite a hundred percent
• 23:52
  accurate, but they're accurate enough to get you into the ballpark of things.
• 23:58
  Kearns: Gotcha.
• 23:59
  All right.
• 24:00
  Jon: and then Finney gets taken and put in this basement with a phone that
• 24:05
  apparently only he and the grabber can ever hear Ring or, and if Finney's
• 24:14
  the only one to ever answer it.
• 24:16
  Ryan: it's a part of his imagination the entire time.
• 24:19
  Jon: Yeah.
• 24:19
  Kearns: and Joe were like getting father and son massages and just talking like,
• 24:24
  wouldn't it be cool if dead people could talk to you through the phone?
• 24:27
  Dad, I'll write a story about it and you can write a story about, we'll see
• 24:30
  which grosses more at the box office.
• 24:33
  'cause I just made that connection when I made the joke about Carrigan's
• 24:36
  phone, I was like, wait a second.
• 24:37
  These two did come out around the same time.
• 24:39
  The stories.
• 24:40
  At least within five years.
• 24:43
  Jon: Yeah.
• 24:44
  Kearns: Mr. Harrigan going better.
• 24:47
  Jon: Father, father and son massages or father and son bumps.
• 24:50
  Kearns: Bumps anymore, man.
• 24:53
  OSK is old.
• 24:55
  Bump himself into a grave and be calling Joe about that.
• 25:04
  Jon: Yeah,
• 25:07
  Kearns: I think we're talking about the same thing.
• 25:10
  Bumps.
• 25:11
  Okay.
• 25:12
  Ryan: Bumps,
• 25:12
  Jon: we are.
• 25:13
  Ryan: bumps.
• 25:15
  Kearns: right.
• 25:15
  Jon: Yeah.
• 25:15
  Kearns: All right.
• 25:16
  Jon: Yeah.
• 25:16
  Kearns: Google YouTube bumps.
• 25:18
  It is.
• 25:20
  Jon: but yeah, so that phone starts ringing and it's all the kids that were
• 25:23
  kidnapped before Finney one by one, giving him little bits and you know,
• 25:30
  finney's identifying who they are, because apparently in this universe, when you're
• 25:35
  dead, you don't remember who you are.
• 25:38
  Ryan: That was a nice little touch.
• 25:39
  Like, they're like, I guess as you die you're losing yourself 'cause you're
• 25:43
  going on to whatever other world or plane, whatever you wanna say.
• 25:47
  Kearns: Death
• 25:48
  Ryan: And Yep.
• 25:49
  And it shows.
• 25:50
  It's pretty, it's pretty cool, especially, um, meets the tough kid
• 25:55
  and he's like, I know who you are.
• 25:56
  And he's like, listen kid, do this, this.
• 26:00
  That was like my favorite one I think.
• 26:02
  Kearns: Tough Kid's.
• 26:02
  One of my favorite characters in the
• 26:04
  Jon: I think.
• 26:05
  Kearns: Bandana.
• 26:06
  Tough Groty kid.
• 26:08
  Ryan: Oh no.
• 26:09
  Jon: There's another one too.
• 26:11
  There's a, yeah.
• 26:12
  Later on you get this long-haired kid whose name I'm scrolling.
• 26:16
  Vance.
• 26:17
  Kearns: too.
• 26:18
  Jon: Vance.
• 26:20
  Yeah.
• 26:20
  So you like the first couple of kids he talks to, you can tell
• 26:24
  where you know you met them.
• 26:26
  they're not necessarily weak, but they're not.
• 26:28
  They're just kind of kids.
• 26:30
  And then you get Vance and Robin at the end and you have to wonder how
• 26:36
  on earth the grabber kept those two under control long enough to kill him.
• 26:41
  Ryan: for with Vance that he was a big dude, like,
• 26:46
  Jon: He was a big kid.
• 26:48
  He was a tough kid and he was crazy.
• 26:50
  And Robin, I mean, they showed you very quickly Robin could fight.
• 26:54
  Ryan: he takes down the kid and he knocks him out once it's like, okay,
• 26:58
  and then he looks back and he smiles and he's just like pounding him in
• 27:01
  as the blood's just flowing from the
• 27:03
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 27:04
  Kearns: That was for the crowd.
• 27:05
  Yeah.
• 27:06
  Ryan: yep.
• 27:06
  Kearns: making a point.
• 27:07
  Sorry
• 27:07
  Jon: Yep,
• 27:08
  Kearns: an example.
• 27:09
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 27:10
  Jon: yep,
• 27:11
  Ryan: It's old school.
• 27:13
  Kearns: Yeah, a kid
• 27:14
  Jon: yep.
• 27:14
  Ryan: generation needs.
• 27:16
  Kearns: There's
• 27:16
  Ryan: That's what this generation needs.
• 27:18
  Kearns: today.
• 27:18
  There are kids who will jump you with six kids.
• 27:21
  Ryan: Mm-hmm.
• 27:21
  Kearns: There's no, there's no
• 27:23
  Jon: Yeah,
• 27:23
  Kearns: nails.
• 27:23
  I'm
• 27:24
  Jon: yeah.
• 27:24
  Kearns: with overwhelm.
• 27:25
  And he was like five feet tall.
• 27:28
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 27:28
  He was, he was shorter than that guy
• 27:31
  Kearns: though.
• 27:31
  My
• 27:31
  Ryan: or that,
• 27:31
  Kearns: if you ever
• 27:32
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 27:33
  Kearns: I'm shouting you out.
• 27:34
  was a scrawny little dude and he was tough as frigging nails.
• 27:40
  It was just the way it went.
• 27:43
  Jon: Yeah.
• 27:43
  A lot of times those guys are
• 27:45
  Kearns: But there are abductors who
• 27:46
  Jon: so you.
• 27:49
  Yeah.
• 27:51
  I mean, they established that, the grabber knocks them out
• 27:55
  with a gas before he takes them.
• 27:57
  But then, I mean, if he conducted himself with Vance and Robin in
• 28:03
  particular, the same way he did with Finney going down and talking to
• 28:07
  him and, you know, whatever, or I,
• 28:11
  Ryan: a
• 28:11
  Jon: I mean, it kind, of makes you believe he's more of a badass than
• 28:15
  just some guy hiding behind a mask too.
• 28:18
  Ryan: Ah, he's, very smart.
• 28:19
  He, like with Finney, you see he drops the groceries, oh, foolish me.
• 28:24
  then gets him close.
• 28:26
  And then
• 28:27
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 28:27
  Ryan: throws, what throws Finney off is the balloons.
• 28:31
  If he didn't like stop a minute to look at the balloons and just run.
• 28:36
  'cause you can see he knows something's off.
• 28:39
  And that's a nice
• 28:40
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 28:41
  Ryan: the grabber leaves balloons at each scene, like his
• 28:44
  calling card that the cops have
• 28:47
  Jon: Yeah.
• 28:47
  Yeah.
• 28:48
  Ryan: don't know how you can hide that.
• 28:49
  They're floating in the air.
• 28:51
  Kearns: Very Pennywise of them are him.
• 28:55
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 28:56
  Dave.
• 28:58
  Yeah, they, that's a de one of those details the cops kept outta the media
• 29:02
  and one of the details that pops up in Gwen's Dreams, which helps,
• 29:07
  ultimately helps the cops believe her.
• 29:10
  It initially, it leads to her getting beat pretty severely by alcoholic dad.
• 29:16
  Ryan: That's tough.
• 29:18
  Kearns: Good
• 29:19
  Ryan: That was tough.
• 29:19
  Kearns: and his,
• 29:20
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 29:20
  Kearns: his vodka though.
• 29:21
  You
• 29:21
  Ryan: Oh,
• 29:22
  Kearns: that out.
• 29:22
  But if we did
• 29:23
  Jon: Absolutely.
• 29:24
  Kearns: F that guy.
• 29:27
  Ryan: I
• 29:27
  Jon: Yeah.
• 29:29
  Ryan: She
• 29:29
  Jon: him.
• 29:30
  Ryan: her own and that's a badass right there.
• 29:33
  And by holding her
• 29:34
  Jon: Yeah.
• 29:35
  Ryan: as a viewer, she is stronger than her father.
• 29:40
  As much as he has the power doing whatever he is doing, she is stronger.
• 29:45
  And that was, that was awesome.
• 29:48
  Jon: absolutely both.
• 29:49
  Both of the kids are stronger than dad.
• 29:51
  Finney just had to realize it.
• 29:54
  Ryan: takes him till the end, but, know, 'cause you
• 29:57
  Jon: Mm-hmm,
• 29:57
  Ryan: like that one scene where he, you, he's clenching, he's angry, but
• 30:01
  he's just like, I can't do anything.
• 30:05
  He's like, stuck.
• 30:06
  And it, it sucks.
• 30:08
  sucks.
• 30:11
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 30:12
  Kearns: Right.
• 30:13
  Jon: Yeah.
• 30:14
  But then he, you know, he gets, he gets his little bits of, bits
• 30:18
  of stuff he, you know, loads of phone receiver up with sand.
• 30:22
  Kearns: Love that.
• 30:25
  Ryan: That
• 30:25
  Jon: That's such an awesome touch.
• 30:29
  Kearns: Probably
• 30:30
  Jon: an awesome touch.
• 30:30
  Kearns: old school movies.
• 30:31
  There's the one where the, they, is it Sean Penn. stuck in the juvie
• 30:35
  center and he gets, he buys like 20 RC Colas fills up the, the,
• 30:40
  Ryan: yeah.
• 30:40
  Kearns: pillowcase and beats the kid with it.
• 30:43
  That's,
• 30:43
  Jon: that's first Bad boys.
• 30:45
  That's non Will Smith bad boys.
• 30:47
  I think that was an HBO movie too.
• 30:49
  Kearns: was great.
• 30:52
  I just have seen the, the
• 30:53
  Jon: Yeah.
• 30:54
  Kearns: the change in it be used before too.
• 30:56
  There's some good stuff out there.
• 30:58
  There's nothing.
• 30:59
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 31:00
  Mm-hmm.
• 31:00
  I, I, I'll say this though, these abductions couldn't occur this way in
• 31:06
  this day and age because you wouldn't, have kids walking alone anymore.
• 31:10
  Like it would take one and kids wouldn't be out on the streets anymore.
• 31:14
  Kearns: culture here, and all the news would be running it because
• 31:16
  that's what gets the ratings.
• 31:18
  Yeah.
• 31:19
  If it, it bleeds, what is it?
• 31:21
  If it bleeds, it leads that thing.
• 31:23
  Ryan: yep.
• 31:23
  Kearns: uh, yeah,
• 31:24
  Jon: Yeah.
• 31:25
  Kearns: with that.
• 31:26
  They'd blame different groups of people for it.
• 31:28
  there'd
• 31:29
  Ryan: Mm-hmm.
• 31:29
  Kearns: of stuff going on, anything but solving the problem.
• 31:33
  And then their killer would be, you know, trying to figure out
• 31:36
  ways to abduct kids at home.
• 31:39
  Ryan: It's just putting fuel on a fire.
• 31:41
  Kearns: The interesting thing about it
• 31:43
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 31:43
  Kearns: a sociopath, a people hunter, they, start out with such an advantage.
• 31:49
  They're gonna get numbers in the beginning, before people figure out
• 31:52
  what's going on, because the element of surprise is so effective anyway.
• 31:56
  They are preying on kids, which is the decisive advantage.
• 32:00
  But there's also just the fact that when you plan something out like that, you're
• 32:05
  gonna have a high success rate, like laying the trap, the groundwork, using
• 32:09
  the crazy knockout gas, all those things.
• 32:13
  Ryan: well he
• 32:15
  Jon: Yep.
• 32:16
  Ryan: in his side.
• 32:18
  He's got his brother, he's got Max, and he's, he on, you know, he's getting close.
• 32:26
  He's getting close to figuring it out at least the first time you see him.
• 32:30
  Um, but he's an eccentric character and it kind of you a more of
• 32:35
  an idea of the difference of growing up, if that makes sense.
• 32:42
  Because the grabber has one view of growing up, and Max
• 32:46
  seems like he has another view.
• 32:48
  Kearns: Effective is a
• 32:49
  Ryan: 'cause he's,
• 32:50
  Kearns: We talked about that in
• 32:51
  Ryan: I, I mean he's over there doing cocaine on the, the counter,
• 32:56
  you know, having a good old time trying to figure out this cold case.
• 33:00
  And his brother's wearing a mask with a belt,
• 33:04
  Jon: He is, yeah, he's trying to figure out this cold case while the
• 33:07
  case is literally right under his feet
• 33:11
  Ryan: which was nice.
• 33:12
  Jon: and it's right below him.
• 33:14
  He's, and like he's got it all figured out and then the cops show
• 33:18
  up there because Gwen led them there.
• 33:22
  And they talk to Max, who's got almost the whole thing figured
• 33:27
  out except an exact location.
• 33:29
  And you can see the cops almost wanna believe him, except he's also so
• 33:36
  koy in that moment that how can you
• 33:39
  Ryan: off the wall.
• 33:41
  You can see the little twitch.
• 33:42
  He was like, listen, this is where it is.
• 33:43
  It's
• 33:44
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 33:44
  Ryan: there to there.
• 33:45
  And the cops are like, what the,
• 33:47
  Jon: Yeah.
• 33:47
  Ryan: the F are you on?
• 33:51
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 33:51
  Kearns: Back then Tang.
• 33:53
  Ryan: Whoa.
• 33:53
  Yeah.
• 33:53
  Jon: okay.
• 33:54
  Kearns: too.
• 33:54
  Ryan: they look at it too?
• 33:56
  Didn't they look at it at the table for a second and then left?
• 34:00
  Okay.
• 34:01
  Jon: Uh, which is, incredible because that's such a botch by those cops.
• 34:08
  'cause that gives them the ability to search the whole house.
• 34:11
  Mm-hmm.
• 34:12
  Ryan: well, we had, listen, we had an hour and a half to go on that film.
• 34:17
  Right.
• 34:19
  It needs to fill
• 34:19
  Jon: Yeah, obviously.
• 34:20
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:24
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 34:24
  Jon: Speaking of time,
• 34:26
  Kearns: one
• 34:26
  Jon: you want a one star?
• 34:27
  Ryan: of course.
• 34:28
  Kearns: up the end
• 34:29
  Jon: Yeah.
• 34:30
  Kearns: a pretty bow.
• 34:32
  Yeah,
• 34:33
  Jon: This is easily one of the five worst films I've ever seen.
• 34:39
  Kearns: that's great question.
• 34:40
  Titanic.
• 34:40
  Jon: I'm curious.
• 34:42
  my first review is deleted for some reason, but I'm so upset at the fact
• 34:47
  that it was so overhyped and I spent money on it that I will persist.
• 34:53
  Still don't understand how it has so many five star reviews.
• 34:58
  The acting is horrible.
• 35:00
  This story is an incoherent, I think he meant to add
• 35:04
  something there, but he did not.
• 35:07
  It's extremely boring.
• 35:09
  Absolutely nothing is explained about any of the characters.
• 35:14
  It's not even slightly scary or creepy in any way.
• 35:18
  The end is astonishingly anticlimactic.
• 35:21
  Kearns: are gonna talk about in a sec.
• 35:23
  Jon: There's,
• 35:26
  there is some cinematography that looks like it was filmed by a group
• 35:30
  of middle schoolers with an iPhone.
• 35:34
  Take the worst Disney Channel movie you can remember and give it a sinister
• 35:39
  vibe and a dollar store budget.
• 35:42
  I honestly feel sorry for the child actors whose careers are now
• 35:47
  ruined because of this monstrosity.
• 35:52
  Horror.
• 35:53
  Horror is definitely dying and is more about hype and marketing these days, but
• 35:59
  this one has its own tier of badness.
• 36:03
  Three outta 10, stay home and watch paint dry instead.
• 36:07
  Kearns: though.
• 36:07
  I'll give you that buddy.
• 36:09
  Wow.
• 36:09
  Ryan: but wrong.
• 36:11
  In my opinion.
• 36:12
  Kearns: is he wrong about the end of
• 36:13
  Jon: Yeah.
• 36:15
  Kearns: Why
• 36:16
  Ryan: It,
• 36:17
  Kearns: Why?
• 36:17
  Ryan: builds up, like John was saying, each phone call.
• 36:21
  Builds up to him setting up, like he digs the hole, he's got the carpet,
• 36:26
  you know, he's leading to traps.
• 36:28
  He's got the phone with the dirt
• 36:30
  Kearns: he flips the script.
• 36:32
  Ryan: yeah.
• 36:33
  And that's the thing,
• 36:34
  Jon: Yep.
• 36:35
  Ryan: he, the grabber brings his dog, which is this, I don't even know the
• 36:38
  breed, but it's, it's a nasty, nasty.
• 36:42
  It's a nasty dog.
• 36:44
  He locks him on the
• 36:45
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 36:45
  Ryan: just waiting for Finn to do something.
• 36:49
  then once Finn jumps over and the grabber follows him, goes in the hole
• 36:54
  and the grabber breaks his leg, gets caught in the vent, and he goes to town.
• 36:59
  And as, um, the first victim states he's got, uh, a lean, a mint.
• 37:06
  A mint arm.
• 37:07
  Was it a mint arm?
• 37:08
  He's got a
• 37:09
  Jon: Mint arm.
• 37:09
  Yeah.
• 37:10
  Yeah.
• 37:10
  Your arm is, your arm is mint.
• 37:12
  Ryan: he goes swinging.
• 37:14
  Kearns: he's a pitcher baby.
• 37:17
  Jon: Yeah, it is.
• 37:18
  Ryan: was so, it feels so good.
• 37:21
  it's, feel like I've
• 37:23
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 37:23
  Ryan: lot of movies, LA Horror films, of course.
• 37:26
  'cause we do the podcast and I've been watching more movies.
• 37:29
  This has been the most satisfying villain.
• 37:32
  Death in a long time.
• 37:35
  Jon: It is pretty satisfying.
• 37:36
  Yeah.
• 37:37
  Kearns: There's
• 37:38
  Jon: Or presumed to death.
• 37:39
  Kearns: I'm forgetting the name,
• 37:41
  Ryan: Oh,
• 37:41
  Kearns: but there
• 37:42
  Ryan: I got some details.
• 37:43
  Kearns: a guy, um, well, he invites another dude over.
• 37:47
  There's like an inheritance thing going on.
• 37:49
  Whatever it would be in his best interest if the guy invited over his
• 37:52
  dead, he brings him into meet his tiger, his like giant, all black tiger.
• 37:58
  uh, he locks him into the paddock at night.
• 38:00
  And they usually feed the cat.
• 38:03
  They haven't fed it all day.
• 38:04
  So he used to sit there and wait, but the cat's never tasted blood before.
• 38:09
  throughout the night there's random, you know, whatever.
• 38:11
  Eventually trying to eat him, he manages to get himself wedged up
• 38:15
  high and it just, got close enough where it claws him and gets a
• 38:17
  little bit of him to munch, MunchOn.
• 38:20
  The dude, assuming he's dead, opens up the, the door in the morning comes in and
• 38:23
  he is like, Hey, Tommy boy or whatever he calls the damn thing, I forget it.
• 38:27
  And because
• 38:28
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 38:28
  Kearns: human blood, it devours him instead.
• 38:32
  that seems very similar how the
• 38:35
  Ryan: What it,
• 38:35
  Kearns: the dog goes about business.
• 38:40
  Jon: Well, the dog is distracted by a frozen steak.
• 38:43
  Ryan: frozen.
• 38:44
  That looked thawed.
• 38:45
  All right.
• 38:47
  Jon: Uh, fair enough.
• 38:48
  I mean, he, he did break into that freezer some amount of time ago,
• 38:54
  Ryan: all that cold air is coming out
• 38:57
  Jon: and while, while Finney's fighting to grab her, Gwen has led the cops back
• 39:02
  into the area, just to the house, across the street after she dreamt about it and
• 39:09
  then went riding her bike to try to find the house, and then seeing the ghosts of
• 39:15
  the already dead kids in front of a house.
• 39:18
  It turns out she's at the house across the street.
• 39:21
  The cops raided that house and it looks like they're not gonna find anything.
• 39:25
  You're like, oh, crap, he moved him.
• 39:26
  They're not gonna, finney's not gonna escape.
• 39:29
  Or he is gonna escape and he's gonna be in some sort of limbo land or something.
• 39:33
  But, you know, they discover a basement in that house and the, you know, the graves
• 39:38
  that the grabber dug there and then, you know, as Gwen is sitting and crying out
• 39:46
  of that, across the street comes Finney.
• 39:49
  Ryan: Yep.
• 39:50
  Good ending.
• 39:52
  Jon: It is, it is.
• 39:53
  But I will, I will say this.
• 39:55
  I mean, and you know, now knowing that there's a black phone too
• 39:59
  coming, I will, I will repeat one of my consistent horror rules.
• 40:04
  If you do not see the, the, the character dead, the character is probably not dead.
• 40:12
  Kearns: like Ethan Hawks getting a payday again.
• 40:15
  Ryan: So you wanna hear the curve ball that's kind of like in, in the trailer.
• 40:21
  So I was watching the trailer 'cause their reviews are going crazy for the sequel.
• 40:26
  the first one's excellent.
• 40:27
  I feel like it doesn't need a sequel, but the sequel does have my interest.
• 40:31
  And watching the trailer today, it seems like he's, there's like a connection.
• 40:37
  Like he's in hell.
• 40:39
  He's coming back through dreams.
• 40:42
  It's very Freddy.
• 40:44
  Um,
• 40:46
  Kearns: like an
• 40:46
  Ryan: but it's, yeah, it's like his connection is through this telephone
• 40:52
  booth on a frozen lake and it's, it looks interesting, looks scary.
• 41:00
  Um, he's all mingled up.
• 41:03
  He's been in hell, like he's coming back.
• 41:05
  But this is kind like.
• 41:07
  The start of sadly to say a franchise, I feel, 'cause
• 41:14
  Jon: It very well could be.
• 41:15
  I don't think it needs to be, but it could be.
• 41:18
  Ryan: is gonna end it, but
• 41:20
  Kearns: just make a good one-off and don't ruin it and they're gonna ruin it.
• 41:23
  But that's what to do today.
• 41:25
  Alright,
• 41:26
  Ryan: Yep.
• 41:26
  Kearns: overall though, we, it was well received.
• 41:28
  We enjoyed it.
• 41:29
  John's gonna give one more review and then we're gonna run into top five.
• 41:33
  Jon: It was not well received by this man.
• 41:36
  Ryan: Half star.
• 41:38
  Jon: We have another one.
• 41:39
  We have another one who has not seen enough movies in his life.
• 41:42
  One star.
• 41:44
  This was quite possibly the worst movie I have ever seen.
• 41:48
  Nothing happens.
• 41:51
  I will forgive myself for wasting $20 and two, do two hours of
• 41:55
  my life to watch this film.
• 41:57
  Awful writing, confusing and uninteresting story.
• 42:02
  Abysmal child actors cringe jokes and the tone of movie did
• 42:09
  not match the themes whatsoever.
• 42:12
  I recommend no one watches this movie unless you have a lot of boring things
• 42:17
  to do and would like to find something more boring to compare them to making
• 42:23
  those things much more enjoyable.
• 42:27
  Every dollar wasted on this movie should be donated to charity.
• 42:31
  No one deserves to be paid for this embarrassing excuse for a movie.
• 42:37
  If you ever feel bad about yourself, your life, or anything that you are not
• 42:42
  happy with, please watch this movie.
• 42:45
  By the times the credits roll, you'll be crying tears of joy that no matter
• 42:51
  what has happened to you, no matter what you have done wrong in your
• 42:56
  life, you did not make this movie and things will not seem so bad.
• 43:01
  Kearns: That guy was battling demons in that review.
• 43:04
  Ryan, do me
• 43:04
  Ryan: Oh yeah.
• 43:06
  Kearns: Bring this down to your chin
• 43:09
  because all I hear on the mic is
• 43:12
  Ryan: Oh, my bad.
• 43:13
  Kearns: it's all good.
• 43:14
  I don't know if it'll keep going or not.
• 43:17
  Now I still hear it.
• 43:22
  Is it John?
• 43:25
  No, it's not John.
• 43:27
  I see it on
• 43:28
  Ryan: Is it
• 43:29
  Kearns: Do you see the little, do you see the volume thing go up when he breathes?
• 43:34
  Jon: Breathe.
• 43:37
  Yep,
• 43:37
  Kearns: So through the whole review, all I'm hearing is
• 43:41
  with the wind through the willows.
• 43:46
  We should keep this in the
• 43:47
  Ryan: my bet?
• 43:48
  Kearns: No,
• 43:48
  Ryan: My bet.
• 43:49
  Kearns: fault.
• 43:49
  You don't have
• 43:50
  Ryan: I'll
• 43:50
  Jon: absolutely.
• 43:51
  Ryan: breath.
• 43:51
  F.
• 43:51
  Kearns: don't know.
• 43:51
  It never, it's never happened
• 43:53
  Jon: Hold your breath and No, I've never heard it before.
• 43:57
  Kearns: minutes, trying to figure out if it's you or John.
• 44:00
  Ryan: it's just been a weird day.
• 44:01
  All right.
• 44:02
  Kearns: fixes it.
• 44:03
  It's a weird day with your lung capacity is
• 44:05
  Ryan: day.
• 44:06
  Kearns: because
• 44:10
  I just ran a triathlon, bro.
• 44:12
  It's a weird day.
• 44:13
  Ryan: Had a, had a run before doing the podcast.
• 44:16
  Kearns: get my, you know, the bellow is going for all that.
• 44:20
  All right, so th this was a good movie.
• 44:22
  This shouldn't be a franchise.
• 44:23
  I think we're gonna leave it at that, right guys?
• 44:26
  Ryan: Yep.
• 44:27
  I agree.
• 44:27
  Jon: Yeah, we don't need, we don't need I, I'll, I'll watch too.
• 44:32
  That would probably be where I stop.
• 44:33
  Ryan: Yeah, I agree.
• 44:36
  Two I.
• 44:36
  Kearns: just to be judgy.
• 44:39
  Ryan: Well, mean, if how, it sounds like it's gonna be a
• 44:44
  complete ending for the second one.
• 44:46
  If they were to do a third one, it would definitely become like, again,
• 44:50
  like I said, Freddy is because he's just gonna come back from, hell
• 44:54
  haunt these kids, haunt whatever.
• 44:57
  But this leads to my top five of the night
• 45:00
  Kearns: What a
• 45:01
  Ryan: and one, one is enough.
• 45:04
  And these are unnecessary sequels and franchises.
• 45:08
  Kearns: it.
• 45:09
  All right.
• 45:09
  Let's do it.
• 45:09
  Ryan: Alright.
• 45:10
  Jon: Ooh.
• 45:11
  Oh, we could get some fights here too.
• 45:13
  Ryan: I'm ready for this.
• 45:14
  So my number five, we've mentioned it many of times, go through it quick.
• 45:19
  It's the Blair Witch Project One was enough.
• 45:22
  didn't need a sequel.
• 45:24
  We didn't need the second, we didn't need the third.
• 45:27
  We just need the first one.
• 45:28
  It was I, well, yeah, that
• 45:31
  Kearns: that?
• 45:32
  Ryan: I, I gotta start safe.
• 45:34
  Come on now.
• 45:35
  Kearns: judging.
• 45:36
  Jon: I, I mean, I have to tell you, I like, I like the two sequels
• 45:39
  more than I like the original.
• 45:41
  Kearns: to pick, pick at you now,
• 45:43
  Ryan: when she's in the ruins, in the sequel and she like loses the baby and
• 45:47
  she's like, I don't know what's going on.
• 45:49
  You're losing the baby.
• 45:50
  There's pain, there's blood everywhere, and there's, she's just bleeding.
• 45:54
  They're like, do we use the flip phone to call the nine one one?
• 45:58
  It's like, yes, yes.
• 46:02
  Kearns: you do?
• 46:02
  Ryan: Fuck, number four.
• 46:06
  Number four.
• 46:07
  Ooh.
• 46:08
  Oh one was enough.
• 46:10
  Psycho.
• 46:13
  Do we need two?
• 46:15
  Do we need three?
• 46:16
  Do we need four?
• 46:19
  You
• 46:19
  Jon: enough.
• 46:20
  Ryan: they have a sequel.
• 46:21
  The book has a sequel.
• 46:23
  It's a nice follow up.
• 46:24
  But movie wise, they're fun, but not necessary.
• 46:30
  Kearns: I'm with
• 46:31
  Jon: Did we need a Gu, a Gus Vanzant remake
• 46:34
  Ryan: exactly shot by shot.
• 46:37
  Jon: with Ann Hait and Vince Vaughn?
• 46:39
  Did we need that?
• 46:41
  Ryan: I wa I started watching it 'cause I was like, oh, maybe they did something
• 46:45
  Jon: It's bad.
• 46:46
  Kearns: Vince
• 46:46
  Ryan: no they didn't.
• 46:47
  Jon: It's bad.
• 46:48
  Kearns: creepy in it though, which is kind of, because it's
• 46:50
  Vince Vaughn looking that way.
• 46:51
  You're like, what the hell?
• 46:53
  But other than
• 46:54
  Ryan: I, he,
• 46:54
  Kearns: the
• 46:55
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 46:55
  Kearns: It's Vince
• 46:56
  Ryan: he does great.
• 46:57
  Kearns: I mean, for
• 46:58
  Ryan: He does.
• 46:58
  I, yeah.
• 47:00
  I mean, he's a, he's a good actor in the role, but just change it up.
• 47:05
  Which,
• 47:06
  Kearns: one does not have a lot of range.
• 47:07
  I'm just gonna say it.
• 47:08
  Throw that out
• 47:09
  Ryan: no,
• 47:10
  Kearns: He
• 47:11
  Ryan: it big,
• 47:12
  Kearns: season three or two.
• 47:13
  Which one was it?
• 47:15
  'cause he was just such a bad villain.
• 47:17
  Ryan: I think it was three.
• 47:18
  It
• 47:19
  Kearns: Rachel
• 47:20
  Jon: Two.
• 47:20
  Ryan: was
• 47:20
  Jon: it's three.
• 47:21
  Kearns: the guy from Friday Night Lights and, and, uh, the
• 47:25
  Irish dude with the big penis.
• 47:31
  Ryan: Colin Ferrell.
• 47:31
  Kearns: that's right.
• 47:32
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 47:32
  Kearns: knows about the big penis.
• 47:37
  We're gonna clip that
• 47:38
  Jon: Ryan.
• 47:43
  Ryan: Uh, number number three.
• 47:46
  There's no penises in this film, but again, one was enough.
• 47:49
  The Exorcist,
• 47:50
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 47:52
  a crucifix though.
• 47:54
  Yeah.
• 47:54
  Ryan: I Listen
• 47:55
  Kearns: at the first.
• 47:56
  You're right.
• 47:57
  Ryan: again, it, it's a book.
• 48:00
  The sequel, the heretic of the book is excellent.
• 48:04
  They did it as a third film.
• 48:06
  It's a good film, but late.
• 48:10
  The first one hits the punch.
• 48:11
  You fuck it up with the second one.
• 48:14
  I'm not even bleeping that out.
• 48:15
  No.
• 48:15
  You fuck it up with the second one, and then you come back with the third one,
• 48:20
  which is decent, but there's no saving.
• 48:22
  And then the new one.
• 48:25
  What are we doing here?
• 48:26
  You're just, you're.
• 48:28
  Copying everything everyone has done.
• 48:30
  Do something different.
• 48:33
  Jon: Yeah.
• 48:34
  You're, you're copying what other people have done who are
• 48:37
  copying what you did originally.
• 48:39
  Kearns: copy of a copy.
• 48:40
  If you watch multiplicity, you know that you can't do that.
• 48:44
  I want pizza, Steve.
• 48:45
  All right.
• 48:45
  What's your number two?
• 48:47
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 48:48
  I be eventually you get one Shaving his tongue.
• 48:50
  Kearns: the pizza in his wallet that has sex with his wife.
• 48:56
  Jon: She touched my pep.
• 48:56
  Steve.
• 48:58
  Kearns: Go see multiplicity kids.
• 48:59
  All right.
• 49:00
  Ryan: multiplicity.
• 49:01
  So good.
• 49:01
  1996. Good year Black sheep came out too.
• 49:04
  number two, um, Kern's favorite film.
• 49:07
  One was enough child's play.
• 49:10
  Kearns: iTrick.
• 49:10
  That movie, man.
• 49:11
  Uh, it's a good
• 49:12
  Ryan: I,
• 49:12
  Kearns: when I was a kid, that movie messed me up.
• 49:15
  Ryan: John, gets blown up at the, he gets blown up at the end of the first one.
• 49:20
  What do they do?
• 49:21
  They recollect his pieces and they put it through the melting to create
• 49:26
  a new doll to bring him back to life.
• 49:29
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 49:29
  Kearns: poops for that.
• 49:31
  Ryan: it's a cool concept, but I and the military one come.
• 49:36
  Kearns: All roads lead to seed of Chucky.
• 49:38
  Come on.
• 49:38
  We gotta
• 49:39
  Ryan: Yes,
• 49:41
  Kearns: This is
• 49:42
  Ryan: I've watched Scene of Chucky multiple times and
• 49:44
  got a good laugh out of it.
• 49:46
  It's, it's, if you watch it as a comedy,
• 49:48
  Kearns: adjacent.
• 49:49
  Yeah,
• 49:49
  Ryan: it's funny, but Bri a chunky ends it with the whore and God,
• 49:55
  John Ru John Rett iss in it.
• 49:58
  He doesn't even save it.
• 50:01
  Kearns: just that religious when you think about It
• 50:03
  Ryan: I know.
• 50:04
  I went on my soapbox tonight.
• 50:05
  Kearns: one though.
• 50:06
  All right.
• 50:08
  Good list.
• 50:09
  Ryan: John, do you have any comments?
• 50:10
  I was just on child's life.
• 50:13
  Kearns: It
• 50:13
  Jon: No, no, I'm, I'm I, I'm gonna let that one go.
• 50:16
  Although the last two childs play movies were really good.
• 50:19
  Ryan: I, so I haven't seen them yet.
• 50:21
  'cause I was nervous that they still went in.
• 50:24
  I mean, you're always gonna have comedy, but I was nervous that I wasn't gonna
• 50:28
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 50:28
  Ryan: seed of Chucky was just a
• 50:31
  Jon: No, you should def, definitely watch the, I mean, especially if you
• 50:34
  watched all the ones up to it, you might as well watch the last two.
• 50:38
  Ryan: two.
• 50:38
  That's a whole other thing though.
• 50:40
  But my number one might cause a little controversy.
• 50:43
  And I will say I like number two.
• 50:46
  Kearns: You do love number
• 50:47
  Ryan: Uh, I like, I like,
• 50:50
  Jon: I like number two too.
• 50:51
  Ryan: like, I like
• 50:52
  Kearns: on that one.
• 50:53
  John.
• 50:54
  Ryan: just.
• 50:55
  It's short though.
• 50:56
  Not as long as like, you know, the remaking stuff, but one was enough.
• 51:03
  It's the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
• 51:06
  Kearns: No, John.
• 51:08
  John disagrees.
• 51:09
  You did this on purpose.
• 51:11
  Ryan: No, no, no.
• 51:12
  Kearns: at him Twitch.
• 51:12
  Ryan: I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel the first one's a classic.
• 51:18
  like the second one.
• 51:21
  tops amazing.
• 51:22
  But you like he goes more into the comedy with the second one, which I appreciate.
• 51:28
  But the first one is a great horror film.
• 51:31
  I mean, you got leather face, you next generation.
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  Jon: No.
• 51:38
  Deny the world Matthew McConaughey and Renee Zeiger in a Texas chainsaw movie.
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  You would
• 51:48
  Kearns: Why
• 51:48
  Jon: take that from us?
• 51:50
  Kearns: low?
• 51:50
  He's yelling,
• 51:51
  Ryan: That's,
• 51:52
  Kearns: shockingly
• 51:53
  Ryan: that's, that's how angry he is.
• 51:55
  It's a quiet yell.
• 51:58
  Jon: Yeah.
• 51:58
  It's
• 52:00
  Ryan: I'm just tasted confused.
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  Matthew McConaughey.
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  Kearns: All right, all right.
• 52:04
  All right.
• 52:05
  All.
• 52:05
  Jon: no, no.
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  Texas Chainsaw, Matthew MCC McConaughey.
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  It's the best Renee Zellweger has ever been.
• 52:14
  Ryan: Bridget Jones', diary.
• 52:16
  Kearns: on purpose.
• 52:17
  Uh, Jerry McGuire.
• 52:18
  Jon: I said what I said.
• 52:20
  I said what?
• 52:21
  I said,
• 52:22
  Kearns: He
• 52:22
  Ryan: I still love you.
• 52:23
  Kearns: I think we were establishing that the moment.
• 52:26
  Damn,
• 52:27
  Ryan: Oh,
• 52:27
  Jon: no.
• 52:27
  Ryan: I can't wait for part two.
• 52:29
  Oh, this is just, this is the start of a series right now.
• 52:34
  Kearns: you God.
• 52:35
  Jon: Oh, you, you wait, sir. You wait until I get ahold of franchises.
• 52:41
  That didn't need to exist, Mr. Scream.
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  2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 12.
• 52:46
  Kearns: went to like
• 52:47
  Ryan: that is, that is a great storyline.
• 52:50
  They all make sense.
• 52:53
  All right.
• 52:54
  All right.
• 52:57
  Kearns: What is
• 52:57
  Jon: up in one.
• 52:58
  Kearns: audio?
• 52:59
  I can't
• 52:59
  Ryan: That's how
• 53:00
  Kearns: you're so angry that your sound isn't working.
• 53:05
  No, it's
• 53:05
  Jon: How about now?
• 53:06
  Kearns: worse.
• 53:06
  Ryan: no
• 53:08
  Kearns: It's like auto
• 53:09
  Jon: How about now?
• 53:11
  Ryan: A little better.
• 53:13
  Kearns: It's
• 53:13
  Jon: How about now?
• 53:14
  Kearns: bad.
• 53:15
  Ryan: Skelet.
• 53:15
  Kearns: Now we, we can hear you when you speak normally.
• 53:18
  Try it.
• 53:22
  Jon: I think it just doesn't like me yelling.
• 53:23
  Kearns: It is lower.
• 53:24
  We will figure it out.
• 53:26
  Do, do, do, do.
• 53:27
  Ryan: You know what?
• 53:28
  I'll even, I'll even accept Halloween.
• 53:31
  And I love Halloween.
• 53:32
  Kearns: it a little bit,
• 53:32
  Ryan: I love Halloween.
• 53:33
  I love Halloween.
• 53:35
  Kearns: we know you
• 53:35
  Ryan: I love Halloween.
• 53:36
  Kearns: top five before you backpedal yourself into saying that all these
• 53:39
  movies should have been franchises.
• 53:43
  Ryan: Well, not franchised actually.
• 53:47
  Jon: All right.
• 53:48
  I went with five phone calls that are not as helpful as the ones in black phone
• 53:55
  Kearns: All right, let's.
• 53:56
  Ryan: That's a good one.
• 53:59
  Jon: at number five is, don't answer the phone.
• 54:04
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 54:07
  Jon: Um, a Vietnam vet returns home very disturbed and begins to terrorize
• 54:12
  women and taunt a radio psychologist with the details of each murder.
• 54:17
  Kearns: sideshow Bob.
• 54:19
  Jon: It was not Frazier Crane.
• 54:21
  There are no cheers Appearances on this list this week.
• 54:24
  Number four is a movie vinegar syndrome put out a few years ago.
• 54:28
  It's called Disconnected.
• 54:31
  A video store employee named Alicia starts getting ominous,
• 54:35
  threatening phone calls at work after breaking up with her boyfriend.
• 54:39
  But police believe it is Franklin, a man suspected in a series of gruesome murders.
• 54:46
  And this, this is directed by the same guy that directed psychos in love, which
• 54:50
  I threw on the top five a while ago.
• 54:52
  Stays same kind of same kind of atmosphere, same kind of idea.
• 54:58
  Disconnected number three.
• 55:02
  I actually watched this afternoon to kick off October.
• 55:06
  It's, it's a franchise that should have sequels.
• 55:11
  Ryan, it's, um,
• 55:15
  Kearns: Oh,
• 55:15
  Jon: one missed call.
• 55:18
  Kearns: Okay.
• 55:18
  Jon: Japanese one, not the American.
• 55:23
  we skip American remakes.
• 55:25
  Um, so in this Takashi and Mikay movie, um, people receive terrifying
• 55:30
  voicemails from their future selves as they are violently killed.
• 55:36
  The call calls include the exact time and date of their deaths.
• 55:40
  S
• 55:41
  Ryan: very death note.
• 55:43
  Kearns: Death note
• 55:44
  Ryan: When did this Mo, when did
• 55:45
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 55:45
  Ryan: come out?
• 55:46
  Kearns: I think predate death
• 55:48
  Jon: Oh three.
• 55:49
  Ryan: That's crazy.
• 55:52
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 55:53
  you get touches of the usual me kay chaos.
• 55:56
  But it's not, it's for him restrained,
• 56:04
  but it's, it's, I mean, it's definitely not completely hinged.
• 56:10
  number two is a classic.
• 56:15
  You all, everybody, knows a, line from this movie without
• 56:18
  knowing what movie it's from.
• 56:20
  The movie is when a stranger calls,
• 56:23
  Ryan: A great movie
• 56:25
  Jon: we've traced the call.
• 56:26
  It's coming from inside the house.
• 56:30
  Ryan: Such a great line.
• 56:31
  Jon: A psychopathic killer returns after seven years to torture the same
• 56:36
  babysitter with phone calls before the police trace the call and find
• 56:41
  it's coming from inside the house.
• 56:44
  Um, you have Carol Kane and Charles daring in this and
• 56:50
  nice, nice little creepy slice of seventies,
• 56:56
  which brings us to number one,
• 56:59
  a movie that doesn't have a sequel,
• 57:03
  but sadly has two remakes that get worse each time they remake it.
• 57:09
  And that's black Christmas.
• 57:11
  Ryan: The first one, not the
• 57:12
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 57:15
  Uh, and neither the first, uh, neither of the remakes, uh, a stranger.
• 57:18
  Called the Moaner or Real Name Billy Stocks and makes numerous
• 57:23
  Obste prank calls to sorority girls during Christmas break.
• 57:26
  Directed by Bob Clark of Porkies and a Christmas story starring Olivia
• 57:32
  Hussey, Udo Ki and Margot Kidder.
• 57:37
  Kearns: Pew Hussy.
• 57:39
  But all right.
• 57:40
  That was definitely a
• 57:41
  Jon: Olivia Hussy.
• 57:42
  Kearns: phone call
• 57:46
  creeps, um, everyone prank phone calls were like a real thing and not just
• 57:50
  Jon: Oh.
• 57:51
  Kearns: scams.
• 57:53
  Ryan: Uh, yeah, I used to, well, I pranked a couple people in my time.
• 57:57
  Kearns: get the ones where it's like a secret message by
• 57:59
  a Chinese operative to you?
• 58:01
  you ever gotten those voicemails?
• 58:03
  get them
• 58:04
  Ryan: No,
• 58:05
  Kearns: like once or twice a year.
• 58:06
  It goes like, it's quiet, there's a little static, and then it's like
• 58:09
  Manchurian candidate messages and Mandarin
• 58:12
  And you're like, what the frick was that?
• 58:15
  And then you go out and you kill your neighbor 'cause it told you to
• 58:19
  Ryan: I had a buddy call me as Ken Kif once.
• 58:22
  That was funny.
• 58:23
  was great.
• 58:26
  Kearns: No, prank calls are outta control, but All right guys, was,
• 58:30
  Ryan: um.
• 58:30
  Kearns: I
• 58:31
  Ryan: Before we leave, um, I know this, hold on.
• 58:34
  This is, this is worth it.
• 58:35
  I know this episode is gonna air two weeks, um, from the date or
• 58:40
  actually a week from the date.
• 58:41
  And, um, xenomania would like to shout out a special birthday to Reggie Banister.
• 58:48
  His birthday was two days ago.
• 58:50
  He turned Eddie, uh, 80.
• 58:52
  And, uh, happy birthday, Reggie.
• 58:54
  Kearns: Happy birthday, Reggie.
• 58:56
  Thanks for the memories.
• 58:56
  We
• 58:57
  Jon: yeah.
• 58:57
  Right.
• 58:57
  Kearns: laid, buddy.
• 58:59
  Ryan: Yeah, we do.
• 59:02
  Kearns: All right.
• 59:02
  That was
• 59:03
  Ryan: But anyway,
• 59:03
  Kearns: I don't hate you anymore.
• 59:05
  All right guys.
• 59:06
  Hope you enjoy the episode.
• 59:07
  We'll see you next week.
• 59:10
  Ryan: a good one.