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Stugotz fills in for The Herd - Hour 2 - How overrated is James Harden? · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 3: Eight seven seven for The Herd. How Thanks to Sean
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  Speaker 3: McDonough for joining us an hour number one. Jeff Passon's
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  Speaker 3: going to join us in the third hour of today's show.
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  Speaker 3: We will get to the Calves and Pistons here in
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  Speaker 3: just a second. But I realize the audience is missing Collins,
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  Speaker 3: so let's get Ai Collins thoughts here quickly. Guys on
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  Speaker 3: the Pistons calve series.
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  Speaker 4: Detroit going up to zip on Cleveland tells you this
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  Speaker 4: isn't a cute story, It's a power move. Cad Cunningham
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  Speaker 4: closes again with twenty five and ten. Tobias Harris gives
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  Speaker 4: you twenty one, and the Pistons are dictating the terms
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  Speaker 4: of the series, like the one seed should Cleveland's.
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  Speaker 3: Getting big nights.
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  Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell had thirty one, Jared Allen had twenty two
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  Speaker 4: and it still feels like they're playing catch up the
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  Speaker 4: whole game.
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  Speaker 3: There's a name there for the calves he left out.
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  Speaker 3: He was three of thirteen from the field. He's terrible
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  Speaker 3: in the postseason. He's James Harden. Dude, he is so laughable.
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  Speaker 5: It is funny to me that now it was sort
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  Speaker 5: of reawakened the James Harden versus Dwayne Wade, who is
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  Speaker 5: the better two guard? It is such a laughable debate,
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  Speaker 5: such a laughable debate when you really think about it,
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  Speaker 5: because James Harden is well. First of all, can you
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  Speaker 5: think of the career highlight defensive play of James Harden?
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  Speaker 3: I cannot, No, No, I can think of one.
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  Speaker 5: It was a no look swipe that he had on somebody.
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  Speaker 5: I want to say it was Patrick Bevma, maybe not.
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  Speaker 5: He just looked the other way and swiped down and
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  Speaker 5: eventually got a steal out of that. That's it, Okay. Now,
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  Speaker 5: there are so many highlight blocks and steals from Dwayne.
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  Speaker 3: Wade in fairness, all right, but I don't remember any
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  Speaker 3: of them. So like, in fairness to your game's hard,
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  Speaker 3: there aren't many defensive plays that I remember from individuals
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  Speaker 3: in the NBA over the course of time. I just
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  Speaker 3: don't I remember the steal from Jordan Game six in
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  Speaker 3: the NBA Finals against the Utah Jazz, because he's famous
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  Speaker 3: of all time, Larry steals the ball, gives it off
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  Speaker 3: to DJ. Excuse me.
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  Speaker 6: Also, what strange circles is? Is he rolling in where
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  Speaker 6: he's saying the conversations between Dwayne Wade and James Harden
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  Speaker 6: have been awakened, Stu, Those conversations aren't happening in any
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  Speaker 6: of my circles.
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  Speaker 3: I've never had it. I've never had it with anyone
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  Speaker 3: at any time and at any point with any person.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Pat Beverley just reawakened those things by saying that
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  Speaker 5: he was better than Dwayne Wade. Than Dwayne Wade himself.
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  Speaker 5: The man himself went on a pod and said he
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  Speaker 5: shouldn't be talking about me.
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  Speaker 3: He can't do anything I can do.
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  Speaker 5: And then he's basically been defending himself against the James
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  Speaker 5: Harden conversation without insulting James Harden by saying, look, after
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  Speaker 5: five years, I already had a Hall of Fame career,
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  Speaker 5: and I don't think you can say the same thing
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  Speaker 5: about him. And so that to me is a laughable debate.
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  Speaker 5: Dwayne impacted the games in ways that you know James
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  Speaker 5: Harden couldn't, and it's just more of a hey, if
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  Speaker 5: my team is missing seventeen consecutive three pointers like his
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  Speaker 5: Houston Rockets died against the Golden State Warriors one game
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  Speaker 5: in the playoffs, I meaning Dwayne Wade, would have done something,
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  Speaker 5: whether it be a pump fake and get to the line,
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  Speaker 5: something to slow that down, something to keep my team afloat.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's not even a conversation who the best
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  Speaker 5: two guard is, although coming from me.
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  Speaker 3: That's going to be looked at as bias.
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  Speaker 5: But in this series, in these playoffs, Stu James Harden
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  Speaker 5: is officially officially in like Clayton Kershaw territory because when
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  Speaker 5: the playoffs come, he's an entirely different person. I think
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  Speaker 5: it's it's either four out of five or five straight
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  Speaker 5: games in these season where he had more turnovers than
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  Speaker 5: field Gold's made. And when you watch him play, he
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  Speaker 5: looks like he can't do anything out there, and then
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  Speaker 5: he takes out his frustration by getting mad at Assar Thompson,
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  Speaker 5: who is the most like innocent defender in the league.
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  Speaker 3: He's just a ridiculously good.
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  Speaker 5: Defender, but is not a smack talker, is not really
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  Speaker 5: somebody that really gets into arguments. James Harden, it is
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  Speaker 5: just laughable. It's laughable that we see this guy in
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  Speaker 5: the postseason and think because he goes between the legs
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  Speaker 5: ten times every time he dribbles, that he is some
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  Speaker 5: sort of effective basketball player. It's absolutely maddening to watch
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  Speaker 5: him play at this level.
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  Speaker 3: And you've got other people.
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  Speaker 5: I forget who it was, but somebody on a podcast
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  Speaker 5: recently just bragging, bragging about how James Harden would be
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  Speaker 5: out till four or five in the morning with Houston
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  Speaker 5: during his MVP days and then just come back to
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  Speaker 5: work the next day and drop sixty.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, imagine if he didn't.
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  Speaker 5: Do that like that, that's not something to, you know,
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  Speaker 5: to be proud of in your career. Oh, I could
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  Speaker 5: have been better, but I was out clubbing till fi
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  Speaker 5: in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: Like I know.
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  Speaker 5: People want to put that Michael Jordan thing. Oh he
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  Speaker 5: played golf till whatever hours of the day and still
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  Speaker 5: drop forty on a team. That I think is even
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  Speaker 5: a little bit more acceptable because you're at least doing
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  Speaker 5: some other sort of physical activity that is not drinking
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  Speaker 5: alcohol the whole time. It's just I don't know, it's
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  Speaker 5: it really gets to me how embarrassing that is for
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  Speaker 5: somebody who is supposed to be an all time great.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're really taking this one personally. It seems like,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you just like the disdain forgetting the conversation. Well,
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  Speaker 3: now it's amazing, Like, listen, this is how I do
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  Speaker 3: with three of thirteen. He's terrible in the postseason. Everything
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  Speaker 3: looks good until he starts shooting, and then it starts
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  Speaker 3: to look bad when it clanks off the rim because
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  Speaker 3: he's not good in the postseason. But is he somehow
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  Speaker 3: made it about Dwayne Wade, and God bless him, he
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  Speaker 3: loves Dwayne Wade. But I'm not certain anyone's having those conversations.
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  Speaker 3: And if Dwayne Wade is responding to any sort of
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  Speaker 3: conversation where someone is saying James Horden is better than
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  Speaker 3: he is, he shouldn't respond. His game did all.
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  Speaker 5: The talk, Dwayne Wade having the conversation, then people having
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  Speaker 5: the conversation.
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  Speaker 3: To stop having that conversation. It's a dumb conversation for
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  Speaker 3: Wade to have. Of course, he's better than James Arden,
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  Speaker 3: stop talking about it. Not you, Dwayne Wade know, and
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people would say James Harden is better.
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  Speaker 3: That's why it's a conversation. No one, no one, no
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  Speaker 3: one would say that. Who would say that?
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  Speaker 6: And if they did say it, they will not say it.
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  Speaker 6: After I read this stat here that I saw on
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  Speaker 6: NBA Reddit, I had a fact check this maybe forty
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  Speaker 6: times because it's that unbelievable. James Harden played his one
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  Speaker 6: hundred and eighty second career playoff game tonight with four
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  Speaker 6: turnovers and three made field goals. It was his forty
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  Speaker 6: six playoff game that he's had as many or more
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  Speaker 6: turnovers than made field goals. That's over twenty five percent
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  Speaker 6: of his career playoff games.
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  Speaker 3: Ye, like, hey, stat, I.
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  Speaker 5: Saw somebody say that he is now getting into It
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  Speaker 5: might have been Stephen A. The Russell Wilson conversation, are
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  Speaker 5: you playing your way out of maybe not the Hall
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  Speaker 5: of Fame but all time great conversations like it is
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  Speaker 5: just becoming painfully obvious.
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  Speaker 6: So the way Steven A. Smith worded it, STU, he said,
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  Speaker 6: James Harden's Hall of Fame status is on the verge
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  Speaker 6: of being revoked.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. Really, so he was in and now he's revoking
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  Speaker 3: his status. Wow, that's uh.
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  Speaker 6: A Smith had his card and it's it's on the
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  Speaker 6: verge of being taken away from years.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what the problem is is, yes, go ahead, No, No.
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  Speaker 5: The problem is is that we're obsessed with scoring in
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  Speaker 5: a way that maybe we weren't before, right, because there
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  Speaker 5: were times where we would see a guy have big
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  Speaker 5: scoring numbers and then just recognize, Okay, it's a little gimmicky.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's regular season quality, right, and effectiveness. But when
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  Speaker 5: you really like break it down or if you really
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  Speaker 5: defend it hard over the course of a seven game series,
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  Speaker 5: it's not going to be as effective.
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  Speaker 3: Because if you think.
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  Speaker 5: About what Harden's go tos are, it's step back three, which, again,
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  Speaker 5: even if he is the best in the league at it,
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  Speaker 5: percentage wise, not a great shot, and then drawing fouls
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  Speaker 5: when when getting too the rim, Well, if you're not
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  Speaker 5: drawing those fouls anymore, I mean, where are you going?
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  Speaker 5: What is your go to? How are you affecting the game.
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  Speaker 5: It's certainly not on defense, and it's certainly not with
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  Speaker 5: what like mid range pull ups. He just doesn't have that.
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  Speaker 5: He's a two level scorer effectively either threes or layups,
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  Speaker 5: and so it's just not effective come playoff time. And
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  Speaker 5: it's really frustrating to see whether it be all time
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  Speaker 5: Great conversations or people convincing themselves that he is going
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  Speaker 5: to be different with the Cleveland Cavaliers. When why are
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  Speaker 5: we convincing himself ourselves of this? We've seen enough evidence
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  Speaker 5: to the contrary.
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  Speaker 3: Steven A.
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  Speaker 7: Smith is the guy to revoke your NBA Hall of
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  Speaker 7: Fame card, right, Like he's the guy that gets to
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  Speaker 7: take it away from you Burg.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Bobara Doris maybe yeah, Jackie McMillen.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he think people ad of that's very Boston. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I mean I grew upbraiding them, so that the first
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  Speaker 3: name that came to mind. But is he? I don't
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  Speaker 3: mean to say this, like I'm not trying to upset you.
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  Speaker 3: Just who was having these conversations about James Harden being
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  Speaker 3: an all time great? That's where I mean, I could
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  Speaker 3: I could list them for you, but just just look
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  Speaker 3: at it.
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  Speaker 6: Does James Harden have this big fan base? Like I
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  Speaker 6: don't want to associate James Harden with with having like
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  Speaker 6: this devoted following that's going to defend James Harden to
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  Speaker 6: the end of the earth, because he seems like a
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  Speaker 6: tough player to kind of defend to the end of
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  Speaker 6: the earth. Like listener, Jalen Brunson is my guy. I
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  Speaker 6: will defend Jalen Brunson, so the end of time. But
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  Speaker 6: that's Knicks fan saying they'll defend Harden or Knicks fan
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  Speaker 6: saying they'll defend Brunson Brunton. Harden doesn't really have that
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  Speaker 6: team that he's really associated with anymore.
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  Speaker 5: There are people who suggest James Harden change the game forever,
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  Speaker 5: like they'll just show you the images of people defending
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  Speaker 5: him from the side from the side so that he
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't be able to do his you know, little step
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  Speaker 5: back move and everything else. And really, while that is
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  Speaker 5: is just James Harden perfecting the act of a like
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  Speaker 5: the referees, right, He's using the way the game is
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  Speaker 5: officiated to his benefit. And so therefore the other players
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  Speaker 5: were literally throwing their ends up in the air and saying,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what you want me to do. I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to try this crazy stuff over here, when really
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  Speaker 5: he wasn't this dynamic athlete or basketball player who was
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  Speaker 5: doing all of these amazing things. He basically took advantage
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  Speaker 5: of a couple of rules where you can't touch a shooter,
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  Speaker 5: and you know he's going to reach down and make
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  Speaker 5: you reach his arm and slap at his arm when
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  Speaker 5: he goes to the bucket and he's going to get
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  Speaker 5: his free throws.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 5: That's his power, that's his superpower. And when that's not
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  Speaker 5: going to be there all the time, he's going to
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  Speaker 5: look like a less than average player. That's not who
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  Speaker 5: you want leading your team.
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  Speaker 3: Those people are dumb. Who's ever saying that, Who's ever
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  Speaker 3: having these conversations? They're just I'm not saying they're not
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  Speaker 3: having those conversations. It's just I'd never thought of James
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  Speaker 3: Harden as an all time great. I'll never think of
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  Speaker 3: James Harden as an all time great. I think he
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  Speaker 3: would have been had a better chance of being an
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  Speaker 3: all time great. And Kevin Durant, by the way, if
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  Speaker 3: the three of them just stayed together, Westbrook, Durant, and Harden,
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  Speaker 3: if they somehow just stayed together, perhaps James Harden would
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  Speaker 3: be in the conversation of all time great. I just
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  Speaker 3: wasn't aware. And again, I don't say this to upset
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  Speaker 3: you that there's some weird James harden Colt who defends
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  Speaker 3: him at all cost. You know, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 6: One of the names mentioned for the Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 6: card status holder was Bob Ryan. And I have my
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  Speaker 6: I have my Twitter notifications on for anytime Bob Brian tweets,
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  Speaker 6: and once I heard the name Bob Brian, I was like,
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  Speaker 6: this is my land to talk a little Bob Bryan.
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  Speaker 6: Somebody tweeted a picture that said name a famous queen
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  Speaker 6: not named Victoria or Elizabeth, and Bob Bryan responded to
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  Speaker 6: the tweet and said, Latifa, get him on.
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  Speaker 3: It is classic, Bob. You're right. We used to do
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  Speaker 3: a segment called we used to have Bob on to
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  Speaker 3: explain his tweets because sometimes they're a bit all over
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  Speaker 3: the place, and Bob would come on, I'd read them
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  Speaker 3: to him, I'd read him to the audience, and then
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  Speaker 3: he would explain that what he was trying to say,
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  Speaker 3: go ahead, Taylor, but.
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  Speaker 6: We don't need any expl explanation there like that.
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  Speaker 3: That queer tea queen with queen.
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  Speaker 5: Bob Bryan has always had his thumb on the pulse
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  Speaker 5: of pop culture in the nineties, and that.
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  Speaker 3: Sweet should be on the Mount Rushmore of tweets. Seriously,
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  Speaker 3: that is a great job. It's so unsuspecting. From Bob
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  Speaker 3: Ryan speaking of Mount Rushmore's listen, Bordot Ricardo, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to Ai Colin here, Okay, I just want to let
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  Speaker 3: you know, so you take your eyes off the TV
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  Speaker 3: and stop watching soccer for a minute. The Mount Rushmore,
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  Speaker 3: according to Ai Colin of New York Knicks, four.
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  Speaker 4: Of New York Knicks starts with Patrick Ewing fifteen years franchise, Cornerstone, the.
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  Speaker 3: Face of the Garden.
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  Speaker 4: Then I'm going Walt Clyde, Fraser, Willis Reid, and I'll
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  Speaker 4: put Jalen Brunson on it right now because he's already
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  Speaker 4: shacking forty point nights and dragging them through big moments, Tess,
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  Speaker 4: the mixed titles, Legacy, and the Modern Engine.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I think Ai Colin might be a victim to recency bias.
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  Speaker 5: Also had mellow, probably no.
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  Speaker 3: Not necessarily mellow. Bernard King. Yeah, I gotta go Bernard King.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look, while we were talking to Greene yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: I spend most of the time just looking at Bernard
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  Speaker 5: King's stats.
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  Speaker 3: That dude was good talk about the king. He should
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  Speaker 3: have been a chosen one, right.
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  Speaker 6: I also have another I also have another athlete if
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  Speaker 6: they were named after a designer brand. What okay, what
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  Speaker 6: is this right, Jeff Giorgio Armani's.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have demos lea fornoun step wrong? I'm so stupid.
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  Speaker 3: Eight seven seven for the Herd eight seven seven for
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  Speaker 3: the Herd is by the way, st I also believe
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  Speaker 3: that no, I'm going to run right through this.
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  Speaker 5: I also believe that James Harden is going to ruin
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  Speaker 5: these cavaliers.
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  Speaker 3: He's gonna ruin these cavaliers.
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  Speaker 5: Donovan Mitchell is already not like the vocal like raw ra,
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  Speaker 5: let's go leader, and then James Harden is definitely not
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  Speaker 5: that right, So if James Harden is playing like poo poo,
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  Speaker 5: you're not gonna see Donovan Mitchell go after him. In fact,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw this after the game
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  Speaker 5: where Donovan Mitchell is like, We're not worried.
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  Speaker 3: He's James Harden. That's exactly why you should be worried.
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  Speaker 5: Like, honestly, if I'm the coach there, I'm probably lessening
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  Speaker 5: his minutes to like twenty four, twenty two, and then
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  Speaker 5: just see what happens, because it's pretty obvious when you
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  Speaker 5: continually have more turnovers than field goals made, you should
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  Speaker 5: not be the point guard.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor put it on the pole. Does is he care
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  Speaker 3: about James Harden more than any other person on the planet.
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  Speaker 5: I've never cared about a Cleveland Cavaliers basketball playoff series.
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  Speaker 3: More than this one because of James Harden. So I
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  Speaker 3: mean I'm looking up. Yeah, go ahead, Taylor, go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: As a Yankee fan, to me, what this feels like,
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  Speaker 6: is I am hyper aware to any time anybody says
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  Speaker 6: anything about Derek Jeter to where if I'll like just
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  Speaker 6: be walking down the street and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 6: my spidy senses start tingling, being like, I could I
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  Speaker 6: know somebody right now in Boston on Weei is talking
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  Speaker 6: about Derek Jeter not being that great of a defender.
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  Speaker 3: Right Taylor, I know we were talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 3: wrong place, wrong time, kind of hall of fame, right place,
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  Speaker 3: right time. Taylor, leave the room for a second. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: just if you wouldn't mind, because I want to ask
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  Speaker 3: these guys a question. Don't you dare here?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: Because because I do believe, like with Draymond Green, I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking about this. Michael Irvin once told me, really
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: thinking about Draymond Green a lot the last twenty four hours.
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  Speaker 3: I really have because I don't listen. I've been thinking
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  Speaker 3: about his career and whether or not I would like
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  Speaker 3: to have his career. But but, but, Draymond Green is
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  Speaker 3: not a guy if you placed him, if he was
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  Speaker 3: drafted by the Hornets. Okay, there's no way that Draymond
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  Speaker 3: Green has the career that he's had. So he landed
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  Speaker 3: right place, right time. Okay. Michael Irvin used to tell
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  Speaker 3: me that there were guys who win championships, and there
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  Speaker 3: are guys who win those guys championships, meaning the reason
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: they have rings is because of guys like Michael Jordan.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: And there's a big, big difference. Now, basketball is a
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: different sport. You're playing five at a time. One guy
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: is as important in that sport than any other sport. So, Taylor,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: I need you to leave the room for a second
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: when I ask these guys this question, because I want
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: them to guess what your reaction is going to be. Okay,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: he's gone, Derek Jeter if he goes to the Pirates, Okay,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: right place, right time, Mikey's gonna get mad at me
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: already see it. But if Derek Jeter plays out his
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: entire career with the Pittsburgh Pirates, we do not think
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: of Derek Jeter the way we do today. Is that fair?
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Do you think Taylor Judian after that? Yes, is right place,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: right time? Hall of Fame. Yes, I'm saying if he
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: played for the Pirates, he would not be Derek Jeter
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: how he would be. But you know what I'm saying,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: I think Taylor will divorce you on the spot. I
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: think it's you that and maybe Izzy that's no company.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: No company, No Taylor company is leaving now, the VIP
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: room gone.
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you what happens if Derek Jeter was a pirate.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Wait, how'd you get back in? Jason, We're supposed to
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: be listening.
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: Jason Kendall becomes Joorge Pisada, Oliver Perez becomes Andy Pettitt.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: The pieces around Derek Jeter, Derek Jeter is an elevator.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: Everybody around Derek Jeter gets better. Aramas Ramirez today is
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: a Hall of Famer. If Derek Jeter was a pirate.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Right, terrible person to choose Derek Jeter of all.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: People's the worst one.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: No, it's no, it is guys, Come on serious. If
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Derek Jeter was if he came up in the Pirate's
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: farm system and played his entire career for Pittsburgh, you
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: think Jeter's good enough where Pittsburgh would have won World Series?
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: What are you crazy? Tell you? I'll tell you another thing.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Not only good, but Jim Leland was the manager of
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Pirates in nineteen ninety six, which.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Was Derek Jeter's rookie year. Okay, with the Yankees.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: If Jim Leland had been managing Derek Jeter as a rookie,
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: he never would have left Pittsburgh, never would have gotten
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: to Florida, never would have won a World Series with
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: the Marlins.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, he would have stayed there. He would have stayed
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: there and managed Derek Jeter for the entirety of his career.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: Brian Giles would be Bernie Williams.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: What are you guys? So wait, what do you do
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: with the Pirate? So the Pirates would be the Yankees.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: There would be a monument park out at Pittsburgh Stadium right.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: Now where I'm actually sitting there flipping through the seasons
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: of Pittsburgh starting in ninety six, not a five hundred
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: season among them. And so yeah, Derek Jeter would have
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: turned this into more than a respectable organization.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Again, remember David Wells. Yeah, pirates had Kip Wells. He
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: becomes a sad thing.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Seriously, a couple of Wells cutting it up.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and now I'm looking at two thousand and nine
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: to see if he would have won the World Series
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: with those Pittsburgh Pirates Man sixty two and ninety nine
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: would have had a lot of.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Work to do, right, That's what I'm saying. One guy
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: does not make up that difference, not in that sport,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: not when you're playing nine guys. AT's does it work
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: like that?
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, come on to suggest that Derek Jeter is
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: in the right place, right time.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame might be one of your worst takes. No,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: it's not, no tate Derek Jeter off the Yankees. Okay,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: he goes it's the right place at the right time,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: that's all. He was its right place, right tight, that's all.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: But I could have picked about a dozen organizations that
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: would have been the right place for the right time
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: for that guy.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Because that guy is that good, right do you agree
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Scotty Pippen right place, right time, Yes, yes, right, like
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Scotty Pippen goes to the LA Clippers and he's not
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Scotty Pippen. That's what I'm saying.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: He's not in the right place, right place, right time,
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: hall of Fame because I still think he would have
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: had a Hall of Fame career. It might have been
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: fringe as opposed to automatic first ballot Hall of Famer,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: but he still would have been a five to six
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: maybe seven time All Star, great defender, probably would have
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: had a Hall of Fame career for himself.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: So every year would have been similar to the year
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: he played without Jordan, where they get to the Eastern
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Conference semi finals. He was still a very good player.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: He was in the conversation that year. Yeah for sure, MVP.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, that's fair. But Jeter to the Royals,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, I mean, what do you guys?
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: All right? Me back to nineteen ninety six Royals and
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: see what they were doing. Do the Pirates playing pinstripes?
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Like what are we doing? I don't understand serious.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: We would have got pinstripes added to the Pirates uniform
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: Pittsburgh and pirates would have stood for pinstripes.
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  Speaker 3: Coming away, all right, I have a question for you
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: guys before we get to OK see in the Lakers
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: interesting that the Lakers feel like the refs have it
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: in for him. We'll get to that in just a second.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Lebron was great again. I gotta tell you, I watch,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: even as they lose by eighteen every time I watched Lebron,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: and I'm marvel I did that. He's doing this at
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: this age. It's pretty impressive. But the question I have
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: for you, guys is I played a sound from you
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: sound for you about a month ago of Tom Ronaldi
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: right before the Masters, talking telling a story about how
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: he was invited by a guest to play at Augusta
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: and he could bring somebody with him, and the first
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: call he made was to his brother. Now his brother
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: worked for the government. He couldn't get the day off,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: he couldn't make it down to Augusta to play in
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: the round. So Tom took a friend who was you know,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: at a very desperate time in his life, and it
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: was healing for his friend, but his brother couldn't go.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: And then Tom told us later on that his brother
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: was upset. And you know, me and mikey A made
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: frond of his brother, because when you get the call
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: to play Augusta, you drop everything you do, you're doing,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: and you go play that course. You go play Augusta,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: you go play where they play the Masters. That's what
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: you have to do. I don't care what your job is. Quit.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: So we had that story. Then we had the story
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: yesterday of Mike gree Quit, of Mike Greenberg. Okay, he
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: was offered two court side seats and he called his son,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: and his son couldn't make it home for the game.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: And to make matters worse, Greedy took his daughter and
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: the daughter was shaking hands with Challamet and Jay Z
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: and all the celebrities who were sitting courtside at the nexday.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: But we all know the sun was really really upset.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: And so I am asking you, guys, which one is worse,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: the son not being able to sit courtside for nick
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Sixers with his dad court side next to Jay Z
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: with his dad for a game against the Sixers of
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: the postseason, or Ronaldi's brother not being able to make
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: it down to Augusta to play that course.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Uh me, personally, it's way worse to miss out on
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: the court side Knicks playoff experience number one, because I
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: don't care how many azaleas there are.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Golf is frustrating for me.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: I will tear that course apart just out of frustration,
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: more so than I will have a lovely time and
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: so and you know with the next thing, there's also
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: evidence that you were.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: There, right.
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, there's an easy answer to this and it's not.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Hm. The easy answer is.
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: Sorry, here's an easy answer to this, and it's not
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: what iz he said. There's an amount of money you
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: can pay to sit court side at any game. There
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: isn't an amount of money you can pay without knowing
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: somebody to play Augusta. Yes, Like, if I empty my
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: savings account and take out a loan, I can go
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: sit court side at the next next game. But I
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: can't get on at Augusta this week.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: Why am I harassing somebody just to be frustrated for
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: four hours straight? Like again, I don't care how pretty
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: the flowers are or the greens are.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I'm taking a Knicks game.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: I'm busy on this one because I am not. No,
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: I love golf. I absolutely love golf.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: You practices his golf swing in front of the elevator
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: pretty much every day.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: If you told me, hey, you could play Augusta five
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: years from now or sit at a court side seat
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: at a Knicks game, I'm true playing Augusta five years
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: from now, and then the next five years I'm going
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: to be training like I'm prime Tiger Woods for Augusta.
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: I don't want to go to Augusta and shoot up
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you played Augusta. It's a once in a
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: lifetime experience. And as Mikey said, you can time experience.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I shot two hundred. So what But Taylor, you don't
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: get five months to prepare. You're not on the PGA tour.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: When someone calls and says come play Augusta, you don't
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: have any time to prepare.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: You quit win your job. You go play the chords.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, when you're done with the round, what do
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: people ask you? Stud how'd you shoot it? And if
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: you're shot at two hundred, me wrong?
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: No, prove me wrong. So if you remember the story
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: that Ronaldi told about the friend that he took His
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: friend played terribly, but he didn't care. He was playing
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Augusta and it was life changing for him. It was
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: healing for him. Yeah, I'm not that hurt. I don't
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: need that much healing. I'm goodly. That is Mikey Mikey thought.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: So.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I spoke to Mikey about this before the show started,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: and I was with him obvious answer. Everyone's going to
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: say Augusta and yet here we are divided. That's what
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: sports radio is all about. We can't have goodsensus. We
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: have to be.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: I'm taking that Knicks court side game and I'm looking
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: over at Shalo May and I'm doing one of these
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: like you and me, You and me, and I'm signaling
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: jersey swap because i want that jacket he was wearing
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: so badly. It's not gonna look good on me, but
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: I want it. I'll be playing celebrities doing jersey swaps
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: after the game.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I'd watch that, Uh would you? Why? Well, mostly because
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: they're gonna take their shirts off in front of people.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: I'm an irrational confidence as a Knicks fan and just
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: somebody in the younger stages of my life being thirty two.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: If I met Timothy Shallomey. I think me and him
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: would be friends like me currently him currently him being
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: one of the biggest celebrities in on Earth. I think
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: we would connect over our love for the Knicks so
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: much that like he'd be like, you want to you
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: want to come to this after already today Sabrina Carpenter's
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: even even some of the Knicks can't get on that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: List hit on the Garden Floor.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: No.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: I think Taylor's right. You're friends by association, meaning if
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: you're sitting in the front row, everyone thinks you're a celebrity,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: you're important, you mean something, And I think you could
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: parlay that experience into being friends and tricking Chalo May
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: into thinking that you're actually important and as famous as
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: he is. I did.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: I don't want to give anybody any ideas, but I
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: would absolutely watch sort of a buddy cop movie with
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: Ben Stiller and Timothy Shalomy and the premises they're both
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: great detectives also huge Knicks fans.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I would watch it and Taylor would probably have a
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: cameo because they connect that way.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: I love that Taylor thinks that like he's the only
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: other Knicks fan for Timmy to Chalomey to connect to.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: No because Stu, you know, growing up listening to wfan,
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: like some of those hosts became actual friends with people
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: in the market, or like like wfan hosts are friends
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: with Sin Elder, w F a n host our friends
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: with people of that stature. I don't think it's crazy
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: to say that if Timothy shallow May heard me talk
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: about the Knicks and was like, man, this guy's kind
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: of funny. He's kind of got some charactermatic charm to him.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: His girlfriend gets along with Kylie very well charismatic.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: So you're talking about the relationship that Steve Summers has
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: with Jerry Seidefelm and thinking you could do the same
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: with Timothy Shallamet Salakata.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: I love how Taylor is such a pure sports fan
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: that when he's not watching the sports he loves, he's
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: fantasizing about hanging out with celebrity fans of the sports
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: he loves.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I agree with Taylor. I do think himmy
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Shallome would get along. I really do.
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: Stu saw me in Tahoe. There's a switch I could
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: flip when I have to be overly confident to be
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: like buddy buddy with people me and me and Vince
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: Carter were holding court for you know, I saw in
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: Super Bowl week Stu came back and he was like, Hey,
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: did you get Vince Carter on the show? What show?
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: He was holding court with Vince Carter while I was
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: hosting the show by myself. Didn't bother ask Vince to
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: come on the show. Became friends with Vince, but never
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: got Vince on the show. He was josted. Colin Jose
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: is always out in Lake Tahoe, and I told Taylor
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: be careful because when guys say hey, I'll be right over,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: and that means they're never coming over to the table.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: So stand by him and stay with him. But Taylor
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: is a different person, like I'm telling you, when he
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: has a microphone in front of it, in front of
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: his face, he's more confident when he works a room
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: and it's the most famous room in sports. I am
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: telling you right now that Lake Tahoe room the night
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: before the tournament starts is as famous a sports room
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: and celebrity room as you'll ever walk in. You have,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: you know, sixty seventy celebrities all in one place, and
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I am telling you is he This is going to
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: be shocking to both of you that Taylor worked that
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: room the way I would work that room. It was
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: amazing to see.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Exactly all I'm asking for is the one on one
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: time with Shalla May. Just just get me in the meeting.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: Let me give him my elevator pitch on why I
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: think I would be a great friend to him. This
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: is the same kid who the Knicks were doing like
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: ticket giveaways. It was Landry Fields and Andy Rautins, the
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: Syracuse Sharpshooter they were doing. They were doing ticket giveaways like, Hey,
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: the first fans that could find us here at Grand
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: Central are gonna win these tickets. And it was like
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: a seven. It was like a ten year old Timothy
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: shallow May winning these tickets. Like Timothy shallow May is
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: as diehard a Knicks fan as a celebrity Knicks fan
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: can get. And I'm just saying that we would have
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: that one common thing to bond. Justin Bieber is another
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: person that I kind of have this this thought with
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: because we were both born March first, nineteen ninety four,
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: so I were added.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: I think Tina Fey and I would get along famously. Tina,
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: if you want to hang out at any given time,
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: that'd be amazing.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: He's an introd, proven run I stay with him. Get
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Justin Bieber over here, proven run STU.
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: If I walked up to Justin Bieber and and my
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: my icebreaker was hey, I pull out my ID. Yeah,
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: and he looks at my ID and he sees March first,
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: nineteen ninety four, his exact birthday down to the year.
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: Connection would be like, oh, connection point, here we go. Yes,
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: it's a conversation that is, we have the same birthday.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: Me and ad Nan have the same birthday. It's aw,
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: we became friends. I mean, I'm not gonna impressed, no, not, no,
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: not at all. My point is it's a connection point
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: that led to a friendship.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. And I believe in Taylor and
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: his ability to make connection points and then become friends
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: with that I do. And then once they really get
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: to know him and realize he doesn't have much to say,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: perhaps the friendship dissolves from there.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think, if you're sitting at a table
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: with Justin Bieber and Timothy Shallo, may it might be
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: the most fame currently, the most famous table in the world.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Taylor, And I think I think if you if
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: I was sitting at a table with Charalamaine Bieber, I
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: would not be so out of place where somebody would
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: be like, who's that guy? Well, people would say who's
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: that guy just because they don't know me, but they
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: would be like, that guy is somebody right?
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: One seed, one court side seat at Madison Square Garden,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Bieber or Shalome who gets it? That's not even close by?
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Waylime is? How about Stiller or Bieber? It's still kill
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: It shouldn't be Stiller though, I mean he was at
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: the Met gallon right, And seriously.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: Don't question Ben Stiller's nicks bona fides. This Ben's Ben
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: Stiller is the fan who's like, oh, Kevin Knox just
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: looked really great in Game seven of Summer League, Like
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: like Ben Stiller, people are giving him a hard time
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: for missing Game one and going to the Met Gala.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: I will not say a bad word about Ben. So
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: I would love for Ben Stower to get on the show.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: Maybe Hank's area, if you.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Get him, maybe he could, yes, maybe yes, he could
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: introduce you to Timothy Shallomey Hank's area. You could. By
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: the way, I.
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  Speaker 5: Think it might be the most famous person that was
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: born on June twenty sixth, nineteen seventy seven.
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  Speaker 3: There's no way, it's impossible. There's no way. I'm gonna
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: drop some names on her. You tell me if you
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: know them. Cubo, oh, I love t Yes, Mark jin
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: drag j Yeah, Jinny Riccardo knows him. But do you
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: know me more?
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: You do?
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Hey? Posa poser? And then Quincy Lewis, who apparently played
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: in the NBA, who had That's what his friends called.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: The funny thing is, while I might be the most
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: famous person, I somehow didn't make this list that I
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: that I googled.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: So maybe not. I might never get to I might
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: never get to Oklahoma City and the Lakers, because I
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: have another question. If you're Greedy and you have two
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: court side seats, and you have a family of four,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: and everyone's available to go to the game, what do
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: you do? Who do you invite? So he has a son,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: he has a daughter, and he has a wife, but
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: he has two takes, and Greedy made it very clear
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: that he was using one of those two tickets. There
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: was no way he was giving them to his son
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: and his daughter to go to the game together. Greenie
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: was going, So what do you do with that other
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: ticket because I like where Greenie was thinking, because this
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: is what I would do. Find somebody, anybody. In fact,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: this is the first call I would make, because I
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: wouldn't want to decide between Emma or Rachel. Okay, and
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Abby's out of the equation. She has no interest in
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: going to that game. The first call I would make, Okay,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: I would hire a sales team to do this for me,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: is find somebody that could do something for me that
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I couldn't do, access to something I wouldn't normally have
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: access to unless I took this guy, this person to
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: the next game. It's that court side. It would be
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: a member at Augusta. I'm telling you, I would hire
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: a sales staff of fifteen people to cold call until
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: we found the guy that I wanted.
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: You're auctioning off the ticket for favors.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Yes, s finding hilarious and Stu Gatz has spent the
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: last twenty four hours thinking about Draymond green and Mike Greenberg.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: So look at to yesterday's games. Tomorrow today we got
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: to talk about yesterday's topics. But Stu, to answer your question,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: if I was in Greenee scenario, there it's a tough
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: one man. It is the kids are out of.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: The question, because I think Greeney is right that you
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: can't split the kids up and give preferential treatment unless
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: one of them is like a very die hard Knicks
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: fan and the other really doesn't have much interest. But
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: it sounds like when you're raised in the Greeney household,
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: everybody loves sports, and that's I would expect nothing less
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: from the green You.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: Have to pick one kid, you pick no kids, exactly,
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: take another adult. They'll understand.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: So, Stu, what I would do is I would look
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: up who is on the cast of Get Up the
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: next day and choose who I would want to spend
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: the most time with. Like, if I'm looking at maybe
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: it's Dan Orlovsky, Dan Graziano and Dominique Foxworth. I'm looking
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: at that list and saying Dominiqu would probably be the
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: best hanging out of those three.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he declined it easy, Yeah, easy one.
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• 36:38
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• 36:43
  Speaker 3: House School of Broadcasting. Isy. What'd you make of the Lakers?
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: By the way, I want to get to some sound
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: here of Bill Simmons in just a second. But what'd
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: you make of the Lakers complaining here about the referees
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: last night? They go down two to Oklahoma City. I
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: thought the Lakers played well, and yet Oklahoma City. He's
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: still one by eighteen boys. I'm gonna sneak this in here.
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• 37:23
  Speaker 5: What I made of that game yesterday, Stu, was that
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: it's not just the Lakers who are upset with the
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: officiating against Okac. It's every team that plays against Okac
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: and they're upset with the officiating. And what happens when
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: this happens, Stu, is now everything becomes an issue. It's
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: us against them, It's the Lakers versus the refs. And
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: then you had a situation yesterday late in the game
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: on a jump ball where Austin Reeves was effectively yelled
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: at by John Goebel, I believe, the lead ref in
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: that game, and Austin took that as a version as
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: a measure of disrespect and then went to his face afterward.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: And now it's very much in us versus them situation.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: And what I wonder about this do is like when
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: people say it is the referees that are affecting this
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: series or affecting every single series that Okay see plays in,
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: what reasoning after everything we've talked about, the NBA not
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: wouldn't love this team? Right zzz plus, as Taylor says,
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: this team leads the league in ZZZ plus. Shake guil
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: Just Alexander has already reached the pinnacle? Right does does
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: the NBA fan you know, do the NBA fans want
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: to see him continue to succeed?
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: And they're really kind of angry because they feel like
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: he foubates. So why would it, like, why would it
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: be beneficial for the officials, for the league, for anybody
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: to favor Okac in these games, to give Shake guil
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Just Alexander these calls or to not make these calls
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: against Lou Dohort or you know, Alex Caruso. Why and
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: so either Okac is just doing an amazing job of
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: effectively baiting these referees in the same way that I
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: just complained James Harden used to do. Or yeah, everybody's
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: crazy or everybody's crazy and just looking for a reason
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: to complain about this team because they don't like watching
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: them play. I'm just confused by why they think the
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: officials would do that, because if I'm the NBA, I'm
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: telling the officials, hey, don't give them those calls.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: We don't want to win again. Yeah, acting like, yeah,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: you're suggesting those conversations happen. Fans think those everybody thinks
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: that conversations happened. Taylor, Why were you smirking there, because
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: he's right? Why would the NBA? Why would the referees?
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Why would anyone want Oklahoma City to advance over the Lakers.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: No one would, I mean nobody.
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: Especially against a team like the Lakers and Lebron And
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: if the Lakers make it past this series, you have
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: the Luca factor coming back in. What I was laughing
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: at is Ai Colin. I wanted to ask Ai Colin
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: about the Thunder Lakers game to get his thoughts on
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: that action.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: That game, too, was the Thunder telling you we're the
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: grown ups here. They win one twenty five to one
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: oh seven and shake Gilles Alexander. It doesn't even have
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: to be superman. Chen Holmgren gives you twenty two. And
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: the scary part is they took control in that third quarter,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: even with shay in foul trouble thirty two to fifteen.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: While he's sitting, Austin.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Reeves drops thirty one, and it still doesn't matter because
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: without Luka Doncic, the Lakers just don't have enough creation
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: for four quarters.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Where are we even here? Man? Why can't we just
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: run him? Why it's his hurt, right, yea? Just have
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: that do the show for you. I mean, Jesus, I'm.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: Sorry if you have a DeAndre Ayton, which who often
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: looks like a confused big man against very good defensive teams,
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: is giving you three points one for seven shooting, and
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: you're complaining about the officiating.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Like, I get it.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Everybody wants to see the thunder get put in their place.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: Nobody wants to see foul baiting get rewarded. Nope, But
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: then do it better, you.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Know what I mean?
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: Like, I get that whole complaint stuff, but you're not
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: in position to really complain right now. Granted it's because
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: you know your best player is out and you just
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: don't really match up with this team at all, But
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: it gets a little tired, and I just don't love
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: the complaining within the series when you're clearly overmatched.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: I want to ask Ai another question here before we
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: go to break, and Jeff pass is going to join us,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: because it's a debate that we've been having since the
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: beginning of sports radio, and it's going to be the
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: last segment I do on sports Radio. On my final show,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I will end the show having this debate. And I
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: don't care how long it is from now, Like if
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: it's twenty years from now, I'll still be having this debate.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to make it twenty years. What am
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I talking about? Right? Okay? So I want to get listen.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: It's the debate. I would say. Number two on the
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: list is Marino Montana. Number one on the sports radio
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: list of debates is Michael Jordan versus Lebron Ai Colin
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: take it away.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Michael Jordan is the greatest peak the sports ever seen,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: six for six in the finals, and when the moment
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: got tight, he turned games into personal property. Lebron James
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: is the greatest career we've ever seen longevity production, and
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: he just passed Jordan with his five hundred and sixty
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: third regular season thirty point game, even if it took
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: him a lot more games to get there. So if
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: you want the scariest guy for one series, one season, one.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Last shot, it's Jordan.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: If you want the best twenty year investment, it's Lebron.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: That's the split peak versus lifespan, dominance versus durability.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: He's a quack. That's how you do it.