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Foster and Friends Vol 154 "The Senator" Part 2 · Foster and Friends

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_01: This is Foster and Friends with former coach Bud Foster and his co-host Matt McDonald.
• 0:10
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• 0:54
  SPEAKER_10: And there's an excitement in college football, particularly.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's part two of the Senator with George Allen.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_02: We'll get to that in a few minutes.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_02: Looking forward to that.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: We're also, I'm gonna, uh Bud and I are gonna try to break down what is the you know, what are the rules in celebration.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the Texas, the whole Texas story really angered me.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: It angered me, but I shouldn't be getting mad in college football.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_02: I and Sarkasian, I thought he treated it lightly, you know.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, long story.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_02: Before we do all of that football talk and get to George Allen, what a tournament you had on Monday.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_02: So congratulations to your committee, uh, your Ken Cadens, your, you know, Christine's, your Kim's, your Jeff Mitchell's, your people that are on your board.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_02: It is a fabulous thing you do, not only for your foundation, but what an event on Monday.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_02: Congrats to the Hermitage staff, but apparently, you know, your staff and everybody that I don't think I've ever seen a 40 team tournament like you had.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: It was just uh it was very special.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_02: So congratulations.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_08: Well, thank you.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_08: And you know, uh more importantly, thank you for coming and MC in the uh the event for us.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_08: But I'm glad you got to see it.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, but I tell you, you're I mean, obviously you're a pro.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_08: Uh, but uh, you know, it was uh I hope you had fun, but more fun of great.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_08: Number two, like you said, uh I'm very fortunate to have a great team.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_08: You know, you're only as good as the people you surround yourself with, and you know, you've heard that for years, but that's any organization, and I'm blessed to have a great group.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_08: They're rock stars in their own industry.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_08: I know we've had a couple of them on our show in the past, but uh yeah, Hermitage Country Club is a great place for us to have it.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_08: It's centrally located for us to attract people from northern Virginia, from the Tidewater, from Southwest Virginia, uh, besides Central Virginia.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_08: But um then to have two 18-hole golf courses side by side.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I mean, and you know, you can play uh you can play a captain's choice golf tournament in you know three and a half to four hours.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_08: And uh, you know, how some of these you've been in them, and I've been in them, you get in there where it might be 36 teams, you try to squeeze 36 teams on 18 holes.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_08: It's like a marathon.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_08: It's like, my God, when's this gonna end?
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_08: But uh, I think that makes it a fun experience.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_08: And then obviously the time of year that we play in Richmond is is uh we've we've had this tournament the like the last week, last Monday in September for the last three years now.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_08: And it's incredible weather this time of the year, you know, generally.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_08: And we've been able to avoid anything.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_08: But uh yeah, it's just it was a great tournament.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_08: We raised a bunch of money, you know, it's it's you know, it's all gonna go back to you know supporting young people in the communities, and and uh we're we're extremely proud of what we're doing and and appreciate everyone because it's an it takes an army to do that.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_08: It's just not our board, it takes the people that want to give and feel strongly about what we're doing and the impact we're making.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_08: And that's the part that's rewarding to me that to see so many uh people supporting us and our cause, and and it's a win-win all the way around.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, for for them and for the young people, um, you know, the resources we're allowing them to have.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_02: Of all the four, I mean the former players, I had more fun, you know, meeting, of course, fun meeting everybody, but the the the former players that uh, you know, the Ken Oxen Dynes and the Deshaze, I mean, they were just all just super.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_02: And in a couple weeks, and hopefully next week, Donnie Simpson, who was part of Remember the Titans, we had a 30-minute talk about the movie, his career.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and he ends up telling me that he he dated the the daughter of the assistant coach and remember the coach Yost, okay.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_02: Coach Yost, yeah.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: He did, and it's just once what so anyway.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_02: I told Donnie, I said, Donnie, you gotta do our show.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_02: You have to do our show and tell the story about because because he said 90% of Remember the Titans was correct.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there were a couple of little things, but you know, and now I'm gonna go back and watch the movie with uh Denzel.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_02: And uh it was just anyway, it was it just a special night all the way around.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_02: That was before the golf tournament, and of course, uh, you know, a couple of crazy guys too.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_02: But that's what happens with football alumni, as you well know.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_02: The stories, the stories are bigger and better than they ever really were when they happened.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_02: But boy, they you know, that's a great time.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_08: You know, that's the cool thing for me.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_08: You know, I've been here 40 years, and then obviously the era of Coach Beamers guys.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, you're talking about the Claiborne era, some of the guys that even were Jimmy, then Jimmy Sharp and um that group, then obviously Coach Dooleys, uh, because we had several from there, but then kind of going before like a Donnie Simpson.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_08: But then to have our players that were our first signing class, there was a lot of those guys there, as you know, Nick Cullins involved with that, but then having guys up to most recent guys, and it's just cool to get all these generations of uh of of former players together.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_08: You know what?
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_08: And the stories are all the same still, too.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_08: It's kind of every year they but like you said, they get embellished a little bit more, every year they're a little bit better, you know.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_08: So, but it's it's uh it was fun.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_08: I'm glad you got a chance to experience that.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_08: And uh I hope you had fun with it too.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, being you know, I I tried we tried to make fun with you being the you know a former Wahoo announcer, but like I said, I think you only got one boo, and that was yeah, and that was from Christine who's on your committee, and she admitted it to me, so it was pretty fun.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it was fun, and every you know, they respect it, they talked, we talked, but mostly I just said, uh, hey, I've been with Bud since 04, and then that changed everything.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_02: Once I said, hey, you know, bud and I have been together since oh, you know, as friends since 04.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_02: We've been we're in our fourth year of the of the radio show, and uh, yeah, it was uh, but it was it was good.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_02: We'll have more on that a little later.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go to break, we'll come back because Bud's got some splaining to do for me and some teaching.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna do that.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_02: Uh George Allen is uh back with us.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: This is part two of the uh the senator that we didn't get a chance to run because we ended up talking to George for over an hour.
• 7:39
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• 8:53
  SPEAKER_06: It's a 15-mock feeling spot.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_06: We took them out, we addressed it, and put them back in.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_06: You know, I mean, at that point, you know, I mean, I'm not I'm not gonna give the guy the death penalty, right, over unsports-like conduct penalty.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_06: We gotta fix it though, right?
• 9:07
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• 9:09
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• 9:12
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• 9:19
  SPEAKER_02: You heard the call and you heard uh Steve Caucasian uh post- that was post-game, uh, right afterwards after the uh Texas win over Tennessee.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_02: The reason I'm bringing this to the table before George Allen before we get into uh the college football playoff in the NCAA with with George in part two of the senator.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_02: But will you explain to me how we're letting now the college kids?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_02: I thought the celebration rules were done a few years ago.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_02: Didn't the NCAA release the thing saying we will stand by these and flags were flying everywhere, if I remember right, a couple of years ago.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you couldn't do anything.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_02: Let's dial back quickly.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_02: You touched on it a couple of weeks ago.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_02: VMI first game with with uh James Franklin, and he had a little critical because one of your guys went and high-five the guard and got a core cadets, yeah.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and got a and got a got a f a flag, right?
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, for sportsman-like conduct, yeah.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_08: You know, and they scored a touchdown, gave the ball to the official, and then the core sets right there on the jumped into him when they entered the field from inner sand man.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_08: And they he just ran by and high-five the guys, you know, kind of bop, bop, bop, bop, slapped them and and went and celebrated with his teammates, and they threw a flag.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_08: Now, there is the rule has not changed.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, the college football players are not allowed to celebrate.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_08: Whether you like that rule or not, um, you know, I'm I'm always been for it.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_08: We've always really demanded our players uh give the ball to the official, the first thing they do, and then go find their teammates because somebody had to block for them, you know, somebody had to make the throw for you to catch the ball, somebody had to make the sack that you scoop and scored.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_08: You know, there it's it's it's it's a team game, and you know, and yeah, there's some great plays that yeah, I deserve somebody kind of going out there and give me a little shimmy or something.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_08: But you know, right now what the things that you know were totally inappropriate and um by what some of what Texas players were doing, and then um and then you know, some around the the the country.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_08: And I think it's different leagues.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_08: I will say this, and you know, I've always thought the ACC uh was a tremendously well officiated group.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_08: I think they're they're they're I think they're an outstanding group of officials.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_08: Um and and you know, you see them in big games.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, that's not what they're thought of, you know, they're they're coach they're they're officiating the national championship games and doing a lot.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_08: You see that those crews doing that.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_08: But I just think it's different from league to league what they are um you know allowed to do.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_08: Allowing them, yeah, and it and really they shouldn't be allowed to do anything.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, when it's all said and done.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, you're supposed to be penalized if you're running untouched and you just leap into the end zone.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_08: What you know, you're not allowed to do now.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_08: If you're running for and a guy's getting ready to tackle you and you do that, but you know, there's nothing that's supposed to allow, you know, uh demonstration for yourself, you know, it's supposed to be all about the team.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: So you want to hear you want to hear the guidelines real quick?
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: You want to hear the guidelines?
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_02: All right, you're gonna love this because it was Colin Simmons or Relique Brown.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_02: I and I was so irked at Sarkassian's reaction because I thought he'd downplay.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, um, normal team enthusiasm and quick teammate acknowledgements are allowed.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: Heavily choreographed group routines are penalized.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_02: Any gesture directed toward an opponent meant to mock them or designed to draw individual attention rather than celebrate teamwork will draw a flag.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_02: Actions like fake weapon simulations and violent gestures, throat slashes are strictly prohibited.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, no helmet removal on the field, throat slashes, face swipes, weapon simulations, on and on and on.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: And it goes, so what what just irked me was you know, Colin Simmons doing the bathroom act, as the uh the official explained, and then Ralique Brown had a celebration too that was similar similar.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Sarkeesian in his weekly press conference said, Okay, we we took care of it.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_05: That's not who we are as a team, and that that behavior is unacceptable.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, I've met with the team about it, I've met with Colin individually, I've met with Relique individually, and so we'll we'll handle those things internally.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_05: We take a lot of pride in the way we play the game, we take a lot of pride in us playing as a team.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_05: I think one thing that does get unnoticed on Colin's penalty is how quickly juice criers right there are telling them that's not what we do.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_05: And so again, we've got to learn from that.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_05: I think Colin will.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think any of those actions are indicative of the character of the young men.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and I think we'll see that as the season unfolds of who these guys really are.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna throw up.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm just gonna I just I mean, did he make him and I know coaches keep things in-house.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: We're not gonna talk about what we did.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_02: We got but Colin Simmons, he turned right around, putting back in the game.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, put him back in the I would have made his backside sit.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, just sit.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_02: You sit, and if you cost us the game, you know, whatever.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: Chris Del Conte, who's the AD, he released a statement.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: This is not who Texas is.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: Sarcassian, this is not who we are.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yes, it is.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_02: It is who you are.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: It's how you, you know.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: I hate to go.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sounding like an old cognitive yeah, I'm sounding like an old guy who let kids walk on his lawn and got mad.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, you know, it's just I just got so irked at Sarcadian because I thought he downplayed the whole thing and the fact that's where officials, and I mean, not that you want them to determine the outcome of a game, but let's, you know, obviously big games, there's going to be emotion and things of that nature.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_08: And, you know, and I see in big games, you see close hits on the sideline that maybe there's not a flag that some teams want a flag for a late hit, but you know, that's just part of that.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_08: But when you celebrate, I mean, that's a you know, and that's a rule that is supposed to be, you know, administered to and adhered to.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_08: And throw a flag because you're talking about that's being selfish and jeopardizing your team.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: Good point.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_08: You know, it really is when you're doing something, you know, pro totally inappropriate.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_08: You know, it's one thing if you guys spikes the ball just out of emotion.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_08: That's one thing.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_08: You're not supposed to do that either, but I've seen that and it's not called.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're starting to spin it.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_08: It's not called.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_08: Um, and I get some emotional things, but when you're doing, yes, a planned uh celebration, you know, and and they're you know, right now in the NFL, they're allowing them, but there's also some of those things, you know, they're they're giving them them sportsman-like conduct.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, you know, right now they're flagging the officials or flagging those guys right now.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_08: Then the other thing you can do, and I I took heat for this years ago because you know, it used to be before NIL, you had like uh meal money you gave your players.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_08: Every every college did that, you know, and Coach Beamer, when guys were like they would miss class or do some different things, we would hold her withhold their meal money.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_08: And I I made a statement, somebody asked me about we're we talked about that and we could potentially do that.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_08: And I had every coach in America reach out to me and say, kudos to you, you know, you uh because everybody does it, and but I got we got you know, but why not right now?
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_08: You're paying these guys, fine them.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, uh, if they're not gonna do what's if they're not gonna do what you're supposed to the policy is, if you don't want to set them down, then fine them, you know, and release it, and release who you're fighting and why.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they can if you have to release injuries, release fines.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_08: So yeah, I mean if guys, yeah, be if he's being a knucklehead, you know, that's what you know, fine for being a knucklehead.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, that's what it's all about.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_02: Knucklehead's one of the great, that's one of the great descriptions of all time.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: I've always loved knucklehead.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_02: My dad used it like crazy.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: All right, anyway.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, that's enough.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: You know, Bud and I just wanted to rant and uh get that.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: I I feel better now, so thank you.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we'll go to break, we'll come back.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: George Allen, part two of the Senator with uh uh talking about conference realignment, the NCAA, some parts of the interview.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: And we had just another record number of listeners and followers last week because of Senator Allen.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna tell him that this week.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: And anyway, we'll come back.
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• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's Foster and Friends, and that was the voice of George Allen, former senator, former governor.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_02: And uh this this is the senator part two of uh Foster and Friends.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: When George, we're we're gonna cover the subjects, uh, but that we really didn't get to last week, and maybe there will be some some repeat or whatever.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, George Allen's not very happy with the NC2A, is he?
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_08: No, you know, there's a lot of people that have not been, you know, and uh over the years.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_08: And uh you know, but the it we uh in the end of the day with this conversation, you know, and he agrees, and we all on the same page.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_08: You want to play pay pay players, uh, but we do need to find some guardrails, um, you know, to and and then have a governing body that can be, you know, hold hold uh, you know, schools accountable.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_08: The NCAA right now, I think they've lost every battle uh here recently, you know, when they when they're gone to court.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_08: They just don't have any clout anymore.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_08: And um, but we do need to have an organization.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_08: You know, we need to get these guardrails in in place and then have a organization, whether it's the College Sports Commission or create a commissioner board or what what it is, you know, whatnot, like a you know, a pro model.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_08: But yeah, I mean uh um he's not a fan of the NCAA, but I think um he, you know, we all in that have been in business understand that there uh and there needs to be a governing body that is a has power, you know, and has control.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if you want to ask George Allen a question and then go get an ICT, just ask him about the NCAA.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_10: No, I've I've generally been adverse to him.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_10: I I think the NCA and the colleges have been arrogant, uh elitist, and most of the cases they lost, they ought to lose.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_10: They they find a a Tennessee player uh because he he got uh like$300.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_10: He's thinking of a really good uh linebacker coach, defense, uh Aaron Aaron Car Arian Carter.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_10: He he got a plane ticket, uh say$300 or something to possibly enter the NFL draft last spring.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_10: And they suspended him.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_10: He paid the agent back and they suspended him for two games because of because of that.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_10: Meanwhile, you have the players and and I think LSU was wrong for these guys to turn pro and trying to get these guys that actually went to sign pro contracts.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_10: Car Carter signed no contract.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_10: He was just exploring, you know, doing his due diligence.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_10: And so they suspend him for two games.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_10: And it's just it's meanwhile, they're allowing other things.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_10: So there needs to be some semblance of order.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_10: We love the sport.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_10: We the the reason people love sports and especially football is you've got a level playing field, you have it's a meritocracy.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_10: You do have to have rules.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_10: You we don't like I don't like zebras, but you don't want the referees determining the outcome of the game, but you do have to have rules.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_10: Just like in the free enterprise system, you have to have rules.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_10: It'd be enforcement of contracts and property rights.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_10: And so you uh they do need to come up with a much better approach.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_10: This this at least is a step.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_10: I'm not gonna say it's necessarily a step in the right direction, but it at least gets the debate being had to listen to all sides, and this is the way laws ought to be passed.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_10: You listen to hearings, listen to all sides.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_10: People have their principles.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_10: Mine is I think players ought to be paid, but in the midst of it, uh and and and also taken care of if they have permanent injuries, just like any other employee.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_10: If somebody gets hurt on a job, there's workers' comp uh for them.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_10: And um but then in the in the in the the the excellent aspect of sports, especially football, is the pace of the game, the which is perfect for commercials, which is the way they make money, and then it's such and it's and it's watched, it's by far the most popular every year.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_10: You look at the 100 top watched TV programs, it's football, mostly the NFL, but also college football.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_10: And and there's an excitement in college football, particularly in the SEC, Virginia Tech home games, Clemson in the in the ACC as well, and Florida State when it was bad.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_10: They're still they're down, but some the the excitement of uh college game day, uh especially in in Virginia, by far the the the top noise and attendance is Virginia Tech.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_10: I'm just being objective about it.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_10: Um and that that they it's not replicated in the NFL.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_02: Well, as I said, that's a three-minute answer uh from the senator.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: So uh ask him a question about college athletics, and and this is what you're gonna get.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, this is part two in this segment uh with the senator, of course.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_02: And we got under the topic uh a couple of weeks ago, well, just a week ago, on conference realignment.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_02: And now this is this is a topic that the senator is not happy about at all.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_10: The difficulty and difference for colleges that need to be taken into account, and this is the way I would look at it as a senator, is that they have Title IX, and I'm not against Title IX that gives opportunities to women in women's sports.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_10: The NFL and none of these pro leagues have to worry about, gosh, we have to support the women's flag football league, or or the NBA doesn't need to support the WNBA or some other sport or a volleyball team or something like that.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_10: But there's where colleges need to change.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_10: They have these far-flung conferences in the ACC, they call it the Atlantic Coast Conference.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_10: It ought to be the all-coast conference.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_10: All coast, yeah.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_10: Because you got the Pacific, the Atlantic, and the Gulf, in effect, with with uh SMU.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_10: And is you got these far-flung, and it's it's generally okay for football.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_10: But if you're having volleyball teams and golf teams and tennis teams, and some of the northeastern type ones have lacrosse and so forth, and they're and they're taking these teams out to out to the California from Virginia, and it's not just the players, the coaches, it's the trainers, it's uh the equipment managers, and you got the flight costs, you have the lodging costs, you got the food costs.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_10: My view is as they ought to make all these non-revenue sports uh outside of you know football, basketball, and and maybe baseball, uh making them like say 25 regional conferences.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_10: And they're and they're playing there, it's no more than say a three-hour bus ride.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_10: So you'd have say a Virginia-West Virginia conference, you'd have a maybe a North Carolina-South Carolina one, a Tennessee, Kentucky, uh Florida would have their own, Texas would have their own, but Georgia and Alabama and Mississippi be in with Arkansas and and uh Louisiana and so forth.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_10: And you still have a national championship.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_10: You'd still bring those 25 or 20 different conferences, uh, the winners of those conferences together.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_10: Uh, but you so much reduce the cost of all of that travel and lodging of sports that are already losing money, and no one is traveling.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_10: It's not as if fans they have herds of fans at at these at these other sports, which are there's I'm not against the sports, but they're money losers.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_10: And it makes it even worse if you're having to pay all these expenses, and they don't have TV contracts.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_10: Now they'll get some, you know, the volleyball baseball will be on TV a lot, at least the SCC.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_10: I know baseball gets a lot, and and the ACC as well.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_10: Uh, but the but they don't have any TV revenues.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_10: Once in a while there'll be volleyball will will be on, and once in a while they'll show gymnastics, but they're and then once in a while track meets, but you don't see swimming meets, and they and whatever if they're on TV, it's it's they're not getting much revenue for it.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_10: So the point is is it's with with these these uh non-geographically or non-regional conferences, particular, particularly the SCC is not that bad.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_10: Actually, they are still relatively the southeast, although they got Missouri in it.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_10: But at least it's contiguous.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_10: But I mean the ACC is just ridiculous, and the same with the Big Ten and the Big 12 is far fetched too.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_10: I mean, they go from almost coast to coast.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_10: So if if you get these non-revenue or the the diplomatic term is Olympic sports, uh for it, if you have them just playing locally, regionally, close by, and you'd actually probably get more fans to show up to it.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_10: Sure.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_10: There's no natural rivalry between uh Virginia Tech and and Cal.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_02: Senator Foster, we have time for a 60-second rebuttal.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_08: This is I I mean I agree.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, I think you know, he makes all the sense in the world, particularly from the Olympic sports standpoint.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_08: We've talked about that before, you know, on one of our shows we had we had a kind of money ball or whatnot, you know, however we want to call it.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_08: But uh, I mean, there is there that makes total sense from a budgetary standpoint, from a even a fan standpoint.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_08: Your fans will travel.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, I guarantee our our our uh women's or softball fans will travel if they're playing here in the mid-Atlantic, as opposed to going out to Stanford or Cal or wherever.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_08: Same thing with you know, anybody in the Big Ten or as he said in the in the Big 12, probably the the group that's exactly right, as close as in proximity is the SEC.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_08: But it makes all the sense in the world from you know, particularly Olympic sports, because they are they're just uh they're money guzzlers when it's all said and done the way it's handled right now.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, good stuff.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we'll go to break.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_02: We'll come back and more with the senator, wrapping up uh part two of the senator from a conversation last week that we couldn't air it all, but it deserved uh every bit of uh of uh radio time here.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll go to break, come back.
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• 31:37
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome back once again.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's Foster and Friends on another week in part two of the Senator with uh George Allen.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: Really enjoy, you know, that we do have time and the flexibility, but of getting all this in because he does have so much to say.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I think on certain topics, uh Senator Allen is very, very locked into college athletics.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well, naturally, he played uh UVA.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_02: He worked very hard to get Virginia Tech and the ACC.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: We all know that.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_02: But he he really gets emotional when it comes down to issues, and especially if you're talking CFP and you know, players being paid and whatever.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_02: He he wants things to be uh equal, he wants them to be, you know, for everybody and a level playing field.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_02: He makes a lot of sense when when we talk to him.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_08: Well, he does, and like you said, he's a guy that sat in those same seats that these players are sitting in.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_08: And and uh, you know, college athletics um and being a student athlete has impacted his life.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_08: And he understands the full um oh what those resources allow these young people to have.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_08: And I think that's the one thing that we don't want to lose sight with all this, you know, NIL and Rev sharing and all those type of things.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_08: The thing that we still got to remember that these are still developmental young people.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_08: They're they're most of them are at a critical phase in their life to kind of set themselves up for the rest of their lives, but not just financially.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_08: That's a big part of it now, with what's with for some of them.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_08: It's still the upper 10% are making all the money.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_08: And some guys are making good money, but it's not life-changing money.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_08: Well, it varies from family to family or individual, but you know what I'm saying.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_08: It's just uh, but um we've still got to keep this in place that these are still student athletes, even though we are paying them and there's some kind of some type of employee, but uh there is still needs to be that experience and college experience to develop yourself to create a foundation to have success the rest of your life.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_02: No, makes sense.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_02: All right, uh the final four minutes with the senator as uh we we wrap up our conversation in the senator part two, and you know, he's very concerned about the level playing field, uh diving into the college football playoff as well.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: And of course, when you talk to an athlete, you talk about the men in black and white, are the final four minutes with the senator, George Allen.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_10: If it if they don't do that, what you're gonna get is the SEC and Big Ten are gonna be their their own level, and then you'll have the Big 12 and ACC at the next level, and they'll do well, and then you get all the rest.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_10: And it's it's uh you want competition to be uh as much as possible a level playing field, and you know, some of these teams, every every college does it, they pay some team five hundred thousand dollars to you know be a live dummies, a crash test dummy, yeah.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_10: I mean, it's I mean, it's it's you know, and and they all do it, but it's and that's how these other ones had the Firmins and the VMIs and the and the whatever get get get money.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_02: If you were the uh commissioner of the uh the Big Ten or the or the Mac, would you would you reverse the Western Michigan uh outcome since the clocks did not sink?
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: George is shaking his head, you know.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_10: I was I was watching that game and texting at it.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_10: I said, this is just a great upset.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_10: And I said, Oh, the zebras, oh I said, and then they score.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, see, that's what you don't like, right?
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_10: You don't like the officials making a mistake determining the outcome of a game, right?
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_10: I think that as a practical matter, you could put an asterisk next to to that game.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I think as as far as the rankings and the way it all comes now, and I've I like the playoff system they have in the NCAA, it ought to be determined on the field, not by polls, but actually determined on the field, and they'll ex uh they'll undoubtedly expand the playoff numbers because money is what matters here.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, so one once ESPN or the network say, hey, put in another round of playoffs, we'll pay you this amount, it'll kill off these other bowl games, you know, the the ones that they're fun, but they don't have meanings for the national championship, right?
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_10: Um, and I still think that Michigan with this in their rankings um to make the playoffs, I think that'll be considered, yeah.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_10: Well, that was that was not a win.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, probably.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_10: If those things are equal with Michigan versus let's say uh Tennessee are equal with with uh Florida on you know whether they should make that the playoff, they'll say, Yeah, well, miss one of Michigan's win was a gift by the referees, and so Florida earned, let's say, their their their wins.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but don't you think don't you think the senator would be awesome on the on the football playoff committee?
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: How good would he be?
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_08: Awesome on the football playoff committee.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, well, you got a guy that played the game, you know, he understands exactly what it, you know, the college uh student athlete experience is all about.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_08: So you got a guy that's you know and has been a leader um, you know, of um local government and you know, um big government, and uh, you know, I think he just has a great background in the senator's name image.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, I'm gonna stand on the table for George Allen to be the next commissioner of the country.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, me too.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_10: We'll start never they would never want me.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_10: I'm too much for freedom, and I I'm not one who laments the end of the feudal system that laments God.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_10: I remember when we didn't have to pay these serfs to do all this work, those are the good old days.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_10: I I'd I'm I'm happy for the athletes and the players and the money they're making, the coaches are making, and and all of that.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_10: And uh, but I do think there needs to be some some guardrails, but reasonable ones that uh protect freedom and uh opportunity.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_10: Pay the serfs.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_02: We had to pay the serfs to yeah, yeah.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_09: I love him.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_02: I I love him.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_02: And uh just to to kind of wrap up the segment too, uh, the Protect College Sports Act passed the Senate this past Monday by a vote of 7722.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, it was called a landmark legislative step toward unprecedented federal regulation of intercollegiate athletics.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I know we've spent a lot of time on it, but now, thanks to Ted Cruz and Maria Cantwell, the bipartisan bill, it gives the NC2A a limited antitrust exemption to establish the new rules on athlete eligibility, transfers, and compensation.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: That is the headline of what we will end up trying to accomplish.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_02: But uh, Bud, would you say, uh, in closing this segment, would you say then, uh, and George I think believes it, would you say we're headed in the right direction?
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_08: I I believe so.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, we've been thinking that for the last year, but I do think this gets us in a now.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_08: We're not, we're gonna still far from being done, I, you know, and it's got to go back to the house and um, you know, and see how that goes.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_08: And I think there's gonna be, there's so many different avenues we they need to discuss.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_08: Um, you know, so it's just gonna be interesting.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_08: But I do think we're heading in the right direction to um kind of get some of this in in place and get going in a positive direction.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_02: All right, great stuff.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna come back, some football topics with Bud and uh kind of a QA that I I've still got, I I I still need answers.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_02: I got stuff I've got to figure out.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll do that when we come back, Foster and friends.
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• 41:02
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• 41:11
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome back.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_02: It is Foster and Friends, and uh we are getting ready for a great weekend of this show being recorded before the uh pit game on Friday night.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so uh I've got a couple of topics I'm gonna cover with Bud.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go back a week.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Bud, I was in uh I was sitting in Charlottesville last week prior to your tournament.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_02: I thought the Boston College win might have been one of the more impressive wins that I have seen Virginia Tech uh have in the last couple of years, you know, we considering the weather and and what was happening in that game.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I I you know it's a it was a good win.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, and and BC's playing better than I think everybody expected.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_08: There, yeah, and then the conditions um I think neutralize things.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_08: Um, but not to throw Brent Pry under the bus because he is our coordinator and and uh but I think in the past couple years, those were games that we would have you know wouldn't have pulled out at the end.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_08: And I just thought the staff showed a lot of composure, and that being Brent Pry with that, but um obviously having having some weapons offensively to be able to compensate a little bit, and uh, but I I thought we played the game very conservative early because of the weather.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_08: But yeah, it was just one of those wins that you sometimes have to grind out.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_08: Not every victory is gonna be pretty, you know.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_08: You're gonna in the game of football, and particularly when you go on the road, and uh then with those uh conditions, you're just gonna have to sometimes find a way, and that's what we did the other day.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, it was it was good.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_02: So anyway, um, not knowing the pit results, uh, since we are recording before Friday, so next week we'll have uh a lot to cover.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_02: All right, topic number two.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I thought of it and you know, feel you know, God, if there's anybody I want to succeed at Shane Beamer, is he in trouble in Columbia?
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_08: Well, I think the seat is definitely hot.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_08: That's just my I and I I love Shane Beamer like a brother and like a son, you know.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_08: I've said that before.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_08: Um, and I think it's more how they've lost, too.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_08: And and they've lost, I think, seven straight, but then some of those seven straight SEC games.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_08: And I think who do they have this week?
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_08: I think they got Kentucky maybe you know, who's playing really, really well.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_08: Um but um um it is uh yeah, they play Kentucky at South Carolina.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_08: That's gonna be a big game.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, I think if if they lose that one, and if they lose it and how they lose it, yeah.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_08: I think that's the big thing is how you lose the games.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_08: Uh obviously, if he wins it, um that that the seat's not quite as hot.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_08: But uh Shane's a good football coach.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_08: That's a tough job, but I do think the seat is hot when it's all said and done.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_08: Not because he's lost, it's how they've lost.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it's a cliche.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_02: I will use it.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we all make you know statement games, statement games.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I would say UVA, Florida State, a statement for the Cavaliers as far as this season.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_08: I do too, and I think it's a statement game for FSU.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_02: I mean good point.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_08: Uh I mean, uh obviously for Mike Norvell, if he doesn't win this game, you talk about a hot seat now.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_08: Um and uh they played, I mean, they still got great athletes, you know, and uh but I think this, I think UVA's a really good football team.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_08: Uh they're playing great defense.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_08: Um, you know, the quarterback gives them just with his versatility, gives them some different options from a defensive standpoint that uh is problematic, not just with the you know, throwing the ball or handing off, but his ability to run and and they're creating running plays for the quarterback.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_08: That's just another element to defend that's challenging.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_08: Um, but I think you know, they have the most experience coming back at in the country, if I'm not mistaken.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_08: So they're we're heading into week five now, and that's a group that um you know, I know they had a setback against uh West Virginia and probably didn't play their best football, but um the meat of their schedule is still ahead, and it starts this is a big big game, I think, for them and their confidence, and it's a big game for Florida State and and you know what they need to do to get their program back on track.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, all right.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_02: With everything uh with everything else uh happening, real quick, it's Florida for real.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_02: And Sumraw was on your short list with the committee, right?
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_08: Wasn't some I was impressed by John.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, he was one of my um if we didn't get James Franklin, because once we started to deal, we it was to me, it was John and uh Bob Chesney, who both of them are having outstanding seasons with their new rosters.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_08: But John's just a football coach, and Florida's got talent, and they've had a and um and I think they're gonna be a team to reckon with not only this year, but for years to come.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_08: But I mean the cupboard wasn't bare, and and he's proven to be a good football coach, and I think he's bringing a mentality there.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_08: So I think they're for real.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_08: Now I don't know if they're uh did they jump into the top 10?
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_08: Where are they ranked right now?
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_02: As a matter of fact, bud, Florida is ranked eighth.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_02: They're 4-0.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_02: So they moved into the top 10 of the AP top 25, and also in the coaches poll.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_02: They are in top 10, they're number eight.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_08: That's impressive.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_08: You know, that's impressive.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_08: But they did, I I watched some of that game.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_08: They I saw some of the you know the game, and they they looked impressive, played physical, they're they're athletic, and uh, you know, but uh they're they're gonna be well coached because he's a good football coach.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_02: Well, look, have a good weekend, have a good football weekend, and we will certainly talk next week and uh a couple of surprises after your tournament, boy.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_02: We got some people coming to the coming to the forefront that are gonna make a day.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_02: They're just gonna, I don't know, they're gonna change our lives with all the stories that they have.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_02: So it uh it'll be good.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_02: So have a good weekend for Bud Foster.
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