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Rugby Direct: Episode 230 · Rugby Direct

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  Speaker 2: taking care of business. Elliott Smith, Liam Napier Back for
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  Speaker 2: another edition as we count down to the final week
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  Speaker 2: of Super Rugby's regular season. We'll get into the teams,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera and now tipping in a moment. But first,
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  Speaker 2: some news over the last forty eight hours or so
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  Speaker 2: since we last recorded, and a change in the Crusaders
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  Speaker 2: Captaincy Sorry coaching for twenty twenty seven. This is a
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  Speaker 2: story that both yourself and our third wheel of Rugby
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  Speaker 2: Directnick Beauley, broke Tuesday lunch time, a good twenty four
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  Speaker 2: hours or so before the Crusaders announced it themselves that
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  Speaker 2: Scott Hansen is taking charge of the Crusaders next year
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  Speaker 2: and Rob Penny is exiting. We surprised by this appointment.
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  Speaker 3: Not overly.
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  Speaker 4: I think Rob was always exiting. I think at the
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  Speaker 4: end of this year. It's been an interesting tenure, hasn't it?
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  Speaker 3: For him?
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  Speaker 4: Die first year won four or fourteen games, missed the playoffs,
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  Speaker 4: resurrected with the help of some old boys coming in
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  Speaker 4: and the players coming together in year two to win
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  Speaker 4: the championship and right in the playoff mix again. This
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  Speaker 4: year hasn't been vintage year, but certainly found some momentum
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  Speaker 4: at the right time. So I think the Crusaders in
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  Speaker 4: giving Rob one more year, we're always looking for a replacement.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know who that was going to be, but
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  Speaker 4: Scott Hansen. Look, the Crusader's basically always appoint people who
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  Speaker 4: have been indoctrinated in that environment, don't they do well?
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like there's a two horse race between him
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  Speaker 2: and Brad Moore, who has been in the Crusader's environment
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  Speaker 2: on off for about a decade now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and is still there. So I think he's disappointed.
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  Speaker 4: I think the Crusaders sounded out Andrew Goodman, who's come
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  Speaker 4: through the links the ranks but was obviously from Nelson
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  Speaker 4: and is now with the Islands and was where the
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  Speaker 4: British and Irish lions not willing to come home yet
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  Speaker 4: so look, I think Scott Hanson's a pretty good fit.
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  Speaker 4: There were mixed reviews on him in the All Blacks
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  Speaker 4: in an assistant coaching capacity. Some people loved him, some
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  Speaker 4: people didn't. But he knows the Crusader as well, and
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  Speaker 4: he's going to have a great roster to work with still,
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  Speaker 4: so I think all in all he'll do a good job.
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  Speaker 3: What do you reckon?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a solid appointment. I guess the
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  Speaker 2: All Blacks thing probably hangs over him a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: and there was obviously the suggestion that he was doing
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the hands on coaching of the team,
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  Speaker 2: and therefore, when a coach gets and a coaching system
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  Speaker 2: gets pushed out the door, there is always going to
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  Speaker 2: be some question marks ahead of their next role. You're
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  Speaker 2: right of who's similar that the players that did love
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  Speaker 2: him really engage with him. The players that didn't maybe
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  Speaker 2: not so much. But this is a not just a
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  Speaker 2: clean slate from necessarily he don't have to come in
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  Speaker 2: and you know, twenty twenty sevens often a World Cup
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  Speaker 2: is often tricky fro when it comes to super rugby.
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  Speaker 2: Players have their eyes on various other things. But he's
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  Speaker 2: got a three year contract, and I'm intrigued to see
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  Speaker 2: how he goes first real head coaching official title. Head
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  Speaker 2: coaching capacity. Did a little bit at the some Wolves
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  Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen when Tony Brown was in and out
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  Speaker 2: with his Japanese commitments ahead of that home World Cup,
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  Speaker 2: so it's a big question, I guess, so whether it
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  Speaker 2: can step up to the head coaching level. But probably
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  Speaker 2: the best candidate maybe that they could have got if
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  Speaker 2: they were going to look internal.
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  Speaker 4: I think Brad Moore's got more head coaching experience. He
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  Speaker 4: has led Southland. He was really well liked during his
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  Speaker 4: time at Scarlett's and I only left there in Wales
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  Speaker 4: because he's going to Rugby paid a hefty fee to
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  Speaker 4: bring him home to be All Black's assistant coach. Like
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  Speaker 4: Scott Hansen, he was moved on from Ian Foster's coaching
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  Speaker 4: team mid cycle and has gone back to the Crusaders
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  Speaker 4: and done a good job there. So interesting to see
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  Speaker 4: whether he stays in the mix having missed out on
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  Speaker 4: the head coaching position.
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  Speaker 3: What about Rob Penny's press.
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  Speaker 4: Currency yesterday, and I guess the way in which the
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  Speaker 4: Crusader's reacted to the news being broken, they were clearly
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  Speaker 4: mythed they wanted to wait till the end of the
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  Speaker 4: year to announce that that coaching transition, thought it would
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  Speaker 4: be a distraction for this year. What did you make
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  Speaker 4: of their public position or utterances about the news coming out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is always the risk when you complete deals
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  Speaker 2: that you don't want to announce well before time, that
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  Speaker 2: someone's going to get wind of it. As it happened,
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  Speaker 2: yourself and Neck both got wind of it around what
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  Speaker 2: was going on there. There's the risk you take when
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  Speaker 2: you don't want to announce it publicly and things don't
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  Speaker 2: run to the timeline that Super Raugby teams want them
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  Speaker 2: to they run. If the information is out there, then
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  Speaker 2: journalists have a responsibility to publicize that information or report
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  Speaker 2: of that information. That's the business that we are in.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought it was disappointing in a way from
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  Speaker 2: Rob Penny to front it like that. I think this
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  Speaker 2: is probably more with the Crusader's management station board that
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  Speaker 2: it has got out to the public that is have
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  Speaker 2: heard it. But to be honest, Rob, it's probably better
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  Speaker 2: I got out this week than leading into the playoffs
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  Speaker 2: week one next week. I think if there's a week
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  Speaker 2: to do it, if it's coming out early week. Letting
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  Speaker 2: into your final home game of the regular season is
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  Speaker 2: much better than in a quarter final, semi final, grand
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  Speaker 2: final week if it had come out then, So you've
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  Speaker 2: got to kind of take the positives I think in
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  Speaker 2: that regard.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe Rob, I think you're right, might have been
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  Speaker 4: a bit annoyed that's I wasn't communicated to him from
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  Speaker 4: Crusader's management. But I think Rugby still has a lot
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  Speaker 4: of maturing to do in this regard, particularly within a
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  Speaker 4: New Zealand lens, that you can't control everything, and in fact,
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  Speaker 4: anytime anyone.
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  Speaker 3: Is talking or engaging with rugby.
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  Speaker 4: Is a positive thing that your sport is in the
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  Speaker 4: spotlight and whether that be through controversy or good news
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  Speaker 4: bad news, that's actually putting your sport in the shop window.
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  Speaker 4: People are talking about it, that they're talking about what's happening,
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  Speaker 4: what's happening next, and Rugby just needs to embrace it.
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  Speaker 4: They need to get their head around that that you
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  Speaker 4: can't control every message and this is a modern world
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  Speaker 4: and just grow up about ye.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, Mansbridge was told by Penny a couple
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  Speaker 2: of months ago that he wasn't going Penny didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to stick around for another season, so they've been actively
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  Speaker 2: you know, talking to can. You know, there are so
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  Speaker 2: many different places where it would have got out that
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  Speaker 2: you know, you just can't control the you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: like the straight upul moves, you know, you know you can.
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  Speaker 2: You've basically got to tighten up you know, the information
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  Speaker 2: channels or else that's going to you know, flow. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think they've got not much of a lead to
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  Speaker 2: stand on, I think in that regard.
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  Speaker 4: The only other point interesting to note that basically all
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  Speaker 4: of the for More Blacks coaches now other than Scott Robertson,
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  Speaker 4: have found gigs. Jason Holland leading the Blues next year,
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  Speaker 4: Scott Hansen will join the Crusaders, Somebody Allison is going
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  Speaker 4: to lead New Yella, Maldi, Liam McDonald is in Japan.
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  Speaker 2: Jason Ryan's still with the old Blacks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that's right.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, only Scott Robinson. He's going to be involved
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  Speaker 4: with the Barbars. He can't coach a Tier one nation
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  Speaker 4: this year, but could pop up with someone in a
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  Speaker 4: Rugby WORL Cup year, could go to rugby League. He's
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  Speaker 4: been to Sydney, so he's the last man standing in
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  Speaker 4: terms of finding his next gig.
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  Speaker 2: He is and it'll be interesting to see where he goes.
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  Speaker 2: Whether he does take on a technical advisor sort of
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  Speaker 2: role for the World Cup, there'd probably be some movement
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  Speaker 2: around the next cycle after next year's World Cup. Some
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  Speaker 2: coaches may be moved on, some coaches may choose to
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  Speaker 2: move on, So maybe keeps his power to dry a
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  Speaker 2: little bit for that. I'm sure we'll get back into
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  Speaker 2: international coaching, whether it's at text level or maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: a club gig overseas. But I'm sure he's probably biding
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  Speaker 2: his time in waiting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably also no rush to get over the disappointment.
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  Speaker 4: But also he would have got a hell of a payout,
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  Speaker 4: so from a cash perspective, won't be light of pocket.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think he'll be okay for the time being.
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  Speaker 2: Scott Barrett is out for three to five months with
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  Speaker 2: the back injury. The drums has sort of been, funnily enough,
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  Speaker 2: similar to the Robenny scenario. The I mean whispers around
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  Speaker 2: that not all was right with Scott Barrett's back or
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  Speaker 2: there had been another injury of some sort, And indeed
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  Speaker 2: he's out for three to five months. And Rob hen
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  Speaker 2: announced that at his second media conference of the day yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: one for the morning, one for the afternoon. Yeah, absolutely
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  Speaker 2: nothing better for him, and yeah, just big news. I
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  Speaker 2: guess we weren't feeling that Scott Barrett was going to
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  Speaker 2: be retained as the All Blacks captain, but still the
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  Speaker 2: incumbent All Blacks captain being injured for three to five months. Now,
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  Speaker 2: If it's three months, he's possibly back on the park
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  Speaker 2: for Taranaki in the NPC sometime around September. If it's
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  Speaker 2: five months, well that's kissing the year goodbye. So massive blow.
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  Speaker 2: We may not see Scott Barrow on a rugby field
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  Speaker 2: at all in twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, big news, isn't it. Like you say, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think he would regain the captaincy regardless. Look at this
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  Speaker 4: point I would be saying if I'm David Renny, I'm
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  Speaker 4: same as Scott Burrett. Take all the time you need,
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  Speaker 4: don't rush back. This is no pun intended. This has
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  Speaker 4: been a lingering injury, he said, problem with his body
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  Speaker 4: for the best part of eighteen months.
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  Speaker 3: Years.
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  Speaker 4: We know the level he can get to. Whether they're
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  Speaker 4: whether the captaincy affected that or not, we'll never know,
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  Speaker 4: but just get your body, right, I'd be right in
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  Speaker 4: this year off from a from an all Blacks perspective
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  Speaker 4: at this point, maybe he gets back, maybe he doesn't,
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  Speaker 4: But I think he needs a real conditioning window and
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  Speaker 4: back surgery no matter what level, creates a high degree
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  Speaker 4: of uncertainty, and there's no point rushing him back this
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  Speaker 4: year with the with the World Cup next year, take
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  Speaker 4: all the time he needs and have a proper off season,
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  Speaker 4: rebuild your body, come back stronger next year.
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  Speaker 3: That will be my approach to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to agree there's no benefit to rushing
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  Speaker 2: him back. He's going to miss rugby's greatest rivalry. He
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  Speaker 2: would be likely maybe from an all black touspeact to
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  Speaker 2: potentially end of view tour. But at that point, are
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  Speaker 2: you better, as you say, just to take stock and go.
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  Speaker 2: Let's set the ground running Round one twenty twenty seven
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  Speaker 2: with the Crusaders and get yourself absolutely right. Got to
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  Speaker 2: interesting to see what he does, because I'm sure he'll
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  Speaker 2: be desperate to get back out on the rugby field.
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  Speaker 2: He was obviously had a sabbatical this year and was
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  Speaker 2: primed to maybe make a play for the playoffs for
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  Speaker 2: the Crusaders, not to be and so he'll be itching
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  Speaker 2: to get back out there, but ultimately he's probably gonna
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  Speaker 2: do what's right and maybe twelve months through the World
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  Speaker 2: Cup is the best thing for Scott Barrett, but also
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  Speaker 2: for New Zealand rugby and the Orb Blacks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think at his best he is still a major
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  Speaker 4: asset and he's doing on rugby to the All Blacks
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  Speaker 4: Captaincy or not. He's a big body, he is great
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  Speaker 4: and work great. He's a presence at the lineouts and
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't it be great to see him back to that
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  Speaker 4: level when he was among the world's best elite locks.
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  Speaker 3: But to do that he has to be get his
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  Speaker 3: body right.
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  Speaker 2: He does absolutely super rugby teams announced for the weekend
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  Speaker 2: as we floated on Monday, Hurricanes and Chiefs roosting a few.
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  Speaker 2: The Blues have a couple of injury as well, and
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  Speaker 2: so these teams look rather different for this weekend. To
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  Speaker 2: the Hurricanes, I think about it, a dozen roughly players
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  Speaker 2: that are either one to two week injuries or resting
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  Speaker 2: for this week. A lot of the stars sitting for
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  Speaker 2: this week. Are you on board with us or do
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  Speaker 2: you have an issue with them doing this?
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  Speaker 3: I think they've earned the RUP. Yeah, top spot locked up.
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  Speaker 4: There's nothing to be gains by putting a lot of
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  Speaker 4: these frontline starters out and chrished it so they're on
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  Speaker 4: a massive stretch of games. I think it makes complete sense.
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  Speaker 4: The one question mark I'd have, ironically is bring Tyr
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  Speaker 4: or Lomax back. Sure, but I would be sitting cam
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  Speaker 4: roygad does he really need to get rugby under his belt.
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  Speaker 4: He's only been out a couple of weeks really, and
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  Speaker 4: he potentially risks another injury, recurring injury ahead of the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a big yearhead with the All Blacks as well,
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  Speaker 4: among the most influential players in hew Zell on rugby.
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  Speaker 4: I do have concerns about him coming back for what
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  Speaker 4: is essentially a meaningless game play.
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  Speaker 2: That it seems like a player that could easily slot
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  Speaker 2: and round one of the playoffs next week against whether
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  Speaker 2: it might be and he'll do a job for you.
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  Speaker 2: And he's close to an eighty minute half back, if
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  Speaker 2: not an eighty minute half back anyway, So if I
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  Speaker 2: was going to play him, I would put him on
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  Speaker 2: the bench. I'm surprised he's starting. I guess you can
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  Speaker 2: manage the minutes a little bit easily easier that way.
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  Speaker 2: That's what coach has always seemed to reckon. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just don't see that the point really we so
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  Speaker 2: will Jordan come back last week? He's now out for
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  Speaker 2: a few weeks, four to six from memory.
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  Speaker 4: Well, if I'm the All Blacks right now, I'm asking some, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: some serious questions of the Crusaders because it's meant to
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  Speaker 4: be a gradual return, and I think it was meant
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  Speaker 4: to be that way. Will Jordan ended up playing seventy
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  Speaker 4: minutes and we're off and now he's out for an
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  Speaker 4: extended period. That's pretty poor management, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I've intrigued to know what the story was
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  Speaker 2: around that, where the Will suggested he could play longer,
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  Speaker 2: but ultimately that should be a coaches just begame was
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  Speaker 2: still in the balance at that point. Yeah, fair, but
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  Speaker 2: again I almost I don't know. Coaches often think about
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  Speaker 2: starting players. You can manage the minutes better that way,
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  Speaker 2: and because you can sub them obviously rather than come
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  Speaker 2: off the bench. They may have to play seventy eight
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  Speaker 2: minutes whatever, but you could have played in thirty minutes
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  Speaker 2: off the bench in the back end of the game
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  Speaker 2: and he's still a valuable asset. It probably speaks to
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  Speaker 2: that New Zealand mindset around finishes and when Kevin quite
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  Speaker 2: got there, I don't think as the country. But on
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  Speaker 2: that will Jordan question, how does that affect the All
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  Speaker 2: Black squad for July, because it seems likely to ad
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  Speaker 2: miss at least the first Test, maybe the second if
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  Speaker 2: it's you know, right of that four to six week range.
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  Speaker 2: Unlikely to play against France and christ Church certainly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well it opens up another outside back position, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 4: And I think a lot hinges on how guys like
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  Speaker 4: Money and Nadawa and Lerocarter come back for the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 4: Guys that have test rugby experience, so interesting to see
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  Speaker 4: how they come back in the playoffs. The haven't they
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  Speaker 4: have a lot of rugby. Potentially someone Josh Morby has
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  Speaker 4: putting himself right in the frame. I've been blown away
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  Speaker 4: by how he's come back from Montpelier this season with
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  Speaker 4: the Hurricanes. He's played wing, he's played fullback. He's shown
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  Speaker 4: quite surprising strength and contact. So yeah, it certainly opens
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  Speaker 4: up a spot. I wouldn't be rushing Jordan back, but yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I just I think that playing him deep. The Crusaders
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  Speaker 4: of Hamstrong themselves as well, haven't they, given Jordan's influence
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  Speaker 4: on their attack this year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, You've got to see the bigger picture sometimes and
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  Speaker 2: that's why I think resting a whole lot of players
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  Speaker 2: make sense for this round and maybe, as you said,
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  Speaker 2: the Hurricanes should have gone even a tad further and
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  Speaker 2: doing so, I'll be looking maybe like a Callum Harkin
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  Speaker 2: as well, potentially being in the mix with that. All
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  Speaker 2: Blacks squad have been very impressed by him.
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  Speaker 3: It's a been cool.
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  Speaker 2: I think he played fall back and played ten obviously.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's done a job on the wing from
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  Speaker 2: memory for the Wellington as well. I think he's versatile,
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  Speaker 2: a good kicking game. I'll be looking potentially at Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you do have a number of different options
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  Speaker 4: when you look at McKenzie, Ruben Love, Boden Barrett, they
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  Speaker 4: can all play fullback. You've got Riekolwane coming back from Irelands.
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  Speaker 4: I imagine he'll be picked, so there isn't a shortage
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  Speaker 4: of outside backs. It's just what Lens does. Da've realy
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  Speaker 4: look at it and specifically, I think there will be
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  Speaker 4: a lot of attention on these outside backs and their
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  Speaker 4: ability under the high ball, given test Rugby's propensity for
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  Speaker 4: kicking and the all struggles there last year, so super
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  Speaker 4: Rugby not necessarily the best breeding grounds to assess that
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  Speaker 4: element of the game, is it to me?
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  Speaker 1: Mate?
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  Speaker 2: This makes it more likely that you've got Love at
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  Speaker 2: ten in that first Test and McKenzie at fullback, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe the other way around, and maybe the other way round,
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  Speaker 2: but I think Love at ten McKenzie fullback is a
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  Speaker 2: live option for that first Test.
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  Speaker 4: If the Hurricanes go deep and win the championship, that
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  Speaker 4: argument's only going to be strengthened, doesn't it.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: On Moni Nadaway as well? Not in the Chiefs media
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: release that he's a semi final prospect with their foot injury.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: If he gets picked, he's go have a lot of
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: rugby under his belts heading into that All Blacks Testeley
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Rocado quarterfinals, dam McKenzie quarter finals. So there's a little
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: bit of question mark around that and when those players
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: are coming back.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty short window. Your man Scheffi yucky. I'm surprised
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: you're not plumping for him.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: He's in the squad anyway, so I didn't need to
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: mention them let's get into some tipping then for the weekends.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: This would be good Crusaders Hurricane seven five on Friday
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Night one in Zed Stadium at T. A.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Car Well Elliott.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I am actually heavily invested on the Crusaders because I
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: expected the Hurricanes to rest and when the odds came
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: out a dollar fifty seven, I'm not sure what they
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: are now, but they've certainly dropped. Yes, I took that
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: and ran with it, so look, it doesn't matter to
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: the Canes mate the top.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, what's your tip?
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Crusaders? Still?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you? Same here reads Fiji and Drew Follows. Nine
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: thirty five at sun Corpse Stadium.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Reads the Wind.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: They've still got a lot to play for. I think
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: they can potentially push up the latter one.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I will touch on more water after we'd finished the thing.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: But Brumby's wider pacificate four to thirty five in Canberra.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Brumbies to win that.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: You know what, I'm going to get more wada for
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: a final ever probable game to win that. Just in
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: the emotion.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Chiefs Blues, very interesting game this.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: The Chiefs without Smsoni Takyaho Tupu Vai Quinta Paire, Luke Jacobson,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Xavier Row, Isaac Hutchinson and the Blues missing two plow too,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Boden Barrett and Dalton Papoale.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Signa capting for the first time for them, Satiti for
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, I'm going to tip the Blues
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: to poor Finger because if they don't now, they might
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: as well hang up the boots for the season.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go the Chiefs at home to somehow
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Paul one out with an inexperienced team and the Western
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: and the war tar as many say, the game of
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the rounds. You couldn't stop talking a lot of fear
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: about how much you're looking forward to this one.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: That's right, what do you reckon? The force?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: And the force Okay, I'm going to get the warortars
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: that will do us. We'll collate the rest of the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: tipping just on Mawana Pacifica after we finish up. On Monday.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: They went into liquidation, which is not really a surprise,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: but New Zealand Rugby to my understanding, has been picking
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: up the tab for them for at least a couple
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: of weeks now, ensuring they get to Canberra and suring
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: players are played staff coaches, key staff through to the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: back end of July and thory of their contracts run
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: out in October. But this is just a messy and
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: end to what has been a sorry saga. And still
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: talking to a couple of potential investors and parties that
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: are wanting to take over the license, but as it stands,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: this is the end of the line for Moana Pacifica
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: on Saturday afternoon.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think ze one Rugby can be an easy
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: punching bag at times, and a lot of people were
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: critical of maybe them not doing enough to help Moan,
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: but they have been absolutely left in the lurch by
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: the Pacifica Medical Association basically bailing before the end of
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: the year, so didn't leave News maybe any choice but
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: to step in and stump up the cash which could
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: have been going to other parts of the game. It's
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: a sad situation, isn't it. And Winston Peters of all people,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: came out this week saying there will be good news
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: about Moana.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Well, Winston, we shall see, because I'm not sure.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Maybe he's got some tobacco or racing friends.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Could be an election issue that could be vote things.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: You're first to save more Wanda PACIFICA.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, unless there's been some government money found in the
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Pacific under a coconut tree or.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: In the.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: In the tropical islands or something. I really can't see
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: a world in which mine is saved, which is a
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: sad situation, but rug Bear's business.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: It is at the end of the day, and unfortunately
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: it feels like that's the end of the line for
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: More PACIFICA. That does us for Rugby Direct. We did
• 21:17
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• 21:21
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• 21:24
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• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I think it agree Liam, It's it's pretty fascinating insight
• 21:30
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• 21:35
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• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, great to get Bruce on. Agents often operate in
• 21:41
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• 21:44
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• 21:47
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• 21:50
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• 21:53
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• 21:54
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• 22:02
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