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Football at Four: Updating the Eagles Injury Situation and More · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Bring in Jeff Mocher though from the Inside the Birds
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  Speaker 1: podcast Inside the Birds dot Com as he joined us
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  Speaker 1: live on the Sports Bash on ninety seven to three ESPN.
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  Speaker 1: Some breaking news today with the Eagles. Mosha, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Nolan Smith on the injured list and this one kind
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  Speaker 1: of crept out of right field, right, I mean, there
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  Speaker 1: was no talk about this when the game was over.
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  Speaker 1: So Number one, the impact in your mind of losing
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  Speaker 1: Nolan Smith. We talked about the pass rush on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Hard to kind of quantify it as you did research
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  Speaker 1: after your hit on Monday show. They didn't have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of third and long pass rushing situations. But how
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  Speaker 1: effective will this defense be without Nolan Smith?
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  Speaker 2: You know what, Nolan's a good player. He does a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the dirty works as a bench rusher. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he's good against the run past on those tolling guards.
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  Speaker 2: Really well, we're only three weeks into the season. I
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  Speaker 2: thought he played well against the Cowboys, decently against the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 2: and again the Rams game was not really a game
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  Speaker 2: meant for past rush. Is the Rams really ran the
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  Speaker 2: ball quite a bit and faced very few third and
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  Speaker 2: long scenarios, So obviously you miss a guy who's the
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  Speaker 2: starting edge. I think that the Darius Smith signing now
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  Speaker 2: looks really really wise by Howie Roseman and the way
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  Speaker 2: he's been able to play and the number of snaps
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  Speaker 2: he's been able to play without having a training camp
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  Speaker 2: or an otah. He can get in there next to
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  Speaker 2: Jalx Hunt and give you that two man rotation or
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  Speaker 2: two man starter and obviously will work more in Maybe
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  Speaker 2: you'll you'll probably, I don't know, we'll see. We'll see
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  Speaker 2: if you see Ojalai up now, or Ball and Konkwo
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  Speaker 2: or maybe even Patrick Johnson for special teams. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you're gonna see that much difference
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  Speaker 2: of a rotation other than vic Vick will go to
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  Speaker 2: three and he's got Jalen Hunt, and he's got Zadarius
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  Speaker 2: Smith and he's got Josh rout right now, and that
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  Speaker 2: seems to be doing the job. But certainly I will
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  Speaker 2: be tested this week because the Bucks have a beat
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  Speaker 2: up offensive line, and if we're talking about the past
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  Speaker 2: really not getting home for the Eagles, then we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: talk about the injuries and just the overall pass rush
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  Speaker 2: state of it.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you think the snaps kind of go.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you had Jalx Hunt before it was kind
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  Speaker 1: of like Zadarius Smith Jalx Hunt. You know, does somebody
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  Speaker 1: does Hunt flip side? How do you see them replacing
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  Speaker 1: Nolan Smith?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think Zadarius Smith steps into that
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  Speaker 2: role and he starts opposite Jalex Hunt. Now Aunt is
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  Speaker 2: still coming along, so it really opens up the door
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  Speaker 2: for us to get more playing time. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna be like a thirty
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  Speaker 2: three percent snapshare among all three, but it wouldn't surprise
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  Speaker 2: me if it looked like that at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the game, or even if they got a fourth in there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious to see if VIC does anything differently because
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  Speaker 2: of this adjustment to the heat and humidity. They're flying
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  Speaker 2: out Friday, they're trying to acclimate. I did feel like
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  Speaker 2: they got worn down last year. Now they also got
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  Speaker 2: worn down because they're on the field so much because
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  Speaker 2: they had they were a completely different defense. You guys
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  Speaker 2: remember that they couldn't stop any anything for that game,
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  Speaker 2: and this game you would think will be different, But
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  Speaker 2: I do. I am curious to see if for this
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  Speaker 2: game and in that environment, if Vic does want to
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  Speaker 2: get an extra edge and maybe even extra interior alignment
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  Speaker 2: active to be a part of a rotation.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher from the Inside of the Birds podcast Inside the
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  Speaker 1: Birds dot Com, It's our Football at four. Every day
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  Speaker 1: at four o'clock, we give you Eagles football and the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles today, Nolan Smith placed on the injured list. He
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the only one, but probably the most important one.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at the Eagles defense, where do you
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  Speaker 1: put Nolan Smith in terms of the importance to what
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  Speaker 1: makes their defense, what their defense is?
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  Speaker 2: Ask me that again, You're asking me how important Nolan
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  Speaker 2: Smith is to what the defense is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like if another like if you lost Miles game,
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  Speaker 1: your best edge rusher that team like that, that messes
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  Speaker 1: them up time? Where is he in terms of the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles defense and how they what they want from their defense?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it's it's interesting. I never want
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  Speaker 2: to minimize anybody's injury, but I don't think it's as
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want to get snaked it by
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  Speaker 2: saying this, but I don't. I don't think it's as
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  Speaker 2: impactful now as say, if the Eagles lost like like
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  Speaker 2: Quinon Mitchell, right, or even Zack Bond because things.
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  Speaker 1: And that's essentially what that's essentially what I'm asking there
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  Speaker 1: is is it seems that it feels like they can
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  Speaker 1: handle losing him more than Jalen Carter or Quinon Mitchell.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yes, I think so they should be able to.
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  Speaker 2: And that's that's the whole thing. I mean, you're look
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  Speaker 2: at it. They've got five edge rushers, uh six, I
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  Speaker 2: won't say seven with Patrick Johnson, he's mostly a special teamer,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, between Funt and between Zadarius Smith and
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  Speaker 2: between Ouce and between Oglari and oo Okuran quote, they've
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  Speaker 2: got that's what's five right there, and six would be
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  Speaker 2: obviously Nolan Smith. But they've got a bunch of guys
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  Speaker 2: who played NFL caliber edge and have had a certain
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  Speaker 2: degrees of success. So it is an area where they've
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  Speaker 2: got some bodies. What they lack though, And this is
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  Speaker 2: where your question fits in, and it might have been
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  Speaker 2: a question even if Nolan Smith is healthy, is do
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  Speaker 2: they got a dog twelve to thirteen of fourteen fifteen
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  Speaker 2: sat kind of guy like you've seen from either Hassan
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  Speaker 2: Reddick or you know, Joshwen has been a really menacing
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  Speaker 2: guy in the past. That was the question going into
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  Speaker 2: the year about it. So that's why it's hard to
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  Speaker 2: really know how much they're losing with Nolan, other than
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  Speaker 2: we know that they're losing a pretty good player, but
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  Speaker 2: a game changer, I don't know. And the guys that
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  Speaker 2: they're replacing him with are all are are theoretically guys
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  Speaker 2: who've done some things in the NFL too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, according to reports, is a
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  Speaker 1: strange tri sip. He's not getting surgery. This is from
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  Speaker 1: the super Bowl. He aggravated that injury. He had the
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  Speaker 1: triceip surgery a week after the super Bowl. He aggravated it.
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  Speaker 1: So the plan is to let him rest every turn
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  Speaker 1: after the buy So I guess most there is no
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  Speaker 1: guarantee that he makes it all the way through this
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  Speaker 1: season that this couldn't be a factor somewhere down the line.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're learning a lot now about this injury,
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  Speaker 2: at least I am. I mean, because Brandon Graham retore
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  Speaker 2: his you know after the super Bowl, right, because so
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't fully ready to return. He'd put it all
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  Speaker 2: on the line to play in the super Bowl, did
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  Speaker 2: great and then not pre tearing the triceps and now
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  Speaker 2: you're seeing Nolan Smith, who was medically clear. Now let
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  Speaker 2: me be clear on that he was deemed underd percent.
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  Speaker 2: He was I think wearing a sleeve at some points
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  Speaker 2: or earlier in the spring. But I mean he was
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  Speaker 2: cleared to go and has been playing reinjure the same area.
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  Speaker 2: So it's clearly one of those injuries that is tricky
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  Speaker 2: and can be aggravated pretty easily.
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  Speaker 1: Mosha obviously that he wasn't the only guy. Jakorian Bennett
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  Speaker 1: and Darius Cooper. Cooper obviously a smaller role. Bennett doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have a huge role, but also a Dori Jackson got
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  Speaker 1: banged up last week, had a groin. Now he did
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  Speaker 1: practice I think today, But you're starting to see the
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  Speaker 1: battle of attrition come in here for Philadelphia, and you
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  Speaker 1: wonder is Kaylee Ringo the next guy? They did also
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  Speaker 1: elevate Eli Rix And if you wonder if that spot
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  Speaker 1: is going to eventually, you know, you feel like you
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  Speaker 1: got your thumb in the hole and you're just waiting
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  Speaker 1: for the leak to spring.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually I think Lenneil i Rix. They just brought
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  Speaker 2: him back to a practice squad and if I'm not mistake,
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  Speaker 2: he's on the No. Guy who got signed to the
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  Speaker 2: fifty three was Mark Sets. But I think it's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Vic said something the other day in the
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  Speaker 2: press offers that was sort of like maybe me scratch.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know what to make of it. He was
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  Speaker 2: somebody asked him about his cornerback depths and he made
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  Speaker 2: a remark that he told kill Ringo, Oh, then he
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  Speaker 2: you know, to not get down on himself, that he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to play a role. And at the time
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  Speaker 2: this is just maybe yesterday, the day Befoork, I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 2: when is he gonna play a role? I mean, he's
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  Speaker 2: buried behind not only the two starters maybe it was
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  Speaker 2: you who asked me on Monday, but not only two starters,
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  Speaker 2: but also the number three corner and then Mattel Williams.
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  Speaker 2: You never know what was going on there, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have Bennett, you had a Dory Jackson, and you
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  Speaker 2: have Quinnon Mitchell. But now I feel like Big was
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  Speaker 2: basically forthadowing to us something that we weren't gonna find
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  Speaker 2: out until today. And Matt Kingy really might have to
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  Speaker 2: play a role, especially since the Dory got banged up
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  Speaker 2: a little bit in the last game.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Nickerson is the one that was elevated
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  Speaker 1: Rick practice squad Nickerson to the fifty three. All right,
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  Speaker 1: so today Nick Sirianni just spoke a little while ago,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, he was asked about what do you
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  Speaker 1: see on film in the running game? You're starting to
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  Speaker 1: hear a lot of the questions about how conservative they are.
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  Speaker 1: They're getting blitzed a lot here. Is this like something
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  Speaker 1: that you think is like busting at the seams or
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  Speaker 1: did the Eagle say, don't care, We'll be as boring
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  Speaker 1: as we want to be.
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  Speaker 2: No. I think the Eagles are smart and they can
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  Speaker 2: see the trend that's been developing of how teams are
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  Speaker 2: playing them with two deep safeties on first and second down.
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  Speaker 2: Then how many as for them? I mean, when you
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  Speaker 2: see a team like the Rams, who were blitzing at
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  Speaker 2: twelve percent, which is one of the lowest in the league,
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  Speaker 2: I think third lowest in the league, all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden doing things that they were doing and blitzing at.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, you know that other teams are trying to
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  Speaker 2: do something different, so you can't just do the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I'd be really really surprised. And if they came
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  Speaker 2: out and just tried to execute the same play calls
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  Speaker 2: that they have been in the same order and thinking
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  Speaker 2: everything's going to be fine. Wouldn't surprise me if they
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  Speaker 2: felt the need to come out throwing a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more on first and second down to open up the
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  Speaker 2: run game instead of vice versa like they've been doing.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Bocha, you got a tough game this week.
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  Speaker 1: You obviously too Teams three and oh Buccaneers that they've
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  Speaker 1: been winning close games. The Eagles have been kind of
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  Speaker 1: scratching and clawing here, but this is the Jalen Hurts
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  Speaker 1: one in four against the Bucks, including playoffs, but he's
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  Speaker 1: had a lot of different reasons why they've lost this game.
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  Speaker 1: Is this a bad matchup for them being on the
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  Speaker 1: road here circumstance those losses in the past, or is
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  Speaker 1: this Bucks team another team that could give you problems?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they can definitely give you problems. The weird thing
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  Speaker 2: is it just seems like neither team when they play
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  Speaker 2: this game. This is about you know how we talked
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  Speaker 2: about the Cowboys game where it's almost very it's almost
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  Speaker 2: infrequent anymore that Jalen Hurts gets the face Dak Prescott. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it's almost in prequent that the Bucks and Eagles play
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  Speaker 2: each other without having you know, massive amounts of injuries
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  Speaker 2: the Bucks offensive line. If you look at what they're
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  Speaker 2: starting offensive line, what was intended to be, and what
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  Speaker 2: it will be on Sunday, you're gonna have all five
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  Speaker 2: linemen in a different place than where they were originally
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  Speaker 2: intended to start because of two or three areas. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: of course Mike Evans is not gonna be able to play.
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  Speaker 2: So by the way, let me let me amend that
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  Speaker 2: if Tristan Wurfs does come back and play, he'll play
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  Speaker 2: left tackle. Then that will be one of the five
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  Speaker 2: that is you know, supposed to play where he's supposed to.
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  Speaker 2: But we have to see if he makes it there.
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  Speaker 2: Same thing with Godwin. So they're beat up on the
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  Speaker 2: old line. They lost Elijah Cantsy, a really good dependsive
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  Speaker 2: tackle for the season, I think, and then they're they're
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  Speaker 2: just you know, beat up at wide receiver with with
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  Speaker 2: Evans and maybe god would not coming back. We oft
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  Speaker 2: to see that. And like we just talked about all
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  Speaker 2: the injuries that the Eagles are dealing with, So first
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  Speaker 2: of all, you know, it's still through really good teams
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  Speaker 2: going to feed the teams and through teams that have
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  Speaker 2: really kind of cornered the market this year on figuring
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  Speaker 2: out ways to win games, you know, like gunning them
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  Speaker 2: out in the fourth quarter. So it's always gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 2: I think that the weather really will help favor the Bucks.
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  Speaker 2: But the Bucks aren't throwing the ball around like they
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  Speaker 2: did last year when Baker had more than forty touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're almost more of a defensive team, and they're
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  Speaker 2: not running the.
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  Speaker 3: Ball very well.
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  Speaker 2: So it almost feels like both these teams going go
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  Speaker 2: into this game sort of like, man, we're three, and
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  Speaker 2: oh we're good. We have a history of being good,
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  Speaker 2: but we'd really love to correct our mistakes pretty quickly here,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and you look at you mentioned it the
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  Speaker 1: fact that they have these weapons in the past game
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  Speaker 1: and they're not having the same success throwing the football
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  Speaker 1: that they have, yet they're still three, And oh, I
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  Speaker 1: wonder how much the Eagles took from that second half
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  Speaker 1: and kind of look at that as a as a
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of a you might have been the
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  Speaker 1: one that said that, were you on Monday saying that
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  Speaker 1: this is like the game where they kicked the sixty
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  Speaker 1: one yard field goal. It's kind of like a jumping
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  Speaker 1: off point to the season, kind of like finding a
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  Speaker 1: groove in the season. If that second half offensively makes
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Matula feel a little bit more confident in his
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  Speaker 1: abilities to kind of unpeel the onion to a different layer.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit, I think as a staff that has
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  Speaker 2: to think that way, I don't think they really have
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  Speaker 2: much of a choice. And I think if they want
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  Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley to get some guys out of the box
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  Speaker 2: and off of it able to be the run team
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  Speaker 2: that they love to be, they do have to throw
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  Speaker 2: the ball a little bit more, and I taking him
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  Speaker 2: out a little further, Mike, I think that means that
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  Speaker 2: even if they because the difficulty of that is that
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  Speaker 2: you sort of playing into Todd Bowles hands. Because Todd
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  Speaker 2: Bowles wakes up every morning at whatever time, five am,
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  Speaker 2: six am, and the first thing he does is draw
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  Speaker 2: up a blitz. That's what he is. He just he
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  Speaker 2: can't stop thinking of different blitzes. And it's not the
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  Speaker 2: same blitz he's He's not just gonna throw you like
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  Speaker 2: a five man rush with the linebacker. He's gonna put
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  Speaker 2: like seven guys in the line of scrimmage only send
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  Speaker 2: four drop three. I mean, he just messes up your
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  Speaker 2: protection schemes. He's brilliant. Honestly, I watch a lot of
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  Speaker 2: tape and some of the things he does are mind
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  Speaker 2: boggling to me. I just have all the respect in
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  Speaker 2: the world for how he does it. So it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to say I want to get my pass game going
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  Speaker 2: this when you know that that means you're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: like all these bodies like flying at your left and right.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the important thing for the Eagles is
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  Speaker 2: not to view any kind of early struggle as a
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  Speaker 2: reason to not throw the ball. You know, you're good
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  Speaker 2: at it, and yeah, they're gonna come at you, but
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  Speaker 2: so were the Rams. So if you can you might
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  Speaker 2: take a snack here, you may get an incompletion of
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  Speaker 2: HRD throw, But hey, if you can hit two or
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  Speaker 2: three down the field to Brown or Smith, then you
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  Speaker 2: make up for that. And I do think that they've
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  Speaker 2: got to figure a way to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, we talk about it all the time,
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  Speaker 1: like if you put this offensive talent in other systems
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  Speaker 1: or other teams, like it almost feels like they would
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  Speaker 1: be they would score like thirty five points a game,
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  Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, they choose not to be that
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  Speaker 1: team until they feel like being that team. And it's
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  Speaker 1: almost like we have this feeling of you can't just
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  Speaker 1: flip the switch on whenever you feel like it. But
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles say otherwise, right, They're just like, we can
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  Speaker 1: if we feel like it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they've done it before. I mean sometimes they
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  Speaker 2: do it week to week. You know last year that
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  Speaker 2: a couple of games where where it was like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, you know, what are you doing offensively? The
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  Speaker 2: quarterback is not looking like seeing obvious receivers open right
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  Speaker 2: in front of him, but they, you know, somehow got
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  Speaker 2: out of way. And then then then the next week
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  Speaker 2: they play the Steelers. They come out throwing or no
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  Speaker 2: no huddle up, tempo, hurts, complete like seventy percent of
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  Speaker 2: passes brown deep sweep, And you're like, how is it
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  Speaker 2: that you just did that in against the Steelers who
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  Speaker 2: have one of the best defenses you know, yearly every year,
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  Speaker 2: not this year, but in general. But you couldn't do
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  Speaker 2: that to like the Jaguars or something the last three
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  Speaker 2: teams you played. I'm done sort of trying to figure
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  Speaker 2: it out, like when it's gonna happen and when it's
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  Speaker 2: not gonna happen. And I think that game against the
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  Speaker 2: Rams is about as good as an example of it.
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  Speaker 2: You know what. You might think it's never gonna happen,
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  Speaker 2: and then bam it comes and droves and then vice versa.
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  Speaker 2: You made thinks, all right, this is the week playing
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  Speaker 2: the Cowboys. They're all beat up in the secondary, they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna and then they struggle. So who knows?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you all, And you know, fans watch games and
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: people watch games in the observation is that in your
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: mind you are thinking of how to win every game
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  Speaker 1: at the best way possible. And sometimes these teams are
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  Speaker 1: lining things up for three and four and five weeks
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  Speaker 1: down the road, right, and and it's like, hey, we
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  Speaker 1: didn't practice this group of plays this week, so we
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  Speaker 1: know we have it in our arsenal, but we're just
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  Speaker 1: not using it right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be nice, nice to play out something the
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: opponent hasn't seen, because it seems like opponents are doing
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: that to the Eagles, no weapon, right each week, trying
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: to hit them with something that they're not expecting.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Eagles are just stubbornly like, well, we have this
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  Speaker 1: in our back pocket, but we're not going to show
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  Speaker 1: you because we still think we can beat you without
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  Speaker 1: showing you that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, listen, I think sometimes when you're a success,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Eagles have won eighteen of nineteen games, right,
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  Speaker 2: so going back to last year, which is in this
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: day and age, that's that's incredible. Like I'd have to
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: go back and look and see if the Patriots and
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  Speaker 2: that in the Tom Brady area. I mean, I know
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  Speaker 2: went undefeated one year, so maybe they probably did. But
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: so that's what the company that we're talking about here,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: and so it's hard for them probably to hear someone
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: saying you got to switch it up and try a
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: few different things. But I mean, clearly you do. You
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: always have to evolve, you always have to adapt well.
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  Speaker 1: And the question, you know, the last question that he
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Sirianni got asked today was the disconnect when you hear
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: the word conservative, that there's a disconnect from you know,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the fans of the and and by the way A
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: j and Hurts using that word and the Eagles coaching
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: staff saying I don't know, I don't I don't see
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  Speaker 1: us as conservative.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but I also think that they're just
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: not trying to feed into any narratives right now. I
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: really think that. I think you also heard him say,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: you know, we keep you know what we do in house.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: We we have a plan and right so, I don't
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: really put too much I don't I don't think right
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: now that this coaching staff is at odds with its
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: personnel on what they want to do. I do think
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: there are times that the coaching staff wants to play
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: to the strengths and eliminate the weaknesses of the personnel.
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  Speaker 2: So they do what they do, and sometimes the players
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: may not like that, you know. I mean, you've seen
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: the players finger pointing each other in the past, like
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you should we should do anything this better, No, we
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: should be doing that better. That happens over the course
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: of the seasons.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Jeff Moscher from the Inside the Birds podcast. Check that
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: out on all podcasting platforms, Inside the Birds dot Com
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: and every day on Football at four right here on
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• 18:36
  Speaker 1: They're going down a day early too. Most Maybe they'll
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: hang out down on Clearwader Beach and get themselves some
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: group or sandwiches.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe there's some establishments on Dale Maybury that people
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: like to go to Hey real quick, Mike Real Quick
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: on Philly Voice either later day or tomorrow, and then
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: even on Inside the Birds podcast, I really took a
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: real deep dive because Red Cofell said on Inside the
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Tape which came out today, that Jordan Davis and Jill
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: and Carter did not play well at all in run defense,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: which is I ron it because he said in the
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: first half and into the third quarter and the fourth
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: quarter totally different. And obviously those two guys won the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: game by blocking the field goals. But then I went
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: and looked at it today. All I looked at seventeen
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: runs that the Rams had that were five yards or
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: more and Greg nailed it. Man. I mean, those guys
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: were getting really pushed back, driven off the ball, getting
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: out of their gaps very notting. That's you can't do
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: that against the Bucks. They like throwing the ball. They've
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: struggled with it this year, but they're going to continue
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: to try and do it and it's gonna be hot.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: You can't lose your technique and your leverage like I
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: saw Jordan Davis do on tape quite a bit in
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the first half when when that heat settled in, so
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: something to watch for.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Definitely good stuff. Check that out of Philly Voice. By
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the way, there's a darren Sproles jersey in the house.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: You see that, you'll know that every day? Do you
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: nice little darren Sproles jersey in the house. By the way,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: real quick, most I brought this over a your take
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: on it before we leave. Nakobe Dean is supposed to
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: come back, what next week or the week after? Could
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: they possibly use Jahad Campbell to utilize him in a
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Nolan Smith way?
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have to see first, like, because Nikobe
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Dean has to do a lot. He's he'll be able
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: to be back, but he hasn't even practicing. You know,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: it's not like he's gonna come back and then just
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: get on the field. This guy has not been able
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: to do anything all throughout the spring and the summer.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: So he's in my mind, he's gonna need a couple
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: of weeks just to get himself back into shape. And
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: at that point, you know, I don't know if you're
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: gonna want depending on what their Eagles are doing. You
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: don't take a first round pak who's playing well off
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the field, like you said, do you move the edge maybe,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: but I don't know that he's gonna be any any
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: better at the edge right now than what they're getting
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: from three guys. But there's certainly some opportunity that potentially
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: could exist. But the number one thing that has to
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: happen is Nikkobe Dane has to show he can still
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: play that position well coming off another big injury to
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: that the lower body area.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I was remember, like Michael Parsons his rookie year, like,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: when they had to move him to as an edge
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: rusher out of necessity.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Remember. I guess that worked out well for Micah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they never moved him back. They never moved him
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: out of that role. Really. All right, we'll catch up
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: to you on Monday, man, all
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  Speaker 2: Right, take care