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Bloody, Sexy and Jawdropping: 'House of the Dragon' Returns · Pop Culture Junkie®

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[Music]
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Welcome to the Pop Culture Junkie podcast. I'm Olivia here with my fellow junkie. I'm Shauna.
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And it's so sad to only have one Junkie with us, but I'm worried too.
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We'll have one other junkie with us today. One Junkie with each of us.
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I am your junkie. You are my junkie. Don't ask questions on the math. It's girl math.
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Okay. Girl, man. Did you like my girl dinner Snapchat last night? With all my pills.
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Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. How could I forget?
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It's just Millennial Girl Dinner. You have your melatonin, your antidepressants, your birth control, your vitamins.
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We're staying stacked. We're staying stacked.
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Staying stacked. Before we get into this very special episode,
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I wanted to give a quick minute to hear what you've been obsessed with.
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I have a feeling of what it's going to be, but I'm very excited to discuss it.
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Do you? I don't know. We'll see. How old do I know you?
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The boys. Is that what you're going to say? I was going to say Bridgerton.
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Oh, my God. That is true. Okay. Well, let me start with the boys and then we'll go to Bridgerton.
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Okay. So the boys came back for season four.
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Do you watch the boys and I don't remember if we've ever talked about this. I watched season one and then I totally fell off.
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But I have been seeing the discourse on Aaron Morty-R-E.
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So I'm excited to discuss that. Yeah.
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You need to get back on. This show is just ridiculous.
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And I also like the spin-off Gin-V.
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It's going to be sad to see how they do with season two because Chase Perdomo, like one of the lead actors from Gin-V passed away.
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I know. I loved him. But the boys is just like this show is not for the faint of heart.
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Okay. So Aaron Morty-R-E. Yes. Absolutely had some work done.
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I mean, it's her face. She's gorgeous no matter what.
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And I just hate that the internet is, "I like the old Aaron's face."
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Good thing is not your fucking face then.
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Yeah.
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And there's two other things that people are shocked about this season. One, conservative saying, "Is this show making fun of us?"
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Yes.
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It's been making fun of you for years. That is the whole...
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Did the boys go woke? The boys has always been woke.
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It's always been...
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Oh, this is...
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Is this play about us?
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Is this fucking play about us? It's giving that energy.
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The other one, I guess this is a slight spoiler for anybody who hasn't watched season four yet.
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Franchise bisexual... shocking.
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Ground breaking.
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Ground breaking.
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Florals for spring.
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Ground breaking.
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A bisexual French man in Pride Month.
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Ground breaking.
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It's so controversial.
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And he kisses a man this season.
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I bet.
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I think people are...
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Are they both hot?
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Oh, they're both so fine.
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They're so hot.
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I want more of that in my cinema.
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I'm not mad at those.
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And I don't know. I think people are review bombing it for those three reasons.
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Conservatives are mad that they're being made fun of, even though it's very obvious.
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Home of folks are mad that Franchise kissed a man and that Erin Moriarty dared to work on her face.
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Does that...
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The show itself is hilarious this season and as graphic as ever.
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I saw a Comic-Con interview with Jack Quaid where he was like, "Honestly,
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there was a scene this season that was so disturbing that like,
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I've never broken before and I totally broke and was like, I need a minute.
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I can't come back for a little bit."
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And I'm like, "Okay, that kind of intrigues me, but on the Erin Moriarty thing,
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she just did a New York Times profile."
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Really, unfortunately, I saw that clip of Jack Quaid and then that was the only thing
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I saw about the season and then I did see people were like, tanking it, but it's so stupid.
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I think it's a great show. It's a great commentary on politics.
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There's things from it that are very on the nose.
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Direct quotes that Trump has said, "Honlander will essentially say the same thing."
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You guys are all very special. Stand down.
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But this is a show where penises have exploded.
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Little men crawling into dicks.
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Yeah, it's a girl biting your eyes head to death.
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It's lived in and it's just like only going to get more ridiculous.
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There's a scene in a sauna this season.
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And I don't clutch my pearls much and I won't spoil it because it just came out.
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But I literally look both in my hands over my mouth and was like, "Oh my."
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I love that.
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I can bench you to watch Bridgerton.
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I think that means I have to catch up on the boys.
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I agree. I agree.
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I have also been watching Bridgerton because I feel like I was the only woman in the world
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who wasn't watching this fucking show.
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I'm still in season one.
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Although I do know some spoilers from the next two seasons about who the main characters are.
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Just over-arching. I know who wins up with who kind of things.
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But I'm still interested to see how they get there.
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So right now I'm at the point in season one where Daphne and Simon got married
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and they just had their first wedding night together.
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And she finally learned what sex was.
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And she's just mind-blowing.
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They're like, "Babe's come from Mama."
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We don't speak about such thing with young ladies.
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And then I text, "They're like being forced to marry because they kissed in the garden."
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And I text to Olivia and I'm like, "Can you imagine being forced to marry any man that you ever caught making out with?"
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And my response was the first person I ever kissed is in a gay happy relationship.
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So no, no. I cannot.
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But I'm very happy for him.
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I know.
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Looking back, I always make the joke that I have such a weird attraction to gay men.
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It's a coin flip. If I'm attracted to you, you're probably more than likely gay.
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Even if a coin flip is 50/50.
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It will say like 51%.
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51/49. But yeah, so that would make sense.
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But what a lavender marriage. Be that that? I don't know.
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Speaking of House of the Dragon.
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And season one, Renaren, as like a nice lavender marriage, right?
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Yes. That guy. And they have their little agreement that he can go be with men.
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And they seem pretty chill.
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Yeah. And the grand perspective of everything we're going to talk about today, it's just...
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It's not that bad.
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No, it's not that bad.
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If I married the first guy I ever made out with, it would definitely be a promised ring guy.
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It would have been a promise.
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You'd have so many scrapbooks. It'd be beautiful.
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I would do many good scrapbooks.
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I know. I'm enjoying Bridgeton so far.
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I did also text you to Daphne. It's not even like each other and you said it's debatable.
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It really is. It really is.
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But no, I love it. Season two is better.
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I think it's Anthony, right?
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Yeah, it's Anthony Bridgeton.
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The Vi Count. Vi Count Bridgeton.
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I really like that one. But I think my favorite is Queen Charlotte,
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which is like not a part of the Bridgeton seasons,
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but it's like in the universe.
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It's about Queen Charlotte, obviously.
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But is her love interest in it?
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Is he the king who has the Alzheimer's?
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Yeah, so it's the story about when they're young and when they mean,
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and how she becomes queen and all that stuff.
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So it's very good.
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It's very good.
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I have to give that a whirls in time.
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The sex scenes have been...
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No, I said crazy as I thought they would be.
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For some reason, I thought they would just be going at it in every episode.
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But they're really not.
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No, it's... What about Regency Era?
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It makes you think it's going to be more intense than 50 Shits of Grey.
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I don't know. For some reason, the only thing I do about Bridgeton was that
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the main character guy in Season 1 is so hot, which is very true.
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He's so fine.
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And also that they do it a lot.
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And so far, and they did it once that I've seen so far.
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And then Anthony hooks up with the opera singer.
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So yeah, I would say that they don't do it a lot, but it's very horny.
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It's how I would describe it.
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That's true.
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There's a lot of sexual pining.
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Yeah.
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It's a horny show.
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It is horny.
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Yeah, it's horny.
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And I liked how they filmed their first time sleeping together as husband and wife.
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How nice.
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He was like, "Look and stop if you want me to stop."
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No, and just like, "This might hurt."
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It was all very sweet.
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I thought it was very sweet.
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But I'm ready for some poundings.
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Yeah.
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Just like the boy is, it gets more lived in.
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It knows what it is.
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So I think it only gets better.
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One other thing.
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I finished a touch of darkness of that book that I heard you.
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Yeah.
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Listening to...
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Okay.
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So it would live in Iwery, California, months ago.
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The trip that I broke my foot on.
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Have we told this story in the podcast yet of me listening to you listening to this book?
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No.
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It's very nada.
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Yes.
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Listening to you listening to this book that I now listened to.
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And now we're talking about it on a show that other people listen to.
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Oh my god.
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Oh.
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Listen to it.
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Okay.
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So, lives on the bottom bunk.
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And I am on the top bunk, which is never going to happen again.
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Her ultimate demise.
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My whole life, it's my right-martitari soul's ultimate demise.
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But I digress.
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Live says, "In order to sleep, I need to listen to an audio book."
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Is that okay?
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And I was like, "Yeah, that's fine, I don't care."
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And so she turns it on.
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And it's on the horniest part of a book that I've ever heard in my life about this woman touching
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her.
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It's a lady's in Persephone.
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And I wouldn't say it's like romance.
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It's like sex.
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It's a sex book.
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Yeah.
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It's a step above a romance book.
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They say, "I love you eventually," but the crux of their relationship is doing it.
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And yeah, it's the Greek mythology of Hades and Persephone.
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So they make it really sexy, you know?
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Dude.
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So Olivia is the part in the book that she's at.
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Persephone is touching herself and Hades is watching.
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And I'm just on the top bunk, like, "Live, can you tell me the name of this book?"
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"Believe."
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Are you asleep yet?
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If you hear shuffling up here, pay it in a while.
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Well, you read that one a lot faster than Akatar, so I know which ones to recommend to you now.
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Yeah, I mean, to be fair, this one, I tried to buy it on Amazon, used, and then the order
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was canceled.
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And I was like, "Do I really want to spend 11 bucks in this book?"
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If only there was a big building that you could go to and, like, rent books for free and
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then read them and then give them back.
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Wouldn't that be incredible?
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Yeah.
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Or if there was, like, an app where they could just, like, end up in audiobook form on my
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phone, that would be insane.
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That would be crazy.
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So, yeah.
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I just listened to the whole thing, which I don't really count as reading, but I don't
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know.
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That's not fair.
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Reese Witherspoon just made a statement saying that she disagrees with that.
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Did she?
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Yeah.
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Listening is real reading or active consuming a book, which is ultimately reading, you know.
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She wouldn't say it in that weird of terms, but she vowed against it.
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She vowed against it.
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She does have a giant book publishing company that she has emotive.
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She has some motives.
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If Elle Wood says that listening to a book counts as reading, then I have read a lot of books
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this year.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Elle Wood.
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Okay.
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That's all I've been doing.
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What have you been listening to and watching and reading and all that jazz?
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So, I'm a little bit ahead of you in season three of Bridger Chin.
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I had the cutest little tea party with my friend.
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We watched it all.
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I saw that so cute.
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It was so good.
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I have my qualms about it, but I can't really talk about it because you don't really know
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where we are.
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Well, the character who's the main character that season is my favorite character in season
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one.
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So, I'm just like, can we get to season three?
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Yeah.
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I want to see if we can get her love.
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I think so.
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My ultimate spoiler free thoughts for Bridger Chin season three, part two, because I talked
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a little bit about it in part one is they changed the show runner and I don't love the choices
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that they made.
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I don't know if it's purely the show runner's fault.
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Interesting.
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But I think there was a very obvious difference.
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I also think it was very unfortunate that Netflix decided to break up the season.
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I think a lot of the criticism that came out from people was it was easier to paint on
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the first four episodes because it like really only got good at the fourth episode and
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then you install all this momentum.
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You just go because you want to get another like Netflix payment out of these people.
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Do I hate that?
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I started to cut you off.
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I just hate it when shows do that mid season hiatus and I know a ton of them do that even slowed
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me down and watching invincible, which is a really good show.
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And all the sudden it's gone for a couple months again and you're like, well, shit, I was just
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now getting into again after it had already begun.
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And now it's gone again and then you have stopped caring.
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And look, if you're like lost and you're giving me like a 25 episode season, go ahead,
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take a break.
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Exactly.
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I'm only getting eight episodes and you're giving me four at a time and a month apart.
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It wasn't even like two weeks apart.
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It was a month apart.
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So it just I think the way that they did it was pretty unfortunate.
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But yeah, no, I like some of the things they did.
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Again, the woke mob will be mad.
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Oh, no.
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The same people mad at the same people mad at the boys are going to also be mad at Bridgerton.
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Oh, there are gays.
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There are gays in Pride Month.
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Not the gays.
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They said, you know what?
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We can't release gay episodes.
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We got to wait till June.
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We got to wait till June to get the gays.
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We got to, we got a rainbow wash.
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We can't give it to them in May.
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I do have a guess for season one of Bridgerton and don't look, I won't look at you because
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I'll see it in your eyes if I'm right or not.
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But one of the Bridgerton boys, I forgot his name, Benedict.
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Oh my God, you're being that.
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I had the crazy eyes on you.
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I can't make my face that expressive right now.
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I just got fresh, fresh.
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Fresh.
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Fresh.
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Okay.
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I think that Benedict and that artist guy are going to oink the two men.
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I think they're going to go to ye old pound town Bridgerton speak.
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I will text you.
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I will text you.
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I end up being correct.
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Yes.
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The listeners will know, hopefully, because if we can be in shana and we haven't convinced
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you right in why you're still holding out.
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Exactly.
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If you hate love, just say it.
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Just say it.
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It's there's bonking.
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There's there's good people.
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There's hot people.
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Good job choices.
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Yeah, I like it so far.
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I like it.
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All around good things, all around good things.
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Well, the other thing that I have been absolutely obsessed with, which we are actually going
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to spend a long time talking about it coming up now because I have been so obsessed with
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it is house of the dragon.
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And so we're going to talk a little bit about the Game of Thrones universe as a whole.
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We will have spoilers for House of the Dragon episode one season two.
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We're going to save that for the end.
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So if you do want to hang around while we talk about Game of Thrones, how it ended the
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book, stuff like that, you can, and we'll let you know when to tune out.
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If you haven't seen episode one, we won't be talking about two or three yet, but we'll
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give you our thoughts on that week to week later on in our season of pop culture junky
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podcast.
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So we're going to take a quick break and then we'll come back.
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So as we mentioned, HBO's are a max.
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Should I say I refuse?
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I still call it HBO.
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Yeah, literally.
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Yes.
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I call it back.
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Come on.
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Max is a 10 year old boy in my mind.
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What are you talking about?
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It's not HBO.
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It's not HBO.
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He has one of those little hats with a little propeller on top.
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A yo-yo.
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I almost see him as you know, and Smash Bros. the boy character with a little baseball bat.
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Yeah.
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Anybody who plays video games, is it nice?
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Is like screaming right now.
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Yeah, I think it's nice, but I don't know pop off if we're wrong.
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Pop up in the comments.
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Yeah, but that's what I see when I hear Max.
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And so we're just going to roll with HBO.
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Like I mentioned, we're going to keep the house of the dragon and season two spoilers out
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of this.
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If you haven't seen season one, we're probably going to talk a little bit about that.
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So might not be the episode for you throughout.
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But I want to talk a little bit about what was your ultimate journey with Game of Thrones.
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When did you start watching it?
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Were you a big fan?
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I was a huge fan.
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Okay, let's see here.
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So what year did the show first come out?
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Then I can tell you where I was at.
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Let's see here.
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I actually, I'm so about eight years, but I started after season three.
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So that was 2015.
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That's not fun.
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Okay, it came out in 2011.
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So I did start watching it with my husband originally.
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Okay.
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Like season one.
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Yeah, we were there from the beginning.
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And we had friends throughout the years and every Sunday night, we would go to their house.
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And like we would all kind of pile on the couch and watch it together.
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We had that for walking dead for a while to kind of figure it off that.
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And then we switched to Game of Thrones.
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But yeah, it was like a big event every Sunday.
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Like you would get all of your friends together and watch Game of Thrones.
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And I loved it from the beginning.
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In hindsight, there are absolutely some points and parts that made me very uncomfortable,
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especially seeing how different House of the Dragon is, especially from a female perspective.
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Game of Thrones had some moments that were not necessary, trigger warning mentions of
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rape and incest, but we're going to, it's Game of Thrones.
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There's going to be some incest.
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So in hindsight, there were some parts that obviously made me uncomfortable, but really,
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the violence didn't bother me.
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Watching a man's eyeballs get summed out of his skull and the red wedding.
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Because that was the thing, right?
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It was so shocking.
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What was your reaction at the end of season one?
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Did you read the books, first of all?
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Because I did not.
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I have read the books, but I had not read the books before the show.
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So I was like a big show fan.
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Yeah.
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As soon as the show ended, I had a gaping void in my soul.
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Yeah.
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And so I was like, okay, I'm going to read the books right after that.
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I had them both in physical copy and then I ended up getting the audio book because they
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are so long.
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The most dense books.
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There's so much lore.
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I will say I read the books, I read all of them, and I was doing research to talk about
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this episode and some of the history of the books and all this stuff.
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And I'm like, oh my gosh, you could just tell me in fact and be like, you remember this,
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right?
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Totally.
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Totally.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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By now, it reminds me of reading the Bible I've been told is like, and then this man be get this
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man and then his son would be get this man.
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You're tried listening to it in audio book for a while, but then we kind of petered off
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too.
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Because I would be in the car if I'm how he was listening.
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But at the end of season one, when Ned Stark got beheaded, just the collective gasp that
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all the non book readers took because we thought he was going to be the main character.
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Yeah.
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You go up to that episode and you're like, oh my god, there's no way they're going to kill
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Ned Stark.
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He's the main character of the entire, oh my god, they killed him.
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And then you think, well, okay, yeah, Rob Stark's going to be the main, oh god, they killed him.
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That's what kind of show this outfit.
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Yeah.
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No one is safe.
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Yeah.
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And then you start thinking, I can't have a favorite character.
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There is no main, main character.
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I mean, eventually it became what John Danny Cersei, Tyrion, right?
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Yeah.
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And for anyone who didn't know, Game of Thrones is a book series.
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It's actually called A Song of Ice and Fire is the series.
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But the initial book was a Game of Thrones.
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It was published in 1996.
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And it came out to a warm reception, but it didn't know means had the cultural zeitgeist
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that the show did.
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And by the time the show came out, it was a very well acclaimed fantasy series.
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Around the same time it's like the Harry Potter books too for the first time.
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Yeah, in 1996.
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Yeah.
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And so Harry Potter, I think, just had that chokehold.
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And obviously Harry Potter's young adult and children.
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And he got more adult as time went on.
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And Game of Thrones is very much like an adult series.
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But I think Harry Potter just had such a grasp of like the fantasy chokehold of the world.
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Yeah.
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After Game of Thrones, we had a clash of kings in 1998, a swarm of swords in 2000, a feast
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for crows in 2005.
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And then we have a dance with dragons in 2011.
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And that's last one he released, right?
23:14
So he also released a different book as well.
23:17
It's called Fire and Blood.
23:19
I want to say that came on in 2017.
23:22
And that is a deeper look into the histories of House Targaryen.
23:27
So it has a lot to do with the dance of the dragons, which is ultimately what House of
23:34
the Dragons HBO show is based on.
23:36
Interesting.
23:37
So House of the Dragons is based on a book that he wrote after all of the Game of Thrones.
23:43
Interesting.
23:44
But it's like an earlier history.
23:46
So the Targaryens obviously come out of power by the time that we start a Game of Thrones.
23:53
And I think when I look back on the series of Game of Thrones, what I really think of is
23:58
God, one through five are some amazing pieces of television.
24:04
He's incredible.
24:05
So good.
24:06
And where they start to get off their rocker is season six and season seven.
24:11
Now, I still think that it's good.
24:13
We're going to talk a lot about the ending of Game of Thrones, you know, ultimately everyone's
24:19
first real HBO heartbreak.
24:21
Oh, honestly, oh my God.
24:24
There was controversy about the way that the sopranos ended.
24:27
And I feel like a lot of times your favorite show, you build it up so much that it has to have
24:32
this perfect ending, but there's very rare fanalities that you finish.
24:36
And you're like, yeah, that was perfect.
24:38
I think the Buffy finale was pretty flawless.
24:41
I think breaking bad was a great.
24:44
Oh, like the breaking bad finale was so great.
24:47
It was great.
24:48
It was like the city finale was pretty good too in the France finale.
24:51
I think they wrapped up most of the storylines, but then there's those heartbreakers like Dexter
24:57
and Game of Thrones and you just want to throw your remote through your telephone.
25:01
Yeah.
25:02
It feels like a real disservice.
25:03
And if you're like us where you're like, okay, after season five, it really started to
25:09
go downhill.
25:10
And I think this is the ultimate crux that ruined it.
25:13
So George R.R. Martin has been very involved with Game of Thrones all the way up.
25:18
Until season five.
25:21
And season five starts to get to, it's very interesting that they didn't want his involvement
25:27
after season five because I didn't know that.
25:29
I thought he just kept it away.
25:31
Yeah.
25:32
And George R.R. Martin has said that he does not know why he was less involved, but that
25:37
he became less involved.
25:39
But season five kind of ends where the last book ended.
25:45
So the last book is the dance with dragons or the last in chronological order.
25:50
Yeah, yeah, I got you.
25:51
And so where the books end happens is we don't know if Jon Snow is going to come back.
25:57
Will he be resurrected?
25:58
Oh, man.
25:59
That finale where he dies, dude.
26:02
Another one where we all just are.
26:06
Those finalies were so fucking good.
26:10
Like Jon Snow dying, Danny walking out of the fire naked, like powerful, right?
26:16
Mm-hmm.
26:17
Oh, yeah.
26:18
And in the book, you have Daenerys who has just escaped Marine on Dragon.
26:24
Tyrann has just escaped Essos and is trying to figure out where he's going to go next.
26:31
He's going to try to meet Daenerys.
26:34
Dennis Baratheon is about to face the Boltons and I hate Stanisly.
26:40
Arya is still with the faceless man in the last book.
26:44
She hasn't even made her way back to have the revenge for the red wedding and all of those
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things.
26:50
What?
26:51
God, I wanted that storyline to have so much more on than it did, right?
26:55
It was so badass that she was training with the faceless man.
26:57
She did get revenge and she killed the old man with all the child brides that was daughters.
27:04
Walter Frey?
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Yes.
27:06
Yeah, and I mean, she killed him and that was badass.
27:07
But I think that was one of my gripes with Game of Thrones, right?
27:09
Some things were built up to be so incredible.
27:11
We were like, "Yeah, yeah."
27:12
And then I was like, "Oh, okay."
27:14
Oh, yeah.
27:15
Well, I was kind of thinking about it when I knew that we were going to talk about this
27:20
here together.
27:21
And as someone who watched the show, it maybe had an idea of kind of what the book was
27:28
trying to say or where the lore was left off at, where the song was headed.
27:34
Yeah, where you thought it was.
27:35
And the Prince who was promised.
27:38
Exactly.
27:39
The Prince who was promised, dude.
27:40
And like, I remember being on message boards and being like, "John is really a Targaryen
27:45
and he's the right booking."
27:47
And then they went there and we were all excited because the fans called it.
27:52
But then it kind of fizzled.
27:54
Yeah.
27:55
I think the ultimate crux, and it is hard when you're taking a book to a TV show.
28:01
Like you have to cut some things out.
28:03
But unfortunately, the things that they cut out were a lot of the magic.
28:07
It's really good.
28:08
But a lot of the magic actually propels and has all this prophecy and the blood magic
28:14
created the dragons and all these things.
28:16
So without the magic and the elements to it, it makes it really hard to get where they
28:22
were going because they cut all of that development out.
28:26
Now.
28:27
Does it Catlin Stark come back as like a resurrected zombie?
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Yeah.
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And it's like a big part of the books.
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Yeah.
28:34
And it's a large storyline.
28:36
But they don't do any of that.
28:38
And I think that would be hard.
28:39
But they cut out a lot of the magic and things like that.
28:43
They just said that they're doing another spin off.
28:47
I'll have to actually look at it.
28:48
I saw that literally today.
28:50
Like earlier.
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Old men, the first men of the Andals.
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Yeah.
28:55
And I know that they either canceled the John Snow Show or that Kit Harington was no longer
28:58
available.
28:59
I don't know if I want another spin off right away.
29:02
I'm so invested in House of the Dragons and they're doing such a good job so far.
29:05
I really have very few complaints about House of the Dragons so far.
29:09
The story that I want is the doom of Old Beliria.
29:13
I want to know how the dragons were made and I want to know what the hell happened there
29:20
because it's basically like a pompe, like a whole world was destroyed.
29:25
They founded Westeros because there was a vision from Aegon's sister, one of the sister wives.
29:32
Aegon.
29:33
Which one?
29:34
The first one, Aegon the Conqueror.
29:36
But one of his sister wives had a vision that they have to go to Westeros and escape because
29:42
something bad was going to happen.
29:43
And so that is like the whole story of everything we know in that history.
29:47
So you want to go back to the very beginning of all this?
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Yes.
29:50
And how they created the dragons because the dragons were created, it's pretty messed up.
29:57
They're created from Bloodmagic and the Targaryens sleep with the dragons.
30:03
They mate with the dragons.
30:05
I guess that's not too shocking just because they keep calling Daniels the mother of dragons
30:10
and the blood of the dragons.
30:13
They literally are because they're like, yeah, it's weird.
30:16
And we saw how they made the White Walker reason.
30:19
That was obviously with some kind of Bloodmagic right.
30:22
They like the children of the forest like stabbed that man.
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Yeah.
30:27
So the story that they're saying that they're going to do is what leads to the initial event
30:34
where like the White Walkers get created.
30:37
Interesting.
30:38
So that's the story that I would cover.
30:41
But how do you feel about how the saga of the White Walkers ended in the show?
30:48
Because I was pretty disappointed with it.
30:51
I feel like there was so much build up throughout the entire show.
30:55
Winter is coming.
30:56
Winter is coming.
30:57
Like it's kind of a joke and spoiler, but they say that phrase and season two of House
31:01
of the Dragon and me and my husband had looked at each other and were like, really winter
31:04
is coming.
31:05
It's 250 years, maybe.
31:07
But like, yeah.
31:08
Yeah.
31:11
The White Walkers, like it built it up to be such a threat.
31:14
And then it kind of like, mm-hmm.
31:15
It wasn't even the series finale.
31:16
It was just, like, I don't know.
31:18
So my controversial opinion about the ending of Game of Thrones is that I don't hate
31:27
the ending.
31:29
I hated the pacing.
31:31
And so I feel that.
31:33
If season six and season seven were actually like four seasons, I think they could have
31:40
made it work.
31:41
So spread out why Danny is losing her mind.
31:44
It felt so rushed.
31:45
She went from being so stable and we're all rooting for her to all the sudden she snaps,
31:50
right?
31:51
She loses it.
31:52
Yeah.
31:53
And I know she witnessed like her best friend dying and she's going through all those
31:55
traumas, Cersei's a bitch.
31:57
Yeah.
31:58
There needed to be more, I was going to say, build up, but really a slow descent into
32:02
madness.
32:03
And I think that would have been more earned to see her.
32:07
Well, like one of the things that they actually talking about in episode one of season two is
32:14
how for the entire history of the dragons, none of the dragons would go past the wall.
32:23
Now they cut that out of Game of Thrones, the original show.
32:27
Then it really talked about the magic beyond the wall and of the dragons were afraid of
32:33
it and they refused to go there.
32:35
I didn't like it.
32:36
They'd gone the conqueror.
32:37
And so they cut that out.
32:39
They also cut out Danny and the dragon that she loses to the night king.
32:46
Oh, so dragon.
32:47
Yeah, yeah.
32:48
Her had this telepathic connection.
32:51
And she was that dragon was specifically like obsessed with her.
32:55
And so the show chose to really only do Drogon as like the close one, but she had this like
33:01
deep connection with the dragon and losing that was like such a deep thing to her.
33:08
And you know, they cut out a lot of like juxtaposition and understanding of that would
33:13
help the viewers see why she's going crazy and not just, you know, oh, her dad was nuts.
33:20
So she's destined to be nuts.
33:21
I don't know.
33:22
It just felt so forced and quick and shocking and not in the way that we're used to game
33:28
with her always being shocking in that all of the sudden Pedro Pascal is getting his
33:33
school crush.
33:34
But it's sexy, baby.
33:37
That's sexy.
33:38
The sexy is school crushing of all time in Santa.
33:41
Yeah, but that brought us the famous person that is Pedro Pascal nowadays.
33:47
We would have never gotten that call me daddy lie detector interview without game of
33:52
throne.
33:53
So this is true.
33:54
I mean, oh my god.
33:55
What a scene.
33:56
What I'm saying is those scenes were shocking, right?
33:58
But like a good shocking where by the end of the episode, we were all jumping up and down
34:02
and screaming and going, what the hell?
34:03
Oh my god.
34:04
And like the red wedding and the purple wedding.
34:07
Danny losing her mind and like burning everything.
34:12
We the episode finished and we were all just like, what the fact.
34:16
Yeah.
34:17
Okay.
34:18
Well, I guess we're not really rooting for Daenerys anymore.
34:21
I also, yeah.
34:23
I also, yeah.
34:24
Like John is to be stupid, right?
34:25
That's too, right?
34:26
I don't know.
34:27
I also think the way that Bran ends up on the Iron Throne, I actually really think that
34:34
makes sense because like why have we been following his journey to the North?
34:40
Like why did he have to connect with the old gods?
34:42
I think it makes sense.
34:43
Yeah.
34:44
But they just didn't give it time.
34:46
Exactly.
34:47
And then that was very rushed and thrown at the end and the whole point of the show is, well,
34:51
you know what?
34:52
Maybe it's not the whole point of the show.
34:53
The title of the show is Game of Thrones.
34:55
So at the end, who's going to end up on this throne?
34:58
Mm-hmm.
34:59
And then on this, it's Bran, which I agree.
35:01
It was fine.
35:02
I wasn't that mad at that.
35:04
I kind of liked that it wasn't somebody that we expected.
35:07
Like John or Danny or Cersei or even Tyrion in the end.
35:11
It was Bran.
35:12
Yeah.
35:13
It was just shuffled in right at the last minute, right?
35:16
And then Jamie hooking up with Brienne.
35:20
That was just fan service.
35:21
Yeah.
35:22
Very much fan service.
35:23
Yeah.
35:24
So what's interesting is when they had all this blowback.
35:28
So Benny often wise, where the producer in this show, the big controversy and media story
35:34
is that they were going to go do Star Wars after the season ended.
35:41
And they were trying to wrap up Game of Thrones really, really quickly so they could go on to Star
35:46
Wars.
35:47
People freaked out so badly that they ended up losing Star Wars because people were so upset
35:54
with them about Game of Thrones.
35:56
They made Disney boot them.
35:58
So it ended up not even working out for them.
36:00
But they didn't say that despite George R.R. Martin kind of taking a back seat in season
36:06
five, when they figured out they were going to end the show, they asked him, where are
36:10
you going to end the series?
36:13
And he gave them what he thought he was going to do.
36:18
And I think ultimately the reaction from the fans is why we still do not have the last
36:26
two books.
36:27
I totally agree.
36:28
At this point, George R.R. Martin has two choices, right?
36:33
Write the books like he told the creators of Game of Thrones and stay true to the television
36:38
show.
36:39
Which he knows people don't like or completely say, fuck the TV show and write the ending
36:48
that he thinks that everybody, but maybe the other one was the one that he wanted.
36:52
And now he already got us all hearing that we hate it.
36:55
And so he goes, oh shit, well, okay, let me change everything and then give us the story.
37:02
What I think would be really cool.
37:04
You remember those shoes, your own adventure books?
37:09
And maybe this is why it's taking him so long, theory times, giving us like seven endings.
37:15
He's writing them both.
37:17
He's writing the way the TV show ended and then an alternate ending.
37:22
And these are the two endings.
37:24
Choose which one you like.
37:26
Choose your own ending story.
37:27
It's like butterfly effect back in the day that Ashford Kutcher would be and they give
37:31
us.
37:32
I love that movie so much.
37:33
Do I love that movie?
37:34
We should watch that movie next time.
37:35
Yes.
37:36
Come over to your house.
37:37
Yes.
37:38
I don't know, I could forever.
37:39
Yes.
37:40
Obsessed.
37:41
Where they give you like the two different endings though, when he tells off the girl and the
37:44
other one where he kills himself in the womb, which is the superior ending because Holy
37:48
Shed.
37:49
I'm going to self abort.
37:52
Thank you.
37:53
Thank you.
37:54
Well, the millennial can't relate to that.
37:56
Yeah.
37:57
Self abortion.
37:58
Yeah.
37:59
Exactly.
38:00
Honestly, I feel like he's not going to release it.
38:03
Like I think he has, because he has Windsor Winter and then a dream of spring.
38:08
I think that's the titles.
38:10
Yeah.
38:11
So he is.
38:12
Those are the two books that he has left that he said he's going to put out in the series.
38:16
And I think this is my crazy one.
38:19
I think that he's finished them both, but he's not going to release him until he dies.
38:23
Like it's going to be like in his.
38:26
No one can get mad at these dead.
38:29
Yeah.
38:30
That's what I think.
38:31
Honestly.
38:32
I don't think George Aramarton.
38:33
He's like 78 plus.
38:35
Unfortunately, Google it.
38:36
Is he like, oh, this guy's going to die or is he like, ah, he's old, but like, I don't know
38:42
if he's in the best health.
38:44
How old is George Aramarton?
38:47
75.
38:48
Did you hear my Siri?
38:49
He went, uh-huh.
38:50
He's so fucking sassy.
38:53
He's 75.
38:54
He's old.
38:55
But he's not like running for president.
38:58
Old.
38:59
Right.
39:00
I don't know if he's in the best of health.
39:01
Now, what I will say after we just dogged on the game of their own series, I do think that
39:09
House of the Dragon is much better set up for success.
39:13
Oh, I love it so far.
39:15
It's a completed storyline, aside from Danny, which we won't see in this timeline.
39:21
Yeah.
39:22
The time period that we're looking at is like a completed and a finished history.
39:28
Exactly.
39:29
When this eventually comes to a close, it'll be how George Aramarton wrote it and how he
39:34
wanted it to close.
39:35
I'm really enjoying it so far.
39:37
I mean, I think that it has the violence of Game of Thrones, maybe not to like the extreme
39:44
that Game of Thrones did, but some of the scenes do make you like, oh, God, that guy's head
39:49
getting sliced in half in season one.
39:51
Oh, yeah.
39:52
Okay, here comes the portion of the show.
39:54
We're going to talk about House of the Dragon.
39:56
So if you haven't watched season one, do now.
39:58
It's childbirth?
39:59
Oh, my God.
40:00
I didn't want to have children anyway, but yeah, definitely.
40:04
I want to.
40:05
Yeah.
40:06
And I think you mentioned at the beginning, like you prefer the way that they're covering
40:11
it in House of the Dragon compared to the kind of Game of Thrones lens.
40:16
It, I think, a lot of the scenes with the women in this show are showing how the battles
40:24
that they faced, although it wasn't war and hand-to-hand combat.
40:28
They were in just as brutal of situations.
40:31
And I thought that was very well done and totally agree.
40:36
When you think back to Game of Thrones, there's things that people think about was, oh, my God,
40:40
it was so good when it was good.
40:42
The finale and final season sucked, but also why was there so much rape, right?
40:47
And especially rape of a female character that was used just to advance a male character's
40:52
plot.
40:53
The only reason Sansa was raped, which doesn't even happen in the books, right?
40:56
They combine her story with another character.
40:59
The only reason she was raped in the series was for the shock of it and to advance fucking
41:05
reeks storyline.
41:06
Yeah, where he has his redemption, yeah.
41:09
Exactly.
41:10
I do like that so far in this show.
41:13
I mean, and it's a medieval show.
41:15
There's going to be incest and sketchy sex scenes, obviously.
41:20
I think that kind of, I don't know.
41:22
We're not going to get rid of it, right?
41:23
There's some implied rape in the House of the Dragons.
41:26
But we're not forced as the viewers to watch a brutal rape scene of a woman just to advance
41:32
a man's plot so far.
41:33
So far.
41:34
So far, so far.
41:35
So far.
41:36
So far.
41:37
They could show.
41:38
Does the point is, yeah, this is just us covering.
41:40
We're going to talk about episode one, watch episodes two and three.
41:43
Just be like, yeah, it's going to be a girl to it is.
41:46
I know.
41:47
Yeah.
41:48
So I would say, if you're like, be and you're watching this show or when you first started
41:53
watching this show, you're like, okay, where are we?
41:56
In the timeline.
41:58
House of the Dragon, the show is happening about 200 years before Game of Thrones happens.
42:06
Before Daenerys Targaryen, as they put it in the title for season one.
42:11
Yes.
42:12
Yes.
42:13
And then Aeglon's Conquest, which was the first one.
42:17
So when he comes to Westeros, that is 100 years before House of the Dragon.
42:25
Now the Mad King, who is a part of Game of Thrones, he's about 15 to 20 years before Danny.
42:31
Because that's Danny's father.
42:34
Yeah.
42:35
Correct.
42:36
And so that's kind of where you are at a placement inside the time.
42:40
But I think it is really interesting.
42:42
The Targaryens are still very new to Westeros in the time that we're seeing them.
42:48
So they've only been there for about 100 years.
42:52
And what I found was really interesting is the High Towers, Auto High Tower and Allyson
42:57
High Tower.
42:58
Yes.
42:59
They're the oldest family in Westeros.
43:02
And so it's the newest and the oldest kind of coming together in this partnership.
43:08
But then ultimately in season two, we see it as the Civil War among the Targaryens.
43:14
Do you hear a mention of the High Towers at all in Game of Thrones?
43:17
I don't remember hearing about them at all.
43:19
Maybe like a one-off line.
43:20
But they're not.
43:21
No.
43:22
They're not a major family.
43:25
Their land is Old Town, which the Tyrells have taken over Old Town by the time that we see
43:32
them in there.
43:33
So a little bit of foreshadowing.
43:35
You're like, oh, I don't know the High Towers.
43:38
And so the High Towers, they're known for their use of a wildfire and the High Towers.
43:45
Yes.
43:46
And then you have the Targaryens who have Dragon Fire.
43:50
And so it is this very, the oldest in the newest wildfire, Dragon Fire.
43:55
So it is this very interesting part.
43:59
Of course, when we meet them in House of the Dragon, they have a ton of dragons.
44:06
And so Dani's power of having three dragons that no one else has, there is this ability
44:13
to fight each other.
44:15
And we're going to see eventually throughout this series what happened to all the dragons.
44:18
200 years isn't that long of time in the course of history either.
44:23
So something happened in these 200 years that wiped out dragons that they became just
44:27
like a old wives tale essentially.
44:31
Yeah.
44:32
And I would argue that what we're going to see is going to be a large casualty of dragons.
44:39
And so it's not ultimately like the catastrophic event, but it will limit the dragons.
44:46
Absolutely.
44:47
And we're going to see our re-pity scene because over time they've gone to the forest.
44:51
We've already seen what two dragons die so far.
44:54
I think so.
44:55
Yeah.
44:56
Yeah.
44:57
And they're getting older, the bigger ones are getting slower and things like that.
45:02
So when season one ended, who side were you on?
45:06
Oh, I'm absolutely on Reneer's side.
45:09
Yes.
45:10
100%.
45:11
There's no doubt in my mind.
45:12
When Viserys is on his deathbed, and by the way, the CG of him aging and decaying, disgusting,
45:20
but so well done.
45:22
Just disgusting.
45:23
It's just disgusting.
45:24
But it was one of us.
45:26
And he mentions on his deathbed like the name Aegon, right?
45:32
And he's talking about Aegon the conqueror.
45:35
Aegon the conqueror.
45:36
A song of ice and fire.
45:38
Yes. And his wife is thinks that he's referring to their son Aegon.
45:44
And I argue that this entire show could be solved if everybody just stopped naming their
45:49
kids fucking Aegon.
45:50
Yeah.
45:51
I was going to put 11 Aegons.
45:53
Yeah.
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There are 11 Aegons in this series.
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That's not that great of a name, you guys.
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Think of something else.
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I was with my parents on Father's Day because they released a song, Father's Day.
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And I was trying to give them a recap.
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And they were like, okay, well, when within the time period, who's this first?
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And I was like, did they watch Game of Thrones?
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Yes, they did.
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Okay, thank God.
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And you say, because otherwise you're just like, just shut up and watch it like I do.
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Yeah.
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But that almost made it worse because then they were like, well, how does that fit into
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this one?
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Yeah.
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Where's John Snoke?
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Was that the mad king?
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Well, it was different.
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Was it the Aegon the conqueror?
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And you're like, God damn it.
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I'm looking at the Targaryen family tree.
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Like you will be confused.
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Like the same.
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I mean, because they're all married to their own fucking sisters and stuff.
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Even in, okay, spoilers.
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We're going to talk about episode two here in a little bit.
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Oh, episode one.
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You're right.
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Season two, episode one.
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King Aegon walks in and he's like, this is the queen.
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And I went, isn't that a sister?
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Oh, yeah.
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No, Targaryen.
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Yep, they're a Targaryen.
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I would say most people left season one with that same thought.
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Now, again, episode one of season two.
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Are there some people that are house great?
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Yes.
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Yeah, it's like a thing.
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What?
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No.
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Yeah.
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And so now, though, at the end of season two, episode one, we ultimately, it's so down.
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Blood and cheese are the names of the two guys that we made at the very, like, last 10
47:31
minutes of the episode.
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And it's a very important part in the book that tells the story.
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And I was going to say it's such an important part of the book and it's such an important part
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of this episode.
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And obviously for really setting forth the civil war for the rest of the series, and it's
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given to two guys named Blood and Cheese.
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Yeah.
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Like, I love that.
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Yeah.
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And ultimately, the show really tunes it down.
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The main criticism, which y'all are sickos if you said this, if you read the books and then
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watch the show, they want to see it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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A little kid getting their head cut off.
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Yeah.
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There is some heading of a literal child of the episode and they don't show it, but you hear
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it.
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Yeah.
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The sound effects are gross.
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But okay.
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So in the books, I need to see that.
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In the books, they at this time period have two sons.
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And so rather than making her choose between a daughter and a son, they say, which of your
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sons do you want to die?
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Oh, sure.
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And she says the younger one, Maylor, I think is not the heir.
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Yeah.
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And then they end up killing the heir and saying, you hear that little boy, your mother wants
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you dead.
48:46
Oh.
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And then they kill him and they leave.
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And ultimately that's what makes her go crazy.
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She's already crazy in the show.
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Well, she has Targaryen visions, but no one believes her.
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I just realized in the beginning of that episode, she says the rats are coming.
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Yeah.
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Oh my God.
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I didn't even think about that until literally right now.
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Aegon comes in and he's like, what's up, darling?
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And she says the rats and everyone looks at her like she's the rat.
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Yeah.
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And well, okay.
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So she has two visions that come through.
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Allyson tells Aamond, you'll have a dragon one day.
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And she says, I'll have to lose an eye first.
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So it gets his eye taken.
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And then when Raynise comes up with the dragon out of the floorboards and like, it's here,
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I'm trying to floorboards.
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Well, she kept saying there's a beast in the board.
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There's a beast in the board.
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There's a beast in the board.
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There's a beast in the board.
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There's a beast in the board.
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So she is predicting everything, but no one listens to her.
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She reminds me of an avatar, Elaine.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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Everyone thinks that she's just babbling crazy, but she's actually having visions that they
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need to be listening to.
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Hopefully they start to realize that with House of the Dragons.
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But I feel like they're not going to--
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I think she's going to go worse now.
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I think so too.
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I mean, she just watched her son die and she's a product of deep incest.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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So what's interesting is--
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I think Cersei and Jamie were obviously evil in their own.
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Yeah.
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But they are immediately introduced as an incest couple.
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And people hate them immediately from that.
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But then you look at Raniera and Damon and people are like, "Oh, yeah."
50:34
And that's why they think it's because we're just so desensitized to Game of Thrones incest
50:39
that we're just kind of like, "Well, yeah.
50:42
It's not the worst we've seen.
50:43
At least they're not identical twins."
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I mean, even in the end of Game of Thrones, Danny is John's aunt.
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Yeah.
50:51
We were all wanted them to bang so bad.
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Yeah.
50:54
I don't know if we all just kind of--
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Yeah.
50:58
I don't know if it's because we have been told through all of Game of Thrones.
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Like, about something, the Targaryen thing.
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That's a Targaryen thing.
51:05
That's a Targaryen thing.
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That's a Targaryen thing.
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So we kind of knew to expect it.
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Yeah.
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It's very interesting.
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I think that it's so taboo with the Lannisters with the Targaryen.
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It's just literally it occurred to me.
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Oh, that's a sister.
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Ew.
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And then I went, "Oh, yeah."
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Yeah.
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We're the first episode of Game of Thrones.
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You're like, "Holy shit, these people are disgusting."
51:29
And Saikno incest is disgusting.
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It is gross.
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Make that clear.
51:34
Make that clear.
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We do not condone incest of the pop culture, check these out, guys.
51:38
Yes.
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And in fantasy game of Thrones, and it's a Targaryen, maybe, maybe.
51:45
No, I think Damon and Reniro, I shipped them so hard in season one, even though it was disgusting.
51:51
Yes.
51:52
Yeah.
51:53
I love them too.
51:54
I think their relationship is going to be really interesting.
51:58
Oh, yeah.
51:59
This blood and cheese.
52:00
She's going to be furious.
52:02
He better be furious too, because that's not at all what he asked for.
52:05
He didn't say kill any old son you find.
52:08
He said kill this specific dude.
52:10
Yeah.
52:11
In the book, it's, he only makes the decree a son for the son.
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So he leaves you a little vague.
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Yeah, but they make him look a lot better in the show, which is interesting.
52:23
I think the showrunners keep saying it is so weird to me that everybody loves Damon.
52:29
Because we love Matt Smith.
52:30
Yes.
52:31
Yeah, everybody is like, "It's just like he's so hot."
52:33
Like, I don't know.
52:34
It's the doctor.
52:35
You can't be mad at the doctor.
52:36
Yeah.
52:37
I'm charming.
52:38
That he makes it worse.
52:39
I don't care that he doesn't have eyebrows.
52:41
He's so fine.
52:42
Yeah.
52:43
Yeah.
52:44
But I think it's going to be interesting.
52:45
I think the story is nobody wins in the end.
52:49
Oh, absolutely.
52:50
No.
52:51
The chargherons come out of power.
52:52
But I think it's going to be a brutal season.
52:55
I haven't read the books.
52:57
So I have no idea.
52:59
In my mind.
53:01
And obviously it's a prequel.
53:02
So eventually these characters are going to die and catch up.
53:06
I think Renere and Alice Center are both going to have their brutal ends at some point in
53:10
this show.
53:11
I hope they have some moment where they both reunite and realize, "Oh, fuck.
53:16
I miss you.
53:17
I love you too little, too late."
53:19
And then they both die bloodly.
53:22
I don't think, like you said, there's not going to be a happy ending for anybody.
53:25
House high tower obviously doesn't exist anymore.
53:29
The chargherons go into extinction.
53:31
I don't think there's going to be a lot of happiness to be had over the course of this
53:35
show.
53:36
The fans.
53:37
We're going to be happy because we're going to be very happy.
53:40
Bloody and sexy and jaw dropping.
53:42
But nobody in the show is going to have a happy ending in the slightest.
53:46
Yeah.
53:47
Ultimately, I have been consuming so much PR and so much press for this House of the Dragons.
53:54
I love all of their friendships so much.
53:57
Like the puppy interview.
53:58
Oh, my God.
53:59
Olivia, I love Emma Darcy.
54:01
I love Emma Darcy.
54:04
I love that they are this non-binary, gorgeous person.
54:10
Oh, my God.
54:11
So fine.
54:12
People really respect their acting ability and their talent.
54:16
And then they find out that this person is non-binary and they're like, "Oh, I can see
54:21
that.
54:22
I can get that."
54:23
And they have a connection in a way that they haven't really before.
54:26
And I think it's just beautiful.
54:27
I do too.
54:28
And I love that their co-stars are standing up for them because there's been a couple
54:31
of points that Emma has been misgendered over the press tour because of the Dragon.
54:37
And they will or their co-workers will just be like, "Oh, it's actually they."
54:40
Yeah.
54:41
Oh, shoot.
54:42
Oh, my God.
54:43
Matt Smith had the most perfect correction.
54:48
They kept calling Emma a "she" and you went, "Yeah, they really are amazing."
54:55
And they just care about their craft.
54:57
And he did it so classy, but like they caught on.
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Like, come on.
55:00
Come on.
55:01
They really try.
55:02
And I was like, "God, he's so hot."
55:05
Oh, God.
55:06
He's so hot.
55:07
And you know what the thing about him is he's not like, we've talked about this a lot before.
55:11
He's not one of those dudes who's like, traditionally attractive.
55:14
Yeah.
55:15
But he's so hot.
55:16
A man who's going to stand up for your pronouns is Dr. Who and is also Damon Targaryen.
55:24
Like, yeah.
55:26
You can keep the wig.
55:27
You can toss the wig.
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I love it.
55:30
Keep it on.
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You can use your magic screwdriver on me.
55:34
Yeah, baby.
55:37
I'm still waiting for our viral.
55:39
Oh, Stunnan.
55:40
Oh, Stunnan.
55:41
I'm not going to season, but I think Olivia Cook, it has some really funny moments throughout
55:47
this one.
55:48
And she is just such a beautiful creature.
55:51
Oh, my God.
55:52
She's so gorgeous.
55:53
I love that her and Emma are like besties.
55:55
I watched them interview where she was like, who's your favorite scene partner in Emma
56:00
said, you, she said, OK, no, no, no, no, no, besides me, besides me.
56:06
My favorite scene partner.
56:09
You.
56:10
Yeah.
56:11
Oh, God, you.
56:12
Yeah.
56:13
No, I love it.
56:14
I'm really excited to see where the show goes.
56:16
I love Sunday night television.
56:18
I'm such a sucker for this.
56:19
I love this about pop culture.
56:21
It's like those shows that we all watch, right?
56:25
And I don't care if some people know every character's name and they know their history and they
56:32
know the Targaryen bloodline.
56:34
And other people are just like, I like the blonde guy.
56:38
I don't care.
56:39
I like that.
56:40
It's a discussion.
56:41
It's a discussion and it's something that kind of takes the sweeps us all up like Tiger
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King did or breaking bad or game of thrones.
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Yeah.
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Any of that stuff.
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I love those moments in pop culture.
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Yeah, I think if you can do it in 2024, it's just a damn good show.
56:58
If everyone's talking about it, it's good because there's so many options that people can
57:04
do.
57:05
There's so much fun with it.
57:06
And if so many people are all watching something or talking about it, it's going to be
57:10
good.
57:11
And if you somehow avoided watching Game of Thrones, first of all, your will, your tenacity,
57:18
I think you could save the world.
57:20
But that is my sister-in-law.
57:22
People watch it and at this point, she's literally just like, I can't watch it because everyone
57:26
else is watching it.
57:27
I'm like, okay, you fucking have a stir.
57:28
I love you.
57:29
But also watch the damn show.
57:32
Yeah.
57:33
I feel like if you are one of those people, House of the Dragon is a really great one to watch.
57:39
You do not have to have seen Game of Thrones.
57:42
Exactly.
57:43
Like we said, it's 200 years in the future.
57:46
And they're-- Game of Thrones is too long.
57:50
I guess you were saying the same thing.
57:53
Yeah.
57:54
So you don't have to have seen Game of Thrones to know what happens.
57:57
I think it's a good example of the show.
58:01
The books are amazing.
58:02
We're going to be praying when it comes out before good old George R.R. Martin dies.
58:07
He's your G.
58:08
Does he have any kids?
58:10
Maybe he's kiddos, really.
58:11
I think he does.
58:12
I think you do remember his good.
58:14
Yeah.
58:15
But then it has the Dune treatment, right?
58:16
It could get bad.
58:17
It could get bad.
58:18
I want him to finish the books.
58:20
Yeah.
58:21
I don't want him to be like his son or someone else.
58:22
They do start getting weird in the Dune books once the kids take over.
58:26
Yeah.
58:27
And so I'm so excited.
58:29
I think that we'll continue to read all the fantasy, talk about the shows that are getting
58:36
adapted from it.
58:37
Yeah, I agree.
58:39
And if there is anything in this episode, like if you are a die hard fan of this universe
58:44
and we messed up somewhere in the episode, give us some grace.
58:47
But don't show it.
58:48
Let us know.
58:49
Yeah.
58:50
Give us a five star review and let us know in that review that we got something wrong.
58:54
But the five stars is the most important part.
58:57
The five star is the important part.
58:58
Yeah.
58:59
Exactly.
59:00
Oh, I love it.
59:02
Well, that was almost as long as an episode as one of these books that we've been talking
59:07
about for so long.
59:08
Should we end the episode in some murder or some sex or something then?
59:12
Oh, I think with a little blood magic.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I think that sounds good.
59:19
Yep.
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We're both in our periods.
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It's perfect.
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Yeah.
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That's the end of this whole episode, baby.
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That's the blood magic, right?
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All right.
59:28
I got it.
59:29
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59:33
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