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- 0:24Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. I was going up the elevator
- 0:29Speaker 1: in one of Paul's guys, I won't mention his name.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Worried about our left tackle, very concerned, very concerned. And
- 0:36Speaker 1: this is before practice. John Wrightson and Paul will love
- 0:38Speaker 1: this email. Are you guys only going to slam Drake
- 0:41Speaker 1: May for two hours? He's been excellent every other day?
- 0:44Speaker 3: Throw that out. Fred mentioned earlier the feathered throat of
- 0:47Speaker 3: Stefan Dicks, you know right over Craig Woodson.
- 0:50Speaker 4: Kyle Williams, the favorite.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Did you see that one?
- 0:52Speaker 4: Ye? Kyler Williams finding touchdown when.
- 0:55Speaker 3: They work in the in the in the red zone.
- 0:57Speaker 4: It's not that hard, but it has.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Tony told me I wear glasses to see distance.
- 1:07Speaker 4: Yes, I mean that's I wear contact lenses so I
- 1:09Speaker 4: can see. Otherwise I would walk into that's a long
- 1:13Speaker 4: way away.
- 1:14Speaker 1: So why don't you use the binoculars.
- 1:15Speaker 5: I don't like binociars. I like to see everybody. I
- 1:17Speaker 5: don't want to just see the two guys that you
- 1:19Speaker 5: can see in the monoculars.
- 1:20Speaker 1: That's not how binoculars work.
- 1:22Speaker 6: This email though, he's right in so we would stop
- 1:24Speaker 6: talking about it, And now we're just gonna double down
- 1:25Speaker 6: on talking about Drake's day, just.
- 1:27Speaker 3: Like I don't.
- 1:28Speaker 4: I don't really have time for children.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Listen, size matters, okay, all right, well it does, and
- 1:33Speaker 1: not enough players talk about like, you know, all of
- 1:35Speaker 1: a sudden, like I can't imagine going from college hockey
- 1:37Speaker 1: to pro hockey in the puck's.
- 1:38Speaker 6: A little bit longer now, I mean mentally, I guess
- 1:41Speaker 6: I'm saying more for the physical aspect of yes, are
- 1:43Speaker 6: you ready to go?
- 1:44Speaker 7: Choose?
- 1:44Speaker 1: Like Miami can be taxing and Massachusetts tax Free Weekend
- 1:47Speaker 1: is coming up.
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- 1:54Speaker 1: dot com. All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is
- 2:00Speaker 1: Thursday here at Jillette Stadium and we're just off the
- 2:03Speaker 1: practice field where the Patriots had a walkthrough in tennis shoes.
- 2:09Speaker 1: So it was a light workout today. They're kind of,
- 2:13Speaker 1: I think, treating today like a day before a game
- 2:16Speaker 1: because tomorrow they have an in stadium practice for season
- 2:21Speaker 1: ticket members in Foxborough, residents, other VIPs, and that'll be
- 2:27Speaker 1: sort of a mock game, you know. They'll treat that
- 2:30Speaker 1: like a game where they have the down a distance,
- 2:33Speaker 1: the crew, the chain gang referee. I assume. I think
- 2:37Speaker 1: I had a referee tomorrow. I don't know about referees,
- 2:39Speaker 1: but I don't know a lot of that. Yeah, but
- 2:41Speaker 1: they'll try to simulate a game as much as possible.
- 2:45Speaker 1: You know, they'll have a a halftime, quotes, come back out, offense,
- 2:51Speaker 1: defense and all that. So just to get ready for
- 2:54Speaker 1: next week, because next week is the first preseason game.
- 2:58Speaker 4: Yes, like that joint practice is Wednesday. I well get
- 3:01Speaker 4: right after.
- 3:01Speaker 6: It feels like in some ways this is kind of
- 3:03Speaker 6: the end of training camp portion and we're going to
- 3:05Speaker 6: get into the preseason next week.
- 3:06Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a proper delineation.
- 3:08Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's Dus, it's Paul will be joined
- 3:11Speaker 1: by Evan shortly, we'll be joined by Alex as well
- 3:15Speaker 1: and a special guest in our second hour.
- 3:18Speaker 4: I hope they're wearing white, because we look like we
- 3:19Speaker 4: just came from a white party here with all the
- 3:21Speaker 4: three of us. Yeah, tight white. I don't have that
- 3:23Speaker 4: kind of money.
- 3:24Speaker 1: We just copped it in from the Hamptons. Yeah, all right,
- 3:29Speaker 1: So you know, like I said, today was just a walkthrough,
- 3:32Speaker 1: So not much to really talk about today other than
- 3:34Speaker 1: who was there, who wasn't there, But you know, good
- 3:37Speaker 1: time to kind of recap the week maybe and as
- 3:40Speaker 1: we head into this stadium practice tomorrow.
- 3:44Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's one headline is mccollins is back out,
- 3:46Speaker 6: So that's a good sign, and looked like he jumped
- 3:49Speaker 6: right in and it was active played for Josh McDaniels
- 3:52Speaker 6: and the Raiders. So we've all known that Josh has
- 3:55Speaker 6: a plan for how he wants to use mac collins,
- 3:57Speaker 6: and now we'll start to see how he fits into
- 4:00Speaker 6: this loaded wide receiver room yep, loaded loaded well with
- 4:04Speaker 6: people crowded, with people crowded as another team wide receiver room.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the fact. And you know, Rabel had
- 4:13Speaker 1: his press conference yesterday he talked about Carlton Davis and
- 4:15Speaker 1: he said he's on a plan, you know, and he's
- 4:18Speaker 1: out there today running with you know, the first team
- 4:22Speaker 1: in the walkthrough. So that tells me that they wouldn't
- 4:25Speaker 1: do that if he wasn't in the cards for a while.
- 4:28Speaker 1: You know, so he'll be back soon, sooner than later,
- 4:31Speaker 1: I think. So I like seeing him out there doing
- 4:35Speaker 1: the walkthrough with the other defensive players.
- 4:38Speaker 6: Yeah, interesting week for him next week, just with the
- 4:40Speaker 6: Commander's coming and joined practices. Do they ramp up with
- 4:43Speaker 6: him and let him compete against those guys or is
- 4:45Speaker 6: that a let's protect him. I don't think he'll play
- 4:48Speaker 6: much in the preseason game, but we'll see.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Because I don't even know why he's not practicing. I
- 4:52Speaker 1: don't know what his deal is now.
- 4:54Speaker 4: It's a little strange, A little strange.
- 4:55Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean these things are always you don't know
- 4:57Speaker 6: exactly what the plans are, what injur he might have had.
- 5:00Speaker 4: But we've talked a lot about his situation, starting off.
- 5:03Speaker 6: On an FI and then he's back and we've only
- 5:05Speaker 6: really seen him in walkthroughs now.
- 5:06Speaker 4: So I think it's.
- 5:09Speaker 5: Four or five of the last seven practices he hasn't
- 5:13Speaker 5: participated in.
- 5:14Speaker 4: In the two that he did, we're both walked through.
- 5:16Speaker 4: So whatever it is.
- 5:18Speaker 5: Is not overly serious to Fred's point, but they're to
- 5:24Speaker 5: me when you miss all of the practices, like right now,
- 5:26Speaker 5: they're not monitoring Christian Gonzales. We know he's dealing with
- 5:29Speaker 5: something with his leg right, So to me, it's not
- 5:32Speaker 5: just like Harold Landry is he's getting monitored. That's he
- 5:35Speaker 5: was given sort of like one of those veteran day
- 5:37Speaker 5: offs yesterday. So I think there's a little bit back
- 5:41Speaker 5: and forth. Do I think it's concerning, No, until I
- 5:44Speaker 5: find out otherwise, I'm not going to be concerned that
- 5:46Speaker 5: Carlton Davis isn't going to be physically ready for the
- 5:49Speaker 5: start of the season.
- 5:50Speaker 4: But I do think it's a little bit more than
- 5:52Speaker 4: just plan.
- 5:54Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean, you know, I don't
- 5:56Speaker 5: think you missed that many practices is just part of
- 5:58Speaker 5: a plan. Like Morgan Moses is out there, he's in
- 6:01Speaker 5: and out of the team, that's a plan.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well I don't you know, Davis is he's
- 6:04Speaker 1: got something going on, right, and he's on a plan
- 6:08Speaker 1: to come back based on what that is. But I
- 6:10Speaker 1: have no idea what that is.
- 6:12Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I agree.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Yeah. So Garrett Bradberry, Uh.
- 6:20Speaker 6: We saw the same line today with Ben Brown at
- 6:23Speaker 6: center and Jared Wilson at left guard. Who's the you know,
- 6:26Speaker 6: the toast of the town for the moment, which is
- 6:28Speaker 6: which is great?
- 6:28Speaker 4: I mean It's a great sign.
- 6:30Speaker 6: Hopefully he is able to continue to improve and and
- 6:33Speaker 6: take advantage of all these reps he's getting, because right
- 6:35Speaker 6: now it seems like they're settling in on the five
- 6:38Speaker 6: that they that they like. I mean, we'll see how
- 6:40Speaker 6: it affected when Bradberry does get back, but that might
- 6:44Speaker 6: be the answer at left guard. That was one of
- 6:46Speaker 6: the biggest questions we had coming into the season, and
- 6:48Speaker 6: I didn't totally see Jared Wilson competing immediately for that spot.
- 6:53Speaker 4: I thought he was more of a center.
- 6:54Speaker 1: And maybe I thought he'd be just waiting in line
- 6:56Speaker 1: for center. But in fact, they like they no, they
- 7:00Speaker 1: they want to see him playing football on this team
- 7:04Speaker 1: sooner than like.
- 7:05Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, it's clear that they like him. And
- 7:07Speaker 4: you know, just even just.
- 7:09Speaker 5: Listening to Kayden Wallace talk about him yesterday, I think
- 7:11Speaker 5: that that he sort of made an impression. I have
- 7:14Speaker 5: a question, Mike. I don't know if you were the
- 7:16Speaker 5: one that that brought this up. I feel like someone
- 7:19Speaker 5: throw Cole Strange as sort of a surprise cut candidate
- 7:24Speaker 5: a long time ago. I now believe that Cole Strange
- 7:27Speaker 5: is a surprise Cup candidate.
- 7:30Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 7:31Speaker 3: I don't even know if it's a surprise.
- 7:33Speaker 4: I don't know how much of a surprise. I mean,
- 7:34Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 7:34Speaker 5: You spend the whole first week and with the first
- 7:36Speaker 5: guard and then you're not on the team.
- 7:38Speaker 4: I think that would be a surprise.
- 7:40Speaker 1: I think you could trade him for a second.
- 7:43Speaker 4: Maybe two. Yeah, it's I mean, it's disappointing. It might
- 7:46Speaker 4: be might be the end.
- 7:47Speaker 6: I mean he's snapping now with the injuries that they
- 7:49Speaker 6: had to Brad Burry, and he's on the second team,
- 7:51Speaker 6: So it's it's I mean, it's Brent Brown at the top,
- 7:54Speaker 6: who had been really kind of the third string for
- 7:57Speaker 6: a large portion of of early reps. And yeah, Cole
- 8:01Speaker 6: Strange probably just trying to find a way might take
- 8:03Speaker 6: an injury. Some looks like Kayden Wallace now is elevated
- 8:06Speaker 6: to that second left guard spot, So it seems very
- 8:09Speaker 6: possible at this point without injuries, and of course we
- 8:13Speaker 6: still have a ways to go that.
- 8:14Speaker 5: He could get And I'm not writing Cole Strange's roster
- 8:17Speaker 5: spot off yet because I think what they're doing right now,
- 8:20Speaker 5: like I think Cole Strange.
- 8:21Speaker 4: Is ahead of Caden Wallace at left guard.
- 8:23Speaker 5: I think what they're trying to find out is if
- 8:26Speaker 5: Cole Strange isn't starting at left guard, there's their value
- 8:29Speaker 5: for him being able to play.
- 8:30Speaker 4: All three spots the center.
- 8:32Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're trying to figure out if he can
- 8:34Speaker 5: play center, yeah, because I think that they were a
- 8:37Speaker 5: little concerned for some of the reasons that Evan Is
- 8:39Speaker 5: mentioned with Wilson at center, but not the least of
- 8:42Speaker 5: which is he's had some issues with the exchange. So
- 8:46Speaker 5: I think they're trying to figure out exactly what they
- 8:48Speaker 5: have behind brad Berry at center if need be, and
- 8:52Speaker 5: if Cole Strange can't play multiple spots, then I think
- 8:55Speaker 5: he has a chance to not be around.
- 8:58Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 8:58Speaker 3: I mean it's really hard to make the team as
- 9:01Speaker 3: a backup interior lineman without having position flex like if
- 9:05Speaker 3: you're locked in to one position on the interior line.
- 9:11Speaker 3: It had to be a situation like Jared Wilson's a
- 9:13Speaker 3: draft pick and is the top one hundred pick and
- 9:15Speaker 3: they're gonna keep him in the pipeline. But it's hard
- 9:18Speaker 3: to if you're you're three four five and you come
- 9:22Speaker 3: in and you really only can play left guard or
- 9:24Speaker 3: you can only play center. You know, you don't see
- 9:26Speaker 3: a lot of guys kept as like depth in that situation,
- 9:30Speaker 3: and with Jared Wilson that I've always I've thought that
- 9:34Speaker 3: gard would be the easiest path for him on the
- 9:36Speaker 3: field as a rookie. I think center is his best
- 9:38Speaker 3: long term position just in terms of the mechanics of
- 9:41Speaker 3: the line.
- 9:41Speaker 1: But why do you think that?
- 9:43Speaker 3: Because center is a lot like Mike linebacker or like
- 9:47Speaker 3: it sets the pace of the offensive line, so like
- 9:49Speaker 3: how much speed and range the line has a lot
- 9:52Speaker 3: of times can be dictated about like how athletic your
- 9:55Speaker 3: center is. So when you have like a really dynamic
- 9:57Speaker 3: athlete at center, it just allows you to do some
- 10:00Speaker 3: things in space and you know, outside zone screens like
- 10:04Speaker 3: things like that that can be really dynamic. Like obviously
- 10:07Speaker 3: the apex of it is Jason Kelcey, right, Like having
- 10:10Speaker 3: a center like that you can really run almost you know,
- 10:13Speaker 3: really helps you a lot. So having him at center
- 10:16Speaker 3: probably makes them a little bit more dynamic in terms
- 10:20Speaker 3: of that. But I left guard, all he's got to
- 10:23Speaker 3: do is block the guy in front of him, right,
- 10:24Speaker 3: he's not thinking about line calls, and he's not thinking
- 10:26Speaker 3: about snapping, and he's not thinking about, you know, are
- 10:29Speaker 3: we in the right protection or are we in the right.
- 10:31Speaker 3: Is mic points set correctly here? And is it three down?
- 10:34Speaker 3: Is it four down?
- 10:35Speaker 4: What are we calling this?
- 10:36Speaker 3: Instead you can just say, oh, we got I got
- 10:38Speaker 3: a guy lined up over me and I'm gonna block him.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I heard. They certainly think that Wilson's
- 10:44Speaker 1: a smart player, like he's got a high football IQ. Yeah.
- 10:48Speaker 4: How often?
- 10:49Speaker 6: How common is that for players to maybe play one
- 10:52Speaker 6: position along the offensive line as a rookie and then
- 10:54Speaker 6: eventually end up with another spot.
- 10:56Speaker 4: Does that happen a lot?
- 10:57Speaker 6: I mean, because people are still talking about We'll Campbell
- 11:00Speaker 6: could eventually end up at guard, So is it Would
- 11:03Speaker 6: it be weird to say in two years from now
- 11:05Speaker 6: that Wilson's the center and Will Campbell's the guard, But
- 11:09Speaker 6: they played their first year or two.
- 11:11Speaker 4: As the left guard and the left tackle. Is that strange?
- 11:13Speaker 4: Does that happen? I think they have two on the
- 11:15Speaker 4: same offensive line.
- 11:16Speaker 5: It's probably strange, but everyone would probably have more detailed
- 11:19Speaker 5: experience off the top of his head. But I feel
- 11:21Speaker 5: like there's a lot of guys that play different. You
- 11:23Speaker 5: know a lot of times it's one side or the other. Yeah,
- 11:26Speaker 5: you know, a lot of elite left tackles even the
- 11:29Speaker 5: elite ones played right tackle their.
- 11:32Speaker 4: Rookie year and then they move over.
- 11:34Speaker 5: And there have been you know, like the Brandon Sheriffs
- 11:37Speaker 5: of the world I can never pronounce that name. Start
- 11:41Speaker 5: at tackle and they end up at guard. So I mean, yeah,
- 11:44Speaker 5: I think there's probably a fair amount. But to have
- 11:46Speaker 5: two guys on the same line both change is probably
- 11:50Speaker 5: a little bit different.
- 11:51Speaker 6: I know that it's common guys just can't quite hang it,
- 11:55Speaker 6: you know, hack it at tackle and they move inside.
- 11:56Speaker 6: I think that that's pretty common. But just generally play
- 12:00Speaker 6: a like left guard and then going to center. It's
- 12:01Speaker 6: this is interesting to me. It's interesting.
- 12:03Speaker 4: I agree, you know, but I think they're a little different.
- 12:05Speaker 6: Yeah, but ultimately just want the best combination you know
- 12:08Speaker 6: that you can get.
- 12:09Speaker 4: So well, yeah, we'll see how it plays out this year.
- 12:11Speaker 3: Just how much of it is about one they just
- 12:14Speaker 3: want Wilson out there to get the experience of playing
- 12:17Speaker 3: and develop him. But also too, you know, how much
- 12:20Speaker 3: to what do they feel about col Strange right now
- 12:22Speaker 3: and where he's at. So, you know, if they feel
- 12:25Speaker 3: like Bradbury is their best center and they want to
- 12:28Speaker 3: get Jared Wilson on the field, there's really only one
- 12:30Speaker 3: way to do it, and it's to have him play
- 12:32Speaker 3: left guard. So it makes so much.
- 12:33Speaker 4: Sense the way you laid it out.
- 12:34Speaker 6: I mean, how perfect, Like you don't have to put
- 12:36Speaker 6: the mental load on him yet, but he's going to
- 12:38Speaker 6: get used to playing. It's it's generally you know, a
- 12:40Speaker 6: similar spot being inside. But yeah, interesting, I just I
- 12:43Speaker 6: don't recall that happening a lot, but it seems to
- 12:45Speaker 6: make a lot of sense that the team might want
- 12:47Speaker 6: to do.
- 12:47Speaker 5: And I know, like I think sometimes we make too
- 12:50Speaker 5: much of these kinds of things. I wouldn't completely rule
- 12:55Speaker 5: out the fact that, you know, this regime brought in
- 12:58Speaker 5: Garrett Bradberry is a free agent. This regime drafted Jared Wilson,
- 13:02Speaker 5: who they really like. The last regime brought in Cole Strange.
- 13:08Speaker 5: So if you have the dilemma that Evan just unfolded
- 13:13Speaker 5: for us, Okay, it's not the worst thing to go
- 13:16Speaker 5: with odd guys, right, And I think that does happen.
- 13:18Speaker 4: Should we make too much of it at times?
- 13:20Speaker 5: Yes, It's not like teams sit Tom Brady because he
- 13:25Speaker 5: was part of the previous regime to play Mac Jones
- 13:27Speaker 5: because he's our guy.
- 13:29Speaker 4: You know, that's not what we're talking about.
- 13:31Speaker 5: You know, we're talking about situations that you know, it's six'
- 13:33Speaker 5: one half dozen the Other i'm gonna go with our,
- 13:35Speaker 5: guy a.
- 13:37Speaker 6: Customer the scheme too, though you, know LIKE i know
- 13:39Speaker 6: exactly what you're, saying not just being the, guy but
- 13:41Speaker 6: it might. Be, look we brought this guy in because
- 13:43Speaker 6: he can do what we want him to, do and
- 13:45Speaker 6: these other guys aren't quite the fit schematically. Anybody you,
- 13:48Speaker 6: know it's not just a personal, thing it's it's really
- 13:50Speaker 6: based in how they.
- 13:51Speaker 3: Play that's happening all over the offensive, line like What
- 13:54Speaker 3: paul is, saying Like Leaden robinson And city so just
- 13:58Speaker 3: not really in the mix at all with the top.
- 14:01Speaker 3: Group so those guys were drafted By bill and drafted last.
- 14:05Speaker 3: Year With Leyden robinson's, Case Cayden wallace is now at
- 14:08Speaker 3: guard to this coaching, staff when last year they had
- 14:11Speaker 3: even talks about him at left, tackle let alone you,
- 14:14Speaker 3: know playing inside at. Guard so just a lot of
- 14:18Speaker 3: these guys that are, holdovers recent draft, picks it seems
- 14:22Speaker 3: like they're kind of going with their, guys which is. Understandable, okay.
- 14:28Speaker 4: Good offensive line, Talk, Freddie.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Yeah Oh wide receivers from where you thought
- 14:36Speaker 1: the room was stacked going into. Camp has it changed
- 14:40Speaker 1: in your?
- 14:40Speaker 6: Mind, NO i think it's just been kind of solidified to,
- 14:44Speaker 6: me especially WITH.
- 14:46Speaker 4: Mtc hollins coming.
- 14:47Speaker 6: BACK i MEAN i look At Booty, Hollins, Williams, Diggs,
- 14:49Speaker 6: douglas that five and you Know, Born Jalen, Polk Jaymon
- 14:55Speaker 6: baker who's come on a little. BIT i think that
- 14:57Speaker 6: they're hanging on by their fingernails right. NOW i don't
- 15:00Speaker 6: think that they're off the, roster but those three guys
- 15:03Speaker 6: might ben maybe one spot for those three, guys but
- 15:06Speaker 6: the top FIVE i think are kind of cemented in my.
- 15:09Speaker 3: Mind, YEAH i think right now is just a question
- 15:11Speaker 3: of you, know outside RECEIVER x, Receiver like how is
- 15:15Speaker 3: that depth chart gonna work itself? Out when you Have
- 15:17Speaker 3: Matt collins comes back today and he's right in, there
- 15:20Speaker 3: and Then Kayshawn boody's had a nice camp and he's,
- 15:23Speaker 3: involved And Javon baker's had a few flashes and like
- 15:26Speaker 3: those are that's sort of the. Three Maybe Kyle williams
- 15:29Speaker 3: is part of that as, Well so you, know how
- 15:31Speaker 3: exactly does that shake? Out AND i also can't help
- 15:34Speaker 3: but when every practice Noticed Kendrick bourne is just out
- 15:37Speaker 3: of place with the guys that he's playing. With and
- 15:40Speaker 3: what ends up happening With Kendrick, BOURNE i think is
- 15:42Speaker 3: an interesting topic because they might prioritize some of the
- 15:46Speaker 3: younger guys to develop those, players you, Know Kyle, Williams Javon,
- 15:49Speaker 3: Baker Jalen, Polk Efton. Chisholm you, know those guys might
- 15:54Speaker 3: be more if you're gonna keep him as like the sixth,
- 15:57Speaker 3: receiver you might want to keep a rookie that you're
- 15:59Speaker 3: developing instead of a guy Like Kendrick bourne who kind
- 16:02Speaker 3: of know who he. Is so can they Trade Kendrick?
- 16:05Speaker 3: Bourne is there something out there for? Him is it
- 16:07Speaker 3: Maybe patriots trade a player that they don't really have
- 16:10Speaker 3: a plan for for another team's player that they don't
- 16:13Speaker 3: really have a plan, for and that sort of. TRADE
- 16:15Speaker 3: i just every TIME i look, UP i feel Like
- 16:18Speaker 3: Kendrick bourne is playing with guys he doesn't belong. With
- 16:20Speaker 3: and it stands.
- 16:21Speaker 5: Out the way That mike's put, IT i would agree,
- 16:25Speaker 5: with you, Know and maybe the one, slight very small
- 16:29Speaker 5: as surprise would be That booty has seemed to be
- 16:32Speaker 5: so much ahead Of bourn not necessarily that the same,
- 16:35Speaker 5: spot Because booty's playing THE x And bourne has done
- 16:39Speaker 5: a little bit of. Everything but it certainly seems That
- 16:42Speaker 5: booty has established himself As i'm with these guys over,
- 16:46Speaker 5: here and As evan, Said bourn's with the secondary.
- 16:49Speaker 4: GUYS i wonder if maybe they. HAVE i don't know
- 16:53Speaker 4: how you guys.
- 16:54Speaker 5: Feel do you think there would be any chance that
- 16:56Speaker 5: you could get a guy Like bourn if you liked
- 17:00Speaker 5: him but wanted to keep younger guys to, develop and
- 17:03Speaker 5: maybe you wanted to Get born on the practice squad
- 17:06Speaker 5: as a veteran for, Insurance like right, now there's really
- 17:11Speaker 5: no need For, Born but If diggs gets banged, up
- 17:17Speaker 5: do you want to Put polk out there? Right Or
- 17:21Speaker 5: Kendrick bourne out there? Right you, know something like.
- 17:24Speaker 6: That it's a great, POINT i, think BECAUSE i look
- 17:26Speaker 6: At Kyle williams as the young kid that we're going
- 17:28Speaker 6: to have to get his feet wet a little. Bit
- 17:30Speaker 6: he's probably not going to be in every, game every,
- 17:32Speaker 6: down certainly. Not but how many of those young guys
- 17:35Speaker 6: that are unproven do you want to? Handle do you
- 17:37Speaker 6: want to Give Javon Baker polk like all those guys
- 17:40Speaker 6: are i'd see is in a similar. Bucket But, Born
- 17:43Speaker 6: you're totally, Right paul is not in that. Bucket he
- 17:45Speaker 6: is an established. Receiver if you had to throw him
- 17:48Speaker 6: in there in a, game he'd be ready to, Go
- 17:49Speaker 6: so that that might be an advantage for him that
- 17:51Speaker 6: they And.
- 17:52Speaker 5: Evans trade possibilities to me or they would ABSOLUTELY i
- 17:55Speaker 5: would rather trade him and get something for him than do,
- 17:59Speaker 5: that you, know just try to stash him on the
- 18:01Speaker 5: practice Squad i'm talking, about rather than just let him
- 18:04Speaker 5: go and lose him for. NOTHING i wonder if there's
- 18:07Speaker 5: any chance that you could get him on the practice.
- 18:09Speaker 4: Squad it's a tough blow, though to, him just to
- 18:11Speaker 4: consider putting a veteran, on you.
- 18:13Speaker 6: KNOW i, mean that's a that's a hard CONVERSATION i
- 18:15Speaker 6: would assume to, have you, know having put him.
- 18:17Speaker 5: Down but we've seen this with these new rules the
- 18:20Speaker 5: LAST i don't, know four or five years since since
- 18:23Speaker 5: the veterans have been eligible for the practice.
- 18:24Speaker 4: Guard maybe not even that. LONG i don't, know it.
- 18:27Speaker 4: Happens who was the guy that they did it to.
- 18:31Speaker 5: Last year they had a veteran receiver that they Put
- 18:33Speaker 5: they tried to the Returner Jalen rager and it didn't
- 18:38Speaker 5: work to your yea. TOO i think the point that
- 18:41Speaker 5: both of you guys are, MAKING i think that's what
- 18:43Speaker 5: their plan was was to try to do, that and
- 18:46Speaker 5: HE i think he bitched.
- 18:47Speaker 4: About it and they ended up letting him.
- 18:49Speaker 3: GO i, mean to be, fair Kenner bourne is a
- 18:51Speaker 3: better player Than jalen.
- 18:52Speaker 5: ABSOLUTELY i was just thinking in terms of a veteran
- 18:54Speaker 5: receiver who probably felt he was above.
- 18:58Speaker 3: THAT i just feel like it's, tough like he's he's
- 19:00Speaker 3: not subject to, waivers so like he's gonna be a
- 19:03Speaker 3: street free agent the second that they cut, him so
- 19:05Speaker 3: he can sign with any of the thirty one, teams
- 19:07Speaker 3: and like he's a SERVICEABLE nfl. RECEIVER i just can't
- 19:11Speaker 3: imagine that he would make it to a practice. SQUAD
- 19:14Speaker 3: i feel like he would be able to sign with
- 19:16Speaker 3: a team at some. Point your point about like having
- 19:20Speaker 3: him as depth is. GOOD i just do you want
- 19:23Speaker 3: to prioritize that Over LIKE i Know Afton chisholm is
- 19:28Speaker 3: is not your cup of, Tea, paul but like evidently
- 19:31Speaker 3: either if they really see something In Fton chishlm as
- 19:34Speaker 3: a slot receiver of the, future like kind of like
- 19:36Speaker 3: they saw With, edelman where like it might take a
- 19:38Speaker 3: couple of, years but eventually we are gonna feel like
- 19:42Speaker 3: this guy can can play for. Us you, know if
- 19:44Speaker 3: they really feel that way about ft And, chisholm is
- 19:46Speaker 3: it do you Cut Efton chisholm to keep a guy
- 19:50Speaker 3: Like Kendrick, bourne you, know who doesn't have long term
- 19:54Speaker 3: plans here right In New? England and that those are
- 19:57Speaker 3: the tough. Decisions like Obviously Afton chishm probably has a
- 19:59Speaker 3: better chance of being on the practice, SQUAD i would,
- 20:02Speaker 3: think unless he has a preseason and he goes crazy
- 20:05Speaker 3: in but that those are the CONVERSATIONS i feel like
- 20:08Speaker 3: they're gonna have to. Have is, like you, know we
- 20:10Speaker 3: have upside With, baker we have potential upside With. Chisholm
- 20:13Speaker 3: we kind of know What bourn, is you, know do
- 20:16Speaker 3: we want to keep these guys instead of?
- 20:17Speaker 6: Him BUT i think Even polk And baker could be
- 20:19Speaker 6: practice squad guys. TOO i, mean all those GUYS i
- 20:21Speaker 6: think would make it. Through and it's just how like you,
- 20:24Speaker 6: said how do you stack it all?
- 20:26Speaker 4: Up what do you? Want? Insurance what?
- 20:27Speaker 6: Spots so, yeah it's it's but right now it seems
- 20:30Speaker 6: pretty clear to me that you're gonna.
- 20:31Speaker 5: ROLL i always find it fun to play those games
- 20:34Speaker 5: like there's no. Answer no one knows until it, happens
- 20:37Speaker 5: but we all say.
- 20:38Speaker 4: No no way he getting through.
- 20:39Speaker 5: It LIKE i would JUST i would probably say polk
- 20:42Speaker 5: is a second round. Pick someone might, say, no we
- 20:45Speaker 5: kind of liked. Him we thought there was something. There
- 20:47Speaker 5: he could use a change of. Scenery Whereas, BAKER i
- 20:50Speaker 5: think probably he was red flagged by a lot.
- 20:52Speaker 4: Of teams coming out of the draft that.
- 20:54Speaker 5: YEAR i think a lot of people probably weren't interested in,
- 20:56Speaker 5: them and if if he gets released right, away they're
- 20:58Speaker 5: probably gonna, say, well, see that's that's why we weren't
- 21:02Speaker 5: interested in him in the first. Place he flamed out.
- 21:03Speaker 6: Already that's what's, interesting, though is is you know YOU
- 21:06Speaker 6: i still feel Like Javon baker's got this ceiling out, there,
- 21:08Speaker 6: that's you, know mysterious ceiling because he's got athletic, talent and.
- 21:12Speaker 4: You guys are, right He's he's made a few plays.
- 21:14Speaker 6: The LAST i mean, honestly through the first few days
- 21:16Speaker 6: it felt, like oh, man HE i, mean even through
- 21:18Speaker 6: OTAs And mini, camp like he didn't seem like he
- 21:21Speaker 6: was getting out of that hole any and but credit to,
- 21:23Speaker 6: him he's made some plays and you, know hopefully he's
- 21:26Speaker 6: been performing behind the scenes as. Well but you, Know
- 21:29Speaker 6: polk's a second round. Pick stanaker's got a ceiling stacking.
- 21:32Speaker 6: Days they're out there every. Day, now, yeah that's good
- 21:35Speaker 6: for these these. Receivers they need to be out.
- 21:37Speaker 5: There, Obviously poke got a slow, start but you know
- 21:39Speaker 5: he's been in pads every, day and you know that's
- 21:42Speaker 5: the only way that these guys are going to cover.
- 21:44Speaker 4: Od role for. Themselves those are the guys in joint.
- 21:46Speaker 4: PRACTICE i feel like that we'll have real opportunity to
- 21:49Speaker 4: get a lot of.
- 21:49Speaker 6: REPS i don't think they're going to run digs out
- 21:51Speaker 6: there very much against these, guys certainly not in the.
- 21:53Speaker 6: Preseason so this will be the stuff to watch in the.
- 21:55Speaker 6: Preseason this is probably where these questions will be.
- 21:58Speaker 5: Answered but it's THE i think you're right to focus
- 22:00Speaker 5: on the joint practice because the preseason, game you, KNOW
- 22:05Speaker 5: i think we get lost in that because it's it's,
- 22:08Speaker 5: flashy and you, know it's it's my time to.
- 22:11Speaker 4: Shine i'm not just missing preseason.
- 22:12Speaker 1: Games put some stuff on discount, furniture BUT.
- 22:16Speaker 5: I think it's much more important for those guys to
- 22:18Speaker 5: show and get opportunities in the joint, practice BECAUSE i
- 22:23Speaker 5: do think they'll run digs out there in the joint
- 22:25Speaker 5: practice with the first. GROUP i think those guys are
- 22:27Speaker 5: going to be out there like we see every day.
- 22:29Speaker 5: Now but did the other guys get a chance and
- 22:33Speaker 5: when they, do do they make them most of the.
- 22:34Speaker 3: Opportunities maybe it's just my my my draft take THAT
- 22:38Speaker 3: i won't let die With Javon. Baker LIKE i Like
- 22:40Speaker 3: Javon baker coming, out AND i was really excited when
- 22:43Speaker 3: they drafted, him but to do this his, pointed but like
- 22:45Speaker 3: he had he makes some plays where it's just like
- 22:48Speaker 3: specimen type, plays you, know like where he's just blowing
- 22:51Speaker 3: past the defense and catching that touchdown From Drake may
- 22:54Speaker 3: earlier in the, week or you, know he high pointed
- 22:56Speaker 3: one in the red zone where he went to level
- 22:58Speaker 3: ten and the corner only get to seven and he
- 23:01Speaker 3: was just, yeah exactly on his Head and that's exactly
- 23:05Speaker 3: what you see from. Him and it's just consistency and
- 23:08Speaker 3: like buy in and just being a pro and like
- 23:11Speaker 3: being able to do it every single day and like
- 23:13Speaker 3: if that can click for him he's got so much,
- 23:15Speaker 3: Talent like he has so much raw, talent and his
- 23:18Speaker 3: skill set is so different than some of the other
- 23:21Speaker 3: guys that they, Have like he's he's a much different
- 23:23Speaker 3: mover than Like Keaishan, Boodie like he's got those long
- 23:26Speaker 3: strides and he's got some deep speed and he's got
- 23:29Speaker 3: that yeah, right and you know Or Kyle williams who's
- 23:32Speaker 3: smaller and more. Slighter so if he can just like
- 23:36Speaker 3: tap into it and just harness it a little, BIT
- 23:38Speaker 3: i feel like he's got the potential to be AN
- 23:41Speaker 3: nfl player just to be in a.
- 23:42Speaker 5: Pro part That evan brings up is WHY i brought
- 23:45Speaker 5: up the consistency. Factor he's been out there every. Day
- 23:48Speaker 5: we haven't really heard from. HIM i think he's gotten
- 23:52Speaker 5: better as the camps have gone.
- 23:54Speaker 4: On is there haven't been these peaks and valleys that
- 23:56Speaker 4: we saw a little bit over last. YEAR i think
- 24:00Speaker 4: he's generally been on the. Rise now we'll see if
- 24:02Speaker 4: he can continue.
- 24:03Speaker 5: It you, know WE'VE i know that there's probably listeners
- 24:06Speaker 5: like here you, go they're talking about these wide receivers
- 24:09Speaker 5: again that we haven't really ever seen do anything in.
- 24:12Speaker 4: Games you're, right they have. To that's why we're. Here
- 24:15Speaker 4: they have to show.
- 24:16Speaker 5: You they have to show you that they can do
- 24:18Speaker 5: it every, day not just once in a. While BUT
- 24:20Speaker 5: i do think this first week of camp For Javon
- 24:23Speaker 5: baker has been better than last.
- 24:25Speaker 4: Year, yes in terms of his. Consistency, yeah his size
- 24:28Speaker 4: and speed is just.
- 24:28Speaker 3: Different like they don't have guy a guy that has
- 24:31Speaker 3: that exact combination of like six, one six two with
- 24:35Speaker 3: a four or. Five like that's not that's Not Keasehan,
- 24:38Speaker 3: boodie that's Not Kyle. WILLIAMS i, Mean Mac collins is
- 24:41Speaker 3: his own. Thing SO i JUST i won't give.
- 24:44Speaker 1: UP i won't Give we've mentioned that several times in this,
- 24:48Speaker 1: show the comments That Elliott wolf made after the end
- 24:51Speaker 1: of last, season where AND i he was obviously referring
- 24:55Speaker 1: to the wide receivers when he said, this we hope
- 24:58Speaker 1: that they would get more, support and they. Did and
- 25:00Speaker 1: he's referring to the. Coaching that's a significant thing for
- 25:04Speaker 1: A gm to. Say so you wonder how much influence
- 25:09Speaker 1: he has on the decision that's coming. Up you, Know,
- 25:13Speaker 1: no this Guy baker can be a player poke if
- 25:17Speaker 1: he gets he can be you, know like you wonder
- 25:20Speaker 1: because those were his.
- 25:21Speaker 4: Picks you, know this is kind of along those. LINES
- 25:23Speaker 4: i thought it was.
- 25:24Speaker 6: Interesting drake was ON Nfl network yesterday and he was
- 25:28Speaker 6: asked About Pop douglas and the first thing he said was,
- 25:32Speaker 6: like he's lining up in the right, spots and you,
- 25:35Speaker 6: know that to me just really stood out and it
- 25:37Speaker 6: was something that we were critical of me. Too AND
- 25:41Speaker 6: i like a That drake is kind of taking ownership
- 25:44Speaker 6: and leadership and calling guys out a little, bit but
- 25:47Speaker 6: also great great For pop that we knew that that
- 25:49Speaker 6: was something he was going to have to improve on
- 25:51Speaker 6: With josh McDaniels and his system and needing to be
- 25:53Speaker 6: a little bit more. Cerebral SO i think that was
- 25:56Speaker 6: just a cherry on top of a really solid start
- 25:58Speaker 6: for probably.
- 25:59Speaker 1: We always knew was a. Weapon now he can a super.
- 26:03Speaker 3: Weapon, yeah, Yeah, no the cerebral is a good word
- 26:05Speaker 3: For LIKE i remember last, Year drake had him on
- 26:09Speaker 3: like a slant and they just missed. It and if
- 26:11Speaker 3: he had caught it in, stride he was he was.
- 26:13Speaker 3: Gone and they after the, game everybody was Blaming drake
- 26:18Speaker 3: for missing the throw and you know, Whatever And Alex
- 26:21Speaker 3: Van pelt said at the time that Like pop ran
- 26:24Speaker 3: the route at five steps and it was supposed to
- 26:26Speaker 3: be at seven or like something like. That like it
- 26:28Speaker 3: was like a route.
- 26:28Speaker 4: Depth vaguely remember that.
- 26:30Speaker 3: Thing and it's like that's such a minutia. Thing and
- 26:32Speaker 3: at the end of the, day like it's a wide open,
- 26:34Speaker 3: receiver you probably should have put it on him, anyways
- 26:36Speaker 3: like it so everybody's kind of the blame, There but
- 26:39Speaker 3: like if that's the difference Between pop being just a
- 26:43Speaker 3: nice third receiver and then like in a thousand yard,
- 26:46Speaker 3: RECEIVER i don't, know but maybe it, Is like maybe
- 26:48Speaker 3: that is the next step for, him is having it
- 26:51Speaker 3: up here and being able to think the game as
- 26:53Speaker 3: well as the physical.
- 26:54Speaker 1: Attributes, yeah all, right eight Five pats five hundred is
- 26:58Speaker 1: the hotline pot cast At patriots dot. Com is the
- 27:01Speaker 1: way to email us. Again alex will be here. Soon
- 27:05Speaker 1: where she was out.
- 27:06Speaker 4: She was out. Front she she was like shooting a
- 27:08Speaker 4: thing With. Jack they were working on. Something SO i don't,
- 27:10Speaker 4: know maybe she got a little tight.
- 27:12Speaker 1: UP i, okay but she'll be here and then we'll have,
- 27:14Speaker 1: uh possibly a special guest in the second. Half, yeah.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Possible i'm getting a thumbs up from the From alex
- 27:21Speaker 1: in the, booth so very special, guests very very very.
- 27:25Speaker 4: Special who's going to be very excited to be?
- 27:27Speaker 1: Here, yeah, uh the person will be very excited to be.
- 27:31Speaker 6: HERE i could throw another position. Group maybe we did
- 27:33Speaker 6: a solid twenty minutes to our. Receivers But evan AND
- 27:36Speaker 6: i are talking a little about the safety position where
- 27:38Speaker 6: it seems Like duggar And peppers certainly are right back
- 27:41Speaker 6: in the middle of, that but it still seems like
- 27:43Speaker 6: they're trying to figure out the rest of that rotation
- 27:46Speaker 6: and how it's going to go between you, Know Jalen
- 27:48Speaker 6: hawkins And Marcus, apps and you know even the Rookie Craig,
- 27:52Speaker 6: woodson who really haven't seen a lot of him with
- 27:54Speaker 6: the top.
- 27:55Speaker 4: Group but otherwise it.
- 27:56Speaker 6: Feels like that third safety spot and that role is really.
- 27:59Speaker 6: OPEN i Think jalen hawk might be in it right,
- 28:01Speaker 6: now but just a significant role that we've talked about.
- 28:05Speaker 4: A lot that still seems to be up in the.
- 28:07Speaker 6: Air WHEN i feel like after a week in a
- 28:09Speaker 6: day things will settled for me a lot across the.
- 28:12Speaker 6: Roster injuries have complicated the cornerback, position but it somewhat
- 28:16Speaker 6: the offensive line. Position but you, know, OVERALL i think
- 28:19Speaker 6: that's one of the few positions WHERE i still kind
- 28:21Speaker 6: of feel like there are some questions about how it's
- 28:22Speaker 6: all going to shake, out and an admittedly smaller.
- 28:25Speaker 4: Role it's, not you, know starter role.
- 28:26Speaker 3: Necessarily it's an important role, though because it puts everybody
- 28:29Speaker 3: in the right, Spots like if you have to Have
- 28:31Speaker 3: we've seen, it like if you Have duggart Or pepper's
- 28:34Speaker 3: playing twenty five yards off the, ball it's just not
- 28:37Speaker 3: where they're best, utilized playing in the deep part of the.
- 28:40Speaker 3: Field it just makes it a lot better if they
- 28:42Speaker 3: can have somebody Be we always like call Out Deron harmon,
- 28:47Speaker 3: right like just can you just Be Deron, harmon you,
- 28:50Speaker 3: know not asking you to be, like you, know a
- 28:53Speaker 3: ten time all, pro but like just play the role,
- 28:56Speaker 3: well be in the right. Places it's it's not you, know,
- 29:00Speaker 3: uh it's not a it's a small role in terms
- 29:03Speaker 3: of snaps, maybe BUT i think in terms of game,
- 29:06Speaker 3: leverage it's important because it's third, down it's fourth. Quarter
- 29:10Speaker 3: gotta have its. Situations it's, like you, know, okay we're
- 29:13Speaker 3: up three the two minute drills on the opponent has the,
- 29:16Speaker 3: ball they're driving down the, Field like how are we
- 29:18Speaker 3: going to close this? Game how are we going to
- 29:19Speaker 3: win this? Game and those moments are huge and like
- 29:22Speaker 3: how many times Did Ron harmon make a pick at
- 29:25Speaker 3: those exact moments throughout his career where the ball is
- 29:28Speaker 3: just kind of like kind of Depault and those are
- 29:35Speaker 3: those plays like that that helped That chung was in
- 29:38Speaker 3: the box and mccordy was playing robber And harmon was
- 29:42Speaker 3: over the top and they just, knew they knew where
- 29:45Speaker 3: everybody was and this scroup needs to find That they're
- 29:48Speaker 3: they're spinning the wheel a little bit. There they're trying
- 29:50Speaker 3: to find who it's going to be THEY i can
- 29:52Speaker 3: you can see it like every practice is somebody.
- 29:54Speaker 5: Different based on the, SPRING i Thought woodson was really
- 29:57Speaker 5: making a push AND i would agree THAT i have
- 30:00Speaker 5: it's seen the same kind of push since training camp has.
- 30:03Speaker 5: Started today when they went with, dime looks it Was
- 30:06Speaker 5: hawkins with with those, guys AND i do agree there's
- 30:10Speaker 5: a sneaky importance to it BECAUSE i think they had
- 30:14Speaker 5: in the dime it was three, corners three.
- 30:16Speaker 4: SAFETIES i don't think you you.
- 30:18Speaker 5: Know maybe you can make the argument that Of gonzalez is,
- 30:20Speaker 5: there that's you, know because he's not part of it,
- 30:22Speaker 5: Today so maybe you could go with an extra. Corner
- 30:26Speaker 5: but now you're, wondering, like Is Marcus jones can he
- 30:29Speaker 5: can he play back?
- 30:30Speaker 4: There is he big?
- 30:31Speaker 5: ENOUGH i know he's rangy, Enough he's got obviously the
- 30:33Speaker 5: athleticism to play back. There BUT i do, wonder you
- 30:37Speaker 5: know how they feel about. That marcus EPs has flashed
- 30:40Speaker 5: a little bit at. TIMES i think during CAMP i
- 30:44Speaker 5: think there are different, options but someone is going to
- 30:47Speaker 5: need to solidify that.
- 30:48Speaker 4: ROLE i do think it's sneaky.
- 30:49Speaker 5: Important and To evan's point about them spinning the dial
- 30:53Speaker 5: watching some of the position, Drills i've Seen Isaiah bolden
- 30:56Speaker 5: with the safeties almost as often As i've seen him with.
- 30:59Speaker 5: Corners SO i do wonder if they're looking that's another
- 31:01Speaker 5: guy with tremendous. Speed by the, WAY i wonder if
- 31:05Speaker 5: they're just continuing to look for.
- 31:07Speaker 6: Options, Yeah we're getting to the point now in practices
- 31:09Speaker 6: Where i'm starting to really kind of lock in on
- 31:11Speaker 6: the special teams periods just to see how they view
- 31:14Speaker 6: the depth chart for special.
- 31:15Speaker 4: Teams AND i didn't have to. WATCH i Knew mike
- 31:17Speaker 4: was going to have me on.
- 31:18Speaker 3: That you know who's going to be the nice way
- 31:20Speaker 3: to find like the fifty second and fifty third guy
- 31:23Speaker 3: that's going to make the team while he was the
- 31:24Speaker 3: guy that's on four different special teams.
- 31:27Speaker 4: Units who saw Del pettis last year.
- 31:29Speaker 5: Coming it was WHEN i told you guys this morning
- 31:31Speaker 5: About Jaheim bell and the OBSERVATION i made About, BELL
- 31:34Speaker 5: i figured for, sure.
- 31:35Speaker 4: You guys can be all over me for.
- 31:37Speaker 5: That yesterday they did they close practice we kick offs
- 31:40Speaker 5: yesterday and they did one and Then.
- 31:46Speaker 4: Chase on was one of the guys that was in.
- 31:48Speaker 5: There and the next rep they had the same, ten
- 31:51Speaker 5: Only Jehean bell Replaced Chase, on AND i was, like
- 31:56Speaker 5: maybe they have something in mind For. Bell let's get
- 32:01Speaker 5: to the phones and the.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Emails we'll start With emery In. Virginia what's, Up?
- 32:05Speaker 9: Emery good, afternoon. Gentlemen, hey, LISTEN i just wanted to
- 32:13Speaker 9: some comments in regards to the wide receiver. GROUP i
- 32:16Speaker 9: just think the fans needs to, relax you, know during
- 32:22Speaker 9: this Our Super bowl runs and, stuff we never really
- 32:26Speaker 9: had no what you call a super bona five number one,
- 32:30Speaker 9: receiver not Including Randy. Morris we didn't even win The
- 32:33Speaker 9: Super bowl With Randy. Morris we had guys Like Troy
- 32:37Speaker 9: brown giving the patent, Branch, Eldeman Amon, Doola Hogan, mitchell
- 32:43Speaker 9: And Brandon. Lafel NOW i Know. Elleman he turned out
- 32:49Speaker 9: to be a very very good and probably gonna be
- 32:51Speaker 9: in The hall Of fame one. Day but he developed
- 32:54Speaker 9: here and we had a great, quarterback we had very good,
- 32:58Speaker 9: coaching and we had competent guys that went out at
- 33:03Speaker 9: Won Super. Bowl SO i just think we just need
- 33:05Speaker 9: to chill with, this you, know like we got to
- 33:08Speaker 9: have a super dup number, one you, Know, no just
- 33:12Speaker 9: let's get some company guys out there who know how
- 33:15Speaker 9: to play. Football Let brave want his staff coach them,
- 33:18Speaker 9: up and let's go win Another Super.
- 33:20Speaker 1: Bowl, yeah, Okay Jake, SAMMERY i Mean emery Mentioned Tom.
- 33:24Speaker 4: BRADY i agree with all of.
- 33:26Speaker 1: That, yeah you, Know Tom, bradley we have. IT i
- 33:28Speaker 1: think you don't need a superstar With Tom, brady and he's.
- 33:33Speaker 1: Right if you have a good quarterback and competent smart
- 33:38Speaker 1: receivers know the, role do it, well you, can you
- 33:43Speaker 1: can get, by but it helps to have that one
- 33:45Speaker 1: guy that opens it.
- 33:46Speaker 3: UP i just don't know if you can get, by
- 33:48Speaker 3: and we.
- 33:48Speaker 1: Saw what happened once they finally.
- 33:50Speaker 5: DID i would also say from seven to nineteen they
- 33:54Speaker 5: had A hall Of famer as this lead.
- 33:56Speaker 4: Receiver well, yeah, yeah SO i mean it's easy to
- 34:01Speaker 4: say he got by with, less, right he kind of really.
- 34:04Speaker 9: Didn't.
- 34:05Speaker 5: Yeah, early As evan, said early in his, career when
- 34:07Speaker 5: you didn't really have to throw the ball to. Win,
- 34:10Speaker 5: Yeah Troy brown was the number one guy who probably
- 34:13Speaker 5: wasn't A hall Of fame caliber.
- 34:14Speaker 4: Receiver he was pretty, good but he was his.
- 34:16Speaker 5: Number one, guy And Corey dillon ran the ball for
- 34:19Speaker 5: eight thousand yards and that's how they, won and they
- 34:22Speaker 5: had great.
- 34:22Speaker 4: Defense you don't really win that way.
- 34:24Speaker 3: Anymore, YEAH i don't think you need Like Jamar chase level,
- 34:27Speaker 3: Receiver like it doesn't have to be the best receiver in.
- 34:29Speaker 3: Football BUT i JUST i, mean you always look at
- 34:32Speaker 3: last Year's Super bowl champ, like they have two receivers
- 34:35Speaker 3: that might be the best receiver here if they were
- 34:37Speaker 3: on The patriots. Roster SO i think it's it's a
- 34:40Speaker 3: different game than When brady first started. Out and then
- 34:43Speaker 3: you also the Then brady Became, brady and it's, like
- 34:45Speaker 3: well then you Have Tom, brady, right so, like, Yeah
- 34:48Speaker 3: Tom brady can Drive Kembro topkins And Austin colly And
- 34:51Speaker 3: Aaron dobson down the field to the game win a.
- 34:53Speaker 3: Touchdown BUT i would like to hope that we don't
- 34:56Speaker 3: Expect drake to do. That SO i just think it's
- 34:58Speaker 3: tough TO i HEAR i like him in the middle
- 35:01Speaker 3: of whatevery is, SAYING i agree with. THAT i don't
- 35:03Speaker 3: think you have superstar receivers. Everywhere, yeah BUT i agree
- 35:07Speaker 3: with good receiver to two.
- 35:09Speaker 6: Points first of, ALL i Mean Stefan diggs looks like
- 35:12Speaker 6: the best receiver that we've had in these parts since.
- 35:13Speaker 4: When like who is like Prime.
- 35:15Speaker 6: Edleman, yeah so you, KNOW i appreciate the call from,
- 35:18Speaker 6: memory but like you, know we're not quite in the
- 35:20Speaker 6: depths quite as we've been the last couple of.
- 35:22Speaker 1: Years but that's what he's.
- 35:24Speaker 3: Saying, WELL i, know.
- 35:25Speaker 6: And that's you, know but but you, know point, Out
- 35:27Speaker 6: digs looks, Good diggs looks ready to, go and my
- 35:29Speaker 6: success look.
- 35:30Speaker 4: Good my second point Is Drake may's look really.
- 35:32Speaker 6: Good and so If Drake may picks up this offense
- 35:34Speaker 6: and knows what he's, doing which he looks like he,
- 35:36Speaker 6: does and you, know looks like he is ready to
- 35:38Speaker 6: take a jump in his second. Season it matters a
- 35:41Speaker 6: whole lot. Less so you're you're fighting it a both.
- 35:43Speaker 6: Ends your quarterback is going to be better and you've
- 35:45Speaker 6: got a better. Receiver So i'm optimistic about this offense And,
- 35:49Speaker 6: drake Especially drake can take us if he if he
- 35:50Speaker 6: keeps playing like he's been, playing he's GONNA.
- 35:52Speaker 5: I agree with everything and what he, said and he's,
- 35:55Speaker 5: like they don't need, this they don't need, that they
- 35:57Speaker 5: just need a bunch of. COMPETENCE i would agree with.
- 35:59Speaker 5: EVERYTHING i just don't know if they have. That i'm
- 36:03Speaker 5: waiting to see if they have. THAT i Think diggs is.
- 36:05Speaker 5: That i'm waiting to see about all the all the
- 36:07Speaker 5: rest of the. GUYS i don't even know who they're
- 36:08Speaker 5: all going to. Be but, yes you can Get But
- 36:12Speaker 5: Brandon lafel was a very valuable player for. THEM i
- 36:14Speaker 5: don't know if they have A Brandon lafel, right But.
- 36:17Speaker 3: Brandon lafel is he was playing Off, Kronk he's playing Off.
- 36:20Speaker 3: Edelman was the third or fourth thing.
- 36:22Speaker 5: My point being, is you, KNOW i like What Kayshan
- 36:25Speaker 5: bouti has done in a week of.
- 36:26Speaker 4: Camp can he Be Brandon? Lafel? MAYBE i don't know
- 36:31Speaker 4: the other.
- 36:31Speaker 5: Party AND i know What evan's, saying like it was
- 36:33Speaker 5: easier For LaFell because he had so much other stuff around.
- 36:36Speaker 4: Him BUT i don't know. What these these guys are, unproven.
- 36:40Speaker 6: Right and they can never forget that it's not always
- 36:42Speaker 6: just a wide. Receiver so you number one tight, end
- 36:44Speaker 6: that's What gronk. Was he was a number one, Too
- 36:46Speaker 6: so maybe that's something that you know develops a Long.
- 36:48Speaker 1: When you're talking offense and you're talking the, dynasty it's
- 36:52Speaker 1: hard to make comparisons Because Tom brady skewed. Everything he skewed,
- 36:57Speaker 1: everything so you have to start, With, okay you don't
- 37:04Speaker 1: have brain, right but the.
- 37:05Speaker 4: Core is still and this is what we've been looking.
- 37:07Speaker 4: For look for the. Quarterback you, know if you have the,
- 37:08Speaker 4: quarterback you're gonna be in the.
- 37:10Speaker 6: Mix he's gonna help you win some. Games and then you,
- 37:12Speaker 6: know you start to stack around, him and you, know
- 37:15Speaker 6: Then drake. Starts the whole guy's, accountable and then those
- 37:17Speaker 6: guys start to hit that next.
- 37:19Speaker 4: Level that's the.
- 37:19Speaker 6: Hope you, know it's not all gonna happen this, Year
- 37:21Speaker 6: but for, me this second year A, drake it looks
- 37:24Speaker 6: like it's headed in a really positive, direction and that
- 37:26Speaker 6: this kid looks like it get he gets, it and
- 37:29Speaker 6: that's that's that's the best sign of. All i'd rather
- 37:31Speaker 6: have that than, have you, know this amazing wide receiver
- 37:34Speaker 6: here And drake's out there throwing picks every.
- 37:36Speaker 4: Other, throw you, know like The molak neighbors In New.
- 37:38Speaker 4: York is that what's going?
- 37:39Speaker 3: On but, YEAH i would just say, too LIKE i
- 37:42Speaker 3: don't want to downplay What diggs's looks like so far
- 37:45Speaker 3: in these practices, because LIKE i THINK i said this
- 37:49Speaker 3: yesterday on catch twenty, Two, like, dude The patriots might
- 37:51Speaker 3: have the fantasy relevant receiver for the first time in
- 37:55Speaker 3: like half a, Decade LIKE i, like if you're drafting for,
- 37:59Speaker 3: fantasy like dig is a legitimate person to draft in
- 38:02Speaker 3: a fantasy.
- 38:03Speaker 4: Draft.
- 38:03Speaker 3: NOW i don't know if the last TIME i had.
- 38:05Speaker 1: That Nathan connecticut's on the. Line what's, Up?
- 38:07Speaker 5: Nate thank you?
- 38:09Speaker 10: Guys Rem well, yeah, Yeah so FIRST i.
- 38:13Speaker 7: Just want to SAY i apologize for not calling.
- 38:15Speaker 4: In, yeah we were.
- 38:16Speaker 3: TALKING i was thinking about that.
- 38:18Speaker 1: Name, yeah we were all. WORRIED i, Know i'm.
- 38:20Speaker 10: Sorry.
- 38:21Speaker 4: Yeah across, Camp oh last, camp how'd you?
- 38:25Speaker 7: DO i?
- 38:27Speaker 10: THOUGHT i did pretty. Well you know we had a
- 38:30Speaker 10: pl guy was A pl.
- 38:31Speaker 7: Camp he's done take text and gets you sines out
- 38:37Speaker 7: of the Cross. Paul that was really.
- 38:39Speaker 10: Cool but, yeah the main reason.
- 38:41Speaker 7: Why paul did want to talk about The imagine.
- 38:44Speaker 10: Rating SO i know the highest rookie And john though.
- 38:53Speaker 7: Was the ninety five the second highest, uh second highest
- 38:58Speaker 7: graded corners the.
- 39:00Speaker 10: Game what are your thoughts on double.
- 39:02Speaker 7: Overalls kind of like where they do you Think GONZO'S
- 39:06Speaker 7: i Think gonzo's makes physically, fine.
- 39:10Speaker 9: BUT i know that.
- 39:13Speaker 7: Maybe like a dish a lot of guy he's.
- 39:17Speaker 3: Good, YEAH i did see That gonzo's second highest rated
- 39:21Speaker 3: corner in the. GAME i think Behind Patrick, serftan which
- 39:24Speaker 3: is thanks pretty. CRAZY i mean he was a second
- 39:26Speaker 3: Team All pro so it's he's right and the running
- 39:29Speaker 3: there AND i saw the. BOXES i appreciate mad and
- 39:32Speaker 3: know when it comes to, corners not putting any respect
- 39:35Speaker 3: on zone corners like do that on your own, Time, like,
- 39:37Speaker 3: Oh i'm just going to play the deep third on
- 39:39Speaker 3: my side of the, Field like, Cool, yeah our guy
- 39:43Speaker 3: he shadows. People, okay he, goes he takes the number,
- 39:46Speaker 3: one he, travels he, goes he goes in the slot
- 39:49Speaker 3: zero goes in the slot with. Him that's a lot
- 39:51Speaker 3: harder than you're playing your zone drop over. There so
- 39:55Speaker 3: good On madden for.
- 39:56Speaker 4: That me And never were walking Behind gonzo a few days,
- 39:59Speaker 4: ago just Just i'm.
- 40:00Speaker 6: Like i've seen him, before but like he's a, Specimen
- 40:04Speaker 6: like he's just the perfect kind of cornerback. BILL i,
- 40:07Speaker 6: MEAN i think he's listed at like six to, one
- 40:09Speaker 6: but he seems bigger than that to. Me he's still
- 40:11Speaker 6: a young, kid SO i think he's maybe he's filling
- 40:13Speaker 6: out more and that's what kind.
- 40:14Speaker 4: Of put on some. Bulk BUT i mean it's from
- 40:17Speaker 4: last season to this. SEASON i don't have anything to confirm.
- 40:21Speaker 3: That BUT i don't have anything to add about The madden.
- 40:23Speaker 4: Ratings do you think you're very upset about? HIM i
- 40:26Speaker 4: couldn't have any less to add about The Madden.
- 40:29Speaker 5: Rams it'll never cease to amaze me people's fascination with uniform,
- 40:34Speaker 5: numbers uniforms in, general And madden.
- 40:37Speaker 3: Ratings so do you want the do you want the
- 40:39Speaker 3: top the top? Five here on, Five i'll stop at.
- 40:41Speaker 3: Five Patrick surtan number, one ninety, Seven gonzo number, Two
- 40:47Speaker 3: Sauce gardner number, Three trent McDuffie number, Four Jalen ramsey number,
- 40:52Speaker 3: Five Derek stingley number.
- 40:54Speaker 1: Six duffy is he the?
- 40:56Speaker 4: One is he one of the ones that got away
- 40:59Speaker 4: that the cost this? Year one of the? Yes the
- 41:02Speaker 4: original was the trade.
- 41:05Speaker 3: DOWN i remember at the time of the, Draft trent
- 41:07Speaker 3: McDuffie went with The patriots original selection and there was
- 41:11Speaker 3: like a mix up with the call, line and like
- 41:13Speaker 3: at first it got reported that The patriots Drafted trent,
- 41:16Speaker 3: McDuffie but it was actually The chiefs that Drafted trent
- 41:19Speaker 3: McDuffie with The. Patriots tough.
- 41:22Speaker 1: One brad's In. Ohio, Hey, brad.
- 41:30Speaker 10: All, right it's talking TO.
- 41:34Speaker 9: I want TO i agree with the caller about.
- 41:37Speaker 10: The receivers, too.
- 41:39Speaker 9: Like you, did and he's a spot on with, that.
- 41:43Speaker 10: And SO i just wanted to give him a shout.
- 41:46Speaker 1: Out, okay and THEN.
- 41:50Speaker 11: I think that we should PROBABLY i think what's going
- 41:54Speaker 11: to happen with the receiver ring that we're gonna keep
- 41:59Speaker 11: more receieve then we technically would simply because if we
- 42:05Speaker 11: have the.
- 42:05Speaker 12: Lack of.
- 42:08Speaker 10: And we lost, it which is not you, know that's
- 42:13Speaker 10: really hurt our. OFFS i agree With evan.
- 42:16Speaker 1: And all of.
- 42:16Speaker 10: You we need to full, back not all of us With.
- 42:20Speaker 10: Daniels so what do you guys think about?
- 42:23Speaker 11: That Seth moore whom steps based on the fact that
- 42:27Speaker 11: we don't have depth in other areas you know?
- 42:33Speaker 3: Too, YEAH i feel like we were talking about that bread,
- 42:37Speaker 3: practice like if you if it comes you. Know another
- 42:39Speaker 3: guy that was noticeably with one of the groups today
- 42:42Speaker 3: the top group Was Land. Larrison they gave him maybe
- 42:46Speaker 3: a little bit more reps, today and, like would you
- 42:48Speaker 3: rather Keep Land larrison who's flashed a little bit and
- 42:51Speaker 3: shown some potential over one of these third tight ends
- 42:54Speaker 3: who hasn't really done the same thing just because it's
- 42:57Speaker 3: a tight end versus running.
- 42:59Speaker 4: Back, YEAH i would rather keep the better.
- 43:02Speaker 5: Player and to answer the, question whatever amount of receivers
- 43:05Speaker 5: they're going to, KEEP i don't think is going to.
- 43:07Speaker 5: VARY i, MEAN i don't know if they're going to keep, six, seven,
- 43:09Speaker 5: FOUR i don't know what they're going to keep for.
- 43:11Speaker 5: Receivers BUT i think it's a dangerous game to get. Into,
- 43:16Speaker 5: well you only have two tight, ends so let's keep eight,
- 43:20Speaker 5: receivers and you've got to find the best players that
- 43:23Speaker 5: you have. Available Land, larison to me today Took Antonio
- 43:26Speaker 5: gibson spot who wasn't out. There if they think he's
- 43:31Speaker 5: one of the best, Players i'm all for Keeping Lane.
- 43:35Speaker 5: Larison if they Think Jalen polk is better Than Lane
- 43:37Speaker 5: larison and you want to keep a seventh receiver or
- 43:40Speaker 5: eft And chishm, whoever THEN i would keep Beftin. CHISLM
- 43:44Speaker 5: i think that's what needs to be especially with young.
- 43:46Speaker 5: Guys it's Like larys And. Chism to, me that's a
- 43:49Speaker 5: direct comparison to young. Guys you got to decide which
- 43:52Speaker 5: guy you want to develop the, most that you have
- 43:55Speaker 5: the most faith in being able to.
- 43:57Speaker 1: Develop so of all the, positions if you had to, say,
- 44:01Speaker 1: okay and you can only pick, one this is the
- 44:04Speaker 1: position where we're going to keep an extra, player then
- 44:08Speaker 1: we normally do what position would you do right?
- 44:10Speaker 6: Now, Off, Yeah i'm just going to SAY i think there,
- 44:15Speaker 6: too just to just to make sure if not cornerback
- 44:18Speaker 6: plus you.
- 44:18Speaker 3: Get like the extra spot on game day. Too if
- 44:21Speaker 3: you carry the extra active player on game, day you
- 44:23Speaker 3: get forty seven instead of.
- 44:25Speaker 1: Six SO i just think it's unlikely that all the
- 44:29Speaker 1: receivers that we have right now are just so good
- 44:33Speaker 1: that we have to keep an extra. ONE I i you,
- 44:38Speaker 1: know like so like you keep an extra one just
- 44:41Speaker 1: to have an extra. One, now if you do get
- 44:45Speaker 1: hit with, injuries you could probably just pick up somebody
- 44:48Speaker 1: off on.
- 44:49Speaker 4: One of those.
- 44:49Speaker 5: Guys it's probably going to be. AVAILABLE i, mean that's
- 44:52Speaker 5: on the Practice let's let's lookd at it from a
- 44:55Speaker 5: really objective spot. Here by most of these, metrics The
- 44:59Speaker 5: patriots wide receiver group is considered to be bottom. Five
- 45:04Speaker 5: so do you really think there's going to be a
- 45:05Speaker 5: lot of clamoring to pick up the guys that couldn't
- 45:08Speaker 5: make you a bottom five receiver. Group you're probably going
- 45:13Speaker 5: to be, able As evan just, said to put these
- 45:14Speaker 5: guys on the practice squad and then have them at
- 45:17Speaker 5: your disposal if you need them.
- 45:18Speaker 4: Or they get the, flu right and then and they
- 45:21Speaker 4: get the, flu then you can't use it.
- 45:22Speaker 6: Later the front office and the coaches know a lot
- 45:25Speaker 6: more about these players than we. Do we only see
- 45:27Speaker 6: them on the. Field they see them behind the, scenes
- 45:29Speaker 6: and it's it's questions like do you feel Like Javon
- 45:32Speaker 6: baker is going to suddenly hit that potential and we
- 45:36Speaker 6: just can't give up on him. Yet he's got too
- 45:37Speaker 6: much potential and it's such a valuable.
- 45:39Speaker 4: Position you, Know we've we.
- 45:41Speaker 6: Invested maybe the scouting staff is looking At Jalen polk,
- 45:43Speaker 6: saying we still really love this.
- 45:45Speaker 4: Kid we drafted, him and you, know it goes back
- 45:47Speaker 4: out one if they feel like, that, right you know
- 45:50Speaker 4: WHAT i?
- 45:51Speaker 3: Mean, YEAH i JUST i GUESS i look at, it
- 45:53Speaker 3: like do we JUST i feel like there's like a
- 45:56Speaker 3: group of four receivers that are all kind of the
- 45:58Speaker 3: same in the same, boat and it just it's not
- 46:02Speaker 3: so much THAT i think that they're all so talented
- 46:04Speaker 3: that we have to keep them. ALL i just don't
- 46:06Speaker 3: know which one is the right one to keep. Me
- 46:08Speaker 3: so it's just like if you just keep as many
- 46:10Speaker 3: as you, can then maybe like you just throw those
- 46:13Speaker 3: blind darts and eventually one of them hits like sort
- 46:16Speaker 3: of thing like they like to douce his, point like
- 46:18Speaker 3: they know which one to, keep you like to, think
- 46:21Speaker 3: but they make mistakes all the time when it comes
- 46:23Speaker 3: to that kind of.
- 46:24Speaker 5: Stuff so, YEAH i Like deuce's you know analysis there,
- 46:28Speaker 5: though like if you if they feel like these guys
- 46:31Speaker 5: STILL i still don't know enough. Yet i'm not ready
- 46:33Speaker 5: to pull the plug by all, means keep an extra
- 46:36Speaker 5: one do it Was brad, RIGHT i Think brad wanted
- 46:38Speaker 5: to keep you, know was thinking about maybe they'll keep
- 46:40Speaker 5: an extra. One by all means don't don't discard a
- 46:44Speaker 5: guy that you still believe. In it's because you think
- 46:48Speaker 5: the roster needs to, be you, know constructed a certain.
- 46:51Speaker 5: Way and plus we all know this happens a million.
- 46:54Speaker 5: Times what you see On september seventh is not what
- 46:57Speaker 5: you're going to end up seeing for the balance.
- 46:58Speaker 6: Of the, season especially a position like wide receiver where
- 47:02Speaker 6: you're searching and sometimes that does. Happen offensive, line we
- 47:05Speaker 6: all talked about keeping an extra, guy And i'll use
- 47:07Speaker 6: this transition to talk about Guy Truman, jones Who evan
- 47:10Speaker 6: AND i both clocked.
- 47:10Speaker 4: Yesterday not a lot of, reps but.
- 47:12Speaker 6: Every now and then he's popping in there really thin
- 47:15Speaker 6: overall in the edge. Depth and you know he's a
- 47:18Speaker 6: guy that was around last.
- 47:19Speaker 4: Year but you, know do you do you give up
- 47:21Speaker 4: on edge rushers early AS i. Need it was on
- 47:24Speaker 4: the it was on the HIGH.
- 47:27Speaker 7: I didn't.
- 47:27Speaker 6: Have it wasn't anything, big was JUST i, know it
- 47:31Speaker 6: was like a couple of reps at the, start and
- 47:32Speaker 6: then Inferony jennings comes in and it's, like, well are
- 47:35Speaker 6: they just, saying, hey cup in, there get a little
- 47:36Speaker 6: you get your feet? Wet or is it this kid's
- 47:38Speaker 6: Pushing let's give them a couple. Reps you don't, know don't,
- 47:41Speaker 6: know so just to see him out.
- 47:43Speaker 4: There these are the things that clock you clock.
- 47:45Speaker 3: With this is like a glass half, full glass half
- 47:47Speaker 3: empty thing For deuce because he was given his, Boy
- 47:50Speaker 3: Trey jacobs the business and, practice especially in one on.
- 47:54Speaker 3: Ones Uh Tremaine jones got got him twice and one
- 47:57Speaker 3: with like a really good spin move put him in
- 48:00Speaker 3: the spin sec smart. Too Harvard he did go To,
- 48:02Speaker 3: Harvard so, YEAH i Mean edge Dep we talked about that.
- 48:06Speaker 3: Too you, Know Chase on looks like he's a, player
- 48:08Speaker 3: looks like they might have hit on. Him LANDRY i
- 48:10Speaker 3: think is going to be. Solid Keon white's going to
- 48:12Speaker 3: be out. There But swinson ponder Maybe Truman jones is
- 48:17Speaker 3: in that conversation, too like who's the fourth? Guy you,
- 48:19Speaker 3: know who's going to be the extra guy they KEEP.
- 48:21Speaker 6: I got a way too early question like this just
- 48:23Speaker 6: popped in THEM i had With Chase, on IS i
- 48:24Speaker 6: know The patriots are sitting on you, know still have
- 48:26Speaker 6: a bunch of cap space at, least, like do you
- 48:29Speaker 6: do you look at extending somebody at some point they
- 48:31Speaker 6: have that. Money do you identify a player Like Chase
- 48:33Speaker 6: on and feel, like, man it's really clicking for him
- 48:36Speaker 6: at a high value position that we need to ensure long.
- 48:39Speaker 4: Term he's still a young.
- 48:40Speaker 6: Guy to someone like him who's only here right now
- 48:43Speaker 6: on a one year, deal do, they you, know maybe
- 48:45Speaker 6: make a move something like?
- 48:46Speaker 1: That Ellen wisconsin writes In, So i'm not going to go.
- 48:49Speaker 1: Crazy it's week two of training, camp but it really
- 48:52Speaker 1: feels like this is the first time in five years
- 48:54Speaker 1: that it looks like they've had AN nfl. Offense don't
- 48:57Speaker 1: know how good it will, be but at LEAST nfl
- 49:00Speaker 1: well caliber seems like a huge. Jump what are your.
- 49:02Speaker 3: Thoughts i'm assuming what you mean since twenty twenty one
- 49:05Speaker 3: that five, YEARS i don't know time five?
- 49:08Speaker 4: Four, yeah it, does it. Does i'm.
- 49:11Speaker 5: OPTIMISTIC i haven't seen that, yet, Though i'm. Optimistic, yeah
- 49:16Speaker 5: AND i was not optimistic at this time last.
- 49:18Speaker 4: Year, no neither WAS.
- 49:20Speaker 6: I i, mean and then you were really not optimistic
- 49:22Speaker 6: when The eagles came in. Here so get a lot
- 49:24Speaker 6: of information next week with The commanders or The patriots
- 49:27Speaker 6: able to make some, plays take some place LIKE i
- 49:30Speaker 6: think that last Year eagles joint practice sums it up
- 49:32Speaker 6: perfectly for me because it felt like The eagles just overwhelmed.
- 49:35Speaker 6: THEM i Think patriots made some plays on the defensive
- 49:38Speaker 6: side of the, ball but offensively they couldn't even run their.
- 49:41Speaker 6: Offense so let's get into That wednesday practice next. Week,
- 49:44Speaker 6: See i'm Sure redskins The commanders will make some, Plays i'm,
- 49:48Speaker 6: sure but can The patriots continue to punch back bounce.
- 49:50Speaker 6: Back that's one Thing i've really liked About Drake summers
- 49:53Speaker 6: that if he's had a day where he was a little,
- 49:55Speaker 6: off like a couple of days, ago didn't really seem
- 49:57Speaker 6: to affect, him came, back continues to be effective and
- 50:00Speaker 6: continues to not throw, interceptions, which let's face, it that
- 50:03Speaker 6: was the buzzword for all of us all off season About.
- 50:06Speaker 6: Drake so that's to, me it's just a, tangible great
- 50:08Speaker 6: sign of a guy who needed to cut down on the.
- 50:10Speaker 4: Turnovers that that's what he's doing in. Camp we'll see
- 50:13Speaker 4: if it, translates but that's all you can ask of
- 50:14Speaker 4: him at this.
- 50:15Speaker 1: Point let's See tyler writes in From South. CAROLINA i
- 50:19Speaker 1: just wanted to hear your thoughts in the linebacker. Room
- 50:21Speaker 1: seems like we've solid depth of the defensive, line but
- 50:24Speaker 1: how do we feel about depth at? Linebacker you guys
- 50:27Speaker 1: have mentioned a splane goes down that could really be
- 50:30Speaker 1: a major hit to the. Team has there been any
- 50:32Speaker 1: other players to step on training camp so? Far Jack
- 50:35Speaker 1: Gibbons Christian ellis also would love to hear your thoughts
- 50:38Speaker 1: in the about the cornerback. Room who do you guys
- 50:41Speaker 1: think will make the fifty three man Roster in that?
- 50:43Speaker 3: Room Jack gibbons Put La larrison into Next wednesday yesterday
- 50:47Speaker 3: and that was fun to.
- 50:48Speaker 1: Watch, yeah that was.
- 50:49Speaker 3: Cool it was the first TIME i feel Like i've
- 50:50Speaker 3: Noticed Jack. Gibbons and that doesn't mean that he hasn't done,
- 50:54Speaker 3: anything BUT i just the first real flash of, like,
- 50:57Speaker 3: okay hey there he. Is So Christian ellis And Robert
- 51:01Speaker 3: splaine right now divide not? Practicing are your top two
- 51:05Speaker 3: linebackers pretty consistently every? Practice SO i think those two
- 51:09Speaker 3: guys are. There Jack gibbons seems like a nice like
- 51:12Speaker 3: third Linebacker corps special teamer type that will be in
- 51:16Speaker 3: the mix as, well and then we have the experience
- 51:19Speaker 3: experiment Of marte mop who at linebacker going on. Too
- 51:22Speaker 3: so that's been like your top four in these practices so.
- 51:26Speaker 4: FAR i kind of wish you had a guy Like
- 51:27Speaker 4: gibbons last.
- 51:28Speaker 6: YEAR i, mean it's gonna be a huge drop off
- 51:29Speaker 6: As spolene went, down BUT i feel like he at
- 51:31Speaker 6: least has the experience in the. SMARTS i real questions
- 51:35Speaker 6: About Christian ellison. Exactly you, know last year felt like
- 51:38Speaker 6: he was thrust into playing a full time role on.
- 51:41Speaker 6: Defense he's primarily been a special. Teamer he's been a
- 51:44Speaker 6: key piece right next To Robert spolne for most of this.
- 51:47Speaker 6: CAMP i, mean is he ready to take a? Jump
- 51:49Speaker 6: is he ready to really bloss him in this? OFFENSE
- 51:51Speaker 6: i know he could, Run he's he's got, speed you,
- 51:53Speaker 6: know but last year was it was. CHOPPY i don't
- 51:55Speaker 6: think anybody would have come out of the end like
- 51:57Speaker 6: after the last game last year and been, like that's
- 51:59Speaker 6: a guy we need to hold on to one.
- 52:01Speaker 4: Defense and so that to me a little bit.
- 52:03Speaker 6: Interesting here was It Alex Park because So i'm interested
- 52:08Speaker 6: to see how that all fits together and If ellis
- 52:11Speaker 6: is able to really Compliment. Splaine but it all starts With.
- 52:14Speaker 6: Splain he is now your guy in the, middle making the,
- 52:17Speaker 6: calls setting the, tone and hopefully making the.
- 52:19Speaker 4: Plays and he's been really active all.
- 52:21Speaker 1: Camp Pete, seattle, right Sim we all agree That bradberry
- 52:25Speaker 1: is a below average, center especially when it comes to pass.
- 52:27Speaker 1: Protection that, SAID pff ranks him as an above average run.
- 52:32Speaker 1: Blocker in twenty four with The, Vikings evan And barth
- 52:35Speaker 1: spoke yesterday On cast twenty two about how good a
- 52:38Speaker 1: run game can help pass. Protection my question is, this
- 52:41Speaker 1: given that The vikings in twenty four had a stationary
- 52:44Speaker 1: quarterback In, bradford and we're a very pass heavy.
- 52:47Speaker 4: Offense, yeah who's not a stationary Quarter?
- 52:50Speaker 1: YEAH i, Continue, YEAH i was thinking At bradford and
- 52:53Speaker 1: that the twenty Five pats will have a run heavy
- 52:55Speaker 1: offense with a mobile. Quarterback is it fair to think
- 52:58Speaker 1: that the twenty Five patriot it might be a much
- 53:00Speaker 1: better fit For bradbury's skill set at. CENTER i think.
- 53:05Speaker 3: That's a long.
- 53:07Speaker 10: Way.
- 53:09Speaker 13: Yeah but.
- 53:11Speaker 3: WHAT i like about BRAD i like his. Athleticism that
- 53:14Speaker 3: was the thing that got him. Drafted it was very
- 53:16Speaker 3: highly athletic, center and because of, that it translates to
- 53:20Speaker 3: probably the run game a little bit better because he
- 53:22Speaker 3: can get out and move and make blocks on the.
- 53:25Speaker 3: Move but WHAT i like about Brad berry is the,
- 53:28Speaker 3: experience you. KNOW i think it's a guy that you can.
- 53:30Speaker 3: Trust he's a, steady experienced, veteran AND i think that
- 53:34Speaker 3: that's going to go a long way if you have
- 53:35Speaker 3: two rookies starting and you, know a lot of new
- 53:38Speaker 3: faces on that offensive line to begin with a second year,
- 53:41Speaker 3: Quarterback like it helps to have a center that's year
- 53:44Speaker 3: seven in the league and has seen everything and knows
- 53:47Speaker 3: what he's looking. At SO i don't really have very,
- 53:49Speaker 3: many like big concerns About. BRADBERRY i Think bradbury is
- 53:53Speaker 3: going to be fine for. Them it's also just it's a,
- 53:56Speaker 3: center and that's a piece of it. Too BUT i
- 53:59Speaker 3: think he's gonna be.
- 54:00Speaker 1: Okay deshaun's In. Virginia Hate DeShawn.
- 54:05Speaker 14: Good Oppeno yeah Hate. Hey that's WHY i thought to
- 54:09Speaker 14: a few. Things like the first thing is LIKE i
- 54:12Speaker 14: feel like as long as they picked the right receiver
- 54:14Speaker 14: that's been playing in practice soot fall and they're competent,
- 54:18Speaker 14: enough AND i think with made, playing biking ability will
- 54:21Speaker 14: elevate the guys. Alone you, KNOW i played off to
- 54:24Speaker 14: be much. Better uh you, know, uh such with Doctor
- 54:27Speaker 14: jennis calling, it you know we'd go along with Jet
- 54:30Speaker 14: mad's playing, ability playmaking. Ability excuse. Me then when it
- 54:33Speaker 14: also comes to the call him about The manton thing or,
- 54:36Speaker 14: WHATEVER i think That. Gonzo. Uh Eventually frona be like
- 54:40Speaker 14: the very best corner because because the corner he's he
- 54:44Speaker 14: has to package to benefit.
- 54:46Speaker 10: HIM i like the other corners has telling me saying
- 54:50Speaker 10: a little bits and SAYING i want to touch on.
- 54:53Speaker 14: A seams before things like, That, uh the the right by.
- 54:58Speaker 14: Selected uh REMEMBER i don't want to and they talk
- 55:03Speaker 14: about will be the problem right?
- 55:05Speaker 1: Now, okay thanks To, sean.
- 55:11Speaker 4: Can you get all that? Virtually?
- 55:14Speaker 6: Not, well you got the little camel, part AND i
- 55:16Speaker 6: mean it's probably you know worth talking that that he
- 55:18Speaker 6: got beat a couple of times to the, Inside, uh
- 55:21Speaker 6: both in one on one drills as well as in team.
- 55:23Speaker 6: Drills and you, know to me it was obvious because
- 55:25Speaker 6: everyone talked about. It and how often do you you
- 55:27Speaker 6: watch it an offensive line and everybody sees exactly what
- 55:31Speaker 6: happened and what the problem. Was and to me like,
- 55:34Speaker 6: that he just has to improve on that. STUFF i
- 55:36Speaker 6: don't you, KNOW i don't know how you connect it
- 55:38Speaker 6: to if he had an extra, inch he wouldn't get
- 55:40Speaker 6: beat to the.
- 55:41Speaker 4: Inside and we get into like always overset and all this.
- 55:43Speaker 1: Stuff it's all about speed.
- 55:45Speaker 4: There it. Is it's on. Tape it put it.
- 55:46Speaker 6: Up you can't get beat like, that and THAT i
- 55:48Speaker 6: mean that is that's anes that gets your. Beat play, right,
- 55:51Speaker 6: like that's an s that gets you beat that he
- 55:53Speaker 6: that can't. Happen so if it, continues then you have a.
- 55:55Speaker 6: Problem but you, KNOW i don't want to go get too.
- 55:57Speaker 6: Crazy but it was so obvious to everybody watching how
- 56:01Speaker 6: cleanly he got beat to the. Inside so it's got
- 56:03Speaker 6: to be. Fixed AND i JUST i refuse to believe
- 56:06Speaker 6: that that's. Something they're, Like, nope that's just how it.
- 56:07Speaker 6: Is he Can't that's that's always how it's gonna. Be
- 56:09Speaker 6: he's never gonna be able to got to be.
- 56:10Speaker 1: Fixed you, know you can't have. That but he's adjusting
- 56:15Speaker 1: to the speed right. Now it's it's all about. Speed
- 56:18Speaker 1: it's not like he doesn't have the ability to be
- 56:21Speaker 1: a good. Tackle he's getting beat because he's just not
- 56:25Speaker 1: getting to a spot quick.
- 56:26Speaker 3: Enough, well he's getting but he's it's the same way
- 56:28Speaker 3: he's getting beat in. College like it depends on who you, ask,
- 56:33Speaker 3: right if you, ask like you, KNOW i took a
- 56:35Speaker 3: talk To Duke mannyweather who's worked with him all off.
- 56:37Speaker 3: Season duke will tell you it's it's, footwork, right it's,
- 56:40Speaker 3: footwork and like just body positioning and like where he
- 56:43Speaker 3: is opening his hips and and where his feet are
- 56:45Speaker 3: and things like. That The mays airs With Will campbell
- 56:48Speaker 3: will tell you it's arm. Length and the big thing
- 56:51Speaker 3: with the arm length is is that he has when
- 56:54Speaker 3: speed rushers are coming off the edge to, him he
- 56:56Speaker 3: needs to set aggressively out to them because he can't
- 56:59Speaker 3: reach to get, them so like he has to get
- 57:01Speaker 3: out there to get his hands on. Him and when
- 57:04Speaker 3: he does, that he's over.
- 57:05Speaker 1: Compensated but looking when you see and before we go any,
- 57:11Speaker 1: further he's not getting beat on every, play but when
- 57:13Speaker 1: he does get, beat you really think one inch more
- 57:16Speaker 1: of an arm is going to make a. DIFFERENCE i
- 57:19Speaker 1: don't really.
- 57:19Speaker 7: KNOW i.
- 57:22Speaker 5: CAN i just offer something you're not it's not you're
- 57:23Speaker 5: not looking at it the right way at. All evan
- 57:25Speaker 5: just explained. IT i think perfectly if you are concerned
- 57:29Speaker 5: about your ability to, Reach you're. Cheating that's why he's
- 57:34Speaker 5: getting beat to the, inside say the. NAYSAYERS i don't
- 57:36Speaker 5: want to say what we're saying Because i'm Not Dante.
- 57:39Speaker 5: SCARNAKIA i do not break down the film at an
- 57:42Speaker 5: expert level to. Understand but what people are, considering and
- 57:48Speaker 5: this is what happened to him in, college is that
- 57:51Speaker 5: he knew that he didn't have the, reach so we
- 57:54Speaker 5: often would over commit with his set and get beat
- 57:57Speaker 5: to the.
- 57:57Speaker 4: Inside that is About. Armlanfeng, YEAH i.
- 58:01Speaker 1: DON'T i. Disagree, Okay, yeah that's.
- 58:03Speaker 4: Fine i'm not telling you that it. IS i don't
- 58:04Speaker 4: Think i'm not qualified to tell you if it.
- 58:07Speaker 1: Is, YEAH i don't think he's worried about his arm
- 58:09Speaker 1: like other people might. Be, okay BUT i don't.
- 58:11Speaker 3: Think he said he is worried about. ARMLENGTH i just
- 58:13Speaker 3: think that that's the physical limitation that he's working. Against
- 58:17Speaker 3: that's my.
- 58:18Speaker 1: Point but, honestly, again when you look at, it do
- 58:21Speaker 1: you think one inch would make a?
- 58:22Speaker 4: Difference, YES i don't. Know, well can he can he
- 58:27Speaker 4: stop over setting like? That can that be the?
- 58:29Speaker 1: Coach?
- 58:29Speaker 3: Okay BUT i don't don't know if he, overseets then
- 58:32Speaker 3: the guy to the, outside he's not gonna be able
- 58:34Speaker 3: to get his hands on the. Guy so then the
- 58:35Speaker 3: guy is just going to go around his.
- 58:37Speaker 6: Corner but the way you're describing it is like there's
- 58:39Speaker 6: no answer and this is just how it's always going to.
- 58:40Speaker 4: Be we don't know. THAT i Think evan AND i
- 58:43Speaker 4: are very quick to say we don't know.
- 58:44Speaker 14: That it's not.
- 58:45Speaker 4: FIXABLE i think it's.
- 58:46Speaker 6: Fixable but he's not going to grow, armlengths so he
- 58:48Speaker 6: either has to stop over setting OR i think it's
- 58:51Speaker 6: going to be an expressway through the.
- 58:56Speaker 3: Want him to play, guard you. Know And i'm not
- 58:59Speaker 3: saying that that's. Me i'm saying naysayers BECAUSE i don't
- 59:01Speaker 3: agree with those people all the time about. It BUT
- 59:04Speaker 3: i think With Will, Campbell i'm With deuce LIKE i
- 59:07Speaker 3: would tell him he's got to be a little bit more,
- 59:09Speaker 3: patient like and the main thing is is like trust your.
- 59:12Speaker 3: Feet he has great, feet he's a really good. Athlete
- 59:15Speaker 3: he's really. Smooth so just take a, second like sit
- 59:19Speaker 3: back for just a half a second longer and react
- 59:21Speaker 3: to what the rusher is where he's going. Right, instead
- 59:25Speaker 3: instead he's trying to because he's got awesome grip, straight
- 59:28Speaker 3: so he's just trying to get his hands on the
- 59:30Speaker 3: guy and win the rep, immediately like just end it
- 59:33Speaker 3: and shut it. Down and because of, that he's getting
- 59:36Speaker 3: he's getting. Overextended and when he gets over, extended they
- 59:39Speaker 3: can't they go back.
- 59:40Speaker 4: Inside so it means it sounds like it and this
- 59:43Speaker 4: is like a, habit like this is just something that they.
- 59:46Speaker 9: Have it's.
- 59:46Speaker 4: Not it's not a new habit that developed in the, internet,
- 59:49Speaker 4: Right and that's.
- 59:50Speaker 1: Why they could get away with it in.
- 59:52Speaker 5: College but that's WHY i think it's reckless to suggest
- 59:54Speaker 5: that it has nothing to do with, it that it's
- 59:56Speaker 5: not a mental thing with.
- 59:57Speaker 4: Him he's been doing it since he was AT.
- 59:59Speaker 5: Ls that was one of the red flags on, him
- 1:00:03Speaker 5: and that's why some people felt he was a guard
- 1:00:06Speaker 5: because they felt like he had to over, commit which
- 1:00:08Speaker 5: allowed him to be susceptible to that inside.
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: Move.
- 1:00:11Speaker 4: Yeah, YEAH i don't.
- 1:00:12Speaker 5: Know if he doesn't over, commit if he can handle
- 1:00:14Speaker 5: the outside speed, rush we'll find.
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: Out it's funny like because the first time that it's
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: really came up was yesterday Against Bradon, swinson who was
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: his teammate AT. Lsu so you, Know Brandon swinson's used
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: that same move Against Will campbell for the last three.
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: Years and so he got up and he got a
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: one on one against Against Will, campbell and what does he.
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: Do first thing he does goes to the inside. Move
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: so it's it's one of those vulnerabilities for. Him it's
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: something that that he's worked on all off season and
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: continues to work on. Now BUT i, also, like just
- 1:00:44Speaker 3: to be fair to, him his run blocking is.
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: Excellent it was really, good like he's choosed it.
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: In the run game and like dynamic like second level, blocks,
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: hooking front side, blocks down blox for caving into line
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: scrimmage Like Millan williams he got he folded them like a,
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: chair you, Know like he's doing those types of things
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: in the run. Game but the passpro needs work like.
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: That it's just an area of his game that needs.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: Work, yep all, Right we're gonna take a. Break he needs.
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- 1:03:43Speaker 14: Another day at the.
- 1:03:44Speaker 4: Office what's going on?
- 1:03:46Speaker 12: Here?
- 1:03:46Speaker 17: Di all, right borders on the left, here stay. Clear
- 1:03:55Speaker 17: how are you feeling about your performance and?
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: Progression?
- 1:03:58Speaker 8: YEAH i think just just keep. GOING i think just keep,
- 1:04:00Speaker 8: working keep building. Chemistry throws THAT i WISH i had,
- 1:04:03Speaker 8: back missed some, touchdowns you, know two practically go in
- 1:04:05Speaker 8: the red. Zone there's just that's what you're out here,
- 1:04:07Speaker 8: for you. KNOW i think you hurt myself on trying
- 1:04:09Speaker 8: to make those throws and make the easy, ones but
- 1:04:12Speaker 8: that that's what it's out, here timing and the guys
- 1:04:14Speaker 8: up front and battling their butts. Off it's a little
- 1:04:16Speaker 8: better against the. Defense were able to run the football
- 1:04:18Speaker 8: on a little bit and they're not just playing the.
- 1:04:19Speaker 8: Past SO i think we're coming, together you, know jeling,
- 1:04:21Speaker 8: nicely AND i, think you, know just keep. On you've
- 1:04:24Speaker 8: got a good look with our. Defense they have some
- 1:04:26Speaker 8: good players over, there so we're getting some great work
- 1:04:27Speaker 8: and we just gotta keep building into joint practices and
- 1:04:29Speaker 8: keep it.
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: Going you're not supposed to you go, ahead do you
- 1:04:34Speaker 4: feeling work for?
- 1:04:35Speaker 5: Corogression for yourself right.
- 1:04:36Speaker 4: NOW i mean that's what you.
- 1:04:37Speaker 8: HOPE i, think you, Know i'm trying to come from
- 1:04:39Speaker 8: this offense kind of take the next steps as as we,
- 1:04:41Speaker 8: go AND i, think you, know the real test will
- 1:04:43Speaker 8: be when the games comes and when we getting these joint.
- 1:04:45Speaker 8: Practices So i'm looking. Forward you, Know i'm proud of
- 1:04:48Speaker 8: work we've done AND i feel. GOOD i feel a good.
- 1:04:50Speaker 8: Spot but you, KNOW i think it's still a lot
- 1:04:52Speaker 8: of work.
- 1:04:52Speaker 4: Left you, now baseball you're not supposed to talk.
- 1:04:55Speaker 18: About, yeah the same thing applying guys going through six
- 1:05:01Speaker 18: practices of training.
- 1:05:02Speaker 4: Camp and as a torn.
- 1:05:03Speaker 8: Pick you, KNOW i think it's one of those things
- 1:05:06Speaker 8: Where i'm trying to take care of the football and
- 1:05:08Speaker 8: maybe they could have had a few here and. THERE
- 1:05:10Speaker 8: i think Pet make should have had one of the,
- 1:05:11Speaker 8: first you know. PRACTICE i joke am in him about,
- 1:05:14Speaker 8: it but, YEAH i think that's A i think that's
- 1:05:15Speaker 8: a goal of ursc of the. Football AND i, think you,
- 1:05:18Speaker 8: know not trying to LIKE i, said, yeah throw off
- 1:05:21Speaker 8: the perfect game or no, Hitter BUT i think that's
- 1:05:23Speaker 8: that's part of not scared to throw, them still not gun.
- 1:05:25Speaker 18: Shy so that's what's interesting to watch is you're still
- 1:05:29Speaker 18: throwing it into two tight areas checked.
- 1:05:31Speaker 14: Out after checked.
- 1:05:32Speaker 18: Out do you feel as if you're an equal opportunity
- 1:05:36Speaker 18: quarterback at this point because you're still getting to learn
- 1:05:38Speaker 18: a lot of these players.
- 1:05:38Speaker 8: TOO i think it's you, know it's easy to throw
- 1:05:41Speaker 8: the check down or you, know it's not, realistic you,
- 1:05:44Speaker 8: know moving them moving the football and getting big kind
- 1:05:46Speaker 8: of chunk, plays which is the plays you want in
- 1:05:48Speaker 8: games where you're not throwing the ball down the field
- 1:05:49Speaker 8: and throwing it tight. Windows AND i THINK i did
- 1:05:52Speaker 8: a little bit that in the, spring trying throw some
- 1:05:53Speaker 8: tighter windows and, uh you, KNOW i think just you,
- 1:05:56Speaker 8: know through a little more. Interceptions but that's what you're
- 1:05:58Speaker 8: out here, for you. Know you try to you know feel,
- 1:05:59Speaker 8: it kind of, feel, hey can this work or can
- 1:06:01Speaker 8: this work against these guys this. Level SO i try
- 1:06:04Speaker 8: to use it as that and kind of once as
- 1:06:05Speaker 8: they're closer to the, football time start playing some some
- 1:06:07Speaker 8: real hey take care of the football.
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: Mindset Josh jobs was.
- 1:06:11Speaker 7: Saying at the end of the day That josh McDaniels
- 1:06:15Speaker 7: is trying to take advantage of the quarterbacks all of your.
- 1:06:19Speaker 5: Athleticism, yeah do you see a change in philosophy in.
- 1:06:23Speaker 4: Terms of how much they may or may not want
- 1:06:26Speaker 4: you to run the.
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: Football, YEAH i MEAN.
- 1:06:29Speaker 8: I think it's it's an even balance of you, know
- 1:06:31Speaker 8: gain extra. Hat you, know were having the quarterback be
- 1:06:33Speaker 8: able to run the, football he's get extra. Number you,
- 1:06:35Speaker 8: know you're making eleven on eleven instead of ten on.
- 1:06:37Speaker 8: Eleven SO i think it's always a you, know it's
- 1:06:39Speaker 8: a useful AND i think at the end of the,
- 1:06:42Speaker 8: Day i'll make some plays kind of all schedule, anyway
- 1:06:45Speaker 8: but mixing in the quarterback run game is Something i'm open.
- 1:06:48Speaker 8: To AND i think it's always tough when a defense
- 1:06:51Speaker 8: has to cover that and keep that in. MIND i
- 1:06:56Speaker 8: think whatever they whatever they put me up, TO i
- 1:06:58Speaker 8: think it's you, know they do a good. Job and,
- 1:07:01Speaker 8: coaches you, know want Some Super, bowls you, know coaching the.
- 1:07:03Speaker 8: Offense So i'm kind of prayer for Whatever.
- 1:07:06Speaker 19: Mike mike had, Mentioned, Minister i'm talking about the quarter
- 1:07:09Speaker 19: Cons LIKE i get you to these young players are,
- 1:07:12Speaker 19: fearless but there has to be you have to learn
- 1:07:14Speaker 19: how to protect. Yourself is That are they hammering that
- 1:07:16Speaker 19: point home to, you, like, hey we need you for Seventeen.
- 1:07:19Speaker 14: YEAH i think that's.
- 1:07:20Speaker 8: IMPORTANT i THINK I i faced that in. COLLEGE i
- 1:07:22Speaker 8: was my first. YEAR i was really kind of running
- 1:07:24Speaker 8: around and you, know doing some STUFF i probably shouldn't
- 1:07:28Speaker 8: have them out there with with pads. On SO i
- 1:07:29Speaker 8: think just taking care of my body and being, smart
- 1:07:31Speaker 8: but also you, know knowing when it's third, down when
- 1:07:33Speaker 8: you know near the end, zone Like i'm six five
- 1:07:36Speaker 8: and two hundred and thirty, pounds go go get.
- 1:07:38Speaker 20: Something so the offensive, line how are you seeing that
- 1:07:41Speaker 20: come together after these you know first, take.
- 1:07:44Speaker 4: Those guys are.
- 1:07:45Speaker 8: BATTLING i think they're battling using different cades, is using different,
- 1:07:48Speaker 8: pros were changing mic, points like they're really getting a
- 1:07:51Speaker 8: good grasp of. It i'm proud of those guys up.
- 1:07:53Speaker 8: Front we got next you, know next man up. Mentality
- 1:07:55Speaker 8: some guys are getting banged up and some guys are
- 1:07:57Speaker 8: fighting through. Injuries so just par our. Position they don't
- 1:07:59Speaker 8: get enough love. Ever AND i think you, know the
- 1:08:01Speaker 8: coaching staff and what the off of the lineman, doing you,
- 1:08:04Speaker 8: KNOW i think they will be doing throughout the whole.
- 1:08:05Speaker 8: Season has being going to be Impressive, josh you know working.
- 1:08:09Speaker 3: With, him but where do you feel like he's been
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: able to help develop you the most especially going through
- 1:08:13Speaker 3: these first couple of days.
- 1:08:14Speaker 4: Of a full pandem.
- 1:08:14Speaker 8: Print, yeah just, uh just playing the. Position you, know
- 1:08:17Speaker 8: it's it's tough to coach a, position let alone play.
- 1:08:19Speaker 8: IT i think it's, uh you, know the big thing
- 1:08:20Speaker 8: is having somebody in that room who you know wants
- 1:08:23Speaker 8: to challenge, you wants to coach me. Hard and you're
- 1:08:25Speaker 8: talking McDaniels Or dobs. Coach, Yeah i'll talk about coach.
- 1:08:30Speaker 8: Anyway but, yeah that has been great in the room as.
- 1:08:32Speaker 8: Well but, Coach, YEAH i think he was done at
- 1:08:34Speaker 8: a high. Level he's been a head coach who've seen
- 1:08:36Speaker 8: a lot of different, stuff who's seen the kind of
- 1:08:38Speaker 8: evolution of the game of football in the past twenty
- 1:08:40Speaker 8: years coaching. It SO i think he's got a lot of.
- 1:08:42Speaker 8: Experience AND i Think i'm just trying to ask some
- 1:08:44Speaker 8: questions and pick his brain and try, to you, know
- 1:08:47Speaker 8: soak up EVERYTHING i.
- 1:08:47Speaker 21: Can the, spring you talked a lot about added expectations
- 1:08:51Speaker 21: and you, know being a, leader do you feel like
- 1:08:53Speaker 21: the are who is still play in the right direction
- 1:08:55Speaker 21: here at this stage to.
- 1:08:55Speaker 8: Kill you, know it's hard to just put expectations on,
- 1:08:59Speaker 8: it BUT i, think you, KNOW i like we're at
- 1:09:00Speaker 8: think we're practicing. Hard we're coming out here in these
- 1:09:02Speaker 8: walkthroughs and focusing and, details AND i think there's gonna
- 1:09:06Speaker 8: be times, where you, know there's there's DAYS i here
- 1:09:08Speaker 8: we didn't feel like we had goose practices we. Wanted
- 1:09:11Speaker 8: but right NOW i feel like we've got a, good you,
- 1:09:13Speaker 8: know head of steam. GOING i think we're gonna have
- 1:09:15Speaker 8: a scrimmage, tomorrow which will be fun splitting up the,
- 1:09:17Speaker 8: Team SO i, think, uh looking forward to, that AND i,
- 1:09:19Speaker 8: think you, KNOW i think it's really you find out
- 1:09:21Speaker 8: you're gonna have a chance every, week you, know to
- 1:09:24Speaker 8: go out there and prove. Yourself and, uh a lot
- 1:09:26Speaker 8: of these games come down to one. Score so just
- 1:09:27Speaker 8: what the details and the little things are about how
- 1:09:30Speaker 8: much of people.
- 1:09:30Speaker 21: Working with Specifically stefan seems like already you guys have
- 1:09:35Speaker 21: a nice, wore.
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: Especially down in The Red.
- 1:09:37Speaker 21: Zille what does he do specifically well that you like
- 1:09:40Speaker 21: to see as far as getting open its, scoring.
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: It's just a.
- 1:09:43Speaker 4: Mindset it's attacking the.
- 1:09:44Speaker 8: Football you, know a guy like, that you know his,
- 1:09:47Speaker 8: stature who's you, know got a lot of touchdowns in
- 1:09:49Speaker 8: this league and made a lot of big. Plays he
- 1:09:50Speaker 8: wants to go get the, football and he tells me
- 1:09:52Speaker 8: all the, time just you, know the balls in the
- 1:09:53Speaker 8: air is gonna be. Mine SO i think that's it's comforting,
- 1:09:55Speaker 8: here not from those, guys AND i think that's kind
- 1:09:57Speaker 8: of starting to become something in the receiver. Room that's the,
- 1:09:58Speaker 8: mindset you, know the balls in, there go get. It
- 1:10:01Speaker 8: SO i think, it's, uh it's comfortable hearing that it's
- 1:10:03Speaker 8: comfortable a guy who's also gone out there improved.
- 1:10:05Speaker 3: It really makes a comment like, that do you already
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: have the confidence in him that when you throw the
- 1:10:09Speaker 3: ball up, there like he's gonna be able to catch? It,
- 1:10:11Speaker 3: like how are you going to build that connection that
- 1:10:12Speaker 3: you're gonna son that he's got?
- 1:10:14Speaker 8: IT i mean it comes with me making a good
- 1:10:16Speaker 8: throw as. Well so that's, uh just trying to do
- 1:10:19Speaker 8: my part and let those, guys you, know they get,
- 1:10:21Speaker 8: paid you know a lot of. Money you, know you know,
- 1:10:23Speaker 8: Too so let those guys make their plays and just
- 1:10:25Speaker 8: kind of kind of comes off the you, know feeding
- 1:10:27Speaker 8: off each other of letting them do their part and you,
- 1:10:30Speaker 8: know kind of doing mind.
- 1:10:33Speaker 10: Stuff is if he doesn't tell you what you want
- 1:10:35Speaker 10: here and tells.
- 1:10:35Speaker 7: You what you need to.
- 1:10:36Speaker 14: Hear, yeah have you had that kind of.
- 1:10:37Speaker 8: EXPERIENCE i think that's. HUGE i think that's kind of
- 1:10:40Speaker 8: what we're trying to build around. HERE i think it starts,
- 1:10:42Speaker 8: with you, know the head coach of telling you what
- 1:10:44Speaker 8: you need to hear instead of what you want to.
- 1:10:45Speaker 8: HEAR i think that's that's that starts A it's a
- 1:10:49Speaker 8: good start to where we want to. Go AND i,
- 1:10:51Speaker 8: think you, know there's times where we need to love
- 1:10:52Speaker 8: somebody up a little, extra BUT i think it comes
- 1:10:54Speaker 8: down from the head coach and it's kind of you,
- 1:10:56Speaker 8: know top down.
- 1:11:00Speaker 5: Like.
- 1:11:00Speaker 4: STUFF a couple of issues with center quarterback in this. Change,
- 1:11:04Speaker 4: yeah what do you think is causing? Those and do
- 1:11:06Speaker 4: you think you guys are fixing it at this?
- 1:11:07Speaker 7: Point?
- 1:11:08Speaker 8: YEAH i MEAN i think you, know sometimes it gets
- 1:11:11Speaker 8: it's fall campus ninety five degrees out. Here you have
- 1:11:14Speaker 8: at the same, time you can't put the gall on the,
- 1:11:15Speaker 8: ground and some of it's little pre snap, uh you,
- 1:11:18Speaker 8: know be on the same. Page AND i think other than,
- 1:11:20Speaker 8: that it's my part to you, know get on there
- 1:11:22Speaker 8: and get the. Ball So i'm not it's not a big.
- 1:11:25Speaker 8: Issue and you, KNOW i think it's something that that
- 1:11:28Speaker 8: these guys have figured out they got a tough. Job
- 1:11:30Speaker 8: they got a not talking, football but they got you,
- 1:11:33Speaker 8: know a big three hundred and fifty pounds guy and
- 1:11:35Speaker 8: they're moving right and they're snapping it with the same
- 1:11:36Speaker 8: hand and then coming up to block. Them it's tough
- 1:11:39Speaker 8: part of them and it's uh just feeling stuff like.
- 1:11:42Speaker 8: That that's it's pretty cool seeing how that stuff works
- 1:11:44Speaker 8: out and how much that stuff.
- 1:11:45Speaker 3: Changes SO u pre snap stuff is going just you,
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: know setting the protections and all that stuff at the.
- 1:11:52Speaker 8: Time, yeah you will.
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: HELP i did in.
- 1:11:53Speaker 8: College you'll kind of send the. Line me and my
- 1:11:56Speaker 8: center we kind of sent the line where we wanted
- 1:11:58Speaker 8: and and changed it and uh will bit. That and
- 1:12:00Speaker 8: there's a little bit of that last year of getting
- 1:12:02Speaker 8: the protection. Right BUT i, think uh it's. Starting it's
- 1:12:04Speaker 8: it's started to come. ALONG i think it's it's nice
- 1:12:06Speaker 8: knowing you, know it's my job to send those guys
- 1:12:08Speaker 8: the right spot and you'll get them the same page
- 1:12:11Speaker 8: and get all those guys you, know all loving. Us
- 1:12:13Speaker 8: it starts with, me you, know on you, know uh
- 1:12:15Speaker 8: kind of route the huddle of getting the guys in
- 1:12:17Speaker 8: the right spot and getting the play. Started and it's
- 1:12:19Speaker 8: starting with a good. Huddle so it's Like i'm a
- 1:12:20Speaker 8: good spot AND i think those guys are are doing
- 1:12:23Speaker 8: a good job of listening to. Me and if it's
- 1:12:25Speaker 8: a look that we need to change, it they've done
- 1:12:27Speaker 8: a great.
- 1:12:27Speaker 4: Job so thank, you. Guys and now great moments in.
- 1:12:35Speaker 4: History she's my lines are way off this. Week, YEAH
- 1:12:40Speaker 4: i JUST i. DON'T i don't believe.
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: In do you get your lines From jimmy The?
- 1:12:43Speaker 4: Barbers it's week too the spread AND i JUST i
- 1:12:46Speaker 4: just go to draft.
- 1:12:47Speaker 3: Cans ESPN's had the same lines As.
- 1:12:49Speaker 4: Paul so we go to.
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: Draft no.
- 1:12:54Speaker 3: Listening.
- 1:12:54Speaker 5: DRAFT i mean they are are presenting sponsor for the
- 1:12:57Speaker 5: post game. Show SO i think that we can draft,
- 1:13:00Speaker 5: OUT i mean show a little of every. Week you,
- 1:13:02Speaker 5: MOCKING i can't go to you go to?
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: Draft why don't you go to?
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: DRAFT i.
- 1:13:07Speaker 4: Can't i'm not allowed.
- 1:13:07Speaker 6: To FRED i signed a, contractably it's not allowed to use.
- 1:13:11Speaker 4: It you can't even look at, It, paul they don't even.
- 1:13:13Speaker 4: GO i look at it every. Week you can see
- 1:13:16Speaker 4: Every thursday, MORNING i.
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: Come grandfather.
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: Has different, rules like this is not?
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- 1:14:21Speaker 1: there you. Go claire is. Here she's visiting The, states
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: particularly training. Camp you've been here for the last two,
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: days so first Welcome and is this the first time
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: you've been to? Camp, Yes so tell us from your,
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: perspective The Claire. Perspective how was? Camp talking to the, ye.
- 1:14:45Speaker 7: It was.
- 1:14:45Speaker 22: Great yesterday was. Practice there was a lot going. ON
- 1:14:49Speaker 22: i think the one thing is so much going on
- 1:14:52Speaker 22: though and not watching the ghost.
- 1:14:55Speaker 20: Practice you kind of get in the atmosphere of The patriots.
- 1:14:59Speaker 20: Fans you've got the media as well if you want
- 1:15:01Speaker 20: to come and, say.
- 1:15:01Speaker 3: Oh do some of the media that you.
- 1:15:02Speaker 22: See so there's just so. Much and it was yesterday as,
- 1:15:06Speaker 22: well it was a bit more hard to.
- 1:15:08Speaker 3: Concentrate it was.
- 1:15:10Speaker 6: Cooler, Sorry, yeah, no you got kind of the spectrum
- 1:15:13Speaker 6: Of patriots. Camp you got a super, hot padded practice
- 1:15:16Speaker 6: and then today you got a cold walk.
- 1:15:17Speaker 4: THROUGH i don't. KNOW i don't know if there's anything
- 1:15:19Speaker 4: in between. That that's the two.
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: Extremes so from what you've heard about camp and seen and,
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: video was there any were you surprised by anything the
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: layout or how it, looked or was there anything different
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: than what you. Imagined i'll be, HONEST i.
- 1:15:34Speaker 22: Didn't really picture.
- 1:15:35Speaker 20: ANYTHING i kind of knew where the practice field was
- 1:15:37Speaker 20: from walking past when we came To jellett four, five
- 1:15:40Speaker 20: six years, ago SO i knew.
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: It was this is.
- 1:15:43Speaker 22: Separate but it's, yeah it's just. It deuce is.
- 1:15:47Speaker 20: Right it is amazing to come as a. Fan if
- 1:15:49Speaker 20: if you're going to do, anything if you can do
- 1:15:52Speaker 20: anything like, that you. Should it's great that it's. Free
- 1:15:54Speaker 20: obviously there's always but there's also perks as, well if
- 1:15:58Speaker 20: you like see the ticket holders and stuff like, that
- 1:15:59Speaker 20: which is which is really. Cool but, yeah you get
- 1:16:03Speaker 20: sort of semi FaceTime with some of the. Players you
- 1:16:06Speaker 20: get them to sign. THINGS i got to Ask rabel a. Question, so,
- 1:16:11Speaker 20: Yeah rabel might remember me now BECAUSE i called him
- 1:16:14Speaker 20: Mister rabel coach.
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: Sir so he like any interaction with any tight.
- 1:16:25Speaker 4: That you much preferred him as a tight end and a.
- 1:16:27Speaker 4: LINEBACKER i didn't have.
- 1:16:29Speaker 20: CHANCE i did ask him who on the roster would
- 1:16:31Speaker 20: make the best tight end out of the linebackers at the,
- 1:16:34Speaker 20: moment and he kind of, SAID i don't want to
- 1:16:36Speaker 20: play favorites at the, moment so he.
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: DIDN'T i pronounced. IT i emphasized the instead of tight,
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: ends they said. Tightens any interaction.
- 1:16:47Speaker 7: With a.
- 1:16:49Speaker 22: No, comment, okay all, right she's interacting with a couple right.
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: Now, Okay so besides coming to, practice what have you
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: done while you've been? Here have you visited anything in the.
- 1:16:59Speaker 20: AREA i really haven't Had champ it turned up like
- 1:17:02Speaker 20: for one. Reason yeah, Today, yeah complete labor not, yet
- 1:17:08Speaker 20: but it's on the.
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: List, yeah that's one of my favorite. Place any restaurants not, Yet,
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: NO i haven't been here long.
- 1:17:14Speaker 4: Enough have you been eating? Food i've had some food two.
- 1:17:16Speaker 4: DAYS i, know.
- 1:17:18Speaker 3: Practice is two.
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: HOURS i mean you.
- 1:17:21Speaker 20: Know there was breakfast at the hotel on where are
- 1:17:24Speaker 20: We thursday to day, yesterday and then we went to
- 1:17:26Speaker 20: practice and then we had food in the hospitality BECAUSE
- 1:17:28Speaker 20: i had SOME vop.
- 1:17:29Speaker 22: Passes for some big shout out To, andy thanks for THE.
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: Vip it was.
- 1:17:34Speaker 22: Awesome it was, awesome amazing.
- 1:17:36Speaker 3: Yesterday so good.
- 1:17:37Speaker 20: Yesterday so, yeah we are there and then kind of
- 1:17:40Speaker 20: crashed because of jet lag and it was so.
- 1:17:42Speaker 22: Hot, yesterday so, yes it wasn't. It, yeah, okay, yeah you're.
- 1:17:46Speaker 4: Crazy he LOVES i love it when it's like sixty
- 1:17:53Speaker 4: eight in the summer with a twenty hour. Winter, same
- 1:17:56Speaker 4: you love it when it's one hundred and. Five it was.
- 1:18:00Speaker 4: Awesome the last three that was heat.
- 1:18:02Speaker 20: Stroke, yeah, yeah exactly. Perfect i'm a delicate pale flower
- 1:18:08Speaker 20: to cope with. It, yesterday SO i kind of crashed out.
- 1:18:10Speaker 20: Yesterday today was just.
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: Well, today we've got more sun yesterday than you're. Doing, yeah.
- 1:18:16Speaker 4: Everybody stepped on that.
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: One all. Right so let's talk some, football because you
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: know the clear perspective you talk.
- 1:18:25Speaker 22: Football, yeah and ice cream sometimes as.
- 1:18:28Speaker 8: Well so tell us what.
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: You're thinking about the wide receivers because we had a
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: lengthy conversation to start the show about how they're going
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: to handle the amount of receivers that they, have who,
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: stays who? Goes will they keep an extra? Receiver what
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: do you think about the current state of the wide
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: receivers with The?
- 1:18:46Speaker 20: Patriots to be, FAIR i agree with What paul said
- 1:18:49Speaker 20: with the whole it's you're looking at, receivers not just wide.
- 1:18:52Speaker 20: Receivers so it really needs to be what's best for the.
- 1:18:55Speaker 20: Offense because of the offense he WAS i hate to
- 1:18:58Speaker 20: say so bad last, season but, okay because the offense
- 1:19:02Speaker 20: wasn't great last. Season it's it's really needs to be
- 1:19:05Speaker 20: about who the best players are and what the best fit,
- 1:19:08Speaker 20: is regardless of what the letters, are so to, speak did.
- 1:19:11Speaker 6: Any of those guys stand out, yes straighter and practice
- 1:19:13Speaker 6: to you or did you find? Yourself what do when
- 1:19:15Speaker 6: you find your gravitating towards because you're, right, like there's
- 1:19:17Speaker 6: so much to.
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: Watch hell of course.
- 1:19:21Speaker 4: Non tight.
- 1:19:22Speaker 3: End you were Just, HENRY i, mean is, Great it's
- 1:19:28Speaker 3: going to be. Good, yes it's gonna be somebody else.
- 1:19:32Speaker 20: That's, Fair Oh, Bell, yeah more BECAUSE i didn't necessarily
- 1:19:36Speaker 20: see him as, much but more because he came over
- 1:19:38Speaker 20: was really nice to. Me WHEN i told him THAT
- 1:19:40Speaker 20: i was all the way From. England he thought it was,
- 1:19:41Speaker 20: brilliant and he signed my football and My titans rule, sign.
- 1:19:53Speaker 22: My football and my Sign you're.
- 1:19:55Speaker 4: Gonna go back. Loaded you got you got all the
- 1:19:57Speaker 4: all the. Stuff but that's WHAT i.
- 1:20:00Speaker 6: Like, LIKE i, mean because we all sometimes you watch practice,
- 1:20:02Speaker 6: together it's sometimes we, don't and then we congregate and
- 1:20:04Speaker 6: we compare, notes AND i, MEAN i think that's WHAT
- 1:20:06Speaker 6: i like about it is you, know sometimes we'll see
- 1:20:08Speaker 6: something that the other guy doesn't see or you, know so,
- 1:20:12Speaker 6: yeah you just kind of have fun and that's, like all,
- 1:20:13Speaker 6: right Well i'm gonna watch WHAT i.
- 1:20:14Speaker 4: Want but that was, it though Tight. Ends you didn't
- 1:20:16Speaker 4: like No Kyle wyne catches or. Anything Just hunter And
- 1:20:18Speaker 4: henry was a Little Austin hober too.
- 1:20:20Speaker 6: Well and then they signed like two Tight ends last.
- 1:20:22Speaker 6: Night so did you think that was because of your?
- 1:20:23Speaker 4: Arrival so?
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: Clear how do you have a clear perspective if all
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: you're focused on is Tight?
- 1:20:29Speaker 20: Ends, well to be, FAIR i did actually watch the
- 1:20:31Speaker 20: rest and there was you, know there was some good.
- 1:20:33Speaker 20: Places BUT i saw ft and chish and.
- 1:20:35Speaker 22: Runs around a. Lot saw his.
- 1:20:38Speaker 20: NUMBER i mean he's quite, small well from a distance,
- 1:20:40Speaker 20: anyway it was quite relatively and he was, yeah well,
- 1:20:43Speaker 20: yeah relatively, speaking everybody's huge Because i'm only, like, yes,
- 1:20:46Speaker 20: so but, yeah saw him running around a. Lot, now
- 1:20:50Speaker 20: whether that was just the context of WHAT i was
- 1:20:52Speaker 20: watching at the time and the whole grand scheme of,
- 1:20:54Speaker 20: things he wasn't as, much but, yeah saw he's jersey flashing.
- 1:20:58Speaker 22: Around so that was that was. Interesting what did you.
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: Think Of Drake may in? Person he's.
- 1:21:04Speaker 22: Cool, YEAH i didn't get to see him much when
- 1:21:07Speaker 22: you watched.
- 1:21:07Speaker 20: Him, yeah he was oh, yeah oh, yeah definitely has
- 1:21:10Speaker 20: that presence AND i was excited as soon as he was,
- 1:21:14Speaker 20: drafted to be honest with, You so it's it's.
- 1:21:17Speaker 3: Just all all.
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: Right so you know we're going to get into the.
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: Show if you have something to, say chime right. In
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: if you disagree with SOMETHING i want to.
- 1:21:27Speaker 5: Hear ESPECIALLY i WAS i was going to suggest if
- 1:21:31Speaker 5: you could to get into an argument with, me that
- 1:21:34Speaker 5: would be part of the. Show.
- 1:21:35Speaker 3: Yeah we talked To chism after practice today and Uh
- 1:21:40Speaker 3: Dan roach of course because It's. Dan roach Asked chism if, he,
- 1:21:44Speaker 3: uh you, know the smile is just permanently On chism's,
- 1:21:47Speaker 3: face to which he, said, yes it is Because i'm
- 1:21:50Speaker 3: playing in THE. Nfl AND i thought that was kind of.
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: Cool you, know, rookie this FIRST nfl training camp and,
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: uh you, know obviously he's compete for a roster spot
- 1:22:01Speaker 3: and he knows. That but at the end of the,
- 1:22:03Speaker 3: day like it is pretty freaking cool like that he
- 1:22:06Speaker 3: gets to be in THEE i.
- 1:22:08Speaker 4: Think that's a refreshing perspective in.
- 1:22:10Speaker 3: All, yeah.
- 1:22:12Speaker 1: You mentioned after, Practice Drake may had a press conference
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: which we just showed. Here what did you think about
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: what he had to say today because you were, There.
- 1:22:21Speaker 4: YES i.
- 1:22:21Speaker 3: WAS i thought that it was. Interesting WHAT i look
- 1:22:24Speaker 3: about his perspective is that he always says that he
- 1:22:28Speaker 3: kind of gives the iverson like we're talking about practice
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: and like his real litmus tester the, games the joint.
- 1:22:34Speaker 3: Practices he mentioned the next couple of, weeks you, know
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: he said that he likes to think that they're headed
- 1:22:39Speaker 3: in the right, direction but until they get into games
- 1:22:43Speaker 3: like scenarios where they're joint, practices preseason, whatever you really
- 1:22:47Speaker 3: don't know one hundred if you're going in the right
- 1:22:50Speaker 3: direction until you hit that. Part SO i thought that
- 1:22:53Speaker 3: was like, good sort of you, know we ride the
- 1:22:55Speaker 3: roller coaster of good, day bad, day good, day bad,
- 1:22:57Speaker 3: day and to, him it's kind of just, like, well
- 1:23:00Speaker 3: we're hoping we're in the right, direction like we feel
- 1:23:02Speaker 3: good about where we, are but we'll. See and then
- 1:23:05Speaker 3: he was asked a couple of questions about running and
- 1:23:09Speaker 3: like how they're managing that and how they're scheming, that and,
- 1:23:13Speaker 3: he you, know said that he agreed with sort of
- 1:23:16Speaker 3: the premise that it's on him to keep himself healthy
- 1:23:19Speaker 3: and to keep himself in. Games but he also said
- 1:23:22Speaker 3: he's sixty, five two hundred and thirty, pounds and when
- 1:23:24Speaker 3: he's by the goal, line if he sees an opening
- 1:23:26Speaker 3: and it's third down and he's ready to run it.
- 1:23:30Speaker 5: In the only one that gets a skied by, That,
- 1:23:33Speaker 5: yes you. Are i'm not suggesting we never run. Him
- 1:23:36Speaker 5: i'm not doing that part of. It BUT i don't
- 1:23:38Speaker 5: like when he talks about how big he is and
- 1:23:40Speaker 5: when he gets the other goal line he's looking to
- 1:23:42Speaker 5: plow guys.
- 1:23:43Speaker 3: OVER i don't know if he necessarily meant plow guys.
- 1:23:46Speaker 3: OVER i think he just, meant if it opens up
- 1:23:49Speaker 3: and the opportunity presents, itself he ain't. Afraid, well if
- 1:23:52Speaker 3: it opens, up.
- 1:23:53Speaker 5: You don't need to be two hundred and thirty five,
- 1:23:54Speaker 5: pounds you know What i'm, saying run in which he
- 1:23:57Speaker 5: DID i think once last.
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: Year, yes it's in the, preseason, okay but, YEAH I
- 1:24:02Speaker 3: i like those. Answers paul. Doesn't that's.
- 1:24:05Speaker 4: OKAY i just want to keep them. Healthy is that
- 1:24:07Speaker 4: asking too?
- 1:24:08Speaker 3: MUCH i want to win football? GAMES i do. Too
- 1:24:10Speaker 3: he has to risk it for the biscuit a little.
- 1:24:12Speaker 4: Bit then when they get to the point where.
- 1:24:17Speaker 5: They're playing in really important games and it's make or
- 1:24:20Speaker 5: break by all, means lower the shoulder and do what
- 1:24:23Speaker 5: you need to do to get the. Win but you,
- 1:24:25Speaker 5: know dancing down the sideline in the first quarter of
- 1:24:29Speaker 5: a game against The chargers when you're like two and
- 1:24:31Speaker 5: twelve is not one of those.
- 1:24:32Speaker 3: Times to, me fair, enough that's. FAIR i don't think he.
- 1:24:35Speaker 3: Was he was talking, about, like you, know we're down
- 1:24:39Speaker 3: inside the. Red, yeah fourth and.
- 1:24:42Speaker 4: Goal gotta have it some game by all, means you,
- 1:24:45Speaker 4: know third and goal in the second. Quarter it's just
- 1:24:49Speaker 4: NOT i got to have it play to me LIKE i.
- 1:24:50Speaker 4: DON'T i want to make. SURE i want to make
- 1:24:52Speaker 4: sure we preserve, him even Though I'm i'm A Joshua allen,
- 1:24:55Speaker 4: fan AND i still just when he does some Of
- 1:24:58Speaker 4: you're like you're, Crazy like don't blower your. SHOULDER i
- 1:25:02Speaker 4: think he's.
- 1:25:03Speaker 5: Crazy but this whole season would end if one of
- 1:25:06Speaker 5: those hits goes the wrong.
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: Way if five five past five hundred is the. Hotline
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: let's go To jared In. California what's, Up, Jared, jared what's?
- 1:25:15Speaker 3: Up?
- 1:25:16Speaker 4: Guys he went to Join Hey.
- 1:25:19Speaker 2: Jared LAST i went to the first week of training.
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: Camp incredible. EXPERIENCE i loved. It it really looked like
- 1:25:26Speaker 2: the new coaching staff had of graph and everything was
- 1:25:30Speaker 2: running pretty. Efficient my card question, is how would you
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: contrast this training tamp with the new regime compared to old?
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: Regimes And i'm taking off the.
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: Air, okay, Thanks. JARED i mean old regime meaning last.
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: YEAR i mean it's it's it's very. SIMILAR i mean
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: in terms of how it's. Organized it's the. Same you,
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: know you have you have your sessions and you break
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: it up and you go on to, team you go
- 1:25:56Speaker 1: to seven on seven eleven. Eleven you, know all that's the,
- 1:25:58Speaker 1: same just, say the competitive LEVEL i think is a
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: little bit. BETTER i THINK i THINK i can see more, competition.
- 1:26:11Speaker 1: Certainly And, evan you mentioned this this. Morning you were
- 1:26:14Speaker 1: on one Of paul's shows this, morning and you had
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: an excellent hit. Today by the, way you mentioned you mentioned.
- 1:26:21Speaker 1: It you mentioned it today that this, year you, know one,
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: day the offense is, better one day the defense is.
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: Better last, year offense was rarely winning the. Day you,
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: know it's a little bit more even this year in
- 1:26:38Speaker 1: terms of who's winning even within a certain. PRACTICE i
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: think that that's probably a better.
- 1:26:43Speaker 4: Thing that has nothing to do with the structure Of.
- 1:26:47Speaker 5: No, no, no it.
- 1:26:48Speaker 1: Doesn't it.
- 1:26:48Speaker 4: Doesn't BUT i have a Couple.
- 1:26:52Speaker 6: Paul AND i always joked and it became almost a
- 1:26:54Speaker 6: joke with how much time they spent in the red
- 1:26:55Speaker 6: zone With Bill, belichick AND i, mean it was, like you,
- 1:26:58Speaker 6: KNOW i don't remember last year if it was the
- 1:27:00Speaker 6: BUT i specially remember With bill And. Mack it was
- 1:27:02Speaker 6: like every day you were in the red zone every,
- 1:27:04Speaker 6: day and they did periods over the last few days
- 1:27:06Speaker 6: in the red. Zone but it's obvious to me the
- 1:27:10Speaker 6: progression of how they're stacking this all. Together you, know
- 1:27:12Speaker 6: it's all, right first we're going to be high red,
- 1:27:14Speaker 6: zone that we're gonna be with a low red zone
- 1:27:15Speaker 6: now today we're going to be in the middle of the.
- 1:27:17Speaker 6: Field now we're going to add in third. Downs it
- 1:27:19Speaker 6: just it's easier to decipher exactly how they're installing everything to,
- 1:27:22Speaker 6: me whereas With bill was like every like they're in
- 1:27:24Speaker 6: the red zone, Again like it would seem like every
- 1:27:26Speaker 6: day they were stressing.
- 1:27:27Speaker 1: That, brady you knew you were going to be in
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: the red.
- 1:27:29Speaker 5: Zone last, YEAR i would say one of the big,
- 1:27:32Speaker 5: DIFFERENCES i felt like it took a long time to
- 1:27:35Speaker 5: get into practice on a routine. BASIS i felt like
- 1:27:38Speaker 5: the walm up period was like forty five, Minutes AND
- 1:27:41Speaker 5: i think they're much quicker into practice what they actually
- 1:27:45Speaker 5: do in practice for all Three, Belichick, mayo And, VERABLE
- 1:27:48Speaker 5: i agree With.
- 1:27:49Speaker 4: FRED i think they're very.
- 1:27:50Speaker 5: SIMILAR i think the end of The belichick regime kind
- 1:27:53Speaker 5: of had a little bit less of this competition stuff
- 1:27:56Speaker 5: that you're talking, about AND i think people criticize that
- 1:27:59Speaker 5: that seem to be a little bit, Easier BUT i
- 1:28:02Speaker 5: didn't think that last year With mayo had to be.
- 1:28:06Speaker 1: The first five minutes of the practice was dealing With Matt.
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: Judon that was like baked into the into the. Rundown
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: this is period, one period, one deal With now we.
- 1:28:17Speaker 4: Can be like my. Shows one other thing, too is
- 1:28:21Speaker 4: just like we haven't seen the. Host the host hasn't come.
- 1:28:23Speaker 5: Out for the you know when they get all the
- 1:28:25Speaker 5: agree With the progression of practice is generally very. Similar
- 1:28:29Speaker 5: it's Like fred, said it's you, know individual it's position,
- 1:28:32Speaker 5: drills it's seven on, seven it's team periods and roughly
- 1:28:37Speaker 5: the same.
- 1:28:37Speaker 4: Amount Now mike is.
- 1:28:40Speaker 5: Right belichick used to always start with the red, zone
- 1:28:44Speaker 5: And mike has sort of worked his way to the red.
- 1:28:47Speaker 5: Zone AND i think they're probably getting the same amount
- 1:28:51Speaker 5: of reps in the red. Zone it's just going to
- 1:28:52Speaker 5: come in different times of.
- 1:28:53Speaker 3: Practice, yeah like we're talking about like that's like organizing.
- 1:28:57Speaker 3: Practice WHAT i was talking about on the radio this
- 1:28:59Speaker 3: morning was like some DAYS i come out of practice
- 1:29:01Speaker 3: And i'm, LIKE i don't really know who.
- 1:29:02Speaker 4: Won like it was kind of like this was like
- 1:29:05Speaker 4: it was pretty to, me is, different AND i agree with.
- 1:29:07Speaker 5: You last year there was one or two days where we're, like,
- 1:29:09Speaker 5: oh the offense actually punched back. Today, yeah but most
- 1:29:12Speaker 5: days it was the defense just, dominating, right and then you,
- 1:29:14Speaker 5: know guys are right about back and.
- 1:29:16Speaker 4: Forth this year WHEN.
- 1:29:17Speaker 3: I said this morning was like it was always is
- 1:29:20Speaker 3: the defense actually that? Good or is the offense actually this?
- 1:29:23Speaker 3: Bad and how do we judge the defense against this?
- 1:29:25Speaker 3: Offense and like you had that whole mind game that
- 1:29:29Speaker 3: you were sort of playing with yourself of how what
- 1:29:31Speaker 3: does all this really? Mean whereas this, YEAR i feel
- 1:29:34Speaker 3: like it is more of like an iron sharpening iron
- 1:29:37Speaker 3: type of situation hopefully at. Least but in terms of
- 1:29:39Speaker 3: the structure, PRACTICE i just have noticed different, Drills like
- 1:29:42Speaker 3: there's there's different drills for, sure the different stretch different
- 1:29:47Speaker 3: they've been, doing like different drills with the offensive and
- 1:29:49Speaker 3: defensive lines where they're like doing these like grappling drills
- 1:29:52Speaker 3: where they're not actually moving but they just are kind
- 1:29:54Speaker 3: of hand fighting with each other and you know that
- 1:29:56Speaker 3: sort of. Thing and THEN i just call it in my,
- 1:30:00Speaker 3: day we call it inside six where it's just like
- 1:30:02Speaker 3: six blockers against like THE d line and the linebacker
- 1:30:05Speaker 3: level and there's no secondary and there's no. Receivers and
- 1:30:08Speaker 3: they've been doing a lot of. That but it's like
- 1:30:10Speaker 3: one half of the line and it's like one half
- 1:30:13Speaker 3: of the defense and then like the other half on
- 1:30:15Speaker 3: the Other and they actually have mixed in like run and,
- 1:30:19Speaker 3: pass WHICH i think is really. Interesting like and usually
- 1:30:21Speaker 3: withinside sex it's all. Run it's just a run. Period
- 1:30:24Speaker 3: but in this, day like mix in the pass every
- 1:30:26Speaker 3: once in a while just to throw it, off you, know.
- 1:30:29Speaker 4: Just to Get jay And polk a. Touch there's no.
- 1:30:32Speaker 3: Receivers he walked in right behind us off the.
- 1:30:35Speaker 4: Field where was? That then there's no.
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: Receiver the other THING i would. Say the other THING
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: i would SAY i would notice Is i'm just you,
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: know more than, one more than one player has, inferred
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: if not out and outset it that they see a
- 1:30:49Speaker 1: noticeable difference in the coaching players that were here.
- 1:30:53Speaker 3: Last corrections and things like. That, YEAH i think, that you,
- 1:30:56Speaker 3: Know i'm sure that's. Happening you can see that With rabel,
- 1:30:58Speaker 3: though like with some of the drill that they're doing
- 1:31:00Speaker 3: on the on the line of, scrimmage like that's that's
- 1:31:04Speaker 3: his Flot like you can tell that that's his, stamp,
- 1:31:07Speaker 3: Right like he wants to be a physical football. Team
- 1:31:09Speaker 3: he wants to be fundamentally sound up. Front they were
- 1:31:12Speaker 3: so sloppy up front the last couple of, years AND
- 1:31:15Speaker 3: i JUST i don't see, that, like, yeah guys get.
- 1:31:17Speaker 3: Beat guys are gonna get, beat you, know over the
- 1:31:19Speaker 3: course of multiple, practices but you just don't see a
- 1:31:23Speaker 3: lot of like the fundamentals just totally embrace.
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: Many stops and. Stars.
- 1:31:27Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah it's interesting BECAUSE i feel Like bill And
- 1:31:30Speaker 6: mike both have similar philosophies of want and create a tough,
- 1:31:33Speaker 6: team but they kind of go about it different. Ways
- 1:31:35Speaker 6: it's you, know different, personnel different schemes and even just you,
- 1:31:39Speaker 6: KNOW i mean both hopping into drills a little, Bit
- 1:31:41Speaker 6: mike more Than, bill but you, know just more than
- 1:31:44Speaker 6: one way to skin a. Cat and, clearly to, Me,
- 1:31:46Speaker 6: mike we're able putting his stamp all over this, team
- 1:31:49Speaker 6: and that's that's a really good.
- 1:31:50Speaker 4: THING i think they'll reflect his.
- 1:31:51Speaker 1: Toughness H Lindon georgia writes In she says she had
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: to write in even THOUGH i have no true football comments,
- 1:31:57Speaker 1: today thanks for having a very special yes. Today walk
- 1:32:02Speaker 1: through today was, enjoyable especially seeing the returning team members
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: Of hollands And. Davis great analysis of all Things patriots as,
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: usual so she just wanted to.
- 1:32:13Speaker 6: Like where's your, crew where's all your where's Like shutters
- 1:32:15Speaker 6: and And tom and all these guys that you know
- 1:32:17Speaker 6: support you and you should be calling in and, NO
- 1:32:21Speaker 6: i guess.
- 1:32:21Speaker 4: Not, Well claire's been very nice because you, know.
- 1:32:23Speaker 6: BEFORE i worked, HERE i wrote a blog Called Past
- 1:32:26Speaker 6: propaganda and it just kind of went, dead and her
- 1:32:29Speaker 6: And tom have you, know continued to keep it alive
- 1:32:31Speaker 6: and put some posts.
- 1:32:32Speaker 4: Up SO i appreciate that it lives, on but he lives.
- 1:32:35Speaker 1: On and you gave them the keys to the.
- 1:32:36Speaker 3: CASTLE i gave him the keys of the.
- 1:32:37Speaker 6: CASTLE i just you, know keep it. Running and they
- 1:32:39Speaker 6: put up all the posts and. Everything ALTHOUGH i did
- 1:32:41Speaker 6: post one of our one.
- 1:32:42Speaker 4: Of our preview videos on.
- 1:32:43Speaker 6: THERE i was, like, HEY i was just making sure
- 1:32:45Speaker 6: the site was all run, Around, like, HEY i Think
- 1:32:46Speaker 6: i'll put up our our preview, camp you, know our
- 1:32:48Speaker 6: training camp preview that we.
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: Did so have you started the?
- 1:32:52Speaker 6: BEST a good, question, FRIEND i MEAN i noticed two
- 1:32:58Speaker 6: days ago was the first Time brable was in his
- 1:33:00Speaker 6: standard blue vest with the red.
- 1:33:02Speaker 4: Sleeves he had just a windbreaker. On so maybe like
- 1:33:04Speaker 4: me WHEN i wore pants yesterday and everyone had a
- 1:33:06Speaker 4: comment for. Me maybe it was washed. ODAY i, mean,
- 1:33:09Speaker 4: now maybe that's why you were so ungodly.
- 1:33:11Speaker 3: HIGH i mean that was a crazy move.
- 1:33:15Speaker 4: As soon as you watch, it are mine? Today how
- 1:33:18Speaker 4: and THEN i wore long sleeves. TODAY i thought you
- 1:33:20Speaker 4: didn't mind being well. TODAY i could see the long
- 1:33:22Speaker 4: sleeves because it's like. Cold it's not cool to.
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: Hear curtis And Saint louis writes in with the health
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: questions at the outside cornerback, position would you like to
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: see The patriots add some? Depth call it a plan
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: or managing him or. Whatever the fact that we've only
- 1:33:38Speaker 1: Seen davis one day this offseason training, camp on top
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: of That gonzo's hamstring, SITUATION i have some. CONCERNS i
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: would love to see them bringing a guy Like gilmour
- 1:33:48Speaker 1: or maybe A. Sante samuel just wanted your.
- 1:33:50Speaker 4: Thoughts he's talking About junior.
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: There. Yeah, Second, evan it's your. Call from everything you've
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: seen to this, point where would you Put Jared wilson
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: on THIS o line left?
- 1:34:02Speaker 4: Guard you?
- 1:34:03Speaker 3: Would, Yeah I've i've had reservations about him playing center
- 1:34:06Speaker 3: as a rookie for a. WHILE i JUST i.
- 1:34:10Speaker 5: Would need to know more information about his mental abilities
- 1:34:14Speaker 5: BECAUSE i have the same reservations That evan's talking. About
- 1:34:17Speaker 5: but if they were okay with that part of, IT
- 1:34:19Speaker 5: i would rather have him at center because.
- 1:34:20Speaker 3: It's not just but it's like not just the impact
- 1:34:23Speaker 3: that he, has it's across the, board its impact it
- 1:34:26Speaker 3: has on. Him it is the impact it has On,
- 1:34:28Speaker 3: drake like in the offense as a, whole you, know
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: and LIKE i A drake at his press conference today
- 1:34:33Speaker 3: about the pre snap stuff because he's he's in control,
- 1:34:35Speaker 3: now like The josh McDaniels that runs through the, quarterback
- 1:34:38Speaker 3: but the center still has input and the center still
- 1:34:41Speaker 3: makes calls certain, calls you, know, uh four, down three,
- 1:34:45Speaker 3: down like he calls out the. Front how is it?
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: Odd is it?
- 1:34:48Speaker 3: Even? Uh and Then drake takes that information and then
- 1:34:51Speaker 3: he sets the mic and YadA, YadA yo down.
- 1:34:55Speaker 6: CORRECT i totally hear What paul sand though in a
- 1:34:58Speaker 6: perfect more important, position perfect, world him And drake and
- 1:35:01Speaker 6: we just pulled the band aid off and let them
- 1:35:02Speaker 6: take some lumps. Together but then you have that.
- 1:35:05Speaker 4: Stabilized and this is the DUDE i totally.
- 1:35:07Speaker 5: Get AND i Get evans's point of. View if he's
- 1:35:09Speaker 5: not ready for, THAT i don't WANT i don't want
- 1:35:12Speaker 5: to put you, like what if his game falls apart
- 1:35:14Speaker 5: right right and now you're you, know you're potentially damaging him,
- 1:35:17Speaker 5: too like by playing him too quickly if he's not
- 1:35:19Speaker 5: ready for the mental side of, it which you know
- 1:35:22Speaker 5: is a mild concerned With Will campbell with the stuff
- 1:35:25Speaker 5: that we talked about before the break about what was
- 1:35:27Speaker 5: it a mental? Thing is that why he's over?
- 1:35:29Speaker 4: Setting you?
- 1:35:31Speaker 5: Know is he constantly worrying about you, know or's just
- 1:35:34Speaker 5: kind of Habit and it's Not he's not worried about
- 1:35:36Speaker 5: being fast, enough because by all, accounts he's one of
- 1:35:38Speaker 5: the most athletic left tackles that's come out of the
- 1:35:40Speaker 5: draft in a.
- 1:35:41Speaker 3: WHILE i think it's like it's almost all of play
- 1:35:44Speaker 3: sports like a feel, Thing like you just feel yourself
- 1:35:46Speaker 3: losing the edge right like and you just can't help,
- 1:35:49Speaker 3: it and you just. Can, Guy it's like one of
- 1:35:51Speaker 3: those things where like you, know you just kind of
- 1:35:54Speaker 3: like it's not even like you're purposely trying to do.
- 1:35:57Speaker 3: It it's just like it comes Over you're, like, oh,
- 1:35:59Speaker 3: oh he's likechallenge me out, here and then all of a, sudden,
- 1:36:02Speaker 3: YEAH i.
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: Don't, know like we're all you, know Pseudo Dante scarneki
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: is talking about, this but.
- 1:36:08Speaker 3: CORRECT i.
- 1:36:10Speaker 1: Like SOMETIMES i look at it and engage, quicker, like
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: don't back up so?
- 1:36:16Speaker 3: Deep, WELL i think that's what he's, doing, though is
- 1:36:19Speaker 3: he's trying to come out and get his hands.
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: OFF i don't not on. PASS i don't see. THAT
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: i see him on back, pedaling, backpedaling and the first
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: point of contact is like three yards.
- 1:36:29Speaker 3: Deep when he gets bet on the ins like yesterday
- 1:36:32Speaker 3: Against swinson and one on ones he tried to come
- 1:36:34Speaker 3: out and two hand punch him and he got over
- 1:36:37Speaker 3: extended And swinston.
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: JUST i keep working on, That, YEAH i keep working on.
- 1:36:40Speaker 3: That that's that's where he's going to have to strike that.
- 1:36:43Speaker 1: Balance, Ye mars In connecticut on the. Hotline what's, Up?
- 1:36:47Speaker 10: Mark, hey guys were doing?
- 1:36:50Speaker 7: TODAY i.
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: Got a good one for.
- 1:36:56Speaker 7: YOU i don't believe That bulk And baker have A
- 1:36:59Speaker 7: john making the. Roster so what my plan, is is
- 1:37:04Speaker 7: there any trade? Possibility is there any value in these two?
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: PLAYERS i think you package them up for a first. Two,
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: No i'm only Kidd i'm only Kidding. Mark, NO i
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: don't think there is much trade value there, NO i didn't.
- 1:37:19Speaker 7: Think so when are you guys going to be at
- 1:37:21Speaker 7: the in uh in the stadium practice to, Morning.
- 1:37:23Speaker 1: We'll be there, yeah five twelve, Okay, mark.
- 1:37:28Speaker 4: Thanks i'm not going around the, stands not a meet And.
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: Greek oh, yes you don't go around the.
- 1:37:35Speaker 4: RIM i hide in the press boxing right as much
- 1:37:40Speaker 4: AS i. Can, well practice is going, on SO i
- 1:37:42Speaker 4: can go home when it's.
- 1:37:42Speaker 1: Over afterwards you go down the field that when people
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: what's going on and what do you do when you're?
- 1:37:48Speaker 3: Done make when you're Doing no one gets more shoutouts
- 1:37:53Speaker 3: Than deuce at training, CAMP.
- 1:37:55Speaker 4: I will tell, you is a, legitimate legitimate.
- 1:38:00Speaker 3: Celebrity when we did the pre practice, thing went to, Salt.
- 1:38:06Speaker 1: I'm waiting for A t.
- 1:38:07Speaker 5: SHIRT i always feel that's very honored that WHEN i wander,
- 1:38:11Speaker 5: around people just give me the cat calls And i'm,
- 1:38:13Speaker 5: like you, know people know, me except for When i'm
- 1:38:17Speaker 5: walking back from all access during training camp With Mike,
- 1:38:19Speaker 5: greece THEN i might as well not even be, there
- 1:38:22Speaker 5: my GRE i might as well not even be.
- 1:38:24Speaker 4: There it's, like, oh That's mike and that other guy
- 1:38:27Speaker 4: in his own with single person on the planet.
- 1:38:30Speaker 6: Knows, yeah, yeah that's they should should you know what's
- 1:38:33Speaker 6: gonna fun tomorrow And paul is figuring out who's on
- 1:38:36Speaker 6: the blue team and who's on the white.
- 1:38:37Speaker 4: Team, OH i can't wait for the.
- 1:38:38Speaker 3: Tweets it sounds, like you, Know drake said it today
- 1:38:42Speaker 3: in his press, conference like they're. Expecting he, said we're
- 1:38:45Speaker 3: going to split the teams up and we're going to.
- 1:38:47Speaker 5: Scrimmage and basically what they've, done and That bill used
- 1:38:52Speaker 5: to you, know you'd have to identify which offensive guys
- 1:38:54Speaker 5: are wearing, blue.
- 1:38:55Speaker 3: Right but they but he made it Build it wasn't,
- 1:38:58Speaker 3: Competitive LIKE i don't think it's. Gonaive wasn't. Competitive they're
- 1:39:03Speaker 3: saying it's a.
- 1:39:04Speaker 6: Scrimmage, well but, seriously, though isn't there just a small
- 1:39:07Speaker 6: part of your brain that thinks Like frable's just crazy
- 1:39:10Speaker 6: enough to have some overly physical.
- 1:39:11Speaker 4: Practices, well it's a small.
- 1:39:14Speaker 5: Problem i'll tell you guys THAT i didn't see this
- 1:39:17Speaker 5: coming Because bill called it.
- 1:39:19Speaker 4: A scrimmage every. Year, no he didn't that market is
- 1:39:23Speaker 4: going to say scrimmage every. Year it was never. COMPETITIVE
- 1:39:28Speaker 4: i don't expect it to be AND i don't expect
- 1:39:32Speaker 4: to be much different than what we've. Seen why is,
- 1:39:34Speaker 4: that BECAUSE i just don't think it makes a lot of,
- 1:39:36Speaker 4: sense especially after three padded days, earlier in that continuation
- 1:39:40Speaker 4: of what you've.
- 1:39:41Speaker 1: Seen, YEAH i would say if if this is overly,
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: physical it would be counter to what he's been doing
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: and what players say he's been. Doing like he is
- 1:39:50Speaker 1: cognizant of our health right, Now he's not going to
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: beat us up this. Early but at some point you've
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: got to get ready for tackle, football you. Know but
- 1:39:58Speaker 1: it's never been during this in stadium that they do.
- 1:40:00Speaker 5: That so and if they're if there are, guys you,
- 1:40:03Speaker 5: know like there are guys catching passes across the middle
- 1:40:05Speaker 5: and safeties are lower in the, boom Then i'll, say.
- 1:40:08Speaker 4: Hey bill never did. That that's knocking guys.
- 1:40:11Speaker 5: OUT i don't think they'll be. TACKLING i don't think
- 1:40:13Speaker 5: they'll Be they'll be hitting on the line like we've.
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: Seen, YEAH i don't think we want to see that right.
- 1:40:17Speaker 1: Now you don't want to see open. Field we.
- 1:40:19Speaker 3: Did we did see that last year with had them
- 1:40:22Speaker 3: tackling to the ground in, practice and it was like
- 1:40:25Speaker 3: it was eye.
- 1:40:25Speaker 4: Opening, yeah it.
- 1:40:26Speaker 3: Was that's a good way to describe. It, YEAH i.
- 1:40:29Speaker 5: Was And bill has had full padded practices and, that
- 1:40:31Speaker 5: and he's had practices when they're in the.
- 1:40:33Speaker 4: Shell, well, yeah the.
- 1:40:34Speaker 1: Shells, yeah even with the full padded they.
- 1:40:37Speaker 4: Don't, NOW i still think it's all just for, you
- 1:40:41Speaker 4: the only. One the pomp and circumstance of the, game.
- 1:40:43Speaker 5: And you, know this is where we go and then
- 1:40:45Speaker 5: this is how It, WELL i think that's a big
- 1:40:48Speaker 5: part of what they do is the whole game. Operation you,
- 1:40:51Speaker 5: know you want to get a play clock, going you
- 1:40:53Speaker 5: want to have you, know defensive.
- 1:40:55Speaker 4: Stuff them coming from the. Sideline you don't want to
- 1:40:57Speaker 4: make sure that the right personnel groups on that is it.
- 1:41:00Speaker 4: Is it's like a big part of.
- 1:41:01Speaker 3: IT i know it sounds silly because these guys are
- 1:41:03Speaker 3: professional football, players but you, know coming from the sideline
- 1:41:06Speaker 3: and the signals in the in the play calls coming
- 1:41:08Speaker 3: from the sideline on the headset like that is different
- 1:41:10Speaker 3: than what it is at.
- 1:41:11Speaker 5: Practice so it would be another one who's calling the
- 1:41:14Speaker 5: plays for the blue. Team McDaniels is calling the offense
- 1:41:17Speaker 5: for the white, Team todd Down Thomas, brown but Experienceator.
- 1:41:26Speaker 1: David And bethlehem writs and please comment On Todd downing
- 1:41:30Speaker 1: being an improvement Over tyler Hughes, In Taekwan, underwood, McDaniels
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: And downing seem a potent. Combo first blush ten and
- 1:41:37Speaker 1: seven in.
- 1:41:37Speaker 6: Playoffs, well he's just an experienced coach who's been an
- 1:41:40Speaker 6: offensive coordinator. Before AND i mean that was TYLERHES i think. First,
- 1:41:44Speaker 6: yeah time he had AN nfl. Receiver room came from
- 1:41:48Speaker 6: college a brief time, Here so it's JUST i want
- 1:41:51Speaker 6: to see what it looks like BEFORE i just deemed it.
- 1:41:53Speaker 6: Better i'm crazy like.
- 1:41:54Speaker 3: THAT i STILL i still wish that they had hired
- 1:41:58Speaker 3: a like skill, coach like a wide, receiver former wide,
- 1:42:03Speaker 3: receiver like A Wes welker type or something like, that
- 1:42:05Speaker 3: that is a guy that played the position that LIKE
- 1:42:10Speaker 3: i Think Todd downing conceptually can teach and can coach
- 1:42:13Speaker 3: the offense like this is your route, depth this is your,
- 1:42:15Speaker 3: release this is where you're supposed to. Be this is
- 1:42:17Speaker 3: the Concept like you, know this is what this guy's
- 1:42:20Speaker 3: doing next to. You but like who's who's Taking Kyle
- 1:42:23Speaker 3: williams to the side and like coaching him up on
- 1:42:25Speaker 3: the top of the route or his release or you,
- 1:42:28Speaker 3: know something like like those real like details like the
- 1:42:31Speaker 3: minutia of playing the. Position you, Know Todd downing has
- 1:42:34Speaker 3: also never done it before at that's. Position so at
- 1:42:38Speaker 3: the risk.
- 1:42:38Speaker 22: Of Rolling paul, Up i'm going to Say i'm going
- 1:42:40Speaker 22: with the ten and seven.
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: Though, OKAY i think there's a lot of.
- 1:42:43Speaker 5: People a lot of people will tell you that's. Low
- 1:42:47Speaker 5: i've heard eleven twelve. Wins i've heard.
- 1:42:49Speaker 3: Only one person said twelve.
- 1:42:51Speaker 4: WINS i just hate those, Predictions.
- 1:42:55Speaker 1: Steven ireland writes In Great, camp so far they've given
- 1:42:59Speaker 1: me optimism of the coming, season without the over the
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: top we're going to the Super bowl feeling that other
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: shows will give you and Not paul. SHOWS i don't,
- 1:43:07Speaker 1: sup But i'm my massive fan of.
- 1:43:09Speaker 4: PAULS i have not heard any Super Bowl just you
- 1:43:11Speaker 4: wait a question for.
- 1:43:13Speaker 1: Today after seeing Mac hollins go right into the top
- 1:43:15Speaker 1: receiver group, today is there any feeling that he is
- 1:43:18Speaker 1: there to kind of Mentor booty and the other young
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: guys mainly in a watch and learned kind of way
- 1:43:23Speaker 1: for the, season and also keep what was a messy
- 1:43:25Speaker 1: group last year working with a high professional standard through each.
- 1:43:29Speaker 1: Week and then that also Gives diggs more of a
- 1:43:32Speaker 1: chance to rehab and be the top receiver without having
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: to worry about the. OTHERS i don't Think hollins or
- 1:43:39Speaker 1: Boot digs are worried about the.
- 1:43:40Speaker 3: OTHERS i think that's exactly Why hollins is. Here is
- 1:43:43Speaker 3: what the emailers said to mentor to. Babysit. Yeah, REALLY
- 1:43:48Speaker 3: i think he's been known as a as a guy
- 1:43:50Speaker 3: that it's a pretty good locker room, guy good.
- 1:43:52Speaker 1: Character oh okay, that but he's not out there coaching
- 1:43:54Speaker 1: other players.
- 1:43:55Speaker 3: Coaching, no BUT i think that he's there to and
- 1:43:57Speaker 3: hold for.
- 1:43:58Speaker 4: Sure, no that's setting.
- 1:43:59Speaker 6: EXAMPLE i would say that's the biggest thing for me
- 1:44:01Speaker 6: With diggs is just watch and, learn, guys this is
- 1:44:03Speaker 6: what this is what it's supposed to look.
- 1:44:05Speaker 5: Like and evidently that's been a positive process because all
- 1:44:08Speaker 5: the other receivers are talking about.
- 1:44:09Speaker 4: How good he's been to.
- 1:44:11Speaker 6: THEM i just point out to like almost every Day
- 1:44:14Speaker 6: digs goes in signs. Too SO i KNOW i was
- 1:44:15Speaker 6: hard on him when he was a member of The
- 1:44:16Speaker 6: bills and kicking our, butt but, like, YEAH i love
- 1:44:19Speaker 6: WHAT i love What i've seen on the field off
- 1:44:21Speaker 6: the field so. Far you, know we had a little
- 1:44:23Speaker 6: hicke up earlier this, year but otherwise that's behind him
- 1:44:25Speaker 6: and they all come.
- 1:44:26Speaker 4: Around so LATER i, know, well just.
- 1:44:28Speaker 3: Like a little story about mc. Collins Uh soft And
- 1:44:31Speaker 3: chisholm was talking after. PRACTICE i mentioned that and uh
- 1:44:34Speaker 3: he said that mac collins asked him for a ride
- 1:44:36Speaker 3: home one, day WHICH i think is. Hilarious like he
- 1:44:38Speaker 3: doesn't have cover shoes so he didn't, walk so so
- 1:44:41Speaker 3: he asked mccollins Asked chisholm for a ride, home And
- 1:44:45Speaker 3: Fton chishm said, sure of, course they're driving home and
- 1:44:47Speaker 3: mc collins, said, OH i Like i'm. Going you. Know
- 1:44:50Speaker 3: chisten said what you were what are you? Doing what
- 1:44:53Speaker 3: are you doing after? This and mac collins, said, Oh
- 1:44:55Speaker 3: i'm going and going to study the playbook and ft chism,
- 1:44:58Speaker 3: SECOND i come with, you and he, said, yeah sure
- 1:45:01Speaker 3: we can do it. Together and then so now after
- 1:45:05Speaker 3: every day mccollins And Efton chisholm are watching film, together
- 1:45:10Speaker 3: studying the, playbook preparing for the next day, together doing
- 1:45:13Speaker 3: all these types of. THINGS i think that's exactly why
- 1:45:15Speaker 3: mac collins is, here is to do that kind of
- 1:45:18Speaker 3: stuff and play special teams and run.
- 1:45:20Speaker 4: Block.
- 1:45:21Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he needs to get on the, field jump.
- 1:45:24Speaker 4: Balls he is on the.
- 1:45:25Speaker 20: Field now he's back but didn't digcite sorry on his
- 1:45:29Speaker 20: FIRST i think it was his very first. Presser the
- 1:45:33Speaker 20: tone of what he was, saying BECAUSE i can't remember
- 1:45:35Speaker 20: it word for, word was that he's setting an example
- 1:45:39Speaker 20: sort of thing for the younger guys to come.
- 1:45:41Speaker 22: IN i, MEAN i know it was like months and months.
- 1:45:42Speaker 4: Ago, now well he's playing like it for.
- 1:45:44Speaker 6: SURE i, mean everything you've seen of, him AND i
- 1:45:46Speaker 6: just to me at the bottom line is watch him
- 1:45:48Speaker 6: play like, that jumps, out watching him run, routes catch the, ball.
- 1:45:53Speaker 4: Turn it up, field show a little. Speed and you're
- 1:45:56Speaker 4: telling me this guy is still. Recovery do you.
- 1:45:57Speaker 1: Think it's kept him from being you, know and every
- 1:46:00Speaker 1: redown Receiver.
- 1:46:01Speaker 4: Matt, Collins, yeah oh. Uh was he with The raiders,
- 1:46:05Speaker 4: THOUGH i MEAN i.
- 1:46:06Speaker 6: DON'T i mean when we saw The, raiders it was those.
- 1:46:08Speaker 6: Three it was him And adams And Hunter renfro AND
- 1:46:11Speaker 6: i really was impressed with. Him AND i remember looking
- 1:46:13Speaker 6: on my phone and being, like how's this guy kind
- 1:46:15Speaker 6: of bumped around because he's got good.
- 1:46:16Speaker 4: Size he's tearing The patriots up right?
- 1:46:18Speaker 3: Now you?
- 1:46:19Speaker 5: Know it was it just he stood out to, Me
- 1:46:20Speaker 5: AM i saying with him THAT i can't figure, out
- 1:46:22Speaker 5: AND i don't know how good he is, technically you,
- 1:46:25Speaker 5: know quote unquote how. Good but everybody talks About Matt
- 1:46:31Speaker 5: collins the Way evan, described you, know how good he's
- 1:46:34Speaker 5: been to teammates and positive presence in the locker.
- 1:46:37Speaker 4: Room yet he's been on a million. Teams yeah, right
- 1:46:39Speaker 4: and that's usually a red flight for there's a lot
- 1:46:41Speaker 4: of like one year stops because he's a.
- 1:46:43Speaker 3: Nomad you can't you can't cage mccollins.
- 1:46:47Speaker 5: Like this is like not a LIKE i think he's
- 1:46:50Speaker 5: overrated as a leader or as a. TEAMMATE i don't
- 1:46:53Speaker 5: think that at. All i'm wondering why a guy with
- 1:46:56Speaker 5: that reputation has been on five.
- 1:46:58Speaker 3: Teams, yeah so he played a ninety three percent of
- 1:47:02Speaker 3: the snaps With, vegas With josh And.
- 1:47:03Speaker 4: Vegas he wasn't every down player and.
- 1:47:05Speaker 3: Things, yeah last year with The, bills it was sixty
- 1:47:08Speaker 3: six percent of the. Snaps well that's not that.
- 1:47:10Speaker 4: BAD i would have got. It so last year with
- 1:47:13Speaker 4: The bill, down they also had absolutely no. Receivers, yeah,
- 1:47:16Speaker 4: yeah they got rid Of diggs and started all. Over
- 1:47:19Speaker 4: so he probably had to mentor.
- 1:47:20Speaker 5: People, yeah now they feel Like shakir is at a
- 1:47:23Speaker 5: different level and they probably didn't.
- 1:47:25Speaker 4: Special you know what ELSE i wonder ev is he
- 1:47:27Speaker 4: seems like special Team no, no.
- 1:47:29Speaker 6: Uh he seems like the perfect guy to do what
- 1:47:32Speaker 6: we've been talking so much about THE x And josh
- 1:47:34Speaker 6: at McDaniel's, offense where you're really just kind of running
- 1:47:38Speaker 6: goes or comebacks and there's not you, know when the
- 1:47:40Speaker 6: ball's probably not going to you a. Lot and he
- 1:47:42Speaker 6: seems to have that perfect personality to be that guy, who,
- 1:47:45Speaker 6: Yeah i'm happy to be the guy who takes the
- 1:47:47Speaker 6: top off the defense and maybe makes a contest to
- 1:47:48Speaker 6: catch downfield or you, know occasionally gets behind the. Defense
- 1:47:51Speaker 6: so maybe that's part of it, too is he's well
- 1:47:54Speaker 6: equipped to kind of do What josh is gonna.
- 1:47:55Speaker 3: Ask he's SACRIFICIAL x and, yeah SACRIFICIAL. X how was
- 1:48:01Speaker 3: how does he crack the end to you, know like
- 1:48:04Speaker 3: he's a good run, blocker AND i think that's a
- 1:48:06Speaker 3: big part of his game as. Well you, know he's
- 1:48:09Speaker 3: the guy like at receiver that you can like use
- 1:48:12Speaker 3: as like a weapon in the run, Game like you
- 1:48:15Speaker 3: can have him block you, know different body types and
- 1:48:18Speaker 3: things like that that like you can move him around
- 1:48:20Speaker 3: and take him from different angles and stuff that allow.
- 1:48:25Speaker 4: WEAPONS i.
- 1:48:27Speaker 1: Heard the weapon in the run.
- 1:48:29Speaker 3: Game it's one dimensional.
- 1:48:31Speaker 6: WEAPON i JUST i think you add it all up
- 1:48:34Speaker 6: and you see why he's, here and we'll see if
- 1:48:37Speaker 6: he goes back to that. ROLE i think that's what
- 1:48:39Speaker 6: everybody's perked up for. Now is he going to Push
- 1:48:42Speaker 6: booty for for significant playing time or is you, know
- 1:48:44Speaker 6: we're going to be a spot, receiver which and special teams,
- 1:48:47Speaker 6: guy which is WHAT i think we thought he'd be
- 1:48:49Speaker 6: all off.
- 1:48:49Speaker 4: Season, okay.
- 1:48:53Speaker 1: Let's see lots of, emails not a phone calls, Too
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: so let's get to the phone. Calls what do we?
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: Who i'm looking at the line up?
- 1:49:01Speaker 4: Here who's From Order?
- 1:49:03Speaker 1: Lost Johnny todd's In North? Carolina Hey, Todd Todd Tad
- 1:49:08Speaker 1: hey Get?
- 1:49:08Speaker 7: Thanks, okay. Thanks SO i think you guys came to
- 1:49:12Speaker 7: a conclusion That may is going to be what drives
- 1:49:17Speaker 7: this season and his progress and his. Maturity i'm still
- 1:49:22Speaker 7: worried about the, line not so much the, tackles BUT
- 1:49:26Speaker 7: i really don't Like bridberry at the. CENTER i went
- 1:49:30Speaker 7: watching him with the film last, year and at times
- 1:49:33Speaker 7: he's a turnstile when the passing. Protection he just doesn't
- 1:49:36Speaker 7: seem to he's snapping the, ball he should be able
- 1:49:40Speaker 7: to act, immediately and he seems like. Slow have you
- 1:49:43Speaker 7: guys seen that at? All and what you've been watching
- 1:49:46Speaker 7: the training? Camp and who could we reused to replace
- 1:49:49Speaker 7: in this strange a possibility? Still or is that shift?
- 1:49:52Speaker 7: Sailed thank? G all?
- 1:49:54Speaker 9: Right?
- 1:49:54Speaker 1: Thanks so Was Ben? Brown?
- 1:49:56Speaker 3: YEAH i Think Ben brown's kicking. Around SO I bradberry's
- 1:49:59Speaker 3: issue his play Straight like he's just not a particularly
- 1:50:02Speaker 3: strong or big, center and so in pass, protection especially
- 1:50:06Speaker 3: like against bigger nose, tackles he can get bullied a little,
- 1:50:09Speaker 3: bit you, know just go backwards and put it.
- 1:50:12Speaker 1: Politely but having said, that the season does depend On
- 1:50:16Speaker 1: Drake may.
- 1:50:17Speaker 6: It, DOES i, Mean and then that's the extreme, example
- 1:50:19Speaker 6: AND i hate comparisons to, him but his ability to
- 1:50:22Speaker 6: get the ball out quick and read the defense and
- 1:50:24Speaker 6: nowhere to go with it right after the snap The
- 1:50:26Speaker 6: josh McDaniels thing helped mitigate some of the ups and
- 1:50:29Speaker 6: downs they had along their offensive. Line, again that's an extreme.
- 1:50:33Speaker 6: Connection but at the same, time If drake continues to
- 1:50:36Speaker 6: progress and gets the ball out, fast AND i mean
- 1:50:39Speaker 6: he said it, himself that was the biggest. TAKEAWAY i
- 1:50:41Speaker 6: think it was also AN nfl network yesterday When josh
- 1:50:43Speaker 6: Shows Tom brady's, film and it was the same thing
- 1:50:45Speaker 6: WHEN pauli AND i sat with. Him WHAT i came
- 1:50:47Speaker 6: away most to me is was was that he knew
- 1:50:50Speaker 6: exactly what he was doing after the snap, before you,
- 1:50:52Speaker 6: know he could process. EVERYTHING i mean Even tom said
- 1:50:55Speaker 6: it himself that he would look at The chiefs defense
- 1:50:58Speaker 6: and be, like, YEAH i know exactly what they're every.
- 1:51:00Speaker 6: Time so If drake can get to that, level some
- 1:51:02Speaker 6: of these concerns that we have about some of the
- 1:51:04Speaker 6: offensive line or some of the weapons like that.
- 1:51:06Speaker 1: Stuff it's not all good if the offensive line isn't,
- 1:51:11Speaker 1: good but it'll he can make it.
- 1:51:13Speaker 4: Better, yeah he can at least help and avoid some of.
- 1:51:15Speaker 6: Them if the line is really good And Drake may, isn't,
- 1:51:20Speaker 6: well he's he's he knows when they're going to send.
- 1:51:22Speaker 4: PRESSURE i don't think that's going to.
- 1:51:23Speaker 1: Happen by the, Way i'm just, SAYING i still put
- 1:51:26Speaker 1: the hopes of the season On Drake.
- 1:51:28Speaker 20: May CAN i push back and, say, well wouldn't you
- 1:51:30Speaker 20: maybe put it On RABEL i would understand what you're
- 1:51:33Speaker 20: saying About Drake. May, yes he's pivotal but it feels
- 1:51:36Speaker 20: like Now rabel's in the, building everything feels.
- 1:51:39Speaker 1: Maybe BUT i think he has made things. Better where
- 1:51:43Speaker 1: do you fall on The brady Versus belichick? Debate you
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: better fall on the right. Side going to get no?
- 1:51:52Speaker 22: Comment, Okay, no to be, fair it's it, was it's
- 1:51:56Speaker 22: a tandem. One they have to be.
- 1:51:59Speaker 20: Together it's a lightning stroke and they were both there
- 1:52:02Speaker 20: at the right, time and it and it Created that's
- 1:52:05Speaker 20: a great.
- 1:52:05Speaker 3: Answer no hit, me good, ANSWER a terrible.
- 1:52:08Speaker 4: Answer one of those guys won a Super bowl without the.
- 1:52:11Speaker 22: Other, yeah, well completely honestly. True he also has Well, Listen.
- 1:52:16Speaker 1: I've always said behind each of them made the other. Better,
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: yeah this is BUT i think THAT i Think. Brady
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: IF i had to start a team, TODAY i would
- 1:52:26Speaker 1: start With brady.
- 1:52:29Speaker 5: The.
- 1:52:29Speaker 1: Player he's the, player and that's why you Mentioned Vrabel
- 1:52:33Speaker 1: absolutely important change the, culture, positive, Positive but it's the.
- 1:52:39Speaker 1: PLAYERS i Think bill would.
- 1:52:40Speaker 3: AGREE i know you probably don't think he, would But
- 1:52:43Speaker 3: bill would definitely not.
- 1:52:44Speaker 4: AGREE i don't think he would say the right.
- 1:52:46Speaker 3: Thing, no we. Wouldn't you don't think that If bill
- 1:52:49Speaker 3: it was if someone said To, bill would you like
- 1:52:51Speaker 3: rather yourself Or? Brady he would say me.
- 1:52:54Speaker 4: Would start the team with, no he would think.
- 1:52:56Speaker 3: ME i, WOULD i, mean might not say. That but
- 1:52:59Speaker 3: if you said, so all of the players win the.
- 1:53:02Speaker 3: Game stuff is all lip. Service for twenty five, years
- 1:53:05Speaker 3: we just.
- 1:53:05Speaker 1: Go by his.
- 1:53:06Speaker 4: Act how many times have we said, this don't go
- 1:53:08Speaker 4: by go by what he. Does?
- 1:53:10Speaker 20: Yeah SEE i can throw something more inflammatory because you
- 1:53:13Speaker 20: say About brady and one of the things THAT i
- 1:53:15Speaker 20: think particularly sort of the second half of his, career
- 1:53:18Speaker 20: BECAUSE i know you split it up into, two is
- 1:53:20Speaker 20: the ground. Connection there was a big deal in the
- 1:53:23Speaker 20: success of the, offense and he took that To. Tampa,
- 1:53:26Speaker 20: now Whilst i'm not saying that Like gronk Replaced bill
- 1:53:29Speaker 20: and that's why they won A Super bowl and things.
- 1:53:30Speaker 22: Like, that but it isn't just the summer of one.
- 1:53:33Speaker 5: Part, YEAH i wouldn't suggest that they only won a
- 1:53:36Speaker 5: Super bowl because Of, brady ALTHOUGH i would say it
- 1:53:39Speaker 5: was ninety five percent of.
- 1:53:40Speaker 18: It but.
- 1:53:43Speaker 5: If you ask me if it's about a great coach
- 1:53:46Speaker 5: with a bad quarterback or a bad coach with a great,
- 1:53:50Speaker 5: Quarterback i'll take the ladder every single.
- 1:53:52Speaker 22: Time, YEAH i can see.
- 1:53:53Speaker 3: THAT i, MEAN i see, WHY i, MEAN i know
- 1:53:56Speaker 3: what you think Of Zach, Taylor ZACK i was gonna Go. Tony,
- 1:54:00Speaker 3: honestly she was.
- 1:54:01Speaker 4: A pretty Good Zach. Taylor he he did With Sean
- 1:54:08Speaker 4: king to THE Nfc championship, game For god's, sakes that's.
- 1:54:12Speaker 4: Good Sean king couldn't.
- 1:54:13Speaker 9: Play.
- 1:54:14Speaker 6: No part of the problem with, Argument paul is that
- 1:54:16Speaker 6: he's done all these five hundred. Times, no What you've
- 1:54:18Speaker 6: also done all of, Them and so you Started claire
- 1:54:20Speaker 6: out with just Like i'm gonna start off with level, One,
- 1:54:22Speaker 6: paul you just gave. HER i can't give player, no, no,
- 1:54:28Speaker 6: NO i, know but that's but you were JUST i,
- 1:54:30Speaker 6: can but can't. You but see what's happened to me
- 1:54:34Speaker 6: Is i've been on this show. Longer is that when you,
- 1:54:36Speaker 6: know every DAY i start talking football with my dad
- 1:54:39Speaker 6: and he started or when best was WHEN i went
- 1:54:41Speaker 6: away with all my college buddies and they start laying
- 1:54:43Speaker 6: into me about their thoughts on The, patriots and ALL
- 1:54:45Speaker 6: i could think about is just Like i've Had i've
- 1:54:47Speaker 6: had these arguments a hundred different, times And i'm, like
- 1:54:49Speaker 6: you don't like.
- 1:54:50Speaker 3: That, No it's Like i'm, trying like this is my time.
- 1:54:53Speaker 3: Off LIKE i.
- 1:54:54Speaker 5: Figured he would like put Like awn, no you, know
- 1:54:59Speaker 5: he's Like brando at the, Opening evan will see.
- 1:55:03Speaker 4: You this is WHAT i.
- 1:55:04Speaker 1: Do this is WHAT i.
- 1:55:05Speaker 3: DO i walk into like a holiday AND i say twenty,
- 1:55:09Speaker 3: minutes this is. It and then when we're, done we're.
- 1:55:13Speaker 3: Done And i'm not doing this AND.
- 1:55:15Speaker 23: I HAVE i know you said twenty BECAUSE i questions
- 1:55:17Speaker 23: like no one just please because THE a on the
- 1:55:23Speaker 23: back side of ball soup, peace just.
- 1:55:29Speaker 4: Come, in come.
- 1:55:30Speaker 5: In you don't like when you are out with like, friends,
- 1:55:34Speaker 5: FAMILY i shut it. Down so, NO i think we
- 1:55:36Speaker 5: all would like, to BUT i, do you, KNOW i
- 1:55:40Speaker 5: just LIKE i don't know.
- 1:55:41Speaker 4: That.
- 1:55:41Speaker 5: Yeah my favorite part of What evan's talking about is
- 1:55:44Speaker 5: the people that sort of recognize that you really don't
- 1:55:46Speaker 5: want to talk about and they're, LIKE i know you
- 1:55:49Speaker 5: talk about this stuff all the, time.
- 1:55:50Speaker 4: But then they doesn't stop them from going to a
- 1:55:53Speaker 4: ten Minute and that's why all the things they.
- 1:55:55Speaker 6: Think with my college, BUDDIES i just started throwing some
- 1:55:58Speaker 6: little level one perilla with, them like you did you
- 1:56:00Speaker 6: know just well you know what about you.
- 1:56:01Speaker 4: Know, this like you, know oh, yeah how many?
- 1:56:04Speaker 1: Levels that's a good.
- 1:56:04Speaker 4: Point there's.
- 1:56:08Speaker 3: He's like an, onion what's like level, five level?
- 1:56:11Speaker 9: Ten.
- 1:56:11Speaker 4: Parillo oh, man that's a.
- 1:56:13Speaker 3: Lookout i've only seen level Ten parillo like once or.
- 1:56:18Speaker 3: Twice it hasn't been a level ten levels, REALLY i
- 1:56:23Speaker 3: can think of one, time but all The Joe milton.
- 1:56:28Speaker 4: That was about as heated AS i get on this.
- 1:56:30Speaker 12: Show but that is funny because when you're the. Rational
- 1:56:35Speaker 12: they had to get rid of. Him why because it
- 1:56:37Speaker 12: was a Problem drake may thank, you bite no. Further
- 1:56:40Speaker 12: he was just a problem For, drake.
- 1:56:43Speaker 3: You, know for defenses.
- 1:56:44Speaker 4: Too my, god you will not even admit that that
- 1:56:48Speaker 4: was why they got rid of.
- 1:56:49Speaker 1: Him, no it. Wasn't it was level because he and
- 1:56:52Speaker 1: his agent were a pain in the. Ass you're not
- 1:56:56Speaker 1: who you think you. Are see you, Later.
- 1:56:59Speaker 5: OKAY i would suggest you do a little bit more.
- 1:57:01Speaker 5: Research i'm not guessing on, this.
- 1:57:03Speaker 1: Okay the, way all, RIGHT i, know all, right we're
- 1:57:07Speaker 1: gonna do real quick because we're running to the Show White. Ground,
- 1:57:10Speaker 1: yeah real.
- 1:57:11Speaker 9: Quick.
- 1:57:11Speaker 1: Shows, eldred what's?
- 1:57:12Speaker 4: Up?
- 1:57:15Speaker 1: Aldred?
- 1:57:16Speaker 9: Hey Hey?
- 1:57:18Speaker 7: Claire good see how You let's?
- 1:57:21Speaker 4: Go let's, Go.
- 1:57:24Speaker 10: Claire Was Tom brady twenty five.
- 1:57:29Speaker 4: Boom level Ten eldred drop throw.
- 1:57:32Speaker 7: No bad he did read no no. Team OH i.
- 1:57:36Speaker 4: Don't know about reading good. FRIENDS i was some videos
- 1:57:41Speaker 4: to help. Them we're going you could be a.
- 1:57:46Speaker 10: Great coach with no player.
- 1:57:50Speaker 11: The.
- 1:57:50Speaker 10: Playbook, oh you gonna be a great coat book player
- 1:57:56Speaker 10: and you wear a Super bowl and the great player to.
- 1:58:00Speaker 4: Break that's. Fair i'm, sorry all, right all, right.
- 1:58:03Speaker 1: Thanks let's go To danny And. Daytona what's, Up? Danny, yes, yes, quickly,
- 1:58:14Speaker 1: hey so.
- 1:58:15Speaker 10: QUICKLY i just want to say one.
- 1:58:16Speaker 7: Thing everybody is going crazy about the ten and seven
- 1:58:20Speaker 7: and eleven.
- 1:58:21Speaker 6: Wins that's.
- 1:58:22Speaker 10: CRAZY i think realistically the team's gonna go nine and.
- 1:58:25Speaker 10: Eight About, paul he was kind.
- 1:58:29Speaker 14: Of you, know being negative, fancy BUT i, think like he.
- 1:58:33Speaker 7: Said maybe work they get six, wins BUT i think realistically.
- 1:58:38Speaker 1: Eight, okay that's. Fair Thanks.
- 1:58:42Speaker 4: DANNY i could see.
- 1:58:43Speaker 1: THAT i, said, SEE i, said floor, six ceialing. TEN i.
- 1:58:46Speaker 3: Win if they go nine and, Eight i'm.
- 1:58:47Speaker 5: Happy i'd Be i'd be happy with nine and a,
- 1:58:50Speaker 5: Too But i'm not. NEGATIVE i think they could go
- 1:58:52Speaker 5: nine and. Eight christian In New, york what's Up?
- 1:58:54Speaker 1: Christian?
- 1:58:56Speaker 4: You Claire, Claire, Hi Christian.
- 1:59:03Speaker 7: New.
- 1:59:03Speaker 10: York do you get uh better offended when the guys do?
- 1:59:09Speaker 22: That, no it's just what they do it's.
- 1:59:14Speaker 4: Fine it's.
- 1:59:14Speaker 22: Cool, no it's.
- 1:59:15Speaker 1: Cool It's.
- 1:59:15Speaker 22: Christian it's nice to be recognized In New, York.
- 1:59:20Speaker 5: New.
- 1:59:20Speaker 10: York i'm In New. York, unfortunately defendited my. Dad we
- 1:59:24Speaker 10: have to put him in a nerdy. Home.
- 1:59:25Speaker 4: Ho i'm, Sorry. Christian the end of the it's going to.
- 1:59:34Speaker 10: Happen several of you guys have been, there right the
- 1:59:37Speaker 10: first time you see your dad like mall and. Weak
- 1:59:40Speaker 10: it's a real like transformative, thing you.
- 1:59:43Speaker 1: Know UNFORTUNATELY i never got that. Chance but, anyway all,
- 1:59:46Speaker 1: Right Christian.
- 1:59:48Speaker 2: Football What i've noticed is our guild players and even
- 1:59:52Speaker 2: some of our offensive linemen seem to be.
- 1:59:54Speaker 10: Undersigned is that like a trend in the? League or
- 1:59:58Speaker 10: are we just like under By?
- 2:00:00Speaker 9: Tea, Yeah i'll.
- 2:00:02Speaker 10: Take Up eric to see you. Guys, Okay, claire keep
- 2:00:05Speaker 10: coming back and on the state.
- 2:00:07Speaker 4: Guys oh yeah for, sure. Thanks, Thanks will you in
- 2:00:10Speaker 4: like handle?
- 2:00:11Speaker 1: GUYS a trend for? Lineman, NO i haven't thought about.
- 2:00:14Speaker 3: That, YEAH i mean, Underside Like campbell's arms are a little,
- 2:00:17Speaker 3: short but he's six, six three hundred and thirty. Pounds
- 2:00:19Speaker 3: that wouldn't call that.
- 2:00:20Speaker 4: UNDERSIZED i really think their offensive line is underside.
- 2:00:23Speaker 3: When cold strange wasn't the biggest guy, Now Colt strange,
- 2:00:25Speaker 3: undersized And Jared wilson's built more like a center than
- 2:00:27Speaker 3: a guard in terms of his. Size maybe he's.
- 2:00:30Speaker 1: Never huge, guard he's huge most.
- 2:00:34Speaker 4: In campbell regular size. Tas.
- 2:00:37Speaker 1: Yeah all, right that's gonna be it for this edition
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