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Florida State Needs To Win The ACC Title, But Does It Need Style Points? · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  All right, let's do it third hour morning show with Preston, Scott and
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  Preston. That's Grant. Good to be with you. Hope you had a
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  nice Thanksgiving holiday. It's time to talk a little IFSU football and isn't it
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  fun to still be talking football? Irischavelle joins us managing editor at war chan
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  dot com. Hello, Ira, Hey Preston, how you doing good?
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  You make it out of Gainesville without your car being keyed? Yeah? I
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  did. I don't think there was. I didn't have any no flags on
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  the car, so I think I was okay. Yeah, but you probably
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  had a Leon County tag on your on your plate, so you know,
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  I survived the trip. And like you said, you know, the Noles
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  are twelve and zero and it's it's good times. What was your takeaway from
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  that game? Uh, you know, I think it was impressive, the
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  fact that they kind of weathered the storm. I mean, I think the
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  first half was kind of a everything that could go wrong went wrong. I
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  have Florida State got, you know, just poor field position. You've got
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  a first year starting quarterback, first time starting quarterback, or a guy who
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  hasn't started four years. He was backed up, had some bad situations he
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  was facing. Florida's crowd was into it. They're trying to upset your season.
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  Their quarterback made a couple of big throws early, which I'm sure gave
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  him some confidence. So it just felt like everything was lining up for Florida
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  to pull off the upset. And I give official a lot of credit for
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  fighting through that, getting that score before halftime, and then really dominating the
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  whole second half. I was going to say they scored one touchdown and that
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  was a gift based on a phantom Has the acc offered an explanation for that
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  ridiculous call, not that we've heard yet. Mike Norvell is going to talk
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  to the media today about eleven thirty, so that'll be one of the questions
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  we asked because that was it was an all timer, and the way the
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  referees took Mike Norvell's berating on the sideline makes me think they know it was
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  a terrible call. But I guess once they throw the flag they felt like
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  they take it back. Yeah, but officiating cruise take back flags all the
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  time. I mean, they pick him up, they go, no,
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  you know, he didn't hit him unfairly, He didn't target him. He
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  didn't fall with his weight on him. I mean, and we've seen that
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  this season already. Yeah, there's really nothing you can There's no explanation.
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  I think I've even had some people ask if was it really on the hit?
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  Maybe it was somewhere else, but it was clearly on the hit.
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  It was thrown at That's where the flag was thrown. And I just think
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  that they whoever saw it thought he assumed he got hit in the head,
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  but they didn't even call that. They didn't call targeting. If they had
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  call targeting, they could have reviewed it and realized it wasn't. They just
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  called a just a general personal foul. It's tough to be critical of a
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  twelve and ohero team, but you and I both know they haven't played great
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  football for a while now. It's not just a Jordan Travis thing. They've
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  been off a little bit. I look at the play calling on Saturday night
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  and I just thought all night long, two things I texted you once out
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  of sheer frustration. Is Tate Rodimaker ever going to be allowed to run the
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  football because that was there all night and you have to let him do it
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  if he's going to play quarterback number two. It seemed as though they were
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  just trying to keep him from not losing the game versus letting him throw the
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  football. They were just so conservative, Yeah, they were, And I
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  think that that bit them because I think Florida expected that. And I think
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  Florida really, you know, they were very aggressive on the underneath passes,
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  hitches. They almost picked off a screen pass, which it can only happen
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  if you're if you're really being super aggressive. I thought Floridas, say,
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  could have hit some deeper shots, you know, and they the only ones
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  they took were very you know, kind of low percentage, just kind of
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  jump all type passes. So yeah, but I also think Mike Norvell thought
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  our defense is so good that Florida's not going to score a bunch of points
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  with their quarterback, and the running game is good enough that let's just let's
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  just win an ugly game. Like I think that was their mindset. But
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  let's not take any chances. We're not trying to win by third. We
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  just want to get the win and not let you know, look the one
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  knock on Tate Ronnamakers a quarterback, he obviously can throw it. The big
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  question is will he make the big mistake and they avoided that, so they
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  got out with no interceptions. So I think from that standpoint, that was
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  successful. As far as why he didn't run the ball, that also will
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  be a question we asked today. We're gonna speak with Mike Norvell and also
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  offensive coordinator Alex Atkins. Yeah, whether or not that's Tate just not wanting
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  to in the moment, or if that was a straight run calls. You
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  know, we don't know. What's hard to know is because of his first
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  start, how much was predetermined and how much flexibility he had at the line
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  of scrimmage. We tweet at WFLA FM. As mayor of Reelville, he
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  offers a state of the Nation every single day. This is the Morning Show
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  with Preston Scott. Eleven minutes after the hour hours ship fell with us from
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  warchan dot com our little post mortem on the Florida Florida State game. Just
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  a second longer. I offered Florida fans my commentary that when I watch Florida
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  right now, I see Willie Taggert, I see an undisciplined team. I
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  see a team that should be better than it is, and I think they
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  got to find themselves a new head coach. You know, talking to some
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  of the media that cover Florida and a couple of my friends who are fans,
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  they feel the same way. So to me, the biggest problem is
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  the dis the lack of discipline. I mean when Florida they went down there
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  two years ago, that Florida team was very chippy, try to start a
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  lot of fights, did a lot of shilly stuff. And I thought,
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  okay, well, they had an interim head coach at the time two years
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  hunder Billy Napier to do the things they did. I mean, they cost
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  themselves the game. The one kid spitting in a player's face, I mean,
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  first of all, it's terrible. Second of all, it was a
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  huge play that led to a Florida State scoring drive. Then also, you
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  know the player Tate slides four yards short of the first down. You not
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  have one guy make a mistake, give two guys dive it them. It's
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  just really an undisciplined team, and that's gonna be one of the big things.
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  Space and Billy Napier. All right, let's look ahead. We've got
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  Louisville. But I've been asked this question by a listener, and I'm going
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  to kind of paraphrase it and ask you, can this FSU team do anything
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  other than beat Louisville with some style points to make the Final four? Yeah?
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  I don't think they even have to do crazy style points. I mean,
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  I get that the talking heads are on ESPN or making a big story
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  about Florid State getting passed over by these one lost teams. But I think
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  the College Football Playoffs Committee, you know, I think they respect Florida State.
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  I think if Florida State wins the ACC, they're a Power five champion,
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  they're undefeated. As long as they don't look terrible in this game,
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  I think they've got a really good chance of getting in. I don't think
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  they'll be left out of the thirteen. I could be wrong, but I
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  believe they'll get in. I also believe heading into this game that we might
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  see because they've got the game in the rearview mirror against their arch rival Florida.
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  And I heard you and Corey talk about it in the post game.
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  If you had to one, if you had to beat Louisville and win the
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  ACC title or beat Florida, if you could only win one of those games,
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  I agree with you. I think Florida is the game you had to
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  win. But now that they've done that, I think they're poised to play
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  well if they take the change off Tate Rodmaker. They got to let him
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  play quarterback. I'm with you. I think they should go into this game
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  very loose and free, because look, there's nothing they really have nothing to
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  lose. At this point. You know, you're you want to get into
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  the College Fowl, the whole playoff. That's huge, that's awesome, But
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  the reality is, I mean, you're a point now where you're not you're
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  not protecting anything anything anymore. Like late in the season, you know you're
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  playing Miami, you're playing Florida. It felt like you're trying to protect this
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  perfect season. At this point now, I think you let it all hang
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  out. I think that they, you know, should feel free going into
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  this game, and I think you may see Floresta they play really well.
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  And I agree with you. I think if you let Tate Ronimaker play freely,
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  I think he'll make a ton of big plays. He might make a
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  mistake or two, but I think the offense would look a hole lot better.
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  Overall. There's one troubling thing I want to get your opinion on.
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  I feel as though I'm watching Keon Coleman dogg it on some plays on the
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  field. I see him not blocking downfield. Sometimes I see him kind of
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  giving half effort on some routes, and I'm a little alarmed by that.
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  Yeah, I guess that. You know, it came across on TV more
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  than it did live. I've had a couple of people ask me about that.
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  There was one play, you know, the one play where he didn't
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  block, which could have been a really nice run. Was was you know,
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  a problem some of the routes. It's hard to say, Like I
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  get, I've talked to the coaches about this on this staff before. There
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  are times that happens where receivers, you know, not just him, other
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  receivers what based on the coverage and they know where the quarterback's usually going to
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  go. They just know the ball is not coming to them, so they
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  may not give full effort when they're you know, they're running fifty snaps.
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  It's basically gassers. You know, they're running forty fifty yards every time.
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  Sometimes guys will take a playoff here there if they they just look at this
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  coverage and say, Okay, there's no way he's coming my way. But
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  you know, you get burned sometimes when you do that, so I'm sure
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  it'll be addressed this week. The problem is he's still an incredible talent hee
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  game ye, So it's not like you can just sit him. So that'll
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  be a challenge for the coaching staff. When it's all said and done,
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  what do you expect to see Saturday night up in Charlotte. I think Florida
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  State' is gonna win. I think the I think they're gonna play really well.
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  I think Louisville's a solid team, but I don't think they're a great
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  team, and I don't think they faced the same caliber competition they kind of.
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  You know, they have a couple of nice Wednesday did win an NC
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  State, which is impressive, but I think that was at a time where
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  NC State wasn't playing the way they are now. They beat Notre Dame in
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  a game where Notre Dame played poorly, so we'll see. I mean,
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  I just think Florid State's a little more battle tested and if they've got a
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  little bit more juice in the tank, which I think they do, I
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  think Florida State is gonna win the game. Did they come out of Florida
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  healthy? I think for the most part. Yeah. I think going into
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  it, there were a couple of guys we were questioning about, ERNARDA.
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  Green and Jalen de Loach. They both played great, and I think the
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  offensive line still wanting to see maybe if they can get Blessed Harris or Robert
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  Scott back in the line. They did not play. They were suited out
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  up. If they could get one of those guys back in, I think
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  it would be a big help. But yeah, overall, I think they
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  came out pretty well. Iras always, thank you. We'll talk again next
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  Monday. Appreciate it Forrest and thanks a lot. Thank you. Iras Chapelle
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  with us from war chant dot com. Sixteen now seventeen past the hour