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Rothschilds and the Third Temple myth | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: So so My name is Jerm. This is Jerm Warfare,
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Speaker 1: the battle of ideas. The conversation that you and I
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Speaker 1: are about to have is linked to previous conversations that
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Speaker 1: you and I have had. And it's very, very loaded
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Speaker 1: and very complicated. There's a lot of information and you
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Speaker 1: cover a huge amount of territory, particularly in your work.
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Speaker 1: Just for the sake of... catching up, just quickly give
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Speaker 1: me a brief overview of where we are and then
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Speaker 1: where you're going to take me.
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Speaker 2: Sure.
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Speaker 3: So we did two interviews earlier in the year. People
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Speaker 3: are welcome to look that up. And I was talking
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Speaker 3: about my recent book, The Cult of the Chosen Ones.
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Speaker 2: It was published late last year.
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Speaker 3: And in that book, I traced the rise of this
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Speaker 3: cult in the Middle Eastern region and how it influenced
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Speaker 3: all the three monotheistic Abrahamic religions, but especially Judaism, and
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Speaker 3: how it eventually kind of came up through the Middle
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Speaker 3: East through these two fake Jewish messiahs. One was called
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Speaker 3: Sabbatai Zevi. The other one was called Jacob Frank. And
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Speaker 3: then we get the cult of the Sabbatean Frankists from
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Speaker 3: the names of those two men. And then at the end,
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Speaker 3: Jacob Frank, he kept getting kicked out of all these
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Speaker 3: countries due to his satanic ways, but he joined forces
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Speaker 3: with the Rothschilds and another guy called Adam Weishaupt, the
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Speaker 3: founder of the original Order of the Illuminati. And they
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Speaker 3: said about world domination, they had the Satanism, they had
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Speaker 3: the secret societies, they had the money from Rothschild starting
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Speaker 3: his banking dynasty. And there's actually documents you can read
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Speaker 3: Adam Weishaupt's diary, where he's talking about how the Illuminati,
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Speaker 3: his newly founded order is gonna infiltrate the existing Freemasonic
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Speaker 3: secret society because it was already so well established. And
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Speaker 3: they had a plan to abolish, infiltrate and abolish the
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Speaker 3: monarchy and the aristocracy and the church. They wanted to
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Speaker 3: infiltrate all the centers of power and basically dominate the world.
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Speaker 3: And then the cult, you know, this cult has influenced
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Speaker 3: world affairs, revolutions especially, as well as assassinations, world wars throughout,
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Speaker 3: you know, since that time, since the late 1700s. And
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Speaker 3: I devote a lot of time in my book to
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Speaker 3: talking about World War, sorry, World War I, World War II,
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Speaker 3: the founding of Israel, the JFK assassination, 9-11, and I
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Speaker 3: finished with the Gaza genocide, because all of these things
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Speaker 3: show the fingerprint of this cult.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so basically what you're saying is that it's a chain,
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Speaker 1: and each link in the chain leads to the next,
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Speaker 1: and the temple would be the last link in the chain.
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Speaker 2: That's where they're going with it.
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Speaker 3: Israel has been overtaken by these messianic extremists and they're
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Speaker 3: absolutely crazy. They're out of their mind, but they believe
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Speaker 3: that not only was there a first temple and a
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Speaker 3: second temple for which there's no real solid archeological evidence,
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Speaker 3: but they believe that they need to build a third
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Speaker 3: temple and that when they build this, then their Messiah
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Speaker 3: is gonna come and it's gonna be a golden age
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Speaker 3: and all of this stuff. And they specifically wanna build
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Speaker 3: it on an existing very holy site, which is actually
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Speaker 3: the third holiest site in Islam, the Dome of the Rock,
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Speaker 3: but these Messianic Jewish guys, they call it the Temple Mount.
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Speaker 3: And it's not only in Jerusalem, but it's on this
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Speaker 3: very specific piece of land in Jerusalem. And I mean,
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Speaker 3: the whole thing is just so crazy that to think
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Speaker 3: that there's a religion, that there's some God that's telling them,
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Speaker 3: you have to own this specific piece of real estate
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Speaker 3: and do this specific thing on this piece of real estate,
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Speaker 3: build this thing. And then that's when like, everything's gonna
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Speaker 3: be good. I mean, it's, It's just so crazy, but
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Speaker 3: they can dress it up as religion. So much is
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Speaker 3: done in this world, so much control, so much evil
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Speaker 3: is done in the name of religion.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it starts with being chosen, which isn't a vibe, right?
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Speaker 1: It's an actual rank that they have somehow imposed on themselves.
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Speaker 1: But here's the weird thing. It's not Jews who are...
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Speaker 1: the major driving force it's actually evangelical christians which outnumber
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Speaker 1: um zionist jews or just jews in general.
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Speaker 3: Yes so that's that's part of the plan though so
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Speaker 3: what happened was when the rothschilds had already gained a
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Speaker 3: lot of power and they decided to overtake europe um
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Speaker 3: maya amschel rothschild the head of the dynasty sin had
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Speaker 3: his five sons to five different european cities to set
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Speaker 3: up central banks so they had a whole continental banking
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Speaker 3: networks set up before anyone else had such a thing.
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Speaker 3: Then they were sitting their sights on, as I was saying,
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Speaker 3: world domination. But they realized that if they wanted to
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Speaker 3: create a homeland in Palestine, which had actually been a
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Speaker 3: dream of Sabbatai Zevi, the first of these fake Jewish messiahs,
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Speaker 3: that they would need to get the help of some
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Speaker 3: big superpower countries. By then, the United States was a
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Speaker 3: young country, but there were already signs it was going
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Speaker 3: to become the next superpower. It was gaining momentum. It
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Speaker 3: was getting a lot of immigrants and its population was flourishing.
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Speaker 3: It was starting to kind of become more of a
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Speaker 3: power and assert itself more. So they hatched a very
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Speaker 3: long-term plan. I mean, the people behind this cult and
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Speaker 3: behind the New World Order, they think very long-term. So
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Speaker 3: they knew that they wanted to get a significant portion
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Speaker 3: of Americans, and it was predominantly a Christian country, Christians,
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Speaker 3: behind this project of theirs to set up a Jewish homeland.
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Speaker 3: And so the way they did that was that they
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Speaker 3: created their own version of the Bible, and then they
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Speaker 3: just subtly started editing the words and inserting words, taking
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Speaker 3: words out. And they did this through the Schofield Bible.
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Speaker 3: They hired this fraudster called Cyrus Schofield, and he basically
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Speaker 3: produced this new Bible for them. And then they were
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Speaker 3: able to slowly kind of put things in. And you
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Speaker 3: hear this politicians referring to this today, you know, Netanyahu
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Speaker 3: and his constant trips to visit Trump to tell him
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Speaker 3: what to do. He's always saying, hey, blessed are those
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Speaker 3: who bless Israel and cursed are those who curse Israel
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Speaker 3: and all this stuff that's not part of the original Bible.
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Speaker 3: And so this kind of thing, like all of this
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Speaker 3: movement has put into the heads of a lot of evangelicals, oh, like,
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Speaker 3: I have to support Israel to be a good Christian.
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Speaker 3: And I have to not only support some kind of
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Speaker 3: biblical concept of Israel, but like the modern political state
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Speaker 3: of Israel, which was only founded in 1948. And so
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Speaker 3: the whole thing has been this big long-term plan to
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Speaker 3: control the narrative, to get Christians on board, to get
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Speaker 3: America on board. Because Israel, after all, is a tiny
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Speaker 3: country of around 10 million people. But when it controls
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Speaker 3: America the way it does, it has that military and
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Speaker 3: economic might to impose its agenda.
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Speaker 1: Right, so when you are chosen, you can then have
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Speaker 1: a claim on land, which is what you've just pointed out.
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Speaker 1: And then law and history become pretty important. Noahide laws,
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Speaker 1: which people like Ben Shapiro have been saying, are absolutely fine.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, although I did notice he got a lot of
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Speaker 3: pushback when he said that recently at an event. And
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Speaker 3: I've been talking about the Noahide laws for a while.
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Speaker 3: it's a very sinister group of laws. I mean, if
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Speaker 3: you look at them on surface, on the surface, there's
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Speaker 3: seven laws and they're pretty similar to the 10 commandments
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Speaker 3: and they seem benign enough just at first glance. But
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Speaker 3: there are a couple of weird ones. You know, one
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Speaker 3: of them says you should not eat the flesh of
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Speaker 3: a living animal. And so I, you know, when I
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Speaker 3: read that, I have to think, well, who would do
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Speaker 3: that anyway? I mean, most people that eat meat, the
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Speaker 3: animal is dead. They're not going to just go up
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Speaker 3: to a live lamb or cow and start hacking at it.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's, It's like, why would you even need
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Speaker 3: to say that? But when you think about the satanic
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Speaker 3: kind of influence behind all these religions, then it maybe
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Speaker 3: starts to make a bit more sense. But probably the
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Speaker 3: most dangerous set of the seven Noahide laws is that
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Speaker 3: last one, because it talks about the establishment of world courts.
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Speaker 3: And again, they keep it really short so that there's
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Speaker 3: not too many questions people are asking, but I'm asking questions.
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Speaker 3: It's like, okay, world courts. So where are these world
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Speaker 3: courts gonna be located? Who's gonna be in charge of them?
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Speaker 3: Who are gonna be the judges? By what laws are
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Speaker 3: the judges going to be adjudicating cases? And, you know,
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Speaker 3: for me, the answer is always coming back to these
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Speaker 3: people that set all this up want to be in control.
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Speaker 2: They're control freaks. You know, they're power hungry.
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Speaker 3: Not only do they want to have some one world
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Speaker 3: religion that they're in control of, but anyone that's not
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Speaker 3: originally part of this religion, this is what the Noahide
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Speaker 3: laws were for. They were for like Gentiles or Goy
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Speaker 3: or non-Jews. They want to control them as well. And
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Speaker 3: of course, they think that they're going to be the
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Speaker 3: ones appointing the judges and that they're going to rule. And,
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Speaker 3: you know, there's different interpretations. I've seen different things written
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Speaker 3: about what happens if you don't obey these laws. And
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Speaker 3: in some cases, it says that it's punishable by death. Now,
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Speaker 3: of course, they're gonna deny that and they're not gonna
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Speaker 3: come out and say that, but I mean, looking at
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Speaker 3: some of the so-called holy books of Judaism, especially the Talmud,
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Speaker 3: it is sickening that the stuff that's in the so-called
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Speaker 3: holy book. I mean, the Talmud is openly advocating pedophilia
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Speaker 3: and talking about how there's all these different sets of
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Speaker 3: laws for a Jewish man who commits pedophilia, where there's
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Speaker 3: basically no consequence at all versus someone else. And it
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Speaker 3: goes on and on and on, splitting all these hairs
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Speaker 3: about how old the girl has to be and whether
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Speaker 3: it's permissible and all this stuff. And I mean, this
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Speaker 3: is a so-called holy book, one of the holy books.
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Speaker 3: And same with the Noahide laws. I mean, we really
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Speaker 3: need to be very skeptical and ask a lot of
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Speaker 3: questions about what they're planning with all of this.
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Speaker 1: All right, so just to make sure I'm following at
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Speaker 1: this point, you were talking about the 1600s, 1700s, you
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Speaker 1: had two guys who declared themselves to be the Messiah.
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Speaker 1: Both of them converted to another religion to survive. Both
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Speaker 1: taught that breaking the rules was actually holy.
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Speaker 2: What was the statement? Something about sin. Yeah, salvation through sin. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: And so then their followers learned to look like everyone
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Speaker 1: else while believing something else. In other words, the whole
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Speaker 1: thing is deceptive, right? And the point here is that
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Speaker 1: Zionism is not Judaism. It's a political project. Exactly.
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Speaker 3: That's a really important point for people that are new
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Speaker 3: to all this. And what the people that run the
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Speaker 3: Zionist regime, the leaders of Israel, and even the Jews
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Speaker 3: that are on board with this outside of Israel, they
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Speaker 3: constantly try to get people to equate that in their
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Speaker 3: mind because their whole kind of narrative depends upon that.
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Speaker 3: Because then they can bring all the innocent Jews into
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Speaker 3: this that have nothing to do with this and that
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Speaker 3: are not power hungry and don't support this at all.
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Speaker 3: And then they can hide behind the shield of antisemitism.
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Speaker 3: But once that whole connection is broken and people realize, well,
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Speaker 3: wait a minute, you know, Zionism is about a political state.
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Speaker 3: It's not about a religion. And it's about a political
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Speaker 3: state that is incredibly evil and, you know, has committed
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Speaker 3: theft and rape and murder and all sorts of stuff
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Speaker 3: right from its start and just committed this genocide and
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Speaker 3: is still killing Gazans in Palestine as we speak. You know,
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Speaker 3: then they can start to kind of realize, wait a minute,
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Speaker 3: there's actually– like all these different groups here. And there's
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Speaker 3: a number of Jewish groups, like True Torah Jews or
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Speaker 3: Nudra Ikata or a lot of Jews that that's what
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Speaker 3: they do. They come out and say, hey, we want
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Speaker 3: to live in peace with Arabs. We have nothing to
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Speaker 3: do with Zionism. Netanyahu does not represent us. Israel does
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Speaker 3: not represent us. And this is their message. And they're
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Speaker 3: in New York. They're saying this around the world and
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Speaker 3: saying this. And, you know, like the information is starting
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Speaker 3: to get out of people starting to wake up to this.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean, as you're pointing out, the bankers, a.k.a. Rothschilds,
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Speaker 1: got the cult into its own quote-unquote homeland in 1947.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Rothschilds, they picked up on this messianic thing
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Speaker 3: that was probably like a remnant of early Judaism, this
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Speaker 3: desire to have a homeland. Sabbatai Zevi was talking about it,
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Speaker 3: and they... actually had the power then to make it happen.
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Speaker 3: And so what they were doing in the 1800s, as
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Speaker 3: well as like buying up, you know, banks and media,
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Speaker 3: they actually bought the Oxford University Press and it was
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Speaker 3: the one that published the Schofield Bible. So they were
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Speaker 3: doing all that. That was part of their plan to
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Speaker 3: control perception and get the evangelicals on board. But they
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Speaker 3: were also straight out colonizing Palestine. And Palestine at that
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Speaker 3: point was under the control of the Ottoman Empire. But
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Speaker 3: if you research the history of it, you'll see that
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Speaker 3: all these Jews were starting to colonize it and they
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Speaker 3: were starting to buy land. And there was difficulties because
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Speaker 3: the Ottoman Empire was like, wait a minute, we're not
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Speaker 3: you know, I don't, it's okay if there's a few
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Speaker 3: people that move in, but we're not having whole Jewish
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Speaker 3: communities come in and buy all this land. So they
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Speaker 3: forbade it. So then they tried to get around that.
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Speaker 3: They tried to buy it in other people's name. They
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Speaker 3: tried to, uh, get the laws changed. And they, like
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Speaker 3: there was this constant push that was going on. Um,
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Speaker 3: to do this, right? And so they kind of got some,
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Speaker 3: they made some progress towards that, but they realized that
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Speaker 3: if they really wanted to do this, they would need
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Speaker 3: much bigger forces to shape the region. And one of
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Speaker 3: their forces was to create a revolution itself in the
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Speaker 3: Ottoman Empire, as well as to create world wars. So
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Speaker 3: they were behind the rise of the Young Turks. The
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Speaker 3: Young Turks were another one of these revolutionary movements that
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Speaker 3: ended up seizing power. And they brought an end to
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Speaker 3: the Ottoman Empire that had been around for hundreds of years.
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Speaker 3: And then a whole new kind of modern secular country
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Speaker 3: of Turkey got created. But the Young Turks were again
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Speaker 3: led by a crypto Jew. And this is coming back
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Speaker 3: to what you were just saying there. the Crypto-Jews or
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Speaker 3: the Dönme as they were called, because Dönme is from
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Speaker 3: a Turkish word meaning to turn, they were the ones
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Speaker 3: that pretended they were something on the outside, but really
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Speaker 3: something else underneath. And the modus operandi was infiltration. So
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Speaker 3: the leader of a Masonic lodge in Thessaloniki ended up becoming,
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Speaker 3: pushing forward the Young Turks movement. They overthrew the Ottoman Empire,
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Speaker 3: and then surprise, surprise, they were very friendly to the
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Speaker 3: Rothschilds' aims of colonizing Palestine. And this was even before
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Speaker 3: everything that happened with World War I and World War II.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so earlier we mentioned that the temple is the
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Speaker 1: last link in the chain. But correct me if I'm wrong, right?
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Speaker 1: Can it not be archaeologically argued that if there were
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Speaker 1: a temple that existed there. It wasn't on the site.
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Speaker 1: It was somewhere else, which makes this narrative even more dangerous.
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Speaker 3: Well, personally, from what I've seen, I don't believe there
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Speaker 3: even was a first or a second temple because so
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Speaker 3: much of Jewish history has been falsified. What I went
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Speaker 3: back and did in the first chapter of my book
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Speaker 3: was I looked at all of these founding Jewish myths.
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Speaker 3: You know, you have Abraham. You have Moses, you have Noah.
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Speaker 3: But when we look at it closely, there's actually no
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Speaker 3: archaeological evidence for any of these characters. And it's much,
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Speaker 3: much more likely that these characters were like an archetype.
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Speaker 2: They were invented. Especially when you look at the story
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Speaker 2: of St. Moses, right?
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Speaker 3: We're told that he was abandoned as a baby and
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Speaker 3: he was put in a basket and the basket flowed
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Speaker 3: down and he was caught among the reeds and somehow
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Speaker 3: someone rescued him. But that's exactly the same story that
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Speaker 3: you find in other previous stories. you know, civilizations from
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Speaker 3: the Middle East, from Mesopotamia region and same story. And
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Speaker 3: it happens again and again when they do this. And
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Speaker 3: I quote Russell Gemerkin who has passed away now, but
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Speaker 3: he was a scholar and he spent a lot of
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Speaker 3: his life delving into this stuff. And one of his
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Speaker 3: book is so full of footnotes, it's incredible, but he
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Speaker 3: goes through and he compares the so-called five books of
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Speaker 3: the Torah, the Jewish Bible, with the ancient Greeks and
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Speaker 3: all the writings that they produced, especially Plato's laws, that
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Speaker 3: Plato wrote more towards the end of his life. And
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Speaker 3: he found that there are exact correlations between a lot
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Speaker 3: of the things that the Jews came up with, like
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Speaker 3: with their laws and the Platonic Greek laws. And then
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Speaker 3: when he did it, based on his expert opinion, he said,
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Speaker 3: there's no way that the Jewish ones came first. The
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Speaker 3: Greek ones were first and the Jewish ones were a copy.
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Speaker 3: And see, later Jews tried to claim, oh, you know,
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Speaker 3: the Greeks copied us. We were around first and then
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Speaker 3: they copied us. But this is the same lie that
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Speaker 3: they've been saying all the time. You know, they're always
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Speaker 3: saying that we used to live, this was our land.
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Speaker 3: We've been here the whole time. We're the original Semites.
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Speaker 2: But it's just lies.
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Speaker 3: Like when you really look at it, it all falls apart,
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Speaker 3: you know. And whether they're lying about being in that
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Speaker 3: area when they're actually from Caesarea, which was an 8th
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Speaker 3: century to 13th century area, white Caucasian part of Russia,
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Speaker 3: part of like Ukraine, that area. Not really in the
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Speaker 3: Middle East, actually, much more in Russia or Central Asia.
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Speaker 3: They're lying about that. All these early Israeli prime ministers
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Speaker 3: and leaders, almost all of them are from Eastern Europe,
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Speaker 3: whether it's from Belarus or Ukraine or Russia or Poland.
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Speaker 3: I mean, pretty much they're all there. Benjamin Netanyahu's real
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Speaker 3: name is Benjamin Milakowski. He's from Poland. His father's from Poland.
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Speaker 3: I mean, they're lying about that. They're lying about their history.
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Speaker 3: Their history is being falsified. Someone got together at Alexandria
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Speaker 3: around 270 and gave the Jews their history.
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Speaker 2: To kind of unify them.
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Speaker 3: Kind of provide like a founding document, a founding group
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Speaker 3: of books that became their Bible and their holy book.
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Speaker 3: But all of this was plagiarized and ripped off. So
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Speaker 3: it's the same with the archeological findings. There's no real
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Speaker 3: evidence of any temples. And I did a video like
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Speaker 3: a year or two ago talking about how Israel really
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Speaker 3: wages war.
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Speaker 2: With its archeologists.
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Speaker 3: What it does when it goes into all its neighboring
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Speaker 3: countries and it starts like you know, sending in its
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Speaker 3: military and conquering them and stealing the land. It's doing
17:43
Speaker 3: this to Syria with the Golan Heights, doing it to Lebanon,
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Speaker 3: of course, Palestine. Then after it sends in all its
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Speaker 3: tanks and soldiers, it sends in its archaeologists. And lo
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Speaker 3: and behold, the archaeologists suddenly find something in the ground
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Speaker 3: and they're like, look, this is an old Jewish village. See,
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Speaker 3: we really were here 3,000 years ago. And then they
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Speaker 3: start renaming all the Arab villages and giving them Jewish names.
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Speaker 3: And it's It's just so blatant. It's what George Orwell
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Speaker 3: was talking about. It's the rewriting of history. They delete
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Speaker 3: anything inconvenient and they just lie and produce their own
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Speaker 3: narrative and say, this is what really happened. And they
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Speaker 3: try to destroy any kind of archaeology or any evidence
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Speaker 3: that would disprove it and then falsify their own ones
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Speaker 3: and try to support it with like fake evidence.
18:25
Speaker 1: Which probably relates to why Israel tightly controls DNA or
18:31
Speaker 1: genetic testing.
18:34
Speaker 3: And that's another part of the deception because there is
18:37
Speaker 3: no Jewish DNA. I was talking about this and I
18:40
Speaker 3: was quoting this in my book. There's a lot of
18:41
Speaker 3: people that have looked closely at this. We've got Shlomo Sand,
18:45
Speaker 3: an Israeli professor at Tel Aviv. We've got the guy
18:48
Speaker 3: that wrote the original amazing book, The 13th Tribe, Arthur Kersler.
18:51
Speaker 2: He also looked closely at this issue.
18:54
Speaker 1: By the way, sorry for jumping in, but he and
18:56
Speaker 1: his wife just coincidentally died.
18:59
Speaker 2: Oh, really? Okay. Sort of together.
19:00
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:03
Speaker 3: He wrote the amazing book, and I think it was
19:05
Speaker 3: 73 or sometime in the 70s, the 13th tribe. And
19:07
Speaker 3: then that's what introduced this whole Khazarian hypothesis that the
19:12
Speaker 3: Khazars eventually, once the empire collapsed, they were a very
19:16
Speaker 3: warlike tribe. They inhabited that area in.
19:18
Speaker 2: The Caucasus, as we said.
19:21
Speaker 3: They were forced early on to make a very difficult
19:23
Speaker 3: decision because they had a lot of Muslim countries to
19:27
Speaker 3: their south. And on their Western flank, they had a
19:29
Speaker 3: lot of Christian armies that had gone all the way
19:31
Speaker 3: to Constantinople and Turkey. They were worried about being overrun
19:34
Speaker 3: by either the Christians or the Muslims. And so they
19:37
Speaker 3: did this mass conversion to Judaism early on as kind
19:40
Speaker 3: of a political move because they wanted to kind of
19:43
Speaker 3: keep the peace and not really have to be ruled
19:45
Speaker 3: by either of those big religions.
19:48
Speaker 2: And that kind of kept them. at bay.
19:51
Speaker 3: And then the empire ended up dissolving in around 1300
19:55
Speaker 3: or so, but they migrated westward. And that's why so
19:58
Speaker 3: many of these so-called Jews, so-called Semites are actually from
20:01
Speaker 3: all these countries, from Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, Poland, Lithuania, because
20:06
Speaker 3: a lot of them ended up settling there and becoming
20:08
Speaker 3: the Ashkenazi Jews. Also, you know, they made their way
20:12
Speaker 3: to Germany. But even though it seems like what I'm
20:17
Speaker 3: saying it can't be because there's been so much propaganda
20:20
Speaker 3: on this topic. Really, when you look at the evidence,
20:23
Speaker 3: there is no Jewish DNA. And there are a lot
20:25
Speaker 3: of rabbis that still talk about this. There's a rabbi
20:28
Speaker 3: called Shapiro. He talks about how Judaism has always been
20:36
Speaker 3: a religious community. If you were a Jew, it was
20:38
Speaker 3: because you were practicing the religion of Judaism. There is
20:40
Speaker 3: no Jewish race and there's certainly no Jewish nation. This
20:43
Speaker 3: whole thing of confusing Jewish identity and trying to make
20:47
Speaker 3: Jews into a race or a nation has been another
20:49
Speaker 3: way that they've manipulated people's perception. So they've tried to
20:53
Speaker 3: use the whole nation thing to try to justify the
20:57
Speaker 3: fact that they stole Palestine and got their own country
20:59
Speaker 3: in 1948. And they've tried to use the racial part
21:01
Speaker 3: of it, inventing that to try to somehow claim they
21:04
Speaker 3: were Semites or they were from there originally.
21:06
Speaker 2: And it's been a great trick. And another way that.
21:08
Speaker 3: They use this whole Jews are a race kind of
21:11
Speaker 3: false narrative is that they're trying to get laws passed
21:14
Speaker 3: right now as we speak in the US to declare
21:17
Speaker 3: any kind of anti-Zionism or anti-Semitism as actually racial in basis.
21:24
Speaker 3: And therefore it gets more of a protection or there's
21:26
Speaker 3: harsher laws for people to do it. So then if
21:28
Speaker 3: you just criticize Israel and say, hey, Israel is carrying
21:30
Speaker 3: out a genocide, then they're going to try and spin
21:32
Speaker 3: that and go, oh, well, you're really basically like slighting
21:36
Speaker 3: us Jews as a race and that's racist. And we're
21:39
Speaker 3: a protected class under like the 1964 Civil Rights Act
21:43
Speaker 3: by Lyndon Johnson. And so that's like a felony or,
21:46
Speaker 3: you know, that carries a bigger penalty than if you
21:48
Speaker 3: just criticized a nation. You know, so this whole thing
21:51
Speaker 3: is such a scheme when you really dig down deep
21:54
Speaker 3: into it.
21:55
Speaker 1: Yaakov Shapiro was on my podcast about a month and
21:57
Speaker 1: a half ago.
21:58
Speaker 2: Oh, excellent.
21:59
Speaker 3: I'm really glad you had him on. Yeah, he's been
22:01
Speaker 3: one of these great, great men. You know, there are
22:02
Speaker 3: a lot of great Jews around the world who don't
22:05
Speaker 3: buy Zionism and who just give us the real facts
22:08
Speaker 3: about the history of Judaism, and it's so important.
22:11
Speaker 1: I'd recommend you and everybody else listens to that conversation.
22:15
Speaker 1: I asked him a grand total of one question, and
22:18
Speaker 1: that was the entire podcast.
22:22
Speaker 3: He's a wealth of knowledge. I can see. You just
22:26
Speaker 3: asked one question. That was enough for him to bring
22:28
Speaker 3: out all the knowledge.
22:30
Speaker 1: Yeah.
22:30
Speaker 2: Okay.
22:30
Speaker 1: So, Makia, so the temple is pivotal to this whole story.
22:36
Speaker 1: It's pivotal to the cult, to the narrative, the Dome
22:40
Speaker 1: of the Rock. But now tell me something. Why did Israel,
22:45
Speaker 1: after it captured it in 1967, give it back to
22:46
Speaker 1: Muslim authorities?
22:52
Speaker 2: That's a really good question. I'm not sure if I
22:54
Speaker 2: can answer that.
22:55
Speaker 3: I can say that Israel wasn't as strong in 67
22:58
Speaker 3: as they are now. By then, certain elements within Israel,
23:04
Speaker 3: especially the prime minister that resigned, Ben-Gurion, Mossad, and other elements,
23:09
Speaker 3: they were the ones, they had plotted JFK's assassination and
23:12
Speaker 3: carried that out. And then they had a very extremely
23:15
Speaker 3: pro-Zionist president in the White House in the name of
23:18
Speaker 3: Lyndon Johnson. So they had, they were beginning to start
23:23
Speaker 3: to take control of American foreign policy and turn it
23:26
Speaker 3: in their direction. Johnson turned a blind eye to the
23:29
Speaker 3: Israeli nuclear program. He started selling American weapons to them.
23:33
Speaker 3: And this is when Israel started getting America to agree
23:35
Speaker 3: that Israel would always have a QME, quantitative military edge,
23:39
Speaker 3: over all of its Arab neighbors. So they'd already started
23:42
Speaker 3: kind of gaining ascendancy by then. they weren't quite as powerful.
23:47
Speaker 3: They were still a very small nation. And back then
23:49
Speaker 3: we had Egypt and Syria were at one point part
23:53
Speaker 3: of one whole Arab nation. So they were really surrounded
23:55
Speaker 3: by a lot of Arabs. And if the Arab countries
23:57
Speaker 3: had ever all coordinated and decided to attack Israel all
24:00
Speaker 3: at once, it probably would have been over for Israel.
24:03
Speaker 3: That's what they were always scared of. That's why they
24:04
Speaker 3: said they wanted nuclear weapons, one of the reasons. But
24:07
Speaker 3: I think there was still just a lot of pressure
24:09
Speaker 3: on them from I mean, obviously from the Middle East,
24:12
Speaker 3: but from other major superpowers who were like, you can't
24:14
Speaker 3: just do this. Like, you've got to go back to it.
24:16
Speaker 3: So I don't think they were quite as out of
24:19
Speaker 3: control as they are now. I mean, now they've just
24:22
Speaker 3: accelerated their domination, especially through their, like, cybercrime, their, like, spying,
24:27
Speaker 3: their surveillance, their control of all the Western countries. I mean,
24:30
Speaker 3: their control of Russia, too, you know, through Haber-Lubavitch. I mean,
24:33
Speaker 3: it's insane the amount of control they have over all
24:35
Speaker 3: the other countries in the world. So they're more brazen
24:37
Speaker 3: about it.
24:38
Speaker 1: So the Temple Mount stays stuck in its stalemate, but
24:42
Speaker 1: the machinery gets built around it anyway. Tell me a
24:46
Speaker 1: little bit more about the Temple Institute.
24:51
Speaker 3: I don't know so much. Are you referring to a
24:54
Speaker 3: specific company there?
24:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, the guys who are building all the furniture, for example,
24:59
Speaker 1: for the Third Temple for the last few decades.
25:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have seen videos and like 3D makeups of
25:05
Speaker 3: what they're doing. I mean, You know, it's this religious obsession,
25:11
Speaker 3: but there's a lot more to it under that because
25:13
Speaker 3: it's not just simply about God. But it's not just
25:16
Speaker 3: building a building. That's what the people have to understand.
25:19
Speaker 3: What's really kind of lying under all this is they
25:22
Speaker 3: want to control the world. Even Ben-Gurion said it in
25:25
Speaker 3: some of his last days alive. He's like, we want
25:27
Speaker 3: to have Jerusalem, as it was prophesied by Isaiah, to
25:31
Speaker 3: be the seat of.
25:32
Speaker 2: The whole world. That's why we're going to have world
25:33
Speaker 2: government and world courts. So they've been dreaming about this.
25:36
Speaker 3: But what's really come to the fore, I would say,
25:39
Speaker 3: ever since maybe like the 1980s, that's when Israel realized, okay,
25:43
Speaker 3: we're small, no matter how many Jews we get to
25:46
Speaker 3: immigrate here, we're still gonna have all these Arab countries
25:48
Speaker 3: around us. What we have to do is we have
25:50
Speaker 3: to become a leader in like the cyber domain. We
25:53
Speaker 3: have to basically have excellent intelligence and spying and surveillance
25:57
Speaker 3: and control of like computers and technology. And then we're
26:00
Speaker 3: gonna rule the world. And so they invested a lot
26:03
Speaker 3: of money and time and energy into that in the 80s.
26:05
Speaker 3: And how it really started was this whole Promise software thing.
26:08
Speaker 3: This is a huge part of the whole story. It's
26:11
Speaker 3: when they got their hands on the Promise software, which
26:13
Speaker 3: was originally a piece of software that was just like
26:16
Speaker 3: a case management record. And it was made by Inslaw,
26:20
Speaker 3: an American company. But it kind of, you know, the
26:23
Speaker 3: US government realized how good it was and started actually
26:25
Speaker 3: ripping off Inslaw. And there was a whole like, Lots
26:29
Speaker 3: of cases about that that went on in the US,
26:31
Speaker 3: but it got given to the intelligence agencies and then
26:34
Speaker 3: it ended up in the hands of Israeli intelligence and
26:36
Speaker 3: it deliberately had back doors built into it. And then
26:39
Speaker 3: Israel started selling it through Robert Maxwell, father of Ghilaym Maxwell.
26:42
Speaker 3: And this is where, you know, Epstein comes into the
26:44
Speaker 3: whole story. Robert Maxwell was a Mossad spy with a
26:47
Speaker 3: billionaire publishing company, and he started pushing this promise software.
26:51
Speaker 3: They started selling it to all these different governments. And then,
26:53
Speaker 3: of course, Israel started having a back door and being
26:55
Speaker 3: able to spy on all these different governments. And they
26:57
Speaker 3: made sure that Promise Software got into all aspects, all
27:00
Speaker 3: different agencies of the US government, including NORAD and the FAA,
27:05
Speaker 3: which was super important. This is how they pulled off 9-11.
27:07
Speaker 3: They were able to have control of the software of
27:10
Speaker 3: these key companies and literally control what the agents were
27:13
Speaker 3: seeing on their screens during the whole war games in 9-11.
27:17
Speaker 3: It's only gotten worse since then. Barely a month or
27:21
Speaker 3: two goes by, Jerem, when you do not hear some
27:23
Speaker 3: story about, oh, here's another Israeli spying ring or surveillance
27:27
Speaker 3: ring that got busted. I just did a story on
27:29
Speaker 3: this just a few weeks ago. We had this, what's
27:31
Speaker 3: called adfection. where this Citizens Lab organization in Toronto, which
27:39
Speaker 3: looks into this kind of stuff, it tries to analyze
27:42
Speaker 3: malware and spyware and see who's developing it, how it's
27:45
Speaker 3: infecting computers, all of this. They found that this Israeli company,
27:50
Speaker 3: it's always an Israeli company, had made all this spyware, malware,
27:54
Speaker 3: and that it had used a front end, company that
27:56
Speaker 3: was basically serving ads to different people, different devices. And
28:01
Speaker 3: you would get an ad on your phone, but it
28:03
Speaker 3: was what was called zero click, which means you don't
28:05
Speaker 3: have to do anything. You do not have to even
28:08
Speaker 3: tap on the screen or click anything. Literally just by
28:11
Speaker 3: the ad appearing on your phone, it can be enough
28:13
Speaker 3: to infect it. So, I mean, zero clicks like horrible
28:16
Speaker 3: for the end user, but it's great if you're an
28:18
Speaker 3: intelligence agency. And so they spread this stuff out to
28:22
Speaker 3: like hundreds of thousands of devices. And then it would
28:25
Speaker 3: pick up, it would record everything on your screen, all
28:27
Speaker 3: your emails, all your texts, all your phone calls. And
28:30
Speaker 3: then it would deliberately encrypt all that and send it
28:34
Speaker 3: out just in small packets so it wasn't detected. in
28:38
Speaker 3: an encrypted way. Very, like incredibly cunning. And they're doing
28:42
Speaker 3: this stuff all the time. You know, just because this
28:44
Speaker 3: one got caught, there's probably hundreds others that haven't got caught.
28:46
Speaker 2: It's like a cockroach.
28:47
Speaker 3: You know, you flick on the light in your room,
28:49
Speaker 3: you see a cockroach. Okay, that means there's a hundred
28:51
Speaker 3: more like in your walls and ceilings that aren't like
28:54
Speaker 3: visible right now.
28:56
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, and I don't know if you know
29:00
Speaker 1: the answer, and I don't even know if this is
29:02
Speaker 1: an appropriate question, but you're talking about technology now and
29:06
Speaker 1: software and AI. And could there be a plot twist
29:10
Speaker 1: with this whole temple story? Does it need to be physical?
29:14
Speaker 1: What if it is digital or AI? That's actually where
29:18
Speaker 1: I was going with it, yeah.
29:20
Speaker 3: I think this third temple, there has been a number
29:23
Speaker 3: of articles and people, you know, rabbis involved with Chabad Lubavitch,
29:27
Speaker 3: which is a key part of Judaism now, a very,
29:31
Speaker 3: very influential worldwide Jewish organization, has headquarters in Brooklyn, but
29:36
Speaker 3: it also controls There was a Russian rabbi that said,
29:40
Speaker 3: Judaism is 99% Harvard Lubavitch in Russia. So it controls
29:43
Speaker 3: Judaism in Russia and the U.S. And you've got key
29:47
Speaker 3: people like Jared Kushner and, you know, you have Trump
29:50
Speaker 3: visiting the grave of the rabbi, the so-called leader rabbi,
29:55
Speaker 3: Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, who was, you know, Some people even
29:59
Speaker 3: think he was the Messiah, but he was a very
30:01
Speaker 3: charismatic leader of Harvard Lubavitch for a while. So anyway,
30:04
Speaker 3: if you go to Harvard Lubavitch's website, you can find
30:07
Speaker 3: articles on there that talk about how the AI Messiah
30:11
Speaker 3: is coming and they're gonna control AI and AI is
30:14
Speaker 3: gonna be housed in their third temple and it's going
30:16
Speaker 3: to be the golden age and so suddenly we've got
30:18
Speaker 3: these merging it's really weird we've got the merging of
30:21
Speaker 3: this whole messianic third temple thing with the coming of
30:24
Speaker 3: ai and a technocracy and they're trying to basically center
30:27
Speaker 3: it all.
30:27
Speaker 2: Together and bring it all together.
30:31
Speaker 1: That's really interesting because that is a plot twist uh
30:36
Speaker 1: because people overlook that they keep looking at the physical.
30:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a long time ago, 70s, 80s, 90s,
30:44
Speaker 3: Israel realized if we control the cyber domain, we'll control
30:48
Speaker 3: the world. Okay, so what does it mean to control
30:49
Speaker 3: the cyber domain? Well, it means to basically be able
30:52
Speaker 3: to hack into any computer that they want to, get
30:55
Speaker 3: any information that they want to that's digital. and then
30:58
Speaker 3: also now that we're basically living in the age of
31:00
Speaker 3: ai it's to control ai because ai is going to
31:03
Speaker 3: have such a dominant role in our lives it has
31:06
Speaker 3: a dominant role in information already when you go to
31:09
Speaker 3: google which is still what a lot of people use
31:11
Speaker 3: to search the web and you type in a term
31:14
Speaker 3: or a phrase well you're going to have the ai
31:16
Speaker 3: giving you the first answer they want you to try
31:18
Speaker 3: to like corral you into that and and then um
31:22
Speaker 3: AI is starting to be used for all these other jobs.
31:26
Speaker 3: People are figuring out now, it's been a few years,
31:28
Speaker 3: how can I use AI to make my job more efficient?
31:30
Speaker 3: So it's been used in all these jobs. But if
31:32
Speaker 3: they control the source code of AI, then they can
31:35
Speaker 3: control now massive amounts of what people perceive. And there's
31:40
Speaker 3: already people talking about this. I mean, it's not that
31:42
Speaker 3: difficult to find information where you see these Zionist agents
31:45
Speaker 3: talking about how, well, we've got control of OpenAI, Sam Altman,
31:50
Speaker 3: Elon Musk, and Grok. you know, there's Anthropic, we're still
31:54
Speaker 3: working on that one, and they're openly talking about this.
31:58
Speaker 3: They want to control the world through the control of
32:00
Speaker 3: AI and software and the cyber domain.
32:05
Speaker 1: So you have the evangelicals pushing it, you have Chabad
32:09
Speaker 1: pushing it, which, for those that don't know, is the
32:13
Speaker 1: Hasidic Jews, if I'm correct.
32:15
Speaker 2: It's one of the sects, yeah, but I mean.
32:18
Speaker 3: There's probably Hasidic sects which are totally benign and they
32:22
Speaker 3: don't support Zionism or Israel and they're not interested in power.
32:25
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of different sects within Judaism. But yes,
32:30
Speaker 3: the Chabad Lubavitch, they've shown that they're very power hungry
32:34
Speaker 3: and they're all about control and infiltration.
32:38
Speaker 1: Okay, so you have basically the technocratic control grid in Israel.
32:44
Speaker 1: the line of sight, because you have the messianic era,
32:47
Speaker 1: which gets run like a system, right? You have digital tithes,
32:53
Speaker 1: which would be connected to digital ID, as well as
32:57
Speaker 1: all sorts of other kind of penalties. So you have
33:00
Speaker 1: like this algorithm that's that's tracking merit. And then you
33:06
Speaker 1: have basically this convergence of religion and technocracy.
33:11
Speaker 2: Exactly. That's what's that's what's coming.
33:14
Speaker 3: So it's better that we're aware of this, we're talking
33:16
Speaker 3: about it, and we see what we can do about
33:18
Speaker 3: it now that we know what their plans are.
33:21
Speaker 1: This temple is central to it, yet so many people
33:25
Speaker 1: seem to miss it. I mean, you have millions and
33:27
Speaker 1: millions and millions of people around the world all cheerleading
33:32
Speaker 1: this on without even knowing.
33:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think one of the ways that
33:37
Speaker 3: this whole conspiracy operates is by the hijacking of mass consciousness.
33:42
Speaker 3: And often they do that by hijacking our subconscious. And
33:46
Speaker 3: there was a famous Chinese author who said that the
33:48
Speaker 3: world is ruled by symbols, not rules or laws, because
33:52
Speaker 3: symbols bypass the conscious filter and go straight into the subconscious.
33:55
Speaker 3: So that's why we've had these mystery schools, secret societies
33:58
Speaker 3: being so obsessed with their symbolism. And then that kind
34:01
Speaker 3: of filtered out to society and it became all these
34:03
Speaker 3: corporate logos and I mean, if you look at all
34:06
Speaker 3: the different corporate logos, I mean, so many of them
34:08
Speaker 3: are the all-seeing eye or they're a pyramid or they're
34:11
Speaker 3: a shape of Saturn in some way or another, or
34:13
Speaker 3: they're the rising sun.
34:15
Speaker 2: You know, things like this.
34:17
Speaker 3: And so what they want to do is they want
34:19
Speaker 3: to use their symbolisms and their symbolism and their hidden
34:22
Speaker 3: knowledge to hijack our subconscious. And they'd help basically get
34:27
Speaker 3: us to create, to manifest what they want without really
34:30
Speaker 3: realizing it. And they do this through, you know, as
34:33
Speaker 3: well through media and films and predictive programming and all
34:37
Speaker 3: this stuff. So I think that's part of what's going on.
34:40
Speaker 3: People don't really realize what even that the third temple
34:43
Speaker 3: really represents and what this evil plan is. They just
34:45
Speaker 3: think it's probably something innocuous or innocent without realizing, oh,
34:50
Speaker 3: wait a minute, this could be representative of like the
34:52
Speaker 3: whole AI technocracy control system.
34:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, going back to Christian Zionists, I mean,
35:00
Speaker 1: they're funding all of this, right? And I've had conversations
35:03
Speaker 1: over the years with numerous Christian Zionists and I've asked
35:07
Speaker 1: them to show me in the Bible where this stuff is.
35:12
Speaker 1: And they can't, but they just say, oh, you're being
35:16
Speaker 1: blasphemous or whatever, you know, and they get insulting. They
35:20
Speaker 1: can't actually show me where this belief comes from.
35:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's the thing about religion. I mean, religion,
35:29
Speaker 3: there's so much of it that is based on faith.
35:33
Speaker 3: Faith is elevated. It's like, oh, no, you shouldn't have evidence.
35:37
Speaker 3: It's good to have faith. That shows that you believe
35:39
Speaker 3: without even having the rational evidence in front of you.
35:42
Speaker 3: And that's the spin, at least in a lot of Christianity, is, well,
35:45
Speaker 3: that's a good thing. You're a man of faith. You're
35:48
Speaker 3: a person of faith, like all of this. But really,
35:51
Speaker 3: faith and hope are kind of tricky emotions sometimes because... Yeah,
35:56
Speaker 3: I'm sure there is a time in life to have
35:58
Speaker 3: faith and hope, but if that is your driving force,
36:00
Speaker 3: you're always in a state of hope or faith. What
36:03
Speaker 3: about being in a state of knowledge? What about being
36:05
Speaker 3: in a state of wisdom? you know, like experiencing something
36:10
Speaker 3: for yourself and knowing it's true. What about that as
36:12
Speaker 3: a value? And I don't see that being emphasized in religion.
36:15
Speaker 3: And so then it's also just open to manipulation because
36:19
Speaker 3: if you can make people always kind of be in
36:21
Speaker 3: the state of believing, politicians do this as well as
36:24
Speaker 3: people at the top of religion. They always kind of
36:26
Speaker 3: like just, Just believe, trust the plan. The afterlife is
36:30
Speaker 3: coming if you just do this. It's so easy to
36:32
Speaker 3: lead people along when it's just all about faith and
36:35
Speaker 3: there's never a requirement to actually demonstrate proof or evidence
36:39
Speaker 3: of something. That's part of the manipulation here. It's pulling
36:45
Speaker 3: people along into that. It's just also crazy the amount
36:50
Speaker 3: of cognitive dissonance and contradictions that go along with this.
36:54
Speaker 3: Because even if we just take a really basic example, Okay,
36:57
Speaker 3: so you're a Christian. So you believe Jesus's message, which
37:01
Speaker 3: was unconditional love, loving thy neighbor.
37:03
Speaker 2: He was called the Prince of Peace, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:06
Speaker 3: Okay, so then how did we get from that to
37:09
Speaker 3: you're an evangelical Christian and you support Israel, which is
37:13
Speaker 3: like a murderous thieving country that commits genocide? Like how
37:17
Speaker 3: do you square that with like what Jesus is preaching?
37:20
Speaker 3: That's completely opposite to that. But somehow like in your mind,
37:24
Speaker 3: you're a Christian and you believe in Jesus and you
37:26
Speaker 3: believe in love and peace and loving your neighbor, but
37:29
Speaker 3: you support genocide of Arabs.
37:32
Speaker 1: As Yaakov Shapiro said on my show, Israel has no
37:36
Speaker 1: connection to being a Jew. He is an American. He
37:39
Speaker 1: openly states he's an American who has, sorry, who is
37:44
Speaker 1: a follower of Judaism. He says, leave me alone. I'm
37:47
Speaker 1: not Israeli. I have nothing to do with Israel. Don't
37:50
Speaker 1: speak on behalf of me. Exactly.
37:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, people really need to remember that.
37:57
Speaker 1: Now, the problem here also, Makia, is you were talking
38:02
Speaker 1: about religion. And so much of this conversation is very
38:08
Speaker 1: deeply rooted in religious beliefs, but it has very cleverly
38:12
Speaker 1: been woven into geopolitics. And so, therefore, all of those
38:15
Speaker 1: lines get blurred.
38:20
Speaker 3: This is part of, I actually started my whole book
38:23
Speaker 3: with a triangle and I put Jewish identity in the
38:26
Speaker 3: middle of the triangle and you've got religion, race, nation.
38:30
Speaker 3: What does it mean to be a Jew? And there's
38:32
Speaker 3: a famous musician, saxophonist called Gilad Atsman. I haven't actually
38:37
Speaker 3: seen his writings recently, but he did do a book
38:40
Speaker 3: called The Wandering Who, and he did a lot of writings.
38:43
Speaker 3: And he's been vocal throughout the years, you know, because
38:46
Speaker 3: he grew up in Israel, but he also is kind
38:48
Speaker 3: of English as well. But he had to do the
38:51
Speaker 3: mandatory military service that a lot of Israelis do. And
38:54
Speaker 3: he was just sickened because they were expecting him to
38:56
Speaker 3: basically take pleasure in treating the Palestinians like dogs. He's like,
39:00
Speaker 3: come on, you get to torture them. Like, this is
39:02
Speaker 3: the fun part of the job. But he was like,
39:03
Speaker 3: I'm out. Like, I'd forget this. This is like sick.
39:06
Speaker 3: You guys are sick. Like, so, you know, he, he
39:08
Speaker 3: like feels like he quit being a Jew, you know, um,
39:11
Speaker 3: when I lived in England. But he's spoken a lot
39:14
Speaker 3: about this whole way that they manipulate Jewish identity. So
39:18
Speaker 3: when it's convenient, the Zionists call themselves a Jew and
39:23
Speaker 3: Jews is a race. And when it's convenient, being Jewish
39:27
Speaker 3: is a religion. And when it's convenient, being Jewish is
39:29
Speaker 3: a nation. And they like switch between the different points
39:31
Speaker 3: of the triangle to try and escape any accountability of
39:33
Speaker 3: what they're doing. Or when it suits them, when it's
39:35
Speaker 3: more convenient for them to have some legal protection or
39:38
Speaker 3: some deflection in an argument, you know, they'll just switch
39:41
Speaker 3: between the points. And he's like, this whole thing is
39:43
Speaker 3: just ridiculous. Like none of it makes sense. You're making
39:46
Speaker 3: it up. And he's a Jew saying this. And I mean,
39:50
Speaker 3: that's why when people want to investigate this whole topic,
39:53
Speaker 3: you can actually find a lot of Jewish authors. And
39:57
Speaker 3: we've already mentioned a lot in this interview, you know,
39:59
Speaker 3: Jacob Shapiro, you know, you've got Jewish rabbis, you've got
40:02
Speaker 3: Gilad Atsman. I spoke about Shlomo Sand. I spoke about
40:05
Speaker 3: Arthur Kersler, Jewish authors, a lot of Jewish researchers. They've
40:11
Speaker 3: put out the information to expose all of this.
40:14
Speaker 2: It's all there in the words of Jews themselves.
40:17
Speaker 1: And then you have somebody like Norman Finkelstein who calls
40:20
Speaker 1: the Holocaust an industry, and he's being grilled for it,
40:24
Speaker 1: yet he is correct.
40:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's lots of Jews who have been brave
40:29
Speaker 3: and really have seen through this whole Zionist Israeli scheme
40:31
Speaker 3: and thing, and they've totally exposed it. And then of
40:34
Speaker 3: course the Zionists call them self-hating Jews. It's kind of
40:37
Speaker 3: like another nonsense term. But yeah, that's another whole part
40:41
Speaker 3: of it, the way that they build up a whole
40:43
Speaker 3: Holocaust industry. And I spoke, I wrote in my book
40:46
Speaker 3: about the Zionist Nazi collaboration that was going on. That's
40:49
Speaker 3: another really important point that people often don't know about.
40:53
Speaker 3: The fact is that the top Nazis were collaborating with
40:55
Speaker 3: the top Nazis. Adolf Eichmann was one of the key
41:00
Speaker 3: organizers of the Holocaust. He was speaking with people like
41:03
Speaker 3: Joel Brand and Rudolf Kastner, people in Hungary, Jews in Hungary,
41:08
Speaker 3: and they were making deals to get the rich Zionists
41:11
Speaker 3: out of certain areas of Europe, get them down into
41:13
Speaker 3: Palestine in exchange for them sacrificing all these poor Jews
41:17
Speaker 3: because they wanted to sacrifice poor Jews. It made it better.
41:20
Speaker 3: It made it like more Jewish death. There'd be more
41:23
Speaker 3: hatred against the Nazis and the Germans, more reason to
41:26
Speaker 3: blame them, more sympathy for the poor Jews. And then
41:30
Speaker 3: they would ride that wave of sympathy after World War
41:33
Speaker 3: II to create the modern state of Israel. So they
41:36
Speaker 3: willingly sacrificed like the poor Jews who weren't part of
41:39
Speaker 3: the Zionist club.
41:39
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so sickening what they've done. But, you know,
41:44
Speaker 2: the truth is coming out now.
41:46
Speaker 1: What do we do with this information, Makiyah?
41:50
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there are.
41:51
Speaker 3: Encouraging signs, you know, look at what's happened in the
41:54
Speaker 3: last few years. So they launched this whole false flag
41:57
Speaker 3: operation on October 7th. We just passed the three year
41:59
Speaker 3: anniversary of that. A lot of people saw through it
42:02
Speaker 3: at the time. A lot of world leaders were too
42:05
Speaker 3: afraid to kind of call out the obvious. But, you know,
42:08
Speaker 3: you can't have Hamas hang gliders just flying over the
42:13
Speaker 3: most technologically advanced wall or fence in the world without
42:16
Speaker 3: being noticed and then and the Israeli army standing down
42:19
Speaker 3: for six or seven hours and just letting Hamas run
42:22
Speaker 3: around inside of Israel and just do whatever they want.
42:24
Speaker 2: I mean, it's nonsense, it's absurd, and it's been exposed.
42:28
Speaker 3: And what's also been exposed is how Israel used the
42:30
Speaker 3: Hannibal directive which was.
42:32
Speaker 2: Basically killing their own citizens.
42:34
Speaker 3: Out of the 1200 people that died that day, 800
42:36
Speaker 3: were Israeli citizens killed by the Israeli government. So they
42:41
Speaker 3: killed two thirds of it. They blamed Hamas. They lied
42:44
Speaker 3: about Hamas. They said Hamas was burning babies in ovens
42:47
Speaker 3: and raping women. All of that turned out to be
42:49
Speaker 3: a lie. They couldn't substantiate any of that. There was
42:53
Speaker 3: a Jewish prosecutor who wanted all these Israeli women to
42:55
Speaker 3: come forward with evidence of Hamas rapes, but they couldn't
42:58
Speaker 3: get any women to come forward because it didn't happen.
43:01
Speaker 3: So they lied about that. But the thing is that
43:03
Speaker 3: they really lost the propaganda war, the information war for once.
43:08
Speaker 3: That's when the tide started turning against them because they
43:11
Speaker 3: couldn't justify what they were doing to Gaza.
43:14
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just so horrific.
43:16
Speaker 3: And the rest of the world noticed and said, wait
43:18
Speaker 3: a minute, we don't really care what Hamas supposedly did
43:21
Speaker 3: to you. You don't get to just kill and kill
43:24
Speaker 3: and kill month after month, year after year. It's not equivalent.
43:28
Speaker 3: You can't do that. We're not okay with that. And
43:30
Speaker 3: so finally, the behavior of Israel caught up with it.
43:35
Speaker 3: But of course, rather than actually do some self-reflection or
43:39
Speaker 3: change their behavior, what they did was they doubled down
43:43
Speaker 3: And they just tried to deny it all. And they
43:45
Speaker 3: tried to get control of the media. So this is
43:47
Speaker 3: why we had this whole push with TikTok because a
43:49
Speaker 3: lot of this was getting exposed on TikTok. So then
43:52
Speaker 3: they invented like, oh, Chinese hacking, Chinese spying, Chinese election interference,
43:56
Speaker 3: like all this stuff. I mean, it's the same thing
43:58
Speaker 3: they did with Russia. You know, they blame Muslims or
44:01
Speaker 3: China or Russia when it's really Israel behind it. Now,
44:03
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that like all these, you know, Muslim
44:06
Speaker 3: countries and China and Russia are perfect.
44:08
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that.
44:09
Speaker 3: But what I am saying is that Israel's very cunning
44:12
Speaker 3: at deflecting and creating fake enemies to distract from its control.
44:18
Speaker 3: So they had everyone whipped up in America about Chinese
44:21
Speaker 3: overtaking TikTok and spying on Americans and all this nonsense.
44:23
Speaker 3: So then Congress stepped in and did all this stuff
44:25
Speaker 3: and Trump stepped in and guess what? It ended up
44:27
Speaker 3: going to Larry Ellison, who's a diehard Zionist. So they
44:30
Speaker 3: were only doing that so they could control the narrative
44:32
Speaker 3: on TikTok because they were getting so badly exposed. So yeah,
44:36
Speaker 3: maybe they won like a minor battle in getting control
44:38
Speaker 3: of TikTok. But the point is that they know that
44:41
Speaker 3: they're losing. I've heard Netanyahu talking in Hebrew about this.
44:46
Speaker 3: They realize that the demographics are against them. I mean,
44:48
Speaker 3: when you look at the younger generations, especially people under 30,
44:52
Speaker 3: but even people under 40, under 50, their attitudes have
44:57
Speaker 3: been hardened against Israel because of this horrific Holocaust. And
45:01
Speaker 3: so there's no way that Israel is going to be
45:03
Speaker 3: able to have the level of control as the boomers
45:06
Speaker 3: start dying out and as Generation X starts becoming the
45:09
Speaker 3: next boomer it's going to be way, way harder for them.
45:12
Speaker 3: And so now they're moving on to the next way
45:14
Speaker 3: to try to keep control. And they'll always do that,
45:18
Speaker 3: of course. That's their nature. But the point is that
45:20
Speaker 3: the tides are turning. And what used to be difficult
45:23
Speaker 3: to say 10 or 20 or 30 years ago is
45:26
Speaker 3: now public knowledge. Like this whole thing about 6 million
45:29
Speaker 3: died in the Holocaust. Well, you couldn't really say that
45:31
Speaker 3: 30 years ago. There were very, very few people who
45:33
Speaker 3: were brave enough to say that who even knew it.
45:35
Speaker 3: And then they get like absolutely pounded and pounced upon
45:37
Speaker 3: by the whole antisemitism industry, right? But now you see
45:42
Speaker 3: people sharing this information all the time on X, on
45:45
Speaker 3: all these different other platforms. It's becoming common knowledge that
45:48
Speaker 3: this whole 6 million thing was a symbolic figure. They
45:50
Speaker 3: were talking about it for literally centuries. I mean, there
45:54
Speaker 3: are newspaper clips, literally centuries before 1945 or 1942, before
45:59
Speaker 3: World War II, that were talking about 6 million Jews dying.
46:03
Speaker 3: So like, how the hell is that some accurate, figure
46:05
Speaker 3: when you know it was attributed to like other countries
46:08
Speaker 3: they were saying russians were killing six million jews in
46:10
Speaker 3: pogroms in the 1890s so this whole thing has been
46:14
Speaker 3: exposed people are aware of it people are openly talking
46:17
Speaker 3: about it now there's that they've broken the stigma of
46:20
Speaker 3: like anti-semitism and holocaust denial and all these other stigmas
46:23
Speaker 3: that they cleverly put on us so there are there
46:26
Speaker 3: are hopeful signs but we just need to keep doing
46:29
Speaker 3: this we need to keep not been afraid, keep, keep
46:32
Speaker 3: like being open, sharing information, talking about it, educating ourselves
46:36
Speaker 3: about the real differences, that this is a very nuanced topic. Um, and,
46:40
Speaker 3: and not falling for like simple black and white things
46:42
Speaker 3: of like, oh, you just hate Jews or you just
46:44
Speaker 3: love Hamas or like ridiculous, like one lighted simplistic things
46:48
Speaker 3: when we've just spent 51 minutes dissecting all the, all
46:51
Speaker 3: the kind of fine detail of this topic.
46:53
Speaker 1: And also, by the way, groups like Hamas and ISIS
46:58
Speaker 1: were created with Israeli interests in mind anyway. I mean,
47:01
Speaker 1: Obama said that the U.S. created ISIS and Hamas was
47:06
Speaker 1: propped up by Israel.
47:07
Speaker 2: 100%.
47:08
Speaker 3: And there are even, you know, that's a good thing
47:11
Speaker 3: about investigating all this stuff, because often you can find
47:15
Speaker 3: Jewish sources that back up everything I've been saying in
47:18
Speaker 3: this interview and in my book. For example, with Hamas,
47:21
Speaker 3: we had suitcases of cash that were being delivered to
47:24
Speaker 3: them via Qatar. Netanyahu was involved in this. There's an
47:28
Speaker 3: Israeli online magazine called Plus 972, because that's the area
47:32
Speaker 3: code there. They did the investigation uncovering this. Haaretz is
47:37
Speaker 3: another Israeli newspaper. They have been very critical of Likud,
47:41
Speaker 3: the right-wing party in Netanyahu. They've done a lot of
47:43
Speaker 3: investigations exposing certain stuff that's gone on. So there's a
47:47
Speaker 3: lot of Israeli and Jewish sources too for all of this.
47:50
Speaker 3: But yeah, Hamas, absolutely. We know it's an open secret.
47:54
Speaker 3: It was created in the 80s as a counterbalance to
47:56
Speaker 3: the PLO. They wanted some Islamic fundamentalists and extremists because
48:01
Speaker 3: that suits Israel. They love to have these enemies who
48:04
Speaker 3: they can then say, oh, look at this like extremist
48:06
Speaker 3: fundamentalist enemy. We've got to defend ourselves. We've got to
48:09
Speaker 3: attack them. You know, they thrive off having groups like Hamas.
48:13
Speaker 3: They thrive off having groups like Al-Qaeda. ISIS is another one.
48:17
Speaker 3: Wasn't it funny, Jerm, how ISIS seemed to attack pretty
48:20
Speaker 3: much every single country in the region, but mysteriously never
48:23
Speaker 3: attacked Israel? And Israel was even treating ISIS fighters in
48:27
Speaker 3: its hospitals.
48:31
Speaker 1: It's just a coincidence, Makir.
48:34
Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah. Actually, you know what they said about that?
48:38
Speaker 3: They actually said, oh, it's because we're so generous and
48:43
Speaker 3: kind with our nature that we even treat wounded soldiers
48:47
Speaker 3: of our enemies.
48:52
Speaker 1: But I asked you earlier, what do we do with
48:55
Speaker 1: this information? And somebody will invariably say, okay, but you
48:59
Speaker 1: guys aren't Jews. You guys aren't Israelis. Why do you care?
49:05
Speaker 3: Well, I want to see a free world. I want
49:07
Speaker 3: to see a world of peace, abundance, justice, where people
49:11
Speaker 3: aren't living in fear. We don't have this artificial scarcity
49:13
Speaker 3: going on that's like hijacking our world now. I mean,
49:17
Speaker 3: if you look at this whole agenda that's been happening
49:19
Speaker 3: in the last six months or last eight months since
49:21
Speaker 3: February 28th, since they launched another attack on Iran, We've
49:25
Speaker 3: had the calculated destruction of the food and energy supply.
49:28
Speaker 3: And this hasn't even come home to roost yet. I mean,
49:31
Speaker 3: this is going to be pretty bad going into the
49:34
Speaker 3: next few months and years, affecting lots of people in
49:37
Speaker 3: lots of parts of the world, poor and middle class.
49:40
Speaker 3: Everything's going up. Fuel's becoming more scarce. Food's becoming more scarce.
49:43
Speaker 3: I mean, what is going on with this crazy cult
49:47
Speaker 3: and their messianic ambitions to not just even rule the
49:50
Speaker 3: region but rule the world? It's affecting all of us.
49:53
Speaker 3: It's out of control and it's got to stop. Humanity
49:56
Speaker 3: is so much better than this. We could have a
49:58
Speaker 3: world where we could live in peace, just like Jews
50:01
Speaker 3: and Arabs lived in peace with each other for hundreds
50:05
Speaker 3: of years before Zionism. We could have a world where
50:07
Speaker 3: we all live in peace and we don't have these
50:11
Speaker 3: crazy cults that are basically trying to create a new
50:14
Speaker 3: world order, trying to create a technocratic system that is
50:16
Speaker 3: going to enslave us all. That's why I care. And
50:18
Speaker 3: that's why, you know, Israel is such a central part
50:20
Speaker 3: of this. Understanding how they're driving this whole agenda is
50:24
Speaker 3: really key to stopping it.
50:26
Speaker 1: But you mentioned world peace, Makia, the seventh Noahide law
50:31
Speaker 1: is world courts.
50:36
Speaker 2: Yeah.
50:36
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, as I mentioned earlier, I think there's
50:38
Speaker 3: a very sinister agenda behind that because it's all very
50:42
Speaker 3: well to put out some noble sounding thing, just like
50:44
Speaker 3: the United Nation does with its sustainable development goals. Oh,
50:47
Speaker 3: we're going to end world hunger and we're going to
50:49
Speaker 3: do this and that and sustainability and blah, blah, blah.
50:51
Speaker 3: But you have to really ask yourself, okay, let's decode that.
50:54
Speaker 3: What do they actually mean by that? And I absolutely
50:57
Speaker 3: believe that what they mean by world courts is they
50:59
Speaker 3: want to have They want to administer all the laws,
51:02
Speaker 3: make all the laws and then administer it and then
51:04
Speaker 3: enforce it.
51:06
Speaker 2: And we're not going to have a say in it.
51:08
Speaker 3: And then we're back in this situation where we're controlled again,
51:11
Speaker 3: where we have these two classes of rulers and slaves.
51:15
Speaker 3: And I want to see a world where there's no
51:17
Speaker 3: classes like that. People are equal. Okay, Makia, how can
51:22
Speaker 3: I follow your work? So I'm the editor of thefreedomarticles.com.
51:26
Speaker 3: I publish all my stuff there. I'm on various platforms, YouTube, Rumble, X.
51:31
Speaker 3: My audio books are on Spotify, Substack, BitChute, Odyssey, various platforms.
51:38
Speaker 1: Your audio books are on Spotify?
51:40
Speaker 2: Yes.
51:42
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I didn't know you can have
51:43
Speaker 1: audio books on podcasting platforms.
51:47
Speaker 2: You can. Yeah, actually two of my books.
51:48
Speaker 3: So The Cult of the Chosen Ones and my book
51:50
Speaker 3: before that, The International Satanic Network Exposed.
51:52
Speaker 2: They're both on Spotify.
51:53
Speaker 3: So, you know, these days, a lot of people listen
51:55
Speaker 3: to books, audiobooks. So that's a good way to listen
51:57
Speaker 3: to my work if you don't have the time to
51:59
Speaker 3: read it. Makia Freeman, thank you for joining me in
52:01
Speaker 3: the trenches.
52:03
Speaker 2: Thanks, John.