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- 0:00Speaker 1: Plus pleasing gentlemen.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Gentleman introducing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former
- 0:09Speaker 2: high school basketball stand What the hell does that? Maybe
- 0:13Speaker 2: jumped any conclusions?
- 0:14Speaker 1: No, not a god, You've got to lower lower your expectations.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to
- 0:21Speaker 2: plum getting some bucky jacobs and vibes and former I'll
- 0:26Speaker 2: just openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped X athlete.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
- 0:31Speaker 2: A five seven guard and a former college water polo
- 0:35Speaker 2: and national champion.
- 0:36Speaker 1: There's a lot of useless crap up here.
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- 0:51Speaker 1: Ready to get there you go.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Hey, good Wednesday morning to you. Welcome into the radio
- 1:10Speaker 2: program that is entitled Chucking Back in the Morning Sports
- 1:12Speaker 2: Radio ninety three point three k j A r FM.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan is here. My name is Chuck Powell, and
- 1:18Speaker 2: that's it. If you woke up this morning without a
- 1:22Speaker 2: giant sequoia blocking your driveway, then consider yourself Lucky, because
- 1:28Speaker 2: not everyone you know can say that that's true.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Not everyone you know can say that. I do like
- 1:33Speaker 1: that we went with a sequoia.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Yeah, just to think of the biggest tree.
- 1:36Speaker 1: P it was massive.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it didn't look massive the photos that Bucky provided.
- 1:42Speaker 2: I guess there was a storm. Well, there was a storm.
- 1:44Speaker 2: We all kind of.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Touched this, yeah, the gap winds.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Yeah, we kissed the storm, all of us. But apparently
- 1:50Speaker 2: it really made out with North Bend. I mean it
- 1:53Speaker 2: got it got up and close and personal.
- 1:56Speaker 1: In the business, that's right.
- 1:58Speaker 2: And he got smacked with a storm last night. And
- 2:02Speaker 2: in the midst of it all, I guess one of
- 2:04Speaker 2: the tall timbers that he calls neighbor one friend I
- 2:08Speaker 2: decided to topple ride over and block his passageway out.
- 2:13Speaker 2: So he's stuck there forever.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Well, I mean at this point, I think, now knowing
- 2:17Speaker 1: that it's a sequoia, he's probably better off just drilling
- 2:20Speaker 1: like a doorway, like cutting a doorway through it. It
- 2:23Speaker 1: would be great for tourism, it would I'd go visit, Yeah, exactly,
- 2:26Speaker 1: That's the one thing that would get me to go
- 2:27Speaker 1: out there.
- 2:27Speaker 2: People love driving through a tree. Yeah, in my experience,
- 2:31Speaker 2: I found that they really do be true. They really
- 2:33Speaker 2: do more often than not. Yeah.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Yeah, but luckily they're okay.
- 2:37Speaker 2: His family's good, family's okay.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Yafter not so much.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I saw the residue of that,
- 2:44Speaker 2: but nonetheless, yes, No, Bucky Jacobson. Today he comes up
- 2:49Speaker 2: with clever ways to miswork. I'll give him that.
- 2:51Speaker 1: That was a big one. I mean, he's been talking
- 2:53Speaker 1: about I'll just take this day off and this will
- 2:54Speaker 1: go well, factor fiction will be great. And it's like, no, Bucky,
- 2:57Speaker 1: you got to come to work. Yeah, And he was like, Okay,
- 3:00Speaker 1: they're gonna make me go. All right, let's go step
- 3:03Speaker 1: it up, wins. I want to let's uproot this tree.
- 3:05Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got some creative excuse notes. I'll give him that.
- 3:09Speaker 1: I need to step up my game.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd say so. Welcome in. We've got you covered
- 3:16Speaker 2: for the next four hours, and we have no shortage
- 3:19Speaker 2: of juicy topics to discuss during the course of today's program.
- 3:25Speaker 2: We will have What's on tap for you in a moment.
- 3:27Speaker 2: We also have a couple of other features that we're
- 3:29Speaker 2: going to roll out for you today as well. So
- 3:34Speaker 2: settle in It's going to be your normal Wednesday hump
- 3:37Speaker 2: Day show, but with a lot of things to discuss today,
- 3:41Speaker 2: So we don't want for content, I'll tell you that,
- 3:45Speaker 2: and we will begin with yesterday's big news, the National
- 3:48Speaker 2: Football League trading deadline. Of course the entire hour. I
- 3:52Speaker 2: just noticing I do take some pride in like making
- 3:56Speaker 2: sure that the listener doesn't have to listen to the
- 3:58Speaker 2: same thing, same content, same topics always. Obviously we have
- 4:03Speaker 2: different spins every day, but today I thought it was
- 4:06Speaker 2: kind of important because there were such there were three
- 4:09Speaker 2: big stories going into yesterday, and now I'm like, yeah,
- 4:13Speaker 2: now that we know the answers to these three things,
- 4:17Speaker 2: we should probably have those conversations the next day and
- 4:21Speaker 2: the exact same sequence.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that makes sense.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Yeah, So we talked about in this segment yesterday the
- 4:26Speaker 2: NFL trading deadline. Well, now the NFL trading deadline has passed,
- 4:30Speaker 2: and we know exactly what the Seahawks did and didn't do,
- 4:33Speaker 2: and we also got to witness some blockbusters. It wasn't
- 4:37Speaker 2: quite the amount of trades that I thought that we
- 4:41Speaker 2: would see, especially after we left work around the what
- 4:45Speaker 2: eleven o'clock, there was the Quinn Williams trade on the
- 4:49Speaker 2: way home. But I'm I still I'm looking at it
- 4:51Speaker 2: just turned It's not even turned noon yet. We're gonna
- 4:54Speaker 2: have another hour and then this thing's really gonna unleash. Yeah,
- 4:58Speaker 2: it really didn't, so the mass amount didn't occur. But
- 5:02Speaker 2: rarely do we see blockbuster deals go down on trade deadline,
- 5:06Speaker 2: and we saw two from one team yesterday, which we'll
- 5:10Speaker 2: get into here in a moment. So between that and
- 5:13Speaker 2: the college football rankings figured we talked about that at
- 5:16Speaker 2: six thirty, and they did make a decision on who's
- 5:19Speaker 2: going to quarterback for the Cardinals, So we'll talk about
- 5:21Speaker 2: that again at six forty five. And we have what's
- 5:23Speaker 2: on tap coming up here in a little bit, which
- 5:25Speaker 2: will map out the entire show for you and condense
- 5:28Speaker 2: you that you need to listen to all four hours.
- 5:31Speaker 2: But the NFL trading deadline is certainly where we start,
- 5:34Speaker 2: and the Seahawks did make a move today, very interesting one.
- 5:39Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I'm toying around with like
- 5:42Speaker 2: letter grades. I think that sort of gets old. So
- 5:45Speaker 2: my letter grade for this trade for Rashid Shaheed for
- 5:49Speaker 2: a fourth and a fifth round pick. It is an
- 5:52Speaker 2: f but for fascinating, Oh not for fail really, Yeah,
- 5:57Speaker 2: I didn't want to go down the same old road. Yeah,
- 6:02Speaker 2: it's a fascinating deal. And I was genuinely surprised at
- 6:08Speaker 2: how many of the national guys that I saw covering
- 6:12Speaker 2: the NFL trading deadline event yesterday just couldn't stop raving
- 6:17Speaker 2: about how good to move this is by John Schneider,
- 6:20Speaker 2: how clever a move it is. I don't think Ashley
- 6:23Speaker 2: with a success Jackson Smith and Jigmas had. With Tory
- 6:27Speaker 2: Horton coming off his best game of his young career
- 6:30Speaker 2: and looking like he can be a contributor all season long.
- 6:33Speaker 2: With the amount invested in Cooper Cup and an injury
- 6:36Speaker 2: that doesn't sound like it should keep him out for
- 6:39Speaker 2: very long, we shall see a couple tight ends that
- 6:43Speaker 2: are young and probably just touching upon their abilities this season.
- 6:49Speaker 2: I expect both of those guys to get better as
- 6:51Speaker 2: the season progresses and they rack up more playing time
- 6:54Speaker 2: and more reps. It really did not seem like it
- 6:57Speaker 2: was an area that the Seahawks needed to address. It
- 7:02Speaker 2: almost feels like a luxury pick and yet to grab something.
- 7:06Speaker 2: I mean, how much time do we spend in training
- 7:08Speaker 2: camp talking about where's the guy to take the top
- 7:11Speaker 2: off of the defense, right, something Hugh Millen was very
- 7:14Speaker 2: worried about. Marquez Valdez Scantling was not the answer there,
- 7:19Speaker 2: Tory Horton was starting to look like the answer. And
- 7:21Speaker 2: yet here are the Seahawks. Here's John Schneider, in his
- 7:25Speaker 2: own bold way, saying, you know what, let's get a
- 7:30Speaker 2: guy that truly takes the top off the defense. Let's
- 7:33Speaker 2: get a guy that has led the National Football League
- 7:36Speaker 2: in yards per catch recently, playing with a not so
- 7:39Speaker 2: great quarterback and a not so good team in New
- 7:45Speaker 2: Orleans and lo and behold, nearly everybody that broke this
- 7:49Speaker 2: down yesterday that I witnessed absolutely loves this move for
- 7:53Speaker 2: the Seahawks.
- 7:53Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's all I saw too. Just to everybody
- 7:55Speaker 1: was they weren't bothered by the fourth and the fifth
- 7:57Speaker 1: round pick. They thought it was a great addition. People
- 8:00Speaker 1: were saying, you know, I already knew this or thought
- 8:02Speaker 1: this Seahawks team was good.
- 8:04Speaker 2: And now look at them, like, how are you?
- 8:06Speaker 1: I saw things like how are you going to defend them?
- 8:08Speaker 2: Now?
- 8:09Speaker 1: And this wasn't from local people.
- 8:11Speaker 2: And that's something that that's being said about the offense. Yeah,
- 8:14Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty five Seahawks.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Right, yeah, Yeah, it was crazy and I and I
- 8:18Speaker 1: was excited about the trade. I think, you know, it's
- 8:21Speaker 1: it's always nice when your team's involved in trade deadline, sure,
- 8:24Speaker 1: of course, and so and then to have had it
- 8:26Speaker 1: be that move and not just be something that because
- 8:29Speaker 1: I was a little worried that John was just going
- 8:30Speaker 1: to do something little, just to do something because he
- 8:33Speaker 1: couldn't not be involved.
- 8:35Speaker 2: He never does anything little. I mean, that's what surprised
- 8:38Speaker 2: me by all of the Mafay Woolen and there was
- 8:42Speaker 2: no chatter about Okay, who's he bringing in?
- 8:44Speaker 1: Right exactly?
- 8:45Speaker 2: He always bring somebody in, Yeah, he brought He makes
- 8:47Speaker 2: bold moves at the trading deadline, even when the team's
- 8:51Speaker 2: not playing as well as what they are right now. Yeah.
- 8:54Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not motivated to improve this team
- 8:58Speaker 2: and see how far they can go this year, after
- 9:00Speaker 2: what you watched on Sunday, after what you've watched from
- 9:03Speaker 2: Sam Darnold since the start of the season, then I'm
- 9:07Speaker 2: not sure as a general manager you have a pulse.
- 9:09Speaker 2: We know that John has a raging pulse for making moves.
- 9:14Speaker 2: He's one of the most creative general managers in all
- 9:17Speaker 2: of sports, not just the National Football League. He's bold.
- 9:20Speaker 2: I heard Ian talking about it yesterday. This organization does
- 9:24Speaker 2: put a pedal to the medal when it really comes
- 9:28Speaker 2: down to it. You're talking about a guy that added
- 9:29Speaker 2: Sheldon Richardson at the trading deadline, Jadeveon Clowney, Ernest Jones.
- 9:34Speaker 2: I mean, the list goes on. So I was surprised
- 9:38Speaker 2: leading up to yesterday, where's the talk about who he's
- 9:42Speaker 2: going to add? And there was a little bit about well,
- 9:45Speaker 2: interior offensive line. Well we're always talking about interior offensive
- 9:49Speaker 2: line always, and he rarely pulls that trigger. He's got
- 9:54Speaker 2: something up his sleeve. I didn't see speed receiver coming
- 9:58Speaker 2: down the track because of what I've seen from Tory Horton.
- 10:02Speaker 2: But nonetheless, now that the move has been made, now
- 10:06Speaker 2: that Shaheed gets to be paired with a red hot quarterback,
- 10:11Speaker 2: now that Jackson Smith and Jigba can pretty much you
- 10:15Speaker 2: can line him up anywhere on the offense right now.
- 10:18Speaker 2: I mean you can just have some fun with him.
- 10:21Speaker 2: You can make matchup nightmares. You can break the huddle
- 10:24Speaker 2: and have the defense go, where's eleven and how are
- 10:27Speaker 2: we going to defend him this play because Cup can
- 10:31Speaker 2: run the short routes and Horton can do multiple things,
- 10:34Speaker 2: and Shaheed takes the lid off the defense if you
- 10:37Speaker 2: need him to. I don't know if it was necessary.
- 10:41Speaker 2: There might have been a move out there that addresses
- 10:44Speaker 2: more of a hole or a need. But when you've
- 10:48Speaker 2: got people like you said, saying, how do you stop
- 10:51Speaker 2: this offense on a team built around its defense? Yeah,
- 10:55Speaker 2: and now people are wondering how do you stop the
- 10:58Speaker 2: Seahawks offense? And a lot of that has to do
- 11:00Speaker 2: Donald right, and how great Sam Donald looks, and a
- 11:03Speaker 2: lot asked to do with JSN because even we didn't
- 11:07Speaker 2: see that he was about to become Jamar Chase right.
- 11:11Speaker 2: And and so you have that momentum going, those two
- 11:14Speaker 2: things going. You have a quarterback that once again didn't
- 11:17Speaker 2: get sacked on Sunday. I mean, when's the last time
- 11:20Speaker 2: we talked about a quarterback that doesn't get sacked in Seattle?
- 11:24Speaker 1: No clue, not since I moved here two decades.
- 11:27Speaker 2: I've been here for a decade. Offensive line, it's never
- 11:31Speaker 2: not been a topic since I moved here about how
- 11:34Speaker 2: often our quarterback gets sacked. And now We've got one
- 11:36Speaker 2: of the least touched quarterbacks in the National Football League,
- 11:39Speaker 2: So you just it's almost like John's like, this is
- 11:42Speaker 2: just gonna be fun. This is like the Jimmy Graham move.
- 11:45Speaker 2: And I know that that didn't work out necessarily, but
- 11:49Speaker 2: it's sort of that vibe like I'm playing with house
- 11:52Speaker 2: money right now. Let's get something fun. Yeah, we're not
- 11:56Speaker 2: gonna buy the kids socks for Christmas, not this year, bikes,
- 12:02Speaker 2: video games, They're they're getting something fun. This offense is
- 12:06Speaker 2: going to get something fun. And I can't wait to
- 12:09Speaker 2: see how he blends with the rest of this lineup.
- 12:12Speaker 1: Yeah, that and that is going to be the fun thing.
- 12:14Speaker 1: I mean just how quickly they're you know, involving him
- 12:17Speaker 1: and what they're doing. How how much will he be
- 12:20Speaker 1: involved early on? I mean all of that is going
- 12:22Speaker 1: to be because I do think this is one of
- 12:23Speaker 1: the fun things that we've noticed about this team from
- 12:26Speaker 1: the week one right. Yes, Week one didn't go how
- 12:28Speaker 1: we wanted it to, but it seems like every week
- 12:31Speaker 1: we see something just a little different, like something adds
- 12:35Speaker 1: on something you're seeing, you know, new a new play
- 12:38Speaker 1: or a new something that we haven't seen before. A
- 12:40Speaker 1: new wrinkle and so now here's your next wrinkle, and
- 12:44Speaker 1: he's going to get slowly folded in. And so I
- 12:47Speaker 1: just think or maybe quickly or maybe the experience kub
- 12:51Speaker 1: that's true. Either way, I don't know.
- 12:53Speaker 2: And he knows the offense. Yeah, it's really the offense
- 12:56Speaker 2: he knows best. Rashid Shaheed, Yeah, probably is Clint Kubiak's offense.
- 12:59Speaker 2: I mean he's been immersed in at the last prior
- 13:03Speaker 2: to this year, and so he might be somebody that's
- 13:06Speaker 2: just like, no, no, no, I know, I know what
- 13:07Speaker 2: you're doing here. Just put me in the game. I'll
- 13:09Speaker 2: make some plays for you. So it's it's fun, it's
- 13:12Speaker 2: it's a fascinating move fnospher, fascinating to get us started,
- 13:16Speaker 2: and I think we'll see it enacted against the Cardinals
- 13:20Speaker 2: coming up on Sunday. There were obviously other moves, bigger
- 13:24Speaker 2: moves that were made Entrade deadline. I think the other
- 13:28Speaker 2: two teams that have to be discussed here are the
- 13:31Speaker 2: Jets and the Cowboys. And let's start with the Jets,
- 13:34Speaker 2: because they also are getting ridiculous amounts of praise for
- 13:37Speaker 2: what they did yesterday. And I'm not sure I'm on
- 13:41Speaker 2: board with it when we were kids. I was for incomplete.
- 13:46Speaker 2: I don't know if that grading system existed in Washington
- 13:50Speaker 2: or for a person of your age, but you know,
- 13:52Speaker 2: you get an ABCD and then F and then every
- 13:56Speaker 2: once in a while somebody, some teacher would be a
- 13:58Speaker 2: smart ass and just say you didn't complete the curriculum.
- 14:01Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you an eye.
- 14:02Speaker 1: I saw nightmares that I have gone through an entire
- 14:04Speaker 1: semester and not completed the curriculum.
- 14:06Speaker 2: I don't give this I for incomplete. I give this
- 14:09Speaker 2: I for incompetent. For the Jets, and not that their
- 14:12Speaker 2: moves yesterday were a symbol of incompetence, but their history
- 14:18Speaker 2: is of incompetence, and not franchise history, recent history. Their
- 14:24Speaker 2: present history is a symbol of incompetence. And so everybody,
- 14:29Speaker 2: because everybody loves accumulating draft picks, and as much as
- 14:34Speaker 2: I love the draft, and if you haven't heard, it's
- 14:36Speaker 2: all my business cards, I'm father draftmiss. I love the draft,
- 14:39Speaker 2: and I do believe in draft capital. But I also
- 14:43Speaker 2: we have to recognize it doesn't matter how much draft
- 14:47Speaker 2: capital you accumulate if you don't hit on your draft picks.
- 14:53Speaker 2: And the New York Jets don't hit on their draft picks.
- 14:57Speaker 2: The only times they've hit on their draft picks, they
- 15:01Speaker 2: just traded the two guys that they hit on, and
- 15:04Speaker 2: by the way, those were both top five selection. It's
- 15:08Speaker 2: easier to hit on your draft picks the closer you
- 15:11Speaker 2: pick to the top, and so the New York Jets
- 15:14Speaker 2: are going to be picking close to the top. But
- 15:16Speaker 2: that's not what they acquired yesterday. They acquired two first
- 15:20Speaker 2: round picks for the Indianapolis Colts, who seem to know
- 15:23Speaker 2: what they're doing right now. Those are going to be
- 15:25Speaker 2: late first round picks. Jets don't hit on late first
- 15:29Speaker 2: round picks. Now they have a brand new general manager,
- 15:32Speaker 2: and maybe we have to play the game of giving
- 15:35Speaker 2: him the benefit of the doubt, but Woody Johnson's still
- 15:37Speaker 2: the owner. And the truth of the matter is, if
- 15:40Speaker 2: you're going to go as far as trading the only
- 15:43Speaker 2: two pieces that are functioning and working for you, and
- 15:47Speaker 2: now you're left with nothing but a mystery for the
- 15:49Speaker 2: rest of the season. Part of this is you need
- 15:52Speaker 2: to get as bad as you can get, because if
- 15:55Speaker 2: you don't finish with the number one or number two pick,
- 15:59Speaker 2: you're probably not gonna get the quarterback that you seek
- 16:02Speaker 2: that Woody Johnson publicly is declaring that the organization needs.
- 16:07Speaker 2: So if you end up with the fifth or sixth
- 16:09Speaker 2: pick because you didn't trade off enough pieces at the
- 16:12Speaker 2: trading deadline, guess what's gonna happen. You're gonna take all
- 16:15Speaker 2: that draft capital that you accumulated. You're gonna package it
- 16:18Speaker 2: together to move up in the draft to get the
- 16:20Speaker 2: number one pick, yep, so that you can get your
- 16:23Speaker 2: quarterback of choice. I remember when Carolina did that and
- 16:27Speaker 2: ended up with Bryce Young. I mean, you have to
- 16:32Speaker 2: be a competent organization that hits on draft picks in
- 16:36Speaker 2: order to feel good about your draft capital. There's no
- 16:38Speaker 2: evidence of that for the New York Jets. To me,
- 16:41Speaker 2: they traded away the only two functional pieces that they
- 16:43Speaker 2: have in the entire organization, and they were locked up
- 16:46Speaker 2: long term, so it's not like they had expiring contracts.
- 16:50Speaker 2: So I don't know why everybody thinks the Jets won
- 16:54Speaker 2: the day yesterday. Because you want to talk about IY
- 16:57Speaker 2: is for incomplete. We got to see what they do
- 17:00Speaker 2: with what they got in return, and I is for incompetent.
- 17:04Speaker 2: They've never been good at it.
- 17:05Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason that Jets fans have always
- 17:07Speaker 1: been shown booing every time the Jets make a pick
- 17:10Speaker 1: in the draft. I mean when it used to be
- 17:12Speaker 1: at Radio City Music Hall or whatever, and the Jets
- 17:14Speaker 1: fans were always there. Every pick the Jets made, they booed,
- 17:17Speaker 1: and it was because it was like, oh good, how
- 17:19Speaker 1: are you going to screw this one up?
- 17:20Speaker 2: Yeah, that just didn't happen one day. That happened because
- 17:23Speaker 2: you have a history of doing that exactly, and your
- 17:25Speaker 2: recent history is even worse than your franchise history. So
- 17:29Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see. I mean that's the case with
- 17:31Speaker 2: I know, every sporting topic. We'll see. But I mean,
- 17:36Speaker 2: you've you've you got to connect. We don't get to
- 17:39Speaker 2: count your number two pick you end up with the
- 17:41Speaker 2: draft and the draft because you were bad. Yeah, the
- 17:44Speaker 2: picks you accumulated are going to be late first rounders
- 17:47Speaker 2: mostly and a second rounder for this upcoming year. And
- 17:50Speaker 2: then finally, just quickly, Cowboys, oh minus for old minus
- 17:56Speaker 2: old Jerry Jones. I know he's fine, thing, and I
- 18:01Speaker 2: know you can see it that he's he's really worried
- 18:04Speaker 2: that he's not going to win another Super Bowl before
- 18:06Speaker 2: it's too late, and he is fighting it for everything
- 18:09Speaker 2: he can he can, but man, these he's basically traded
- 18:14Speaker 2: Micah Parsons for two defensive tackles and a inside linebacker.
- 18:21Speaker 2: So a three five and one team that just got
- 18:24Speaker 2: blasted at home by the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, and was
- 18:29Speaker 2: that at home? Team did they play was money and
- 18:34Speaker 2: I football, It doesn't matter.
- 18:36Speaker 1: It was.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Yeah, they got blasted by the Arizona Cardinals, where their
- 18:39Speaker 2: quarterback says, we got dominated on both sides of the
- 18:42Speaker 2: ball by a team that had lost five straight games
- 18:44Speaker 2: and was starting their backup quarterback and that's the time
- 18:49Speaker 2: to go for it at the trading deadline.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Well, and he was bragging about that he made the
- 18:53Speaker 1: trade before the game and all we made it where
- 18:55Speaker 1: we've already made a trade tonight, I'm like, what are
- 18:57Speaker 1: you doing?
- 18:58Speaker 2: You have three five and one, and that's the time
- 19:01Speaker 2: to go to be the most aggressive team at the
- 19:04Speaker 2: trading deadline. You're not even going to make the playoffs.
- 19:08Speaker 2: And you better be able to stop the run now
- 19:11Speaker 2: because you've committed more draft capital and more player capital
- 19:16Speaker 2: to stopping the run than any team I've ever seen
- 19:19Speaker 2: in my entire life watching football. So you better be
- 19:22Speaker 2: able to stop the run going forward, otherwise you've just
- 19:26Speaker 2: traded away Mica Parsons for nothing. Yeah, and so I mean,
- 19:32Speaker 2: of those three teams that we've outlined, I like the
- 19:35Speaker 2: Seahawks trade deadline over all of them, even though people
- 19:38Speaker 2: seem to be raving about both the Jets and the
- 19:41Speaker 2: Cowboys and what they did yesterday at the NFL trading deadline.
- 19:44Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk more about that coming up on
- 19:46Speaker 2: the show. Let's find out what else is on tap?
- 19:50Speaker 2: What's on TEP, what's on TEP. Well, now that the
- 19:54Speaker 2: deadline is over, we have all the pieces in place,
- 19:57Speaker 2: it's time to make Super Bowl picks. Here on the show,
- 20:00Speaker 2: we have a Green Jacket draft coming your way today
- 20:02Speaker 2: at nine o'clock. It's hump day, so we will start
- 20:05Speaker 2: really diving into this Arizona Cardinals matchup. Greg Bell will
- 20:08Speaker 2: join us at seven oh five. He'll also have thoughts
- 20:11Speaker 2: on the trade deadline, the fact that Tarik Wooland and
- 20:14Speaker 2: boy A Mafe are still part of the roster, and
- 20:17Speaker 2: the fact that the Arizona Cardinals named Jacoby Brissett their
- 20:20Speaker 2: starting quarterback for this game. Is there more to it
- 20:24Speaker 2: than just a one game designation. We'll talk about that
- 20:27Speaker 2: coming up at six forty five. Huskies will be at
- 20:30Speaker 2: Wisconsin this Saturday, so after a bye week, they are
- 20:33Speaker 2: back in action. Cam Cleeland will join us to talk
- 20:36Speaker 2: about that at eight o'clock. Sounders in Minnesota United will
- 20:39Speaker 2: not settle their series until Sunday. Of course, that series
- 20:43Speaker 2: is even at one match apiece cracking back in action
- 20:46Speaker 2: tonight they'll take on the Sharks. How about a winning
- 20:48Speaker 2: regulation that would be nice. Yeah, let's do that against
- 20:52Speaker 2: the Sharks tonight at seven. Mariners did pick up the
- 20:55Speaker 2: option on Andres Munjos. That was a no brainer. We'll
- 20:58Speaker 2: talk more about that coming up on the show. And
- 21:01Speaker 2: college football playoff rankings, the first official ones are out,
- 21:05Speaker 2: and as we discussed yesterday at six thirty, we will
- 21:08Speaker 2: now discuss the results of the first rankings at six
- 21:10Speaker 2: thirty today. We'll do it next. It's Chuck and Ashley
- 21:13Speaker 2: with you Sports Radio ninety three point three kh A
- 21:16Speaker 2: r F m oh Chuck and Ashley with you. Bucky
- 21:35Speaker 2: Jacobson playing the role of timber Lumberjack, Timber John, Timber John, Lumberjack,
- 21:45Speaker 2: Lumberbuck out there in the woodlands, chopping up trees to
- 21:50Speaker 2: try to get to work. It's Chuck and Ashley with
- 21:52Speaker 2: you until ten o'clock here today. We do have a
- 21:55Speaker 2: lot of cool stuff coming your way today, including Factor
- 21:59Speaker 2: Fiction at seven thirty five. Al Koniski, by the way,
- 22:02Speaker 2: didn't mention that in What's on Tap he'll join us
- 22:04Speaker 2: at nine to thirty, plus Reckless at Breakfast at seven
- 22:08Speaker 2: forty five and more. But as I mentioned to start
- 22:11Speaker 2: the show, I think that we mapped out the show
- 22:14Speaker 2: where we talked NFL trading deadline at six, college football
- 22:16Speaker 2: playoff rankings at six thirty and then Murray versus Brissett
- 22:20Speaker 2: at six forty five. Will we now all have information
- 22:23Speaker 2: on all these stories, we got to now react to
- 22:25Speaker 2: it in the exact same place exactly. And so let's
- 22:28Speaker 2: react to the college football playoff rankings. The first ones
- 22:31Speaker 2: came out yesterday, Ohio States, the one, Indiana's, the two
- 22:35Speaker 2: Texas and Ms, the three, Alabama's the four No surprises there.
- 22:39Speaker 2: Georgia ended up the fifth ranked team, ole Miss number six.
- 22:43Speaker 2: Still no surprises at that point in the process. Then
- 22:47Speaker 2: the surprises started to come a little bit. We talked
- 22:49Speaker 2: a little bit with Bucky who just was just gobsmacked
- 22:54Speaker 2: by the thought that BYU could be ranked ahead of
- 22:56Speaker 2: Oregon yesterday. Well, not only have they ranked ahead of Oregon,
- 23:00Speaker 2: they're ranked two spots ahead of Oregon. BYU undefeated right
- 23:04Speaker 2: now is number seven. Then it's Texas Tech number eight,
- 23:08Speaker 2: and then Oregon doesn't come in until number nine in
- 23:13Speaker 2: the rankings. And then just to wrap it up, ten
- 23:16Speaker 2: is Notre Dame, eleven is Virginia, and twelve is Memphis
- 23:19Speaker 2: because you do have to have one of the non
- 23:22Speaker 2: Power five schools represented in Memphis right now is the
- 23:26Speaker 2: best of the crew. So that's your field of twelve
- 23:29Speaker 2: right now. But the big story coming out of it
- 23:32Speaker 2: is certainly where Oregon is ranked at number nine. And
- 23:37Speaker 2: let's be honest about it, and especially since Bucky's not
- 23:40Speaker 2: here to get his feelings hurt, that is well earned.
- 23:43Speaker 2: I mean, they shouldn't be more than nine right now.
- 23:47Speaker 2: And I know that people get up in arms, and
- 23:50Speaker 2: Bucky's one of them about polls, and I don't want
- 23:53Speaker 2: to hear about how a team looks on paper. Well,
- 23:56Speaker 2: the only reason Oregon is ranked where they are in
- 23:59Speaker 2: the AP pole and then the coaches poll is because
- 24:02Speaker 2: of how they good they look on paper and the
- 24:04Speaker 2: reputation of the program when you actually isolate the schedule,
- 24:10Speaker 2: they shouldn't be ranked at all. And that's the truth.
- 24:13Speaker 2: They don't have a quality win. Their best win is Northwestern,
- 24:18Speaker 2: that's their best win. They have one loss.
- 24:22Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Penn State sucked.
- 24:24Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Penn State can't be considered a great win
- 24:27Speaker 2: now if you want to argue, but on paper. But
- 24:30Speaker 2: we're not arguing on paper, are we No longer? We're
- 24:33Speaker 2: at college football ranking time. This is the college football
- 24:36Speaker 2: playoff ranking show, right, Yeah, Penn State has to be
- 24:39Speaker 2: viewed on their resume, and their resume is that they
- 24:42Speaker 2: are winless in conference play. They are zero and five
- 24:47Speaker 2: against Big Ten opponents this year. As a matter of fact,
- 24:50Speaker 2: the four Big Ten opponents that Oregon has defeated this
- 24:55Speaker 2: year have a combined record in the conference of four
- 24:59Speaker 2: and seventeen. So they haven't beaten anybody. Yeah, they haven't
- 25:05Speaker 2: been anybody of note, nobody that gives them credence at
- 25:09Speaker 2: this time of the year. So the fact that they're
- 25:11Speaker 2: number nine based on their resume is actually giving them
- 25:15Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt. They have one loss this
- 25:17Speaker 2: year at home, now, yes, it was against Indiana, they
- 25:22Speaker 2: got blown out. And yes, I think that their overtime
- 25:27Speaker 2: victory over Penn State at Penn State was a terrific win. Yes,
- 25:32Speaker 2: and it pretty much spelled the demand. There was no
- 25:36Speaker 2: more impactful of a win in college football this year
- 25:39Speaker 2: and maybe in my lifetime than that victory of Oregon
- 25:44Speaker 2: over Penn State. Because Penn State was so defeated by
- 25:49Speaker 2: not pulling that game out in a year where we've
- 25:52Speaker 2: got to win it this year or we may never
- 25:54Speaker 2: win it, that they weren't ready to play Ucla the
- 25:58Speaker 2: next week. Then when they got him raist by Ucla,
- 26:01Speaker 2: the whole thing fell apart. Oregon's win over Penn State
- 26:06Speaker 2: pretty much led to the demise of James Franklin and
- 26:09Speaker 2: an entire program. That is a significant win. That's the
- 26:13Speaker 2: most significant win of the entire season. And yet we're
- 26:17Speaker 2: at college football rankings time. We don't think about that stuff, right,
- 26:22Speaker 2: or at least it doesn't play as big of a factor.
- 26:25Speaker 2: We have to look at resumes, and the resume suggests
- 26:29Speaker 2: you barely beat Penn State. Yeah, that's how it has
- 26:35Speaker 2: to read. Now, you barely beat a bad football team,
- 26:38Speaker 2: a team that can't win a conference game. So not
- 26:42Speaker 2: only does it not look like some great win, which
- 26:45Speaker 2: it will still get credit for. It's still a human
- 26:47Speaker 2: beings making this decision, but on its face it can't
- 26:51Speaker 2: be considered a big win.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Yeah, I can definitely see that. It's hard for my
- 26:56Speaker 1: mind to rationalize it. I think just because obviously watching
- 26:59Speaker 1: that game scene that game, that was a big win
- 27:01Speaker 1: for them, and that was a great game. But I
- 27:03Speaker 1: totally understand in the scheme of things. Then when you
- 27:05Speaker 1: look at what's happened to Penn State since then and
- 27:08Speaker 1: where they're at now, and then you look at okay, well,
- 27:11Speaker 1: here's their record against this, or here's Oregon's record, here's
- 27:14Speaker 1: who they beat, and here's all those records, then yeah,
- 27:16Speaker 1: it doesn't look as great at the time. I do
- 27:18Speaker 1: think it was great, no doubt.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said, I think that will enter
- 27:22Speaker 2: the conversation. But if we're that's the problem people have
- 27:28Speaker 2: with polls, or you just look at it and you
- 27:30Speaker 2: think Alabama is better, so you're ranking them there. Okay,
- 27:35Speaker 2: all right, Well here we are. We're at the time
- 27:37Speaker 2: of the year where there's enough of the season that
- 27:40Speaker 2: has been This is why they wait until after we
- 27:43Speaker 2: change the clocks in order to do the first college
- 27:46Speaker 2: football playoff ranking, because they need a large enough sample
- 27:49Speaker 2: size to say, all, right, now we've got a feel
- 27:51Speaker 2: for who's in position to make the playoffs, and so
- 27:55Speaker 2: we'd want to get past all of that. That's how
- 27:58Speaker 2: good they look on paper, and we just want tangible results,
- 28:03Speaker 2: tangible evidence. And sure, sure intangibles do play a factor,
- 28:09Speaker 2: but they can't play as big a factor as tangible evidence.
- 28:12Speaker 2: And the tangible evidence is that your win over Penn
- 28:15Speaker 2: State now no longer looks good because of how bad
- 28:18Speaker 2: Penn State has turned out to be, And so Oregon's
- 28:22Speaker 2: lucky to be number nine in the rankings, truth be told,
- 28:27Speaker 2: based off of their resume, and they don't have a
- 28:30Speaker 2: great opportunity to improve that resume. USC well, Iowa, that's
- 28:36Speaker 2: not true, Yeah, because Iowa have Iowa this week, which
- 28:39Speaker 2: will make it look better, and then they have USC eventually,
- 28:42Speaker 2: and then they have Washington eventually, and those should all
- 28:45Speaker 2: be considered three quality wins. But there's a chance that
- 28:48Speaker 2: not a single one of those teams ends up ranked.
- 28:51Speaker 2: I mean, right now, they're all twenty or lower in
- 28:54Speaker 2: the rankings, and so if they stumble by a game
- 28:58Speaker 2: or more, the rest of the way. Plus if you
- 29:00Speaker 2: beat them, that also is a notch against them. Yep,
- 29:04Speaker 2: and their overall strength of schedule. So Oregon's probably got
- 29:08Speaker 2: to win out at this point. They probably got to
- 29:11Speaker 2: win out and at least get to the conference championship game.
- 29:14Speaker 1: I would assume that, Yeah, they'd have to win out.
- 29:16Speaker 2: I don't think maybe not that because if Indiana and
- 29:19Speaker 2: Ohio State are on.
- 29:20Speaker 1: A game, yeah, then we're not, so you're not gonna
- 29:21Speaker 1: make it there.
- 29:22Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would.
- 29:22Speaker 1: I would assume, yes, winning out is a key for them,
- 29:25Speaker 1: and I don't I don't really have a problem with
- 29:28Speaker 1: them being ranked ninth, just looking at the teams around
- 29:31Speaker 1: them and where they're ranked. I think that's a pretty
- 29:33Speaker 1: good fit for them right now.
- 29:35Speaker 2: Well, I don't have a problem with it either. But
- 29:37Speaker 2: I also think, but I like Poles, Yeah you do.
- 29:41Speaker 2: I'm one that says I don't mind that a team
- 29:44Speaker 2: that a polster looks at a team and thinks, okay, well,
- 29:49Speaker 2: that team's better on paper, I don't mind that. I'm
- 29:52Speaker 2: saying that's hypocrisy to say I hate the polls, and
- 29:56Speaker 2: then when you get to the college football playoff rank,
- 29:59Speaker 2: He's like, come on, on Oregon's better than BYU. You
- 30:03Speaker 2: can't do you can't have it both ways. So right
- 30:07Speaker 2: now BYU's resume is far more impressive than Oregon. So
- 30:11Speaker 2: is Texas tex Now there's a there's a window here
- 30:13Speaker 2: because BYU and Texas Tech are gonna play each other
- 30:16Speaker 2: this week. So one of those teams has to lose,
- 30:18Speaker 2: and that's gonna knock them down a couple of rungs
- 30:21Speaker 2: on the ladder, and it's going to strengthen the other
- 30:23Speaker 2: one by a couple of rules. And then and then
- 30:27Speaker 2: there's that ACC fly in the ointment because obviously an
- 30:30Speaker 2: ACC team has to go h. Virginia actually is ranked
- 30:34Speaker 2: below Texas, Oklahoma, and Utah the College Football Playoff rankings,
- 30:40Speaker 2: not the Associated Press, not the Coaches bull The rankings
- 30:44Speaker 2: from last night have Texas, Oklahoma, and Utah all ahead
- 30:48Speaker 2: of Virginia based off of resume. But Virginia gets into
- 30:53Speaker 2: the tournament field because the ACC has to be represented.
- 30:57Speaker 2: And and even though Virginia with an eight and one record,
- 31:01Speaker 2: which is very impressive and they're undefeated in conference play,
- 31:05Speaker 2: there are five teams in the ACC with one loss
- 31:08Speaker 2: or fewer. Duke SMU actually six Duke SMU, Louisville, Pitt,
- 31:13Speaker 2: Georgia Tech, and Virginia. Well, Virginia has only faced one
- 31:17Speaker 2: of those teams one of those teams this year, and
- 31:22Speaker 2: so if they don't win out, they have no chance
- 31:25Speaker 2: of making it. This might be the highlight of Virginia's year.
- 31:29Speaker 2: So they got to see their logo on the College
- 31:32Speaker 2: Football Playoff Rankings show on November fourth on ESPN. That
- 31:36Speaker 2: might be the highlight of the entire Cavaliers year because
- 31:39Speaker 2: they have no margin for air. The ACC has obviously
- 31:43Speaker 2: looked down upon compared to the other power conferences, and
- 31:47Speaker 2: they haven't faced any of the best teams in their
- 31:51Speaker 2: conference with the exception of Louisville, and they will face
- 31:54Speaker 2: Duke before the season comes to a close. But Virginia's
- 31:57Speaker 2: gotta win out because there is only going to be
- 32:00Speaker 2: one representative out of the ACC. So those are the
- 32:03Speaker 2: highlights from it. The other thing, just quickly is that
- 32:06Speaker 2: I was really curious to see where Notre Dame would
- 32:08Speaker 2: rank because they would be entering as the top two
- 32:11Speaker 2: loss team in the rankings, and indeed they were, and
- 32:16Speaker 2: that's They're not going to finish any lower than tenth
- 32:19Speaker 2: unless they stumble and there's a chance they face I mean,
- 32:23Speaker 2: they're twenty five point favorites against Navy this week, and
- 32:26Speaker 2: they're at pitt next week, so Notre Dame's probably getting
- 32:29Speaker 2: in despite the zero and two start that they got
- 32:31Speaker 2: off to this year. All Right, we'll talk more about
- 32:34Speaker 2: it later on in the show. Cam Cleeland will join
- 32:36Speaker 2: us at eight o'clock to talk Huskies. Coming up next though,
- 32:39Speaker 2: the other topic that we discussed in our six o'clock
- 32:42Speaker 2: hour yesterday, and now we have information as to who's
- 32:46Speaker 2: going to start Murray or Brissette against the Seahawks. Sports
- 32:49Speaker 2: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Well, Sweet Propping dumb,
- 32:56Speaker 2: the Deith John, It's Chuck Powell and Lee Ryan with
- 33:01Speaker 2: you here this morning. Bucky is out today. He is
- 33:04Speaker 2: lumberbucking in his own backyard. So Greg Bell will be
- 33:08Speaker 2: with us at seven o five. We also have your
- 33:09Speaker 2: headlines at seven o'clock. And now to pay off the
- 33:12Speaker 2: third story in succession that we discussed on the six
- 33:16Speaker 2: o'clock hour, and now we have the yesterday and now
- 33:18Speaker 2: we have the necessary information to react. I asked Greg
- 33:22Speaker 2: Bell yesterday that, and I wasn't trying to be cute
- 33:25Speaker 2: or funny who and Mike McDonald rather face a quarterback
- 33:29Speaker 2: this week from the Arizona Cardinals Brissett or Kyler Murray?
- 33:33Speaker 2: And Greg sort of laughed it off and like, well Murray,
- 33:35Speaker 2: of course, I couldn't disagree more. That's the reason why
- 33:39Speaker 2: I asked the question, because it's actually a question this week.
- 33:44Speaker 2: It's a question the Cardinals are asking themselves, who are
- 33:46Speaker 2: we better off with Brissett or Murray. It seems preposterous.
- 33:51Speaker 2: Had I asked that at the beginning of the year,
- 33:53Speaker 2: then I think it's laugh worthy. But the fact that
- 33:57Speaker 2: this is now a question that the Cardinals are asking themselves,
- 34:02Speaker 2: it might sound a little bit preposterous, but it isn't.
- 34:05Speaker 2: This is the story for the Arizona Cardinals. Are we
- 34:09Speaker 2: moving on from Kyler Murray this week and maybe even
- 34:13Speaker 2: permanently because Jacoby Brissett is just better for us right now?
- 34:18Speaker 2: And yesterday they made the announcement. Now there's still the
- 34:21Speaker 2: twinge of the tinge of whether or not Kyler Murray,
- 34:24Speaker 2: how hurt is he? There are actually is he actually hurt?
- 34:28Speaker 2: I mean, there were reports yesterday out of Arizona suggesting
- 34:32Speaker 2: they were going to make the Jacoby Brissett decision, no
- 34:34Speaker 2: matter if Kyler Murray was one thousand percent healthy, that
- 34:38Speaker 2: he was going to be their starter against the Seahawks
- 34:40Speaker 2: this week. And so this is not this is a
- 34:43Speaker 2: legitimate thing that the Cardinals organization is asking themselves. And
- 34:48Speaker 2: for now, for this week, we now know that whether
- 34:52Speaker 2: Kyler murray is injured or not, Jacoby Brissett's going to
- 34:54Speaker 2: be starting against the Seahawks.
- 34:56Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would have rather faced Kyler Murray for sure.
- 34:58Speaker 1: So really yeah, yeah, he's tiny and not very good,
- 35:03Speaker 1: I don't think. And I just and you kind of
- 35:06Speaker 1: have had you've had more experience with him, you know,
- 35:08Speaker 1: kind of what you're getting with him versus Jacoby Brissette,
- 35:11Speaker 1: who hasn't played much. And so now you're, you know,
- 35:13Speaker 1: going off a limited limited what's the word. I'm looking
- 35:18Speaker 1: for information, that's the way.
- 35:19Speaker 2: I don't know why.
- 35:20Speaker 1: That was hard for me to find. And so I
- 35:23Speaker 1: and you know, he didn't look great, but he didn't
- 35:26Speaker 1: look terrible against Dallas, but Dallas is really bad. So
- 35:29Speaker 1: I don't really know what to think of him. But
- 35:31Speaker 1: I just also know the Seahawks history with backup quarterbacks,
- 35:34Speaker 1: it hasn't always gone well.
- 35:35Speaker 2: For us. Ah, I see, well, look, I mean I
- 35:39Speaker 2: get certainly get the argument that, of course Kyler Murray's
- 35:42Speaker 2: got the upside and he introduces a dangerous element that
- 35:46Speaker 2: with his legs that Jacoby Brissett just does not possess.
- 35:49Speaker 2: But there's also something to who are the Cardinals play
- 35:53Speaker 2: better with? Yeah, and I heard this on another show,
- 35:56Speaker 2: so I'll give a credit Colin Coward. Yesterday they are
- 35:59Speaker 2: six points better per game with Jacoby Brissett starting over
- 36:04Speaker 2: Kyler Murray. There's no question that Jacoby Brissett is the better,
- 36:09Speaker 2: considered the better leader in the clubhouse. Oh yeah, there's
- 36:12Speaker 2: no doubt that the team has rallied more around Brissett
- 36:16Speaker 2: than what they're rallying around Kyler Murray right now. And
- 36:20Speaker 2: he's one hundred percent healthy or at least as healthy
- 36:23Speaker 2: as you can be as an NFL quarterback halfway through
- 36:26Speaker 2: the season, where clearly Kyler Murray is not. So I
- 36:29Speaker 2: think it was the surprise. What made the question stand
- 36:35Speaker 2: out yesterday is because it is a legitimate question, all
- 36:39Speaker 2: things being equal, who would Mike McDonald rather face a
- 36:43Speaker 2: quarterback on Sunday? And yeah, maybe the answer is Kyler Murray,
- 36:49Speaker 2: but it may not be Kyler Murray. I mean, based
- 36:52Speaker 2: on what we're seeing from the Arizona Cardinals recently, they
- 36:56Speaker 2: seem to be a better football team with their backup
- 36:59Speaker 2: quarterback on center, and Jonathan Gannon, whatever his reasons are,
- 37:05Speaker 2: isn't going to disrupt that going into this week. He's
- 37:08Speaker 2: starting percent we are facing and.
- 37:10Speaker 1: That's that's a smart choice by him, because he it
- 37:12Speaker 1: is true, you're coming off a win. Why are you
- 37:14Speaker 1: going to mess with it? Especially if I'm using air
- 37:17Speaker 1: quotes here. Kyler Murray is not healthy yet, you know,
- 37:21Speaker 1: and if even if he is healthy, you haven't really
- 37:24Speaker 1: gotten a lot of practice time with him, because that
- 37:26Speaker 1: would have meant he just got healthy.
- 37:27Speaker 2: And even if he is healthy, you still have a
- 37:29Speaker 2: window of well, we want to make sure. Yeah, we
- 37:32Speaker 2: don't want to rush this. Yeah, you know, team's playing
- 37:35Speaker 2: pretty well right now, you know, so let's give it
- 37:38Speaker 2: another week. You know, they still can play that game
- 37:41Speaker 2: a little bit. We have no idea what's going on
- 37:42Speaker 2: behind the none none, not even not even Cardinal fans
- 37:46Speaker 2: or Cardinal insiders or Cardinal talk showws know exactly what's
- 37:49Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes. But there are enough people,
- 37:52Speaker 2: but there are a lot of people that believe Kyler
- 37:56Speaker 2: Murray may have started his last game as an Arizona Cardinal.
- 37:59Speaker 1: Now I don't think that be over. Yeah, yeah, I
- 38:02Speaker 1: would say I could definitely see that. The question is
- 38:04Speaker 1: where would he I just don't know where he would
- 38:07Speaker 1: go that anyone would find a place for him in
- 38:10Speaker 1: the future.
- 38:10Speaker 2: Well, maybe we'll cover that in Reckless and Breakfast, OH Headlines.
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