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Pit Stop: This is Sisterhood (Patreon Special Re-release) · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  BreakFix podcast is all about capturing the living history of people from
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  all over the autosphere, from wrench turners and racers to artists, authors,
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  designers, and everything in between.
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  Our goal is to inspire a new generation of petrolheads that wonder.
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  How did they get that job?
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  Or become that person?
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  The road to success is paved by all of us.
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  Because everyone has a story.
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  Our guests tonight are the epitome of yin and yang.
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  One being sassy and independent, while the other gentle and loving.
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  From an early age, they were encouraged to try anything and everything.
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  And there was only one thing these sisters had in common, and that
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  was their love for adventure.
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  Fascinated with off roading from an early age, receiving their first dirt
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  bikes around the age of 10, they quickly realized, like any sport, it requires
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  proper gear and safety equipment.
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  But the problem is, there were hardly any options for young ladies.
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  During the pandemic, sisters Paige and Kelly McReynolds jokingly talked about
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  what their dream company would look like.
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  Women's motocross apparel that they actually wanted to wear,
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  instead of whatever they could scrounge up in the men's section.
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  They sat down at the whiteboard and within an hour had a name, slogan,
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  and their first design sketches.
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  They knew they had something special and they wanted to share their story.
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  Their designs and their passion for adventure with other women
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  and girls around the world.
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  So join me on this adventure with my co host Mountain Man Dan and our guest Paige
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  and Kelly McReynolds to share their story and tell us all about McRey Motocross.
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  So welcome to Break Fix, Kelly and Paige.
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  Woo.
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  Thanks for having us.
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  Wow.
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  What a wonderful intro.
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  Thanks.
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  So why don't we dive deeper into this McRae motocross story?
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  When you check out the website, it sounds like there's some awesome
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  and epic stories, crashes, outfit changes, all sorts of stuff.
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  How did it all start?
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  with a crash.
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  I crashed and ripped my gear, my jersey specifically.
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  So I just wanted to replace my jersey and realized that because it was a couple
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  years old, they no longer sold it online.
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  Like I couldn't find it anywhere.
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  And so I'm like, okay, well now I'm not only just buying a new jersey,
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  I have to buy a new pair of pants.
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  At least for me, I want my stuff to match.
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  And I feel like that's a cross.
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  That's like a cross.
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  I feel like most riders like.
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  You match your gear.
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  And so it just started this conversation between us where I was super frustrated
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  that I had to buy a whole new kit, just because I had a huge rip in my sleeve.
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  We started talking about what our dream Jersey would look like.
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  If I could create any Jersey, what would it be?
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  Animal print for me, it's very natural choice.
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  And so we started sketching that up.
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  And literally, like you said, within I think an hour, we had a name, a
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  slogan, and our first Jersey sketch.
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  And we were like, dude, this, I feel like we should do this.
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  It was kind of a, we're like, I think we're kind of, and all of a
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  sudden we had like a logo and shirts.
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  I was like, Oh, we're doing it.
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  Cause we lived together at the time and we're up in Northern California and our
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  entire living room was just sketches.
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  Like there was all our pencils, paper colored pencils everywhere.
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  Yeah.
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  Do you guys have a background in fashion?
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  Nope.
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  Not like an actual degree or certification.
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  And if you look at like our pictures from like Fifth grade, you would
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  definitely notice we have no style, but we were always involved in
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  like, creative projects growing up.
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  We both took art classes.
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  We would make bags and shirts out of like old clothing.
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  Oh, that's right.
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  I totally forgot that.
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  Yeah.
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  And like, as you get older, you know, in high school, we would keep up with trends.
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  So we like, we like style and whatnot, but we do not have a degree
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  or anything in fashion background.
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  Yeah.
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  So we started riding, learned how to ride when we were younger.
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  And then I think for both of us, at different times, we took time off.
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  Mostly when we were, I think, a little bit older in high
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  school and then went to college.
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  We both went to Sonoma State, so we weren't home.
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  There wasn't something that we did by ourselves.
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  And it wasn't until we both moved back to the area that we really
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  started getting back into it.
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  Made friends that ride that were our own age.
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  We got our, you know, had our own bikes that we could take with us.
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  And all of a sudden we realized.
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  We could do all of this by ourselves.
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  Like, why do we have to be with our dad to do it?
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  Why do we have to be with family or friends?
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  We can ride all on our own.
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  We can take our bikes out by ourselves.
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  And to add to it too, we were like on and off with dirt biking just because
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  our family does so many other sports.
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  Like, each season has its...
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  sport we do.
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  So summers was for wakeboarding and then winters was for skiing and snowboarding,
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  and we always had other stuff going on.
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  And I feel like for racing, you really have to, I mean, it's a full on sport.
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  Like I played soccer, she played softball.
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  Like we know what it means to dedicate.
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  And I just don't know if we'll ever have like the full time and energy to be
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  like full on racers, but we definitely.
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  Want to race in the future.
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  And that's also kind of why it took so long to get to this point, but
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  it's kind of perfect timing, like our age and now just feeling so
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  dedicated to the sport that we want to create a business around it.
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  So growing up sounds like a family affair, but going out there, riding and whatnot,
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  were there other girls that rode with you?
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  Did you ride with other guys?
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  Just you guys like out with the fam by yourself.
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  So, yeah, it was normally our dad and his friends and then his friends sons.
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  And that's how we.
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  Became friends with a lot of our, some of our best friends now was through that.
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  For the most part, we were always the only two girls.
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  There were a couple of rides where some family friends, like a couple, maybe
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  older women would go riding with us.
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  Up until like a year ago, we haven't really had any friends
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  our age that ride that are female.
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  Yeah.
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  That just became very normal for us.
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  Like we didn't even really think about, I mean, it sucked.
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  It was a bummer.
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  Like, man forced us to get really close, you know?
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  Yeah.
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  You know, it's like we just, were always riding with the
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  dudes and that's just how it was.
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  And there wasn't really any other option for, or we didn't see any other option.
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  Um, yeah.
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  And we're very family oriented, so, I mean, of course we had
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  like friends growing up, but our family does a lot too much.
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  Yeah.
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  Together.
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  Like we had ditch out on plans with friends 'cause their dad's like,
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  we're gonna man with the next week.
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  And we'd be like, all right, bye.
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  So I feel like it felt really normal.
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  Now it's like, we're like, Oh my God, there's all these other
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  people that ride at our age.
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  Cause we were used to riding with just our family.
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  It's rare to meet as many people that do as many hobbies as we do and
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  work beyond spoiled with how much that our parents have encouraged
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  us to do and gotten us involved in.
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  So I think we are just like, this is.
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  You know, it's our parents and us that do all this stuff together, but it's
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  awesome to now expand that and through our company, we have found so many
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  other people that like to do what we do.
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  So you guys mentioned that you guys were up in the Northern California area.
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  I've only ever ridden out in California.
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  One time that was down a little bit South of the Fresno area is the
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  terrain up in Northern California.
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  Similar to that, or is it more mountainous or more mountainy, like a lot more Redwood
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  mountain rock, little more single track.
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  I would say a lot more single track.
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  That's probably why we stay away from it.
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  I don't do well on single track.
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  It's too much pressure to keep your tire in a, such a small, we need space.
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  I need space to make a mistake because if I, like, if I veer off, I need to be
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  able to course correct and come back.
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  We're still like, you see that rock and you're like, don't look at the rock.
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  You're going to hit the rock.
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  And I'm like, all I'm doing is looking at the rock and I'll send you off trail.
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  And I'm like, I was that should definitely have to master the art of balance
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  when you're doing trails like that.
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  And we ran into you guys at the mint 400, which is the complete
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  opposite of single track, right?
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  I mean, it's as wide as it can be.
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  The motorcycles have their own thing.
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  I mean, I can't believe how long they were out there.
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  I mean, absolutely all day.
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  Do you guys see yourself maybe one day doing something like
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  the mint 400, something big?
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  Hey, I don't know what's my niche.
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  Not what I thought you were going to say.
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  I don't know if my niche could handle that much.
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  We have some genetics in our family that has given bad niche to Paige.
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  But I really think Why not?
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  Why not?
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  Like you said, we really want to try writing, I think, getting involved.
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  in this.
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  It makes us just want to try new things.
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  We don't want to say no to anything if we haven't tried it.
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  And we are pretty decent writers, I feel like.
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  Not amazing, but like we're definitely willing.
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  I think we surprise people.
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  We're obviously a little.
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  We're eccentric and we're a lot.
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  And I feel like people don't expect us to be on two fifties, which is,
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  we get that a lot, especially at events like the mint 400 and whatnot.
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  And then people go riding with us and they're like, I'm not going to lie.
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  You're a lot better than I
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  thought you were going to be.
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  So why don't we crank up the way back machine a little bit and talk
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  about Paige and Kelly, the young ladies, right before McRae motocross
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  and talk about your experience in dirt bike racing and what seems like
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  hair scramble and some other things.
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  You got into it, honestly, right?
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  Sounds like from your parents and from your dad.
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  So what was that like getting on a bike at 10 years old and then going into racing?
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  We've never raced.
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  Actually.
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  We were going to start racing this year and then we didn't register
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  for the Biltwell 100 in time.
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  Stay tuned.
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  We are going to race eventually.
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  But for us, I think I was in middle school and you're in elementary school.
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  And we came home from school.
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  One day the garage was open.
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  There was a one 50 and a one 10 sitting in the.
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  Garage and we pull up and dad's just like, girls, you can tell
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  that we impersonate our dad a lot.
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  Girls, you're going to learn how to ride dirt bike.
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  And we're like, I don't even know what this is, but sure.
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  And then a couple hours later, this semi truck pulls up in front of our
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  house and this crate gets dropped off.
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  It's a go kart with a roll cage.
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  And dad's like, we're going to.
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  Build it.
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  And by we, he meant him, but we became like a full off road family
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  in a matter of like three days.
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  And I was like, I don't know what this is.
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  Two quick questions.
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  One, the brand of the bikes that were in the garage when you came home that day.
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  And do you still show loyalty to that brand?
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  Or do you not show any brand loyalty for the type of bike you ride?
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  We have show brand loyalty.
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  So the one 50 was a Honda and we are both Honda gals through and through.
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  We've only had Hondas.
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  was a Suzuki.
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  Tell us maybe like one of your most epic stories or one of those
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  adventures that you look back on and go, that was absolutely amazing.
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  Well, cause when you said epic, like the first thing that came to mind
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  is when I crashed into two trees.
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  Yeah.
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  That's what I thought.
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  Okay.
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  But that's not epic.
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  Like, Ooh, that was slick.
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  I went riding with my friends in Gorman, which is I mean, it's Southern California.
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  I'm trying to think of like how to describe where it is.
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  There's some open trail, but there is a lot more single track or
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  like not all technical or single track, but definitely like smaller
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  trails on the side of a mountain.
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  Yeah.
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  I don't know what it was.
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  I think I was just, I didn't know.
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  I didn't know.
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  A little nervous.
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  I think there was a 90 degree hairpin turn that I didn't
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  know was there and I'd hit it.
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  And then, you know, they say like when in doubt, throttle out.
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  Well, I throttled out and I throttled out off the side of the trail
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  and landed in a tree, like went down the hill, landed in a tree.
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  And I like was stuck in the tree to the point where like my feet were on the
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  pegs and I was still sitting upright.
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  Like my bike was sitting upright by itself in the tree.
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  One of my best friends comes over and he's like, damn it, McReynolds.
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  And I was like, when in doubt, throttle out.
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  He's like, now we got to go get everyone to pull your bike up.
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  We have toe straps on our bikes.
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  For these reasons, because we do this a lot.
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  So our dad just put those on there, pulled my bike up, got it out, kept riding.
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  And then probably like 30 minutes later on a different turn on
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  the same trail, I did it again.
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  And this time, like all my plastics bent back.
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  My front plate fell off.
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  We had to disconnect like all the wires and everything.
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  My leg had a bruise, like literally the size from my hip to my knee on it.
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  Cause it was in between the tree.
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  And dad's like, this is why I don't let you guys go by yourselves.
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  Never off road alone.
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  They say, yeah, it was like pretty epic when we wrote in the, I was gonna say
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  when we wrote in the snow, that was like a really cool day that was in Cal city.
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  And we were riding up in the snow and it was just like.
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  a really cool we don't get to do a ride in the snow a lot so it's just different
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  beautiful and really cool and our family was with us so until we fell and there
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  was just snow like stuffed in my helmet and my chest protector someone came like
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  whipping around the corner and so we all like hit our base but it's snowy.
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  So we all like slid and then everyone got up and it was just
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  like snow stuck in your goggles.
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  You're like, well, that was fun day.
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  That was fun day.
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  Yeah.
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  Oftentimes in the four wheeled world, we talk about, you know, these legendary
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  tracks and court places like Laguna Seca, Lamans, and, you know, Rhode,
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  Atlanta, whatever the people that have on their bucket list that they
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  want to go drive their vehicles at.
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  So I wonder for you guys.
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  Is there a trail that you've heard of or a place that you want to go?
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  Maybe like off roading in Alaska or something like that.
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  Is there some sort of epic journey that you guys have on your bucket list
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  that you want to do on your bikes?
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  I have a couple locally for a trail.
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  One of them is called bean Canyon.
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  And the only reason I want to do it is because.
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  All of our friends do it and talk about how hard it is and they're
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  like, you're not ready to go.
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  And I'm like, try me, try me.
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  I'm like, come on, take me out there.
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  I want to try and do it.
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  I know it's hard.
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  I like, I know I'm not going to do it well, but the fact that everyone
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  tells me how hard it is and they're like, Oh, maybe you're not ready.
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  Makes me want to do it even more.
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  Yeah.
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  I feel like bean canning for us.
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  Cause for that reason, also we got to do the Sierra safari.
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  Cause our dad does it.
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  And it's this ride up in mammoth lakes and it's three days.
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  Right.
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  And it's like, It's pretty extensive.
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  My dad's like, you can't before he's like, you guys can't do it.
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  Like it's two, it's three days, 120 miles a day.
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  It's too much.
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  It's too much.
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  It's rocky.
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  We always mess with them.
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  We're like one year, we're going to show up without telling you.
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  And we're going to be like surprised.
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  So I feel like we have to do that.
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  We've just been talking about it for so long.
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  I feel like those are actual.
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  Well, you know what?
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  I don't want to say that.
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  I think everything's tangible, but those, I, I, I think I can see in the much
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  closer future, but I think one thing that would be really awesome is riding,
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  just riding on a super cross track.
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  Like I don't want to ride with, I don't mean anyone else on the track with me.
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  Like I'm not trying to race anyone.
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  Liability reasons.
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  No one else is going to be allowed on the track.
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  For their safety, no one else could be allowed on the track.
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  I think it would be really awesome just to have the opportunity to
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  like ride my bike around the track.
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  Yeah.
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  Just any of the supercross tracks.
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  I don't care which one.
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  And I think at Loretta Lynn's as well.
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  I think that would be really cool just to say I rode my bike around
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  the track at Loretta Lynn's.
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  Yeah.
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  We generally don't get too many two wheel enthusiasts on the
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  show and we're aiming to correct that by getting more individuals.
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  Such as yourselves on.
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  So a lot of times we often ask questions like, what's your thought on the sexiest
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  car of all time, ugliest car of all time.
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  But in your guys case for motorcycles, what is your favorite bike, sexiest
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  bike, worst bike you've ever ridden?
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  Things like that.
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  I mean, have you seen our bikes?
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  I was going to say, I feel like if we say anything other than our own
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  bikes, then we're out of, we got to go.
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  We're done.
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  We to
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  like, I think our bikes.
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  are cool just because we have McRae graphics on them and they match
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  other than our numbers, but like we have our butterfly on it and
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  the McRae logo and use our colors.
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  But then we also have our individual seats.
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  So my seat is leopard print and Kelly's is sparkly gold.
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  We call it the Dolly Parton seat.
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  So I, yeah, I mean, you know, I look at our bikes and I'm like, she looks good.
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  That's my baby.
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  So there's, there's no like three bay bucket list.
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  Like you want a Ducati and a triumph and you know, whatever in your
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  garage, you know, in your collection of motorcycles, nothing like that.
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  We did recently go to a street motorcycle event and we kind of were
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  thinking like maybe a pair of Harleys would be really cool collection.
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  I was looking at this like 1973 street Honda.
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  I was like.
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  That's a pretty sweet, but it's on Craigslist.
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  I got her saved.
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  So, you know, I feel like we got to come back to that one.
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  We'll check back in with you.
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  I mean, cause dirt bikes, we got to stick with Honda through and through the rest
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  of our lives, Honda, but street bikes will come back because our family's like
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  not big on our mom works in insurance.
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  So for her street bike, she's like, nope, liability, but maybe now that
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  we're older, you know, and we're just.
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  met that community of women that ride street bikes.
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  And it was just very cool.
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  And we've rode our dirt bikes just like on the street in the neighborhood.
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  I'm like, man, I could just like, I can see myself do this.
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  Yeah.
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  So it's something we might be entertaining.
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  I thought we're entertaining soon.
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  So we should probably go back to talking about what this episode is
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  about, which is McRae motocross.
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  I gotta say, I love the whole slogan.
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  It's what got my attention, which is the design to get dirty.
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  I just love that.
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  And the quote on the website really kind of sets the stage.
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  Shopping for women's MoTex gear can be frustrating and disappointing.
• 16:06
  The prints are undesirable.
• 16:07
  The fit is terrible.
• 16:08
  We hear you.
• 16:09
  We are you.
• 16:11
  You know, they say necessity breeds invention.
• 16:13
  necessity begets a business.
• 16:15
  So let's talk more about the products you offer, how they're
• 16:19
  designed, how they're different, you know, and those kinds of things.
• 16:21
  What are, what are you putting out there?
• 16:22
  You know, really focusing on, we have street apparel.
• 16:25
  That's what's currently available on our website.
• 16:27
  I think our street apparel is awesome, but that's definitely like, that
• 16:29
  was not the focus of this business.
• 16:31
  Our main focus is women's motocross kits.
• 16:34
  So the jerseys and pants that you wear when you ride for us,
• 16:37
  like the Jersey specifically.
• 16:39
  So, We made a lot of technical enhancements to the jerseys that
• 16:42
  we feel like make them better suited for a female rider.
• 16:46
  So designs alone are just like nothing we've ever seen before in
• 16:50
  the motocross or off road industry.
• 16:52
  You know, tailoring the sides so that it fits a woman's natural
• 16:56
  curves a little bit more.
• 16:57
  Shortening the hem so that they don't go down to our knees and like bunch up
• 17:00
  when we try to tuck them into our pants.
• 17:02
  And then we came up with a snap design.
• 17:05
  So on the front of the jersey, there's.
• 17:06
  Four snaps on each side of the front and you open them up so you can pull them
• 17:09
  over your gear without it getting stuck on anything on any of your protectors.
• 17:14
  And then you just snap them closed.
• 17:15
  And then for the pants, same idea.
• 17:17
  Like we made a lot of technical enhancements.
• 17:19
  We basically just, we took what we had and we're like, Hey, what do we like about
• 17:23
  this and what do we not like about this?
• 17:25
  And we asked a lot of our friends, a lot of the women writers we've
• 17:28
  met over the past couple of years.
• 17:29
  And we're like, what is your ideal pair of pants?
• 17:31
  And so higher waisted, more stretch panels, like women's pants.
• 17:36
  I think.
• 17:36
  Sometimes our friends and other companies think like it's for women.
• 17:39
  It needs to be skin tight.
• 17:40
  And it's like, I don't want to wear skin tight clothing while I'm riding.
• 17:44
  That's not comfortable.
• 17:45
  And so that's what we're focused on.
• 17:47
  That's what sets us apart.
• 17:48
  I mean, again, I think our apparel is cool, but at the day, like it's.
• 17:52
  It's a pair.
• 17:52
  It's a pair.
• 17:53
  You have a huge challenge in front of you because let's face it.
• 17:56
  Men's sizes and cuts are pretty standard.
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  Large, extra large, 2XL.
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  Then you got your 36, 38, whatever size you are and you're in seam.
• 18:04
  And it's pretty basic, right?
• 18:05
  But women come in, I hate to say, all shapes and sizes.
• 18:08
  So you guys have to have like just a mountain of challenges
• 18:11
  ahead of you to say, Yeah.
• 18:12
  What works, what doesn't, and to your point, stretch panels, isn't that to
• 18:15
  make a size sort of work for people?
• 18:17
  So how have you overcome that?
• 18:20
  Yeah, you know, on one hand, we, we want to be as inclusive as possible
• 18:24
  for everyone in the community.
• 18:25
  And I think another big thing for us is there might be women who aren't.
• 18:28
  in the community yet, but they don't feel like that there's a place for them.
• 18:32
  And so we want to create, we want to open that door for other women to see the
• 18:36
  industry and to see us and our company and be like, okay, I can do this too.
• 18:39
  Like I can go buy a bike.
• 18:40
  I can learn how to work on it.
• 18:42
  I can do all this stuff by myself.
• 18:43
  And so all that being said, we want to be extremely inclusive, but
• 18:46
  there is only so much we can do.
• 18:48
  within our budget and our first run.
• 18:50
  And so for the first run of pants specifically, cause I think we
• 18:54
  will run into more hurdles with the pants than the jerseys.
• 18:57
  We did what we felt was standard sizing.
• 19:00
  So small through extra large based on our sizes.
• 19:03
  And we feel like we're pretty like standard in terms of we're
• 19:06
  not at one extreme or the other.
• 19:07
  And so we kind of use that.
• 19:09
  starting point.
• 19:10
  And, you know, we just ask for patience from everyone else that it will take some
• 19:14
  time and a little bit of extra cashflow to, to get those additional sizes.
• 19:19
  And we have a lot of ideas about, okay, these are going to be our
• 19:22
  super durable waterproof pants.
• 19:24
  And then we're going to have a pair of extremely comfortable.
• 19:28
  Soft canvas pants that are tailored maybe more to the ladies who like to
• 19:32
  sit around the campfire as much as they like to like put around on their bikes.
• 19:35
  And so we have ideas where you're going to create products that fit
• 19:39
  everyone and everyone's not only just fit physically, but style and needs.
• 19:44
  We just need a little bit of time to build that inventory.
• 19:47
  We just have to take it one day at a time, honestly, like we do have a
• 19:50
  lot of ideas and not just for this.
• 19:53
  but for other sports to include women.
• 19:55
  And so starting with one pair of gray pants, and then we want to hear critiques.
• 19:59
  We want to hear what other women have to say like, Hey, this didn't fit my body.
• 20:01
  And this is why great.
• 20:03
  We want to hear it.
• 20:04
  So then when we bring out new pants, we want to one day be able to provide it.
• 20:07
  So I can fit as many body types as possible.
• 20:10
  And like Paige said, too, with the street wear and also what other
• 20:13
  things we'll be bringing out, we're hoping to include women who.
• 20:15
  are like diehard riders and want to get out there and get into racing, but
• 20:19
  also other like women that do want to just chill at the campfire and maybe
• 20:22
  like ride in a razor or something.
• 20:24
  Like we want everyone to feel welcome in this community.
• 20:27
  And you're a hundred percent right.
• 20:29
  Because the challenges exist also in the four wheel community, where
• 20:32
  if you look at women's driving suits, the Nomex suits and things
• 20:35
  like that, it's all just super boxy.
• 20:37
  And I hate to say I'm flattering.
• 20:39
  You're starting to see.
• 20:40
  Some color palette changes, but in terms of cut and finish, it's just the
• 20:44
  same old kind of banana suit that we all zip on like onesies or whatever.
• 20:48
  It's terrible.
• 20:49
  I mean, the guys ones aren't any better, right?
• 20:51
  They're not form fitting or really tailored in any way either.
• 20:53
  They're just boxes.
• 20:54
  Basically careless guys just care.
• 20:58
  They don't care.
• 20:59
  We just, we want cool patches all over our stuff.
• 21:01
  Like it's, you know, stroke stroke race, like Burt Reynolds, you know what I mean?
• 21:06
  And my existence.
• 21:07
  And we've gotten this question because, you know, I think for so long, there's
• 21:11
  only been a handful of companies in the off road industry that people can name
• 21:15
  off the top of their head and they all look the same, no offense to any of them,
• 21:18
  but they do, they all look the same.
• 21:19
  And so when we started coming out with our stuff, we've shown a couple
• 21:23
  snippets of our jerseys and our pants, and some of our friends have seen it and
• 21:26
  people are very quick to tell us like.
• 21:28
  You don't have your name on it.
• 21:29
  You don't have your logo on it.
• 21:30
  What about your sponsors?
• 21:31
  Well, what, when you race, what are you going to do?
• 21:34
  And I'm like, hold on, excuse.
• 21:35
  That is literally what we're trying not to do.
• 21:37
  Like, I don't care.
• 21:38
  I don't, my ego doesn't need 15 logos up my arms to make me
• 21:42
  feel better about myself riding.
• 21:44
  Like we put a very simple butterfly logo on our chest and that is the
• 21:47
  only logo that will be on our jerseys to your point, like, I feel like
• 21:51
  guys like get really stoked on that.
• 21:52
  Like all the logo, all the brands that they're wearing and they're like.
• 21:55
  Look who I'm wearing.
• 21:56
  Look at this.
• 21:56
  And like for women, I'm like, I just want to look cute.
• 21:59
  I don't care.
• 22:00
  The sport is really intimidating again into like this huge piece of machinery.
• 22:04
  You're sitting on it and now you're trying to go over rocks
• 22:06
  and sand and technical terrain.
• 22:07
  I mean, it's already intimidating enough.
• 22:09
  Slap on a bunch of like big company logos and stuff.
• 22:12
  It can look scary.
• 22:13
  So I think we are trying to bridge that gap where it's like, if that maybe is a
• 22:17
  little overwhelming, then we're the brand for you where it's really just like.
• 22:20
  We've got good looking stuff that's durable.
• 22:23
  And it's not so overwhelming in pattern.
• 22:25
  It's like very just, we call it our free baby, free moto baby, because we love
• 22:30
  free people styles, which is a clothing brand and it's a lot of like organic, like
• 22:33
  florals and neon and stuff, but it's very different than what's in the moto world.
• 22:38
  And so we're introducing that.
• 22:39
  So it's helps women be like.
• 22:41
  That's really cute.
• 22:42
  I actually would just like to wear that.
• 22:44
  It kind of looks like a long sleeve I have.
• 22:45
  That's kind of the point.
• 22:46
  It's like this comfortability, this familiarity with something that's already
• 22:49
  in their closet, but just in a different way that can attract them to the sport.
• 22:53
  Makes it a little less eerie.
• 22:54
  So let's also talk just for a moment about safety, right?
• 22:57
  Because that's always a concern in every mode of sport.
• 22:59
  People that we talk to all the time, and we've had some other safety gear
• 23:03
  providers on, you know, obviously in the four wheeled community.
• 23:05
  So one of the things that comes up, the durability of the clothing,
• 23:08
  like you said, waterproofing is something that's important.
• 23:10
  to you guys in the motocross world, but also fireproofing.
• 23:14
  So how much of this gear is Nomex rated?
• 23:17
  How do you get it certified?
• 23:18
  Things like that.
• 23:19
  And I also wonder, are you also faced with the challenge of making your apparel
• 23:23
  work with the safety gear that exists, like the padding and like you talked about
• 23:27
  the chest plates and things like that.
• 23:28
  So how does all that work together with the McRae line of apparel?
• 23:32
  I would just like to say that we are not certified.
• 23:35
  We are not selling any form of.
• 23:37
  Protective gear.
• 23:38
  We do not claim that our jerseys or pants will protect you from any
• 23:42
  sort of harm bodily play anything.
• 23:45
  Like we're not like our gear does not do that.
• 23:48
  We're just guaranteeing you look good.
• 23:50
  It says it on the tag, but I've had plenty of name brand apparel, and I
• 23:55
  will say that it is not hold up the heat and fire and stuff because I had
• 23:59
  plenty I'm getting melted and stuff.
• 24:00
  So I'll just throw that out there for you.
• 24:01
  So I appreciate that.
• 24:03
  Thank you.
• 24:04
  Yeah.
• 24:04
  You know, we've done our research and especially I think for the pants.
• 24:07
  To try to find the best materials possible that we think will work.
• 24:11
  And so we're not using a leather, but sometimes there's a leather
• 24:14
  patch or a dilemma or something on the side of your leg.
• 24:16
  That's the leg.
• 24:17
  That's especially the one that sits next to all your pipes
• 24:20
  and your motor and whatnot.
• 24:21
  We took all the fabric samples and hung them on, you know, the hangers
• 24:24
  that have the little clips on them.
• 24:26
  And I turned my bike on and I ran my bike.
• 24:28
  For like 20 minutes.
• 24:29
  And I hung the hanger next to that with all the fabric samples and just
• 24:33
  let them sit a centimeter from the hot pipe for about 15, 20 minutes.
• 24:37
  And we'd like pulled everything up and some of them had started belting.
• 24:40
  So we were like, that one's out.
• 24:41
  Some of them held up really well.
• 24:43
  And we're like, okay, that one, that's a good option.
• 24:46
  So we have done our research in terms of.
• 24:49
  Trying to use the best material, because obviously we want
• 24:52
  to use stuff that holds up.
• 24:53
  We don't want it to rip in the first wear.
• 24:55
  We don't want it to start melting, you know, just because your leg
• 24:58
  is sitting next to the pipe.
• 25:00
  And so all that being said, we're doing our best.
• 25:02
  I know I'm sure as we grow and as we are in the industry more and
• 25:06
  talk to more people and start to see different types of materials, like.
• 25:10
  I'm sure our pants will evolve and change.
• 25:12
  I hope they do.
• 25:13
  It'd be cool if like our only pair of pants just like crushes it.
• 25:16
  And we're like, great, that's awesome.
• 25:18
  But we will always continue to evolve.
• 25:20
  We wouldn't be doing our jobs right if we weren't, but we do come across some,
• 25:24
  I don't necessarily know if they're like problems, but we do have to keep
• 25:28
  in mind like what already exists.
• 25:29
  So do these pants, like the bottom of our pants, are they
• 25:32
  stretchy enough to accommodate?
• 25:34
  existing knee pads, but without being too tight.
• 25:36
  Like if someone wanted to wear padded shorts under their pants,
• 25:39
  like do our pants allow for that kind of movement in that room?
• 25:42
  And same with our jerseys for anyone who wears like the
• 25:44
  different sizes of protective gear.
• 25:46
  Like those are all things that we have to take into account.
• 25:48
  And we went through several samples, like having to change materials and
• 25:52
  make adjustments for this reason.
• 25:54
  So we've been through materials and we've now come to this last
• 25:57
  one, especially with our pants that we're like, This is durable.
• 25:59
  This is what people need.
• 26:00
  This is what we want to wear.
• 26:02
  We've had to go through it though.
• 26:03
  We've had to make some changes and especially after doing research,
• 26:06
  realizing some materials won't work and these ones are better.
• 26:08
  And then actually using materials from different sports on our pins.
• 26:11
  We're like, this is actually going to work way better, particularly from a woman's
• 26:15
  body to like certain stretch panels.
• 26:17
  We've put in that work ourselves to make sure that it's going to fit.
• 26:20
  Over our protective gear and also hold up while riding and
• 26:23
  whatnot during certain weather.
• 26:24
  And I think what's cool, our manufacturer has never made motocross pants, either
• 26:29
  motocross gear, which we were a little nervous about at first, but I think
• 26:32
  it actually works in our favor because we don't know what we don't know and
• 26:35
  they don't know what they don't know.
• 26:36
  So we don't have anyone telling us.
• 26:38
  Well, this is how everyone else does it.
• 26:40
  This is how it's always been done.
• 26:41
  Like we don't have anyone telling us that what we're doing is wrong, which
• 26:45
  again, on one, like we, we welcome feedback if something is visibly
• 26:48
  wrong with our product, like we would obviously want to know, but we have
• 26:52
  out of the box ideas and what we're doing is out of the box and to have.
• 26:55
  A manufacturer say, Oh, you want something durable and strong and breathable.
• 26:59
  Here are your fabric options.
• 27:00
  And it's not based on what anyone else in the industry is doing.
• 27:04
  It's just based purely on what we're looking for in our materials.
• 27:07
  On the need.
• 27:08
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 27:09
  The sky's the limit here, right?
• 27:10
  You're starting with the outerwear and like you're talking about
• 27:12
  the pants and the jerseys.
• 27:13
  And like that, but I could obviously see this going into undergarments.
• 27:16
  I could see it going into gloves, maybe shoes, even maybe let's,
• 27:19
  let's dream big helmets, right?
• 27:22
  Goggles got to be coordinated all the way through.
• 27:25
  That's really cool.
• 27:26
  But to your point, you have to crawl before you walk, before you run.
• 27:29
  A lot of times when we have companies on to highlight their business and such, we
• 27:32
  ask them what's in the name and to give us information regarding that, or for
• 27:36
  you guys with something that's really significant is your logo, the butterfly.
• 27:40
  So what is the importance and meaning behind the butterfly?
• 27:43
  To make a long story short.
• 27:44
  Well, I don't know.
• 27:45
  Do you want the long story or make a short story long?
• 27:47
  Let's go for it.
• 27:49
  Yeah.
• 27:49
  When we first partnered with a graphic designer and a brand developer, when
• 27:53
  we had this idea, we specifically said, we don't want anything girly.
• 27:57
  We don't want butterfly polka dots flower.
• 27:59
  I don't know what else we said, like stars, like just nothing girly.
• 28:02
  Because at the time in our mind, we didn't want to be so obviously
• 28:07
  different that it would deter people from supporting our brands.
• 28:10
  We wanted our brand to kind of just.
• 28:12
  Fit in with the rest hindsight.
• 28:14
  We were very wrong.
• 28:15
  We don't want that at all, but not doing that at all.
• 28:18
  So, you know, if we felt like the women's options that do exist in the market,
• 28:22
  currently it is a very specific look, it's a very specific vibe and we just
• 28:27
  don't necessarily resonate with that.
• 28:28
  And so we wanted to try to stay away from that.
• 28:30
  Well, fast forward, he came back to us with the logo that we're
• 28:33
  both wearing on our shirts.
• 28:34
  And we were like, and it has little handlebars on the side and
• 28:37
  we're like, we really like it.
• 28:38
  But it's not our logo.
• 28:39
  And he's like, okay, what do you want?
• 28:41
  And so we sent a couple more sketches and we did it separately.
• 28:44
  And he came back to us and he's like, both of the sketches that you
• 28:46
  send me have butterflies in them.
• 28:48
  And we're like, Hmm, interesting that you didn't want, you didn't want
• 28:52
  butterflies, but now you want butterflies.
• 28:54
  Yeah, we didn't know we wanted them apparently.
• 28:57
  And I like, we're a headache.
• 28:58
  We know we're, we're a lot, but like, I mean, and so he came back to us with.
• 29:03
  Our logo, the butterfly, it's ombre, the orange and yellow.
• 29:06
  And we just immediately looked at each other.
• 29:09
  We were like, that's it.
• 29:10
  And for a lot of reasons, butterflies have a meaning in our family, special meaning.
• 29:15
  I have two of them tattooed on my side.
• 29:16
  I don't know why I didn't think of that sooner, but I'm like, I, I have
• 29:19
  two butterflies tattooed on my side.
• 29:20
  Like that's how much they mean to us.
• 29:21
  Our mom loves butterflies.
• 29:23
  So I feel like that has had an influence as well, like our interest
• 29:27
  in them, just being their beauty.
• 29:28
  And I don't know, there's something really pleasant when
• 29:30
  a butterfly's around and now it.
• 29:32
  So it kind of started that we're like, wow, it's really cool.
• 29:34
  It's got like this family thing behind it, but now it's cultivated into this
• 29:37
  new meaning for us that we have undergone so much transformation over our lives.
• 29:43
  You know, truly, you know, starting as a caterpillar, if you saw pictures of us
• 29:46
  from like middle elementary school, you'd be like, Oh yeah, caterpillar, you guys.
• 29:52
  Rough years.
• 29:53
  Um, there is this form of transformation that comes with a butterfly and especially
• 29:56
  starting this business together.
• 29:58
  Our relationship has transformed so much and we're kind of spreading our
• 30:02
  wings and finding our way and really embracing our own authenticity.
• 30:06
  But then what we bring to the table together, definitely.
• 30:09
  And we.
• 30:10
  couldn't do it because of that yin and yang style we have.
• 30:13
  That's really what makes this business what it is.
• 30:15
  Like, I don't think it would have the same success if it was only one of us.
• 30:19
  It's just been interesting how that's now, like, it's turned into this thing
• 30:21
  where it's really about transformation and how we hope, too, that people see the
• 30:25
  butterfly and they're like, You know what?
• 30:27
  I can make that change today and be the woman I want to be
• 30:30
  or be the girl I want to be.
• 30:31
  And I can like start that change now.
• 30:33
  We're hoping that this butterfly can be a representation of being bold, being
• 30:37
  courageous, getting on that dirt bike, going fishing with the boys, getting
• 30:41
  your girls to go out fishing with them.
• 30:42
  You know, like I, we really hope that when you look at our butterfly
• 30:45
  and everything that it embodies.
• 30:47
  That's what you feel.
• 30:48
  I'll say I can definitely have a strong appreciation for you guys trying to
• 30:51
  get women into the sports because for years, being a father of a little
• 30:55
  girl, when she was first born, my aspiration was for her to become the
• 30:59
  first professional motocross rider, but I don't think it's going to happen,
• 31:02
  but she still likes to go out and ride.
• 31:04
  We'll sponsor her.
• 31:06
  If she does, we will sponsor her.
• 31:07
  Absolutely.
• 31:09
  I've seen, like you were mentioning earlier with road bikes and stuff.
• 31:12
  I've noticed in probably the past, a much larger presence with
• 31:15
  women coming out riding because I ride street bikes as well.
• 31:18
  I love seeing more women involved in it because if there's more women involved in
• 31:22
  it, and like Eric was mentioning earlier, we're trying to spread the enthusiasm
• 31:25
  across all spectrum of motorsports.
• 31:27
  And one of the key areas is the youth and women, in my opinion,
• 31:29
  to get them more involved.
• 31:31
  So what you guys are doing, I applaud it because I really see the need
• 31:35
  And I think there's a quote on the website, if you don't mind me stealing
• 31:38
  yet another one, because it leads me into my next point that kind
• 31:42
  of summarizes this whole thought.
• 31:44
  And it reads the butterfly symbolizes everything women are
• 31:48
  and who we hope to become bold.
• 31:51
  Beautiful, elegant, unique, and transformational that
• 31:54
  really resonated with me.
• 31:55
  And I think it's very true.
• 31:57
  And it, but it also speaks to your guys creativity and the writing on the website.
• 32:02
  I think this is something that goes unappreciated about the McRae motocross
• 32:06
  website, because there's a lot of these like golden nuggets in the blogs
• 32:10
  and on just simple things like the about us page, you know, where you're
• 32:14
  giving people these titles, like, you know, VP of treat distribution and
• 32:17
  all this fun stuff and it, it's super engaging and it makes me want to read.
• 32:21
  More and stay on the site and do all these kinds of things.
• 32:24
  So, you know, you guys are very multi talented.
• 32:27
  You're very clever.
• 32:28
  And I think it speaks across the board in terms of the brand and what you guys are
• 32:32
  doing and thinking outside of the box.
• 32:33
  So I really got to applaud you guys for that.
• 32:36
  Actually, Paige is responsible for the website.
• 32:40
  1000%.
• 32:41
  I mean, too, you're asking like, Oh, do you guys have a background in fashion?
• 32:44
  Nope.
• 32:45
  And we're not racers.
• 32:46
  We don't have a background in these things.
• 32:48
  Paige was anything that we're doing.
• 32:50
  And I honestly think that gives us a leg up in a lot of ways.
• 32:52
  She was a communication major.
• 32:54
  So you can see from our website, Paige writes beautifully when she
• 32:57
  would write all my speeches for stuff.
• 32:59
  She really knows how to grab someone's attention in that sense.
• 33:03
  And so that's her background.
• 33:04
  She also has worked in like corporate America with
• 33:06
  different companies and whatnot.
• 33:08
  And then I was a psych back.
• 33:13
  I was in psychology and I was working as a counselor for
• 33:16
  several different populations.
• 33:17
  And so those things combined kind of give us a different edge that we're
• 33:22
  not just two girls on dirt bikes.
• 33:23
  Sure.
• 33:23
  You know, we know how to ride a dirt bike and we can ride a wakeboard,
• 33:26
  like we can do all of these things and be a face that woman can look at
• 33:29
  and be like, okay, they can do it.
• 33:30
  I can do it.
• 33:31
  But at the same time.
• 33:32
  That's awesome.
• 33:32
  I think part of our blog too, is that we're a lot more than that.
• 33:35
  We're a lot more than two athletes.
• 33:37
  We think deeply about life and about the world around us and supporting our
• 33:40
  community and uplifting other women.
• 33:42
  And I think that comes from having that background in the majors that
• 33:45
  we had in the way we were raised.
• 33:47
  Her introverted self couldn't handle anymore.
• 33:49
  She was like, and I'm done and close.
• 33:52
  Um, well, I think to add onto that, there has been a lot of push for
• 33:57
  supporting women, businesses and women empowerment over the past couple of years.
• 34:00
  And.
• 34:00
  So what's really important for us is we don't want to just be another trend.
• 34:04
  Like I think we started the company at the perfect time.
• 34:06
  Like we really nailed it with timing in terms of what's happening in history,
• 34:10
  but we don't want to just talk about it.
• 34:11
  We don't want to just tell women to be authentic, live yourself, transform
• 34:16
  into your highest power, like stuff like the cliche stuff that you hear all the
• 34:19
  time, because while we do want that, we realized that in order to actually
• 34:23
  inspire and empower women to do those things, we have to do those things.
• 34:27
  We have to be those things as well.
• 34:29
  Through that, you know, we've learned starting this company, like we just try
• 34:32
  to be as honest and open as possible, like pushing ourselves out of our
• 34:36
  comfort zone on our blogs and on our YouTube video and on social media.
• 34:39
  Like we just try to be as authentically ourselves as possible, so to
• 34:44
  hopefully inspire other women.
• 34:46
  Oh, okay.
• 34:47
  Like I can be kind of weird and quirky and still be funny and like I can put on
• 34:50
  social media and no one's gonna judge me.
• 34:52
  And if they do, who cares?
• 34:53
  Yeah.
• 34:53
  I just think that's a big thing for us is.
• 34:55
  If we're going to not just talk about it, but be about it and hopefully embody the
• 35:00
  things that we blog about and do those.
• 35:03
  And I think the bigger difference is when you look at your guy's website
• 35:06
  versus a lot of other ones that are out there, you can tell it's the
• 35:10
  same level of professionalism you'd expect from any website today, but
• 35:14
  there's a sense of realness there.
• 35:16
  And there's a sense of you guys coming through.
• 35:18
  that you realize very quickly, this was not written by some guy in a cubicle
• 35:24
  who cranks out 50 of these a day.
• 35:26
  And it's just regurgitating the same stuff.
• 35:28
  It's like, this is legit.
• 35:29
  This is for real.
• 35:30
  And it speaks to both of you guys.
• 35:32
  And so again, I found it to be a lot of fun and I'm looking forward to whatever
• 35:35
  the next blog post is that comes out.
• 35:37
  I also want to turn this around because you hit on my next.
• 35:39
  Really important point, you know, talking about doing it rather than saying it,
• 35:44
  being that beacon, being that role model, being the hero for young ladies.
• 35:48
  And so I wonder if a young girl walked up to you today and said, why do you race?
• 35:52
  Why do you do this?
• 35:53
  What would you say?
• 35:54
  We've had a couple of instances where young girls have come
• 35:58
  up to our booth and it's.
• 35:59
  It has made us cry.
• 36:01
  Um, I mean, the guy like Terry talking about it now, it has made us cry
• 36:04
  because they're so excited about seeing something so cool and beautiful, like a
• 36:08
  butterfly, but then it's also for women, like just how excited little girls get.
• 36:13
  It just like, that's why we started this.
• 36:14
  And we talked about, you know, when our stuff is in stores.
• 36:18
  We picture a young girl walking in with her family and like in
• 36:21
  traditional American fashion, like the family walks in, they're
• 36:25
  looking to buy stuff for their son.
• 36:26
  And the little girl sees the big butterfly logo.
• 36:29
  And she's like, there's stuff for me too.
• 36:30
  I can ride.
• 36:31
  I can do this sport.
• 36:32
  That's a huge part of why we do what we do.
• 36:35
  And I think selfishly we do it because it makes me feel confident and powerful.
• 36:40
  Like when I'm taking my bike out by myself or, you know, I'm throwing
• 36:44
  this 300 piece of machine around, like, I feel really good about myself.
• 36:48
  And I'm like, I know I can do anything.
• 36:50
  I can conquer anything.
• 36:52
  Selflessly, why we started this is to help others feel the same way.
• 36:55
  Is to help young women and young girls, or of all ages, to be totally honest.
• 36:59
  Like, I think it's never too late to start something new or to make a change
• 37:03
  or do something different in your life.
• 37:05
  And it's just to make them feel like they also have a place
• 37:08
  and that it's not too late.
• 37:09
  Only thing I had to add to that was Everything you said, of course, and then
• 37:13
  I think something we reflect on is, I'll be having not such a great day and I'll
• 37:17
  just be like, God, I don't feel beautiful.
• 37:19
  I don't feel like I'm enough.
• 37:21
  And why would this person be interested in me?
• 37:23
  I don't even know if these people like me.
• 37:25
  I'll be having these negative thoughts and I'll check in with myself for a second.
• 37:28
  I'm like, hold on a second.
• 37:29
  Like I can kick butt on a dirt bike.
• 37:31
  I can get it on a trailer by myself.
• 37:33
  I can tie that thing up and get out there.
• 37:35
  And I can jump on a wakeboard and I can do all these things.
• 37:37
  Like there's something about like getting involved in these sports that we think
• 37:42
  is like so important to just find your thing that you like, because there
• 37:45
  is something so empowering about it.
• 37:46
  And then I like check them because I'm like, I'm just kidding.
• 37:48
  I'm a bad ass lady.
• 37:50
  I feel like worthy again.
• 37:51
  And I, it's, there is something very cool about that.
• 37:54
  And we're hoping as we've done that with each other, we check it.
• 37:57
  Sometimes she'll be having a bad day and I'm like, listen, you're a bad ass lady.
• 38:00
  You're the whole package.
• 38:02
  We do it for each other all the time.
• 38:02
  I'm like, this brand is our life.
• 38:05
  Like that's why, you know, you're seeing it on our website that it doesn't
• 38:07
  sound like someone else wrote it.
• 38:09
  It's cause it's not, and this brand is really us sharing our lives and how we
• 38:12
  live and what we think with everyone else.
• 38:15
  Cause I think it's so important to share.
• 38:17
  To borrow a phrase, you guys are sending it.
• 38:19
  So like the full extent, right?
• 38:21
  So I love it.
• 38:22
  I love it.
• 38:24
  To add to that, you mentioned you have a psychology background.
• 38:27
  The past two years with the whole COVID and all that has been
• 38:31
  very stressful for everybody.
• 38:32
  And I see it extremely stressful for females.
• 38:35
  Like you were mentioning, you think about the fact you out there on a bike
• 38:38
  and slinging around, like it's nothing hitting them, jumps, hitting them, pervs.
• 38:42
  And it brings that emotions.
• 38:44
  For me.
• 38:45
  I've always thought that, you know, it's a great spirit lifter and I think
• 38:48
  it's just really good in that aspect.
• 38:50
  Yeah.
• 38:51
  And you can't think about anything else when you're on dirt bike, you
• 38:53
  are focusing on what you're doing.
• 38:55
  So there is that little bit of a perspective check.
• 38:58
  Like you might be having a bad day.
• 38:59
  There might be a lot on your mind.
• 39:00
  You jump on a dirt bike, ride around, you come back, you're like, I don't even.
• 39:03
  Like, my problems are kind of flown away with the dust behind me, you
• 39:06
  know, there's just nothing else you have to think about but the trail.
• 39:09
  There's something very therapeutic about that.
• 39:11
  That's what clears your mind.
• 39:12
  Yeah.
• 39:13
  Do you have a bad day when you're out in the desert, like camping
• 39:15
  with your friends in the desert?
• 39:16
  Well, like a crash.
• 39:17
  But I feel like even that, like even that, it's like you might have a bad crash or
• 39:21
  something happens, but it's kind of, it's pretty impossible to have a bad day when
• 39:25
  you're out with a bunch of your friends.
• 39:27
  Sitting by a campfire, everyone's having a good time, like laughing, telling
• 39:31
  stories, playing cornhole, like the entire community around it, the entire vibe.
• 39:35
  And now we're in a place like most of our friends are in this community and it's
• 39:39
  like, that's all like I could just normal.
• 39:41
  Yeah.
• 39:42
  It's normal.
• 39:43
  Yeah.
• 39:43
  And even with, even with the days that you have bad crashes or stuff, when you're
• 39:46
  back at the campfire and everybody's.
• 39:48
  You know, safe.
• 39:49
  Nobody was injured.
• 39:50
  That's when it turns into laughing time.
• 39:53
  Erica mentioned I've had my share rising from our guys and events.
• 39:56
  So it increases the mood.
• 39:58
  It makes all I'm going to say is we have video to prove it and I'm
• 40:01
  going to leave it where it is.
• 40:03
  Hey, you know what?
• 40:03
  Ain't nothing a little Captain Morgan can't fix, right?
• 40:07
  You come back from the campfire.
• 40:08
  And as we've said, probably a million times, if we said it once,
• 40:12
  the worst day at the track is still better than any day anywhere else.
• 40:15
  So it's all good.
• 40:17
  Right?
• 40:18
  So, so going back to their thought, I want to get your guys opinion on something.
• 40:22
  A lot of people often confuse.
• 40:24
  Motorsports with being like super geeky and really nerdy.
• 40:28
  Like you need to be an engineer.
• 40:30
  You need to be in STEM or hard sciences to really get involved.
• 40:33
  And you guys are ingenious.
• 40:35
  You're resourceful and work on your own bikes.
• 40:37
  Is it really as hard as people make it out to be?
• 40:39
  Yes and no.
• 40:41
  Like we do the bare minimum on our bikes, but we have a vice
• 40:44
  president of bike operations, AKA our dad to do those things.
• 40:48
  Like if you asked me to take my bike apart.
• 40:50
  And dad's not an engineer.
• 40:51
  Let me just say that right now.
• 40:52
  He can work on a bike, but he is not an engineer.
• 40:55
  He's a redneck engineer.
• 40:56
  Yeah.
• 40:57
  The best kind.
• 40:58
  Exactly.
• 41:00
  And I would honestly love to get to learn more about working on my bike
• 41:04
  as we're growing in this company.
• 41:06
  That's something that I realized I want to.
• 41:08
  Not necessarily like be better at, but just take more time and put more effort
• 41:11
  into learning more of the intricacies and the ins and outs of my bike.
• 41:14
  Cause I feel like prior to this company, it's just been like oil
• 41:17
  chain, air filter, okay, get on ride.
• 41:20
  But I think really understanding the carb and the gas and how everything works
• 41:24
  together, that makes a huge difference in the relationship that I have with my bike.
• 41:28
  We're very lucky.
• 41:29
  We're very fortunate that we have a dad who does know how to do
• 41:32
  that stuff and does work on it.
• 41:33
  But you don't have to know someone like that to own a bike.
• 41:37
  There are shops that will do all of that for you.
• 41:39
  Like you can just take your bike to them and be like, I don't know what happened.
• 41:42
  And I like, I think it's important to know.
• 41:44
  I think it's important to know the basics and basic maintenance, but I also, that's
• 41:47
  part of the approachability and people get really scared of the sport because it
• 41:51
  does seem really daunting and expensive and you have to have all this knowledge.
• 41:54
  And I would argue that.
• 41:56
  You don't like in, in anything that you do, there's always someone
• 41:59
  you can pay to do it for you.
• 42:00
  And so I think it's kind of whatever you put in is what you're going to get out.
• 42:04
  And of course, like there is a level of engineering though,
• 42:07
  to working on your bike.
• 42:08
  I don't want to take, I bet you don't have to be an engineer to work on your bike.
• 42:12
  But I think if you really want to get involved with the mechanics
• 42:14
  of a bike, then absolutely.
• 42:16
  And there are people, there's tons of YouTube videos.
• 42:18
  I mean, you can call yourself an engineer, but you'll definitely
• 42:21
  be doing engineer like things.
• 42:22
  But I think if that's something you don't want to get involved in, that
• 42:24
  shouldn't be a reason to not get involved.
• 42:28
  Every place I've ever been at riding here in the U S and even overseas.
• 42:31
  If you break down on a trail or something, other riders will stop
• 42:34
  and they'll be willing to help.
• 42:36
  So it's not like your average commuter going down the highway.
• 42:39
  Breakdown alongside the road and people just keep driving by for hours,
• 42:42
  people stop and help and it's a great thing because that whole community
• 42:47
  is much more willing to help others than the average citizen, I would say.
• 42:52
  Oh yeah.
• 42:52
  The amount of times that like we've been on a, we'll be on a
• 42:55
  group ride or trail ride and I'll fall in the back or something.
• 42:58
  And the rest of the group just keeps going.
• 42:59
  Cause they don't know that you fell and I'm laying there.
• 43:01
  I'm like, Oh, okay.
• 43:03
  And I like.
• 43:04
  I just need, you know, it's like the bike's laying on top of me.
• 43:06
  Gas is pouring everywhere.
• 43:07
  I'm like, I just need a second.
• 43:08
  Like I can't reach my kill switch.
• 43:10
  I just need a moment, but people will come up and be like, are you good?
• 43:13
  Can we help you?
• 43:14
  I'm like, keep going.
• 43:15
  My group will turn around eventually, but you know, people always stop.
• 43:19
  Most of the time people have tools.
• 43:21
  Yeah.
• 43:21
  Someone will help you.
• 43:22
  It's interesting.
• 43:23
  You mentioned that about the community, cause we've really felt that as well.
• 43:26
  And there's been some people that have asked us, Oh, you know, being
• 43:28
  two women in this male dominated sport, have you experienced sexism?
• 43:32
  And honestly.
• 43:33
  Minimally, maybe a moment or two, but honestly, we feel so much support
• 43:38
  from the men in this community.
• 43:39
  They're like, we want like our wives, our girlfriends, our daughters.
• 43:42
  We want them out there.
• 43:43
  We love what you're doing.
• 43:44
  So it kind of goes with that.
• 43:45
  Like, it's a very supportive community in that sense too,
• 43:48
  that people want more people.
• 43:50
  It's more fun to ride and camp when there's more, so they don't
• 43:53
  want it to be intimidating.
• 43:54
  They, they want you to win.
• 43:55
  I think that's really cool about the community as well.
• 43:57
  I'm going to let you in on a little secret about that.
• 43:59
  The secret is those of us that have.
• 44:02
  Females on our lives, if we get them involved in it as well, you get to
• 44:05
  go more, yes, that, and they're more willing to let us spend more money on it.
• 44:08
  So there you go.
• 44:11
  That's what we're trying to find men.
• 44:12
  That'll let us do the same thing.
• 44:14
  Yeah.
• 44:14
  I'm like trying to find me a man who will let me spend money on a dirt bike.
• 44:18
  I'm like, I want different plastic, change it up, different tires.
• 44:22
  I feel that we hit on a lot of important topics.
• 44:25
  And there's one thing that I want to address, you know, the changes that are
• 44:28
  needed in the motorsport world, whether it be in motocross, whether it be in vehicles
• 44:32
  and road racing and things like that.
• 44:33
  And obviously you guys are making a big change in the way we look
• 44:36
  at motorsport and motocross.
• 44:38
  But if there was something that you could change about motorsports, as
• 44:42
  you know, it to make it more inviting for women, what would that be?
• 44:46
  What do we need to do to make it so that we can get more women engaged?
• 44:49
  I think definitely seeing like more women faces in the sport.
• 44:53
  I mean, we love seeing the guys race and they're awesome and they work
• 44:56
  their butts off to get to that point.
• 44:57
  It is mainly male faces.
• 44:59
  And I think it would be great if we did start seeing a lot more
• 45:02
  female vendors, promoting female writers and brands at events.
• 45:06
  I think that's definitely a start and hopefully we can contribute to that.
• 45:09
  If I saw more women writing when I was younger, I'd be like, Oh, this is.
• 45:15
  I feel like a lot of times you think this is like a sport for women.
• 45:17
  I mean, and cause if you're only seeing men, you're kind of like, I don't know.
• 45:21
  I'm not seeing other chicks do this.
• 45:23
  I don't think that would be for me, but if you're seeing a lot more
• 45:26
  representation, I think it's definitely easier to be like, well, I mean.
• 45:30
  Like this group of ladies are doing it.
• 45:31
  So why can't I do it?
• 45:33
  And I think there's definitely a lot more of that happening
• 45:35
  right now and also coming.
• 45:37
  So we're answering the question.
• 45:39
  Yeah.
• 45:39
  I mean, seriously, because in order, that's what we're trying to do in
• 45:42
  order to get more women involved.
• 45:43
  You want to see gear that was actually created for women,
• 45:46
  not just an afterthought.
• 45:48
  I will fight anyone on this existing women's gear.
• 45:51
  It looks like an afterthought.
• 45:52
  It looks like it was created by men.
• 45:54
  Four women at the end of the meeting, they were all tired.
• 45:57
  They wanted to go home and they're like, slap some pink and
• 46:02
  stars on it and call it a day.
• 46:04
  And I am, to me, that doesn't scream this sport is for you.
• 46:07
  Like, it's just like, Hey, if you decide to come with your husband,
• 46:10
  with your boyfriend, you can wear something, but it's like,
• 46:12
  ultimately there's no room for you.
• 46:14
  And so.
• 46:15
  I think doing exactly what we're doing, creating more gear, having
• 46:18
  more conversations, women tend to be a little bit more apprehensive than men.
• 46:22
  Like I think men are more likely to just buy a bike because they've always
• 46:26
  wanted to, you know, like I feel like I could see a guy is more likely to
• 46:29
  be like, I've never written, but I want to, I'm going to buy a bike on
• 46:31
  Craigslist and I'm going to give it a go.
• 46:33
  Whereas for a woman, like.
• 46:35
  The chances of that happening are a little bit slimmer.
• 46:39
  And we've talked about one of our goals would be to create a summer camp for youth
• 46:43
  where girls can come and learn to ride.
• 46:46
  And maybe they're not riding every day, but that's part of the experience.
• 46:49
  And maybe doing something like that for women of other ages as well,
• 46:53
  where it's the not scary experience.
• 46:56
  There's trainers, people to show you what to do.
• 46:59
  There's no judgment and you can learn at your own pace until you're
• 47:02
  comfortable to go out on your own.
• 47:03
  It baffles me.
• 47:04
  The fact that we haven't seen more of a female presence in motor
• 47:07
  sports, because unlike your normal physical sports, like basketball and
• 47:11
  football and baseball, motor sports.
• 47:13
  It doesn't come down to the physical abilities as much to where the
• 47:17
  machine does a lot of the work.
• 47:19
  And I've been telling my daughter since she was younger that especially
• 47:21
  in something like motocross, women are very fortunate because your guys center
• 47:25
  of balance is lower than a male's.
• 47:27
  So it actually makes you guys a better rider in many ways.
• 47:30
  And the fact that we haven't tried as a society to push more women to be on
• 47:35
  bikes out there, I'm just dumbfounded by the fact that we haven't done that.
• 47:38
  Well, and I think something that we've realized over, you know, going back
• 47:41
  to like, we haven't experienced a lot of sexism, we've actually had a lot of
• 47:44
  support from men, but I think we had to overcome our own barriers that we created,
• 47:50
  you know, a little bit of an imposter syndrome that because we haven't raced,
• 47:54
  people throw names at us all the time.
• 47:56
  And I'm like, I'm going to be honest.
• 47:57
  I don't know who you're talking about or because we can't take our
• 48:00
  bike apart and put it back together.
• 48:02
  Like.
• 48:02
  I think people are very quick to judge your existence in the
• 48:06
  industry based on those things.
• 48:07
  Who do you know?
• 48:09
  Can you take your bike apart?
• 48:10
  What have you won?
• 48:11
  What have you raced?
• 48:12
  And so we had to realize it doesn't make us any less.
• 48:15
  Like it doesn't make us bad riders because those things.
• 48:18
  So we're just going to be honest.
• 48:19
  And we're going to say like, we don't know, but, uh, we'll Google it later.
• 48:23
  That sounds cool.
• 48:24
  Like, and I.
• 48:25
  So I think that's the, the first piece of it that it is intimidating.
• 48:29
  And I don't know if I would have gotten into it had it not been for
• 48:32
  our dad, like putting us on a bike and being like, go for it now.
• 48:35
  I can't imagine my life without it.
• 48:36
  Like I love dirt biking motocross, like more than a lot of things in my life.
• 48:41
  And, but I think the other thing too, is.
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  Which has been kind of sad and hopefully we can change it is that while we haven't
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  experienced a lot of outcasting from the men in the industry, I think the women in
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  the industry, there, it is a little bit more of a, there's a lot more competition.
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  Yeah.
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  And I, no disrespect, I think for the women that have made it in the industry
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  and are successful, like they had to work very hard to get to where they are and
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  they had to overcome a lot of obstacles.
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  And I don't want to take that away from them, but I just feel like now
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  we're in this place where it's like.
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  Why can't we coexist?
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  Why can't we be successful and you be successful?
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  Why does it have to be one or the other?
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  The men clearly have it figured out where there's 10 major companies
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  that exist and they all sell gear fine and they do their thing.
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  And so, but we realize in that in moto industry, it is a man's world.
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  And so when a woman makes it, it feels like a huge accomplishment.
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  And so when another woman comes in, it can feel very threatening to that success.
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  We don't want to like throw shade at any other woman.
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  We absolutely could.
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  See where it's coming from, but we're hoping that we can show them that
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  we're here to support them just as much as we're doing our own thing.
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  And if other women want to start making kits, we want more options.
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  Like that's totally fine.
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  We don't have to be the only ones to do it.
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  Every company is going to be so different.
• 49:49
  We obviously come from a very personal, like family oriented type of style in
• 49:53
  this, and we don't know a whole lot about what Paige is saying when it comes
• 49:56
  to like taking your bike apart and the people, but because we're doing something.
• 49:59
  We think it is actually bigger than that because we don't want to just stay in
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  motocross, even though we love that.
• 50:04
  We do want to get into other sports.
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  We want to open up the extreme sports world for women.
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  That is our main priority.
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  That's where my thought ended.
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  And that actually leads into another question, maybe a
• 50:15
  combination of questions here.
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  So pants and jerseys and things like that.
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  Are there any new products that you want to talk about that are coming
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  online, you know, while this episode is airing any shout outs, promotions,
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  anything you'd like to share?
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  Our jerseys, we are pretty confident that they will be launching
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  by mid April at the latest.
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  We're ready to go.
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  Our jerseys are in production and the second that we get them in hand, we are
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  launching them because this has been a very long time coming and we've just,
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  with the pandemic and everything else, we've experienced a lot of roadblocks.
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  So we're, let me tell you, we threw ourselves into the fire
• 50:47
  and We're learning how to fire dance and it's been really fun.
• 50:50
  Hey, shout out to my business partner, my sister for being really awesome.
• 50:56
  Our parents for allowing us to live a very unconventional life.
• 51:00
  Paige was born first and they're like, okay, a daughter.
• 51:02
  Like we'll try again.
• 51:03
  My dad's like, we'll probably get a son the second time.
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  Then I came out and they're like, two daughters.
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  My dad's like, he's like, I'm treating them both like sons.
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  I don't care.
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  And like, I guess I ended up benefiting us in the end.
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  There was really nothing.
• 51:14
  Our parents told us we couldn't do.
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  Sports wise, obviously there were a lot of things.
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  There were some other, there's some other things that we just can't.
• 51:20
  But when it came to trying new things in sports, the world was our oyster.
• 51:23
  They encouraged it.
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  And I, so shout out to Keith and Gail and our parents for, and
• 51:28
  for letting us happen, letting us use the house as a warehouse.
• 51:31
  Letting us live headquarters, but no, all jokes aside.
• 51:35
  I mean, thank you to both of you.
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  This has been such a wonderful conversation and we do have
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  My daughter's going to love that.
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  Cause when Eric brought this podcast to me and mentioned it, I looked your guys
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  website up and was going through it.
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  And of course I brought my daughter in to the office.
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  I'm like, Hey, check this stuff out.
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  What do you think of it?
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  And she fell in love with a lot of your guys apparel.
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  And she was like, I want one of their hoodies.
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  And we should have some more.
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  We're working on hopefully some more youth stuff.
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  Once we get our adult kits out, our next focus is going to be youth kits, because
• 52:13
  that's a really the main focus for us.
• 52:15
  Selfishly, obviously, we want our own kits to come out first so we can
• 52:18
  wear them, but then second to that, we really want to make youth kits.
• 52:21
  And so yeah, if your daughters have any recommendations for styles that
• 52:25
  they'd like to see, I mean, because I'm not seven, unfortunately, so I
• 52:29
  just don't know what's Cool anymore.
• 52:31
  I envision, you know, something with unicorn, like something
• 52:35
  might have to be more of my style.
• 52:37
  Yeah.
• 52:37
  Kelly's probably going to design her.
• 52:38
  Yeah.
• 52:40
  I like flowers and unicorns and things.
• 52:42
  And I think as for like future, if women came up to us and we're like,
• 52:45
  can you please make apparel gear for can any four wheel other stuff
• 52:50
  that we don't know enough about?
• 52:51
  I think we just have to wait until we do have a big enough company
• 52:54
  where we have employees and we can hire people that specialize.
• 52:56
  In that sports, I feel like that's so important.
• 52:59
  If we were just to make apparel or gear for things that we don't do, I feel
• 53:03
  like we wouldn't be doing those women justice, anything to help women get
• 53:06
  involved in extreme sports we want to do, but we would probably have to wait
• 53:09
  until we would have the bandwidth and the money to hire people on that are
• 53:13
  part of that sport and can give like an actual personal touch to those things.
• 53:16
  So that's really important to us and real insight on what
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  women want for those sports.
• 53:20
  Well, folks, especially our lady listeners.
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  org for more details about this episode, Paige and Kelly.
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  I cannot thank you guys enough for coming on the show.
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  This has been an absolute treat.
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  You guys are a.
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  Bundle of energy and inspiration.
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