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Who do you work for? | A Star Citizen call-in show · Open Comms Radio | A Star Citizen call-in show

• 0:11
  The thing isn't though. Now that you say that, I can't
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  see it. You're absolutely right.
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  After we're playing, let's let's talk about that first because I
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  was going to go in a totally different direction.
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  You can make as much money as you need and work your way
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  towards any ship in the game. They they were trying to cash in
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  off of that nostalgia and that hype.
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  Now, hey, now we're recording baby.
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  It's one. It's one of those things, you
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  know, you, you, you just miss it.
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  It's a lot, I'm sure it's a lot of bells and whistles to make
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  sure before we get rolling, but yeah, good to be back.
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  Good to be back. Glad to be back.
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  Glad to have you back here with me.
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  Tav, how you doing today? I'm doing all right.
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  I'm we can dive right into Oh my gosh, tried playing the game
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  today and frustrated a bit frustrating.
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  So. Oh, really?
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  Yeah, I can't. Even we couldn't even get the
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  starting box thing because the Oh yes, you talking?
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  About the first mission there. Yeah, that first mission there
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  was just. 3. The SEU boxes.
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  All weighed like a million capacity or whatever and.
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  You couldn't move it in the elevator.
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  You hit the. Boxes.
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  Too, And that's just what's really frustrating about it, is
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  tried it for Hurston, tried it for Crusader.
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  Why would you do that? Why would you?
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  Why would you work for Hurston? Well, it was after we wanted to
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  do Crusader and after being frustrated not being able to get
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  any of them working, it was like, OK, let's just try
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  somewhere else. And yeah, still the same
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  problem. So hopefully that gets fixed at
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  some point soon. I know it's frustrating for me
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  to, you know? But I thought it was already.
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  Fixed and well, to be true because it's.
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  For me it's a flawless. Here's the thing for me dude,
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  this whole event's been flawless.
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  Like for basically the first day there was, but after the first
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  hot fix I haven't had any issues really.
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  That's pretty. I mean, that's I I feel like
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  that's got it. I don't know, is that atypical?
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  I don't know. I mean, it's all anecdotal
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  everywhere, right, But I did not have that experience.
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  I've had a pretty rough run. Best time it's ever worked is
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  maybe you was with you. So maybe you just got the good
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  Choo Choo going on, you know. Well, I spend most of my time
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  mining, so I'm not really interacting with freight
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  elevators too often outside of a hanger because I mine it, I
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  refine it, and I go to the hanger.
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  It is the hangers that seem to be the OR the elevators, really.
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  Yeah. Well, the freight elevators are
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  the dangerous ones out there in the in, in the public, you could
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  say. Sure.
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  It's been a yeah, it's been a rough, rough jump, that's for
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  sure. So have you gotten far with any
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  of the single corporations there I.
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  Was telling you it was with you, man.
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  That was, you know, it's nice getting past tier one, but yeah,
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  I just haven't had a lot of luck with it.
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  So you just you got a tractor beam.
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  Yeah, yeah. And you hate mining, huh?
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  You can't stand it. Oh yeah, I know.
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  Yeah, it's not for me. I would take you out with me.
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  That's all I've been doing. I probably spent more time in
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  the game this past week than I've spent in the game.
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  I don't. Get rewarded for your mining
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  minerals right so. Yeah, I mean, I don't even care
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  about the skins or anything, I just want the guns.
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  Yeah, OK. Initially.
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  I guess. I guess it's all tears, right?
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  Yeah. Get the rifle, yeah.
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  Yeah, I want the sniper, but pretty much at the very
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  beginning, I was very, very enthusiastic about fighting for
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  our Corp and have an art Corp win this because I love our
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  Corp. I don't love our Corp but like
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  out of the four, come on. I mean, maybe things will
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  change. I got a little bit of bad news.
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  I checked it today and did not look good for.
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  Art Corp. I think it is last place.
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  Yeah, but you know what, that's fitting.
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  That's. Fitting.
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  OK, you know. Our corporal make the most sense
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  'cause it's closest to the jump point and the planets don't
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  orbit the sun, they just the planets stay where they are.
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  It does make sense. So yeah.
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  So that that would make good the most sense.
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  I I thought but now everyone just wants fatcho fatchist gold
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  statue Hurston so. HD.
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  They say it's for the skins but I'm not sure if I believe them.
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  Yeah, it's good looking skins. It's hard to argue with that.
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  Black and gold. Yeah, well, if you had to choose
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  one to have your, your, your crusader man.
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  Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm trying to be.
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  It's it. They make it impossible to be a
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  crusader man when you can't even, you know, get those first
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  three SCU, you know? Oh yeah, Oh yeah.
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  And this. So today on the show, we're
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  going to talk about a lot on the show today because we we skipped
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  a week last week. So we're going to dive in to the
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  Let's talk about. What's it?
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  Called the resource drive of course as as tab and I are are
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  starting to talk about this we're also going to talk a
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  little bit about some of the you could call it drama that's
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  unfolded today on Reddit but then for the rest of the show
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  for. The.
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  Majority of the show, we're going to allow our wonderful
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  guests who call in every week to kind of dictate this
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  conversation and let us know where we're going because this
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  show today is Opencoms Radio, your Star Citizen call in show.
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  I'm Jar Jar. And I'm tav.
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  And this week's question is, who do you work for?
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  So I'm gonna pull up our first guest here.
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  Yeah, our first guest, Someone you may know, But Tav, have you
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  seen this guy in a while? I'm not sure who.
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  Yeah, no, maybe not. Maybe not, I haven't seen this
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  gentleman. In a.
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  Long time. It's been three, 3-4 weeks.
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  Wicket, welcome to Open Comms Radio.
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  Who do you work for? Citizens Citizen, long time
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  listener, 23rd time caller. Nice.
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  And 24. No 23rd We'll roll.
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  With 23, I don't want to argue with the caller here real quick.
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  Everyone can listen. Anytime I can prove jar jar
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  wrong, I'm all in. You can try.
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  You can try. Who do we?
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  Who do I work for? I work for the Fremen.
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  Oh, here we go. I knew it, dude.
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  I, I knew it. I was like, Wicked's not even
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  been in Star Citizen. I was wondering if if you maybe
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  like, you know, pop in on on your own, 'cause we could talk
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  about this event is very much a single player event.
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  Yeah, more or less. I mean, the, the group play
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  aspect of it seems to be this like total garbage from what
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  I've seen and some of the videos I've I've consumed.
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  I haven't, I don't think I've logged, I've logged in to do the
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  three intro missions for all four of the factions.
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  Basically, I finally got those work after going on to EU server
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  the night that we were all supposed to.
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  You know, it was kind of like an org thing.
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  The Guild was going to get together and try out the new
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  mission. And of course, initially I
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  couldn't get it to work. And then finally I just left the
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  group, went into started looking for server that work and finally
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  found one and just knocked all four of those out and haven't
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  played since. But I've seen, you know, they're
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  trying to fix stuff, but they're not having the greatest success.
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  And it seems like there's a so much broken.
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  You know, I'm I'm used to a game that kind of more or less works
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  as intended. So jumping on Star Citizen has
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  is absolutely unattractive right now.
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  So you're also. Having an issue this is.
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  This is crazy to me because like like I just said, I've had very
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  few issues with this. Mission, yeah, but you're just
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  mining the stuff and taking it in and and and.
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  Mining seems like it might be the way to go here.
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  I've done. Maybe the the the the the least
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  friction that you'll get, but it's not the most efficient.
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  I think somebody, one of one of the clips I saw of somebody
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  posted about how you take these missions and, or you, you, it's,
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  you fight MPCS and they, they, the loot they drop you can use
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  to turn in. And that's kind of like the most
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  efficient way to do it. I'm not really sure.
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  I, I haven't even really paid attention.
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  I'll probably, you know, a week or two before the next patch
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  comes out, they'll probably have it all working and I'll take a
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  day or two and just finish it all and not.
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  No way. No way.
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  Try to beat my head against the wall.
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  Oh, you don't, you know. No, Chan, what do you mean
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  finish? You're going to try to finish
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  one of the corpse, or you're going to try to do all four.
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  Well, once the optimal way to do it is is discovered and found to
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  be working, somebody will post, you know, look at me.
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  I, I, I figured it out. I, I cracked the code.
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  This is what you do and just do that and then you'll be done.
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  Well, somebody already did that on Reddit.
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  Somebody in the 1st 36 or 48 hours finished all four of them.
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  OK, without cheating it or? I don't know, they they posted
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  and and they basically it was some streamer or something and
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  they played basically two days straight.
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  Right. Sounds like such a battle,
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  right? But I mean you know, most of
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  most of the time you can like right now everybody I see people
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  like posting in in the Guild discord, it's like oh, I'm like
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  1 mission away from it. But now it's not working
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  anymore. I got one more turn in and I
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  finally got the first org done or the first, you know, Hurston
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  or R Corp or whoever they're fighting for done.
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  And from what I can tell, most of these game, most of the most
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  of the stuff that Star Citizen does and CIG puts out, most of
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  the time, there's one. There's a really good optimal
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  way to do all this stuff. And as soon as you crack the
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  code, you just need to rinse and repeat.
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  And within a few days you're done.
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  I don't know how long it'll take, but you know, if it takes
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  a week, I'll just spend a week doing it.
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  And if if I even care, I mean right now I could care less to
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  be honest with you. The rewards don't entice you at
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  all. Let me put it to you this way, I
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  I fresh rolled 1/3 character now and do an awakening from
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  scratch. What?
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  It's really I. Haven't finished?
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  My my first one I haven't I have to do the story and stuff but I
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  I stopped doing the Dune story cause of this event.
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  I'm almost done on the third the the third character.
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  I've almost completely finished the the the main story quest.
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  Yeah. But your third time through it,
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  it's must have been like you're doing it in half the time.
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  Third of the time maybe. Well, I'm just, I'm just playing
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  the game because I enjoy it. It just it listen, you know when
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  when you click on a button and it does what it's supposed to do
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  it's. Just.
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  You don't think about, oh, is this elevator going to work or
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  not work? We're.
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  Going to get to Todd Howard it just.
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  Works, you know, it just just, it's just, there's no, the, the
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  friction is very little in this game.
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  And that's what I enjoy right now.
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  OK, well, you know, it's it so, but I'm still, you know, I'm
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  still paying attention to Star Citizen, I'm still following
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  along. I'm still watching their posts
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  and, you know, watching a couple of different creators And I
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  watch, you know, a lot of our, our, our Guild, our Guild
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  discord and pay attention to what folks were saying.
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  But you know, like a lot of things, it's just like a lot of
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  repetition. It's the same, same shit, just
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  told in a slightly different way, it seems like.
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  And you know, you just kind of I just parse what's going on in,
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  in Discord, what's going on online to figure out, OK, not
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  ready for me to come back to this game right now when I could
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  be, you know, fighting the worm, the real worm.
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  I got 8 today too because I had to take a phone call and wasn't
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  paying attention. What an amateur.
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  Move on dude, on your part. I know man.
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  Kind of fuck, really. I couldn't believe it.
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  I know, I know, I know. Well, yeah.
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  Well, the only reason I did this third character is because
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  there's there's one of the Steam achievements is you know when
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  you. Spoiler alert, if you're
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  thinking about doing Awakening, I'll give you a second if you
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  want to close your ears. OK, I'm second over one of the
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  things you can do when you get eaten by the worm, you go into
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  this thing called a spice dream and you meet this dude inside
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  the spice dream after you've lost everything because when you
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  get eaten by the worm, you lose everything.
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  If you're on a vehicle, you lose the vehicle, you lose everything
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  in your inventory and you basically wake up in your boxer
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  briefs, but. Unrealistic.
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  Why would you keep your boxer briefs?
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  Well, you know. How could I be immersed in a
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  game like that? It's.
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  A game you know it's American audience, you know this is not
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  worth. Speaking of Speaking of, before
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  we finish that bit and before we bring our next guest, Speaking
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  of boxer briefs, Tav and I had a little adventure in Star Citizen
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  and. Tried to.
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  We tried to We were trying to film a little toilet scene in
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  Star Citizen and we had this great idea.
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  I won't tell you about the. Idea at all when you say it like
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  that. Doesn't sound weird at all, no?
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  Well, I was supposed to strip down, right?
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  And then we were going to do some, some movie magic there to,
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  to let you know I'm Naked. But do you push the button and
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  the toilet pops out on the Corsair?
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  You can't sit on it. No.
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  You can't sit so that we we went to what do we go to Tav We did
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  like a. Did you sit?
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  On any of them. I don't think you can sit on any
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  of them. You cannot sit on any of them.
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  No, you could sit on the Coursera one.
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  It was just it wasn't synced for us.
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  Like I could sit on it. That's right.
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  You didn't see it just looked like you were just sitting on
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  thin air. So it was just really none of
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  the, we couldn't find a single toilet lit, you know, And I
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  think we all scaled all the way up, though.
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  Polaris, right? Yeah, you just couldn't find a
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  toilet at work. Yeah, this.
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  Is what we pay for bro. Anyway, anyway we get hit of it.
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  Wait, how sad is that? Like, but if, if toilets start
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  working, you wait, you'll see some good content because we
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  were trying to, we're trying to make something special here, you
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  know, and they just won't give us the tools we need to do it.
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  Yeah, it should be our pitch. Anyway, wicked, I'll let you
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  finish your Dune thought, and I'll bring it.
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  On well, anyway, the you get it. You there's an achievement where
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  when you when you die by the worm, the guy offers you a new
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  sand bike. And then the achievement is to
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  turn them down and say, no, I don't need your, your, your,
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  your damn welfare sand bike. I'll, I'll make my own and that
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  gives you an achievement. So I just made a new character
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  just so I could do that achievement and just to get that
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  one achievement was I'd rather spend, you know what, 5-6 hours
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  to make a character to get to that point.
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  It's just to turn down a sand bike after getting eaten then
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  play Star Citizen is the point. Well CIG, you if you get
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  anything from this, enable silly achievements and then wicket,
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  we'll play your game again. Well, party hats.
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  Just add party hats. All right, so like, if you could
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  scoot down there, scoot down the couch.
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  For those of you listening who don't know Oppacom's radio, we,
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  we have callers call in and we have a big old couch here.
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  Anyone can pop on and join the couch.
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  Just join our Discord. We record Wednesday nights at
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  9:00 PM Eastern Time. If you're not on Eastern Time,
• 17:30
  you got to figure that one out for yourself because I don't.
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  I don't know where you are, but we're going to scoot on down
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  here and invite our next guest onto the show, Cosmic Hobo.
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  Hobo. Cosmic Hobo Another regular here
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  at Open Comms Radio. Cosmic who do you work for?
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  Micro tech. Nice.
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  I like the cold, I like the snow, I like the sleek
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  aesthetics. I don't.
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  I don't hate them. Next I'll be working for
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  probably Hurston only because they're winning and look at the
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  winning tier 5 armor thing. But I'd rather be working for
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  Crusader next month. But.
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  Oh, I didn't know that. You think there's a lot of that
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  effect going around where people might complete one corporation
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  and then go, all right, who's likely to win this thing and
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  then just make that their second, A little bit of the rich
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  get richer there, you know? Yeah.
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  Is that how it works? We're one of there's going to be
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  a winner and then everybody else.
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  That the winner gets the So the winner gets the company name on
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  Pyro Jump Point station. It's a 5% landing zone discount.
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  On everything in the in not, I think it's not just in the
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  landing center, but also in the orbit station.
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  So if it's Hurston, it'll be what's that called So.
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  Doesn't it make sense just to get Hurston because that's where
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  most of the ships are sold? That's what most people are
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  probably thinking, yes. 'Cause that was the most
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  expensive thing you're ever going to buy is a ship, right?
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  And if. Most of the.
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  Ships are 5% cheaper. That's probably a good thing.
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  Although I think it's. A little short sighted because
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  they can re shuffle that inventory, ship inventory at any
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  time. For the other, yeah, they can,
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  yeah. Yeah, but they haven't done that
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  and ever. Yeah, no, that would that would
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  require or like a reason for them, you know, they would need
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  like they'd have to have some kind of like gameplay.
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  They'd have to care. Theory.
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  Yeah, I mean it's 5. Percent.
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  It's not, it's not huge. I mean this is.
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  Yes, they care about the game. We did.
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  I know you don't, but. Yeah, traitor.
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  I care, I can't listen. Do you see how high your voice
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  went there? I care, I care.
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  Don't you never sing the Star Spangled Banner?
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  You'll better. Listen, I'm in the middle of
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  battles right now, so. But the the the other thing that
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  the winner gets, so Hearst wins and there's like a a unique
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  armor. Everyone who maxes out the
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  Hearst in tier gets this unique armor.
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  It's just a black piece of armor with your logo on it.
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  Isn't there a isn't there a a reward for every tier you
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  achieve for each yes faction and you get that still?
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  Yeah, you. Get.
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  Your tier you get, As you go through tiers you get those. 5%
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  you don't get the station renaming and you don't get the
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  special. Well, it's well, everyone gets
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  access to the 5%, it's just that Hurston, you can only get that
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  discount at Hurston or Hurston stations.
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  Yeah, it's pretty balanced. I mean, even if you wanted to
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  show up in, let's say you only had six hours for this entire
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  event, should it be working like you should be able to get to to
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  your to possibly right like and collect?
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  Yeah, easily. Should it be working as the?
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  Obviously the caveat but. As always.
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  Yeah, I don't have faith. I'll give it a shot.
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  Again here in a week. You guys can just hang out with
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  me. Come with me, we'll get it done.
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  Oh. 4.3 so so hold on tab wait we're we're going to get to 4.3.
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  Let's let let's do it hobo have have his moment.
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  We'll have our next caller come on and then we'll get to the 4.3
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  drama in a second here. So hobo I mean, is it working
• 21:59
  for you? Is it successful for you?
• 22:01
  How you liking it? Have you had much time in the in
• 22:03
  the event? Yeah, I was doing fine right
• 22:07
  until right until just a few minutes when I started losing
• 22:12
  because what I've been doing is the the the resource tribe large
• 22:17
  cargo rescue. So that is the mission where you
• 22:22
  have to, well, the way they want you to do it is to destroy the
• 22:31
  ships attacking this abandoned cargo ship.
• 22:33
  So then you can either unload the cargo ship or take the cargo
• 22:37
  ship back to wherever. I just scoot on over to the ship
• 22:44
  as fast as I can, hop out, use my previous ship as target
• 22:49
  practice for the AI while I run to the bridge, get in the in the
• 22:53
  pilot's seat and just boost out of there.
• 22:57
  This. Usually works.
• 23:00
  Yes, it's very quick. You don't have to.
• 23:01
  You don't have to do. Any loading you don't.
• 23:03
  Have to fight any cargo elevators it's.
• 23:07
  And when you get the ship and you you dock it back at base,
• 23:10
  you don't have to unload it manually.
• 23:11
  You just you have to unload it, but there's only nine boxes
• 23:14
  compared to a lot for the usual cargo mission.
• 23:21
  Oh 'cause they're the longer they're the 32 SCU boxes instead
• 23:26
  of it's always it was like 4 SCU or like 8 SCU boxes I think.
• 23:31
  They're four SC US on the large cargo and the normal large cargo
• 23:35
  missions and it sucks because there's so many fucking boxes.
• 23:43
  Bro I'm I'm mining, it's all for SCU boxes for me too.
• 23:47
  Yeah, well for this it's like 3 large boxes and then a handful
• 23:54
  of tiny smaller ish boxes for patrol of dime.
• 23:59
  So that's that's easy. That's a quick on the.
• 24:02
  Is that like the optimal way, not duping?
• 24:06
  Yeah, that's the way to do it. That is the fastest way to do
• 24:09
  it. Broccoli Rob's been doing it
• 24:10
  that way to have you, Me and Lord Anubis tried that the first
• 24:15
  week if you recall. Vaguely, yes.
• 24:18
  And then we did not succeed. None of us went into the
• 24:23
  cockpit. It was a Caterpillar there.
• 24:25
  None of us went into the. Cockpit I do remember.
• 24:26
  Remember. And it blew up and then Anubis
• 24:28
  got like a Pisces and like he flew past me.
• 24:32
  It was just it was a huge disaster all the way through.
• 24:37
  I hate the Caterpillar ones. We all got out of there, but we
• 24:41
  didn't get any of the cargo and then we just we shut the game
• 24:44
  off for two days after that. Well, if you take, what's crazy
• 24:50
  is if you take that ship, I don't know if this is still that
• 24:52
  way, but I did it with somebody else.
• 24:54
  And when you take the ship from that mission, you drop the cargo
• 24:58
  off, you got to take your own ship back out, right, 'cause if
• 25:01
  you take that ship again, 'cause I think we had AC2.
• 25:04
  And it was like, oh, hell yeah, we'll just use the C2 to do the
• 25:06
  rest of these missions. And once we dropped off that
• 25:09
  cargo once, it just poof, we were out in the middle of space,
• 25:14
  you know, both left in the middle of nowhere.
• 25:16
  And it's like, oh, OK, well, this is maybe call it here.
• 25:21
  That's some of those silly, Yeah, that's some of those silly
• 25:23
  things that they, they don't ever, it's like they don't
• 25:28
  finish. It says it's not even an edge
• 25:30
  case. I don't want to call it an edge
• 25:31
  case because obviously if you're going to steal the ship and
• 25:34
  you're going to take it back and it's like AC2, what a great ship
• 25:38
  to keep using. Obviously players are going to
• 25:40
  try to keep. Using it.
• 25:42
  Yeah. So for that mission in
• 25:44
  particular, there's two things that I have for this steal the,
• 25:48
  you know, ship or to take the CARC from the ship.
• 25:51
  Mission 1 is the fact that you go in that ship and it's just
• 25:55
  fully operable, like all you have to do is turn the engines
• 25:59
  on and go is ridiculous. There should be a fuse.
• 26:03
  Remember fuses, you guys remember that?
• 26:06
  You think you're too. You think you're too hard?
• 26:08
  There should be a few, maybe it maybe if you have a fuse and you
• 26:11
  put the fuse in it, then it can turn back on, you know,
• 26:14
  something like that. Just something to to to
• 26:16
  demonstrate like because you get the mission and it goes, our
• 26:19
  ship got like shut down or stuck or something and you get there
• 26:23
  and it's fine and there's no one in it.
• 26:25
  Yeah, it would make a lot more sense.
• 26:27
  Of like all the fuses were burnt out and you had to replace the
• 26:29
  fuses and then you could for like and those are cheap at a
• 26:33
  station, right so. Well, and then that also gives
• 26:36
  you an opportunity to have like a, a team on that because
• 26:42
  wouldn't it be cool if it's a Caterpillar or C2 and you get on
• 26:46
  and you don't necessarily know which fuse or how many fuses you
• 26:49
  need to replace? But if you want to take that
• 26:51
  ship, you better do it quick or you're going to get shot at by
• 26:54
  these other guys. So then you you have a team.
• 26:58
  You get additional. Functionality of ships like the
• 26:59
  Vulture that can manufacture. Fuses can it?
• 27:04
  Yep. Yeah.
• 27:05
  Whoa. So I just think and now that has
• 27:09
  another whole nother use like yeah, anyway, good idea, great.
• 27:17
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just, it's one of
• 27:20
  those things where it's like, all right, I know, I know we're
• 27:24
  not done and everything. And I know you now they have
• 27:27
  this monthly schedule schedule, sorry.
• 27:30
  And I just feel like they're like they're, you know, they're
• 27:35
  they're pushing it out to get it out on time.
• 27:37
  But it's such like a self-imposed timeline.
• 27:40
  Like when you have rather they just waited an extra 2 weeks, 3
• 27:45
  weeks a month, fleshed it out more and then it lands like more
• 27:51
  thought out. 100% I don't know how we who do we have to bribe
• 27:59
  off? I don't know what what you have
• 28:00
  to do over at CIG to get that to be the case, because I do think
• 28:04
  that's the biggest problem. I mean, just me trying to get
• 28:08
  friends to play. It's like, hey, for this patch,
• 28:10
  you know, let's pop in now. The cargo doesn't work.
• 28:13
  And there's this refrain of like, does this ever work when
• 28:17
  they drop a patch? This is why I don't play and you
• 28:22
  know, because they kill 3 hours of their time to not get
• 28:25
  anywhere right? That is just so damaging I feel
• 28:30
  like. And so I don't I I don't Yeah.
• 28:33
  If you all have any ideas, I don't know how to fix that
• 28:36
  problem. Do more with PTU, open it up for
• 28:40
  more players, incentivize it more.
• 28:45
  This is always the case where in PTU it never gets stress test
• 28:50
  enough and then it hits live and immediately everyone in their
• 28:56
  uncle stress tests it and breaks it and it's just like we should
• 29:00
  have seen this in in the PTU but we didn't because they didn't
• 29:04
  have enough people on PTU. I feel like PTU is part of the
• 29:08
  problem. No, it shouldn't be.
• 29:11
  Well, it absolutely shouldn't be, because it should be where
• 29:14
  things are tested. They just never get enough
• 29:17
  people to actually test. The problem is, is that the PTU
• 29:21
  does not does not for what? For whatever reason, whether
• 29:25
  it's lack of stress, lack of participation, lack of whatever,
• 29:30
  the PTU does not reveal a lot of these things.
• 29:32
  So they don't catch them or they do catch them, but they, you
• 29:35
  know, they're on a timeline, you know, who knows what the reasons
• 29:38
  are? Let's just let's assume, let's
• 29:40
  give them grace and say. OK, they have fully said it's
• 29:43
  because people don't play, they don't stress.
• 29:48
  Test. I'll never play the inside
• 29:49
  again. Here here.
• 29:51
  Here's the deal though the PTU. The reason it's the problem is
• 29:55
  that get rid of the PTU, just throw it throw throw everything
• 30:00
  out into into the live environment.
• 30:03
  Yes. Listen, hear me.
• 30:04
  Out. Hear me out if they make like
• 30:08
  when they had the the the the what the test branch, what do
• 30:12
  they call it where you still maintained your your progress?
• 30:17
  Do it that way. Have a live stable branch and
• 30:20
  have the the test branch. But whatever you do in one, like
• 30:25
  if if you get rap in one, it'll carry over to the other and vice
• 30:29
  versa. And that way you're not losing
• 30:32
  anything. People will continue to play.
• 30:34
  But you know what, whether repeat, whether you want to
• 30:37
  admit it or not, people, this is a game that has progress in it.
• 30:42
  This this is a game that has a wallet.
• 30:45
  All right, most people, they could give two shits about the
• 30:50
  new shiny ship. They just want to get in the
• 30:52
  ship and play fly around pirate, not pirate mine.
• 30:56
  And they want their shit to work, plain and simple.
• 31:01
  They don't care about testing. They don't care about helping
• 31:05
  like, well, I already paid, I paid 200 bucks for the ship and
• 31:08
  it doesn't work. You know, that's all they're
• 31:11
  thinking about. That's that's, that's the way I
• 31:13
  look at it and. What I was saying they need to
• 31:15
  incentivize the PTU. Screw.
• 31:19
  The PTU. PTU.
• 31:20
  Is a problem man, I'm telling you.
• 31:21
  Get rid of it if everybody. Playing what you just described
• 31:24
  was the PTU but with with the with fucking.
• 31:32
  Exactly. Persistent with everybody,
• 31:33
  playing in it with everybody. Then you're splitting the player
• 31:37
  base like that. Doesn't make any sense.
• 31:42
  Then then just get rid. Of it in general, because might
• 31:44
  come from. The PTU is irrelevant because
• 31:47
  nothing they do in the PTU does anything to further the game in
• 31:51
  the in in the in the live environment.
• 31:54
  The live environment is still screwed up.
• 31:56
  It doesn't have been, I say. PTU.
• 32:00
  This patch has been out three weeks and it's still busted.
• 32:04
  It's not entirely busted. There are things that are wrong,
• 32:07
  yes, but you can play the game. This is not a 3.18 situation
• 32:11
  again. I'm not saying that, but it's
• 32:14
  there's still enough broken in it.
• 32:15
  I mean, it doesn't matter. They're still iterating on this
• 32:18
  live environment. They're still fixing the live
• 32:21
  environment and everybody's playing it and they're playing
• 32:24
  it and stressing it because this is the only game in town.
• 32:27
  If it is the only game in town, this is where we'll get fixed,
• 32:30
  and it'll get fixed a lot faster.
• 32:32
  I feel like is there I mean. What is?
• 32:34
  What is the the the PTU? Is irrelevant.
• 32:38
  Like how many? I don't think you've ever played
• 32:41
  on an early PTU build because those are fucking nightmares.
• 32:44
  All right, hold on, hold on. I want to I want to continue
• 32:46
  this conversation, but I also want to get our next caller in
• 32:48
  because I just don't want to keep them waiting more.
• 32:50
  So we'll, we'll, we'll continue with this for a minute, but
• 32:54
  we're going to let our, our next caller, our regular caller here
• 32:57
  on Open Comms Radio, Lord Anubis, join, join the couch
• 33:00
  here. If everyone can just scoot down
• 33:02
  that Lord Anubis in here. Lord Anubis, welcome to Open
• 33:05
  Comms Radio. Who do you work for and what do
• 33:09
  you think about the PTUI? Currently work for Jagotech.
• 33:17
  What's this? It's a real life company.
• 33:22
  Hold on, I'm trying. To dox yourself.
• 33:23
  Don't dox yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:25
  You want. Do I?
• 33:26
  Do I have to. You want me to beep that?
• 33:28
  No one knows. Yeah, sure, why not Hold.
• 33:30
  On do you need to? What do they do?
• 33:31
  What do they make of that company?
• 33:34
  Laser lighting? Well that's fucking.
• 33:36
  That's fucking cool. Yeah, I do assembly and I help
• 33:41
  with refining the manufacturing processes and.
• 33:45
  Refining. Sooning to soon to work on
• 33:51
  helping develop boards and and software for their systems I'm
• 33:58
  hoping. Very well, Lord Anubis, what I
• 34:01
  got. Which Corp have you been working
• 34:04
  for in Star Citizen? Sorry, which corporation you've
• 34:11
  been working for? Our Corp?
• 34:14
  Hell yeah, dude. Yeah, sorry about the confusion
• 34:18
  there. Just had a little bit of a weird
• 34:21
  message come on through. Apparently someone from Sig was
• 34:26
  thinking about calling in today. I I was just reading that.
• 34:30
  From Cloud Imperium Games. Yeah, that's what I heard.
• 34:35
  Oh yeah, hold on. I see him.
• 34:36
  I see him here, actually. Anubis if you don't.
• 34:40
  Mind, when is he gonna? If you don't mind waiting.
• 34:42
  Well, if you don't mind waiting, could you give him your spot?
• 34:47
  OK. Just for just for a minute here.
• 34:49
  Yeah. So this is really cool.
• 34:51
  We got our own special guest from CIG out of Frankfurt, Jens
• 34:57
  Flores. Jens Flores, welcome to Open
• 35:01
  Coms Radio. We're happy to have you, Jens.
• 35:04
  Hello, how are you today? I'm, I'm doing great, Jens,
• 35:11
  really excited to, to talk to you and excited to talk to you
• 35:16
  actually about the event, the, the resource drive event we have
• 35:19
  going on. We have a lot of players even on
• 35:23
  this call right now who've been having lots of problems with the
• 35:25
  freight elevators. Can you tell us what's what's
• 35:30
  going on with that? Yes.
• 35:33
  So we have been working on these for quite some time and
• 35:41
  incorporating them into the game has been wonderful and we see
• 35:46
  that players are building communities around them and so
• 35:52
  we. Players are building communities
• 35:55
  around the freight elevators. Yes, yes.
• 35:59
  Was this an intended feature? It was a hope.
• 36:05
  We we hope that the players would come together, that they
• 36:08
  would see each other and want to help.
• 36:11
  So, you know, there are things that we did not anticipate, but
• 36:19
  we did hope for. Could you speak?
• 36:22
  What are some of those things that you didn't anticipate?
• 36:28
  Well, the response for everyone to use the elevators every day,
• 36:37
  when you have such a large universe, then you know, we, we,
• 36:46
  we would think that other people would do other missions.
• 36:52
  That's very interesting, Yens. Why?
• 36:54
  Why would you think, why wouldn't you just assume that
• 36:57
  people would find the most efficient way to to complete the
• 36:59
  mission? It wouldn't.
• 37:01
  That makes sense. Like From especially knowing
• 37:03
  your your your gamers, the people who play this game.
• 37:10
  Well we have to guide the game, we normally do not listen too
• 37:18
  much to feedback otherwise it it may ruin the creative process if
• 37:26
  if that makes sense. Oh, it's obvious.
• 37:32
  Jens, there's been a lot of talk lately, especially like on
• 37:40
  Reddit about how you guys kind of you, you promise you tease
• 37:46
  something and then when it comes closer to that, that patch time,
• 37:51
  you usually pull away from it. The the recent examples on
• 37:55
  Reddit, there's these cooperative zones that you were
• 37:57
  like, it's not a sandbox, It's not this, it's a cooperative
• 38:00
  zone. And then today you guys pulled
• 38:04
  that back and you said, no, we're taking these out.
• 38:08
  These are sandbox missions, these kinds of features that you
• 38:14
  kind of brag about and tease and then and then pull away.
• 38:18
  Is that a strategy of CIGS or? Well, sometimes we see a dynamic
• 38:28
  is going so well, we may put things on hold in order to give
• 38:35
  people the opportunity to play around with what we have been
• 38:40
  able to provide. OK, OK.
• 38:46
  And there's some other features like engineering, for example,
• 38:49
  which we heard about like a couple years ago.
• 38:52
  And engineering is not yet in the game, Is it?
• 38:57
  Is is, Can you talk a little bit about what's going on with
• 39:00
  engineering? Yes, yes, it is important.
• 39:05
  We understand people want to play Scotty.
• 39:12
  However, the team for engineering has been diverted.
• 39:19
  Currently we are developing a new version of the flight model
• 39:27
  and once that is done, we and and we may go through several
• 39:33
  stages to see and test. Then we can hire staff to remake
• 39:41
  engineering. Oh, so the engineering team is
• 39:44
  working on on a new flight model, Yes.
• 39:49
  Is that has it always been the same team working on the
• 39:52
  engineering in the in the flight model?
• 39:57
  That I cannot say. Interesting, Interesting.
• 40:01
  Well, Jens Flores Flores from CIG Frankfurt, thank you.
• 40:07
  Thank you for stopping in today. Is there anything else you'd
• 40:10
  like to share with the Open Comms community?
• 40:13
  Any news from CIG? Yes, we are to release 3 new
• 40:18
  ships. One of them is for a new style
• 40:23
  of gameplay and a new mechanic in the game.
• 40:27
  Cool. What's can you elaborate on that
• 40:30
  a little bit? Yes.
• 40:32
  So we have the biological loop where you have water, you have
• 40:42
  food and logically this is a simulation.
• 40:47
  So now we have liquid and solid waste and we are creating a new
• 40:59
  storyline that is a resource drive to restock the reactors
• 41:05
  for the region fluid. This is the culmination of the
• 41:10
  region crisis. And to help with that we have
• 41:15
  ships with tanks on them. Cutlass.
• 41:20
  They are cutlasses and they are fitted with tanks to transport
• 41:24
  this waste and players will be able to, in a similar fashion to
• 41:28
  mining, drop off the refinery for profit and to and to earn
• 41:35
  rewards. Are you?
• 41:36
  Are you are? Very excited.
• 41:38
  I'm sorry, are you, are you, are you alluding to a poop?
• 41:41
  Loop. We prefer waste, solid and
• 41:48
  liquid waste. Jens Flores, everybody from CIG
• 41:54
  Frankfurt, thank you, thank you, thank you, Jens for stopping by.
• 42:00
  Thank you. Wow, wow, wow, that was.
• 42:05
  It's not every day we get let. Me, just get back in the seat
• 42:09
  here. Who was that?
• 42:10
  There's those, Jens Flores. Sorry to keep you, Lord Anubis.
• 42:14
  That that was, I wish that was some shit Flores, I mean.
• 42:21
  Well, he's he's his father's German, but his mother's
• 42:23
  Spanish. What kind of?
• 42:26
  Spanish. No, his Argentinian.
• 42:28
  And they took his mother's name because they're progressive.
• 42:32
  I don't. Yeah, she's, she's an
• 42:33
  Argentinian. Sounds really European.
• 42:36
  So I like that, Anubis. I'd I'd like to have Jens Flores
• 42:43
  back. We should we should hit him up
• 42:46
  on Discord and see if he'll come back.
• 42:49
  Yeah, yeah, I don't think he will.
• 42:52
  No. No, I have no doubts.
• 42:58
  Damn, damn. Well, Lord Anubis, you've been
• 43:01
  you've been here for a short time now prior to you coming in.
• 43:07
  We were having a a heated discussion and I kind of broke
• 43:11
  us in the middle of we were talking about the PTU versus the
• 43:14
  PU and how or yeah, it's the PTU versus the PU wicket had, which
• 43:23
  I thought I do think is a good point wicket about the the PTU.
• 43:28
  Like nobody plays it. If they're going to be testing
• 43:31
  and fixing things in the PU anyway and nobody's playing the
• 43:34
  PTU, why bother having one? Those early builds and PTU will
• 43:44
  say it all but. Yeah, but the early bills, they
• 43:48
  last a few hours and then there's they, they iterate on it
• 43:52
  and then they fix. I'm just telling you, the onus
• 43:54
  will be on fixing the stuff. It'll get fixed a lot quicker.
• 43:58
  There will be that they'll have all the stress test they want.
• 44:03
  Just throw it up against the wall, see what stakes and and
• 44:06
  then have the mechanic. Available if they have to.
• 44:08
  Roll back, roll back. I don't know what how it could
• 44:12
  get much worse. Rollbacks are way worse.
• 44:16
  I remember rollbacks a. Little then you lose all.
• 44:18
  You lose all your stuff in a rollback like you lose all any.
• 44:21
  Progress that you grind, yeah. You're you're saying two things
• 44:24
  at the same time. You want persistence, but you
• 44:27
  also want rollbacks like. I don't get it.
• 44:30
  If if it breaks so much that people can't play, just roll it
• 44:34
  back to a state where it was playable.
• 44:37
  Figure out it is playable. Throw it back out, see if it
• 44:40
  works. And we're not talking about
• 44:42
  rollbacks of a week or two weeks.
• 44:44
  We're talking hours, you know. Here's the thing, this I'll
• 44:48
  playable already. Yeah, I'll push back on you,
• 44:51
  Wicket. It's more playable now than it's
• 44:53
  ever been. Like I've been playing all week.
• 44:56
  I know I'm kind of the exception here because I've just been
• 44:58
  mining, but I've had virtually no issues.
• 45:01
  So you're you're doing a game loop that is kind of working
• 45:06
  right now, but what about all those people that are trying to
• 45:09
  play? The So you want to punish those?
• 45:11
  With go to another server. By doing a full rollback.
• 45:14
  No, I'm not saying that I'm. Just saying that though like if
• 45:18
  for hours. It's not working, calm down.
• 45:20
  I'm just saying that's an option if it gets so bad like let's say
• 45:24
  you. Get a loop.
• 45:25
  Away with PTU. Let's say you do away with PTU
• 45:29
  and you just throw it out there. Now all of a sudden, you know,
• 45:33
  instead of having a couple of 1000 people playing a, a build
• 45:37
  and quote UN quote stressing it, now you have 10s of thousands of
• 45:41
  people, if not hundreds of thousands of people playing it
• 45:44
  and stressing it. Now you're really going to get
• 45:46
  stress and now it's going to reveal all the problems now.
• 45:52
  It's. Common ground here of like, OK,
• 45:55
  so everybody. Wants.
• 45:57
  The the PTU to get more of a stress test.
• 46:02
  And I, I mean, I agree the game is working.
• 46:03
  Probably a lot of these missions are working, but I mean even
• 46:06
  just for specific, you know, specifically today.
• 46:10
  Well, I'm just saying the argument.
• 46:11
  You know, my partner can be like, hey, like I can see the
• 46:13
  problem right here. It says on the on the freight
• 46:16
  elevator that this is, you know, a million capacity and that's
• 46:21
  why it can't be moved over. Like I can see right here on the
• 46:24
  elevator, like there's a, there's obviously a a typo here
• 46:27
  that keeps it from being moved over.
• 46:31
  My only question is like, does that really need 10,000 people
• 46:35
  to see that? Like couldn't, wouldn't that be
• 46:37
  aptu bug? Like I'm just I'm a little suss
• 46:42
  on like some of these problems are like, well, we all these
• 46:44
  problems needed, you know, 10s of thousands more people.
• 46:49
  Or they just need. More time?
• 46:50
  I don't know, that just seems like it could have needed a
• 46:52
  little more time. The PTU or the PTU needs to be
• 46:55
  more. It needs to be more something
• 46:58
  seems like we all agree on that, right?
• 47:00
  That would help the PTA. I don't.
• 47:02
  Think it's even getting thousands of people in the PTU.
• 47:04
  I don't think it gives enough people at all.
• 47:07
  The thing that's. That's kind of the general
• 47:11
  argument all the time we have this PTU, but nobody's
• 47:13
  participating. So when we incentivize it.
• 47:17
  OK, hear me. If nobody's participating, it's
• 47:21
  not fulfilling its function all right.
• 47:24
  Fair. Sure, If it's not fulfilling its
• 47:26
  function, just do away with it. Yeah, then.
• 47:30
  Everybody will participate in testing the game.
• 47:33
  It does this game. We'll work it to.
• 47:34
  Separate and Congrats. That stinks.
• 47:36
  Bulldozing the house and then we have a more stable.
• 47:39
  People hold on, one at a time, one at a time, one at a time.
• 47:41
  Everybody suffer. To have go.
• 47:43
  For it, break it for everyone. And we hold.
• 47:45
  On Wicks it for. Everyone I.
• 47:47
  Just think we have. Great stability.
• 47:49
  Now, outside of like a lot of that's thanks to the PTU, Like
• 47:55
  we owe a lot to the PTU, at least hammer, you know,
• 47:58
  hammering out some of the obvious before it gets to the
• 48:03
  live build. Yeah, a lot of early go through
• 48:06
  for that. If so, if that's working, let's
• 48:10
  yeah, let's I'd say double down on the on the PTU and make it
• 48:14
  yeah, let's incentivize it. I don't, you know, I just don't
• 48:17
  know what's an appropriate incentivization, you know, to
• 48:20
  get people in there. Yeah, I don't think.
• 48:23
  That's the argument is how do you incentivize it but not
• 48:27
  destroy the whole thing? So then we just send it to live
• 48:30
  because who needs a dev server? Am I right folks?
• 48:33
  Yeah, I remember that. I remember the days before PTU
• 48:37
  and those patches were, well I mean it was we all remember.
• 48:42
  Like those patches were unplayable.
• 48:43
  Every patch. Well, they put out patches and
• 48:46
  then and then they wiped stuff and everybody started over and
• 48:50
  then, you know, yeah, that's that sucked.
• 48:53
  There was the persistence, wasn't there?
• 48:55
  There was no way to test persistence.
• 48:57
  I I argue persistence still isn't here because every, every
• 49:01
  major patch cycle, we're still missing shit.
• 49:04
  Some people get lucky and they miss less stuff than others, you
• 49:07
  know, There seems to be no rhyme or reason.
• 49:09
  There's like some some broken function that is not carrying
• 49:13
  over the persistent inventories the way it should, and that
• 49:17
  hasn't worked now for over a year.
• 49:20
  Yeah, I mean, and these are these are problems that need to
• 49:23
  be fixed. But you got to understand they
• 49:27
  haven't had enough time. And once they finish the flight
• 49:31
  model, they can get back to the game.
• 49:33
  You know, they can get back to like the other things, but but
• 49:36
  they gotta take care of the flight model.
• 49:37
  It's just to be perfected. Yeah, it's the most important
• 49:41
  thing in the game, dynamics, economy.
• 49:46
  Are you gonna have? Fun. 2nd tier.
• 49:49
  Keeping anything in your inventory or, or keeping even
• 49:53
  your ships is secondary to the experience of flying through
• 49:56
  space. And unfortunately it it's just
• 50:00
  not something that they, you know.
• 50:04
  Anubis, you said something. You said something hilarious the
• 50:06
  other day. You said if this were a
• 50:09
  submarine video game, the flight model would be perfect.
• 50:13
  It is, because that's exactly what it's like.
• 50:15
  It's like flying a submarine. You, you, you slow down.
• 50:19
  It's like as though you're flying through water.
• 50:22
  Like, why? Why am I boosting and then
• 50:25
  slowing down to some arbitrary speed after I boost?
• 50:29
  If I'm in fucking space, even in atmo, it's like, it just doesn't
• 50:33
  feel right. It feels like you're underwater.
• 50:36
  Yeah. Just fly decoupled.
• 50:38
  Everywhere. Yeah, yeah.
• 50:41
  I mean it's, it's, I mean decoupled's fine, but decoupled
• 50:45
  still feel doesn't feel right, not for space, I mean, or even
• 50:49
  if you if you boost and decoupled on speed.
• 50:52
  Yeah. And if you boost and decoupled,
• 50:54
  you still slow down after your boost is over.
• 50:57
  So it doesn't like there there can be a Max speed obviously for
• 51:02
  your boost like I understand that, but like to have it just
• 51:05
  slow down like I should just keep staying at that boosted
• 51:08
  speed if I'm in space. Yes, and we can talk about that
• 51:12
  and we can, we can critique it and everything else like that.
• 51:15
  But honestly, I think it works. And and that's why the whole
• 51:20
  flight model development bull crap, which you know it, that's
• 51:25
  a lot of physics. It's a lot of physics to
• 51:27
  physicalize raindrops or whatever, you know, air and
• 51:31
  ailerons and all these other things.
• 51:33
  I mean, it's a lot if you're riding it into an engine that
• 51:38
  doesn't already have it. And frankly, it's not important
• 51:44
  the the dynamics of the game. The thing that keeps people in
• 51:47
  the game, they're already enjoying it.
• 51:48
  They're already enjoying flying. You know what Master Models is
• 51:52
  as flotted, as flotted as it is works.
• 51:55
  I mean, it it, it's fine for a space game.
• 51:58
  It doesn't need to be extremely realistic, but it does need to
• 52:01
  be. I disagree.
• 52:03
  That it's fine, but yeah, I mean.
• 52:06
  I mean, I do think they need to redo the fight model.
• 52:08
  I think it's ridiculous the way it is now, but.
• 52:11
  But they want to go full on physics and all this other stuff
• 52:15
  and they, you know how turbulence will affect it and,
• 52:19
  and that is fine. But that is fine when you've
• 52:22
  already had, when you already have a, the structure of an MMO
• 52:27
  that's supposed to build community and keep people coming
• 52:29
  back and give them a reason to come back every day outside of
• 52:33
  community events. Well, that, that's what they
• 52:36
  need to do first, because the flight model for right now, it's
• 52:40
  fine. It's adequate.
• 52:42
  It is it, is it great? Is it the best?
• 52:44
  No, but they don't need that right now.
• 52:46
  They need to build the game and then we're fine.
• 52:50
  They just don't have that. They're, they're trying to,
• 52:52
  they're trying to work on technology and technology and
• 52:54
  technology when right now what's critical is getting more people
• 52:58
  in the game and excited to purchase more ships because
• 53:01
  that's how they fund themselves, you know?
• 53:08
  Yeah, no, that's a fairpoint. I would, I would also say that I
• 53:11
  think the flight model isn't like the only thing.
• 53:17
  I don't think that's what I don't think that's taking away
• 53:20
  the resources. I think it was actually taking
• 53:22
  away the resources is Squadron and they're still working on
• 53:25
  Squadron and they're not working on Star Citizen.
• 53:28
  And I think that's that's just the truth.
• 53:30
  I mean, they're they're going back and they're having to redo
• 53:33
  an entire game because it's now too old and needs all of its
• 53:38
  graphics redone, needs all of its sound redone.
• 53:40
  And you know, they said, oh, that should free up resources
• 53:45
  for, you know, PT or PU, but. Right, but it's like that's what
• 53:50
  we the first of all, that's what we paid for.
• 53:51
  I mean I don't know about y'all but that's what I paid for is to
• 53:54
  work on the P the the live MMO game.
• 53:59
  That is actually an interesting question because different
• 54:01
  people backed for different reasons the.
• 54:03
  Different, right, Yeah, yeah, If you backed for the single player
• 54:07
  game, you're probably great. If you backed for the MMO like
• 54:11
  like I did, I'm like, well, I don't like it's it does look
• 54:14
  cool. Mark Hamill and whatever looks
• 54:16
  great. Wasn't the MMO the original
• 54:19
  thing and then the the the. Squadron was the original.
• 54:24
  Was Squadron the original? Yeah.
• 54:27
  So yeah, from the Kickstarter backer.
• 54:29
  But then it just kind of started growing, like, Oh yeah, we have
• 54:31
  a multiplayer function. Chris Roberts kept running his
• 54:35
  mouth. Yeah, they just, it kept
• 54:38
  growing. I mean, and the on the one hand,
• 54:41
  thanks. Because like what we have today
• 54:44
  is all, all things said, it's very impressive.
• 54:52
  I mean, yes, all things said, let me put it this way, OK, we
• 54:57
  got Star Citizen. As for much critiques that I
• 54:59
  have of Sig and everything else like that, yes, I'm playing
• 55:02
  every single day, but to not critique it when there's obvious
• 55:07
  flaws is intellectually dishonest.
• 55:09
  So anyways, but to give the appreciation for it at the same
• 55:14
  time I found community tell I went to LA.
• 55:19
  Well, I'm sorry, I live in LA, but I went to sitcom here in LA.
• 55:25
  I've met org mates, I talked to Youtubers and, you know, and
• 55:32
  there's, there's, there's a lot that is surrounding this game.
• 55:35
  And that's a, there's a reason for that is because they have
• 55:37
  built something that is worth sticking around for, that is
• 55:40
  worth investing in. And I do believe that.
• 55:44
  But you know, I mean, OK, it's been 12 years.
• 55:51
  The single player game is is a great thing, But what keeps your
• 55:56
  what keeps you going is the MMO and they need.
• 55:58
  To develop that we don't even know if the single player game
• 56:01
  is a great thing. I no, I mean it, It's, it's
• 56:04
  great. But again, but what?
• 56:06
  We don't know that it it. It might be a total disaster.
• 56:11
  Well, to be fair, most of what we, most of what we've seen of
• 56:14
  the single player game was a movie.
• 56:17
  Like it wasn't even gameplay. It was some turret gameplay and
• 56:22
  a little bit of like walking around like that.
• 56:26
  Most of what we saw when they showed it was just, it was
• 56:29
  literally it was an hour or an hour and a it was a long, a long
• 56:33
  beginning intro. It was mostly just a movie.
• 56:36
  That's what I want from Chris Roberts game though, especially
• 56:39
  from the Crisis engine. Kind of what I want I mean by
• 56:44
  by. Now, this is not the crisis
• 56:45
  engine. I mean you can have legacy.
• 56:49
  Code, but still, I mean this is I mean everything about it still
• 56:53
  looks behaves that way. The jitter that you get from
• 56:56
  every time you used to drop the Dang that's cry engine stuff
• 57:00
  like. So much I will say on Vulcan, I
• 57:05
  don't, you can't, you almost can't tell.
• 57:08
  But like the lighting is just a little bit more alive, you know?
• 57:16
  And I'm excited to see what they do, but I need to have
• 57:19
  community. I need to know who's standing in
• 57:21
  front of me 5 feet away on the station.
• 57:23
  I should have a way to do that and be able to talk to them and
• 57:26
  maybe have local chat and may be able to recruit people, maybe
• 57:30
  have org chat, maybe have these other things, the basic
• 57:34
  necessities that keep people coming back every single day.
• 57:37
  So you can have those community events and then everybody
• 57:40
  meeting up and hey, we're going to go knock this out today.
• 57:42
  Cool boom. Because not everybody wants to
• 57:45
  join Discord. Well.
• 57:46
  Good, good news. Good news is 3 years ago they
• 57:50
  said they were putting that in. Well, you know, we should talk
• 57:54
  to Jens and see when that might come back in.
• 57:57
  Or Jens, sorry. Let's see where you're not.
• 58:00
  You're not, You're not. You're not German.
• 58:02
  I don't think we fully established this department.
• 58:05
  He's from Europe. He's from Europe.
• 58:09
  Somewhere in Europe he he works in development.
• 58:14
  You know, it's, it's really cool 'cause the other night Anubis
• 58:17
  Knight got very drunk. Well, I got very, I don't know.
• 58:20
  And and Jens, Jens was killing it.
• 58:25
  Yeah, we had a we had a good hour and a half.
• 58:28
  We had a good hour and a half of Jens.
• 58:29
  Yeah, maybe you were funnier. Can we were just more jovial.
• 58:34
  German SO. Or more more jovial.
• 58:39
  I don't know what his accent was, it just sounded like
• 58:42
  Europe, like if he took a bus around Europe really fast.
• 58:48
  I thought you were doing. What's the guy who does the
• 58:50
  flight model from Germany? What's his name?
• 58:52
  I have no idea. But he's got like the pseudo
• 58:55
  Mohawk thing, you know what I'm talking about.
• 58:57
  Yeah, yeah. No, I mean it.
• 58:58
  It, it is just really funny the amount of laid back, super
• 59:04
  subdued, just calm and reverent devs they have like it's just
• 59:10
  like from what I hear, it's I was looking at, I was looking
• 59:15
  them up last night because I was trying to figure out what
• 59:17
  happens when you know, you have like a billion dollars and
• 59:21
  you've been running a project all this time and you know, they
• 59:23
  got like what 1300 or I think they had to lay some people off.
• 59:27
  I mean, every company has. Over 1000 employees.
• 59:30
  Yeah. I mean 1000 employees and I was
• 59:34
  looking it up and they actually like most people love working
• 59:36
  there. So I got to commend a.
• 59:38
  Little gathered. Yeah.
• 59:42
  Considering. Yeah, they got a lot of laid
• 59:43
  back people. I wouldn't think that.
• 59:45
  So let's talk about some of these laid back people.
• 59:48
  You saw the latest SCL with the the new audio guy.
• 59:53
  Didn't see that, not. I did.
• 59:55
  Because. He's he, he's, he's just a
• 59:58
  couple of weeks away from being broken.
• 1:00:05
  Way. Too hopeful?
• 1:00:07
  And at the same time, I was like, this guy doesn't know what
• 1:00:10
  he fucking got into. Yeah, dude, he's like.
• 1:00:14
  Well, I'm here now, so you'll be getting these real quick.
• 1:00:17
  And I was like, bro, no chance, no chance.
• 1:00:21
  Does he even know where he's working?
• 1:00:24
  Yeah. Do you do you think when he's
• 1:00:26
  looking the he's looking for the old files?
• 1:00:28
  He's. Like we got to find them, right?
• 1:00:30
  Now. Please just go through a 10
• 1:00:34
  point. MP threes just don't disappear.
• 1:00:40
  See, I mean, he seems qualified and everything and he seems
• 1:00:43
  really cool and and really nice. I'm just.
• 1:00:45
  Very he, he's very optimistic and he's, he seems like he's, he
• 1:00:50
  has a plan. It's just like I hope they give
• 1:00:52
  him the runway to to to implement what he wants to do.
• 1:00:57
  Yeah. And I mean, I don't mean to like
• 1:00:59
  this in a derogatory sense, but like it's just audio and I love,
• 1:01:03
  I love it like when it's good and stuff.
• 1:01:04
  But like in terms of actual like development and when it takes to
• 1:01:09
  put all like I've put audio into projects similar to this before.
• 1:01:13
  Like it, it's not hard to implement necessarily.
• 1:01:19
  Now I know they're doing a lot of other things with like
• 1:01:22
  spatial audio and like they're trying to like add weight to it
• 1:01:27
  and, and everything. So I, my point is like, I
• 1:01:31
  believe that it could come in very quickly.
• 1:01:34
  Like in terms of I say just audio just mean that like they
• 1:01:37
  can, you could do that relatively quickly compared to
• 1:01:40
  everything else in the game. But man, I just, I, I, I heard
• 1:01:47
  his confidence and I felt like he's doesn't know what the fuck.
• 1:01:51
  He's he's here. He's getting into dude.
• 1:01:55
  Well, Chris Rod, he's going to have it done.
• 1:01:56
  And then Chris Rod is going to like, yeah, but can we do
• 1:01:59
  something totally different? Well, I mean, on one hand, for
• 1:02:06
  for his sake right on, because, you know, who knows what happens
• 1:02:12
  when one point O comes out and the game is officially released
• 1:02:15
  and do you have a job? Because, you know, this is, this
• 1:02:19
  is a very AI economy. So in development, you know,
• 1:02:25
  it's a little harder to do with AI, although AI is definitely
• 1:02:28
  aiding it because if you're not using it, you're behind.
• 1:02:33
  But the more Chris changes things, the more he has a job.
• 1:02:37
  There seems to be no reason to change course.
• 1:02:40
  I just think squadron is going to be ancillary to how they make
• 1:02:47
  a lot of money. I think it's just going to be
• 1:02:50
  we're going to get it more of APU.
• 1:02:51
  If squadron does well, I think it helps everything.
• 1:02:54
  If it doesn't do well, I think you still have the PU.
• 1:02:57
  I'd love to see Squadron on Xbox and eventually the PU.
• 1:03:06
  I could see Squadron making it, but I don't see the PU making it
• 1:03:09
  Any consoles. Well, I don't know.
• 1:03:13
  I mean, I mean their server meshing is working well.
• 1:03:17
  I mean, honestly, it is. It's one of the best things to
• 1:03:21
  happen to Star Citizen in a long time.
• 1:03:23
  I mean, we have server errors and it comes right back and it
• 1:03:25
  works. So we got to.
• 1:03:27
  Recovery is nice too. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:03:29
  Yeah, their inventory, what the hell?
• 1:03:33
  But you know, still, there's potential there.
• 1:03:37
  And if they play it right, this is this is a game that will over
• 1:03:41
  shadow GTA. Yeah.
• 1:03:45
  They've got a lot of work to do then.
• 1:03:48
  Just remembering, I'm thinking of V1, I was like, Oh yeah,
• 1:03:50
  inventory V1 from like, yeah, I remember that.
• 1:03:55
  And now I'm thinking of, oh, the armor.
• 1:03:58
  You know, everybody keeps their armor when they die.
• 1:04:01
  I think it's going to be so long before we see V2.
• 1:04:05
  There's probably going to be a backlash from them if we're, you
• 1:04:10
  know, restoring the fact that you lose your armor when you get
• 1:04:13
  killed. I just aren't.
• 1:04:17
  People aren't. Good.
• 1:04:18
  Like what the hell all of a sudden, like.
• 1:04:20
  I mean if, if you can, if you can print a person, you can
• 1:04:23
  print armor. And dodge a wrench.
• 1:04:29
  Yep. No, I mean it doesn't it?
• 1:04:32
  It makes sense to me that they so.
• 1:04:34
  What you're, what you're saying is they probably never go back
• 1:04:36
  then and we're just on this train of like, if you die with
• 1:04:39
  your armor, you keep it. Look, sometimes you have to
• 1:04:44
  sacrifice some stimulation aspects to make it into an MMO
• 1:04:49
  where people can enjoy themselves.
• 1:04:51
  Because that is if it would, OK, there's Rust and there's
• 1:04:55
  everything else like that, and that's fine.
• 1:04:57
  But a lot of people just kind of play individually because
• 1:04:59
  they're playing against the environment, you know?
• 1:05:03
  But but you have things like Star Citizen and it's supposed
• 1:05:08
  to be social. It's supposed to be everybody
• 1:05:10
  seeing a living universe. But in a living universe,
• 1:05:15
  there's going to be some bad guys, there's going to be some
• 1:05:17
  chaos, and there's got to be some weight to your decisions.
• 1:05:21
  There should be some consequences.
• 1:05:23
  If you make a left when you should have made a right.
• 1:05:25
  If you zag when you should have zigged, you should.
• 1:05:28
  There should be consequences and if.
• 1:05:30
  There's never. Any consequences If, if, if
• 1:05:33
  there's always a respawn and you, you know, there's, there's,
• 1:05:36
  there's no way of losing anything.
• 1:05:40
  I mean it, it loses its lesser. So any achievement?
• 1:05:43
  You make. Lose you lose it loses the
• 1:05:49
  weight. Like, OK, I, I, I defeated those
• 1:05:52
  enemies. OK, well, big deal.
• 1:05:53
  They're just going to respond with all their shit.
• 1:05:56
  I mean well. How many, how many times do you
• 1:05:58
  all backspace to quickly get where you need to get to?
• 1:06:04
  Like I do it so much more now. Obviously keeping the armor.
• 1:06:09
  I mean, you know, I mean. He's just being the backspace
• 1:06:13
  express. The fact that you can print a
• 1:06:17
  person with a digital ghost or whatever happens.
• 1:06:22
  I I'm pretty sure it's like probably the same as all the
• 1:06:24
  carbon or whatever, but the fact that you can do that and like
• 1:06:27
  print an actual human being, they wake up and they're good to
• 1:06:30
  go right, OK, cool. That's the that's actually the
• 1:06:33
  most futuristic thing in the entire game.
• 1:06:35
  But anyways, you know, the fact that you can do that, it makes
• 1:06:40
  sense. I mean, it's absurd.
• 1:06:42
  It's absurd, honestly, it's absurd.
• 1:06:44
  It's a mechanic disguise, just technology.
• 1:06:48
  The equipment's copyrighted. You can't.
• 1:06:50
  You can't print that. Well, you know what?
• 1:06:54
  If you own the digital license to it, like iTunes, you can you,
• 1:06:58
  you can play that song anytime you like.
• 1:07:01
  You can have your armor anytime you like.
• 1:07:03
  It'll reprint with you. Yeah, but I mean.
• 1:07:05
  Humans. There's there's every.
• 1:07:07
  Armor. Makeup.
• 1:07:08
  Of humans all similar like. I think they should.
• 1:07:12
  Only have a set. Amount of organic components
• 1:07:14
  whereas armor you know what if you have like a crazy armor from
• 1:07:17
  like the moons of you know crazy town like not.
• 1:07:22
  Every. Med bed's going to have that,
• 1:07:24
  whereas every Med bed having like the basic materials for
• 1:07:27
  human organic creation like that seems a little bit vaguely more
• 1:07:32
  plausible. I mean automatically.
• 1:07:35
  They're separate, like they're separate machines.
• 1:07:38
  I, I don't know, I mean. Armor printing different things.
• 1:07:43
  I mean, does it really necessarily have to be, I mean,
• 1:07:45
  if it's, if it's putting together molecules and proteins
• 1:07:51
  assemble, you know, like like literally printing out proteins,
• 1:07:54
  DNA, everything else like that from a, from a digital file.
• 1:07:58
  I mean, if, if you're really going to go into the tech of it,
• 1:08:02
  it's like, OK, if they can do it that fast, like just instantly,
• 1:08:07
  it's already absurd. It changes everything.
• 1:08:09
  That doesn't matter. Everybody is just a bio.
• 1:08:13
  No one is anything else. Isn't tier one temporary?
• 1:08:17
  Is that the? Tier one is temporary.
• 1:08:19
  As it was sold. Yeah.
• 1:08:21
  So basically everybody's fighting over copyrights.
• 1:08:26
  So eventually there will be, and that's I guess what I'm talking
• 1:08:29
  about, like there will be this, hey, we're going to Tier 2 of
• 1:08:32
  this, which is you lose your armor, right?
• 1:08:36
  You have to insure your armor. Yeah.
• 1:08:40
  Insure your armor. So there is the idea to
• 1:08:43
  replicate the armor, OK. Yes.
• 1:08:45
  It's not like in the bed with you.
• 1:08:48
  OK. Yeah, this the Elite Dangerous
• 1:08:52
  insurance, you know, system is probably the best one that, you
• 1:08:57
  know, that they could implement and I I'm hoping that they move
• 1:09:00
  more towards that way because there needs to be penal
• 1:09:03
  penalties. I mean, dying shouldn't be I
• 1:09:06
  don't I don't really care about calling up my ship, you know,
• 1:09:09
  fast. It doesn't it's, it's, it's
• 1:09:11
  nothing. I've got like millions and
• 1:09:12
  millions and billions of fake money, you know, I mean, like,
• 1:09:15
  it doesn't matter. But, you know, if it started
• 1:09:19
  costing me a lot to die, I'd think twice.
• 1:09:22
  It'd be, you know, kind of, I think twice about running into
• 1:09:27
  combat. Right, it goes back to what
• 1:09:30
  Wicked was saying with consequence.
• 1:09:32
  There should definitely be having your armor being one of
• 1:09:35
  the most valuable things I think you have in the game.
• 1:09:37
  It's your cosmetics, it's your. It's something you cherish, I
• 1:09:43
  think. Well don't worry about the
• 1:09:45
  cosmetics. Once they start selling armor
• 1:09:47
  skins that'll be handled, it won't matter.
• 1:09:50
  What? Your armor.
• 1:09:51
  Is can of worms. I just think it's one of the
• 1:09:56
  things that people as a player, they actually like really care
• 1:09:58
  about losing or potentially thinking a lot about losing and
• 1:10:03
  we kind of recently have done away with that so.
• 1:10:07
  If you don't have the money, you lose it.
• 1:10:10
  You got to keep that thing going.
• 1:10:12
  You can keep it in your storage fine.
• 1:10:13
  It'll stay there forever. But if you wear it because you
• 1:10:16
  want to show it off, which people are doing now and we
• 1:10:19
  could see I mean I love it. Not everybody's running out of
• 1:10:22
  white around white. It's cool.
• 1:10:24
  I know you know and they got great designers, honestly,
• 1:10:27
  amazing shit Kudos, but make it cost you money to keep it
• 1:10:32
  because it it creates scarcity. I mean, it's and.
• 1:10:35
  That's what he was talking about with the insurance, right?
• 1:10:38
  Like so that's OK. Make it significant.
• 1:10:44
  Yeah, make it to where you don't want to be.
• 1:10:46
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:10:49
  And that way you're right. Because it would suck to have
• 1:10:52
  something you finally found as an armor piece that you really
• 1:10:54
  liked, or you discovered it out in some treasure hunting thing
• 1:10:58
  and then through some bug or, you know, or whatever, you wind
• 1:11:04
  up losing it. And it would be absolutely
• 1:11:07
  amazing to have that insured and some ability to replace that.
• 1:11:10
  It's a money sink. We need more money sinks.
• 1:11:15
  Yeah, but the currency is inflated.
• 1:11:16
  Why not so? The the.
• 1:11:20
  The only reason they should keep like not let tier one or tier 0,
• 1:11:24
  whatever they're calling it right now is because the game is
• 1:11:27
  still so in in such an alpha state and such a buggy mess.
• 1:11:31
  And there's, you know, you could lose your whole character for
• 1:11:34
  some stupid glitch in the matrix.
• 1:11:37
  But in the future that should go away when the game is polished,
• 1:11:41
  you know, and you lose, you lose.
• 1:11:47
  There's you have. I mean, without loss, the game
• 1:11:50
  will become meaningless. Yep.
• 1:11:53
  If you cannot if. If.
• 1:11:55
  If I can't shoot you and take your shit then then your shit
• 1:12:01
  has no value. Yep.
• 1:12:04
  Yeah. 100% And I don't think we shouldn't, we don't necessarily
• 1:12:09
  need that right now because of the state of, you know, the game
• 1:12:13
  and this whole this whole talk about, you know, the argument
• 1:12:17
  about how how the replication works of armor or this or that,
• 1:12:22
  that's irrelevant. We don't care about that
• 1:12:24
  technology stuff. We just need the gameplay of it.
• 1:12:28
  You know, the game we want. We, we, I mean, for me, I care
• 1:12:31
  about the game of it. You know what makes sense as a
• 1:12:34
  game? You know, at the at the end of
• 1:12:36
  the day, we're in a game. You know, if we're going to
• 1:12:39
  start simulating raindrops bouncing off of my my aileron on
• 1:12:43
  my Starship in atmo, what the fuck are we even talking about
• 1:12:48
  anymore? It's no longer a game, all
• 1:12:50
  right? We got it.
• 1:12:51
  We got to dial it down a little bit somewhere.
• 1:12:54
  I mean, right? It makes no sense.
• 1:12:56
  I mean, have you ever gotten like carried away?
• 1:12:58
  Like you're working on something and you get carried away with
• 1:13:01
  some detail or whatever, and then eventually you just like
• 1:13:06
  scrap that thing. Like I've, I've done that and
• 1:13:08
  that happens all the time because you're being creative
• 1:13:11
  and you're figuring out and that's like part of the process.
• 1:13:13
  But then you don't do that for 12 years.
• 1:13:17
  Yeah, you need to get the basics in like, like, like like we get,
• 1:13:22
  you know, I think we're we're both saying the same thing here.
• 1:13:26
  You got to get the game in the game, you know, because you can
• 1:13:31
  always chase perfect. You could chase perfect for
• 1:13:33
  another 40 years, but you're not going to get to it.
• 1:13:38
  Build the game first, allow people to enjoy their lives, sit
• 1:13:42
  on the toilets, sit on their toilets, poop and then allow
• 1:13:48
  that to be generated into new people as the dev who was just
• 1:13:53
  in here was so excited to tell everybody about.
• 1:13:56
  Yen's floor is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:59
  You got to have a life in the game.
• 1:14:01
  Otherwise, you're really you're riding on a community that is
• 1:14:06
  that that will wear thin. I think we're like, I don't want
• 1:14:13
  to say we're getting close to that, but there is this kind of
• 1:14:16
  like edge where like all this new content is like really cool
• 1:14:20
  and, and, and we like it, but there's number one, it's not
• 1:14:22
  working for everybody as we've heard today.
• 1:14:27
  And then #2 it's like, well, this isn't sustainable.
• 1:14:31
  Like we're going to have an event this month and next month
• 1:14:35
  and next month. Like that's not sustainable.
• 1:14:38
  You still don't have the core gameplay grind, whatever it is
• 1:14:44
  in there. I think absolutely.
• 1:14:46
  Touching on it, that's that's what drive I mean, gosh, what
• 1:14:49
  really steams my clams the most is it's just the fact that.
• 1:14:53
  Steams my clams we're we're steam clams you've.
• 1:14:58
  Never heard that. Before.
• 1:14:59
  But we have. All these missions.
• 1:15:01
  Like there was so. Many missions I was thinking
• 1:15:04
  about like, I'm, you know, I'm sitting there and I'm, you know,
• 1:15:06
  I'm based out of Orson this time, this patch cycle.
• 1:15:09
  And I'm like. Where are those platform
• 1:15:11
  missions like I kept looking? For.
• 1:15:15
  Them in the Dang and it's. Just I had never done one of
• 1:15:18
  those. They were.
• 1:15:19
  They were so freaking cool. I've heard like you could have.
• 1:15:23
  Never done one. There, there was so.
• 1:15:25
  Many other. Missions.
• 1:15:27
  There's like a list of missions that goes on.
• 1:15:29
  I saw a great post on this that was like what happened to all
• 1:15:33
  this great content that was that was there.
• 1:15:37
  It made these locations special. There was tons to do, like if
• 1:15:41
  you were like the, the gravity well of whether it be Orson or,
• 1:15:46
  you know, these different, these different planets there, I feel
• 1:15:49
  like there was more to do. And so it feels like we've lost
• 1:15:52
  some content. You know what's going.
• 1:15:55
  To happen or I have to redo them away.
• 1:15:57
  We've lost a ton. Yeah, we've lost the shit ton of
• 1:16:01
  content. It was sharding.
• 1:16:03
  I think that that that hit it. Right, All that older stuff is
• 1:16:07
  useless. They're going to have to just
• 1:16:09
  remake it if they want to make it again and hope hopefully they
• 1:16:12
  have some of like the logic and stuff that translates for them.
• 1:16:17
  But the the other part of this is the talent.
• 1:16:21
  So citizen gun two or three years ago, there's a lot of
• 1:16:24
  people that you don't see anymore and I don't know if they
• 1:16:27
  work at the company still or or what, like the UI team, that old
• 1:16:31
  UI team member. And then you had that that UI
• 1:16:34
  where like you went to the fucking the loot, the item box
• 1:16:38
  and you had to like push three to four different buttons to
• 1:16:42
  just get your item right. And everyone's like this stinks.
• 1:16:46
  And they they they shut it down. Ever since then.
• 1:16:50
  I don't know if that is UI team still works at CIG or if they
• 1:16:55
  got a totally different UI team since then.
• 1:16:58
  It sounds like that didn't work. And then we haven't heard from
• 1:17:01
  them since. But we did hear from some
• 1:17:04
  someone else from EU, from the UI team that I'd never seen
• 1:17:07
  before. So are they in this like cycle
• 1:17:11
  of like, OK, we're going to hire these people, they're going to
• 1:17:13
  work on this thing for one, 2-3 years.
• 1:17:17
  It's not received well. Oh, we're going to can them or
• 1:17:20
  maybe they quit or whatever. And then you've lost all the
• 1:17:24
  knowledge. And then you're starting.
• 1:17:28
  Square 1 again. Is it is it reopening like
• 1:17:31
  reopening some of these missions We weren't around for when those
• 1:17:35
  missions were built. The opening those is like can of
• 1:17:38
  worms, far more trouble than just to build new missions.
• 1:17:43
  But that's such a shame. I mean, I would love a month
• 1:17:45
  where it's because we know the people making all these events,
• 1:17:49
  we see them on, you know, inside Star season every single time.
• 1:17:53
  Like it'd be great if they one month they were like, hey, those
• 1:17:56
  three missions that we had those legacy missions or, or the
• 1:17:59
  missions that were pre 4 point O they say, hey, we we brought
• 1:18:04
  them back that 'cause they were great.
• 1:18:07
  They were fantastic. Like there's just so many of
• 1:18:10
  them now that I'm thinking about like Caterpillar missions.
• 1:18:13
  Yeah, I think they only have Zeno threats 890 mission.
• 1:18:17
  Like that's the only one. Mission center missions,
• 1:18:21
  Anything on the distribution centers?
• 1:18:23
  Well it'd be cool because they could take Siege of Orson and
• 1:18:27
  just basically put that anywhere.
• 1:18:29
  It doesn't have to be at Orson. They could put that at A at a
• 1:18:32
  distribution center on friggin micro tech.
• 1:18:35
  They could use Siege of micro tech distribution centers and
• 1:18:39
  it's basically the same thing. You go in there, you shoot a
• 1:18:42
  bunch of baddies, you get to there were like 3 bosses or
• 1:18:45
  whatever. I, I'm waving because they had
• 1:18:51
  something like that that was designed for a fight for pyro or
• 1:18:55
  something in the early PTU build.
• 1:18:58
  They had an amazing mission that was you had to essentially
• 1:19:02
  retake a distribution center, but you had to shut down the
• 1:19:05
  anti air system and everything. Like they had that for that
• 1:19:10
  event and then it just vanished. Like they said, Oh, we're going
• 1:19:13
  to bring it back for a later segment of fight for Pyro or
• 1:19:18
  whatever, and it's just like, well, where'd it go?
• 1:19:25
  And then this makes you think about all the time they're
• 1:19:28
  wasting and money they're wasting.
• 1:19:29
  Like if there's, I understand you're developing and you do
• 1:19:32
  throw things away and like any, any creative endeavor that
• 1:19:36
  there's things like that. But again, like you're 12 years
• 1:19:40
  into this now you have to have some kind of like.
• 1:19:43
  Yeah. And I'm not even sure I buy the
• 1:19:45
  sharding just because we had that 890 mission post 4 point O
• 1:19:49
  and we've had that for going on almost, I want to say every
• 1:19:52
  single patch. That one took a while to come
• 1:19:55
  back though. I mean that that was it took a,
• 1:19:58
  took a few patches before they brought that one back which.
• 1:20:03
  Is the. Truth.
• 1:20:04
  The legwork it takes to restore some of these missions.
• 1:20:08
  I feel like there's one poor SAP at CIG tasked with restoring.
• 1:20:13
  Yens that's what he does our. Content.
• 1:20:16
  That's his department. That's Yens.
• 1:20:18
  He has to go and take all the old shit and bring it up.
• 1:20:21
  Yeah, dude, he got he he went there and they gave him a Game
• 1:20:24
  Boy Advanced. They're like, this is what we
• 1:20:26
  started development on. Can you translate these
• 1:20:29
  missions? I'll tell you he's, he's the
• 1:20:31
  best employee there because I, I, I want to see, you know,
• 1:20:36
  Levsky and, and they need to start bringing these things in.
• 1:20:38
  I and I'm sorry, but like there is no foundation to the game.
• 1:20:44
  I can fly around, but I mean, I've seen kind of most of the
• 1:20:48
  things I want it to mean something.
• 1:20:50
  I want to build my home, I want to build my base, I want to
• 1:20:53
  build this and you know, Squadron 42A.
• 1:20:58
  Little bit of take this mission cycle system like.
• 1:21:03
  Yeah, but but what is Squadron Credit 42 going to be For me?
• 1:21:06
  It's going to be for an experience I'm going to have for
• 1:21:08
  a week when I get through it and what am I going to do then I'm
• 1:21:12
  going to go right back to the PU and play it for the next 5
• 1:21:15
  years. You need to just delay Squadron
• 1:21:19
  42. And as you know, everybody on
• 1:21:23
  yeah, yeah, that that's what it is, dude. 42, hopefully more
• 1:21:28
  than a week. Hopefully you get 100 hours out
• 1:21:30
  of it or whatever. But yeah, dude, once that's
• 1:21:34
  done, it's done. Yeah, I think there's a lot of
• 1:21:38
  people, I think people that may have bought for Squadron 42 or
• 1:21:41
  want that kind of cinema, Chris Roberts, Wing Commander
• 1:21:45
  experience. I would say they were in the
• 1:21:48
  crazy minority compared to everybody else who bought for
• 1:21:52
  the PU and. I think a lot of, and I don't
• 1:21:57
  use this term lightly, normies. We're thinking Squadron 42
• 1:22:03
  though, like that's, that's what they're waiting on.
• 1:22:07
  And it's great for Xbox, but what pays the bills?
• 1:22:12
  Yeah, I mean if, if it, if it, if it pays the bills, put it on
• 1:22:18
  it. I feel it's very annoying.
• 1:22:21
  Selling a $230 ship and then having droves of people buy that
• 1:22:26
  ship. That's because the PU is the
• 1:22:30
  only thing that pays the bills. I.
• 1:22:34
  Mean well. Squadron 42 is interesting.
• 1:22:36
  Isn't it like the only thing that.
• 1:22:38
  Pays the bills is ship sails. Look to the normies outside of
• 1:22:44
  the Stars Citizen. Whole ecosphere.
• 1:22:47
  No one knows what Squadron 42 is.
• 1:22:50
  They've never heard of it. Right.
• 1:22:51
  Yeah. But the stars in we're.
• 1:22:52
  All we're all far. But.
• 1:22:54
  That's. True No.
• 1:22:55
  Normies about Squadron 42 before they hear about PU I just.
• 1:22:59
  Hear. I hear people say stars to this
• 1:23:01
  a couple. Of years ago and people know
• 1:23:03
  what Squadron 42 is. People know what Star Citizen
• 1:23:06
  is. Most people think most people
• 1:23:08
  outside of the community of Star Citizen and the people that
• 1:23:11
  actively play it think it's a joke and a RIP off and a scam.
• 1:23:15
  That's what most people think. That opinion is starting to
• 1:23:18
  change over time because it has been more playable.
• 1:23:21
  I mean, this a cargo elevator thing.
• 1:23:24
  Is it kind of inexcusable? It shouldn't have happened.
• 1:23:27
  Yeah, 100%. But stars that is in is the game
• 1:23:31
  that people know and they know that it you know when you go to
• 1:23:34
  describe it, when I sell someone on it, I don't sell them on
• 1:23:37
  squadron for you. Oh dude, you're going to be able
• 1:23:39
  to see Gillian Anderson should be really cool.
• 1:23:42
  And then like Mark Hamill and then you're going to go on a
• 1:23:44
  space adventure. But if I tell them about my
• 1:23:49
  experiences of like, trying to get Corundum over to Pyro and
• 1:23:54
  then getting, you know, pulled out of warp, and then like, my
• 1:24:00
  ship's disabled and I have a gun and I start rolling around my
• 1:24:03
  ship trying to fight them off. And then, no, they capture me
• 1:24:06
  and they take me and I'm like, that's cool.
• 1:24:10
  Yeah, 'cause it's real people. That's the game.
• 1:24:15
  I I agree. I'm I'm, I, I would just add
• 1:24:19
  that like when I'm funding the game, I'm funding it, not for
• 1:24:24
  the normies. Like I'm funding it because
• 1:24:26
  Chris Roberts kind of made out there with the promise like,
• 1:24:28
  Hey, you space nerd, I'm going to make a game for you.
• 1:24:33
  Like, and even things of like, well, we got to make console,
• 1:24:36
  got to go to radial menu to get this ready for the consoles.
• 1:24:38
  And I was like, gosh, I remember the Kickstarter when it was like
• 1:24:42
  the very first words on that trailer at the Kickstarter were
• 1:24:44
  like, my death is been like over exaggerated.
• 1:24:48
  And it was talking about the death of PC gaming.
• 1:24:51
  Like so I feel like so many people backed this project were
• 1:24:55
  nerds and like or not nerds, but like we just saw sci-fi people
• 1:25:00
  and we backed this project not for Oh, something that they can
• 1:25:05
  market like a single player campaign.
• 1:25:07
  Like the PU is where he sold it. Like that's where that's where
• 1:25:11
  you really made the vision come alive.
• 1:25:13
  And like now it just feels like, I feel like if you polled all
• 1:25:17
  the people that bought ships and you asked them and you said,
• 1:25:20
  hey, right now, where would you want your directions of
• 1:25:23
  development? How would you split the pie
• 1:25:25
  chart? You're going to see the PU
• 1:25:27
  overwhelmingly. And that's with the promise of
• 1:25:31
  like, I'm looking forward to it too, the game.
• 1:25:34
  But I just think we all backed for APU or at least when I say
• 1:25:38
  wheel, maybe I'm just speaking for like, I don't know.
• 1:25:42
  I thought a lot of this in my I. Don't know There's there's.
• 1:25:45
  Probably other people that did do it for a campaign.
• 1:25:48
  I just do think they're in the minority.
• 1:25:49
  Most people I would talk to would say it's for the PU.
• 1:25:52
  There's hundreds of thousands or millions.
• 1:25:54
  I don't know what the actual population is playing Stars.
• 1:25:58
  It isn't everyday. No one's playing Squadron 42, I
• 1:26:03
  mean. Yeah, I guess.
• 1:26:05
  But no, I agree. I back from PU.
• 1:26:08
  That's why I'm here. I just feel like the star power,
• 1:26:15
  the sexy Hollywood blockbuster appeal, is where Squadron 42
• 1:26:20
  comes in and that that can help mainstream and legitimize the
• 1:26:25
  game. Well, not just the game, the
• 1:26:27
  company. Yeah, that's what you.
• 1:26:30
  Got to think about. There's, there's, there's a lot
• 1:26:33
  of efforts there, a lot of efforts there where they've
• 1:26:38
  releasing a mission. If you're going to do this, if
• 1:26:40
  they're going to do this thing where they release the missions,
• 1:26:43
  like there's got to be some PU test of like elevators working,
• 1:26:48
  not having a single SCU box to have entry to have access to the
• 1:26:52
  six missions or whatever. You can't even do that because
• 1:26:55
  the SCU box is way or have like a million SU capacity.
• 1:27:01
  So it's just little, little things like that where it's like
• 1:27:05
  I, I back to make this remotely just something that I want to
• 1:27:09
  enjoy with a friend. So I just I, I empathize with a
• 1:27:11
  lot of the frustration out there.
• 1:27:13
  That is new event. How long do we wait before new
• 1:27:19
  event is on the up and up, you know?
• 1:27:23
  Like let's pause Squadron 42, pause the new flight model,
• 1:27:29
  pause, you know, ray tracing or I don't know how big these
• 1:27:33
  departments are for each. One, they can't.
• 1:27:35
  They can't. No, they can't.
• 1:27:36
  No, no, no. They cannot pause squadron right
• 1:27:39
  now. It that, yeah, that doesn't make
• 1:27:41
  sense. They're in too deep.
• 1:27:44
  It's something cost like. No.
• 1:27:46
  Kick that out the door. They gotta finish.
• 1:27:49
  Pause them one one thing. Pause one.
• 1:27:50
  Thing you guys need to need to also consider is Squadron 42
• 1:27:56
  could be a massive blockbuster of a game.
• 1:28:01
  OK. Yes, if it goes on console.
• 1:28:03
  Or. Forget about just as a game
• 1:28:07
  whether it would irregardless of what platform it's on, Obviously
• 1:28:11
  first, first and foremost, it's going to be APC game.
• 1:28:14
  Do they want it on console? Absolutely.
• 1:28:17
  Because if they can get it on console, they get it in more
• 1:28:19
  people's hands. You get a little bit more the,
• 1:28:22
  the, the, the point being is that it could become a massive
• 1:28:26
  blockbuster and, and right a lot of wrongs and, and, and change a
• 1:28:32
  lot of opinions of CIG, Chris Roberts and the whole effort so
• 1:28:37
  far. There's a lot to be said.
• 1:28:39
  I've played a lot of games that have like quote, UN quote
• 1:28:41
  cinematic quests and them and stuff.
• 1:28:44
  And let me tell you something, I'm an old, grumpy old man that
• 1:28:48
  I've had more feels in some of these so-called, you know,
• 1:28:53
  single player cinematic quest that the feels that you get in
• 1:28:57
  some of these games are incredible.
• 1:29:00
  It's it's like you're inside the book, inside the movie.
• 1:29:04
  You're you're maybe not the main character or maybe you are.
• 1:29:08
  It depends on the game and the genre and so forth.
• 1:29:11
  But at the end of the day, you feel like you're part of it, you
• 1:29:16
  feel like you're in it. And the feels come with that.
• 1:29:19
  And if that's the goal, they're trying, trying to to to get to
• 1:29:24
  with Star Citizen Squadron 42. If they can achieve that and
• 1:29:30
  they can make you make, make you have those feels, it's going to
• 1:29:33
  knock it out of the park. And people are wanting, they're
• 1:29:37
  going to want to continue the adventure.
• 1:29:39
  And where is that going to happen in the PU?
• 1:29:42
  And you know, I, I do agree with that, but to a point, I, I think
• 1:29:46
  that, yeah, those fields might be nice, you know, and they and
• 1:29:53
  they are, they are, they are everything when it comes to
• 1:29:56
  entertainment. We currently already at a time
• 1:29:59
  where people need to find community.
• 1:30:01
  We currently already, I've, I, I know we've all experienced the
• 1:30:05
  fields of man, I've had a shitty day at work.
• 1:30:08
  I'm going to go talk to my friends.
• 1:30:10
  We're going to go fly around and say, so we're going to go do
• 1:30:12
  something. We're going to do something
• 1:30:14
  dumb. We're going to complain about
• 1:30:15
  the elevators. We're going to go do all this.
• 1:30:17
  Those fields right there are way more valuable, and I think they
• 1:30:21
  need to expand upon that. You know, again, I think they
• 1:30:25
  need to just kind of pause things for a little while, build
• 1:30:28
  the mechanics of the game to actually build more communities
• 1:30:32
  and build those fields and then get people excited for Squadron
• 1:30:36
  42 and charge them another 45, which is a bargain, by the way.
• 1:30:40
  You know, I think you know, they can boost sales.
• 1:30:44
  Yeah, they won't be selling it for 45 and they were the other
• 1:30:47
  way around. I.
• 1:30:49
  Think so. The thing is, is that most
• 1:30:51
  people are very insular. Most people are very especially
• 1:30:57
  since since the beginning of the Internet era where people are
• 1:31:03
  constantly online. If you look around in any
• 1:31:06
  waiting room anywhere where there's people gathered, they're
• 1:31:09
  not interacting with each other, their head down in their phone
• 1:31:12
  or their laptop or their their, their ebook reader or whatever.
• 1:31:17
  Nobody's talking to each other, people.
• 1:31:20
  I disagree so strong with that. Finding a community, finding
• 1:31:24
  like minded individuals, that takes effort, that takes time.
• 1:31:28
  But when you're when you're when you're trying to get home from
• 1:31:31
  work and you want to unwind and you don't want to deal with
• 1:31:34
  other more even more people, you just want to put your head down
• 1:31:38
  into a game and experience the game.
• 1:31:40
  And it's something that can make you feel a little bit.
• 1:31:43
  People love that. Yeah, for two weeks it doesn't
• 1:31:47
  matter. Most most movies last for two
• 1:31:50
  hours. I'm sorry it's been out of it.
• 1:31:54
  It's been 2 years of community and friends for me, going
• 1:31:57
  through the UPS and the downs, the people that I've talked to
• 1:32:00
  that we can help support each other, that we could talk to
• 1:32:03
  about things. Well, you there's nothing wrong
• 1:32:04
  with. That connect over that honestly
• 1:32:09
  is much greater of a value of anything.
• 1:32:12
  Trust me. You know when people go out
• 1:32:15
  nowadays, again, I I disagree with you because I run a social
• 1:32:19
  club, OK? It's a Star Trek based social
• 1:32:22
  club. We meet all the time.
• 1:32:24
  We have sewing days. We go to and we go to, we go to
• 1:32:29
  conventions, we're going to bed alert.
• 1:32:31
  Oh yeah, no, completely. But we're not on our phones the
• 1:32:35
  whole time. We're all talking.
• 1:32:37
  We're all hanging out at the bars.
• 1:32:38
  We're going into the con, we're dressing up.
• 1:32:41
  We are finding community and that's more popular nowadays
• 1:32:46
  than it has ever been because people find that community And
• 1:32:50
  no, I mean, they're taking pictures with their phones.
• 1:32:52
  They're sending messages going, hey, you going to be over at
• 1:32:54
  Hall A? OK, yeah, I'm going to be over
• 1:32:55
  there. I mean, there's a lot.
• 1:32:58
  Those people are gathering for the direct purpose of being
• 1:33:01
  together. The example I'm using is just
• 1:33:03
  people out and about. Used to back in my day before
• 1:33:07
  the Internet, when you were out and about, you talked to each
• 1:33:10
  other. You, you met people.
• 1:33:11
  That's how you met people. I mean, I do.
• 1:33:14
  I still do. We still.
• 1:33:16
  I mean, I go to bars, I go to all sorts of different places
• 1:33:19
  and talk to people. Why would you go to just be on
• 1:33:21
  your phone? I mean, I I don't.
• 1:33:24
  I don't know Star Citizen. Maybe this is it.
• 1:33:27
  Maybe this is maybe this? Is just just trying.
• 1:33:29
  To bring it back, bring it back. But people do still connect
• 1:33:34
  every day. And and this is one of those
• 1:33:36
  conduits that instead of two weeks of, you know, hey, that
• 1:33:40
  was a good fun story. Now you've had two years, five
• 1:33:44
  years, six years of people who you know you're going through
• 1:33:49
  some shit or you're you had something to celebrate and they
• 1:33:52
  were there with you. There is there is better to
• 1:33:55
  that. I I I agree because you know, we
• 1:33:59
  have people come in to this area.
• 1:34:01
  I've met mostly everyone here in person wiki.
• 1:34:06
  You're the only one that haven't met.
• 1:34:07
  Maybe wicked. Maybe you're the problem.
• 1:34:10
  Did you ever think about that, Wicked?
• 1:34:12
  I'm not a problem. I'm maybe it's you, but you
• 1:34:15
  know, you should, you should come up here in October.
• 1:34:19
  No. No way, man.
• 1:34:21
  Join every We're all We're all going to be here.
• 1:34:23
  Anubis won't, but we're all going to be here.
• 1:34:25
  Not approach? Why not?
• 1:34:28
  No, no desire. To see To see your friends.
• 1:34:34
  I I mean I can interact with you guys anytime I want, I just
• 1:34:37
  don't. Have Wicket's embarrassed?
• 1:34:38
  He's embarrassed because he doesn't have legs.
• 1:34:40
  And I've been telling him, Wicket, no one cares that you
• 1:34:43
  don't, that you're legless, that that's cool.
• 1:34:47
  That's. Fine, I can make you some.
• 1:34:48
  Did you want you want to make you some electric legs?
• 1:34:54
  I knew a guy who had had no legs and walked on his hands and he
• 1:34:58
  was like, he was fucking jacked, dude.
• 1:35:00
  He would and he could climb up anything because and I realized
• 1:35:04
  this, I was in like I knew him when I was in like high school,
• 1:35:07
  middle school, high school. And your legs really, really
• 1:35:11
  weigh you down a lot. Without legs.
• 1:35:15
  He was like flipping and flinging over things and you
• 1:35:20
  know, this is, this is neither here nor there.
• 1:35:21
  I was I. Was gonna I was gonna say you're
• 1:35:24
  you. You both are correct from
• 1:35:26
  different avenues, but now we're gonna get angry letters from.
• 1:35:31
  From the legless community, From the.
• 1:35:33
  Paraplegic community. The the the the thing about
• 1:35:35
  people without legs, they have. Fantastic.
• 1:35:37
  Handwriting. What they call, you know what
• 1:35:40
  they call people without legs and arms?
• 1:35:41
  No. Wait, wait, stop.
• 1:35:43
  We don't want letters anyway. Where are they gonna send them?
• 1:35:47
  They're not gonna send them anywhere.
• 1:35:48
  Put it in the comments. Wicked.
• 1:35:50
  What do they call people without legs and arms?
• 1:35:53
  Bob. What?
• 1:35:56
  Bob. Bob, Bob.
• 1:35:59
  OK. All right.
• 1:36:00
  All right, I'll let it. No, I mean honestly.
• 1:36:05
  So here's the thing, you know, people who do have who have had
• 1:36:09
  amputations or paraplegics and things like that, honestly
• 1:36:15
  awesome. I mean like, like, like that,
• 1:36:17
  that people, you know, with today's technology and
• 1:36:20
  everything else like that and you know, the progress that
• 1:36:24
  we've made, which we still need to make a lot more, we still
• 1:36:27
  need to make. The thing is though, I'll I'll
• 1:36:29
  just say. I'll just say I did not want him
• 1:36:31
  to make me a sandwich after walking around on those palms
• 1:36:33
  all day. That's fine.
• 1:36:36
  OK. I mean, hand washing, I think
• 1:36:39
  it's still hand. But we could, we could bring it
• 1:36:41
  back to Star Citizen because we're supposed to be getting
• 1:36:44
  Yeah. What's the I?
• 1:36:45
  I wanted to talk about like how? VoIP or the FOIP?
• 1:36:49
  VoIP, FOIP, whatever, it's working I think more common.
• 1:36:54
  Does it work? I thought they couldn't make it
• 1:36:56
  work. Somebody the like.
• 1:36:58
  That's that's a really cool part of the game now that I think I
• 1:37:01
  have like I have a lot of problems with obviously the
• 1:37:05
  events and stuff not working, the fact that the, the FOIP VoIP
• 1:37:08
  is working. If less than like 50 people are
• 1:37:11
  using it on the whole server at once, I think it.
• 1:37:15
  So when should I? Maybe I should shut up about it
• 1:37:18
  into where only it works for like?
• 1:37:19
  Yeah, don't tell them. Yeah.
• 1:37:21
  I think they said something like on one of the inside Star
• 1:37:24
  Citizen live streams. Like, yeah, the the flip, as you
• 1:37:29
  might know, wasn't really designed for meshing.
• 1:37:34
  What to finish the flight model first?
• 1:37:36
  Oh my gosh. Is that is that Nigel?
• 1:37:40
  It's not. Reliable.
• 1:37:41
  Point of clarification. Point of clarification, are you
• 1:37:44
  saying VoIP with an F like Foxtrot or are you saying VoIP
• 1:37:48
  with AV like Victor? VoIP voices in Victor.
• 1:37:51
  VoIP as in Fox? Like yeah, it's both voices.
• 1:37:54
  The FOIP is the the. Implementation is FOIP first,
• 1:37:58
  but it's VoIP on the back end like they made that big deal a
• 1:38:02
  few years ago with. Talking to each other was, is is
• 1:38:06
  was supposed is, is the void part of it.
• 1:38:08
  The void as an F is like facial recognition and making your,
• 1:38:13
  your your your. The animation of the facial
• 1:38:16
  features match yours. Which, yeah, and I guess that's.
• 1:38:21
  Kind of cool, but who cares? It's it's, it's the same thing
• 1:38:25
  like I like you can actually notice characters now it's
• 1:38:29
  moving. I understand that, but most of
• 1:38:32
  the time people are wearing helmets.
• 1:38:36
  Yeah. Makes no.
• 1:38:39
  Sense I'm going to test this for the next show, I want to have an
• 1:38:41
  entire entire crew, entire voyage with nothing but in game
• 1:38:47
  coms. See how?
• 1:38:48
  It'll be a nice and quiet trip. Yep, it'll be a.
• 1:38:52
  Short show. Which is kind of sad because
• 1:38:56
  you, you, you think that they could implement things like, you
• 1:39:00
  know, you clicked on a list of different like servers that are
• 1:39:03
  in game, almost like discord servers.
• 1:39:05
  I mean people just like, hey, come to the hangout.
• 1:39:08
  This is the official channel of, you know Orison and you can
• 1:39:13
  connect to it, you know, finally be able to use.
• 1:39:16
  My in game line. Yeah.
• 1:39:19
  My eyes are up here. 'Cause I'm looking at your
• 1:39:24
  knees, yeah. Is that what?
• 1:39:27
  You're looking at Do you want one of those Professor X Cart
• 1:39:30
  things? I don't care.
• 1:39:33
  Where I don't know where the wheel no leg thing came from.
• 1:39:36
  I don't know either. Well, I was.
• 1:39:39
  I was just. The worm made it.
• 1:39:41
  I just want, I just wanted to to let everybody know that people
• 1:39:46
  without legs can still get around.
• 1:39:49
  OK. Well, I mean, yeah, I have that.
• 1:39:51
  You have that rare. Gift for sarcasm charge right
• 1:39:53
  where it's. Like.
• 1:39:54
  Is it? Is it AI?
• 1:39:55
  Don't? Is he?
• 1:39:57
  I can't now. Is he being sarcastic?
• 1:39:59
  I'm being this is This is why I'm still unemployed.
• 1:40:08
  No, I'd have to get an interview to.
• 1:40:11
  Disappoint them with my sarcasm, but.
• 1:40:15
  Look, I would be terrible here. And they?
• 1:40:18
  Just stare at you. Hey man, I might actually I
• 1:40:25
  might. I might start implementing that
• 1:40:26
  strategy. That might work because what
• 1:40:27
  I've been doing so far it does not work.
• 1:40:30
  You know when when you get the person that really gets it,
• 1:40:32
  that's probably going to be one of the best jobs, like just
• 1:40:37
  rolls right with it. True.
• 1:40:39
  That's true. I got to tell you, yeah, I got
• 1:40:42
  to tell you that the screwed up thing nowadays, and this is,
• 1:40:45
  this is real for everybody who may be working on things and,
• 1:40:49
  you know, maybe you got laid off or whatever.
• 1:40:52
  The the truth of the matter is, is that a lot of these companies
• 1:40:55
  either to impress investors or to comply with state and local
• 1:40:59
  laws and for tax purposes, you know, they'll, they'll post job
• 1:41:05
  listings that they don't intend on filling and they'll put you
• 1:41:09
  through several interviews. And then, you know, when they
• 1:41:11
  have to do their reporting, they go, hey, yeah, we've been, we've
• 1:41:14
  been looking for people. But you know, or they go, yeah,
• 1:41:18
  we're growing. Look how many job opportunities
• 1:41:20
  we have. But if they don't actually hire
• 1:41:21
  anybody and they get a bunch of investors to jump on board, then
• 1:41:25
  they can trickle people in as they need it, but they can also
• 1:41:28
  reap a lot of benefits. And that's, that's an actual
• 1:41:30
  thing that's going on. And so unfortunately, it's like
• 1:41:33
  it is tough. It's not you, OK, and definitely
• 1:41:37
  not you. Well, it could be you.
• 1:41:39
  You don't know who you're talking to.
• 1:41:41
  I I mean, maybe you suck, I don't know.
• 1:41:42
  Maybe maybe you know a narcissist not.
• 1:41:45
  Everyone's. Right.
• 1:41:46
  You know. What I'm saying All right, all
• 1:41:53
  right, so we we're we're coming up on two hours here. 2 hours is
• 1:41:57
  our longest show. But I do want to talk a little
• 1:42:02
  bit about ships. I like to bring ships to the end
• 1:42:05
  because that's what everyone wants to wants to hear the Cuddy
• 1:42:09
  Brown. So I make them go through the
• 1:42:11
  whole episode before we. So I'm going to I'm going to say
• 1:42:14
  something controversial. Maybe I don't give a fuck about
• 1:42:21
  the Apollo Medevac because who the it's just a fucking bigger
• 1:42:28
  Cutlass Red. Like there's nothing special
• 1:42:30
  about it. Here's a ship with two fucking
• 1:42:33
  Med beds in it. Who?
• 1:42:34
  Why do? Why are people excited about
• 1:42:36
  this? I don't understand.
• 1:42:37
  It's a sexy looking ship. It looks, it just looks better.
• 1:42:39
  Yeah, it looks neat, but who the fuck cares?
• 1:42:42
  It doesn't give you, it doesn't add anything to the game
• 1:42:44
  whatsoever. You got three beds instead of 2.
• 1:42:47
  Right. Wow.
• 1:42:49
  I think you and maybe don't you get a higher tier.
• 1:42:52
  Yeah, yeah, you. What does that do?
• 1:42:55
  There's, there's also modularity with the beds, so you're going
• 1:42:58
  to be able to swap around the beds.
• 1:43:00
  What do you mean? Are you?
• 1:43:01
  Going to move them in the ship. No, as in you can swap out for
• 1:43:05
  more lower tier beds or fewer higher tier beds.
• 1:43:08
  But what's the point? But what's there's no.
• 1:43:11
  Difference. I know you don't have much.
• 1:43:14
  There is a difference. It just isn't much.
• 1:43:16
  It's very minimal right now and like we.
• 1:43:18
  Don't have what's what's the difference of right now I'm
• 1:43:21
  playing the game Tier 1 to tier 3 bed.
• 1:43:23
  What's the difference? The respawn range on a Tier 1
• 1:43:26
  bed is the highest. So it's just range.
• 1:43:31
  Yeah. And healing tiered injuries.
• 1:43:36
  I mean, but The thing is is that you could just regen.
• 1:43:40
  I I know we don't have proper medical.
• 1:43:42
  Games and you don't even have to go back to the base to the the
• 1:43:45
  space station now you can just regen at most ground locations
• 1:43:49
  it seems. What?
• 1:43:51
  What? OK, so so So what if we're
• 1:43:53
  looking at, you know, OK, well the next step is get rid of
• 1:43:56
  regen and that body needs to be transported.
• 1:44:03
  Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, we're actually.
• 1:44:04
  Maybe there's? A time, gosh, the the getting
• 1:44:07
  the whole reason of going back for your body was the armor was
• 1:44:10
  always a big part of that. It's going to be insurance for
• 1:44:14
  armor. They're going to have to make it
• 1:44:16
  either extremely expensive or I just feel.
• 1:44:20
  Like, yeah. We're going to have to.
• 1:44:22
  You're going to lose some consequence there, you know.
• 1:44:25
  What if? What if you can't afford to
• 1:44:27
  reach on your legs? It's just like just the rest,
• 1:44:30
  just like your left arm is gone or your head.
• 1:44:35
  Yeah, can I be honest? Today I realized I am poor in
• 1:44:40
  Star Citizen. How much do you have?
• 1:44:44
  I have like 2 million and I was like great, I'll buy.
• 1:44:47
  I was gonna buy a cargo ship and I was like, I can buy like a
• 1:44:50
  Mustang, bit I was. Like what the fuck dude?
• 1:44:53
  Rich to me, though. Then again, I don't.
• 1:44:56
  No, Chav, you're you're hungry. Under a million.
• 1:45:03
  Tab you Yeah, you need to. Try more, you need to.
• 1:45:06
  Just work a little harder tab. I don't know.
• 1:45:09
  When I go, I hang out with other people, you know, even in Reds.
• 1:45:12
  Car, it's like, what do you do at Reds?
• 1:45:13
  Car. It's like I just walk around
• 1:45:15
  with my gun. That's yeah, that's why you're
• 1:45:18
  that's. Why you broke That's and
• 1:45:20
  medically you don't get a lot of money.
• 1:45:22
  Making activities most of the. Time, you know.
• 1:45:24
  That's understandable. But I.
• 1:45:26
  Super. Cool.
• 1:45:27
  Like if anybody stumbles upon us one day, they're going to
• 1:45:29
  stumble like. Man, they pay people to fucking.
• 1:45:32
  Patrol the perimeter like that. Badass red scar.
• 1:45:39
  Jokes on jokes on you, we don't pay anyone anything.
• 1:45:41
  Yeah, they don't. Yeah, we don't.
• 1:45:42
  We don't. Exactly.
• 1:45:43
  Nobody gets paid. That guy's just crazy.
• 1:45:47
  Once the industry folks start coming back, we'll they'll start
• 1:45:50
  making money again. But.
• 1:45:54
  A list of our activities. We're not money.
• 1:45:58
  Making we all want. Different things out of the
• 1:45:59
  game, right? You know, we all, we all get
• 1:46:01
  different things out of the game.
• 1:46:03
  I don't know if we all do want different things out of the
• 1:46:05
  game. You know, people say this.
• 1:46:07
  I just think everybody wants to have a good time in a fun space
• 1:46:11
  game that is less arcady and more realistic because that's
• 1:46:18
  what was advertised to us. See, see I, I, I'm trying to do
• 1:46:22
  like, you know, like mining or exploring and Avenger one's
• 1:46:27
  trying to do, you know, blockading entire.
• 1:46:29
  Stars, I'm going to. Clip our.
• 1:46:31
  Entire. Entire.
• 1:46:32
  Planetary shit talk him guys. Fuck that piece of shit fuck.
• 1:46:37
  That guy when? You're.
• 1:46:39
  That piece of shit, what a garbage.
• 1:46:41
  I I don't, we I've. Never.
• 1:46:42
  I've never met the guy, but no, we're not being sarcastic.
• 1:46:46
  What what they were doing. It's such, it's just such a
• 1:46:52
  shitty thing to do. So this is, this is what
• 1:46:55
  Avengers Squadron did what, two or three days ago or whatever
• 1:46:58
  yesterday. And yeah, I'm sure they've been
• 1:47:01
  doing it all week. So Avengers Squadron, everyone's
• 1:47:05
  doing Hurston, Hurston missions, moving cargo.
• 1:47:10
  So Avengers Squadron quote UN quote locked down Hurston,
• 1:47:14
  meaning any cargo ship that was there trying to do the missions,
• 1:47:18
  they killed them and took their cargo.
• 1:47:22
  And I don't think they were letting people go.
• 1:47:23
  They were killing like miners, people doing cargo and then
• 1:47:30
  well, and then they they texted, wrote in chat on the server,
• 1:47:36
  one-on-one with Avenger one. Anyone who beats him gets the
• 1:47:40
  cargo. So what they're doing is they're
• 1:47:42
  seal clubbing people who have no intention of playing with them
• 1:47:45
  at all. And they're just trying to like
• 1:47:47
  goad people to fight with Avenger 1.
• 1:47:51
  I think, I think that the from my perspective, the backlash
• 1:47:54
  here is anybody who like would want to engage in like space
• 1:48:01
  combat, especially anyone who want to engage in space combat,
• 1:48:04
  like challenging. I think was turned off 'cause we
• 1:48:06
  have some of those people in our org who are very good who have
• 1:48:10
  actually killed Avenger One before.
• 1:48:13
  And they're like, no, like I'm not, I'm just not doing that
• 1:48:15
  because I don't this is stupid. I don't want to participate in.
• 1:48:18
  That would it be, I mean, if there's seal clubbing, I mean,
• 1:48:20
  wouldn't it be just assemble a larger group of seals?
• 1:48:23
  Isn't that not possible to that's?
• 1:48:25
  Not what the seals do to have the seals.
• 1:48:28
  The seals are a bunch of. Seals are not unionizing.
• 1:48:31
  Yeah. Let me know, I'll I'll tell you
• 1:48:35
  this. Let me let me ask 1 real quick,
• 1:48:37
  quick question. Jar Jar, in the beginning of the
• 1:48:40
  broadcast, you you mentioned something about some kind of
• 1:48:42
  controversy on Reddit. Is this it?
• 1:48:45
  No, no, the Reddit controversy was what we were talking about
• 1:48:48
  with the Yens, which, what the fuck was it?
• 1:48:53
  They won't actually go on Reddit.
• 1:48:54
  It's a misunderstanding. Oh, it was the change.
• 1:48:56
  No, no, no. It was the changing of what was
• 1:48:58
  what they said was going to be a Co-op where it's just you and
• 1:49:00
  your buddies fighting the enemy. They changed it now to a sandbox
• 1:49:04
  event where arguably you could still get camped with PvP.
• 1:49:09
  You know the way. They relabeled the Co-op mission
• 1:49:12
  into Sandbox. The way it was described, at
• 1:49:16
  least in the comment, was that it sounded like they swapped 2
• 1:49:19
  events. This is not the Co-op event
• 1:49:23
  anymore. That's being or the Co-op
• 1:49:25
  activity that's being bumped back.
• 1:49:28
  They're they're swapping it with another which I don't mind.
• 1:49:31
  Another sandbox event. I've liked the ones they've done
• 1:49:33
  so far. But it's not how I read them
• 1:49:35
  well. It all stays.
• 1:49:36
  It's more content. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:49:37
  I just think some people are thinking like, oh, this is no
• 1:49:40
  longer a Co-op. No, it's just a different thing.
• 1:49:43
  Yeah, they all they're. Getting their panties in a
• 1:49:45
  bundle. People get their panties in a
• 1:49:46
  bunch. A lot I do.
• 1:49:47
  Hope that they don't let all this new sandbox content I just.
• 1:49:50
  I just hope it all doesn't go the way of so many missions like
• 1:49:53
  Hathor exists. Is.
• 1:49:55
  Hathor I don't know the status of it or if.
• 1:49:57
  No one goes there anymore. No, people.
• 1:50:00
  Plenty of people still do it, it's just not as busy.
• 1:50:06
  If hey, if it, if it works, then then I welcome new if the worm's
• 1:50:11
  gonna work in the future, like let's keep and sandbox events,
• 1:50:15
  cause at least that's something to take, you know, a friend
• 1:50:17
  around and be like, hey, there's a cool spot.
• 1:50:20
  And the. Worm you.
• 1:50:21
  Go to. The Worm.
• 1:50:23
  And. Then you take your friend there.
• 1:50:25
  Whether it be pyro one or pyro 4 or 5 or 4, whichever one it was
• 1:50:29
  I think. Four.
• 1:50:29
  Yeah, but Tab, you take your friend there and then Avengers
• 1:50:32
  Squadron murders you and kills you, and then you're like, oh, I
• 1:50:36
  guess, I guess we should have brought more people than
• 1:50:38
  anything else that's happened. Game wise, if that's allowed to
• 1:50:42
  happen, I think my friends would be like, oh, we gotta kill.
• 1:50:45
  Those are real people. I'd be like, yeah, they're real
• 1:50:47
  people. And I'm I'm OK around that.
• 1:50:50
  Like, how do you find them? How do you go against that?
• 1:50:53
  I'd be like, well, you show up either in a yeah, more guns,
• 1:50:56
  bigger ship, more people, more fighters like.
• 1:51:00
  If I. Can get to that point that's fun
• 1:51:04
  like Avenger doing this thing to me sounds like OK, it's a little
• 1:51:08
  bit of piracy like and this is the you know, the Wild West
• 1:51:12
  Caribbean, however you want to look at it.
• 1:51:14
  He he wants to blockade a mission heavy city or attempt
• 1:51:18
  to. Surely there are orgs?
• 1:51:20
  I mean, is it piracy? It was a gang.
• 1:51:23
  Form of. That's griefing.
• 1:51:25
  Griefing. Well, there's there's.
• 1:51:27
  Hero orgs that would that would rally.
• 1:51:29
  Now they have something to do that's not the the the mission
• 1:51:33
  now. Now are they?
• 1:51:35
  Orgs that are designed to protect have something to do.
• 1:51:37
  They have pirates to fight. So here's the thing.
• 1:51:41
  Are they profiting off that cargo?
• 1:51:43
  Is it is it just mission cargo or is it like mining stuff?
• 1:51:47
  So, so taking it actually can profit them because it's it's a
• 1:51:51
  resource. I had as much.
• 1:51:53
  Yeah. So but it's not the contract and
• 1:51:57
  stuff, right? Like because if it's a contract
• 1:51:58
  and stuff, then like what's the point?
• 1:52:01
  You're just killing people. But if it's like you're actually
• 1:52:03
  trying to like, oh, let's see how much our org can make off of
• 1:52:05
  piracy and you're actually doing legit piracy, OK, I'm all for
• 1:52:10
  it. F it.
• 1:52:10
  They're not. They're not new.
• 1:52:12
  Sure. By blocking them completing the
• 1:52:13
  mission you complete, you stop them from accomplishing the
• 1:52:18
  efforts that are overall affect their corporation, right?
• 1:52:22
  So there is utility. There is utility in stopping
• 1:52:25
  people. But that's not why they're doing
• 1:52:27
  it and that's not what they're telegraphing.
• 1:52:29
  And they're they're ganking people to try to goad people to
• 1:52:32
  fight Avenger because he's bored.
• 1:52:36
  And he shouldn't be. It's.
• 1:52:39
  So tell me that he is so and I've heard some stories too.
• 1:52:43
  But he hangs around for the good fight.
• 1:52:46
  Then that surely must be mustard to like, fight him and his
• 1:52:49
  ships, right? Yeah, until they take a mantis
• 1:52:52
  and shove it inside an Idris so you can't break free.
• 1:52:57
  Yeah, they they put a Mantis in in which is I think it was a
• 1:53:00
  Polaris or was it an interest it?
• 1:53:02
  Was an interest, so that's. AI haven't heard that before,
• 1:53:05
  and that's some pretty novel thinking.
• 1:53:07
  It is. It is.
• 1:53:08
  Yeah. I'm not mad at them for that at
• 1:53:12
  all, actually. Like, that's Star Citizen.
• 1:53:14
  Let's that happen. It's good that they found that.
• 1:53:16
  Hopefully CIG will, like address this.
• 1:53:18
  Yeah. Don't let them do that.
• 1:53:20
  It's a little ridiculous. But no, there's there, surely?
• 1:53:24
  Is something good by having if they're if they're going to be
• 1:53:27
  the bad people, Like I kind of like that there's player
• 1:53:31
  baddies. Is that, isn't that like there's
• 1:53:35
  some, there's kind of good? For the game, really a little
• 1:53:37
  bit. A little bit.
• 1:53:43
  I I hear what you're saying. Frustrating for the new player
• 1:53:45
  working for yeah. That's the thing.
• 1:53:48
  That's the point, yeah. Clubbing is bad but having bad
• 1:53:53
  but where's the where do you like draw the line there I
• 1:53:57
  guess. Yeah, yeah, if they if they were
• 1:54:00
  pirating. Poach the waters right you you
• 1:54:02
  you club a bunch of shit seals and then a defensive good org
• 1:54:06
  gets activated. Right.
• 1:54:09
  I don't know. And then you have this really
• 1:54:11
  what presumably would be a pretty large fight, but.
• 1:54:16
  There's also a question. Are you just encouraging bad
• 1:54:18
  behavior by giving them what they want?
• 1:54:21
  Right. That that's why nobody wants to
• 1:54:23
  do it 'cause like, I don't it. And they're not like letting
• 1:54:25
  these people go. They're shooting, they're
• 1:54:27
  killing them, you know what I mean?
• 1:54:29
  They're being jerks. It's a blockade, like, I mean,
• 1:54:33
  yeah, if it's a shoot on site. Now that the hailing.
• 1:54:35
  System works I. Mean I was hoping to.
• 1:54:37
  Have something to say about? This but people that are
• 1:54:39
  shooting people down, like, I mean, if I'm if I'm going pirate
• 1:54:45
  lifestyle, if I'm living, I'm hailing the target, you know,
• 1:54:48
  and I'm saying I'm transferring terms, I'm typing.
• 1:54:51
  I wish there was a way to type directly to somebody that that
• 1:54:54
  would be so much better than Not everybody takes your hail.
• 1:54:58
  Yeah, I mean. I like.
• 1:55:00
  This piracy gameplay, it's, we may not participate in it, but
• 1:55:04
  I, I really want it to exist. Yeah, I wanted to be pirating,
• 1:55:10
  not just flat out murdering because you can and you're
• 1:55:14
  bored. Yeah, OK, so I'll tell you the.
• 1:55:17
  The reason this upsets me is going back to a game many people
• 1:55:21
  have played is Elite Dangerous. Elite Dangerous had this really
• 1:55:25
  awful mechanic of engineering, which was just grinding to get
• 1:55:29
  components. But when you get those,
• 1:55:32
  everybody gets the first mission, which went to this one
• 1:55:36
  location. And if you started Elite
• 1:55:39
  Dangerous, if you're a new player, you're in like a starter
• 1:55:41
  ship. You would go to this one
• 1:55:43
  location and there were griefers there and they would gank you.
• 1:55:46
  And Elite Dangerous is just like Star Citizen, takes you so long.
• 1:55:52
  Travel Times. Travel times are insane.
• 1:55:55
  So you'd go there and then someone you know in a fucking
• 1:56:00
  zooted out ship would just gank you right away.
• 1:56:03
  And that it that like actually upset me because it's like they
• 1:56:08
  killed me in 4 seconds And it was like, how much fun are they
• 1:56:13
  getting from this? And they're actually kind of
• 1:56:17
  ruining my evening now. So that's, that's what upsets me
• 1:56:23
  about this is that you're just, you're ruining someone else.
• 1:56:26
  To, to organically, I mean raise the security level on Stanton.
• 1:56:35
  I, I just there seems to me, I, I want, I still want it to be
• 1:56:38
  possible. I don't think anybody should be
• 1:56:40
  untouchable. Totally, totally.
• 1:56:42
  I. Love the fact that if you really
• 1:56:45
  didn't care from somebody enough in Stan, you could risk it all
• 1:56:49
  and kill somebody. Yeah, you serve time, but
• 1:56:53
  there's a yeah, I won't play the game for two days killing you.
• 1:56:57
  I love that about the game. It it creates so many fun role
• 1:57:01
  play things, things that happen organically like.
• 1:57:04
  Well I like that the game can do that, but also the person who
• 1:57:07
  does that is kind of shitty. Well, there's conflict in the
• 1:57:13
  game that naturally will happen. Like I want trade deals to go
• 1:57:16
  sour. I want.
• 1:57:18
  Yeah, but you're not, you're not, it's not, it's not a fair
• 1:57:20
  fight, that's the thing, right? Like it's cool that anyone can
• 1:57:24
  get. Extinction between the ganking.
• 1:57:26
  But. For it to be a sandbox I do
• 1:57:28
  think self policing is the best way to go.
• 1:57:31
  Bring the bounty hunting that is now working question mark this
• 1:57:36
  patch. I haven't.
• 1:57:37
  No, I don't know, maybe. Your bounties have been working
• 1:57:40
  again. So I think that is the best way
• 1:57:45
  is to have it policed ideally. I mean, we and we have so many
• 1:57:51
  zones where you can't shoot already in Stan Arrow, being a
• 1:57:56
  little bit more weapons free is welcome.
• 1:58:00
  I actually like fire for that reason.
• 1:58:02
  I, I feel like I can't feel like I can't defend myself in, in
• 1:58:06
  Stanton with all these. Clouds and.
• 1:58:10
  Somebody would just eat a box right into your face, right?
• 1:58:12
  Like it's. Yeah.
• 1:58:14
  Yeah, Yeah, they don't think that.
• 1:58:15
  You want to turn around and shoot that person and you can't
• 1:58:18
  do it in Stanton and. So that I think there's plenty
• 1:58:22
  of. Protections and if somebody, if
• 1:58:24
  they have the it's not easy, that means they have the
• 1:58:27
  manpower to patrol what is outside, what is Loreville right
• 1:58:32
  and outside Everest as well. Like so I'm just.
• 1:58:36
  That's a lot of manpower. That's impressive.
• 1:58:38
  If it if they have that. Kind of manpower to and people
• 1:58:42
  would serve her hop if it really bothered him that much people
• 1:58:47
  did so yeah go ahead and I I. Think EU EE should intervene?
• 1:58:55
  I think if you have like a a crime stat of over 4, then
• 1:58:59
  you're getting ships showing up, driving you up, you got
• 1:59:01
  hammerheads showing up and stuff.
• 1:59:03
  Absolutely. Easy there, easy there, UEE
• 1:59:07
  that's going to 'cause I mean, they, we can't even get our
• 1:59:10
  elevators to work right and you're wanting them to start
• 1:59:12
  programming some AI to go and defend against some, some bad
• 1:59:18
  guy. Fairpoint.
• 1:59:21
  We had and they were supposed to be back this.
• 1:59:24
  We did have it. We did have it.
• 1:59:27
  And and that was a they figured out ways to abuse that, too.
• 1:59:31
  No, but they it's a simple how many times escalation.
• 1:59:34
  It used to be Instagram set rose.
• 1:59:36
  If you got high enough, you wouldn't get intercepted.
• 1:59:38
  A couple years ago. You've been quantum without
• 1:59:40
  being your. Your your doors would open on
• 1:59:43
  your hanger and all of a sudden the cops were shooting at
• 1:59:46
  shooting at you inside your hanger.
• 1:59:49
  As they should be. So.
• 1:59:51
  What? Just by bringing back quantum
• 1:59:53
  interdiction inside Stanton for if you have a crime stat.
• 1:59:56
  Because a crime stat shouldn't just be a number, it should be a
• 1:59:59
  consequence and it and it should put you on the run and it and it
• 2:00:02
  should get you trackable and not just running to Grim Hex or
• 2:00:06
  something. They really got to solve that
• 2:00:08
  part, the fact that someone could just run to Grim Hex and
• 2:00:11
  that's all they do. Well.
• 2:00:12
  That's that should be that. That should be their one refuge
• 2:00:15
  in the entire solar system. That should.
• 2:00:18
  Be they got a whole. There's a whole whole other
• 2:00:19
  system that they can. Refuge exactly.
• 2:00:21
  But in this in this solar system, they have one refuge in
• 2:00:25
  in pyro you. Have you have?
• 2:00:26
  Refuges of civility, all the major stations you can't shoot
• 2:00:30
  anybody in. So it's fine to have one
• 2:00:34
  criminal refuge in Stanton, I think, but also to.
• 2:00:37
  Travel to Pyro, that gate is supposedly going to be policed
• 2:00:42
  the stay in pyro gateway. Yeah, if you're in San Triangol
• 2:00:45
  Pyro, yeah. Yeah, but like.
• 2:00:48
  Micro jumps. Ideally there will be micro
• 2:00:50
  jumps there right through those little back channels.
• 2:00:53
  Yeah, the transient holes. But at the same time, at the
• 2:01:01
  same time, I should be able to, you know, quantum pretty close
• 2:01:04
  to my bounty, but I can see where they are.
• 2:01:07
  I should be able to quantum to them and that should keep them
• 2:01:10
  on the run. When they are in areas where you
• 2:01:13
  know they have a crime stat, they should be scared.
• 2:01:17
  Anubis that's coming with the new flight model.
• 2:01:20
  Oh. Which iteration here they're
• 2:01:22
  doing they're planning. Several stages, yeah, he's been
• 2:01:25
  working on, they've been working.
• 2:01:26
  On planning for 13 years. Oh, physicalize.
• 2:01:35
  Yeah, I was trying. I was just going to try to bring
• 2:01:36
  us back there, but we. Just at least we're talking
• 2:01:38
  about starses. At least we're talking about
• 2:01:40
  starses. I know.
• 2:01:42
  And not. Paraplegics.
• 2:01:43
  I'm not cut it. None, none of this gets cut as
• 2:01:45
  every episode the the only thing gets that gets cut is if I'm
• 2:01:50
  drinking too much bubbly beer and I burp into the microphone
• 2:01:52
  like I did 2 episodes ago. Unbelievable.
• 2:01:57
  Nobody said anything. I was muting.
• 2:02:01
  I was muting the wrong who? You are.
• 2:02:05
  I was muting the raw. I was in the wrong.
• 2:02:06
  Mute bar. We know you're unemployed and
• 2:02:09
  these things happen. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:02:13
  Welcome to the club. But it isn't you this entire.
• 2:02:16
  Show should be like a three drink minimum like.
• 2:02:23
  Can't drink it anymore. And that's.
• 2:02:25
  The host, like Jesus and. Calling in.
• 2:02:28
  Well, we know, we know. I stopped drinking years ago and
• 2:02:32
  I can still handle it. How?
• 2:02:35
  Do you know the? Conversations.
• 2:02:38
  No, I'm talking about how I can handle the conversation.
• 2:02:40
  I doubt I could handle a drink. If I had a piece of a drop of
• 2:02:44
  alcohol, I'd probably be under the under the under the floor.
• 2:02:48
  Oh. My God.
• 2:02:49
  OK, were you? Were you?
• 2:02:51
  And you don't have to answer this live on air.
• 2:02:54
  Were you a racist drunk or were you a genius drunk?
• 2:02:59
  I have no. Idea what?
• 2:03:00
  I have no idea what that means. I, I will say this, I'm old.
• 2:03:05
  So, you know, in my time I have used racial slurs.
• 2:03:10
  I'll admit to that. You know, I know better now.
• 2:03:13
  I have used racial slurs. I have used the hard.
• 2:03:17
  I use the hard, RI use the hard the hard.
• 2:03:21
  You're you're, you're, you're from the South and you've
• 2:03:24
  learned. No, I'm, well, I'm from the, I'm
• 2:03:26
  from the South of another country, but I'm, I, I live in
• 2:03:29
  the South of this country now. Right.
• 2:03:31
  This country being the good old the US of.
• 2:03:34
  AI moved, I moved bro, I moved from the abolitionist to the
• 2:03:40
  United States to like what's not even like the South, but close
• 2:03:45
  enough to the South. And I'll tell you, man, these
• 2:03:47
  people down here are like different.
• 2:03:53
  It is, it is. I've lived in, I've lived in,
• 2:03:55
  I've lived in. Listen, man, I've lived in
• 2:03:59
  multiple countries and I'll tell you there's and people in like
• 2:04:04
  the Northeast have more in common with people in parts of
• 2:04:08
  Europe than they do with people in the South of the United
• 2:04:11
  States. For sure.
• 2:04:13
  Like. Definitely southwest version of
• 2:04:14
  where you live. Bam.
• 2:04:16
  Man, oh, I know. And you're you I like.
• 2:04:19
  You. Every, everyone that I've ever
• 2:04:21
  met down here, that's an implant to, to the, to The Dirty South
• 2:04:25
  where I live, they have all unanimously said the most
• 2:04:31
  friendly people, the most welcoming people they've ever
• 2:04:34
  met has, has been right here in the South.
• 2:04:37
  Because they're afraid. And and and I'm talking North
• 2:04:41
  and South. Carolina.
• 2:04:42
  Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana.
• 2:04:45
  Now Mississippi and Louisiana are a little bit of a different,
• 2:04:48
  different thing. And in Florida?
• 2:04:50
  That is a whole different. Thing too.
• 2:04:51
  Fuck Florida bro I went to Florida for the first time
• 2:04:54
  recently. I had a had a nightmare about.
• 2:04:56
  Going to Florida. We're just gladdest place I've
• 2:05:01
  ever seen in my life. Dude, that's.
• 2:05:03
  Crazy. It's awful.
• 2:05:06
  And, and if you go down the street right where I went to, I
• 2:05:09
  went on a cruise, you know, Star Trek cruise.
• 2:05:11
  And, you know, we went to Cape Canaveral to go see the space
• 2:05:14
  shuttle because you know, hell yeah.
• 2:05:16
  You know, we're like driving over there and like, you know,
• 2:05:21
  you're, you're driving along the street and you have the curb,
• 2:05:23
  right? You've got a regular ass curb
• 2:05:25
  and it's there, but like there's no grass or dirt on the other
• 2:05:30
  side of that curb. It's like straight up, the ocean
• 2:05:32
  is right there at the same level as the curb.
• 2:05:36
  Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. Like on both sides.
• 2:05:40
  A lot of the beaches. You in Florida, a lot of the
• 2:05:42
  beaches, you can drive your car on them.
• 2:05:44
  Yeah, you can. Just drive around the ocean.
• 2:05:47
  You know what? You can't drive your car OnStar
• 2:05:50
  Citizen, because they haven't figured out how to make fucking
• 2:05:52
  cars drive properly. Well, I got to work on the
• 2:05:55
  flight model first. So All right, so, so before we
• 2:05:58
  before we take guys to I don't know if anyone's going to listen
• 2:06:01
  to this long. I will I will say this.
• 2:06:03
  I will say. This nobody's going to listen
• 2:06:05
  to. This listen, listen, listen.
• 2:06:07
  Last last episode we had four followers on Spotify.
• 2:06:11
  OK this episode 7. Hey you.
• 2:06:17
  See what I'm talking? You see him again out here all
• 2:06:19
  right we had 102 or 100 I think on on the YouTube now we've got
• 2:06:24
  one we had one O 5 now we're back down to one O 4 OK, who's?
• 2:06:30
  The other five Spotify accounts. It does.
• 2:06:32
  It's irrelevant. My point, My point is, my point
• 2:06:36
  is somebody, there's people out here, people out there who, who,
• 2:06:43
  who get something out of this. Yeah.
• 2:06:47
  Who? I can make those numbers
• 2:06:51
  skyrocket if you all come to my event.
• 2:06:54
  What's your event? You know the event.
• 2:06:57
  Oh yeah? Well, we we can't talk about
• 2:06:59
  that yet. We can't talk about it yet.
• 2:07:01
  No, no, that's what that's what's happened.
• 2:07:03
  I were No, we can't talk about it yet, but that's what Tav and
• 2:07:05
  I were doing earlier. Are you guys going to film
• 2:07:07
  another bathroom scene? That's what that was for.
• 2:07:13
  Wow. Yeah, I have Hobo doesn't know
• 2:07:16
  about this, but I've. I I don't OK, I I trust no, but
• 2:07:22
  we're they just. You should not if you.
• 2:07:24
  Made it this. Far.
• 2:07:25
  There's something. Coming up, that's very
• 2:07:27
  interesting. Cut it down.
• 2:07:30
  If you made it this far or something coming up, that's very
• 2:07:32
  interesting. All right, let's say I can't
• 2:07:34
  wait honestly to. Be.
• 2:07:37
  Honest I'm I have some, I have nothing but questions.
• 2:07:41
  Yeah, yeah, let's hype it up. Well, next time, so for for this
• 2:07:47
  episode, listen, we're we're going to we're going to shut
• 2:07:50
  this episode down. I think shut.
• 2:07:52
  Down. Look, unless you guys have
• 2:07:53
  something really you want to get off your chest.
• 2:07:56
  You know, out of your time. All right, Anubis.
• 2:08:00
  I've been, you know, really kind of desiring to hear about Cosmic
• 2:08:05
  Kobo's event. No, no more.
• 2:08:08
  Soon, not the time. You'll know more soon.
• 2:08:12
  It's not the time. Papa John's.
• 2:08:14
  Stay tuned. It's a Papa John's pizza event.
• 2:08:18
  No, they're. Not hard for pizza.
• 2:08:23
  I just. So hungry.
• 2:08:25
  Preferably an old meme, but fine, whatever all.
• 2:08:28
  Right. Any anyone excited about any any
• 2:08:30
  upcoming any upcoming ship you're excited about?
• 2:08:34
  Paladin. Yeah, that's that's what I mean.
• 2:08:38
  Who cares about the ships anymore?
• 2:08:41
  Yeah. Like.
• 2:08:41
  I'm excited, really. Elevator 2.23 whatever you.
• 2:08:45
  Can only fly one ship at a time. Right.
• 2:08:48
  Like who cares? The F9A.
• 2:08:53
  Yeah, ladders. You can look left and right in
• 2:08:56
  three 180° and an and a ladder. Ladder V2.
• 2:09:01
  Wow, so. You can't know who's 5 feet in
• 2:09:04
  front of you. These face plants, man, It's
• 2:09:07
  like just kind of try not to face plant.
• 2:09:11
  Maybe the next one, maybe this next one.
• 2:09:12
  I don't know. What's this event that's taking
• 2:09:14
  place on the moons? Is it a moon of our court?
• 2:09:17
  Oh, I'll, I'll say this dude. The fact that they kind of
• 2:09:20
  change this event at what seems like the last minute, like the
• 2:09:24
  the for the pad next patch, does not bode well.
• 2:09:28
  Yeah, it doesn't bode. Well, but I just want it to work
• 2:09:31
  because I'm still out there trying to get new people into
• 2:09:33
  the game. And like they were like just
• 2:09:36
  this really cool video for the event, whether it be the worm or
• 2:09:39
  the trading or the one before that.
• 2:09:41
  And it's always like these fun little events.
• 2:09:43
  And I'm like you. Know.
• 2:09:44
  Come on, let's play. And then like we play two days
• 2:09:47
  after the patch and it's. I have a really important.
• 2:09:51
  We got to, we got to do better as a community, as a game.
• 2:09:54
  How could we? How can I not be in that
• 2:09:56
  position to where the game is putting its best foot forward?
• 2:10:02
  I have a really important question.
• 2:10:04
  I just need to know when to do that.
• 2:10:06
  Fire, fire away worker. OK, I'm watching this video on
• 2:10:10
  the on the twitch broadcast. Yeah.
• 2:10:14
  Jar jar you in and you're in the turret.
• 2:10:18
  Yeah. Why are you not shooting?
• 2:10:21
  There's nothing to shoot. What the What are you talking
• 2:10:23
  about? There was all kinds of.
• 2:10:24
  Otherwise, oh, I was, I was probably not there.
• 2:10:29
  I was probably doing something. If Murphy's flying, I'm fine and
• 2:10:32
  confident. If you were flying, I'd be
• 2:10:35
  paying attention and. Shooting oh OK yeah I.
• 2:10:37
  Got you. But Murphy?
• 2:10:39
  Someone's got to defend the ship.
• 2:10:41
  No, they were, they were low value targets.
• 2:10:43
  It wasn't like a big deal. We were, we were doing the.
• 2:10:46
  Well, you got to call Avenger 1A low, low target.
• 2:10:48
  That training mission bro. OK, anyway, we.
• 2:10:54
  Didn't. Do any sponsor?
• 2:10:58
  We didn't do any ads. This this this.
• 2:11:01
  We're going to go broke. Shit.
• 2:11:04
  All right, well, this is a freebie.
• 2:11:07
  We're on our own out here. You guys can join our Patreon to
• 2:11:11
  have make a Patreon in. The.
• 2:11:14
  Future the. Patreon.
• 2:11:16
  It would be hilarious if you actually made one and somebody
• 2:11:19
  signed up. For.
• 2:11:21
  Our entry. Will be 99 cents $0.99 a month
• 2:11:25
  at a low cost of $0.99 a month you get access to everything
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  that you can get for free on YouTube and.
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  Spot off that. What a bargain.
• 2:11:34
  We appreciate your $0.99 as support.
• 2:11:37
  We'll put it into our. Sound board for effects for the
• 2:11:40
  next food. Fart sounds.
• 2:11:41
  Also also food, right? Right.
• 2:11:43
  I'm hungry there. Also.
• 2:11:45
  Also rice and beans. Also sent in a, you know,
• 2:11:52
  sponsorship. Who did that?
• 2:11:56
  Volt. Oh, we could save it.
• 2:12:02
  Yeah, they they do suck. Yeah, fuck Volt, bro.
• 2:12:06
  The shotgun's pretty cool. All right.
• 2:12:09
  Shotgun is pretty sweet. I had one one time and then.
• 2:12:12
  The quartz is no good no more. Lost.
• 2:12:15
  He got to be hugging the guy for a quartz.
• 2:12:19
  Yep. And then burns.
• 2:12:23
  Don't have it unless you have the what's the the pyro one?
• 2:12:27
  The dead rig? The dead rig is a fucking sniper
• 2:12:30
  rifle. Put a scope on.
• 2:12:31
  That thing, it used to be good. I I tried it recently and it
• 2:12:35
  didn't have the same magic. It used to have it one time.
• 2:12:40
  That's probably good because it was legitimately like a fucking
• 2:12:43
  sniper rifle. Are you in an A wing?
• 2:12:47
  No, we're finding a hurricane. In the Hurricane and the turret
• 2:12:53
  is basically useless. No, the Hurricane is the best 2
• 2:12:57
  seater combat ship by far. Yeah, but not if you're if
• 2:13:00
  you're not shooting, what's the matter?
• 2:13:03
  I mean this is very situational. He is not being useful here.
• 2:13:07
  I am. That's fair.
• 2:13:10
  What is in the? What is all this like floating
• 2:13:14
  around in the the fake space water?
• 2:13:17
  Sitting in the little zone, you have to wait for the the mission
• 2:13:20
  to continue. Yeah, this was actually another
• 2:13:23
  cool thing that doesn't exist anymore was you sat in.
• 2:13:26
  What do they call them? It was.
• 2:13:28
  Like a. Cloud cloud, some kind of orc
• 2:13:30
  cloud or whatever. And you and that hides your
• 2:13:34
  signal, hides your EM signatures, it hides your
• 2:13:37
  whatevers. But you have to be in the cloud
• 2:13:40
  to wait for the mission to progress, and then you have to
• 2:13:42
  go kill the dudes. It's it's really cool.
• 2:13:44
  I mean, it's like Assassin's Creed when you hide in the
• 2:13:46
  bushes, right? And the the NPCS can't see you.
• 2:13:49
  It's the same concept. Yeah, it's supposed to work.
• 2:13:52
  PVPI guess as well. And they were supposedly like
• 2:13:55
  testing it, but we have this was six months ago, so.
• 2:13:59
  Player versus PU. Yeah, this is player versus.
• 2:14:03
  Environment. Does it seem like to you guys, a
• 2:14:06
  lot of times that it seems like this, this ship, the CIG ship is
• 2:14:11
  so rudderless sometimes? Yeah, it goes.
• 2:14:13
  From one it does. Yeah, 1 island to the other and
• 2:14:17
  none of the islands seem to matter 100%.
• 2:14:22
  I mean, these, these missions right now, I mean, it's mainly
• 2:14:24
  cargo and for and for things to be centered around them and for
• 2:14:28
  this to go that bad at the same time, you know, they're saying.
• 2:14:33
  Work right? It it, it the it's just kind of
• 2:14:37
  lazy riding when they have so many other tools.
• 2:14:40
  I mean, OK, I don't know if it's a bunch of those.
• 2:14:43
  I mean, take a bunch of those ships, right, like the the 890
• 2:14:47
  mission, right? Make it different ships and
• 2:14:49
  scatter them about and say, hey, you know, Zeno threats been like
• 2:14:53
  hijacking people go in and kill all the Zeno threat, take back
• 2:14:56
  the ship and save the civilians. Like you can throw that as a
• 2:14:59
  huge event or anything else, but like they just it's box missions
• 2:15:05
  box and kill and it's like. I guess that's the easiest thing
• 2:15:10
  they could recycle maybe? Yeah, but what does that say
• 2:15:14
  about their plans if they if, if they have the tools available to
• 2:15:17
  them right now and they don't use?
• 2:15:18
  Them, they're busy, man. Are they?
• 2:15:21
  They got that new audio guy. Yeah, he's hyped.
• 2:15:25
  They already have this in place. They could just do it.
• 2:15:29
  Listen, I, I want, I want to know when you know how you, you
• 2:15:33
  pick up the cargo boxes and it sounds like there's a damn
• 2:15:36
  gerbil running around inside of it made out.
• 2:15:39
  Of metal. Yeah.
• 2:15:40
  Yeah. What?
• 2:15:41
  Are they going to change that? I wonder if he's heard that
• 2:15:44
  Mister audio. Do they play their own game?
• 2:15:48
  Does. Anybody know his name?
• 2:15:52
  No, but we will either either either we're all going to know
• 2:15:57
  him and be like, wow, this this guy, he's going to be.
• 2:16:00
  Gone in a. Month.
• 2:16:01
  He's going to be gone. He's going.
• 2:16:02
  To fucking disappear. And they're going to.
• 2:16:05
  And in six months they're going to have some new young audio
• 2:16:09
  dude come on. Steep.
• 2:16:10
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100% Yep. Oh man, what a what a.
• 2:16:17
  Fix the audio. Let's let's let's work on the
• 2:16:20
  flight model and fix the audio and let's get ray tracing in.
• 2:16:26
  Yeah, no, it does. It does kind of remind me.
• 2:16:27
  Like I was reading the road map and the first thing on the road
• 2:16:30
  map was hairstyles and I was just, I just almost just, and I
• 2:16:37
  was like everyone. 'S OK.
• 2:16:38
  I'm glad that's. 4.3 hairstyles baby.
• 2:16:42
  But The thing is, is if you watch like Astropub and like
• 2:16:46
  those other shows, they, they talk a lot about like, oh, it's
• 2:16:49
  important and it is important to get diverse hairstyles and, and
• 2:16:52
  stuff in. It's just like.
• 2:16:54
  It. Is that is that like really?
• 2:16:59
  It is far more shortly impressed I hear, to replace the whatever
• 2:17:03
  that is with people that can make sure every time I bring
• 2:17:06
  somebody into the game they don't have a terrible
• 2:17:08
  experience. Yeah.
• 2:17:11
  And it is and it's, but it's adequate at this moment.
• 2:17:14
  I mean, it doesn't need to be changed again.
• 2:17:18
  Yeah, I mean, they have maybe enough.
• 2:17:21
  They have. Enough type of nuance.
• 2:17:22
  To patches ago like another 10. And it's it's cool that they're
• 2:17:26
  bringing more in. Like I'm cool with them bringing
• 2:17:28
  more in. But yeah, the fact that like
• 2:17:29
  you, you look at the patch and you're like, OK, hairstyles and
• 2:17:33
  like a mission that's immediately gets cancelled and
• 2:17:37
  like swapped and like. Well, they're all different
• 2:17:39
  teams, that's the thing. It's like the hairstyle people
• 2:17:42
  aren't the same people doing the chat interface.
• 2:17:44
  Like they're different teams. Totally 100%.
• 2:17:47
  It's clear that the hairstyle team is more efficient therapy.
• 2:17:50
  Yeah, the hairstyle team is a. Painting or whoever's doing the
• 2:17:53
  post that that is what they led with.
• 2:17:57
  Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't have I.
• 2:18:01
  Think it's like alphabetical though when art comes first.
• 2:18:03
  So. Think, think about if, if
• 2:18:07
  Squadron's delayed, they take all those devs, right?
• 2:18:11
  They put them on hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 2:18:14
  They put them on working on the PU, right?
• 2:18:17
  They, they, they, they work on making them help with the game
• 2:18:20
  mechanics to build a community, whatever, right?
• 2:18:23
  But then they get that experience and they get the
• 2:18:24
  sense of what the real, larger universe is like, and they bring
• 2:18:29
  that back into Squadron 42 in order to make it feel a little
• 2:18:35
  bit better and a little more expansive.
• 2:18:43
  I hear what you're saying. I think it's a, it's a not a not
• 2:18:45
  a bad idea. I just, I don't think there's a
• 2:18:48
  frog's chance in hell that that that's the path that things are
• 2:18:53
  going. To go.
• 2:18:55
  I mean, maybe not, but it's wishful thinking.
• 2:18:57
  And that's half of, well, sorry, 80% of Star Citizen fandom.
• 2:19:04
  Right, they're full steam, right?
• 2:19:05
  As of now, they're full steam on Squadron, right?
• 2:19:08
  That's what the the. Assumption is 100%.
• 2:19:11
  Yeah, there's there's this is not like what we've seen so far
• 2:19:15
  this year and even in like stability and the the amount of
• 2:19:20
  content that they've put into the game is not reflective of
• 2:19:24
  1000 person team. The factor UI like where's our
• 2:19:28
  new UI dude? Why are we just still using the
• 2:19:30
  old UI, right? Like and how long does it take
• 2:19:35
  you to develop that? And you didn't go back in like 6
• 2:19:38
  a few things and like change a few things.
• 2:19:39
  Clearly you've either fired that whole team got or something
• 2:19:46
  happened to that whole team and they don't work anymore.
• 2:19:48
  You back burn Bernard it or you move them to squadron 42 or
• 2:19:52
  something happened where like that UI team is not working on
• 2:19:56
  UI for Star Citizen. That's just obvious at this
• 2:19:59
  point given it's been over a year now.
• 2:20:03
  How long has? It been they might be working on
• 2:20:06
  the next iteration, I mean when we did finally get the updates
• 2:20:09
  to frankly the star map. Maybe this has?
• 2:20:13
  Gone through so many iterations. Even even the star.
• 2:20:16
  Map every two years. The Moby Glass got a giant
• 2:20:19
  facelift there for at least a decade.
• 2:20:22
  Yeah, but that's my point. Like the star map was supposed
• 2:20:24
  to be like a tier one, like they had, they were like, and there's
• 2:20:27
  gonna be more coming and there hasn't been any more coming.
• 2:20:30
  You can't set your own locations which they had promised.
• 2:20:34
  Yeah, it's a lot of stuff. You can't go back to your ship,
• 2:20:37
  which they had for like half a second for some.
• 2:20:39
  Reason. Hold on, I I will say that is
• 2:20:41
  the coolest thing about the most recent patch, at least for me,
• 2:20:44
  is the fact that you do have markers.
• 2:20:48
  For. Your capital ships when you
• 2:20:50
  leave them in your subcraft like that.
• 2:20:53
  Should be able to. That's super cool.
• 2:20:56
  Like that has opened up giant new avenues of gameplay for even
• 2:20:59
  just a two person team. You should be able to do it for
• 2:21:03
  all of your ships, though. I mean, it it you should be able
• 2:21:06
  to set custom markers regardless.
• 2:21:08
  I mean there's like some sort of right, right Stanton positioning
• 2:21:12
  system, I imagine. I mean, it's the future, you
• 2:21:15
  know, and you're able to just. Having that notice the having
• 2:21:17
  that feature alone though has been a noticeable improvement.
• 2:21:20
  Just being able to park your capital ship in orbit, take a
• 2:21:23
  captain's yacht down to the surface, do something, and then
• 2:21:27
  come back and be able to find your ship.
• 2:21:29
  It's not just. Apple ships, ships have markers.
• 2:21:32
  It's huge. Yeah, all ships have markers
• 2:21:34
  now, which I thought was a huge. That was just this amazing.
• 2:21:37
  Addition, yeah, but do they? Because beacons don't work.
• 2:21:43
  Hey. Service beacons, I would love to
• 2:21:45
  see functionality brought back into those.
• 2:21:47
  Like are you talking about like medical beacons, just general
• 2:21:50
  transport beacons or? Yeah, I mean, all, all sorts of
• 2:21:54
  things, the things that used to, you know, like I'd be sitting
• 2:21:57
  there waiting for some dude to show up, you know, like, and
• 2:22:00
  then you'd hear him fight, and then you both got to fight your
• 2:22:02
  way out. Those things are kind of fun,
• 2:22:05
  but they have to have an incentive to do it.
• 2:22:07
  I mean, shit, I mean, I don't know, make make reach in on a
• 2:22:12
  timer. Can't reach in for another 10
• 2:22:15
  minutes. The game wastes enough time.
• 2:22:18
  What's another 10 minutes? Heat up some burritos.
• 2:22:22
  Before we end, I just want to say that I looked up that audio
• 2:22:27
  guy. His name is Simon, Gretchen or
• 2:22:31
  Gershon. You have the work history there.
• 2:22:34
  Oh yeah, I got his. Eye.
• 2:22:35
  Where does he live? He.
• 2:22:37
  Lives in any of this anyway. He's been active since night
• 2:22:43
  like he lives in your mother's house.
• 2:22:45
  According to IMDb, he's been active since 1990 and he's been
• 2:22:49
  part of over 190 productions. OK.
• 2:22:54
  Oh yeah. I mean, mostly films.
• 2:22:55
  I was. Thinking about yeah, they run a
• 2:22:57
  very seasoned audio guy that's pretty cool.
• 2:22:59
  Hell yeah. Yeah, film and TVI mean, he's
• 2:23:02
  been around for a minute, so. Well, I.
• 2:23:05
  Better figure. It.
• 2:23:07
  I don't think we doubted his talents.
• 2:23:10
  I mean, the the audio in Star Citizen is * Citizen is actually
• 2:23:15
  really good and it's just he's walking into a, he's walking
• 2:23:19
  into a nest right now. Well, I just wanted to mention
• 2:23:22
  his name. So he's just not that audio guy
• 2:23:24
  that. Was on.
• 2:23:25
  That show, you know, I mean, let's give him the the credit
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  he's due at least, you know, he's a veteran of the
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  entertainment industry and hopefully he brings that that
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  experience and that knowledge and is able to leverage it and,
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  you know, in his new role with CIG audio.
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  Make audio face. You said his name was right.
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  Yeah, but it's spelled Simon Gershon.
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  Simon Gershom and I'm looking forward to see what he
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  contributes because you know, they they do have they they are
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  really good at procuring talent and the audio is one of the
• 2:24:05
  especially the music is one of the best things in the game.
• 2:24:06
  So I'm excited to see what he. Means page was what?
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  Part is, what part of the company is Jared with?
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  Is he part of marketing? Yes.
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  He's part of. Marketing.
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  Right. Do you think the marketing
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  department has a sub department called excuses?
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  Oh, yeah. Oh, big comms radio, your Star
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  We always give each one of our guests a kind of final word and
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  I, I try to go in order. I think I'll get it this time.
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  Wicket, you were first, first guest tonight.
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  Is there anything you want to say to CIG, Chris Roberts, or
• 2:25:07
  the people of the Internet? Sandy and Chris Roberts, you
• 2:25:12
  know, stop. Put the rudder back on the ship.
• 2:25:15
  Steer, please. And look, this guy Simon, he's
• 2:25:20
  really, he seems like really hyped.
• 2:25:22
  He's he's got a lot of energy. I really, I kind of like him.
• 2:25:25
  Just some first impressions. Let's not kill his vibe right
• 2:25:29
  off. Let's keep him around for a
• 2:25:30
  couple, couple of years. Let him work.
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  Thank you. Thank you.
• 2:25:36
  Wicket. Cosmic Kobo.
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  Our our Cosmic Kobo regular. Is there anything you want to
• 2:25:44
  say to CIG, Chris Roberts, or the people on the Internet?
• 2:25:48
  Just fix those cargo evaders please and try and incentivize.
• 2:25:53
  Them to you. Some more.
• 2:25:56
  That what I meant. Yeah, Lord Anubis, anything you
• 2:26:01
  want to say to CIG, Chris Roberts or the people on the
• 2:26:03
  Internet? CIG this time is important.
• 2:26:11
  You have the tools available to you.
• 2:26:15
  You can reallocate us or assets in order to create a thriving
• 2:26:21
  world that will keep your employees employed for years to
• 2:26:27
  come. We can wait a moment.
• 2:26:30
  We, we, we want to be able to experience the universe, not
• 2:26:34
  just play a game. I, at least in my opinion, not
• 2:26:37
  just play a game for a couple weeks.
• 2:26:38
  And that was a great experience. And it is an artistic experience
• 2:26:41
  and it is important. It is wonderful, but you could
• 2:26:44
  build so much more, so many more experiences if you just take a
• 2:26:48
  little bit of time while you have right now, while the game
• 2:26:52
  is fairly stable, to bring people in, build something
• 2:26:56
  bigger, and then return to it. Fresh perspective and with an
• 2:27:02
  enthusiastic, much larger fan base that is, you know,
• 2:27:07
  interconnected and making you a bunch of money.
• 2:27:11
  Because I need to buy a whole bunch more ships, sell more
• 2:27:14
  ships, and for the next 20 years.
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  Thank you. Thank you, Lord Anubis.