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CFB DFS Week 8 Saturday Slate | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 2: lot different slate of college football games than we had
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  Speaker 2: last week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely not the exciting ranked matchups. Last week's going
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  Speaker 1: to be hard to top as far as college football watchability,
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  Speaker 1: but it's an okay slate of games. I kind of
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  Speaker 1: feel like it's going to be a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: of a lower scoring slate, which I kind of prefer.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, ready to get into it. It's hard to
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  Speaker 1: believe it's already, what is it? Is it week eight? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: week eight.
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  Speaker 2: It's week eight. Yes. And talking about low scoring slates,
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  Speaker 2: some of those slates for midweek this week, just gross,
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  Speaker 2: especially that showdown with New Mexico State and Sam Houston.
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  Speaker 2: I pulled this up, but I'm going to pull it
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  Speaker 2: up again because it is the wolf season. I said
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  Speaker 2: it actually Over the summer, this is Minnesota's best chance
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  Speaker 2: at getting all four championships in the four-major men's sport,
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  Speaker 2: the Twins being the most risky. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 2: going to happen, but I think it's the best chance
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  Speaker 2: we've had. It's a fun time to be a Minnesota
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  Speaker 2: sports fan, outside of maybe college football, as we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about later in the show. But that's a weird, unfortunate
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  Speaker 2: transition into this week's slate. We have LSU at Auburn.
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  Speaker 2: This spread's moved slightly. LSU now a touchdown favorite. I
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  Speaker 2: had it at seven and a half when I took
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  Speaker 2: my notes earlier this week. But LSU, I mean, they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be in a good spot. I did not
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  Speaker 2: fact check this, but I believe, or double check myself.
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  Speaker 2: I shouldn't say fact check, double check myself. I believe
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  Speaker 2: this is eight games in eight straight weeks for LSU.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they've had a bye or if
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  Speaker 2: they did, it was early in the season. Either way,
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  Speaker 2: they're still going to look good. I mean, they're a
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  Speaker 2: good football team. They have a high powered offense. Sam Leavitt,
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  Speaker 2: even at 8,700 in a decent spot. Dylan Jones is
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  Speaker 2: a guy we talk about, very involved in the passing game,
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  Speaker 2: gets a lot of workload. It just hasn't found the
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  Speaker 2: end zone the last couple of weeks. But when you're
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  Speaker 2: getting seven catches a game, getting seven points just on
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  Speaker 2: receptions alone, that's going to look great for a running back.
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  Speaker 2: And then this wide receiver room, Trades Green is completely
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  Speaker 2: off the report, but he's cheap. What exactly his workload
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  Speaker 2: is going to be is a little bit more unknown.
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  Speaker 2: But then you're looking at Winston Watkins and Jackson Harris,
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  Speaker 2: because for some reason, Jace Brown's not playing. But Watkins
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  Speaker 2: has been pretty steady. Jackson Harris is the guy that's
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  Speaker 2: getting a lot of the touchdowns. I mean, if you're just,
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  Speaker 2: even if you're just box score watching, you're seeing he's
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  Speaker 2: scoring a lot of points because he's fine in the
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  Speaker 2: end zone. And then on the Auburn side, is it
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  Speaker 2: still considered a letdown week? Like, is this a hangover?
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  Speaker 2: Like they're not a great football team. Usually we consider,
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  Speaker 2: you know, big clashes, Alabama, Georgia, the following week for them,
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  Speaker 2: it's a hangover. They lose to a worse team, but
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  Speaker 2: Auburn's an underdog again. Like, is it considered a letdown
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  Speaker 2: if they lose this game? I don't know. Maybe if
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  Speaker 2: they get blown out, but Byron Brown's still probably a
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  Speaker 2: little bit too cheap. I I'll, I'll defer to you
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  Speaker 2: on the running backs. Cause I still have no interest,
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  Speaker 2: but then Singleton and Nimrod still wide receiver one and two.
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  Speaker 2: But if Christian Neptune is going to be throwing touchdowns
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  Speaker 2: at men price, if he's going to be on the field,
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  Speaker 2: do it in multiple different ways. That's, I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: going to catch my eye. What are you thinking about
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  Speaker 2: this LSU Auburn matchup?
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  Speaker 1: I guess I'll kind of start with the Auburn side
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  Speaker 1: because it's pretty simple for me. Byron Brown is a
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  Speaker 1: great price. He's, he should be like a thousand dollars more.
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  Speaker 1: He's kind of, he's had a really good floor this year,
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  Speaker 1: even though it hasn't necessarily felt like it. And I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just because we're so used to these huge
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  Speaker 1: Byron Brown games when he was in South Florida, but
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  Speaker 1: he's still pretty solid for that price. Um, these top
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  Speaker 1: two receivers are a little too expensive for me. That
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  Speaker 1: being said, I think I'll probably take some shots on
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  Speaker 1: Chaz Nimrod. Um, I kind of like the slot matchup.
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  Speaker 1: It's not anything too peculiar, but it's just something I noticed. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so you can maybe do in GPPs, but the LSU
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  Speaker 1: side is super intriguing to me. Like I guess Levitt,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty safe to say like he's solid
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  Speaker 1: at his price. I feel like, I don't know, like
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  Speaker 1: a more competitive game. I don't know how competitive it's
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  Speaker 1: actually going to be, but I think it's like the
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  Speaker 1: more competitive, the more rushing upside he has. Um, Dylan Jones,
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  Speaker 1: just that volume and not getting the touchdowns. Like there's
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  Speaker 1: definitely going to be a week where he does get
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  Speaker 1: the touchdowns. It could be this week and he's going
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  Speaker 1: to really pay off this $ 8, 200 price tag, even though
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  Speaker 1: it feels a little overpriced right now. Um, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they were through, I don't know how many passes he
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  Speaker 1: caught last week, but it had to have been like
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  Speaker 1: North of like seven. Um, And then these receivers like
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  Speaker 1: trade is, I guess, kind of starting with him, him
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  Speaker 1: being available. He's been like, like above 5k, like even
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  Speaker 1: 6k before he got hurt at 3,800. He doesn't need
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  Speaker 1: to really play that much to pay off that tag.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's such a red zone threat. And I think,
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm definitely going to be overweight on him.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to garner that much ownership,
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  Speaker 1: but it'll be, time will tell. Like I could see
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  Speaker 1: him steaming as well, just as it becomes, he's more available.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, also, within the range of outcomes is that
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Harris traded as green, and all these guys are
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  Speaker 1: doubtful on the report tonight after not being on it
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  Speaker 1: all week. Like, I can totally see some lame kiff
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  Speaker 1: and BS here. But, yeah, really my favorite play on
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  Speaker 1: LSU is probably Jackson Harris, assuming everything's okay. He's had
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  Speaker 1: over 20 points in three of his last four games. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I think this $ 5, 800 price tag is an extreme bargain. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like he's emerging in this offense as, like,
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  Speaker 1: a– like a true alpha. Like I, I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: surprised to see him be 7,800 soon instead of 5,800,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I really love the LSU side. Not too
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  Speaker 1: wild about the Auburn side, um, for whatever it's worth.
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  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily go like live by this, but LSU
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  Speaker 1: does have the highest graded defense on PFF. So, um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know it's not as pretty as it looks
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  Speaker 1: for Auburn I think as it does like when you
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  Speaker 1: see that nice Byron Brown projection that's over 3x but
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  Speaker 1: yeah it's a good game to start the slate for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And another thing is we're talking about Jackson Harris his
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  Speaker 2: last four games eight targets four targets seven targets six
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  Speaker 2: targets and he has caught all but Three of them.
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  Speaker 2: So his catch rate, he's catching the targets that he's
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  Speaker 2: getting thrown, which makes a big difference. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: some guys who don't do that, and that's why they
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  Speaker 2: carry a lot more risk. But if you get thrown
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  Speaker 2: the ball and you catch it, good for daily fantasy sports.
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  Speaker 2: All right, as we move on to the next game,
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  Speaker 2: But we're moving on to Texas Tech at Cincinnati, an 11.5
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  Speaker 2: point spread. This has moved in favor of Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 2: And usually you see these bigger spreads and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you assume that Texas Tech is going to win. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about big spreads throughout this slate. But this has
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  Speaker 2: been just such a weird year. Like there's no way
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  Speaker 2: South Carolina can beat Florida. There's no way Florida can
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  Speaker 2: beat Texas. There's no way Auburn can beat Georgia. Or
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  Speaker 2: they could. It's been an or they could year in
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  Speaker 2: so many different spots. I mean, Texas has been the
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  Speaker 2: victim twice. I don't think we need to be the
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  Speaker 2: ones to tell you that. But Cincinnati's at home. They're
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  Speaker 2: still projected to put points up on the board. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it's out of the question that they could
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  Speaker 2: overcome this double-digit spread and win. But the Texas Tech
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  Speaker 2: side is still very interesting because Will Hammond is still sub-6K.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like his floor is safe at that price. Now,
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  Speaker 2: as safe as a floor can be when you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about fantasy sports, But Hammond at 5,800 is in a
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  Speaker 2: great spot. Jacoby Williams averaging 15 yards a carry last week.
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  Speaker 2: Is that sustainable? I mean, maybe for him, especially in
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  Speaker 2: a matchup like this, but he's involved in the passing
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  Speaker 2: game too. 7,900. I'm not going to balk at that.
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  Speaker 2: Joyner was on the field enough for 4,900, but obviously
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  Speaker 2: like Williams is going to get the first look with
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  Speaker 2: Dickey still out. And then talk about too cheap. Kenny
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  Speaker 2: Johnson still sub 5k. the number one option in this offense.
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  Speaker 2: I know Terrence Carter came back and had a pretty
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  Speaker 2: significant game a couple of weeks ago, but last game
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  Speaker 2: I'll prove that Kenny Johnson is still the number one here.
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  Speaker 2: And then Cincinnati, if Jabron Payne can't go, Cole Tasman's
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  Speaker 2: super effective in this running back room. It's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit tougher matchup, but again, injuries lead to maybe some
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  Speaker 2: underpriced positional players And Colt Tab's a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: expensive than I'd like him to be, but if he's
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  Speaker 2: going to get everything, he's another guy who's just been
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  Speaker 2: really efficient when he touches the ball. JC French at 6,700
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  Speaker 2: can run a little bit. He can sling it around
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. And he's got his favorite target, JV Gibson,
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  Speaker 2: Giovanni Gibson, if you remember from Oklahoma last year. Isaiah
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  Speaker 2: Johnson has been seeing an uptick the last couple of weeks, though,
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  Speaker 2: so I wouldn't say no to him. And even Malachi Henry,
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  Speaker 2: he had the spike of all spike games last time
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  Speaker 2: out two catches one for 69 yards, one for 59 yards. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: if you're looking for just the hail Mary that, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's on two plays, he paid off easy. Uh, this,
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  Speaker 2: this game, even with the bigger spread is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit intriguing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's, I guess you'll notice a trend these next
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  Speaker 1: three games. The favorite has a 34 team total. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I guess kind of starting with the Texas Tech side,
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  Speaker 1: like Will Hammond's a fair price. I don't really– I
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  Speaker 1: don't– I think the only way I'm playing Will Hammond
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  Speaker 1: is with two other Texas Tech guys. He just has
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  Speaker 1: not shown that ceiling, and he doesn't run like he
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  Speaker 1: used to. I'm kind of just out on him. I'll
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  Speaker 1: probably sprinkle him in and, like, run him back with
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  Speaker 1: a Bearcat. And then Jacoby Williams, there's three running backs
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  Speaker 1: on the slate that I feel like are kind of
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  Speaker 1: in their own tier, and he's one of them. I–
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  Speaker 1: but he had 33 fantasy points and like 13 touches. Like,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously that efficiency isn't always going to be there,
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  Speaker 1: but he's a really good football player. Like, and there's
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  Speaker 1: some volume upside in this matchup. This one's on the road.
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  Speaker 1: Texas tech was at home against a Arizona state team.
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  Speaker 1: That is down bad. I think it was 45, nothing
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  Speaker 1: in halftime if I remember right. So I think there's a,
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  Speaker 1: some volume upside for Jacoby as compared to last week. Joyner, I, Gosh,
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  Speaker 1: he's not efficient like Dickey and Williams are. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I'm going to get there again this week.
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  Speaker 1: I really liked him last week. Again, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to play them together this week. Last week
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  Speaker 1: was a little different game scenario. But he's definitely worth
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  Speaker 1: being talked about and looked into. The receivers, he kind
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  Speaker 1: of covered it well. Kenny Johnson, he was pretty involved
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  Speaker 1: right away in that game, and it just got out
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  Speaker 1: of hand. He's a super fair price guy at $ 4, 900. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I just got, don't need to add much there. Um,
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  Speaker 1: the Cincinnati side for me. So Mikey Keene, I can't
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  Speaker 1: remember exactly when he came in last week, but he
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  Speaker 1: threw for 250 yards or two touchdowns. I mean, that
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  Speaker 1: being said, like Texas tech probably in the fourth quarter
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  Speaker 1: had their walk-ons on defense. I know that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of that stuff was done in the second half. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to translate here with French.
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  Speaker 1: Like if we're going to try to like, and this
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  Speaker 1: is just trying to pick a spot that you could
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  Speaker 1: attack Texas tech. You don't need to play a bear cap,
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  Speaker 1: any of these Texas tech guys by any means, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I kind of like these receivers. Like I
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  Speaker 1: think I'm going to play French and pair him and
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  Speaker 1: run him back with the tech guy, especially like a
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  Speaker 1: Malachi Henry. He turns one of those catches into a
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  Speaker 1: touchdown last week. That's fine at 3,900, um, You know,
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  Speaker 1: that would really, like, unlock, like, if you were playing
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  Speaker 1: a wheel hammer, that would really unlock some upside for
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  Speaker 1: him that we haven't seen. The running back situation, it's
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  Speaker 1: super hard to tell. Like, Colt Tabb, his– and I
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  Speaker 1: haven't looked for a couple days. His prop may have changed.
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  Speaker 1: But he only had, like, a 53-and-a-half-yard rushing prop, which
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  Speaker 1: would maybe kind of indicate that maybe Jabron Payne is
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  Speaker 1: going to play. But he did have an ankle injury.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't think he's going to. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: we got this guy that's been super efficient, scoring a
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  Speaker 1: ton of touchdowns. He's got a 53-yard prop against a
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  Speaker 1: tough matchup, but gosh, he's been so good. I think
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: it's going to be like an ownership. Like if he's
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: 20% or more, which is a possibility, like especially if
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: we get news of Payne's out, like I think I'm
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: underweight on that. If he happens to like moonwalk, I
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: might be more interested, but I think that's how I'm
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: going to handle that. I'm more interested in the Cincinnati
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: passing than Coltab. As scary as that is, like that's
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: kind of famous last words with how good he's been.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: but yeah, this is a, it's a, it's more interesting
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: than it appears at first.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I do like that more with Cincinnati at home,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: just because Cincinnati has had just a couple of weeks
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: and I don't, I can't even tell you for sure
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: if it's only this year, if it goes back to
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: last year where they just lay some eggs when they
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: traveled to Arizona was one. I mean, that could have
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: been a body clock thing. That was one of those
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: late night games and, you know, travel, but just, I mean, that,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't shock me to see him score seven points.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't shock me to see him win the game
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: or anything in between. As we move along, get questions
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: in if you have them in the chat. I know
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: there's a handful of you out there watching live. If
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: you're not watching live, get them in the comments. I
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: try to get to those before lock on Saturday. But
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: we'll get to them as best we can. Here live
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: is always the best option. West Virginia at TCU, another 30,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: as you said, 34-point favorite. 34-point implied team total for
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: a favorite, a 10.5-point spread. This has moved towards TCU
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: quite a few points since it opened. I believe it
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: was at a touchdown when it opened. Now it's at 10.5.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: On the West Virginia side, we know what their offense
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: has been. Michael Hawkins, rightfully so, 9,700. He did not
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: run the ball super well. He only had 70 yards.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he had a touchdown in the
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: last game, but he threw for like 460, which is
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: not necessarily what you think of when you think of Hawkins,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: but just proving he can get it done through the air.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Cam Cook kind of had a dud game. He's a
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: little bit, I think he's cheaper. I'd have to look back,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: but 8,400 seems like an okay price for him in
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: terms of his ability. And then DJ Epps at 5,600.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: If you're going to play a wide receiver, if you're
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: going to play this passing game, he stands out as
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: the number one guy, but Prince Strachan, former Boise State guy,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: has seen an uptick in usage over the past two,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: three games. I think he was actually hurt for for
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: a few games and has played really well since he's
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: come back. But the thing is, TCU hasn't given up
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: more than 21 points in the game this season. So
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: it's going to be an interesting matchup between the West
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Virginia offense and the TCU defense. As interesting, for a
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: completely different reason, this TCU offense against the West Virginia defense,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: because by our metrics, West Virginia is the worst pass
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: defense in college football, in FBS defense. I think according
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to PFF, they're second worst graded in front of the
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: team that fired their defensive coordinator at halftime, if that
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: tells you anything. But Jaden Craig is 6,400 in this matchup.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I think that's probably too cheap. In the running back room,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: it's going to be quite an interesting thing. Jeremy Payne
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: is questionable. He only played a handful of snaps in
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: their last game, and I know that because I had
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: him in my lineup. And I think he ended up
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: either with negative points or less than one. But I
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: would not be surprised if he doesn't go weak. Hopefully
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: we'll get more information on the Friday night availability report.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: So that leaves John Denman. And actually, I don't mind
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Amante Martin here either, because Landon Walker is doubtful. He's
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the guy that got some snaps when pain went down.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: But Amante Martin's a four-star freshman who played high school
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: in the 5A level at Texas at Port Arthur Memorial
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: and You know, they almost got to the state championship.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: And in high school, he was a quarterback and a
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: running back. And I know TCU has run the Wildcat
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: in the past when they have guys that can do that.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Another thing is that we might see Major Everhart in
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: the backfield. I know he's taken some backfield snaps this
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: year as well. But really, it's John Denman is going
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: to be your guy. If Payne doesn't go, maybe we
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: see some Martins. But with a $ 300 difference, you want
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: a little bit more security than Coach saying Martin's going
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: to get an uptick in usage. And then the wide
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: receiver room, I mean, we already talked about the West
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Virginia defense. These guys are all cheap. Ashley is questionable,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: so we'll have to see his status as well. But
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: it just sets up incredibly for Ed Small and Jordan Dwyer. Like,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: we're licking our chops with this matchup. We almost have
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: to rein it in a little bit so we don't
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: overdo it, but... everything sets up for a TCU offensive on.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't remember quite a time where the three
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: highest owned players on the slate are going to be
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: all from one team, but I would not be surprised
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: if that's the case with these, uh, TCU pass catchers. Um,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm going to kind of start with West
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Virginia here first, cause it's a lot more brief. Um,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: it's probably going to be about as low as own
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: as Michael Hawkins is going to be in any matchup,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: just out of the respect for the TCU defense and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: pricing's a little bit tighter. Um, so, I mean, I
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: guess the ownership is definitely a reason to play. And
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: we've kind of been able to see him get there
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: two different ways. And you kind of mentioned that, um,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: cam cook, gosh, dang it. I really want as bad
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: as I want to. And think of this is actually,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: this is done on me. It is actually a revenge
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: game for cam cook.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Uh, So, I mean, 8,400, and that's just narrative. That
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't add any DFS value necessarily.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I love revenge narratives.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: No doubt about that. They're definitely fun to talk about,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: but he's just too expensive here. I'll probably play some
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: of him, just because this TCU side is going to
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: be buy-owned, and these guys are going to be solo-owned.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I don't mind the run back still. I'll probably take
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: some shots on Strack and then Epps. two in game
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: stacks but as a whole i'm kind of down on
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: west virginia just as like the you know projections indicate
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: um i don't i feel like at some point this
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: is going to kind of come crashing not crashing down
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: a little bit but there's got to be some so
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: there's a bus coming and not that a lot of
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: people are on it but um and then yeah so
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: tcu side as i alluded to probably the three guys
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: on the slate um are these three i think the
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: way i'm kind of building this week is like I
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: usually do a group of main lineups that I enter
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: in qualifiers and like just like the $ 44, the 2-2-2,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. I think I'm going to do like
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: a set of six lineups where I just like lock
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: this and then like another five lineups or something like
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: that where I don't play any of it. The way
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that this fails is if like, and it's not the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: same old, same old as it's always been, but TCU
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: is definitely known for BS touchdowns. like if Amante Martin
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: scores a touchdown, major Everhart scores a touchdown, TCU is
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: able to run the ball, which they've like tried to
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: establish the run. They just haven't been good at it
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: at all. And I think that's kind of killed their
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: offensive upside as a whole, but if TCU tries to
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: establish the run, um, and you know, Denman's still like
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a solid play. Like I think he'll be owned enough
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: to where like, I wouldn't be surprised to see all
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: four of these guys be played. I mean, that's such
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: a little amount of salary for a 34 point team total. Um,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: But that's the way they fail if there's a bunch
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: of stupid touchdowns. Craig doesn't run at all. That being said, 6,400,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: like he was six yards short of the bonus last week.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Like that game didn't look as good. But, yeah, it's,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: you know, last week I talked about the stoppable force
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: versus the movable object. And the movable object held its
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: ground for a change. But I hear with how poor
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: West Virginia's pass sequence is, This spot is just so elite. Like,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I just think you kind of start here. Especially if
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you're building one lineup, start with these three guys and
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: figure it out from there. And, I mean, there's a
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: ton of different options that you could still be unique
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: even with these guys. But, yeah, for a 10 a.m. game,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: this TC side is going to dictate the slate big time. Like,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: if these guys fail, it's going to be super, super
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: low scoring. But, yeah, this is definitely– I don't know,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: probably the biggest DFS applications in the slate in this game. Yeah.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: And I stole that tagline here as a stoppable force
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: versus movable object from my pre-show tweet. I like that
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: a lot. What's going on, Zim? Glad to see you
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: back again. A frequent visitor to the Ship It Nation,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: frequent viewer, viewer, visitor, all of the above. All right.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Moving on to Pittsburgh at Miami. I mean, it's, It's
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: pretty predictable how this is going to go. I don't
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: know that I have much interest in Pittsburgh at all.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Huge road dog. I mean, like, Corey Daly's cheap, but there's... Honestly,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: there's going to be other cheap quarterbacks we'll talk about
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: that I would much rather play. Running backs, I don't
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: know if I'm ever going to play a Pittsburgh running
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: back again in my life because this room has been
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: a mess for years. And then wide receivers, like, I
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: They.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Malik Knight's cheap is kind of where I'll leave that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I know he's got the deep threat ability. And if
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's going to be throwing a lot and one of
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: these guys happens to fall into the end zone after
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: five or six catches, that could be enough at these
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: prices outside of maybe Hicks. On the Miami side, Darian Mensah,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, he can get there at any price. And $ 9, 000
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: is not anything that's going to, you know, waver me
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: on that. The running back room is interesting. Fletcher didn't
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: finish a game last week. Pringle only played a handful
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: of snaps. You brought it up yesterday when we were
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: chatting that he's going to just decline, Mark Fletcher is,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the regular season. Then when they
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: get to the playoff, he's going to be sub 5K
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: again and then blow up. This running back room, they
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: could run out any one of those four guys that
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: we have on the screen, Fletcher, Mallory, Lyle, Pringle, and
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't shock me. to see one of them get
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: more carries than another although you're getting a discount with
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: a couple of them and then the wide receiver room
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: malachi tony is just on another level and he's priced
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: like it he's priced he should be priced along right
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: alongside jeremiah smith he's in the same category in terms
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: of talent ability obviously they're built different but for dfs
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: if you score points you score points and both of
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: those guys are are in a league of their own
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: But really, honestly, all of these guys carry a bunch
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: of upside. Bar-Kate, Upshaw, Lofton, even Dre Jacobs has a
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: little bit of upside at $ 3, 500. So I'm really focused
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: on the Miami side, but that's more of the cash
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: single entry, even up to $ 20, 000 max. $ 150, 000 is a
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: little different. How are you looking at this game? Oh,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: did you get hit by the mute monster? Dude.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Hey, I was like, what happened to you? I thought
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: you were put like dropping some breaking news. Somebody was
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: in or out or got fired or something. And I'm like,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Oh crap, what happened? But yeah, finally got me. I've
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: been okay. Cool. Now we're back. Anyways. So pit I'm
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: out on pit Malik night. I'll probably have some shares of,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: but that's literally it. I don't even feel like, dealing
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: with his running backs. I'm like, really, I don't fully
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: believe that the quarterback is going to get a full
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: run either. It's just a really murky spot. And then
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the Miami side. So yeah, you touched on Fletcher and
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just, I think I'm out on all of them
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: and just going to lean on the old Pittsburgh's a
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: pass funnel. That being said, I don't necessarily know if
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I think Miami could kind of move the ball wherever
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: they wanted to. I kind of thought about this more
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: with Mensa. If that is the case, I don't see
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: why they wouldn't let Mensa let it rip. Let's say
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: he throws for five touchdowns. That's going to be pretty
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: good at 9K still. And on this slate, if you
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: can get to it, the issue is you probably want
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: to pair him with Malachi Toney, and then that's really
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of salary. And I would say pair him
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: with Malachi Toney and one of the Barcade Upshaws Loftons.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I've kind of thought about it. I almost like, I
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: really don't mind Barcate or Upshaw. Like they're out there
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: every single play. And I mean, obviously Lofton is too
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: now that Luka Gilbert's out, but I mean, Upshaw's 4k
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: is out there every, you know, all the time. Did
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: he score? I think he had a long touchdown last
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: week or he had a long pass play. I can't
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: remember that. I remember seeing, um, but as the week's
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: gone on, I have more interest in these secondary Miami
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: pass catchers in doubles with Mensa. Um, I really don't
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: even hate like upshot of arcade is one offs. Like I,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me if they paid off their price
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: tag and we're fine. I don't, don't know quite how
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I'm going to build it out. And then yeah, Tony, like,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: do you feel comfortable playing a Mensa stack without Tony?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Like that's kind of like my debate right now. Like I,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he takes two of these secondary
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: guys with him and it's just a lot of salary
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: so it's still it's still tough um but yeah i
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: still still love tony probably honestly more as a more
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: as a one-off but yeah so you have a malachi
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: tony shirt on today so i can't talk about it
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: but yeah i love the miami side Still don't quite
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: know how I'm going to build with it, but I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: love all these pass catchers.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, if you're simply just looking at
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: stacking Mensa and Tony, that's more than a third of
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: your salary, almost 40% of your salary on two guys. So,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: but that's, if you're going for a double stack, it
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: works a little bit better because of how cheap the
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: other guys are. I don't know if I would go
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Tony bar Kate, but with Tony, what do you want
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: in that double stack? 30 points? at least.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And like Tony, like really Tony can create so much
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: by himself. Like he's, he could throw a touchdown pass,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: run one in. He gets a high volume of catches. Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess, you know what? I'd probably, well, gosh,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I want to
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: force like the Tony with Mensa, no matter what is
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: what my debate is going to be at the end
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: of the day, but I'm sure hopefully by 10 a.m. tomorrow,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I have the answer or else I'm going to have problems.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is certainly an option. Tony's one of
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: those guys that can just force feed. He could have
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: 15 targets, 13 catches, 250 yards, and three touchdowns, and
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: everybody else could be left in the dust. But honestly,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: if the ball gets spread out, and even if Tony
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: has two touchdowns and Barkay has one, Upshaw has one,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: you're getting Barkay and Upshaw for cheaper than Tony if
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: you play them together. So that's kind of where you
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: have to have– this internal debate, is it a Tony
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: game or is it not a Tony game? And how
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: much salary do you want to eat up with two positions?
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: But that upside is through the roof. I mean, we
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: talked about this with Jeremiah Smith a few weeks ago. Like,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a lot of money. And then
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: he goes out and scores 63 points or whatever it was.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: So there is a path to pay off.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, last year, I mean, not really relative to this year,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: but Tony did throw a touchdown pass against Pitt last year.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, nice. And is this, I mean, the path is
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: paved for Mensah and Tony to both make it to
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: the Heisman Ceremony now with all the injuries, right?
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Definitely on the table. All right. So, yes, some more
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: friendly prices in the next game, but for a lot
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: lower total. Indiana and Michigan, you know, normally I would
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: say this is a better real-life football game, but I
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: don't know if that's necessarily true this year. One interesting
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: note about this game, the initial injury report came out
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: and Michigan listed 15 guys on their report and Indiana
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: listed zero. I can't imagine that's a hundred percent true.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I think it might be a Cignetti move to not
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: put anybody on the injury report, at least on the
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: initial and maybe update it later in the week. But
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I do think Hoover's a little bit banged up 7,500.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Just we talk about Hoover week after week when he's
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: on the slate. And I mean, you could argue that,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: that Michigan's past defense is pretty good, but you could
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: also argue that Drake Lindsay is the best quarterback they faced.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: And I don't, that's not like a, like a super
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: high endorsement on this defense. So I don't know. I mean,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Hoover never seems to really do much for me, Richard
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: and BB, the split bugs me for how expensive they
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: are and their running games actually struggled a little bit.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Even with a touchdown, Richard didn't come close to value
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: last week, obviously much different matchup. And then Becker and Marsh,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: this is, This is one of those games I could
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: just see an explosion after what happened last week, especially
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Nick Marsh, just on the vibes, like nothing to do
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: with actual DFS strategy, but just on vibes alone, like
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Nick Marsh ceiling game, they got to get his spirits
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: back up. Like that was, it was a pretty well
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: thrown ball. I watched a replay a few times and
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: he should have caught that imbalance. Indiana should have won.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I would like Becker and Marsh regardless. That's
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: probably where I'm looking on the Indiana side. And then
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: in Michigan, big news is Tommy Carr starting. He played
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: some against Penn State. If nothing else, he took care
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: of the ball. But there's very little film on him.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's a little bit of a leg up. But
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I still just go back to Buchanan and Marsh because
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I don't love this running game. I haven't loved it
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: all year. I thought Marshall was going to be a
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: lot better. coming in, but it just, nothing has really
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: come to fruition with this Michigan offense. It just kind
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: of sucks. Maybe Carr provides a spark, but it's, for me,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at Becker and Marsh and I don't know
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: how much I'm looking at anybody else, but Nick Marsh,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: we could just Marsh stack this game, Nick Marsh.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You got Nick Marsh, Andrew Marsh and Jordan Marshall.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah. I, Michigan, I'm just completely out
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: on it and I've, been one to give them the
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt a lot just because I love
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the targets here at Buchanan and Marsh Buchanan is probably
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the only one I considered like I just there's just
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: better places this game as a whole um yeah Indiana's
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: too muddled in the backfield and then yeah I'm with
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: you with the Becker or Marsh thing like it seems
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: like one of them has nuked every week regardless of
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: matchup and I was a little intimidated by this Michigan
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: secondary and I and I I mean I Generally, I
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: think Michigan's probably one of the top 10, if not
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: top five defenses in the country. I mean, I'm sure
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: whatever metric you look at, they're going to be up there.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: That being said, that doesn't scare me off of either
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: of these guys. And specifically as one-offs, like that's literally
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: all I'm playing in this game is a Becker or
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: a Marsh on the Indiana side. So yeah, don't really
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: have a ton to get into here. It's pretty boring. Yeah. Yeah.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Yep. I think that pretty much sums it up. We
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: don't need to spend too much time on this game.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: What I'll say for the rest of the season is
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the Gophers beat Michigan. That's all you need to know.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Get your questions in if you have them. If you
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: have anything, I mean, tell us what you're eating for lunch.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: It is lunchtime. We're interested in chatter. If you want
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: to talk shot, if you want to talk ball, any
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: of your favorite bets, get them in the chat. We're
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: happy to address. Oregon at Illinois. Ian, I am Robbins, who...
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Joins us most weeks is not here because a big
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: boy job. It's a busy week in the education field
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: for him. But he he told me the Oregon might
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: have the fastest wide receiver core in all of college football.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: And I don't disagree with him. We'll get into that.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: For those of you who haven't kept up with the news,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: we'll explain the joke in a moment. But Dylan Ray
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: all is getting start in all likelihood. Has that been confirmed?
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Have you seen that confirmed or is that just what
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: it looks like is going to happen?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I believe that nothing is confirmed that Lanning is doing
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Lanning things, but Dylan Raiola was the quarterback of the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: press conference this week. I guess you go ahead and
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: then I'll talk about last week because I did get
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: a little peek at this team last week, unfortunately.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: UCLA is probably better than Illinois. That was Raiola's last start.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I've think you can look at rayola again at 6800
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: and not take that into consideration but this wide receiver
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: core is going to be the biggest talking point with
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: oregon um the joke was that they're the fastest wide
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: receiver core in college football that's because you know jamari
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: johnson got a speeding ticket got cited for speeding they
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: were rumored to be part of a street racing like
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: involved in street racing those rumors were kind of squashed
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: i don't know how much i believe it but um
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Jamari Johnson got cited for a speeding ticket. It looks
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: like he's going to go. Who's not going to go
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: is Evan Stewart, who already missed last game and was
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: arrested for DUII, which I learned about is driving under
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: the influence of intoxicants. So the extra I I hadn't
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: seen before, but either way, he's not going to play.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: So that does leave the Corian more in a great spot.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Jamari Johnson in a solid spot. Messiah Hampton is going
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: to see the field again. One thing that's interesting is
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: De'Ari Hill actually lined up from the slot on 32%
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: of his snaps or 32% of his passing snaps against Nebraska. Now,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: is that because of the injuries in the wide receiver
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: room or is it just the way the scheme went?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Either way, he saw more time at wide receiver, which
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: is kind of intriguing because they're going to be rolling
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: out the same personnel here. And that opens up the
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: backfield for Jordan Davison and Brandon Smith, who got a
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: little bit of extra run last week. And Brandon Smith,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: true freshman. This is a trend for Oregon that I'm
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: about to dive into because with the injuries last week,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: true freshman as well. Jalen Lott played 49 snaps. True
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: freshman Messiah Hampton already had increased runs since McClellan went down.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: True freshman Gatlin Bear even ran 11 routes last week.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: He didn't have any stats to speak of. I believe
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: he had a target and that was it. But these
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: young guys are getting a lot more run. And in
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: a game where you're facing a defense like Illinois, who's
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: been ridden with injuries and struggled, this is a situation
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: where I could see them seeing what they have in
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: these guys. They already spread the ball around to begin with,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: but I think you're starting with DeCorean and Jamari Johnson.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: The running backs are going to be tough, maybe like
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Hill because of what they did within last week. But again,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: just it's the same old Oregon story. It feels like
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: somebody is going to do it. You don't know who,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and then you get to the game and they.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Just don't score points.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: That's, I don't know, like, at this point, you just
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: bet that Oregon under and move on. Maybe not against
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: his defense, but on the Illinois side, Caden Hauser's out.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: We'll likely see Michael Clayton, who came in in relief.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: It was actually pretty effective. He's a true freshman three-star recruit.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: PFF actually has him listed as a halfback. I don't
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: know why, because he's 6'4, 210, and he's definitely a
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: pocket passer, so that was weird. I couldn't find him.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I 4,900. I mean, if you're looking for a cheap quarterback, gosh,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I just, I don't know. I don't know if I'm
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: going to need to go down there this week, but
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: if you need a cheap quarterback, I would consider him
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: over Daly with Pitt. Or who was the other? Was
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: there another guy that was in the 5Ks? No, I
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: think it was just Daly. Either way, Aiden Loffrey has
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: taken over this backfield with no Khalil Valentine. Anderson and
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Barnett will see the field, but Loffrey is going to
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: get the lion's share. And then this run at wide
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: receiver room, it's still Colin Dixon, but we did see
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: more Clement and Braden Trimble action against Michigan State, including
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: a touchdown from Clayton to Clement. So, I mean, he
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: got enough time since this game went into overtime that
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: he did get a significant amount of time with this
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: wide receiver core, and he was spreading it out to
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: these three top guys in Dixon, Clement, and Trimble. So,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not completely writing this team off because of a
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: backup quarterback in that sense. But one thing that's an
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: X factor is we still have no idea what Jay
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Sean Platt's going to do. I thought he was going
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: to play two games ago. I thought he was going
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: to play last game. He's probable again. So we'll see.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: But that was, I'm out of breath. That was a
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: lot of talk about Oregon Illinois for a game that
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I really don't know how much I'm actually going to play.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's kind of important to talk about
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: because there's going to be some good projections in this
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: game and you're going to kind of have to think
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: think through like what, what are the range of outcomes
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: on this projection? Like, I guess like the Oregon side.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: So last week, obviously they started Brock Thomas for three
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: quarters and Ryola came in for the last two drives.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Like Oregon could not like their offense was so limited
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: with Brock Thomas. Um, I follow us. I was asleep
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: for the fourth quarter when Ryola made the comeback, which
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of grateful for, but going back and looking
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: at the play by play, um, they controlled the ball
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: ball and Nicklin dimed it down the entire field. One
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: of the big worries I have is if Oregon is
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: going to play just super slow and ball control, um,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and Illinois is unable to move the ball that could
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: really slog it down. Um, I think I'm out of Ryola.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know what this offense is going to produce.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I think, and I think he's going to actually garner
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: some ownership still this week. Um, and that's, I mean,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: assuming he's a starter, um, at running back, I'm actually
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: really starting to get sweet on deer. Um, if you
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: look at those last two drives, deer Hill was in
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: there and super involved, like passing, running everything. And I,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm biased, but I think the Huskers have
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: a really good run defense. Like Indiana couldn't do anything.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Oregon couldn't do anything. And that's like all they were
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: trying to do. They couldn't really throw a pass down
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: the field. Nebraska held their own really, you know, those
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: last drives just kept getting nickel and dimed. It looked like, um,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: And then Oregon ended up pulling out a victory, unfortunately.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: But I do like D.R. Hill quite a bit. He might,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: like if I was ranking running backs, he'd be just
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: a tier below my big three this week. And then receivers,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the only one I feel good about is DeCorey and Moore.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Like he's the only one I feel 100% sure is
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: going to have a full role. I don't know if
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: there's going to be any internal discipline with Jamari Johnson. Right.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Like I just– like what is, you know, I don't know,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: like to me, if you're coaching and this is just
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: kind of a rant, but like, you got to set
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: an example. You can't just be like, okay, these guys
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: are going to get away with this. You know, like,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: is that the, you know, do they want to be
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: like that program in the South that Lanning talks about? Like, like,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: like I don't, you know, and I know, I know
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: a speeding ticket isn't that big of a deal, but
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: if we're going to read the tea leaves, like if
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: it's a speeding ticket, why he's street racing, doing something dangerous,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: like whatever we've all spent before, you know, but I,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: And I don't know the severity of the speeding ticket.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't really look into that, but like, I don't
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: feel good about Jamar Johnson. He's going to have a
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: really good projection this week. Probably. It's might be a
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: really good fade spot. That being said, if he does like,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: if he just gets to play and doesn't have any
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: repercussions that's it's a scary fade. You know, you talk
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: about like Hampton a lot and stuff. I just, I'm
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: not really interested in this Oregon passing game and Illinois
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: has a does not have a good defense. Like it'll
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: probably be like Ryola was fine against USC. Um, but
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: it was just kind of, it's kind of a weird
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: situation there. Like, I don't, I don't know if Illinois
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: can really stop Oregon from running the ball like Nebraska could.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: So I could just see them running the ball, slogging
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: it out, trying to get a victory away from home. Um,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: which really isn't necessarily the best thing for Illinois. That
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: being said, Michael Clayton, I do have some interest in,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: he's got good guys to pair with. Um, he like,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I was looking at it as like his high school stats.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: He is a true pocket passer. Like you're wanting him
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: to sling it. And I don't, I didn't watch the
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: end of Michigan state, Illinois, you know, that whole overtime run.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: And it's not like Michigan state's defense is anything special,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: but he was able to produce and get them that victory.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know Michigan state didn't dismiss the two
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: point conversion in overtime, but still be able to get
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the touchdown and, you know, bring them hold off the
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: comeback from the Spartans. Um, I don't have any interest
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: in the running back room against Oregon. That's kind of
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: a mess. And then, yeah, I mean, Dixon's expensive, but
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: if you're looking for somebody to pair, really he's the click.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Clement's fine. Trimble's too muddled to me with Platt looming.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: And I really hope we get to see Platt this week.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: And I probably am not going to get there as
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: bad as, like, I want to. But, like, I guess
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: if there was a slate, like, I wish he had
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: played even a little bit the game before because, like,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: it's hard to find anybody below 4k that's viable. And
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: since I haven't seen him, I'm probably not going to
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: get there, but definitely have some interest when he does
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: start seeing the field as far as like, just, just
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: run me a route or two plat, like, you know,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: then I'll be, then I'll be in, but yeah, long
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: winded save long winded way of saying that this game's
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: probably not as good as it appears.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to put it in perspective, we both
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: mentioned the Illinois defense. Our grading system has their pass
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: defense at an F and their rush defense at a
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: C +. So, like, I mean, if Rayola can't do
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: it here, they need him. Like, they can't have him
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: start football games. So, yeah, it's, I don't know, both
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: of their paces are a little bit slower. So there
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: is a chance this just turns into a lower scoring game.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I think Oregon should be able to handle it, though.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Texas A & M at Alabama. Uh, I mean a
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: bad football team against a good one, right? That's, but again,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: or they could Texas A & M. I mean, Mars,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: I think Marcel Reed is not good. Um, and I
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's the offense as a whole or
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: if it's just him, but, uh, I mean, what did
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: they play the Citadel or something last week? And they
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: like a get right FCS game, but now they're traveling
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: to Tuscaloosa, Alabama coming off a tough loss, uh, Now,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: we saw this situation with Florida losing, right, and then
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: having to go to South Carolina where they promptly lost again,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: or was it? I don't remember the order. I just
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: remember saying I wouldn't want to face Florida right now,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: and then Florida lost. Now, Alabama is obviously a different team,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: and they've already lost a couple. But Marcel Reed is
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: not somebody I'm super interested in. It's still Owens in
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: the backfield for them, and I don't know. because these
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: FCS games, it's so weird to get like a feel
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: of what's going to happen because obviously third and four
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: stringers typically get more run, but also they, they start
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: to show things to the coach in those games. It's
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: almost like their chance to be like, Hey, I can,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I can hang, I can play. So KJ Edwards had
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: already been getting some time in the absence of Morrow.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: He looked good in their FCS matchup. And I mean,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: there's a chance he's RV too, but it just, All
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: that to say, I don't know that I'm going to
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: mess with this running back room. Owens is cheap. That's
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: really about the only thing he has going for him.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: And then we have a revenge game for Isaiah Horton
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: going up against his former team. And one thing I
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: will say about him is that Bama has struggled a
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: little bit against big outside receivers. Deuce Robinson had a
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: monster game against them. Even Nick Harbor had some success.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Mike Matthews for Tennessee. Well, it wasn't like earth shattering numbers.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: It was, I mean, it was a good game. And
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: they're talking about defensive grades. Alabama's past defense, we have
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: graded at a D +. Now they face different competition
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: than Texas A & M. But I'm definitely looking at
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Horton for 4,600 for a wide receiver one, especially Craver's
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: banged up. He's questionable. There's a chance he might not
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: even go. And that kind of leaves Horton as the
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: guy here. But the Alabama side does look a lot
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: more intriguing with Russell at 8K. I don't think that's,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: expensive enough for him I don't know that I'm touching
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: this running back room though they went back to Daniel
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Hill again whatever I I mean I know Kroll is
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: questionable this week but I still will contend that he's
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: the best running back in this backfield and they do
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: not feed him enough if he's been injured that's one
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: thing but if it's just to like feed Treshawn Brown
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Daniel Hill that does nothing for me and then RCW
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Ryan Coleman Williams out again so Rico Scott, another 4,600,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: play two 4,600 wide receivers from this game and move
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: on if you want to, because Rico Scott's in another
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: good spot. Marshall Pritchett got a pretty significant increase in
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: usage last week with no Coleman Williams. So at 3,400,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: that's super intriguing. And then obviously Lazier Brooks is on
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: the field all the time. So for sub six K
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: a guy who's going to be on the field in
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: this sort of game environment. I don't mind going to
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: him either, but I really like these two wide receiver ones,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I guess for sub five K. But that's, I mean,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: there's other things to like in this game.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe for you, like Texas A & M, gosh, what a,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been off more year and I think
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I'm going to stay that way. Fair. Like I would
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: have some interest in KJ Edwards. It's like, if we're,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: if he was going to be the one a maybe
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: like I, I, but yeah, I don't, yeah, just no
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: X is a name for me. I just, there's better spots.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: The Alabama side, I think you're kind of onto something
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: that like it's a get right spot for Alabama. Like
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Keelan Russell and his past catchers is where I'm really
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: interested in. The only like pause I have is maybe
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: like this offense isn't as good with Brian Coleman Williams
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: and the passing game. And yeah, like these Alabama running
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: backs love to be vultures off Keelan Russell so that's
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: like the only pause I really have there but I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: do really like that spot if I'm picking somewhere in
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: this game gosh I I really would love to take
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: a shot on a Kroll or a Brown but Daniel
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Hill is just kind of a thorn in their side
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: like like especially I think like Brown's almost been the
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: best one even though I think Kroll might be the
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: best one down the road like it's um I don't
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: know I wish that I wish there was some shots
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I could take here at the running back room, but
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: it's just too muddled up for me. Yeah, really just
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Alabama passing for me. This game is definitely down the
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: list of stuff I'm interested in this week.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and one thing I've noticed about Kroll, I need
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: to look up the stat just to make sure that
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: I am speaking accurately. He just feels like he's tough
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: to bring down. So looking– oh, man, yeah.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was just that one game too, but he
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: averaged 14 and a third yards after contact against Mississippi
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: state six, over six yards after contact on average this season. Um,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: so that, I mean, that is always going to draw
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: me to somebody watching real life football is, is when
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: they run like that. So, but I'm not the coach.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: They're going to keep rotating running backs. I'll stay away. Uh, Oklahoma, Mississippi,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Mississippi state, uh, Obviously, Camario and Fluff are going to
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: have a big impact on this game, whether they play
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: or not. The fact that Oklahoma is a three-point road favorite.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I know Oklahoma's got a good defense, but I feel
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: like this game might be a pick-em or even Mississippi
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: State favored, dare I say, if Camario goes and both
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: of those guys specific for sure. John Mateer at 6,900,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: as nice as that looks. Gosh, he's just been... He's
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: let me down multiple times this year. I know he's
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: let down Oklahoma fans. The running back room, I don't
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: know that I'll touch. I mean, Blalock is probable. Hatton's
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: probably going to get involved. Avant at 6,400. I just
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: feel like there's better spots. Although, if Taylor and Bothwell
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: are out, watching that LSU-Mississippi State game last week, for
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: some reason, the quarterback and running back being out made
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: their defense worse. I don't know how that works, but
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: it might just be the vibes on the sidelines. But
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I am still interested in these pass catchers a little bit.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Satania at 66, I think, is still fine. So much
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: usage goes his way. Rocky Beers, 4,400. You know I'm
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: in for some beers. And it's basically been those two guys.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: One thing that could throw a wrench in, even though
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Terrell Harris is still out and Elijah Thomas is questioned, well,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Parker Livingston's probable. So him coming back, we don't know
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: exactly what his role is going to be, but just
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: be prepared for that to throw a wrench in. to
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: the target share. And then on the Mississippi State side,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I don't need to really elaborate more on the two
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: main pieces that we're waiting on. I don't think I'm
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: playing Parker Puckett, for you Family Guy fans, at 8,300.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Anthony Evans, one of my favorite wide receivers in football,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: but at 7,200 with Puckett, it's tough for me to
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: get there, even with his target share. Are you, gosh,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know. This game just feels gross, but some
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: of these prices, especially on the Oklahoma side are at
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: least giving me like a considerable thought to play them.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. This game's I don't, I mean, yeah, I miss,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I guess Mississippi state side. I'm just completely out. Like
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Evans is too expensive. Like I will say, I'm going
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: to look at like his reception prop and see what
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: it is after this. Like that's, that's like once if
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: you really wanted to have some action on the Bulldogs
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: this week, maybe a reception prop for Anthony Evans. Um,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: but it's 7,200. I just don't think he's going to
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: pay off that price. Um, I mean, yeah, I guess
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: we'll have to see the injury report. I don't like
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: if Kamari Taylor is like, Oh, a hundred percent. It's
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: really hard not to think about him, no ownership, but
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to get that. I think
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: we're going to have Billy Puckett again. Um, Yeah, so
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: this Oklahoma side really loves Satagna, really love Beers. Like,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: more so Satagna. I don't know. I think he's going
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: to probably garner a lot of ownership. Like, I kept
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: landing on him in builds. That's kind of the last guy,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: and it just kept landing there. That being said, like,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think– I just saw that comment about the
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: low scoring. One thing, I think Satagna and Beers can
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: get there on volume. even if it's not like the touchdowns.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: And hopefully maybe they each get one like they did
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: last week. Mateer at 6,900. I'm kind of curious, like,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: cause these guys are going to pull so much ownership.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel like Mateer is going to get
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: a little over owned. He's right at that pricing of
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the 69, not 7,000. I don't know if I'm going
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: to be in on it. He's just been so dang bad.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: But quarterback kind of sucks this week. Like it's, I mean,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: there's plays, but there isn't any, like, there's like one
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: lock and load. And then it's really kind of a
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: crapshoot from there. I feel like, but yeah, this, I
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: don't really have a matchup edge in this game other than, yeah.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's a stoppable force for
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: some movable object. I mean, I don't know. It's just,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: it's yeah. I love the Oklahoma pass catchers and I'm
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: probably just going to wrap it up there. Cause it's like,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: don't really want to waste my time trying to decipher
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: who's going to go off in a game like this.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: The answer is probably no one, but yeah, I don't know.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Just these two guys for me. Yeah.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's because of usage or
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: if it's because they both wear red jerseys and are
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: the third, but I just view Satania and Evans as
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: very similar players. One of them has their starting quarterback
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: and a $ 600 cheaper. Like that. So I'm just that
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: it's black and white a little bit more. Uh, Tennessee
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: at South Carolina, let down spot for Tennessee. Of course,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: after the big win last week, a trap game, whatever
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: you want to call it. And South Carolina's favored. It's
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: almost like the books view it the same way. George
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: McIntyre going to get the start again. Didn't really wow
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: you with his stats last week, but did like protected
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: the ball well enough to win the game. Didn't more
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: of a, didn't make mistakes than won the game for
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Tennessee because I think Deshaun Bishop probably won the game
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: in terms of offensive output. His worst game of the
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: last three is 19 for 138 and a score. So
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: of his last three games, that's his worst stat line,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: worst stat line. And now South Carolina is a little
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: bit more of a pass funnel than they give it
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: up to the run, but I really don't care with Bishop.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: DeJuan Morris still eats in some. Javon Gordon was back
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: but only played six snaps last week. In the wide
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: receiver room, Mike Matthews is still target wide receiver number one.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: I do like him regardless of who's playing quarterback. Dasom
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Brom has seen a decent target share as well. Braylon
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Staley is still out there on the field. And I
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: know you brought it up several times throughout the year
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: that you like slot receivers against South Carolina. So I'll
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: let you elaborate on that some a little bit more.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: But to the South Carolina side, Lenore Sellers threw for
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: four touchdowns last time South Carolina took the field, which
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: that's I mean, it's like Michael Hawkins throwing for 464.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: It's in that same vein. Tennessee kind of shut down
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Keelan Russell in terms of both through the air and
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: on the ground. Now, Byron Brown did run for more
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: than 100 yards against Tennessee. Sellers probably built a little
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: bit more like Brown, obviously, but I don't mind 7,700
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: even in this matchup. I think if South Carolina is
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: going to win, he's going to be a big part
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: of it. Matt Fuller's price is up there. Not that
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Tennessee's faced the cream of the crop, but a tougher
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: run defense. And Jabri Coleman also got a season high
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: in snaps in the Florida game. So a little bit
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: of pause with the price plus the guys behind him.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: And then Mazeo Bennett has 15 catches on 17 targets
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: over the last two games. It just hasn't turned into
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: a whole lot, especially in the last game. Nick Harbor,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's boom or bust. Play at your own risk.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: One game he'll have two for 26. The next game
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: he'll have a ginormous monster game. But I'll just leave
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: you with the fact that he's got five drops on
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: the season and still only a 46% catch rate. So
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: just he's a little bit more expensive than he has been, too,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: at 4,500. So play at your own risk. You know
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: what you're getting into, especially when DJ Black and Donovan
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Murph saw increased usage as well. I really like Sellers
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: is the one who's catching my eye the most. I
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: personally don't know if I'm stacking him. I know your
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: like GPP builds are going to be a little bit different,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: but it's, I like more on the underdog side, I
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: think than I do on the South Carolina side. Yeah.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess clearly the first thing you look
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: at in this game is you see the South Carolina's favored.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: It really reminds me of like the Florida Ole Miss game,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: like just as far as the spread goes, but I
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: really don't, I still think Tennessee wins this game. And
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: obviously any better is going to look at that and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: be like, the guys in the desert are trying to
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: tell us something here. But from a DFS perspective, South Carolina,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: it's Sellers, and that's really it for me. I might
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: sprinkle these pass catchers in. And you're right. The only
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: way they, I think, win this game is if Sellers
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: has a good game. And I guess if that's what
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Vegas is trying to tell us, South Carolina is going
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: to win, then I probably want some Sellers. But I
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: really don't feel good about it against this Tennessee matchup.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: And I'm kind of noticing a trend today that like
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of plays that are good plays on this site.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't really like them that much.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: You know, like it's, it's, it's going to be interesting,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: but yes, like a, a seller's Bishop stack. That's like super, like,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're probably, they're expensive, but they're, that's super
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: affordable relative to some other places you can stack. Yeah.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Bishop is one of those three running backs that are
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: in a elite tier here. I, Matchup, funnel, whatever aside,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: like Bishop, the volume he's getting, the quarterback situation for
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Tennessee on the road. And I think, you know, this
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: isn't like your Hindenhookers Tennessee anymore by any means. Their
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: identity has definitely changed over the years. And they're more
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: of a run the ball and play really good defense. And,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's got it done for them last week.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, they allowed 24 points to Georgia Tech, 20
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: to Texas. Other than that, they haven't allowed a team
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: to get to 20 points. And the Georgia Tech one
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: was– a little more like garbage time.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: You could just say that Georgia Tech's a better football
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: team than Texas.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Georgia Tech might have a better offense than Texas, which
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: is like insane to even have that debate when you
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: consider the amount of talent Texas has, but gosh, it's yeah. I,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I love Daystone Bishop. So yeah, you alluded
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: to the slot matchups. And I mean, the last time
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: that I was going to attack that Vernell Brown was
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: out for Florida and Stockton was kind of the slot guy.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: And he ended up having a huge game and he
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: hadn't done crap all year. Staley hasn't done crap all year,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: but we've seen the type of ceiling he's had like
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: last year. Also different quarterback, different, you know, but I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: probably had a little bit of a more explosive offense,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: especially more explosive passing game last year. But if he's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: definitely a game stack possibility, like I don't mind like Sellers, Bishop,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Staley stack. Like, that's pretty– I mean, if you think
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: this game kind of pops off, it's a tight enough
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: spread that it could. But real life, I think Tennessee
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: is just too good on defense for South Carolina to
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: beat them. I mean, so what's like South– South Carolina
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: have like a third down thing. Like Mississippi State, it's
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: the Cowbells. Last week, Tennessee was that, we said I
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: was on a rocky top. Every third down. And it
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't even that. It was like the spooky– You know,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard that soundbite or whatever,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: but every third down, it was driving me nuts by
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. But yeah, I don't know if South
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Carolina has one of those, but I'll be excited to
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: not have to deal with that this week in this
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: case in Columbia.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, believe it or not, when I have South Carolina
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: games on, I usually don't have the audio on. I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: have a YouTube TV quad box, so I'm not typically
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: like South Carolina is rarely my first choice.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: And I was just watching like I had, and I
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: do the quad box too, but that game was like
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: just a tight game. And so I had the audio
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: on it and noticed it repeatedly. I guess I could
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: have just done that and solve myself or solve my problem.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I'll do a different game.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaking of what better day for a quad box
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: than last week, not just on the green slate, but
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: in the night game, when you had Florida state, Miami,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: and you had Houston, Oklahoma state, and you have BYU
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: and Notre Dame, heck, Even the UTSA Navy ending was exciting.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: What a great week of college football. I don't want
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: to reminisce too much because looking back doesn't help us
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: attack this slate. But, gosh, still a good week. Still
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: a good week for college football. Don't get me wrong.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: All right. Speaking of guys that you might want to
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: play but you don't really like, this is kind of
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: a game like that overall. BYU.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: BYU.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Probably like in the ultimate hangover, let down trap game slot,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: a spot, a big and controversial win that everybody keeps
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: talking about against Notre Dame last week. Now traveling two
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: time zones over for a team that we seem to
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: see every single week on DraftKings and a team that
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: has been known to play in a couple of slog
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: fests throughout the season. Oklahoma State was one game that
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: wasn't a slogfest, but that, I mean, Oklahoma State controlled
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: the pace in that game against UCF. So this is
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: one of those games that just feels yucky in terms
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: of real life and DFS. Bear Bachmeier at 8,200. For him,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: it's probably too cheap. He's averaging well over 3X this
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: price in fantasy points. Coming off two straight spike games
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: at nearly 40. If you take out the weird Colorado
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: State game, he's averaging over 30 points a game. But
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: I still don't feel 100% comfortable here. I'm not saying
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: to fade. It doesn't feel great. The running back room,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: LJ Martin, still out. No one's really emerged. Thought it
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: was going to be Tonga. Last week it was Rex.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: But now one thing to consider, too, is Sione Mo
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: is off the report. He was cleared to play last week.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: We could see him get his first action in a
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: long time here. And then pass catchers. It's really Glasgow.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, Kyler Casper is actually the target leader on
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: this team and he has 20 targets over the last game.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: But last week was the first time since week one
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: that he caught more than 50 percent of his targets.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: So that's why you go to Glasgow. He catches the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: ball when it's thrown to him. He gets involved in
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: the run game. One of those guys that that they
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: just want to get the ball in his hands. I mean,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: you can still look at Phillips and Lions, too, that
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: are they're involved enough. But it's really Glasgow for me.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: On the UCF side, Keewon Jenkins kind of balled out
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: against Oklahoma State. But again, that was an increased pace.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: And I mean, there's just that leads to better potential
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: for fantasy stats. Opportunity leads to points or increases the
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: opportunity on the field, increases the opportunity for points, whatever.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Duke Watson, the more plays you run, the more chances
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: you have score points. Duke Watson is clearly the alpha back.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: 21 carries against Oklahoma State, but looking at BYU, Notre
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Dame only ran for 115 yards as a team. One
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: thing you can look at is that one guy, Nolan James,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: was 77 of it, but I still don't know that
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: I love it, even though Swint's out. 6K is just
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: a weird spot. And then the wide receiver room, if
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: you're looking at attacking BYU, it's kind of been from
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: the slot. I mean, Great House, Gio Richardson, Kari Ashley
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: played from the slot as a tight end. That would
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: technically favor Rick Darius Farmer. That just tells you everything
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: you need to know about how I feel about this game.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at Rick Darius Farmer as having an advantage.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know that I want to go there. Obviously,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Josh Derry is wide receiver one, and he's put up
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: some big numbers. Caleb Pining has been on the field
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: a lot more, 12 catches on 13 targets the last
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: couple of games. And I just don't know if Dylan
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Wade is 100%, because it's been Pining at the tight
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: end position getting the production. But That's a lot of
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: talk about this game, for one. Again, that just does
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: not work for me.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I kind of like– obviously the
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: total's not there, but I kind of like– I guess
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: I'll start with the UCF side. Crazy UCF's on the
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: main slate yet again. But I do really like Derry
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: and Watson as runbacks. I'm probably going to– well, Derry,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: he had 13 targets last week. I probably will play
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: him as a one-off. Watson, I'll definitely play with Bayer.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: But I actually really like, even though BYU's in a
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: letdown spot and UCF plays sloggier games, they've definitely been
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: susceptible to some 300-yard passing performances. Not that BYU necessarily
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: wants to pass the ball. Wiegman had three rushing touchdowns
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: against them. I think Baer is a really, really solid
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: play quarterback. And I really, really like Glasker this week.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: He's sandwiched right between those TCU guys. He shouldn't carry
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: much ownership. And I just... it gives me the vibes
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: of like when you'd get Parker Kingston, he was this
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: price last year and no ownership and would just scorch
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: in the afternoon. I have quite a bit of interest
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: in like the bear and the Glasgow, I think the
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: running backs I'm off of. But yeah, it's, I guess
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: I wish that there was a higher total, but I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: still think I'm going to dig into it. Cause like,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: as I'm talking, I really don't like the chalk spots.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I think there's going to get some ownership, but, But
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: nothing else in this game. I'm curious where Derry comes in.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: I haven't even really looked into him much. At $ 4, 700,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: with what he's been doing, he should pull some ownership.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: But he shouldn't pull much. He's right kind of there.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: He's $ 200 lower than Ed Small. That's going to be–
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to be small over
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: dairy but there's more in this game i think than
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: the total implies.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah and tough to say exactly what they're going to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: come in but you got to imagine dairy is going
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: to be a third of the ownership of those guys
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: or less right like so you're going to get some
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: leverage on those tcu guys and this is this is
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: one of the reasons like in years past, I've done
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of solo shows. This is a reason I
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: like having two to three person shows. It's just because
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: I don't really like this game, but listening to you
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: talk about it, like, you know, and just thinking overall
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: as a slate, how many guys we've said, yeah, he's fine. Yeah.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: This guy's fine. I mean, what's the difference in this game?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: These guys are fine. And, And BYU very well could
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: come in and blow the doors off of UCF. They're
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: the number two team in the country. They haven't lost yet.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: There's no reason they can't do that. Just the narrative.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: You know, the hangover is going to be talked about.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: And it's just– yeah.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: That's just– yeah. I mean, just a couple quick things
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: to add. Like, this game and the game before, it's
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: insane to see top ten ranked teams go on the road. Like,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: BYU's number two in the country is a seven-and-a-half point
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: favorite on the road at unranked UCF. tennessee's an underdog
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: on i don't think south carolina's ranked like it's just
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: wild how tight college football is this year compared to
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: years previous like but and then another thing with this
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: byucf game i noticed there's some pretty strong wins like
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: on kevin roth's my sports weather it does say 20
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: to 30 mile an hours um it's always so weird
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: because like i sometimes i feel like the commentators like
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: they only bring it up and if like there's the
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: passing game isn't good if it's fine i don't know
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: how much it really affects but it is something to
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: look at, which I don't think that affects Glasgow. Like
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: he's a little bit of a lower a dot guy.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: It feels like, like a little more of a gadget type.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: You might actually get some carries too, but yeah, that's
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: all I wanted to add real quick.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's actually a good transition into the next game.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: A low scoring, boring, sloggy game that could be windy
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: describes Iowa, Minnesota battle for Floyd or Rosedale, which for
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: those of you who are unaware as a pig, these
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: teams play every single year. Iowa has won 20 of
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: the 25 matchups since 2000. One of those gopher victories
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: needed an illegal fair catch and Deacon Hill starting at quarterback.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: So I don't even know if you count that game
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: when you're looking at the overall record. But anyway, Iowa,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Jeremy Heklinski expected to start. I said in our Discord
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: earlier this week that I like Iowa a lot more
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: if Heklinski starts. I think he can open this offense
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: up a little bit more now. Does that mean he's
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: necessarily going to be the one like at 6,500? I
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: still think you don't necessarily like play him, but I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: like this offense overall with Hecklinski at the Helmski. One
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: guy I like is Kamari Moulton. He has in his
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: last game, he had 208 yards and two touchdowns, which
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: was against Washington, which say what you want about Washington,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: but they're not just a lay down defense. I think
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: they're decent. And we, We saw that against Purdue, that
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: they're not just going to lay down and let teams
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: score all over them. But on top of that, Iowa
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: is coming off of a bye week, so Moulton has
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: some rest. I know both of these teams had a
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: bye last week, but, you know, I'm getting flashbacks to
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: two years ago when Caleb Johnson ran for more than
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: 200 yards on Minnesota. And I think Moulton sets up
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: in a similar spot here. Same three pass catchers we
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: talk about with Iowa every single week, Tony Diaz, Reese
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Van Der Zee, DJ Bonamy. but Van Der Zee is
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: the one that's had a little bit more steady increased usage.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: Basically ever since he's been in the national spotlight, catching
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: that game winning touchdown against Michigan, his usage has been
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: up there. DJ Vanami only ran seven routes against Washington,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: but caught both of his targets for touchdowns, which was
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: super helpful. And again, with a bye week, I expect
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: these guys to be fully healthy now. There's a couple
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: of them that have been on the report week in,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: week out. But they should be good to go. I
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised to see Evan James have a random
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: spike game too, just because when he does get on
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: the field, he plays from the slot. And that's where
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: I want to attack Minnesota. On the Minnesota side, Drake Lindsey, 6,300,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: has made some very good throws this year. So many
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: plays that he's just a few inches away from being elite.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: But he's also made some very dumb throws and throws
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: bad interceptions from time to time. And even though he's cheap,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: and I think you can throw in Iowa a little bit,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Minnesota has this incessant need to run the ball no
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: matter what the game situation is. Third quarter down by
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: 17 to Purdue, run on first down, run on second down,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: run on third down, three and out. And I don't
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: know why, but that's just something we've grown accustomed to
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: in Minnesota. Personal bias aside, that's not good for DFS
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks when that's your approach to real life football. And
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of Darius Taylor. He's
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: involved in the pass game, so that's why I think
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: he's still RB1 in terms of DFS. But man, if
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't think that TJ Thomas could easily outscore him,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: he's been the much better running back all season long.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: And you get a significant savings. I don't know if
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: you're going to this team anyway. And then in the
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: pass catching room, Noah Jennings had three catches for 15
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: yards against Purdue, but again, was just a few inches
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: away from six catches for 100 plus and a touchdown.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: So like the box score doesn't tell you everything. Javon
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Tracy and Jalen Smith are the other guys that are
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: out there Tracy with the shorter a dot maybe but
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Pierce Walsh is out which are not out he's questionable
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: which could lead to more for Roman Voss who was
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Minnesota's top ranked football recruit in this class so this
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: this little red thing for those of you watching should
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: be on Pierce Walsh not Roman Voss but I would
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: not be surprised to see Roman Voss get more time
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: on the field. Even in Mimprice, not recommending playing him,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: but that's more of an awareness. Hey, when you see
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Roman Voss has two catches for 30 yards and a touchdown,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: it's because Walsh is out and this is his opportunity.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: But I have maroon colored glasses on and still want
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: to take Iowa minus seven and a half in this game.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: So that tells you everything in terms of my thoughts. Kenny,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: are you touching this game for DFS? And why is
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: it the Iowa side?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. As crazy as it sounds to say
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: out loud, I love Iowa this week. Like, Maltunes, that
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: third running back that I was talking about, is kind
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: of the three guys I think are separating themselves from
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: me on this slate. I think the volume is going
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: to be there. I think the efficiency is going to
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: be there. I'm not scared of Minnesota's defense. Like, I
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: think they're kind of below average from what they have been. Mm-hmm. Sorry. Sorry.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Just plug your ears.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: I agree with everything you're saying.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: And so, like, I really love Maltune that week. So
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: where I– I wish, like, Linsky was 5,500 instead of 6,500
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: because I would have a ton of interest in him.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: I think he's got really good pairing options in Diaz,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Van Der Zee, and Bonamy. Like, I almost think that, like,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Maltune and one of these past catchers, like, I kind
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: of like– it's like not using heck Linsky and hoping
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: that the bottom, he catches the two touchdowns or Banner
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Z or D as any of them. I'd probably prefer
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: the bottom two just because of prices, but I'm going
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: to have a lot of exposure to Iowa as gross
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: as that sounds. And because of that, I really wanted
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: to look into Minnesota and just kind of like how
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: I would attack Iowa or what's going to get there
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: for fantasy goodness. I was susceptible, like through the air,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: like against Washington, Elijah Brown came in and I was
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: kicking the shit out of Washington. Don't get me wrong.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: but he came in through for 250 yards and three
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: touchdowns in the second half. Jeremiah Smith did his thing
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: against Iowa. Both Michigan receivers with Bryce Underwood as their
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: quarterback went over 100 yards. I'd like to see Jennings
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: and Tracy like $ 1, 000 cheaper, but I'm going to take
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: some shots on like some minis with like a Maltune
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: and a Minnesota wide receiver. I'm going to force them
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: to be correlated with the Hawkeye. So, I mean, yeah,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: Like this game, I mean, Maltino pulled some ownership, but
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody else is going to pull anything.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: And I might even have Jeremy Heklinski in my pool
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: this week. It's like a Heklinski, Maltino, and a Van
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Der Zee or Vaughn. I think Iowa's offense is good.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: They scored 14 against Ohio State, and Heklinski had to
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: come in and clean up kind of in garbage time
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: there and look good. Like he was fine last week.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: He had two, a two and three, but he didn't
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: have a need to throw. Not that he's going to
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: here necessarily, but I think it's super sneaky. And like
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: one of the rare opportunities over the years that we
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: do get to like play Iowa guys with confidence and
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: don't like, we actually have to talk about it now.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: So yeah, more interest than I thought I would have
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: for an Iowa Minnesota game for the, for the whatever trophy,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: the hog trophy.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: It's Floyd of Rosedale. It started off as a real pig.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: But now it's just a pig trophy. Not real pigs
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: being exchanged anymore.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: They just take the State Fair Grand Champion Barrow.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: And that's all they would get. Speaking of Minnesota over
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Iowa State Fair 10 out of 10 times. So we're
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: going to hold on to that as long as Iowa
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: keeps whooping our butt at football. I will say, I'll
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: give Iowa props. Their State Fair has improved over the years.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: I went and saw Train there like 15 years ago. Sucked.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, the venue, the band was fine. Like the
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: concert was okay. All right. Last game on the slate,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: Michigan State at UCLA, Michigan State, a big underdog for
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: good reason. I mean, there's not a lot to talk
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: about with Michigan State other than the injury situation because
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Alessio Milivojevic is questionable after his best statistical game of
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: the season. They almost beat Northwestern, which I mean, I
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: thought Northwestern was pretty good. So that might be something
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: for Michigan. That might be Michigan State's shining moment of
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: the season. But that would mean that we'd have Cade Kaufman,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: who is a four-star true freshman, likely the QB in weighting.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: And honestly, Emilia Vojevic might not even be hurt. This
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: might just be a, let's see what we got in
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: this kid, give him some confidence. I don't know that
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: UCLA on the road is the right game to test
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: that out, but I don't think it's going to get
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: worse for Michigan State in this spot. Another guy, Jazian Patterson,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: also questionable. Like at quarterback, another Cam, Cam Edwards. Cam
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: Fancher's out. That's why Kauffman would get the start. But
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Cam Edwards is also out. At least Marvis Parrish, Brandon Tullis,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: and maybe Zion Gist or Gist. I mean, you get
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: the gist of what I'm saying. There's not a lot
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: to love on this Michigan State side. The wide receivers,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, you could mix and match these top four guys. Savory, McCray, Moore, Bullard.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: They essentially have been getting equal opportunity, equal target share.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: If you get the one that scores a touchdown, maybe
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: you're doing all right. I just don't know that I'm
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: going to go there here. But if you get a
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: guy that gets two touchdowns, you're going to get him
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: at virtually no ownership. On the UCLA side, Ty Dieffenbach
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: didn't get a touchdown, but did go for 264 yards.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: And one of those guys, like if you need a
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: cheap quarterback in the 5Ks, this might be your first
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: look just because of the matchup. The thing that might
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: talk me off of him is because I think Wayne
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: Knight could run for 10 yards a carry the entire
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: game on this Michigan State defense. He only averages 14
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: carries a game, but he's averaging seven yards a carry
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: on those carries, is involved in the pass game enough.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Woods and Thomas are going to eat in quite a bit,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: but so far this season, it hasn't been enough. Knight's
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: one of those guys where you look at his usage
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: and you're like, how is this guy 8'6? It's like, oh,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: because he runs for 25 yards every other time he
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: touches the ball. And then If we're talking wide receivers
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: in Diefenbach's first start, it was actually Jalen St. Paul
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: and Aiden Mizell getting the heavier target share. JSP saw
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: a season high in routes run at 16. Mizell, his
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: season high was 15. I mean, Samaj Morgan is still
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: probably wide receiver one. Landon Ellis is probably fine. Brian
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: Rowe is on the field enough, but I'd have to
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: look back. I think I'd I've had to look back
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: at this guy like multiple times. Cause I forget to
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: take notes on him, which if I'm not taking notes
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: on a guy and just outright say, I don't like him,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: there's definitely a reason, but it's probably a significant enough
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  Speaker 2: reason that I didn't even want to waste the energy. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's because he's got a 50% catch rate and was
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  Speaker 2: targeted two times against Wisconsin. One catch on four targets
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  Speaker 2: against Oregon, one catch on two targets against Maryland. It's
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  Speaker 2: just been a rough stretch for him. And yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: just seems like they're working in these other guys a
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  Speaker 2: lot more. Maybe that's all to say, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: that I'm touching this, but if, if we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get six targets on 16 routes for Jalen St. Paul
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  Speaker 2: at three K against Michigan state, maybe he's your min
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  Speaker 2: price dart that opens up a lot more with the
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  Speaker 2: rest of your lineup. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What a, what a gross game. This one, I actually don't,
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  Speaker 1: don't like as compared to the previous two, the Michigan
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  Speaker 1: state side, I just– there's just nothing here for me. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: if it was an East Lansing, like Michigan State has
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  Speaker 1: been– like they've been coming– like they could have beaten
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Northwestern last week, came back against Illinois. Like the team's
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: not quitting. I might actually like them with the points
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  Speaker 1: if they're at home, but this just feels like a
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: spot where UCLA just kind of controls the game. Gosh,
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  Speaker 1: like Diffenbach had good enough numbers last week. He just
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: didn't have any touchdowns. Um, the issue is, is like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how to pick a guy to pair
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  Speaker 1: with him because like you talked about, like, like Samaj
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: Morgan had five for 84 last week. Like that's a
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: usable stat line if he scores a touchdown here, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Devin Bach might just be like a
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  Speaker 1: guy you play by himself and hope that he throws
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  Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns. Cause it's hard to predict where it's.
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  Speaker 2: Going to be at.
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  Speaker 1: Um, I hadn't really fully looked into that spot, but
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: he does, I do have some interest in him kind
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: of listening to you talk about him. Um, Wayne Knight's
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: just too damn expensive. Like, okay, if it's a close game,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: like last week they were ahead, but it was somewhat
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: like they're controlling the ball, but they weren't necessarily pulling away.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, 13 for 23 is never going to get
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: you there at 8,600. I don't care how many like
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: touchdowns you score. And like if UCLA is pulling away
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: and it's a blowout, then the Woods, Thomas are going
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: to get involved. That being said, maybe a reason they're
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: blowing them out is because Wayne Knight's having such a
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: good game, but it's just too muddled for me. And
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  Speaker 1: I just like, I just can't justify paying 8,600 for
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: Wayne Knight when I can play Bishop or Williams cheaper
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: that are in way better spots to me. So really
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: this game I'm out on as a whole, but going
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: to revisit the UCLA passing game. I don't, God, that's
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: just gross. Nothing feels really good here. No.
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  Speaker 2: And it's, you see, like, Like I said, this is
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: one of those receiver and cores that I would look
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  Speaker 2: at if I really love a lineup and need a 3,200
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: or less wide receiver. That's one of the spots I
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: might go to. But that's going to do it, I mean,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: for the Saturday main slate. Do you have any thoughts
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: on Friday? We have this posted here. I'll actually refresh
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: the page. I believe we have the pretty version out.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: Get a little sneak peek at what it looks like
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  Speaker 2: because we show projection, ownership, optimal rate leverage, and how
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: many targets, rushes, team grades, pace, a lot of different
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: things that are very helpful when you're building your lineups.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Big injury news we're watching for Friday, Pop Watson, T.Y. Harding,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: which is weird to say that we're watching UMass so closely.
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  Speaker 2: I did find out though, and I'd slash remember, the
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: Mac posts availability reports regardless of if it's a conference
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  Speaker 2: game or not. So we are going to learn if
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: these guys are questionable, or in or out on the
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: injury report and it's an early game. So that's nice too. Uh,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: but any overall thoughts I wish, I mean, the quarterbacks
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: in this five game Friday slate are like leaps and
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: bounds better than the quarterbacks on Saturday. It seems like.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's, it's kind of a weird slate where we've
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: got two service academies. So like, it just throws like
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: a whole team's worth of wide receivers out of the pool.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Like the wide receivers really kind of suck tonight. Um,
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of where I'm taking shots at. I
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: don't mind really, really punting that spot. I guess where
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: I kind of started my lineup tonight was using the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: Army quarterback and then trying to figure out some Tulsa
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: pieces to build around it. I kind of like Traquan
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: Jones for Tulsa. I don't know how heavy I'm going
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: to be on him. But I think that's kind of
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: an interesting, he's been super efficient and Alston isn't getting
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: all that much volume for his price. I kind of
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: like the ownership discount and savings you get with Jones tonight.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of a sneaky one I have.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: So just showing off the stone 2.0, it was Trey Kwan, Joe,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: and you said, right?
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So if you want to start there, you can start there.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: Lock these guys in. That's where I want to start.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: then let our projections do the rest. Oh, I really
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: like that lineup. I'm going to go save it. And
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: now it's a save lineup over here. And I mean,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Osborne for UConn, Shepard for Duke, Gauss for NC State
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  Speaker 2: with no Duke Scott. Going to look really good tonight.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just a fun way to show off.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that lineup actually is like really, like you have
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: a nice pairing with the UConn. You got two mini
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: stacks in there. Then you have the onslaught of the
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: NC State against Stanford Defense. That's a pretty solid lineup.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, I like it for single entry
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: because in single entry, I'm really only looking for one
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: leverage spot. And 11% is low enough owned is what
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: we have him projected at. He could come in even
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: lower than that because he's an RB2. Speaking of, though,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: these midweek slates, like RB4 might score two touchdowns tonight.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: Just be prepared for that. That's always. And with Service
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: Academy's RB7 might score a touchdown. That's one thing you've
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: got to prepare yourself for. But that's going to wrap
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: it up. Any other thoughts on Saturday before we get
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: out of here, Kenny?
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: No, not a lot. It just seems like it's going
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: to be a good GPP slate for me. Like PCU
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: I feel super comfortable with. Like I don't mind eating
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: that chalk. And then beyond that, I really don't feel
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: great about any, any, anything. Yeah.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Like we, we've said multiple times, a lot
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: different than last week, but I mean, it's still, it's
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: still fun to play DFS and put the puzzle together.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: And that leads into the big guys rule. Number one,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: how we end every show rule. Number one, college football
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: is fun. Enjoy building the lineups. Enjoy putting that puzzle together.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: Enjoy sweating. As you watch these college football games on TV,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: just be thankful that we have the opportunity to do that. And,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: The most important thing, never take any of these days
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: for granted. We never know which one's going to be
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: our last. But that's going to wrap it up for
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: College Football Ship It Nation Week 8's breakdown. For my
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: man Kenny, I'm Dalla Bill. Let's go out and ship
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: one for the big guy.