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Canadian Wildfire Conspiracies · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show, the world's most trusted conspiracy
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Speaker 1: dairy podcast, with your hosts Adam Todd Brown and Olivia Hidary.
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm Adam Todd Brown.
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Speaker 3: Hey, oh, and I'm Olivia Hidar.
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Speaker 2: Hi. Hello a god, Olivia. How's it going? That makes
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Speaker 2: us your host? I always forget to say that part.
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Speaker 2: We are your hosts of this part.
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Speaker 3: Are your hosts. It's going well right now. The West
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Speaker 3: Coast isn't on fire, so we've got that that's kind
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Speaker 3: of an unusual occurrence.
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Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, it's just that, well, the East Coast
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Speaker 2: isn't on fire.
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Speaker 3: No, just reaping the benefits of being on fire.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're getting the kind of treatment you get if
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Speaker 2: you live too close to the mountains in burbank where
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Speaker 2: your shit's not on fire, but it's very dangerous to
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Speaker 2: go outside from an air quality standpoint, nasty shit. And
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Speaker 2: that makes for a great segue into what we're talking
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Speaker 2: about this week, which is that exact thing, the wildfires
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Speaker 2: that are plaguing Canada right now and causing all sorts
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Speaker 2: of air quality issues and just quality of life issues
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Speaker 2: all over the East coast, mostly like the northeast New York,
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Speaker 2: Massachusetts DC areas like that. Yep, pictures are crazy.
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Speaker 3: They're very crazy. It's an awful thing. It's terrible.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know exactly when this episode's going up,
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Speaker 2: but I feel like this is still going to be
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Speaker 2: going on by the time this episode goes up, probably
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Speaker 2: because it's not like there's just one fire. Right. As
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Speaker 2: of June ninth, there were four hundred and seventeen active
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Speaker 2: fires in Canada, spread all across the country both coasts.
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Speaker 2: Of those, two hundred and eighteen were labeled as out
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Speaker 2: of control, while just one hundred and eight were marked
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Speaker 2: as under control. It's like the Australia of North America.
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Speaker 3: It is. It feels like we're still missing a few
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Speaker 3: out of those numbers. What's in between out of control
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Speaker 3: and under control?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. I wonder if there's anything,
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Speaker 2: because yeah, if we're talking four hundred and seventeen active, right,
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Speaker 2: two eighteen plus one oh eight doesn't even add.
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Speaker 3: Up, No, not close.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, there's got to be like a gray area
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Speaker 2: where the community's just fine with the fire.
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Speaker 3: Right, it's the normal, it's the goldilocks. Yes, of wildfires
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Speaker 3: or you know, it's just another thing the government's keeping
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Speaker 3: from us.
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Speaker 2: Man. Oh boy, are there some conspiracies around this shit?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: And that surprisingly, that's what we're talking about, is the
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Speaker 2: myriad conspiracies around this There's so many. Yeah, with almost
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Speaker 2: any news story these days, conspiracy theories pop up around it, right.
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Speaker 3: I think that's the thing is they've just gotten a
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Speaker 3: lot of practice.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true with this story though. There's so many theories. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's insane. And the fires that are causing all the
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Speaker 2: problems on the East Coast are mostly happening in the
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Speaker 2: like Ontario area, like southeast Quebec, and they've had really
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Speaker 2: harsh weather that's made it more difficult to control these fires.
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Speaker 2: And the fire season in Canada lasts from May through
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Speaker 2: October geez, and the forecast is that the fires will
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Speaker 2: be especially bad that whole time, So people in New
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Speaker 2: York just aren't going to be able to breathe for
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Speaker 2: a while, which yah hucks.
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Speaker 3: But it's unfortunate. It's a nightmare scenario. It's the type
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Speaker 3: of thing that people have been talking about for decades
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Speaker 3: with regards to the climate.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, all of this led to New York City
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Speaker 2: briefly earning the title of worst air quality of any
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Speaker 2: major city. And that's not worst in the United States, right,
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Speaker 2: it's worst in the world. Jeez, So fucking Beijing had
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Speaker 2: at her air quality than New York States. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: Delia better air quality.
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Speaker 3: It's taken all of Los Angeles's self control not to
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Speaker 3: rub this in their face. Well, you know, but the
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Speaker 3: West Coast East Coast feud is, it's feudile right now.
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Speaker 3: We're all in this together.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the East Coast is finally finding out what our
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Speaker 2: winters are like. God, yeah, we don't get snow. We
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Speaker 2: get fire. It's dry, and we get fire in the winter.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, we have inclement weather in California. It's very
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Speaker 2: dangerous when the state bursts into flames exactly. Or we
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Speaker 2: had the exact opposite this winter when it rained for
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Speaker 2: about eighty five days in.
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Speaker 3: A row, forty days and forty nights.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that. That's not what I moved
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Speaker 2: to California for. I get we needed the rain.
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Speaker 3: Well, the big problem is just that the city is
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Speaker 3: clearly built on quicksand, and any amount of rainfall just
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Speaker 3: washes whole streets away and that's the way bigger problem
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Speaker 3: than just the fact that it's raining.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do not have the infrastructure for a solid
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Speaker 2: month of rain.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're built in a goddamn desert. It's just not
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Speaker 3: the room for it.
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Speaker 2: So let's dive into some conspiracy theories. Okay, okay, Rolling Stone,
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Speaker 2: who still to this day does some pretty good political reporting. Yeah, totally.
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Speaker 2: They put up an article that was just about the
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Speaker 2: various conspiracy theories. So a lot of this episode we're
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Speaker 2: going to go through the various theories they rounded up
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Speaker 2: out there on the internet, and then we'll, you know,
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Speaker 2: obviously at our own commentary, but at the end we'll
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Speaker 2: talk about a few more that they didn't get to. Oh.
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Speaker 2: I should also point out the Rolling Stone article is
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Speaker 2: from two writers, Tim Dickinson and Miles Clee. I don't
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Speaker 2: want to not give them credit as I go through
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Speaker 2: their shit, which I know that is a podcast thing,
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Speaker 2: not giving credit. When I worked at Cracked, it would
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Speaker 2: happen all the time. But with radio shows, Oh, they
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Speaker 2: would read people's articles in their entirety, like for Batam,
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Speaker 2: and not give credit, and then when you would reach
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Speaker 2: out about it, they'd be like, well, that's just standard
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Speaker 2: in the industry.
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Speaker 3: We're stealing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't give credit for stuff like this. Cool
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Speaker 2: cool cool, have at.
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Speaker 3: Least gone with like, oh, the host was vamping and
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Speaker 3: it just happened to come out.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: It's like a thousand monkeys in a room with typewriters.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, eventually you're going to say the exact same thing
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Speaker 2: for ten minutes.
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Speaker 3: They're gonna come up with a listicle that was on
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Speaker 3: crack dot cop.
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Speaker 2: So the first theory they mentioned the directed energy weapons theory.
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Speaker 2: This one was pushed by a far right media host
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Speaker 2: named Stu Peters, who infuriatingly spells his first name st W.
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Speaker 3: I'm really glad that you brought that up, because it's
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Speaker 3: just guys s to you, s to you. Yeah, otherwise
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Speaker 3: I think you're talking about like a meaty broth.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like it's fine to change the spelling when
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Speaker 2: you shorten it. That's a perfectly normal thing. Yeah, we
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Speaker 2: call people named Jonathan Jack sometimes, yes, we can. You
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Speaker 2: can substitute the ew for a U.
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Speaker 3: Somehow in English margin it became piggy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly so. He is mostly well known for having
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Speaker 2: previously published a video called watch the Water or he
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Speaker 2: claims COVID is caused by synthetic snake venom and that
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Speaker 2: the Cabal spread it through Remdesevie vaccines and water to
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Speaker 2: make us hybrids of Satan. Very interesting that they would
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Speaker 2: spread COVID using a treatment for COVID, because you kind
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Speaker 2: of have to have COVID before you get remdesevir.
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Speaker 3: So okay, the snake venom, sure, sure, go on. I
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Speaker 3: don't understand how snake venom leads to being a hybrid
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Speaker 3: of Satan.
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Speaker 2: Well that's because you're blind, Olivia, and you haven't had
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Speaker 2: your eyes open to the truth, and unfortunately neither of ies,
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Speaker 2: so I have no idea.
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Speaker 3: Also, I'm so glad we're just straight out we're just
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Speaker 3: calling things caballs now, no, no, not a care in
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Speaker 3: the world, just just straight up talking about a secret caball.
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Speaker 2: Just set balls. Yeah, whenever I hear someone use the
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Speaker 2: word cabal, my fucking senses go on.
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Speaker 3: Unless they're talking about fucking destiny too. I don't need
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Speaker 3: to be hearing anybody talk about caball.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, or if it's a clip from like pre two
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Speaker 2: thousand and fourteen, then you can talk about cabals all
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Speaker 2: you want. It's just once. Once in the age of QAnon,
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Speaker 2: you don't get to use the word cabal anymore.
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Speaker 3: That's definitely true.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the swastika. I get that it has
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Speaker 2: a lot of meanings, but once the Nazis started using it,
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Speaker 2: don't put it in your marketing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unfortunate about the swastika.
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Speaker 2: It is so Stu Peters stew he posted a thing
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Speaker 2: on Twitter. It said, watch all of Southeast Quebec catch
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Speaker 2: on fire at the exact same time. Statistically impossible to
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Speaker 2: happen by accident. Clearly, our governments are targeting us with
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Speaker 2: directed energy weapons. Sure, and it's like us. You're in
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Speaker 2: the United States, they're in Canada.
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Speaker 3: Well, but the smoke is bothering him, so it's clearly
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Speaker 3: about him.
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Speaker 2: True.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, this is obviously ridiculous. I think
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Speaker 3: the fact that it's statistically impossible to happen, you know,
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Speaker 3: could use some citation.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and we'll get to that at the end
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Speaker 2: of the episode too, where what he's describing as weird
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Speaker 2: as the video looks, I don't know if you've watched
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Speaker 2: the video, but it does look like five fires start
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Speaker 2: at the same time. Sure, but that's actually not what's happening, No,
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Speaker 2: but we'll get there.
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Speaker 3: First of all, fires don't just immediately become blazing visible
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Speaker 3: wildfires instantly. That just is not how it works. And
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Speaker 3: then our ancestors figured that out while we were in caves.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's exactly the thing. We'll play a more
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Speaker 2: detailed description of it at the end from an actual meteorologist.
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Speaker 2: But what's happening in this video that this guy's talking about,
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Speaker 2: and like all of these theories seem to be based
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Speaker 2: on this video, the simple description is these fires had
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Speaker 2: all started, but they were just like smoldering under the
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Speaker 2: cover of the tree tops, and then there was a
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Speaker 2: really strong wind incident that basically caused all five of
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Speaker 2: the fires you see in that video to blow up
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Speaker 2: at once, because that's what wind does with fires, It
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Speaker 2: makes them bigger and stronger, and so all you're seeing
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Speaker 2: is five different fires that had already started reacting to
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Speaker 2: being hit by the same like huge wind force basically,
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Speaker 2: which when we listen to the video, I mean, that's
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Speaker 2: exactly how she'll say it, the huge wind force. Wind force.
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Speaker 3: Everybody knows that's the scientific term.
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Speaker 2: Right, It's how you describe what wind really feels. Like,
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Speaker 2: even if it's only blowing like twenty five miles an hour,
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Speaker 2: it's like wind chill or real feel, which I love.
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Speaker 2: Some outlets have rebranded it wait wind what some like
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Speaker 2: media outlets that instead of wind chill, they call it
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Speaker 2: real feel. So if it's twenty degrees out, but with
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Speaker 2: wind chill it feels like eight, that means the real
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Speaker 2: feel is eight degrees. Baby.
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Sex Toys have had real field covered
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Speaker 3: for a while now, right anyway.
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Speaker 2: So yeah. One Twitter user in response to this post wrote,
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Speaker 2: looks like the storm has arrived. Cabal is going scorched earth,
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Speaker 2: and it's like, now, you're just mixing up your fucking
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Speaker 2: plot lines. That's not what the storm is. The storm
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Speaker 2: is when the cabal gets rounded up.
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Speaker 3: Supposedly, that's like what the Q storm is supposed to mean, right, yeah.
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Speaker 2: The storm actually, yeah, that's what it refers to, is
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Speaker 2: that moment when Donald Trump and his ILK dropped the
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Speaker 2: hammer on the cabal and round him all up in
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Speaker 2: the middle of the night. Yeah, which was also supposed
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Speaker 2: to have happened several times by now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe didn't that happen in twenty seventeen, didn't
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Speaker 3: that happen in his first year in office.
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Speaker 2: I could have sworm, I believe. So, yeah, I believe
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Speaker 2: he wiped out the child sex trafficking cult and that's
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Speaker 2: why he didn't get reelected. There was nothing else for
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Speaker 2: him to do.
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Speaker 3: Exactly, his job was done. That's what he drained the
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Speaker 3: swamp around the same time, right.
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Speaker 2: Right, right, yeah, yeah, he made America great again. And
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Speaker 2: then so we didn't need to re elect him. It's
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Speaker 2: pretty selfless actually.
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Speaker 3: And now you know the trans is are going after
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Speaker 3: our kids, so he's gotta come back into the game.
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Speaker 2: We put the fucking Trump beacon into the Yeah, it's
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Speaker 2: just an outline of his hair, like the old Conan
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Speaker 2: O'Brien logo.
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Speaker 3: It's like Rainbow First Blood part two. You know, he's
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Speaker 3: in the prison camp, laboring away.
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Speaker 2: And now he's back to stop trans women from winning
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Speaker 2: medals in swimming, thank god.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is someone has such a problem, such a
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Speaker 3: huge problem.
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Speaker 2: Huge problem. I lose sleep over it, honestly, I mean god,
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Speaker 2: they's a swimming pool though, So.
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Speaker 3: They stopped the fastest woman in Connecticut from getting fourth
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Speaker 3: place in the race. Exactly can you believe this?
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so crazy.
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Speaker 3: Yep, it is.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of crazy. Let's talk about the next story, the
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Speaker 2: flame thrower drone theory. Yeah, which this would be such
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Speaker 2: an audacious plot if it was like to just send
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Speaker 2: a drone that is spitting fire and you're doing it
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Speaker 2: for like nefarious reasons, that's not gonna fly. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I thought this was supposed to be like a secret conspiracy.
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Speaker 3: It's not very inconspicuous.
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Speaker 2: This also comes from Stu Peters. Yeah, he posted a.
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Speaker 3: What I said, stupid anyway, I got him.
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Speaker 2: He posted another video and this one showed what looked
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Speaker 2: like a remote controlled helicopter, Yeah, drizzling like napalm on
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Speaker 2: a forest. This is a quote. It seems Canada isn't
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Speaker 2: sophisticated enough to use d w's. Looks like they opted
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Speaker 2: for a drone with a flame thrower instead. It's like
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Speaker 2: a drone with a flame thrower.
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Speaker 3: That's the next best option to a laser.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like, is that even the most efficient way
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Speaker 2: to start a fire? I mean it might be, because
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Speaker 2: this is a legitimate thing. The video's real.
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Speaker 3: Really, you could fuck up a forest with the chart
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Speaker 3: with a flamethrower.
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Speaker 2: You sure could. You could also do it with just
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Speaker 2: a flamethrower, right, exactly.
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Speaker 3: Well, then they used to this is the whole that's
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Speaker 3: the advancement that we're seeing here.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, what is depicted in this video is a
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Speaker 2: firefighting drone engaging in something called backburning, which is a
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Speaker 2: standard firefighting procedure where you basically fight fire with fire exactly. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: And even after that was pointed out in the comments,
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Speaker 2: people were still clinging to this idea, sure, to the
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Speaker 2: point that one commenter said, that is terrorism on our
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Speaker 2: own soil. These fucks need to be arrested. Any helicopter
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Speaker 2: with this equipment needs to be destroyed in the pilot
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Speaker 2: hung and it's like, okay, but then we'll have to
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Speaker 2: go back to backburning with just flamethrower and then that
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Speaker 2: thing we just mentioned about the wind. Sometimes those two
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Speaker 2: things combined to kill people. Exactly.
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Speaker 3: It's extremely dangerous.
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Speaker 2: It's highly dangerous to start a forest fire from the ground.
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Speaker 3: I think a big problem here is the American education
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Speaker 3: system has just totally failed in teaching our kids about
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Speaker 3: backdraft the correct the Ron Howard film.
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Speaker 2: Sure Sure, which is more.
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Speaker 3: Kids not to be watching it.
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Speaker 2: It's a great film and it's a great tragedy that
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Speaker 2: it's not shown in schools.
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Speaker 3: It should be. It teaches us that fire is an evil,
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Speaker 3: living thing that seeks out your loved ones, and that
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Speaker 3: you know, there are various ways that we can combat.
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Speaker 2: It, including a drone with a flamethrower, including.
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Speaker 3: A drill with a flavor, which is a cool idea.
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Speaker 3: I don't know why you guys are shitting on something
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Speaker 3: that's objectively awesome.
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Speaker 2: So now let's talk about a theory that makes it
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Speaker 2: just a whole lot of sense. Absolutely, these fires Olivia
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Speaker 2: are the result of an Antifa arsonist. Yeah, can you
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Speaker 2: believe it?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I sure don't.
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Speaker 3: It's so fun. How now, anytime the right wing gets
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Speaker 3: mad at something, they can't have the mental capacity to
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Speaker 3: be mad at multiple things at the same time, and
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Speaker 3: so they have to combine it. And so we've gotten
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Speaker 3: Trantifa recently, and now we're getting fire Tifa.
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Speaker 2: Yes, this is a quote from social media user quoted
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Speaker 2: in the Rolling Stone article. Antifa pyromaniacs are getting started
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Speaker 2: early this year as this thing on wines looked for
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Speaker 2: wildfires to increase exponentially as the cabal burns everything down.
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Speaker 2: What does getting started early this year means this thing
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Speaker 2: has Antifa been set in forest fires this whole time.
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Speaker 3: I think that's the implication, and maybe with a little
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Speaker 3: bit of like fires at Black Lives Matter protests and
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Speaker 3: the general implication there. I don't know. I don't see
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Speaker 3: how these people's rotted brains work.
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Speaker 2: Is there a target in the forests of southeast Quebec.
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Speaker 3: No, but Minneapolis did put one of their police precincts there,
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Speaker 3: which was a mistake. I'll say that was a mistake.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a misjudgment for sure.
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Speaker 3: I mean, for one thing, it's in another country which.
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Speaker 2: No jurisdiction there at all.
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Speaker 3: They have to drive so far across the border to
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Speaker 3: enforce the law.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. Might be illegal to put a
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Speaker 2: police station in another country, Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah, I feel like that could be
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Speaker 3: an active war. We should investigate this.
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Speaker 2: And you'll know that with this theory, not a single
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Speaker 2: one like this theory and all the others when they
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Speaker 2: bring up the cabal burning shit down, almost none of
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Speaker 2: them provide a reason for why that would be. We'll
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Speaker 2: get to some theories that do. But all of these
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Speaker 2: Antifa arsonists, flamethrower, drone, direct energy weapons, why it's just well,
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Speaker 2: something bad happened. The cabal must have done it exactly.
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Speaker 3: Yes, that's it, that's all they got.
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Speaker 2: Must be the deep state burning down our Canadian forests.
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Speaker 3: Deep state.
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Speaker 2: But this next theory fixes all that. The wildfires are
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Speaker 2: the new COVID theory. Sure, sure, because you see now
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Speaker 2: that COVID restrictions have mostly ended, the government needs a
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Speaker 2: new way to impose lockdowns on people. Because remember how
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Speaker 2: that was great for the economy and absolutely there was
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Speaker 2: no blowback on the government at all from that. Oh no, well,
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Speaker 2: I mean, what better way to keep us all inside
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Speaker 2: then allegedly terrible air quality. Sure, here's a quote, and
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Speaker 2: the mispronunciations are actually part of the quote. They sets
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Speaker 2: the Quebec in Ontario on fire as part of a
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Speaker 2: globalist climate change scam. Climate change lockdowns are starting. And
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Speaker 2: here are a couple other quotes from the Rolling Stone article.
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Speaker 2: As many of us have noticed from the start, many
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Speaker 2: of the COVID zealots also push climate crisis shit, no.
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Speaker 3: Shit, I wonder what's up with that?
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Speaker 2: Wildfires are the new COVID Stay indoors wear a mask,
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Speaker 2: fear pushed by the news it will only be two
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Speaker 2: weeks is anyone else felling deja vu, Like imagine being
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Speaker 2: mad that the government tells you to wear a mask
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Speaker 2: when there is smoke in the air. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: First thing I like to say is, go ahead. This
21:57
Speaker 3: seems like a problem that will fix itself. You just
21:59
Speaker 3: don't wear a man gets fine, correct, We don't have
22:02
Speaker 3: to worry about these people. They will not be a
22:05
Speaker 3: long term issue. Yeah, make a day, stay out, go ahead,
22:10
Speaker 3: go for a jog whatever.
22:11
Speaker 2: Yeah.
22:12
Speaker 3: Second, I just love this idea that the government needs
22:15
Speaker 3: an excuse to bring back lockdowns, as if the government
22:21
Speaker 3: wasn't the one that stopped the lockdown. Yeah, they could
22:27
Speaker 3: just have not stopped it if they wanted to keep
22:30
Speaker 3: it going. That's easy. They don't need to set anything
22:33
Speaker 3: on fire. You just say, you know, no, there's actually,
22:38
Speaker 3: according to all reasonable evidence, COVID is still a huge problem.
22:42
Speaker 3: So we're gonna stay locked down. But they didn't do.
22:45
Speaker 2: That, right, And yeah, that would have been a much
22:48
Speaker 2: easier course of action as opposed to let's set like
22:52
Speaker 2: two thirds of Canada on fire. Yeah, exactly, see what happens?
22:56
Speaker 3: Nothing back could happened because of that, Right, what's the worst.
23:00
Speaker 3: Surely that's not gonna accelerate anything terrible happening with our climate.
23:05
Speaker 2: Right, And also this would be comparable to COVID if
23:11
Speaker 2: when COVID started, the government was like, look, it's gonna
23:15
Speaker 2: be five months in October, it's gonna be all done
23:18
Speaker 2: because we know the Canadian wildfire season goes from like
23:21
Speaker 2: May to October. Right, Yeah, we didn't have that with COVID.
23:24
Speaker 2: The government was like, I don't know.
23:27
Speaker 3: Not only do we not know, we're actively trying not
23:30
Speaker 3: to know. We don't want to know.
23:33
Speaker 2: And also what an ineffective way to impose a long
23:38
Speaker 2: term lockdown because the difference between smoke from a fire
23:43
Speaker 2: and COVID is that you can just look up in
23:46
Speaker 2: the sky and see if one of them is there.
23:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my lungs are really burning today? Why is
23:53
Speaker 3: it worn't the government.
23:55
Speaker 2: Exactly like those lockdowns will be over and you'll know
23:59
Speaker 2: when they're gonna be over because there's no more smoke
24:02
Speaker 2: in the sky.
24:02
Speaker 3: Exactly, very simple, and like again, you know, you're free
24:06
Speaker 3: to ignore all of this. This is not like COVID.
24:10
Speaker 3: No one is gonna try to stop you too passionately
24:14
Speaker 3: from going outside. If you really want to go ahead.
24:18
Speaker 2: You're not gonna spread fire to your loved ones.
24:21
Speaker 3: Exactly, go fucking die. I don't fucking care.
24:25
Speaker 2: Those goddamn park don't wear a mask. Yeah, please speaking
24:30
Speaker 2: to that, here's another quote. Places like New York are
24:33
Speaker 2: advising to stay inside, go outside for only essential errands,
24:38
Speaker 2: and to wear an N ninety five mask if they
24:41
Speaker 2: go outside. Are they seeing how many people will follow
24:45
Speaker 2: their recommendations voluntarily?
24:48
Speaker 3: They don't want your lungs to burn out of your chest.
24:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that particulate matter that's gonna get in your
24:54
Speaker 2: chest is no fucking joke.
24:56
Speaker 3: Because the city will have to clean you up. Yeah,
25:01
Speaker 3: that's the extent of their motivation here.
25:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so much crazier than the covid Anti mask.
25:08
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's evidence of how absolutely out of control
25:14
Speaker 3: our national discourse has gotten in all arenas. Yeah, it's
25:19
Speaker 3: just out of control. Things that were minor grievances three
25:24
Speaker 3: years ago are now life or death struggles that we
25:28
Speaker 3: will like suicide bomboo over.
25:31
Speaker 2: Basically, Yeah, it's wild how everything is political now. Yes,
25:39
Speaker 2: there is no news story that is not political and
25:43
Speaker 2: divisive in some way, I.
25:45
Speaker 3: Mean, and it's all being pushed by a fanatic right
25:50
Speaker 3: wing yeah, yeah, it moleft wing is like trying to
25:53
Speaker 3: keep up.
25:54
Speaker 2: Yeah. So here's another this this theory is a little confusing.
25:58
Speaker 2: We are about to be hit on several front's theory. Yeah.
26:02
Speaker 2: Rolling Stone found this from a gab user who added
26:06
Speaker 2: another angle to the lockdown theory. Here's a quote. We
26:09
Speaker 2: are about to be hit on several fronts another pandemic,
26:13
Speaker 2: climate emergency, illegal invasion, and UFO invasion. Sound crazy. Get ready,
26:21
Speaker 2: it's coming, It's happening now. Yeah.
26:26
Speaker 3: I mean look this to me, this to me is
26:29
Speaker 3: so just representative of what conspiracy theories have become, where
26:33
Speaker 3: it's all together, it's all wrapped up, it's all related.
26:37
Speaker 3: Even if there's nothing there to connect these things, the
26:43
Speaker 3: fact that they believe in all of them means that
26:46
Speaker 3: they are all connected.
26:47
Speaker 2: Yeah. And there's a lot of gambling with your reputation
26:52
Speaker 2: in stuff like this. Yeah, because unless you go back
26:55
Speaker 2: and delete your gabs or whatever the fuck they call
26:58
Speaker 2: them on that site, eventually people are going to be
27:01
Speaker 2: able to come back to you and go, hey, that
27:03
Speaker 2: thing you said was going to happen isn't happening. What
27:05
Speaker 2: the fuck? Yeah? But I mean not that that matters
27:10
Speaker 2: to people who push shit like this, but still.
27:13
Speaker 3: It's easier to prove. But yeah, like people have been
27:16
Speaker 3: making doomsday predictions for forever and this is just like
27:21
Speaker 3: this is the modern version of that, and now there
27:24
Speaker 3: are a bunch of people who, Yeah, you could go
27:26
Speaker 3: back and find someone's contradictory gabs, but like, who would
27:32
Speaker 3: believe this would do that? Like even if it doesn't happen,
27:37
Speaker 3: I feel like they'll just be like, well, it's going
27:39
Speaker 3: to happen soon anyway.
27:41
Speaker 2: Right, or it's just part of the plot, or yeah.
27:44
Speaker 3: Or they wanted us to think it was happened. It's
27:46
Speaker 3: a faint you know.
27:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, my gab post actually prevented.
27:50
Speaker 3: It, so right exactly, they saw that we knew, so
27:53
Speaker 3: they changed the idea.
27:55
Speaker 2: Some other users on gab speculated that the cause would
28:00
Speaker 2: space debris. Sure, why not, which I think we'd notice
28:04
Speaker 2: space debris that caused that kind of fucking damage.
28:06
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we did it, maybe it was cosmic, but like,
28:09
Speaker 3: I don't know what that's supposed to prove. Yeah, like
28:14
Speaker 3: space debris lands on Earth every day.
28:16
Speaker 2: So also, another user pointed out that the path of
28:20
Speaker 2: the wildfires is the same path those weird Chinese spy
28:24
Speaker 2: balloons took yeah, which that was months ago.
28:29
Speaker 3: And also is that true?
28:33
Speaker 2: Probably not.
28:34
Speaker 3: I haven't looked up either of those maps, but just
28:37
Speaker 3: on my guts, I gotta say I would need some
28:42
Speaker 3: evidence about that.
28:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it does seem like that would be legitimate
28:46
Speaker 2: news if that was the case, Like, if there was
28:50
Speaker 2: a direct line you could trace for both of those events,
28:55
Speaker 2: I feel like someone would point that out for real.
28:57
Speaker 3: Do you think the American media would pass up an
29:00
Speaker 3: opportunity to fearmonger?
29:02
Speaker 2: Come on right exactly and the American government seriously, Next theory,
29:09
Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about this, Okay.
29:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had never heard anything this complicated, but I
29:16
Speaker 3: was aware that there was similar to the rumblings of
29:20
Speaker 3: the They're going to make you eat the bug. I'd
29:22
Speaker 3: heard about the fifteen minute cities thing.
29:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I just barely knew what a fifteen minute
29:28
Speaker 2: city is. But it's a place where residents can get
29:31
Speaker 2: pretty much all of life's necessities within it's a fifteen
29:35
Speaker 2: minute walk.
29:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a catchy slogan for a walkable urban environment.
29:40
Speaker 3: That's literally all it is. It's just a way for
29:44
Speaker 3: urban planners to talk about the goal of a walkable
29:48
Speaker 3: urban environment.
29:49
Speaker 2: And what I didn't realize is that this is what
29:54
Speaker 2: people mean when they talk about climate lockdowns, because these
29:59
Speaker 2: cities are being developed in this way because our cars
30:02
Speaker 2: are spewing too much shit into the air. That's indefinitely Yeah,
30:08
Speaker 2: And these plans for cities like this are a response
30:12
Speaker 2: to the climate crisis. And what right wingers think is
30:17
Speaker 2: you're going to be locked in this small, fifteen minute
30:21
Speaker 2: city because of climate and it's just the next way
30:25
Speaker 2: for the government to lock us down.
30:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to lock you in one of the
30:29
Speaker 3: most ideal living conditions that a human being could possibly
30:34
Speaker 3: ask for. Oh no, yeah, Yeah. What's really ridiculous about
30:39
Speaker 3: this is they are literally getting scared of ideas.
30:43
Speaker 2: Right.
30:43
Speaker 3: Nothing about this as being built, nothing about it's even
30:46
Speaker 3: really actively being planned. Most cities actively fight against urbanization,
30:53
Speaker 3: against you know, making their cities walkable and less car heavy.
30:58
Speaker 2: Yeah.
30:58
Speaker 3: So not only is this not happening in the way
31:01
Speaker 3: that they describe, it's not even happening in the good way.
31:05
Speaker 2: Right. And also I imagine a lot of people pushing
31:09
Speaker 2: this theory and people who are up in arms about
31:12
Speaker 2: fifteen minute cities. They're gonna tend to be Trump supporter types.
31:16
Speaker 2: And we know Trump has a huge following in rural areas. Yes,
31:21
Speaker 2: And we are fresh off of recording an episode of
31:26
Speaker 2: you Don't even like this show about Dollar General and
31:29
Speaker 2: dollar stores in general, and hey, and like, if you're
31:35
Speaker 2: living in one of these rural areas that super duper
31:38
Speaker 2: support Trump, chances are you only have like a Dollar
31:41
Speaker 2: General that you can walk to. If even that.
31:45
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the idea of walking anywhere, even in a
31:49
Speaker 3: like vaguely rural area is kind of laughable.
31:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like, I get that hamburger helper tastes a
31:56
Speaker 2: lot better than you would expect it to. But also
31:59
Speaker 2: there's so much more food out there you could have
32:01
Speaker 2: if you had access to something other than a Dollar General.
32:05
Speaker 2: So the fifteen minute cities aren't a bad thing, no.
32:08
Speaker 3: And it's not like, you know, a fifteen minute city
32:12
Speaker 3: existing would get rid of you know, small rural towns.
32:18
Speaker 3: That's just a fairy tale.
32:20
Speaker 2: But if the cabal sets all the small towns on
32:25
Speaker 2: fire Olivia, then people in those areas will be forced
32:31
Speaker 2: to migrate to fifteen minute towns.
32:34
Speaker 3: Well, you know, if Mike Town ever caught on fire,
32:38
Speaker 3: I would be happy that the place I was going
32:40
Speaker 3: to didn't require me to already have a lot of possessions. Honestly,
32:47
Speaker 3: I just don't understand. This is the thing that kind
32:49
Speaker 3: of makes me break down is Americans getting pissy about
32:54
Speaker 3: urban planning.
32:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, make any sense, It doesn't make any sense.
33:00
Speaker 3: It's not bad for anyone except for really super rich people.
33:06
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's exactly as if someone went into one of
33:10
Speaker 2: these communities and was like, hey, you want more grocery
33:12
Speaker 2: stores here, and they were like, no, absolutely not, and
33:17
Speaker 2: you need them in.
33:19
Speaker 3: The fucked up thing about America is that there would
33:24
Speaker 3: be those people. Yes, absolutely fucking lunatics.
33:29
Speaker 2: Hey, speaking of fucking lunatics, here's a quote from David
33:32
Speaker 2: Nino Rodriguez, a former heavyweight boxer. Uh, the fires in
33:36
Speaker 2: Canada are being used for nothing more than to displace families,
33:41
Speaker 2: ruin homes, and migrate people into fifteen minute cities. I
33:46
Speaker 2: should point out Rolling Stone already made the joke that
33:49
Speaker 2: sounds exactly like someone who got hit in the head professionally, Yeah, which, yeah, exactly.
33:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's really I mean, talk about a knockout, like
34:00
Speaker 3: you're not going to really do better than that. Yeah,
34:04
Speaker 3: I mean it's ridiculous.
34:05
Speaker 2: I just don't.
34:06
Speaker 3: Understand why anyone would think that a government would want
34:10
Speaker 3: to do this stuff. It just sounds like a huge
34:13
Speaker 3: pain in the ass for very little gain for the government.
34:16
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also, once again, it's the government. If they're
34:20
Speaker 2: building some shit and you don't want to sell them
34:22
Speaker 2: your house to make way for it, they'll eventually just
34:25
Speaker 2: take your house, yeah, and give you the money they
34:28
Speaker 2: want to give you for it. If the government wanted
34:31
Speaker 2: to force us to migrate to fifteen minute cities, they
34:35
Speaker 2: would force us to migrate to fifteen minutes they Why.
34:38
Speaker 3: Would they burn down land that is perfectly usable, right, right,
34:42
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense actially.
34:44
Speaker 2: If it's a climate change thing.
34:47
Speaker 3: Sure, but they don't think climate change is real.
34:49
Speaker 2: True, so I imagine they also think climate change types
34:54
Speaker 2: don't think climate change is real.
34:57
Speaker 3: That's the right wing dynamic because they don't actually believe
35:00
Speaker 3: in anything except spiting other people. They think that that's
35:03
Speaker 3: how people on the other side think, even though really
35:06
Speaker 3: we're just like we was a few people to fucking
35:08
Speaker 3: die as we possibly can.
35:10
Speaker 2: Yeah. Remember there was that Jesse Ventura episode about how
35:14
Speaker 2: al Gore was like making money on climate change technology. Sure.
35:20
Speaker 2: And it's like people should make money for working.
35:24
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, you think al Gore shouldn't be paid
35:26
Speaker 3: for making a successful documentary.
35:29
Speaker 2: That's his job.
35:30
Speaker 3: Now, I thought you were supposed to be a free
35:32
Speaker 3: market libertarian.
35:34
Speaker 2: Are you up to al Gore? Jesus Jesse, I wish
35:38
Speaker 2: he would. We got to find more, Jesse Ventura con.
35:41
Speaker 3: I hope he's just chilling. I hope he is just
35:44
Speaker 3: smoking with that hanging out.
35:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure he's not. He's probably somewhere with Oliver
35:50
Speaker 2: Stone's kid.
35:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, mischief, not Oliver stones Kid.
35:57
Speaker 2: The last Rolling Stone theory that they mentioned in this article.
36:00
Speaker 2: It's a doozy Olivia. The point of this fire the
36:04
Speaker 2: cabal set them to black out the sun. Wow, there's
36:10
Speaker 2: a quote. Does anyone else have a sneaking suspicion that
36:13
Speaker 2: these Canadian fires are meant to blot out the sun
36:18
Speaker 2: and kill crops? What that is going to impact everybody?
36:24
Speaker 3: Yeah? The kabul needs mean, unless you're saying the kaboul
36:27
Speaker 3: doesn't need to eat food to stay alive, which they might.
36:30
Speaker 2: Be saying, well, they eat children, so right, Yeah.
36:34
Speaker 3: But I mean it seems like their children crops would need.
36:39
Speaker 2: That's true, you do got to feed the children.
36:41
Speaker 3: But also, like, buddy, you don't think we got some
36:44
Speaker 3: better ways to blot out the sun if we wanted
36:46
Speaker 3: to blot out the sun. Yeah, surely then starting a
36:50
Speaker 3: bunch of fires. That just seems so low tech.
36:53
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also we got better ways to kill crops.
36:56
Speaker 3: Oh, we could kill crops in an instant.
36:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is actually a thing we do the United
37:04
Speaker 2: States government. It is one of the things we do
37:06
Speaker 2: when we are engaging in war, or a thing we've
37:09
Speaker 2: done in the past, like, if it's to our benefit,
37:13
Speaker 2: we will fuck up your food supply.
37:15
Speaker 3: Have these people seen our flamethio drones, because I bet
37:20
Speaker 3: you any thing, you anything, we could take out some
37:22
Speaker 3: crops with those.
37:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can kill so many crops. Yeah.
37:26
Speaker 3: Why do forest fires when we could do crop fires.
37:30
Speaker 2: Here's another quote. The main thing that comes to mind
37:33
Speaker 2: is cloud seeding with smoke particles. It could possibly keep
37:38
Speaker 2: people from planting or make seeds too wet to germinate.
37:42
Speaker 2: So yes, same goal, kill the crop production. I like
37:46
Speaker 2: how all these motherfuckers are scientists.
37:49
Speaker 3: The smartest people on the planet, truly.
37:52
Speaker 2: It's amazing.
37:53
Speaker 3: Wow, the mines.
37:55
Speaker 2: Here's one last quote. Breaking the sun is no longer
37:59
Speaker 2: visible in Binghamton, New York. They just did it. They
38:04
Speaker 2: covered up the sun. No more vitamins, No more vitamins.
38:11
Speaker 3: No more vitamins.
38:14
Speaker 2: This guy wasn't taking vitamins anyway. No, And yeah, we'll
38:19
Speaker 2: link to this Rolling Stone article in the show notes.
38:21
Speaker 2: It's a good read. And we are not done no,
38:27
Speaker 2: because we should also talk about Marjorie Taylor Green and
38:30
Speaker 2: her Jewish space laser theory.
38:33
Speaker 3: What a cool lady.
38:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's so great. So a lot of these theories
38:38
Speaker 2: most likely have their roots in a story that broke
38:41
Speaker 2: about Marjorie Taylor Green back in twenty twenty one. That's
38:45
Speaker 2: when a reporter named Eric Hananoke wrote about a twenty
38:49
Speaker 2: eighteen Facebook post where Marjorie Taylor Green suggested that wildfires
38:55
Speaker 2: were being set intentionally by PG and E. That's Pacific
39:00
Speaker 2: Gas and Electric in conjunction, exactly in conjunction with who else,
39:07
Speaker 2: the rothschild's a, the Jews, and all to make way
39:14
Speaker 2: for a high speed rail project.
39:17
Speaker 3: God, I fucking wish man Jesus.
39:19
Speaker 2: And as long as it may be, I feel like
39:23
Speaker 2: we'd be doing the people of disservice if we didn't
39:25
Speaker 2: read that post. Yes, cause here's the thing. This is
39:29
Speaker 2: why Marjorie Taylor Green is in Congress and the motherfucker's
39:34
Speaker 2: quoted in this article are on telegram or whatever. She
39:38
Speaker 2: puts some thought into this crazy shit. Yes, yeah, that
39:43
Speaker 2: is why it's so long. I imagine I'm going to
39:46
Speaker 2: run out of steam about halfway through and give up.
39:49
Speaker 2: But let's go for as long as we can. Here
39:51
Speaker 2: goes as. There are now over seventy people confirmed dead
39:56
Speaker 2: in over one thousand missing. The fires in California are
39:59
Speaker 2: a horrific tragedy. I'm praying for all involved. Good start
40:04
Speaker 2: so far. If she had just ended the post there,
40:07
Speaker 2: we'd be in business. But it goes on. I'm posting
40:10
Speaker 2: this in speculation because there are too many coincidences to ignore,
40:15
Speaker 2: and just putting it out there from some research I've
40:18
Speaker 2: done stemming from my curiosity over PG and E stocks,
40:23
Speaker 2: which tanked all week then rallied Thursday night after California
40:29
Speaker 2: officials announced they would not let PG and E fail.
40:33
Speaker 2: I find it very interesting that Roger Kimmel, on the
40:37
Speaker 2: board of directors of PG and E, is also vice
40:40
Speaker 2: chairman of Ross's Child Incorporated International Investment banking firm. I
40:46
Speaker 2: also find interesting the long history of financial contributions that
40:51
Speaker 2: PG and E has made to Jerry Brown over the years,
40:55
Speaker 2: and millions spent in lobbying. What a coincidence it must
41:00
Speaker 2: be that Governor Brown signed a bill in September. Okay,
41:04
Speaker 2: this is too long. Where's the fucking lasers? Here we go. Then,
41:08
Speaker 2: oddly there are all these people who have said they
41:11
Speaker 2: saw what looked like lasers are blue beams of light
41:14
Speaker 2: causing the fires and pictures and videos. I don't know
41:18
Speaker 2: anything about that, but I do find it really curious
41:21
Speaker 2: PG and E's partnership with solarin on space solar generators
41:26
Speaker 2: starting in two thousand and nine. They announced the launch
41:29
Speaker 2: into space in March twenty eighteen, and maybe even put
41:34
Speaker 2: them up before that. Space solar generators collect the Sun's
41:39
Speaker 2: energy and then beam it back to Earth to a
41:42
Speaker 2: transmitter to convert to electricity. I cannot go on. There's
41:47
Speaker 2: so much more.
41:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an extremely long post.
41:51
Speaker 2: It's a very long post, and I just cannot do it.
41:54
Speaker 2: But hey, we'll link to it if you want to
41:57
Speaker 2: read it and be radicalized by its fat Yeah, she's
42:01
Speaker 2: basically saying the Jews are working with the state of
42:05
Speaker 2: California to build space lasers to start wild fires.
42:11
Speaker 3: Right, because that's the easiest way to do that.
42:13
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what California needs, is more fucking wildfires.
42:18
Speaker 3: I just don't understand.
42:19
Speaker 2: And somewhere in there there's stuff about a high speed
42:22
Speaker 2: rail project.
42:23
Speaker 3: There is, Yeah, yeah, there is. It makes no sense
42:25
Speaker 3: even if you did read it all.
42:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, because again, we wouldn't just you know, tear down
42:30
Speaker 2: that part of the forest that we needed for the
42:32
Speaker 2: high speed rail project.
42:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, or go around it, or you know, all sorts
42:38
Speaker 3: of options. We should build a high speed rail.
42:40
Speaker 2: Though I would argue building a high speed rail would
42:43
Speaker 2: maybe even in terms of climate stuff, offset the damage
42:47
Speaker 2: done by cutting down some trees. It would help. So yeah, yeah,
42:53
Speaker 2: I would love that fucking high speed rail.
42:55
Speaker 3: It would seem like our country is pretty well suited
42:58
Speaker 3: to it, considering how vast it is.
43:03
Speaker 2: Yep, hey, all right, let's talk about a theory from
43:06
Speaker 2: the Canadian side of the border. Yeah, the echo terrorist theory. Sure,
43:13
Speaker 2: this article comes from Yahoo UK.
43:16
Speaker 3: Y'all oo Yahoo dot uk yah ooh.
43:20
Speaker 2: Brov in it. We still a search engine in it? Yoh,
43:25
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's still a search engine anyway,
43:28
Speaker 2: The conspiracy theories from Canada are a little less sensationalists because,
43:33
Speaker 2: as we all know, historically Canada not as fun as
43:36
Speaker 2: we are.
43:37
Speaker 3: No, all the same problems, just not as fun.
43:42
Speaker 2: Right, So it obviously wasn't Antifa who set the fires,
43:48
Speaker 2: and obviously no direct energy weapons were involved. It was
43:52
Speaker 2: just a run of the mill eco terrorist.
43:55
Speaker 3: Sure.
43:55
Speaker 2: This is a quote from Maxim Bernie, fringe party leader
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Speaker 2: in Canada, and I nailed the pronunciation of his name.
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Speaker 2: Here goes you know.
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Speaker 3: I'm something of a maximum burnie er myself.
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Speaker 2: Here's this quote. I've got a good portion of the
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Speaker 2: wildfires raging across the country. We're started by green terrorists
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Speaker 2: who want to give their climate change campaign a little boost. Totally.
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Speaker 2: And there was also a TikTok video that made the
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Speaker 2: rounds in Canada that claimed these fires were set in
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Speaker 2: Nova Scotia on purpose to push a climate change agenda.
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Speaker 3: Sure, and the word nothing gets people on your side
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Speaker 3: like starting a giant fire.
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Speaker 2: Right Like wrecking the climate for a while, That really
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Speaker 2: gets the people on your side. The word echo terrorist
44:48
Speaker 2: is getting thrown around a bunch in all of these
44:50
Speaker 2: posts and comments. Right, And the issue here is that
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Speaker 2: they aren't even necessarily incorrect. For one thing, as we
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Speaker 2: record this, they don't I think, officially know the actual
45:03
Speaker 2: cause of these fires. Sure, and there is a perfectly
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Speaker 2: good chance that they could have been set intentionally, or
45:12
Speaker 2: they could have been set by humans accidentally, could have
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Speaker 2: been a motherfucker smoking it, could be an eco terrorist.
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Speaker 2: But the thing is, well, so what about that. That
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean the cabal is trying to burn everything to
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Speaker 2: the ground. It just means sometimes people start fires, like
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Speaker 2: a lot of the California wildfires are started by people.
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Speaker 2: But it's not a conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 3: The problem is that like careless inaction due to our
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Speaker 3: terrible climate can lead to a chain reaction that has
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Speaker 3: devastating consequences. Right, It's not like the weather. I mean,
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Speaker 3: obviously the weather can start wildfires. That happens all the time. Also,
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Speaker 3: but like, no one's saying it, you know, did it
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Speaker 3: on purpose?
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Speaker 2: It's just yeah, exactly, and there will be some that
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Speaker 2: are set on purpose. There have been plenty of California
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Speaker 2: wildfires that were arson. Yeah. Again, that doesn't make it
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Speaker 2: a government plot. That just makes it arson, and it.
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Speaker 3: Doesn't make it apot. It doesn't make it a plot
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Speaker 3: by climate activists or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a hard sell in terms of
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Speaker 2: a theory for me, because what's the endgame there? Like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: with climate activists, I don't know if the people push
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Speaker 2: in this eco terrorist theory realize this, but most of
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Speaker 2: the world agrees with them, yes, yes, just these fringe
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Speaker 2: types who are making up this specific theory who don't right,
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Speaker 2: and in what world is setting a fucking Canadian wildfire
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Speaker 2: going to change these motherfucker's minds right exactly? Like this
46:49
Speaker 2: would accomplish nothing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I hate to break it to these guys,
46:53
Speaker 3: but no one's trying to change their minds anymore. We're
46:56
Speaker 3: just waiting for them to die. Yeah, It's that's really
47:00
Speaker 3: all we can do at this point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's become a lost cause. Yes, And so, as
47:05
Speaker 2: we mentioned before, a lot of the speculation here involves
47:09
Speaker 2: a video that shows a bunch of fires in Quebec
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Speaker 2: starting all at once and is that weird? No, it's
47:17
Speaker 2: actually not that weird. This is a very brief explainer
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Speaker 2: video from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. It is a meteorologist
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Speaker 2: explaining why it looks like these fires all started at once.
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Speaker 4: Here goes some of you may have seen it, the
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Speaker 4: visible satellite imagery looped so that it looks like all
47:37
Speaker 4: the Quebec fires started at the same time. This is
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Speaker 4: actually really common imagery when it comes to lightning ignited wildfires,
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Speaker 4: and the explanation has everything to do with meteorology. So
47:47
Speaker 4: when a front rolls through bringing those lightning strikes, that's
47:50
Speaker 4: the spark for new fires. But those thunderstorms often come
47:53
Speaker 4: with rain, so that means these fires are smoldering at first.
47:57
Speaker 4: But because this year our fuels in this area were
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Speaker 4: so particularly dry, they can sort of hunger down until
48:04
Speaker 4: the right trigger comes into play, and that trigger is
48:06
Speaker 4: often daytime heating and the diurnal impacts of afternoon winds
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Speaker 4: kicking in. Once that dryness reaches that critical point, all
48:14
Speaker 4: the fires are able to spread at the same time,
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Speaker 4: being picked up by the afternoon winds that supply oxygen.
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Speaker 4: It's those same winds that causes that smoke to spread.
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Speaker 2: So that was Joanna Wagstaff, meteorologist with CBC News, explaining
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Speaker 2: why your precious fucking video of five fires starting at
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Speaker 2: the same time Quebec are in fact not proof that
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Speaker 2: the cabal is shooting Jewish space lasers right Anada to
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Speaker 2: force you to move to a fifteen minute city.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Olivia, you know I believe this. That makes sense.
48:53
Speaker 3: I don't know what else to say. Like, and also,
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Speaker 3: like I wish I lived in a fifteen minute city, Jesus.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds amazing.
49:02
Speaker 3: Have you ever looked at like a Dutch neighborhood? They're
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Speaker 3: fucking gorgeous.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. That's why, Like, even like a downtown area is
49:09
Speaker 2: nice in some places because the way they construct them,
49:13
Speaker 2: you got everything you fucking need. Yep, Madison, Wisconsin State Street.
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Speaker 2: That's got to be a fifteen minute yeah city and
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Speaker 2: a situation you know what sucks.
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Speaker 3: Everything fucking going places sucks. It sure does love to
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Speaker 3: be able to fucking have everything within a fifteen minute
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Speaker 3: walk of me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would be nice, especially as a person
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Speaker 2: who doesn't have a driver's license exactly. I would love
49:37
Speaker 2: to be able to walk everywhere. Absolutely, But in La
49:41
Speaker 2: you can walk almost nowhere. It's great.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awesome. Aren't you glad that the car companies
49:47
Speaker 3: pushed out to all the public transportation?
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Speaker 2: Well it's because we're all right wingers here and we don't.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
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Speaker 2: We don't allow fifteen minute cities in California.
49:56
Speaker 3: Cons Hollywood, So I think that's our episode.
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Speaker 2: We have exhausted all of the conspiracy theories about the
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Speaker 2: Canadian wildfires.
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Speaker 3: Talk about exhausted.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exhausted is the exact right word for it. Olivia,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining me as co host?
50:17
Speaker 2: What do we have to plug before we get out here?
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Speaker 2: Going back our last pre watch podcast, it's up and
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50:30
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Speaker 3: Nice.
50:33
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50:36
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50:50
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Speaker 2: you got to plug?
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Speaker 3: Other than that? You can find me on Twitter at
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Speaker 2: We'll all right, let's get out of here Olivia say
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Speaker 2: goodbye bye, goodbye everybody. We love you. People have a
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Speaker 2: you're frying to discass, to be destroying,