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Ep. 153 - Incantation (2022) · Frightmares

• 0:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, this one's gonna be.
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: Live as well.
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  Speaker 3: Uh No, we're no video cameras today. No, we're gonna
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: work on doing that for like all the next year.
• 0:50
  Speaker 3: But because I you should have seen how it was
• 0:53
  Speaker 3: set up. There's a lot of trouble shooting that has
• 0:55
  Speaker 3: to man, I gotta get tripods and extra lights and
• 0:58
  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of shit. I had it so jerry rigged.
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: It was so terrible. But that's the goal for next
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  Speaker 3: year is to try to go live at least once
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: a month or do like a like a live show
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  Speaker 3: that might be just different than the podcast. We could
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  Speaker 3: just go on the air and just have people on
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  Speaker 3: and talk about whatever the fuck we want. So uh no,
• 1:16
  Speaker 3: no live tonight, because yeah, that was a that was
• 1:19
  Speaker 3: so much work.
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  Speaker 2: Plus you basically has had to disassemble all of your
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: pristine collections.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I had to make boxes work, I had
• 1:29
  Speaker 3: to turn lights off, and I had it was it
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: was so then I had the lamps on the table.
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: Lamb lance on lamps on the table. Like one of
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  Speaker 2: the cameras was on I think what four funko pops.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, it was on the it was on
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  Speaker 3: the tall ones up there. Oh okay, yeah, and I
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  Speaker 3: had to angle them weirdly. It was. It was a
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  Speaker 3: pain in the ass, but hey, at least I know
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  Speaker 3: it works. Yeah, so it's good to know that we
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  Speaker 3: can do that going forward. But yeah, that's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: a whole lot of work. I'm gonna try to get
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  Speaker 3: that going for next year. Maybe we'll do Top ten
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  Speaker 3: of the Year live or something like that. But but oh,
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: there's my wife ten years later. Hey, your lights are on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: thank you, wife. Corey will be right back. Oh my god. Okay,
• 2:19
  Speaker 3: so welcome to episode one f three. My name is
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  Speaker 3: Austin Proctor. I'm your horse. Okay, that's Corey Johnson. He
• 2:26
  Speaker 3: just left the room. He'll come back and say hey O.
• 2:28
  Speaker 3: And we were also joined by one of our friends
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  Speaker 3: slash fans, that is Kyle. I can never pronounce your
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: last name. Yeah. Oh there's a heyo. So uh we.
• 2:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know how this episode came to be. I
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  Speaker 3: just remember Corey saying something about having you back on
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  Speaker 3: and doing it on for this movie, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, okay, then that's all it took for me
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  Speaker 3: to be like, yeah, let's do that. So uh.
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  Speaker 4: Like just said it it's like it's like a week
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  Speaker 4: ago or so. You just like hit me up.
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  Speaker 1: We're like, hey, we're doing I was like.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah. I was like, we're gonna do an
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  Speaker 3: episode and there's your co host Cory Johnson. Hey. So yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just came to be. Corey was like, let's have him
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  Speaker 3: on in this episode, and I was like, fucking bet.
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  Speaker 3: We're doing Incantation today, which is a brand new found
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  Speaker 3: footage Taiwanese films, the Taiwanese Yeah, it's Taiwanese. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: this is the second Taiwanese horror movie I've ever seen,
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  Speaker 3: first being The Sadness, which also came out this year.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. So it looks like they're kind of breaking
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  Speaker 3: out into like more mainstream Horne because this was also
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  Speaker 3: a Netflix original, so that's pretty awesome. They seem to
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: be stepping up their games slightly recently with what they're
• 3:45
  Speaker 3: putting out. So we're gonna get to that in a
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  Speaker 3: little bit, and boy do we have a lot to
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  Speaker 3: say about it, because I'm not even sure no one
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  Speaker 3: on this fucking show right now knows exactly what happened,
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  Speaker 3: So we might spoil this, we might not. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: it's just so dense. It's yeah, it's very very heavy.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'll be able to like explain some of
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  Speaker 4: it to y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know if I got.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, maybe maybe between all three of us we can formulate, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what's going on in the movie. See.
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  Speaker 2: And so here was my problem is the first time
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  Speaker 2: I watched it because I was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I just want to watch this for fun.
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  Speaker 3: So I made it super atmospheric. I shut off all
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  Speaker 3: the lights to turn the volume way up, and it
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  Speaker 3: got super fucking.
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  Speaker 2: High, and that made it god damn impossible to follow.
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  Speaker 2: So I was watching it on the second watch through,
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  Speaker 2: but then I was up against time, so it was like,
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  Speaker 2: god damn it. Now I'm like worried about the time too,
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  Speaker 2: So it was kind of I.
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  Speaker 3: Was like three fourths of the way attention fair, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm taking notes to remember shit. So I'm paying as
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  Speaker 3: much attention as I can and having to pause a
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  Speaker 3: lot because it's found you know, it's in another language,
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  Speaker 3: so I have to like pause right down the thought
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  Speaker 3: real quick and then play again. So much exposition, there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot. Exit's so much amo two hour movie we're
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  Speaker 3: talking here all right, three minutes Away. It's a two
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  Speaker 3: hour long movie, so it's a longer one. But uh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we will get to that and all the craziness that
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: goes with that movie in a second. But apparently, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Kyle's been watching some shit. Apparently, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if you've been watching some shit. So I've seen
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  Speaker 3: some things and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So I haven't been watching any horror recently. What I've
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  Speaker 2: been doing is I've been so months and months and
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  Speaker 2: months ago. Wesley was like, bro, A need look a
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  Speaker 2: list of movies. So I spent like two or three
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: days making him a list of like any type anytime, okay,
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  Speaker 2: just must things that I would consider like must see movies.
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: So you got like seven, and then you've got like
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: fucking fight Club, You've got cast Away, You've got Shindler's list,
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  Speaker 2: like like one hour photo like.
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  Speaker 3: Just nice, okay, the range of shit. And he was like, man,
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  Speaker 3: don't want to watch fu movie and night blah blah
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  Speaker 3: blah blah blah, hid so many spaces. WHOA?
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: So I sat him down. The other night we watched
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  Speaker 2: Lord of War, the Nicholas Cage movie.
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  Speaker 3: Man sounds familiar. I don't know if I can't remember
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  Speaker 3: if I've seen Nicholas Cage as an arms dealer in
• 6:17
  Speaker 3: the late eighties and early nineties.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think i've seen that playing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh it's so fucking good, Lord of War. Yeah it's
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  Speaker 3: Nick Cage, Jared Letto okay, Ethan Hawke, whoa, and I
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: forget the I forget the woman's name. Two thousand and five,
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  Speaker 3: fucking three and a half out of five on letterbox.
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  Speaker 3: It's so fucking good. H Bridget Manya Han, Bridget won
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  Speaker 3: Ahan mo Ahan Yeah. Oh from John Wick, John Wick
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  Speaker 3: two I robot Okay, all right. So this is about
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  Speaker 3: a globe trotting arms dealer in one of the deadliest
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  Speaker 3: war zones, struggling to stay one step ahead of the
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  Speaker 3: relentless interpool agent, his business rivals, and even some of
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  Speaker 3: his customers, who include many of the world's most notorious dictators. Finally,
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  Speaker 3: he must also face his own conscience. Okay, three point
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  Speaker 3: five seventeen years old. How the fuck have I never
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: seen this Cage too? And it's so great because, like
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: I would say, at least half of the movie is
• 7:21
  Speaker 3: internal Nick Cage monologue. This movie is straight up narrated
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  Speaker 3: by Nick cage Nick. It's so good. Actually he's not
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: super Nick cagey in this one, which is really strange,
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: like he's not his like, oh what he's he's very
• 7:40
  Speaker 3: he's very, very reserved in this one for what he
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  Speaker 3: is known for. Interesting. Okay, Lord of War, that's an
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  Speaker 3: I'm putting that on the list for sure to all
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  Speaker 3: the others, like a hundred things. I have anything else
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  Speaker 3: you've been watching? Oh no, not really, No, just I've
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  Speaker 3: I've been sucked into YouTube stuff down rabbit holes. Yeah,
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: it's always fun, man, the true crime, the ghosties, the
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: fucking TikTok mystery videos. It's it's a time suck. It's
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  Speaker 3: a black hole. You can doing that in waste four hours.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: That and I've gotten and I've i got sucked in
• 8:22
  Speaker 2: the SCP content. So s CP is this, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's stands for Secure, Contain and protect, okay. And and
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: basically it's this foundation that was started to secure uh
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  Speaker 2: and contain anomalies and protect the world.
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  Speaker 3: And there are small anomalies.
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: Such as a toaster with infinite toast, and then and then.
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  Speaker 3: There are entities that are so large they are like
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  Speaker 3: literal state, what the fuck? Like it's like a full
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  Speaker 3: on land mass.
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  Speaker 2: And basically it's it's this forum almost of people that
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  Speaker 2: like submit stories, but you submit the story in the
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  Speaker 2: format of like a lab report of somebody working at
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  Speaker 2: the foundation.
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  Speaker 3: This is like super and it goes so deep.
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  Speaker 4: Bro, It's sort of similar to like the back Rooms.
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  Speaker 3: I was just about to mention the back Room, And
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  Speaker 3: there's there's a whole other theory that the back Rooms
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  Speaker 3: itself is an SCP that's running rampant.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it goes, it goes so fucking deep, and
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  Speaker 5: the world is fucking weird, like and they're like two
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  Speaker 5: or three like fountain footage projects of SCP stuff.
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  Speaker 2: There's thousands of like text entries. You can go on
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  Speaker 2: YouTube and put on a ten hour video of just
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  Speaker 2: and we're we're talking, we're we're talking ten hours of
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  Speaker 2: one SCP. Like we're talking SCP number six two four two.
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  Speaker 3: There's that much time on their hands, ten hours of
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  Speaker 3: content of just that one thing. I don't even know
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  Speaker 3: what to say to that, even good creep. That's like
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: deep in the Internet and it and it's really not
• 10:22
  Speaker 3: it's so surface level. Oh okay, I've I've never heard
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: of that, never come across any of that, well, I
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: guess except for the back rooms. But I don't know
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: that that ship was related. Man. That's like some super
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: intense shit right there.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's it's a super fun time if
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: you ever want to get into it.
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know. That sounds like that sounds like a
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: full time job.
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: That sounds like a lot of a lot of work.
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: But it is interesting because I love shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and what's great is you can you can you
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  Speaker 2: can say. It's separated by categories. So there's like three
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: or four different classes of SCPSKA. There's like the the
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: non threatening ones, There's the aberrant ones that are like
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: kind of dangerous. Then there's a class called ketter that
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: you need like an entire squadron to go in and
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  Speaker 2: like neutralize because it will just rip any single human apart.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: And then there's like the apocalypse class where you like
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: you don't fuck with it because if you fuck with it,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna destroy the entire existence of everything.
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: This is what this is what he always brings to
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: this show, This nonsense that I love. I never heard
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: of this this before. You just come across this one
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  Speaker 3: day on YouTube, just going down a hole and you're like,
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: what the fuck is?
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: So I came across it actually not even one day
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube, like fucking ten years ago on YouTube.
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: So do you remember when the whole like Slenderman playthroughs
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: were popular. Yeah, so around that time SCP started happening,
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: and there was one game and it was like this
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: giant fucking deformed baby doll that would that would like
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: chase you every time your character blinked or it went
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  Speaker 2: out of your vision, it got closer and closer to
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: you every time, and then it just kind of spawned
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: off from there. It just sounds like creepy pastas to
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: me too, though, so but they're not all creepy pastas, just.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds like a like a like a form of
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: it or something like that. So some of them are
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: like very intricate, like, oh yo, this is where the
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: fucking pyramids came from type shit. Yeah, and then some
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: of it is hooky, spooky, okay, the Devil walks among
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: Us type type shit. So yeah, now just fun reads fun.
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: If you got ten hours, well there.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: Are certainly like seven minute ones, okay, but you you
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: can you can get it. You can get like hours
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: upon hours of content.
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'll have to look into that when I
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: have some spare time, because that sounds like a lot
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: of fun. Uh. Let's see. I watched for the so
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: I finally, well not finally like not. I was not
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: that I was trying to get to this asap, but
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: I watched the Resident Evil Welcome to Raccoon City movie
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: not that great, not and not that great. Have you
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: have you looked into any of the new Netflix Not
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: yet I have. I know. I keep hearing like amazing
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: things and then such shit things.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: Even Lance Reddick can't save it. And that's saying something
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: because that motherfucker is black Superman Man.
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I've heard. I've heard literally positive
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: negative things, and I mean I saw the rating on
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: this one too before I went in, so I wasn't
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: expecting anything great, but I was like by the end
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: of it, I was like, this is so dumb. I
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: was like, oh man, it's so stupid. I hate this movie.
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: So that one was dumb. Don't recommend that one at all.
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: I've been going through the Child's Play movies again because
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: I just got screen factories Child's Play one through three.
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: So I recently watched Bride of Chucky, which is one
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: of my favorites, and then last night I watched Seat
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: of Chucky, which is so god awful, but it's like
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: fucking it's also hilarious and there's some like great kills,
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: so it's like, I like it, but it's so bad
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: that tonight I'm watching Curse and then tomorrow gonna watch
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: Cult and then I'm finally gonna start the fucking Chucky
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: show because I own it. It's right back here. Yeah,
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: I forgot he had a show, yeah, which everyone heard.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: There's a show. It's on It's on param I think
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: it's on Paramount. Let me double check, but yeah, there's like.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: A news show.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It came out this year with the Don Manchini,
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: which is one of you know, the writers Slash. I
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: think he directed a couple of them. Jennifer Tilly's back,
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: Brad Dorf is voicing Chucky, and uh yeah, I've heard
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: nothing but amazing things. And it's had like eight episodes,
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: ten episodes something like that. But yeah, let me see
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: where's streaming, because they're already renewed for season two, so
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: that's gonna be here next year. But yeah, I'm gonna
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: finally check that out, because, like I said, I've heard
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: nothing about amazing things. Let's hope it doesn't go the
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: way of Ash Versus Evil did What do you mean
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: did something go wrong with that? Oh? Didn't they like
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: cancel it?
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome, Yeah, they did like three three seasons and
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: then like Santa Clarida Diet at us and they're just
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: like a right cliffhanger, Like cool, great, I guess I
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: won't fucking watch that anymore. Uh yeah, but I mean
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: I thought they did end it in a way that
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: wasn't as cliffhangary as Santa clari to Diet. But I
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: haven't watched it for that reason because I'm like, I
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: don't want to get into a show only like, you know,
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: three seasons. I just I can't do that. That's why
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: I haven't watched Santa Claria to Diet, because I know
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: that ends with a huge cliffhanger. Well, it's like why Netflix.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: The good thing.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: The good thing about Ash Versus Evil Dead is it's
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: kind of just Bruce Campbell doing his thing.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: That's true. So if you go into it.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: For just a serialized Bruce Campbell's show, it's great.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well, then maybe, and I think that's
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: on Netflix. By the way, Chucky is on Peacock streaming
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: with peak streaming on Peacock, and then season two premieres,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Oh shit, Season two premiers this year October fifth, So
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: there you go. Boom, yeah, boom about it being about
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: to boom? And then what else have I've been watching?
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: I saw something some new? Oh, Orphan first Kill. I
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: watched that yesterday on Paramount Plus. Fucking best. That is
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: like the best way to do a seat well prequel technically.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: But I don't know if you guys, did either of
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: you see that yet?
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: I saw it on watch it.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Did you see the first one either of you? Yeah,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: of course we've talked about Orphan. I can't remember. I
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: don't care. I mean I figured we had, I just can't.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I can't remember who's all seen that? But yeah, if
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: you remember the twist from that one, I was like,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: there's no way they can like match that twist, and
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: they did somehow, and I was like, yeah, I was like, oh,
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: all right, that's pretty good. So that's streaming on Paramount
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Plus right now. And like I said, it's just the
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: perfect way to do a sequel. And I really enjoyed it.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Me and Gab. We'll probably talk about it more next week,
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: but I have to make another fake email for another
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like six emails deep because like none of none
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: of them work on anything anymore.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Oh really? Yeah, yeah, that's what I've been watching recently.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: What about you, Kyle? You said you've had some Oh
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: and I also saw Beast, that new interest album movie.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Oh true, and it was pretty fucking awesome. I really
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: enjoy it. I want to watch that. It's got it's
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: got horror in the genre descriptions. It's like a horror
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: thriller action but yeah, fucking super solid movie kind of.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I did not expect it to be like that. Like
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: that good for me. So if you can check that
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: out on theaters, go check that out. Uh. So, Kyle,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: what have you? What have you been watching? Uh? This week?
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I started watching The.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Two thirteen Evil Dead nice, which was not as good
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: as I remembered it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Being still good. It's still good.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I just remember I saw that in theaters.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: I was like, this is like the best horror I've
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: ever seen at the time. Yeah, and now watched it again,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: I was like, man, only the girl that plays me
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: is the only one that can really act.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Everybody else pretty much.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Being to anybody fair fairy.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Like, the only thing that movie has got going for
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: it is the scares and the kills, which the crazy.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: And you know what's funny, Kyle is you said that
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: you saw it in the theaters, thought it was the
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: best ever, and then watched it again you were like, Oh,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it's it's good, but it's all right for me.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: I saw it in theaters and I was like, this
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: is a pile of horseshit. I hate this movie.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And then after rewatching it like one or two times,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I actually do appreciate this movie.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: I fucking love that movie. That's legit. If someone's if
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: someone's like recommendations for horror movies, I'm like, have you
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: seen the Evil Dead remake? No, go fucking watch that.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: That's like top of my list because I think it's
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: one of the greatest greatest remakes ever in my opinion.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I felt like, originally I thought it they were taking
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: it like a little too self serious, because I mean,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: it's fucking Evil Dead.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the part of Evil Dead is the camp
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: of Evil Dead, And that's why I liked it. I
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, they're playing it straight forward. I was like,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: they're not even leaning into anything. And see I was.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I was on my puritist like what yeah, yeah, puritist bullshit.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah yeah yeah, okay, so evil dead?
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: What else?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Last night I watched The thirteen carry which I.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Carry? Oh, the one with what's her doodle? Chloe Morrett? Yeah,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Grace Moretz, what do you think about that one?
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: So when I remember when I went to see that,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: I saw it in theaters with some friends and I.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Had never seen the original.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, I just went and saw that one, and then
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: I went home that night and watched the original.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Oh shit, Okay, that's the way to do it.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: To me, they're both like, it's just one takes place
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: in like the late seventies.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: One takes place twenty thirteen. Like they're both like equally great.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I feel that the remake gets shipped on a lot
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: because you know, Carrie is such a classic. It's Brian
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: de Palmer. He's like a phenomenal director, and you know,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: people just are very sensitive with certain remakes. I don't
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: think it's like a masterpiece by any means. I think
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: it's a good movie, you know, like I like the remake,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: but I'm also partial to Chloe Grace Moretz and I
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: think it's Julianne Moore was her mom. Like I love
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: both those actresses and putting them together I thought was
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: a great combination.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: But julian Moore killed it. I probably the best one
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: in the movie, honestly.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she played such a great crazy lady. So I
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: think that people kind of like, you know, shit on
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: movies a little too a little too easily, and you know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: they're kind of harsh. But like, I mean, it's a
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: pretty good movie. I mean there's a little bit of
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: wonky cg at the ending scene was great, like yeah,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: but it's also twenty thirteen. I mean maybe like even.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Like like the CGI, it's also it's I mean, you
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: can if you look at it like okay, yeah, clearly.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not bad.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not terrible. Yeah. That's when I own that
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: on Blue Ry. I own those two, and the only
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: one I haven't seen is there's a carry from two
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: thousand and two that I haven't seen.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw that last night when I was like
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: looking at stuff, I was like, did.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: You watch it?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: When no, no, I it was like the one.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: It was like the.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Seventy eight, twenty thirteen, two thousand and two. I was
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: like there was another one.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know they made it two thousand
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: and two. And then there's one called The Rage Carry Too,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: from like the nineties, so there's yeah, I haven't seen
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: that one. Yeah, I haven't seen that one either. I
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: heard that one was not great, but I haven't. I
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: still haven't seen the two thousand and two one, which
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: is something I need to do. But yeah, you don't
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: even realize that there's four carry movies sometimes until yeah,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: so until you're told, oh my god, to Carry from
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: two thousand and two is one hundred and thirty two minutes.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Oh my god. Oh that's so long. That's two hours
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: and twelve minutes. When you have the remake, which is
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: one hundred minutes, and then the original, which was ninety
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: eight minutes. So yeah, oh my god, one hundred and thirty.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: That's probably why people didn't like it that much. That's
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: too fucking long. That's pushing cloud Outlass Territory. No, that's
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: longer than Hereditary, and that's almost as long as like
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: the regular cut of Midsomar, Holy shit, man, and at least.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: In Hereditarian Midsommar, like there's active storytelling going on.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Ways, there's not one hundred and thirty two minutes worth
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: of Carry story anywhere like Jesus Christ. This is a
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: remake too, obviously. I don't even think the audio book
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: is that long. Oly, Yeah, that's Carry is a really
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: short book. Honestly, it's super short that I think that
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: was King's first book he wrote. But yeah, one hundred
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: and thirty two minutes. If you're not a new, brand new,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: original idea, you don't need to make a movie that long.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: That's a remake of and that's also a book too.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: There's already plenty of source teial out there. They probably
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: bet you, and I bet you didn't even get a
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: theatrical release. I bet you straight to video. Let's see
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: two point six for that one. What does the one
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: from twenty thirteen have two point five? Okay, so by
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: the you know, letterbox standards, those are about even. I
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: wonder if that other one is streaming anywhere. Probably not, No,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: it's not. I'll have to rent it. Whatever didn't you
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: say too before we went on air that you watched
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: the Sacrament recently for the first time.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched that, Like, so was it free? I
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: don't watch it on.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: I watched it on to b oh okay nice. Yeah,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: well we just did that one recently. What'd you think
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: of it?
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I give it like a three and a half. Like
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I thought the movie was like it was all right,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: like it's not bad in any way, but it's just
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: didn't just didn't work credible.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: The dude, the guy who was the father, Like, to me,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: the my favorite part of that movie was when they
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: like sit under the pavilion and.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Do the interview with the father.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: I was like, this dude killed.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah right, but Kyle tell me that we do
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: not know at least one preacher like that out in Murphy.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: But not even a mile away from one of those.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I went with a friend a few months ago.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not you know, I'm not a religious person,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: but I went to kind of like support a friend.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: They wanted me to go, and I went to a
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Baptist revival and it's a revival. It's they do not
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: mess around.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: And this dude was on Mike and I'm like, bro,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: you don't need a mic like you were just yelling
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: and I can hear you in the back here like chill.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: They got those deep, just booming voices for no fucking reason,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: and all those amps are cranked up to eleven. I know, right,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: that's funny. That's funny. You said that because Gabby watched
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: that one with me for the episode and she was like, man,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: this guy's given off real strong, like Southern Baptist preacher vibes.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I know, oh, I know, I've met
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: a couple of of that guy in my life, going.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Well, well, you know when you're copying Jim Jones that
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: you don't get much more Southern Baptist pretty seriously.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hell yeah, dude, Yeah, Sacrament's a good one. Anything
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: else that you've seen recently horror not doesn't have to
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: be specifically.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: The craziest one I definitely watched was because I've always
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: wanted to watch it, but it's never anything but I've
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: found it on two me and I watched the two
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: thousand and eight I believe Martyrs.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Who the French did not come here to fuck around.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Like the dude, they don't fucking fuck around with horror movies.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: It's like it's just kind of, you know, not too
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: crazy of an opening, but like, okay, there's some there's
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: something that's going on. They just touched to a normal
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: family and holes in people like just shot gun, just dead.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: This was one of the most like dramatic killings I've
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: seen in a movie. And I was like, oh my god,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: that just came out of nowhere.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Because we we did the original for a Foreign Frights,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: didn't we No, Me and my buddy Chris did that one.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: We did, Yeah, we did Martyrs. That was when I
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: was still actually watching along What do you mean watching
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: one so like like on episodes that I wouldn't be on,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I used to like try and watch the movies. Oh
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: my god. Then that was like four and six movies over.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Oh my god. You know what's really funny, speaking of
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: doing all those movies, we did what we do in
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: The Shadows last episode, and I was going through all
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: the movies we did because I add to a master
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: list so that way I know if we've done a
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: movie without having to strain myself. We already fucking reviewed
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: that movie. Like way back on episode forty three, which
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: was called like bat to the Bone, it was a
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: vampire episode, so uh. We that's the first time we've
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: accidentally double dipped on movies there, so, but I mean, uh,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: you know that was that was like a hundred episodes ago.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: So speaking of whatever, speaking of what we do in
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: the Shadows, have you seen any of the show?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we're we're caught up with whatever
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: season it's on now for I think I just recently
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: started it. Oh did you so where are you? Where
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: are you out in the story? Like second episode? Oh? Okay, yeah,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: but I'm good, I'm already like this is so fucking good. Yeah,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: and it only honestly, it just it's like the same
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: level throughout the entire series. It's just it's just good,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it is solid, fucking calmed.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: But that's that's.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Ship.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: It's just ridiculous. How how fucking great that man is
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: it writing and like directing things. Obviously he doesn't write
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: and direct every episode, but he does. He is a
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: producer of the show.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Was going off, this is going off horror? But did
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: you ever watch this movie? Jojo Rabbit?
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't get I didn't get it. I
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, I know it was supposed to be
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: a satire on the whole thing, but like, at least
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I love that movie. Yeah, it was.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: It was so deep in satire that I was like,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't get it.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I like, I appreciate.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: The jokes were funny, the jokes landed, but there was
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: just something about the movie that I was just.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, that's when I need to like rewatch to
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: like maybe I miss something. I don't know, but I wasn't.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: That's like the only thing I wasn't that big on
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: that he's done. I was like, it was good, but
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know. Yeah, so I don't know.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: I saw it in theaters and I know I went
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: into it. I'm like, oh, this is gonna be great.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna love this movie because it's like I loved
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: everything He's ever done, and I was like, yeah, it
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: was good, but like, I don't know, it's just something
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: that didn't have that like factor like that. I don't know.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: It's so hard to explain, but I'm right there with
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: you because I don't know what it is about it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I just wasn't as into it as I thought I
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: would be, which just surprising. But yeah, that's one thank
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: you for reminding me about that, because I need to. Actually,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Kyle just likes it because it's his people's revenge. Jesus,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: we put that on my list. I don't fucking forget.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so double dipping on episodes, let's not do
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: that anymore. We're not double dipping on this one. I
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: can tell you that because this is brand new for
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: this year and I'm super excited about this one, and
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: hopefully we can make some sense out of it, because,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: like I said, you get a reveal, like you know,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: right at the end of the movie, and you're like, Okay,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I understand what this means, but then I still have
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: so many other questions like what are the caterpillars? And
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: and and what's super weird is the story is framed
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: in such a way that halfway through the movie they
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: could have very easily just ended the movie with that
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: as an ending, and it would have been like, all right, cool,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: there's my happy essing, like wash our hands, move on,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: and then the second half could have been a completely
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: different fucking movie, probably a prequel to the first half
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: of the movie. So it's it's a very segmented, strange
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: way that the story goes on, but it's great. Yeah,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I also found these storytelling a bit chaotic and jumpy.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: It all over the place was.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: But I think that was more in line of hey
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: keep let's keep these people's attention, like hey, hey, hey, hey,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: pay attention.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Watch me look over here area.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: So so that was because you know, I know with
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: found footage, I have I know, some people you know,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: kind of skip the walking scenes like fast forward fifteen seconds.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: I don't need that conversation. So with this way of editing,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: it kind of forces you to not do that. Yeah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: that's fair.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: I like too, with the with the cunning back and forth,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: like for at least from what I remember, it was
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: like it's like okay, it just cut back like a
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: few years or whatever. But it's it's to explain what
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: you just.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Saw, like how they're connected.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: But then sometimes it cuts back to a different scene
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: and it they're not connected.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, we're just past this now.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah it was. It was a really weird way
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: to do it. And usually know with found footage, you
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: know this is we love found footage and we love
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: reviewing it. It's but it's it was, it's it felt
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: different than I don't know, to me, did it just
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: feel a little different than most It so felt like
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: it was kind of not like, not formulaic. It definitely
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: was not formulaic at all.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: It was almost like somebody was trying, let me see
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: if I let me see if I can make what
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the way I'm thinking this makes sense? Okay, So it
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: was like somebody was trying to make a found footage movie.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Out of a set of documentary film pieces and a
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: video journal. Yeah, like it was it looks like two
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: separate things that should be not together, that are in
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: the same area that somebody said, Hey, I'm gonna make
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: a movie out of that. Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like something that at least
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: the way it works in my mind, like what can
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: sometimes happen with a found footage films, Like I remember
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: reading them for like Blair Witch Project, they shot like
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: twenty hours worth of footage and then you know they
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: don't use hour and a.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Half or however long the movie is. I think that
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: sometimes with founthletics. I feel like there was like Winter.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Two Shots where I kind of saw this where like
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: there's like win or two shots where I was like
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: that wasn't a good shot, like why was that even?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: And then then I'm like is it because like that
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: was just the best shot they got.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Like maybe, and they're just trying to piece it together
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: as best as they can, Like I actually remember reading
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: there was some scene uh oh, yeah, this.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Is what the Blair Witch product that.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: So there was some part where they like when they
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: went out of the tent, they're supposed to like turn
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: to left and you actually suppose to see the witch,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: but the person never turned left and they just never
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: reshot it, so you never got.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: To see the witch what.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: You were gonna show it, and then you just fucked
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: it up, like okay.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: And then they yeah, they made it even. They made
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: it more mysterious because they never showed the witch at all,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: so not seeing her at all is more scary than
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: seeing her, and they probably just left it that way,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: which is funny because that's something that people did not
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: like about the remake, is because they showed the witch
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: at the end and people were like so off. They
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: were like, yeah, like it's.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Well, that's that's some of the best bits of the
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Blair Witches. You never see her or you see her
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: in the corner in the final frame. And the shadow,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: and it's the mythos of oh maybe you can see
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: her if you pause the movie at just the right moment,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: that it makes it that extra little bit of fun
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: fair and it it's the immersion that brings you into
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: the movie. Yeah, and I didn't like the twenty sixteen
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Blair Witch for a whole.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Litany of other reasons. Oh okay, fair like that.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I never saw that because I was like, this
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: is one of those like you're not gonna make do
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: a remake and somehow make it better.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: You're just not.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: No, no, So it's not a remake, it's a requel. Yeah,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: it's like, uh.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's right.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I never saw it.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, here's the thing. I'm like one of
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: the few defenders of that movie. I enjoyed.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: No, here's the thing is, it's a fun time. The
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: visuals are fantastic. That fucking tense scene is great.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: That someone gets snapped in half. I'm like, oh yeah, no, no,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: the visuals are great, but the entire setup as to
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: why is so paper thin. Like, I mean, it works,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: but it's also yeah, I mean it just doesn't really
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: work at the same time, but I mean I don't know,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: it's definitely better. Have you seen Grave Encounters two? Yes,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: at least we can say it's better. That is so dumb.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: I love Grave Encounters one and then they did the
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: second one.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: I also love Grave Encounters one, but Grave Ncounters one
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: is also super dumb.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: What do you really? What do you the whole fucking
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: why is it dumb?
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Because he's actively being Zach Baggins. That's the point. I know.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: That's why hurting that ship, I know, I know, but
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: that's why it's it's it's I'm not saying it's bad dumb. Oh, okay,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: but it's dumb. Oh yeah, No, for sure, I love
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: that one. But yeah, the whole setup is completely silly
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: because the second I saw these, like, I'm Lance pressed
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: and I was like, you're Zach Baggan, motherfucker dress, You're
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Zach Baggan's playing someone trying to play Zach Baggans. That's
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: what you're doing. So found footage. Yeah, so you didn't
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: like Blair wedg. You haven't seen Blair Witch? You have
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: any intention on seeing the remake of Blair requel of
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Blair Witch.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Kyle, not really? I mean I remember when I heard
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: it was like, wow, that's.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Has anybody at this at this podcast scene Book of Shadows? Yes, Okay,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I haven't. Oh it's is it bad at all?
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: I remember actually watching like a little bit a little
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: bit of it one on TV, and I mean, like.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: No, bro, no it's not fund footage. No, it's not
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: found footage. Bro. We rented it. We rented that ship
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: from Ingles.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: I'm sure I don't really remember, but I'm sure we
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: did at some point.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Geez, that's like fucking Last Exorcism, Last Exorcism found footage,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Last Exorcism Part two not found footage. You're like, you're
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: taking away the best part of this movie? What are
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: you doing? Wow? Why didn't they do? What's with that?
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: It's just like that's always one of those things with Hollywood.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I never understand.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: It's like, hey, you know how like the main thing
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: with this movie that.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: It was found footed it seemed real.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Let's just throw that like.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: That's the whole gimmick of this movie and why it
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: seems so real? Why would you take that away?
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: No?
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Normal Activity too was not like on home cameras you'd
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: be like what yeah.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Or the next new one that's coming out, They're not
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: gonna do found like found footage style, and you're like,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: you have seven movies that are found footage style, why
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: would you take that away? Yeah, I've never understand that.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: That makes no sense. So I guess we should maybe
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: get into this and talk specs and get into I
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: don't know, I don't even know how we're gonna talk
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: about that. We can't talk about this in a linear
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: way because it's fucking chaos. There's like three I I mean,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: we we could very easily if we wanted to break
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: this down chronologically to try and make it make sense.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: The story, like the overarching how the movie happens won't
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: make sense, but the story and the lore behind it
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: will make sense. Well, yeah, so it really depends on
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: how we want to explain it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Once I read to explain it is like you can
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: explain it fairly simply kind of well, unless you don't
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: get in depth.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean we can get We'll just get
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: in depth because like I said, I don't well, I mean,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: we're definitely gonna do some spoilers today, but I don't
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: even know, you know, like it's like I don't even
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: know exactly what happened, fully, because it's very like you know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: like Corey said, it's very dense. So I just say,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: we just talk about it as much as possible.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: If you don't want, you want me to like kind
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: of explain it really quick, or do you want to
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: just like just do a clog.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna read the IMDb stuff real quick and then
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: we'll just I'll like, I'll do like a little introduction
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: of the movie, like the little beginning part about the
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: whole beleeving and a blessing thing, and then we'll just
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: like we'll just go We'll just wherever the conversation takes this.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I have a I have a fun thing about that
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: that sequence too, in the very beginning. Okay, when we
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: get there, So then I'll say that, and then you
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: can say your thing, and then Kyle can just explain
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: everything and hopefully it'll all make sense between the three
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: of us. Okay, so we're talking incantation from this year,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: which this movie was released July eighth, so last month,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: so it's very new and fresh. I can remember seeing
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: like promos for this, and someone eventually on the Found
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Footage group was like it's coming to Netflix, and I
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: was like Netflix.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, the Poska the poster was circulating in like
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: two or three groups that I was in like about
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: a week and a half maybe.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Two before it came out, and everybody's like, nobody knows
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: where it's going. It's going to shutters, going to Netflix,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: It's going to HBO, blah blah blah blah blah, and
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: then all and then all of a sudden, it was
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: just a wall mega thread.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Uh it was the Incantation Mega Thread. The title said
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Incantation Mega Thread.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: It's on Netflix, by the way, Yeah, so that's on Netflix.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Just came out rated TVMA for no sex and nudities,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: severe violence and gore, moderate profanity, no alcohol, drugs and smoking,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: and severe and frightening or severe frightening and intense scenes
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: runtime of an hour. I think it was fifty one
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: at least that's what it's said, or maybe it's like
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: an hour fifty in like thirty two seconds. Listed as
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: a straight up horror that is it, nothing else. Directed
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: by a man named Kevin Coe who has only six
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: directing credits and also did Invitation Only, Doomsday, Reverse, and
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Ah Chew, whatever those movies are. I am sorry for
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: all the name butchering I'm about to do. I apologize
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Everybody written by Chie Wee Chang who has one writing
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: credit for this movie, Kevin co who has two writing
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: credits and also did Doomsday Reverse. So these guys are
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: pretty fresh to making movies, which is impressive because this
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: was very good. Composed by a man named Rocket Lee
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: who has eight composer credits. Also did the tag along
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: one in two and Dad Suit. Again, don't know what
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: these are, but this is what they're famous for. So
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: someone out there, I'm sure listening to this mayor may
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: or may not know. Hopefully you do. Coach En Chen
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: did the cinematography twenty cinematographer credits. Also did the tag
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: along Shuttle Life and The Bold, The Corrupt and the
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Beautiful sounds like a playoff of The Bold and Beautiful,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: so you can see these guys have worked together before,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: which is pretty cool. Oh my god, I don't even
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: want to try to pronounces. I'm just I'm really just
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: gonna butcher them. Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: do this. I'm just not gonna do it. I don't
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: I don't like so I'll try the uh the name. Okay,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: it's only it's only one person that was the only
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: one that had any sort of like you know what
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: I mean. Yeah, because there's so many other people in
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: the movie. I was like, I don't know who else
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: to put on this. Her name is Husisai. Yeah, I
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: don't know why it says Ruo nan. It was it
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: was Lee Ronan, right, yeah, Lee Roan. She has a
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: living at acting credit and was also in a few
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: other things. What's up, dude?
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: No, no, sorry, Oh I thought you were.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Saying something bad. Had an estimated budget of forty five
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: million in t which is the new Taiwan dollar. One
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: dollar of their money is thirty four cents of our money,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: so about one point five million US dollars. Uh, no
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: box office because it went straight to Netflix. It was
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: filmed in Taiwan, and you can watch this on Netflix.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Like I just said, And what the thing I think
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: is amazing for a one point five million.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Dollar movie, Like they made that shit work. Yeah, I mean,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: like this movie is got a goddamn delight to look at.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Like the effects, Oh yeah, great, the shots are great.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: It's it's just all super nice.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: That was one thing I like, one of my favorite
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: things I was watching. It was like, man, even like
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: the dark scenes was just a flash. I was like, man,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: even like the lighting with this flash, Like they had
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: the lighting like on point.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Which is like super like not which is uncommon and
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: found footage you're like looking into a fucking dark alley
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: where you're like, I don't know what that's supposed to be.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: So yeah for them to be you know that good
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: on quality with because you're now that you say that, Yeah,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it, and yeah, every scene was lit
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: pretty damn well.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: There was just you know, like sometimes you watch like
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: a found footage and you're like, man, I can't see
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: anything like, which is like, you know, sometimes on purpose,
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: but but this one is like you don't show you
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: everything like like it's not like you know, there's scenes
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: that are very fairly dimly lit, like you could still
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: see enough.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like they just got it perfect.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I have to agree with that. I didn't
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: even really realize that it was just so easy to watch.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't really know. I didn't have a hard time
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: so and the other thing, the other thing I really
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: appreciate is they have a very mild usage of the
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: night vision. They don't I think they use it maybe
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: like three three day. They don't.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: They don't blast it in your eyes because some of
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: those found footage in the wood creepy village type shit,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: and like half of it is in that night vision
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: or that gray scale infrared, and it's just like.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: It just hurts my eyes. Yeah, it hurts my brain.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: It's like I can see what's going on, but now
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: my brain has to like parse on additional an additional filter.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have to like look away at this
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: like the ceiling for a second to reset my eyes.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Like it's like a little bit of a cop out,
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: because it just it does make stuff look creepier, so well.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it also it also hides effects a lot
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: easier too, so because when you when you scale everything
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: to one color, now all we have to do is
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: fucking pain over it, and it's way easier. Yeah, Like
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: the ending shot of Quarantine, the big you know, Doug Jones,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: the thin infected man. Yeah, I don't think he's I
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: don't think he's CG. But you could tell that that's
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: why they did it in that night vision, because they
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: were just trying to you know, not you know, it
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: just make it look a lot more coherent, I guess.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: So that's funny that you say that, because yeah, that
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: shit has used a lot, and they didn't use that
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: in this. Everything was lit very well, even when they
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: were only supposed to have like, you know, flashlights on
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: them or whatever. Damn now I'm thinking about that. That
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: movie was fucking lit so well. I didn't realize that. Yeah,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking about all these shots at night, like
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: when they went to the tunnel and shit, I'm like,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: that shit was lit so well. How did they do that? Yeah?
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: For a million and a half dollars they made that shit.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: They really stretched that budget right there. But I mean,
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: you know, found footage is usually cheaper anyways. I mean
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: I think they did Paranormal Activity for like a million dollars.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is obviously as much better production quality. Oh,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: i'd say, because you know, that was all I think.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: I think probably most of that money went to fucking
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: location permits. Probably, Yeah, so insurance because that fucking tunnel.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Oh you think any any actual actor is getting in
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: that tunnel without being like, yo, you're paying me ten
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: You're paying ten K for just getting in this bitch. Yeah,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing this shit for free. Uh So yeah,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: watch it on Netflix. Movies that came out are on
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: the same time. I mean they're they're you know, it's
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: in shit in theaters now. So we've got black phone,
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Elvis Gray Man, Nope, bodies, bodies, bodies, bullet train, prey,
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: they them and fall. That's the stuff that's out right now.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: All right, So Corey's specific horror moment of the movie.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Did you have one? And if so, what was it? Oh? Man,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: we should all know what my specific horror moment was.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Was it the jump scare? No? Was it the guy
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: getting hit by the car? No, I don't know that.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's gonna be this every time it happens
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: in a movie.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's the fucking infinite circle when they're driving down
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: the street and.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Then oh yeah, and they passed the telephone pole, and
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: then they passed the mirror, and then the radio starts.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Playing news snippets of what they're passing and where it
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: actually came from, and it's like this whole otherworldly shit
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: and it's amazing. Yeah, it's like they got caught in
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: like a time loop where they just keep going down
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: the same stretch of road. Shit was pretty good my
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: where to go? Yeah, a specific horror moment that jump
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: scare around at one hour and twenty one minutes flew
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: off the couch. I was like, oh shit, I didn't.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: I knew it was I knew it was coming, but
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: like I didn't know what was coming it but met
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: me up and the setup for it, Like the setup goes, Okay,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: you know this is gonna happen. Yeah, you know, but
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: but I'm not gonna tell you when.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Wait uh, because this might be the same as mine.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Is it the part where everyone's like stand outside and
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: they have the letters on them and then it pans
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: over or is this when the the person runs at
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: the camera.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's when it's when lady is facing the opposite
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: way of the camera and Adam Chen Yeah, and then
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: just fucking is in front of the camera with then
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: oh my god, I was I knew it. I knew
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: it was coming. Like you said, I'm like, it's gonna happen.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know how how severe or what's gonna happen.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Then it happened, and I was like.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Why, That's why that one didn't get me, because like
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: I'm meeting I was like, okay, this person that the
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: right of the camera. The one that got me was
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: when I was just talking about where they're standing and
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: they're all.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Like the people that are tattooed.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: And also it pans over and it's the old woman
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: and it's like I knew something was gonna happen, but
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: that's still got me.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: So that's why that's mine.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like all those creepy guys just staring
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: at the camera just like mumbling incoherently. I was like, no,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: that's that's an instant no for me. Y'all were just
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: in there like doing weird circles and chanting shit. No,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I'm good. Favorite kill did you have one? If so,
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: what was it? Corey? You know, probably my favorite kill was, uh,
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: the the two just non character cops at the very beginning, Yeah,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: you know, true for no reason, just to show that,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: like like chaos was following the main character. That was
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: the only reason they showed that.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, because it gave me very very like
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: ring vibes. Oh because they watched the video.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's almost like a little homage to like
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: a different movie. And I was like, you know what,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: hell yeah, and then you never hear anything about those
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: two characters ever. Again, every other death that happens has
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: massive consequences.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: And like you care. But these two characters specifically, it's
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: like they got brought in and they're like, oh, we're
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: gonna be the cops of the movie.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah. And then they come in and they're like
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: one line is gun in mouth, boom, done and they're
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: sent away for the day. And they had to be
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: so upset. Here you go, you're done for the day.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: I was here for five minutes. What the fuck favorite
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: kill for me? I don't know. I know his name.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys. It's the main guy,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: like the guy that owns the Foster care place. His
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: name is Ming and it's when he just bashed his
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: fucking skull in. I was like, wow, okay, that was
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: some hardcore shit right there.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: That's that same for me. That was mine.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know why that like, you know when
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: it happens in the hereditary.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime that happens, you're like fuck man.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Nor post like it. Yeah, I don't know why that.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Sort of thing specific is like God, it's just like
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: it just you feel it happening.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Well, no, no, I can explain to you exactly why
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: that specific thing hits you that way, because look at
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: your table right now and and slam your head on
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: it as hard as you can because your body's gonna
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: be like, fuck, no, I'm not gonna do that. So
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: it's you're watching something that your body automatically overrides you
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: to not do. Yeah, so you're like, ooh, what if.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: That happens to me, like subconsciousness, your brains, your brain's
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: going no, don't.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Do that, don't do it. And fucking I also, I mean,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: I know it's it's a movie and they're not actually
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: doing that, but it's like, how do they make that
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: look so real? Because I know they're smashed and because
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: like in this movie he smashed his face down and
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: then he pulled his head up and there was blood.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: And then I'm like, how do you fucking fake that,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: like without actually like hitting your head down on the
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: fucking desk. So not even the fact that it's just scary,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: it's like, how are they pulling this off to make
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: it look so goddamn real to me?
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: To me, that's always like I need to look up
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: how this is done, because it always always me when
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: like someone is in the scene and the camera's on
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: them for a little bit and then like a couple
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: of seconds later, blood comes out of their nose.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, how did you make it? Waight?
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: Fuck? Oh?
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, how do you do this shit? It's
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: probably so simple and it's easy to do, but I
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: just don't know how it's done, and it blows my mind.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I would assume nowadays, So y'all know what squib packs are, right?
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: No, So squib packs.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Whenever you see like somebody on TV or in a
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: movie gets shot and the blood looks like it's exploding
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: out of their chest, yeah, not like away from their
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: body like a normal gunshot would, that's a squib pack.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: It's it's a little it's almost like a catchup packet
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: with a little tiny explosive on it, and they strap
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: it to you and it pops and it makes blood
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: go everywhere.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know this. I knew I what those
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: are just sitting on the So I.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Would assume that they probably have like a little tiny
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: capsule that has just a little vent on it that's
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: like radio controlled that they just pop up in their
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: nose and they hit a button and it just drips.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Fucking or CG. Who knows. At this point, I don't
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: know if it was CG there's some good assg Yeah,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: so yours was the same. I didn't really have a
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: favorite character, at least favorite character, to be honest, if
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: I had to, like, no, I didn't really hate anybody
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: in this but uh, if I had a favorite character,
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: probably be mean because he seemed like he was the
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: most wholesome. He was also my favorite character. Okay, then
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: I was like, bro, you you went from excuse me,
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: excuse me.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: You went from the stereotype of not fuck you, y'all crazy,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: none of this is real, bye to viewing the evidence.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: And in spite of going, you know what, this is
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: fucking dangerous, You're like, I'm a fucking help this kid.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a fucking help this kid's mom. I'm a
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: good dude. Yeah he's a good dude. Like he's just
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: this overall just solid person. So that I don't know
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: that would be my favorite. Did you have a favorite
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: or least favorite Kyle character?
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: I probably, I mean, I'm with you on meing like,
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: and he was certainly like the best out of it all.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I mean I liked.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, I liked her
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: and I didn't like her, and then in the end
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: I liked her because she did what she needed to
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: to save her daughter. But I was I was going
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: back and forth with her. I was like, you such
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: a piece of shit, but also you're not can't make
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: up my mind on you. But then again, you can
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: also argue that because of a piece of information that
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: shared like three quarters of the way through the movie,
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: that she may not even totally be in control of
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: her actions the entire time. That is true, So it's
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: a whole unreliable narrator things. We don't know what she
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: is and is not actually doing. I know, yeah, it's
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: like I don't know. I seriously and hopefully we can
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: kind of figure this movie out together as we discussed it,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: because I still have so many questions. But IMDb summary
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: is six years ago, Lee Ronan was cursed after breaking
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: a religious taboo. Now she must protect her daughter from
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: the consequences of her actions. And it starts off with
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: like her just doing a voice over asking about and
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: it's like she's talking to you, you know, It's it's weird,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: it's it's very personal. It's very personal, and it feels
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: meta because she's it's like she's personally talking to you
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: because she's asking you do you believe in like you know,
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: birthday wishes safe travel, which is in like wishing a
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: merry Christmas. And then she goes on to say, we
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: all believe our intentions can bring good outcomes, but did
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: you know intentions can really change outcomes? And then she
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: does this experiment. I'm sure everyone has seen this at
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: some point in their life. It's the picture or it's
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: like a gift of a moving train and you can
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: like control it. So this was my fun fact about
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: that that specific gif of the ferris wheel and the train,
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: those are not the originals. Those are altered to change
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: when her voice is saying left right, like it didn't
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: change on mine, They change it, and I had to
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: force myself to like change them. It was so they were.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Changing when she said left and right on mine, and
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: what I was doing was I was pausing it.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: I had, I had, I.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Took sticky notes and I cut them into little slivers,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: and I put one on when she said right, and
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: then I put one on when she said left, and
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: they were in different spaces.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: See then this then this just it proves this point
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: even more because like I, it didn't do that for me.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: I had to, like I was watching it, and then
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: I had to like be like left, like fucking go
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: and then it would change. It did not change with
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: her voice for me. What about you, Kyle?
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: I mean I felt like I was doing it with
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: my mind, but uh, I mean honestly I could see
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: that being just another like mind fuck of the movie
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: and like making it think that you are doing it.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because like like I because I watched it. I
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: watched it twice. Uh, and it didn't do it either
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: time for me. And like I said, I had to
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: like really think hard with the train one. Though I've
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: seen that one a million times and I that one
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: I can do anytime, but that I'd never seen that
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: Ferris Wheel one. I was having a hard time like
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: getting it to do whatever. So maybe that feeds right
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: into the movie then, because talking about intentions and all
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: that stuff, So who knows at this point, Like I
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: don't know if it was following her voice or not,
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: but it's weird that we both had completely separate experiences
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: with that. So she's talking about how intentions shaped the
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: world and how blessings work and all that stuff, and
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: then she goes into saying how she violated a terrible taboo.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Now if you don't know what a taboo is, a
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: taboo is a social or religious custom prohibiting or forbidding
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: discussing of a particular practice, or forbidding association with a
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: particular person, place, or thing. So it has to do
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: with religion. And honestly, what did she fucking do? I
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: don't even remember what did she do? She went into
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: the tunnel, Okay, that's what I thought.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so the tunnel is sealed from the inside
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: and outside. Yeah, sealed from the inside mirrors, so from
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: the outside with fucking wood.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, so that was what she did. We'll get to
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: that in a second. And then shows the the people
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: in the car about and then she's talking about a
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: deity and then they get hit by the car and
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: that's when that guy gets hit by the semi and
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: then those two people are never in the movie again
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: or mentioned about. And then Lego's that's her parents. That's
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: her parents. Yeah, oh shit, I didn't even realize that.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: I must have missed that. My bad. Okay, So that's
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: her parents.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: But then what also just just a quick thing I
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: think also with like the whole you know, she messed
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: with a taboo.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: That whole aspect. I think also the.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: Fact that like when they get there and they like
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: don't want her to come because it's supposed to be
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: a family thing.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I assume that just adds into like you're not even
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: supposed to be here, So.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's happening bro Well, So not not only that taboo,
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: but she also uses Dom's name, so that's a taboo.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Not only that, but the information that we're given from
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Madam Chang about uh Lee is that her mother did
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: something that never got fulfilled. So that's another taboo.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: It's just fucking taboo on taboo on taboo, greed that
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: just fucking compress into megacurse.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Which is what happened on the Dido. I know it's
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: that's how you shave. I'm just gonna say, yeah, Dodo
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: which is her, which is her daughter. So yeah, okay,
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: so I'm already understanding this a little bit better. Already.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: I like this. And Lee also says says in like
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: her little monologue, she talks about the more you understand
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: the curse, the more it plagues you. And she's making
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: this video because she hopes to help everyone you know
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: out there and she wants to resolve her daughter's misfortune.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: If the viewers willing to stay, they must look at
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: this symbol and have it memorized and then recite the
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: text with her on screen. So this literally gave me
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: ring vibes, except like the making of the movie that
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: you have to watch to get the seven day curse. Yeah,
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: I got that immediately, and I'm like, this feels like
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: you're roping me into this to like past, there's something
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: on to me, And I was kind of right, but
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: still I don't know fully what happened.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: So and it's really funny because in like Chinese culture,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: there's like one of the things in their culture is
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: like a lot of stuff is passed socially. Yeah, so
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: like monsters and curses, a lot of that is passed
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: on socially. So it's a really interesting like So for us,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: like like in Western like more you have to be cursed,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: like or you have to come in contact with a
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: cursed object and leave with it. Yeah, you have to
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: enact the curse upon yourself generally, but in Asian cultures,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: you can be cursed just by hearing about the curse,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: not even like yeah doing anything.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Oh that's great, holy shit. Okay, So then that makes
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: sense because the whole thing, the whole thing they said
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: with her mom, how she didn't fulfill part of the thing. Yeah,
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: so that got so it's like the curse was almost
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: just like descended onto her without her even really wandering it.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: It's it's it was like her plan. It's very much
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: a Sins of Our Father type situ god Okay, so okay,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: all right, and then real quick and then I'll let
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Kyle go into what his explanation is. Uh she is
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: so Lee is like the reason for this recording is
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: she's doing like a new life diary for her daughter
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: because her and her daughter she gave her. We find
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: out that she gave her daughter up when she was born.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: And now because like there was a social worker epid
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: give her daughter up, her daughter got taken away.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: She's oh no, no, she gives her a fire department.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah okay. She was talking to one of the doctors
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: and said, yeah, so she Okay, I guess I missed
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: that part.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: Now there's a part where when her daughter's in bed
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: and she she such a fucking sad moment, like why
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: did you throw me away?
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: It's oh Jesus man, Yeah, like even she knows so yeah,
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: she gave her away when she was born, and now
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: she's regaining custody because there's like a social work and
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: that comes to her house and she needs like pass
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: an inspection. So that's what's going on in this movie
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: as of right now, and then of course it just
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: descends into chaos. But I want to hear what you
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: had to say, Kyle about like the basic explanation for
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: the movie. So yeah, because I'm curious what you have
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: to say about it.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: So I mean, so basically the boy it kind of
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: boils down to just like the duality of man sort
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: of thing where it talks about how like if there's blessings,
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: there also has to be curses, right, So basically she's
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: it is like she's making this diary, you know, for
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: them to watch when she's older and all this stuff.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: But then it that, like later on the movie, she says,
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: like I've been lying to you.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: The way this curse works is to if it's like
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: just infected.
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: Like one person, you have to dilute it to having
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: them make more people aware of the curse. So that
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: ends up being her whole purpose for making fucking video
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: is because she's trying to cure her child by making
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: everybody else watch it, so everybody gets.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: A little bit of the curse.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because yeah, fucking Oprah. Well, and that's funny too,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: because yeah, I thought she was making this select and
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: she is making it to legitimately like help her kid.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: But yeah, you're brought into this thinking that it's a blessing,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: when an actuality it's a curse. And yeah, you have
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: to just spread it around and everyone takes a little
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: piece of it and it's not as bad for the
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: next person because we're all shouldering the weight.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Well, and on and on that the whole inverse of
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: the blessing being the curse and vice versa. I really
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: liked what they did with the hand symbols.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, because the original hand symbol is actually
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: a religious receiving of blessing and just actually inverting it
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: into a nonsense hand gesture it is really fucking cool.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's something so simple that is so such
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: a big brick in world building.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were so Yeah, and you see that
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: symbol a lot. When they cut to six years back
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: and Lee is with two of her friends, uh Dom
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: and Chen, I think, and they go see it's I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: think it's uh you on okay, why yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: so that when she goes to like visit their great
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: so they so do you guys, either of you remember,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: I know they were going there for the tunnel to
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: go into the tunnel, right they went they were ghostbusters
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: or something. Okay, So here's the thing. Dom Dom is
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: part of the ancient Chen family who U worships uh
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: mother Buddha mother Bo. Yeah right, So the whole the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: whole reason that they are there in the first place
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: is Dom's family has to return to that ritual site
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: every ten years to do a twenty four hour ceremony
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: of like praying and stuff to the mother Buddha. So
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: he he was already going, and then Uh Yuan was like, yo,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: take me and yet Lee because were the ghost hunters.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Dom's just like their student friend that they do because well, no,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: aren't they both related to them because they only make
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: a they only make a point of saying, you know,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: the outsider was Ronan because the other day he may
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: be a cousin that oky, Yeah, because I'm pretty sure
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: the two guys were, you know, related to them in
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: some sort of way. But you know, they were kind
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: of upset and what was the whole thing. When they
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: get there and they're making a big fuss about Lee,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: the old lady just like looks at her hand and
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: then they're like, yep, come on in, Like what was
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: that about. That never gets explained, does it? So?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: So it never it never directly gets explained, Okay, but
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: there is an explanation. So the old lady identifies Lee
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: as being her mother's child who her mother was part.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Of that cult ye back in the day.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: So she looked at her hand and saw, oh, you
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: are connected to this, you are you are family. You
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: can come in because we have a use for you.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: And you Yeah, and she is family too at the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: end of the night. Yeah, well Jesus yes. So it's
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: layers on layers, my god. Because I'm sitting here watching
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: this movie, I'm like, it's not like it's bad. I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: just what is this building to? And then you get
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: and then you get you get what it's building to.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: You're like, fuck, that's crazy. This is literally like you
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: know the ring you're she's you're watching a video that
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: it that literally is meant to curse you. So I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: thought I thought that was super cool because it was
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: like if the ring was found footage. Essentially, it's supposed
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: to make the curse weaker. Yeah, as it spreads, which
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: is the most backass word way to do a curse. Ever,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, they're more it spreads, the stronger it's
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: supposed to get. But I herpes Jesus. But everything is
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: reversed in this. The hand signals are reversed, so it's
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: like it's like a reverse curse. I don't know, it's like,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: what the fuck is actually going I need like an
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: IMDb breakdown or like an explain you know what, there's
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: probably a fucking ending explained. I'm gonna look for it while.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: But yeah, this movie is crazy because it doesn't really
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's a few jump scares as as there
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: are in most there's like three. Yeah, there's a few,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: but like they don't really rely too much on that.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: I will say the one thing that I was not
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: a fan of. I don't really particularly like scores and
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: found footage movies when they don't make sense, and this
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: didn't make sense.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Well, but remember they're basically producing a YouTube video. Yeah,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: but so they have that they're trying to add production
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: value behind their Ghostbusters series.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, it's like that was that was like
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: a kind of a thin reason. So that was that
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: was really my only gripe about it was that and
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: the one and the fact that go ahead of.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: Time I think of like that, like that had like
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: a score being where it doesn't need to.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: The one I always think of is the Last Exorcism, Like,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken, there is no score for that
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: entire movie, and then when it gets to the very end,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: they're like in the room and she's jumping on the dressers,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, there's a score, and it's like
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: it would be scarier if there wasn't a score.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Now I have to rewatch that, Yeah.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: Every time I've seen it.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, there's there's that one.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: And then there's another found footage movie I watched like
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: a year and a half ago of and the entire
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: movie is like found footage, no score at all. The
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: final sequence starts happening, there's a score, and then it
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: goes from fountain footage to stationary camera shot.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: Oh with an ending score. The last broadcast, No, no, no,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: they do do that though, And the last the last
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: the one I'm thinking of is this guy goes back
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: to his hometown after like it's another cult movie. Okay,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: I can probably find it on my letterbox and found flicks.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: The guy that does all of the ending explained on
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: YouTube he's got incantation up there, so oh okay, all right,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: that's perfect. So yeah, you just really follow this lady
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: around and like I, like I said before, the timeline
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: jumps are a bit confusing because I think I don't
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: know I Kyle said this on air, but there is
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: times where like they cut to six years back and
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: then when they go back to the present, you know,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: they're at a completely different point in time in that storyline.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: They don't really connect the dots sometimes, so it can
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: get kind of confusing. Was that was it the same
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: case for you guys too?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: Was it?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: It was a little kind of hard to keep up
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: with all the time jumps because they go six years
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: back the most frequently, but then there's also like they
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: go four years back at one point, and then you know,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: like so all the time jumps for me got a
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: little kind of convoluted. They didn't, Yeah, it was it
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: was a little obnoxious about.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's probably like two or three times where I
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: was like where, okay, where because like when the spots
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: specifically was when they're like they're in some like almost
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: like dressing room and then she like pours her person
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: out and there's more of the caterpillars and all that.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they were.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: In the village, and then it just cuts to that
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: and it's like have the kid now where? Yeah?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Like, wait, what the fuck happened? Yeah? There was that.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: I don't they were like doing a job or something,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: and then she's like got called to the school because
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: her daughter had bit that kid, and she's like I'm leaving.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, wait where were we?
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: I felt I remember that. I'm like, wait, where where
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: was this scene? I'm so confused. So really, my only
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: two complaints was, you know, not being able to follow
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: it perfectly. And then you know, I did like the score. Well.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: I thought it added to the story very well. It
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: just doesn't make sense sometimes for that to be in
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: a found footage movie. But yeah, okay, so I'm understanding
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: this a little bit more. I didn't I heard the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: part about the mom. I didn't hear the part about
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: her not fulfilling a portion of the curse. But then
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: she ends up dying from the curse. I wonder if
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: that's because she didn't fulfill yes, sir, like part So okay,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: we're we haven't even gotten to this bit in the explanation,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: but because I'm sick of being vague, I'm just gonna
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: say it. Okay. Uh no, So Madame Chang says, your
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: mother was supposed to offer you up to the gods.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: Oh that's right. Okay.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: So obviously since she didn't get offered and is still
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: living now as an adult, the pact didn't get which
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: is why they have to try so hard now because
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: she's there.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, okay, I'm understanding. That's a little bit more
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: and more as we go along. It's just it was
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: a lot to process. It helps when there are three
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: parties explaining individual facets because Kyle's saying some shit that
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh yeah, okay, I didn't get that part. Yeah,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: it's making a lot more sense. I mean, it's one
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: hundred percent gonna have to be rewatched. I'm gonna show
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Gabby and I'm hoping that her and her genius self
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: can just be like break it all down for me, because,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: like you know, she's she's usually pretty good at picking
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: up on that shit. So I'm definitely gonna rewatch it
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: with her. You've seen it twice and you say it
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: you're still a little fuzzy. Yeah, I'm gonna go home tonight.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch the ending explained, and then I'm gonna
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: go watch pray and then I'll probably watch it again
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: later on in the week just to kind of like
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: let the information that I was give me soak in
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: and then rewatch it and see if I come to
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: the same understanding.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: I'll do the same. I'll do the ending explain and
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: rewatch it with Gabby, and then on our next episode
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: we'll like reconvene and see, you know, if we if
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: we understand it more. But positive things about it besides
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: the weird stuff, what like just overall thoughts on it.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, it's a fun ride for as
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: long as it is. It doesn't drag, which found which
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: is crazy for like hour and fifty Yeah, that found
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: footage at almost two hours. Like when you go into it,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: you're like, I'm gonna get fifteen minutes of just walking. Yeah,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: Like it's gonna it's gonna be bullshit ass exposition with
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: a little bit of drama.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: They're gonna be walking through fucking somewhere, maybe a jump
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: scare here or there.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: There's gonna be a bunch of fucking filler and this
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: entire movie. I was like, what, like, there is like
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: no filler. If anything, they could have probably used more
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: like uh filler. Honestly, it was.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: So much position because they're like, Okay, daughter's curse, take
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: her to the witch doctor, don't let her eat for
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: seven days?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Shit.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, but then what what constitutes eating? Is it
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: just food being in your stomach or is it the
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: act of eating?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Apparently it's just food in your fucking stomach. Also, how
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: do you get food in your stomach from an ivy
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: in your wrist?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know about that. That was weird, Like,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: I what, well, didn't she feed her like pineapple chunks
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: or something like that, because she she threw up pinamal?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: What the fuck is that green goop in the bag?
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what that was. I think that
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: was her body just rejecting the ivy or something, because yeah,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: it was like green and cloudy. I was like, what
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: the fuck is that? Like you that? I thought it
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: started off green and cloudy when she put it in
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: the arm. No, no, it was clear, and she she
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: got the IVY in and then the next day when
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: she came back, she saw Okay, yeah, I saw that.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: That's another detail that I missed because I was like,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: what are you doing? You know? She came back the
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: next day and I was like, oh, she just like
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: ripped it out. It's like, yeah, let's not do that anything.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: I'm sitting there like you Jeffrey Dahmer bitch.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Then then then I was then I was then I
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: was thinking, Okay, wait, are we gonna get like an
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: incident in a ghost land situation where like where everything
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: that's going on actually isn't happening and it's all in
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Lee's mind.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: I thought we were gonna honestly, I thought we were
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: gonna get some twist and it was like, yeah, it
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: was all happening in her head and it was gonna
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: be some cop out ending or something. That was probably
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: my favorite thing about this movie is it never gives
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: you more information than you absolutely need right now. Yeah,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: like they were following along firsthand, They're never gonna allow
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: you to figure it out. Like so with Blair Witch.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, if if you really watch.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: It, you can you can figure it out, like you
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: can tell what characters are gonna die, when, what's gonna happen.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: But with this, it's just like every turn, it's every
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: time they open a new building door, I'm like, all right, what.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: The fuck's yeah, what's on the other side, what's on
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: door number one? Seriously, I can't do.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: That because this isn't a ghost Like it's not it's
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: not relegated to one area or like one building.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: This is a curse. It's gonna follow you where the
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: fuck ever it wants to go. And it's really weird
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: because they they kind of lead it to be like
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: an entity at the beginning, because remember when they're in
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: uh Dodo's bedroom and she's like there's a like a
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: monster on the ceiling, a battie on the ceiling, and
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: she goes to like she goes to like walk it
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: out of the house, and then you see that shadow
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: dart across. I'm like, oh, so it's like fucking an entity. Okay,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: but it's not.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: Even something I know if you guys caught this, but
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: I noticed with that scene she so you know, her
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: mom calls her, she goes to the bed, puts the
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: camera down right when she she puts the camera down
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: and walks away to like so she can deal with
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: all the ceiling. As soon as she walks away, the
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: camera actually turns a little yeah after she's.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Oh shit away.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it moves like an inch.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it does like a little of a glitch
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: for a second.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Interesting, Okay, I catch.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: That also, speaking of fun glitches. Now, I don't know
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: if this is paradolia or if this is actually something
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: that happened. I'm leaning a little bit more toward paradolia,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: but I'll have you guys check it out. So when
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: the cops are shooting themselves in the uh in the
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: beginning of the movie, the first cop shoots himself, goes
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: down the second guy, there's like a like a ten
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: to fifteen second pause when he shoots himself, and the
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: camera glitches at the same time, right above where his
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: head was. One of the glitches looks like a skull.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, Okay, But it could very well just be paradolia.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: So okay. Overall thoughts, Kyle, I'd.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: Probably get it like a three and a half out
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: of five five. I thought I thought it was good,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: Like there's a lot of good stuff about it.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, like I didn't find.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: It to be like super scary, and then the overall
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: like dialogue everything was like again, it wasn't bad, but
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: it didn't like really hit in any certain way.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: That's fair. That's fair.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: I would I would.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: Probably tell someone like, if you like pampolatage and you
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: read like the like synopsis of this movie and it
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: sounds good to you, watch it.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely worth to watch.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, the only things I really wasn't
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: a fan of was yeah, it was a little hard
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: to follow, and uh, I know they would did it
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: for storytelling purposes, but they left out they were like
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: kept me just like wanting an explanation. I was like,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: just fucking tell me what's going on. Then you don't
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: get it till like literally the last second. And then
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: the score. So I gave it a four out of
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: five for me. I also gave it a four out
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: of five. Okay, so two four out of five and
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: a three and a half. I'd call that a freight
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: mare certified slap. If I would have gotten if I
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: would have gotten like five extra minutes with that goddamn
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: statue and the tunnels, oh I know it would it
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: would have been a four point five. Oh man. When
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: she opened up that face, I was like, fuck out
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: of here, dude.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: Okay, So with that, like I guess to still be
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: I guess somewhat big with it when like she opens
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: it and like what she sees, like, I feel like
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: there was an explanation for like why that and like
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: why that's.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Another spots of the movie. I don't know what that
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: was supposed to.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: Like mean, sorry say that? What did you say that?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: What was supposed to mean? I'm sorry?
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: I just like you you don't have to be vague
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: about it at this point, We've we've let go enough.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. When they opened the she sees the face
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: and it's like just the whole with the like sores
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: on it, essentially like what the hell that ship is? Like,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the significance of that.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: No, So, so the significance of that is.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: The the mother Buddha is so malevnant, malevolent and so
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: malignant that simply looking at her face will kill you.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: So what they tried to do was they tried.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: To like destroy the face, but because the entity is
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: so powerful, it's regrowing the statue's face.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's why that's why Lee killed herself immediately
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: after she saw it. She just starts bashing her head
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: into the fucking yeah, into the like the concrete, and
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: you're like, oh, okay, so that makes sense then what
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: you just said.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, so, but it's extra terrifying because then it hits
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: that eldritch level of now you have this cosmic fucking
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: deity that is now incarnate on Earth, but now it's
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: extra fucked up because stone is.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: Regrowing in a damaged way. Yeah, so you get that
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: whole extra level as a character of like terrifying because
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: you're like, stone shouldn't grow. Why is this stone bleeding
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: with teeth? Fucking all right? Yeah, I'm I'm on board
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: with you, guys. It was. It was a good time.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: I recommend the shit out of this.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: And like I said, we talked about it in a
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: way where it's it. You still can watch it and
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: you could probably have more more information than we do.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: Like there's a lot going into this movie, and it's
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: impossible to talk about every single aspect of it.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I will, I will say too.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys caught this, but whenever
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: it's like they're taking a picture actually is like leaving
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: them daycare orphanage thing. I don't know what you want
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: to call it, but the like I think it's Lee's mother.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: I believe it is behind her and instead of like
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if this is a thing
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: in another in other countries or what, but like you know,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: we do it Bunny years, like the peace signed behind
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: someone's head. Yeah, the old woman puts like one her
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: indrix fingers white behind her head like horns. And as
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: soon as that's I don't know, maybe that's the like
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: their version of us doing that. Maybe that is a
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: thing I'm just gonna aware of. But I saw that,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh this looking at the fuck up everybody.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: Now I have to rewatch it because of all the
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: stuff you guys have said that I didn't catch, like
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: I have to, but I need to like let it
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: sit for a little bit so I can digest what
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: I've seen, because if you watch it like too close together,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: then it's just gonna get deluded. Maybe that's the point
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: deluding the curse. Oh my goodness. So this is on Netflix.
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  Speaker 3: If you have a subscription to that, you check this out. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: definitely recommended when one of the last few things on
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  Speaker 3: Netflix for real, because it is a dying breed. We've
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  Speaker 3: got no midr post credits seen, no tagline, no trivia,
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  Speaker 3: no goof's six point two out of ten on IMDb,
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  Speaker 3: three point one out of five on Letterbox. Me and
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  Speaker 3: Corey gave it a four. Kyle gave it a three
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  Speaker 3: and a half. Next week, me and Spencer will be
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  Speaker 3: back doing What are we doing next weekend? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we're doing an Elijah woodh horror movie so that should
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  Speaker 3: be fun. Which one I will tell you after the
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  Speaker 3: show is done, sir? No, okay, no, So follow us
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  Speaker 3: doctor Procter. On Letterbox, you are Corey? Do you? I say,
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  Speaker 3: do you have a letterbox?
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  Speaker 4: Kyle? I started one some time ago and then I
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  Speaker 4: just never kept up with it.
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  Speaker 3: That's fair, So he's not on that, But give us
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  Speaker 3: stay tuned and Kyle Kyle boo yuye