Latest / The ExtraCooler Show / 194 | The Dark Wedding - Raw April 26, 1999
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- 0:00Welcome to the Western show. You continue to talk like you're
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- 1:30As usual. And like I've been saying
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- 1:40And you know, I'm sure you figured out by now, we are a bi
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- 1:47the nostalgia. So I'm excited for this week's
- 1:50episode. I'm I'm.
- 1:52Disappointed. Nick usually when we're down a
- 1:55man, you have some witty. Reason as to.
- 1:58Why they're not here, so I'm putting you on the spot.
- 2:01Where? Where's Jim this evening?
- 2:02Jim Yeah, yeah. You know, actually I'm going to
- 2:04offer him a congratulations. He just started a new job.
- 2:07He's he's moving on up. He considered himself a free
- 2:10agent. And yeah, so he's taking the
- 2:13week off. Things have been a little
- 2:15overwhelming I'm sure for him, but exciting stuff, I thought.
- 2:21I thought he was visiting the Stewhart.
- 2:22Bridge in Cali? Yes, those of you that are
- 2:26paying attention on the Internet, there's a Stewhart
- 2:29Bridge now somewhere in Canada. Brett and his wife and the whole
- 2:33family posted about it. And if we were ever going to
- 2:36take a road trip together, I think we know where we're going.
- 2:39Excuse me, I have a bridge named after me.
- 2:44This is true. I don't think it's named after
- 2:45you anymore though. It's not Oh, that's.
- 2:48Bridge. Yeah, yeah.
- 2:51Great. Bridge it's it's off I-95 in
- 2:53Greenwich. Yeah, the mean streets of
- 2:57Greenwich. That's right.
- 2:58Speaking of which, Speaking of which, thanks for that segue.
- 3:02We've got no housekeeping this week and it's the week before
- 3:05Halloween. You know, two weeks ago, our
- 3:08last episode we we delivered with a Halloween episode.
- 3:13You know, the costumes were involved, the, the, the gimmicks
- 3:17in the backstage segments were there.
- 3:20So if you want that, go listen to last week's episode 193.
- 3:25But this week Mike suggested, and I absolutely, absolutely
- 3:29love this idea. He suggested that we cover the
- 3:34the what do they call it, the dark wedding?
- 3:37The Dark Wedding. The dark wedding from Monday
- 3:40Night Raw, which took place April 26th, 1999.
- 3:45This takes place in the Hartford Civic Center, which is right
- 3:48around the corner pretty much from where we grew up.
- 3:51We did not go and it, it's one month after or less than a month
- 3:57after WrestleMania 15, right? The next night after Backlash,
- 4:03things kick off. And I, I, I'm pretty sure by the
- 4:07graphic right now that you're looking at when you hit play on
- 4:09this episode. You know what we're talking
- 4:11about last night at Backlash, Stone Cold.
- 4:16He's still the WWF champion. And the episode ends with The
- 4:22Iconic, which we quoted in high school very many times.
- 4:28Every time we were in a car together, we would look at each
- 4:30other. Where to Stephanie?
- 4:33That's pretty. Good, let's hear it true.
- 4:35Where to? Stephanie, we quoted that so
- 4:40much. I like the longer version
- 4:43because it gives you the shrillness that is back story.
- 4:47Yeah. So let's let's hit it where.
- 4:53To Stephanie. We so we have to talk about the
- 5:03fact that this is still the time period where the show starts off
- 5:07with this. Not even it's a video package,
- 5:10but they only show the still photos from the night before.
- 5:13So you get these pay-per-view still photos where it's like
- 5:17they're trying to tell you like go watch the replay on Tuesday
- 5:20night. Oh yeah.
- 5:20But you felt to pay for like 40 bucks for the.
- 5:23Actually, so triggered by this, I don't know what it was.
- 5:27I don't know if it was just the Attitude Era where I was at the
- 5:30peak of like investment and was just locked in on every single
- 5:34storyline and then not being a guy that got pay per views that
- 5:37didn't have the black box. I was so triggered by watching
- 5:40this being like God damn it I just want to watch the video.
- 5:43Like show me what actually happened, not these stupid still
- 5:45photos you. Never understood that.
- 5:47Like I have to go look at a still photo of the undertaker's
- 5:50face in the driver's seat of a limo.
- 5:51Like you can't show me that footage.
- 5:53Like you, you really are banking on me still buying the
- 5:56pay-per-view on Tuesday like they used to do.
- 5:59God, wait for my dad. Oh my God.
- 6:03So this is like polar OP. It's it's amazing what has
- 6:07happened. Stephanie from last week's
- 6:09episode to this week's, she is like she is a baby like and
- 6:15she's got the baby face look and everything.
- 6:17She looks. So young. 20s I'm going to say
- 6:22I'm going to go 24. Matt.
- 6:24Now it's got to be older 7. 22. 22, Wow, she's young.
- 6:30That's pretty crazy. Like when you think about that
- 6:33and and and that she's not that much older than us, pretty wild.
- 6:38But so again, it shows us. Episode starts off with the
- 6:42highlights from backlash. Stone Cold still our WWF
- 6:45champion. We get highlights of of Shane
- 6:48hitting rock bottom. I'm sorry, hitting the rock with
- 6:51the title, allowing Stone cold to retain.
- 6:54There's just a lot going on. This is like.
- 6:56So much rock is part of the corporation still.
- 6:59Yes, Well, until this raw. Yes.
- 7:02There's yeah. So like to break it down, you've
- 7:05got Triple H is no longer in DXDX is like they're still kind
- 7:11of buddies, but they're not really DX.
- 7:13Like you got X talk. He's he's with Kane right now.
- 7:17There's corporation, there's the the ministry of Darkness.
- 7:22There's a lot going on and it's almost like I turned this raw
- 7:25on, which screw you, WWE for not having this E of your obnoxious
- 7:31streaming service. Like the fact that we had to go
- 7:35through daily motion and give our computers diseases.
- 7:41You know, we were living on the edge and there's other ways we
- 7:43watch this, but we're not going to, you know, let our source out
- 7:47there. But thank you to that source for
- 7:50the help. But but yeah, it was not easy to
- 7:56watch this episode out there. Thanks again for that.
- 8:00Yeah, it's very frustrating because there are some some
- 8:06episodes of Monday Night Raw in the back catalog.
- 8:08I think they call it the Raw vault pal on Netflix.
- 8:12And now trying to scan through, I was like, man, I wonder if
- 8:16this is like too racy to put on Netflix, which I hope that's not
- 8:21the case. I don't know for sure.
- 8:23But like, could you imagine of like they drew just cherry
- 8:26picking and they were like, Nah, this one has Stephanie hanging
- 8:29from a cross that we will call just a symbol, but we'll talk
- 8:33more about that later. Yeah, it's I don't know it it's
- 8:37frustrating. But anyway, after all the
- 8:39highlights from Backlash, we get the Stooges and a very disturbed
- 8:43Vince. This I can't help but every time
- 8:46Vince is on the screen throughout this episode of
- 8:49Monday Night Raw, but laugh his he's dusting off the acting
- 8:53chops and it's, you know, he he's frazzled.
- 8:55He's his daughters been taken hostage.
- 8:58He doesn't know how he's going to get her back.
- 9:00He's like the complete opposite of Liam Nielsen.
- 9:06Yeah, he is. He is shook and Vince obviously
- 9:12like you said, is dusting off the acting chops.
- 9:14This is like super serious role for Vince.
- 9:17Like he is playing this as as straight as he possibly can.
- 9:21But then you have Briscoe, oh man, Gerald Briscoe.
- 9:24Any time that he has lines or has to act is the worst acting
- 9:29that we we possibly speaking on WWF television.
- 9:32It is brutal. It is.
- 9:34Brutal it it sounds like he doesn't know how to read off of
- 9:39a cue card and it's it's just not good.
- 9:42It's not good. So the opening segment has us
- 9:47with the Rock and he says he he has to give Austin his respect,
- 9:52blah, blah, blah. Basically, we're seeing the face
- 9:54turn happen, but you know, right before he's about to turn face,
- 9:59he then unleashes the Austin will forever be the biggest
- 10:02piece of trailer park trash ever walk God's green earth.
- 10:06He's, you know, talks about how he gave him a beating of his
- 10:09life. But now unfortunately, he he has
- 10:12another problem that he has to deal with and that's a 200 LB
- 10:15sack of monkey waste called Shane McMahon.
- 10:19Oh man. I I felt like this was peak
- 10:22nostalgic rock for me. Like him, him pulling the the
- 10:25fast one on you where you're like, oh man, he's actually
- 10:28giving props to Oh no, he's not Never mind.
- 10:31I I just, I ate it up, man. I'm just I don't remember these
- 10:34episodes verbatim. Like straight through and.
- 10:37What I. Ignore the OR you forget
- 10:39timelines too, so this was interesting for.
- 10:41Sure. It's, it's funny.
- 10:43I was going to say though, this was one of those raws that I put
- 10:46on and I think I only watched it once, obviously live.
- 10:49I didn't go back. I can rewatch it for any reason,
- 10:52but I felt like I remembered so much of this episode of RAW,
- 10:57like, and not just because of the clips that you've seen, but
- 11:00like little things like this whole open opening segment.
- 11:03I remembered the whole thing and it's definitely a very confusing
- 11:08era when you go back and watch it to try and figure out who's a
- 11:11babyface, who's a heel, whatever point they're at in their
- 11:14career. And even who's with who right
- 11:18now? Yeah.
- 11:18Who's with? Who is?
- 11:20There's so much movement as far as like the corporate, the
- 11:24corporation goes, the corporate ministry, the ministry, like
- 11:27trying to figure out that timeline is just insane to me.
- 11:30And I just it all, it all just blends together.
- 11:34Yeah, and you also got tests like walking out of the
- 11:37corporation here too, and which is also like, weird.
- 11:41And then, yeah, I think it's like a week away from them
- 11:45forming the union with like mankind and the Big show and.
- 11:49Yeah, it's like it's it's like you had everybody had to be in a
- 11:52faction at this point in time. And so like for those of you
- 11:55that are listening right now, so the the corporation at the start
- 11:59of this episode was Shane the mean St.
- 12:02Posse the Rock Triple H China test can Shamrock test boss.
- 12:08Man. Boss man as well.
- 12:10Boss man was the muscle. And then in the ministry you've
- 12:14got obviously Undertaker, Paul Bearer, the acolytes.
- 12:17They're not APA yet. Big Midian and viscera and then,
- 12:25you know, you got Stone Cold on his own.
- 12:26And then like I alluded to earlier, you've got this weird
- 12:30like DX thing that they're like still kind of DX, but not
- 12:34really. Minus Triple H.
- 12:36Right minus triple HX Pock is tag team champions with Kane
- 12:40during this episode. Triple H just fought X Pock at
- 12:44WrestleMania Fifteens though. And X Pock is the only one that
- 12:48still like carries the X. You know, he still wears the X.
- 12:52He's the only one I know Xbox, of course he's got to have it on
- 12:54his gear, but it's still the same DX logo, that style of X.
- 12:59He's the only one. And we see, you know, the New
- 13:03Age Outlaws on this episode as well, but definitely not that DX
- 13:07that you're thinking of. Yeah, so they're, you know,
- 13:11rock. Then we obviously get Shane
- 13:15comes out and they're about to beat up the rock after he tries
- 13:19to take out Triple H in China. Boss man gets a cheap shot in
- 13:22with a nightstick. They're all over him, but the
- 13:25Shane fires the rock from the corporation and that's when we
- 13:28see the rocks face turn happen. Oh man, a lot going on, a lot
- 13:35has. Been the corporation since
- 13:37Survivor Series. Yes, yeah, for for a while.
- 13:39When you think about that, that's you know.
- 13:42Isn't that the beauty of the Attitude Era, though, Is like
- 13:45encapsulated in just the beginning of this episode where
- 13:48you're trying to explain what in the world is going on in a
- 13:51episode of Raw and they're being so much meat on the bone.
- 13:56It's crazy to like think about of like how that high octane and
- 14:00how fast these stories were moving, how much they shoved
- 14:03story wise into an episode where you are still getting matches
- 14:07too. I'm not sure they weren't the
- 14:08longest matches. But.
- 14:10It was still matches and it was it was very entertaining.
- 14:14I, I completely agree. So after that whole segment, we
- 14:17get Pat Patterson suggesting that Vince calls the cops,
- 14:20They're backstage. Vince says no, he doesn't want
- 14:24to, he wants to do this Undertaker's way.
- 14:25It's, it's, I think this is where they got the, the script
- 14:29for and the story for Taken. You know, they were very
- 14:32inspired by Vince McMahon and Stephanie McMahon.
- 14:36It's oh God, but he's got papers for the Undertaker that
- 14:40Undertaker demanded and he's got no other option.
- 14:45And they're just standing there and there's like a little old
- 14:47like dial up phone just waiting. Classic.
- 14:50Like a little table. Yeah, just on the little tiniest
- 14:53table. The the classic like square
- 14:57looking phone like think of what the the old phones were when
- 15:00they were Rotary phones, but this one had those square yes
- 15:03switch buttons on it and it. Was a little indent.
- 15:06Yes, yes, yes, yes, exactly. I'm now wondering if Liam Neeson
- 15:10is a wrestling fan. Like, can you track this?
- 15:13Like I know, has he been a guest, you know, host of an
- 15:17episode of Running your draw? I'm I'm sure that that that was
- 15:19a thing, right, And it feels like Taken is a is a movie that
- 15:24Vince would love. I don't know.
- 15:25I know he doesn't watch very many movies, if any.
- 15:29I. Feel like Taken is like right up
- 15:30his alley. Yes, yes, maybe I'm teetering on
- 15:33some some dangerous territory and making jokes of where Vince
- 15:37and what he would do with Taken, but.
- 15:39Yeah, I don't want to know I'm. Going to leave that alone.
- 15:41I don't want to know corporations giving Shane a pep
- 15:44talk backstage. He wants a rock jersey and
- 15:46Triple H suggests the name of the croc.
- 15:49It's like, oh God, Jesus, just stop.
- 15:51Just just stop, please. But we've got our first match.
- 15:54Triple HS voice at this time in 1999 feels less the game.
- 15:59You know, he doesn't agree with the game in any way, shape or
- 16:02form. And he's a little nerdy man.
- 16:05Like, yeah, you mean the croc? Like there's no bass in his
- 16:08voice. It's very strange.
- 16:10Yeah, it's and it's, it's just, I don't know, it doesn't work in
- 16:14the role that he's in, you know, he's.
- 16:16Well I was thinking of this too. Is this is Triple H in the
- 16:21corporation here where like this time period, is it because we
- 16:26know what Triple H the game is and you're trying to fit the
- 16:30game into 1999 and he's not? Quite Triple H.
- 16:37At this point in time, so I don't know, it's, it's a weird
- 16:40timeline. And again, we've covered Rock
- 16:43and Triple H in very, very different ways throughout time
- 16:47and the latter matches and things like that.
- 16:49But this was a very stark difference and I forgot some of
- 16:54this era of Triple H. We'll talk about it a little bit
- 16:58as we as we move forward. Our next match, our actually our
- 17:01first match is the Brood versus X Pock and Kane.
- 17:04The Brood actually just kind of, and, and I'm sorry to add some
- 17:08housekeeping, but they just left the ministry, correct?
- 17:12They were original members of the ministry.
- 17:15Mike, you probably know this or remember it, but I'm pretty sure
- 17:20I, I feel like they were in there before the acolytes and,
- 17:24and, and this and the media and they mention it during the match
- 17:29when they're coming down, like they say something about how
- 17:32like they've left the ministry. OK.
- 17:36Yeah, it's coming back. Weird.
- 17:37Yeah. So anyway, this is a non title
- 17:40match. Ex Bach and Kane are your
- 17:41champions. It's always cool to see a young
- 17:45Edge and Christian in this, but it's it it it's what you thought
- 17:50it would be. You know, there's the Bronco
- 17:54Buster involved there. Kane is very like conflicted,
- 17:59you know, Christian gets involved because Gangrel and
- 18:02Edge are the the tag team in this match and Edge takes a
- 18:07choke slam from Kane and they win the match and we boom on.
- 18:14I I have a little bit of the the the Ministry of Darkness
- 18:17timeline for the brood here I'm trying to save.
- 18:20Yeah, I like it. It's like you're doing the
- 18:22homework on the bus on your bus ride home.
- 18:25That's my, that's my son's favorite move.
- 18:27And then he comes home. He's like, I already have it
- 18:28done. I'm like, let's take a look at
- 18:30it. And then you're like erasing
- 18:31things 5 minutes later. Sorry, 4th grade, 4th grade math
- 18:35is, is a weird situation, but mostly because I don't know
- 18:39really how to teach it. They learn things so
- 18:41differently. Oh yeah, it's strange.
- 18:42But anyway, I'm getting off topic.
- 18:44So February 1999, the Brood feuded with the Undertaker's
- 18:47Ministry of Darkness stable. But at the end of the feud,
- 18:50that's when the Brood merges with the Ministry.
- 18:53So it is it is long before that. And then let's see at backlash
- 18:59in your house. The acolytes and Midian at this
- 19:03point are now facing the brood in a six man tag.
- 19:06So April 26th they Yeah, All right, cool.
- 19:09Then that's really where we are right here.
- 19:11So this is right after, excuse me, the brood has left ministry.
- 19:16Yep, you're on point. And it's like abruptly, like
- 19:18almost, there's no like no reasoning behind it.
- 19:21It almost didn't make sense because they fit pretty well,
- 19:25but maybe they needed a lower tier faction to to carry that.
- 19:29And they are the only ones to have defected from the stable.
- 19:34And this was right before the corporate ministry.
- 19:36So Ed Edge and Gingrell are not in the corporate ministry, but
- 19:40they were in the Ministry of Darkness.
- 19:42OK. All right, so Vince's landline
- 19:46rings backstage. Hang on.
- 19:47We're missing the bloodbath here.
- 19:49Oh I'm sorry, I forgot the bloodbath.
- 19:51I'm, I'm just very sorry. So Bruce King gets doused in the
- 19:56red syrup. The bruised lights come on after
- 20:00the match. He's he's in the blood.
- 20:03Like this poor bastard doesn't go and shower at all either.
- 20:06Spoiler alert 'cause he wears it proudly throughout the night.
- 20:11But he's like he's blinded and he choke slams X pock into the
- 20:14crowd because he's the only one insight and you can't see or
- 20:18something. I don't know.
- 20:19I don't. I didn't think it was because he
- 20:21couldn't see. I just thought he was.
- 20:22Frustrated. Like, all right, I'm just gonna
- 20:24take it out on the first person I.
- 20:25See, that's who my tag team partner.
- 20:28That makes a whole lot of sense. Well, we weren't going through
- 20:32the last episode that we just did.
- 20:34There was feuding within the tag teams.
- 20:36I know 2. 1002 So it's kind of the same thing here.
- 20:39You're right, it's a stick. Person What a fall from grace
- 20:42for Kane. Yeah, poor, poor Bear City.
- 20:44You got nowhere for him to go. So they're going to stick them
- 20:48with Xbox, which I I did like their tag team.
- 20:51We covered that. I don't know.
- 20:52Early episode, early, early, early socket.
- 20:59Oh God. All right, so now can we talk
- 21:01about Vince's landline ringing? And then we go to break and then
- 21:05we come back and we get a recap of the phone call.
- 21:09It's like the weirdest thing, like the phone call that
- 21:11happened over break. You could you had to cut the
- 21:13commercial. We weren't allowed to see this
- 21:15happen. Vince.
- 21:18Vince is on the phone and it sounds like a 1900 number that
- 21:25Vince just dialed into and he got the Undertaker on the other
- 21:29line. Instead.
- 21:31You're like. This is exactly this is the plot
- 21:34for taken again and let's just Undertaker is putting it on
- 21:38strong of that like stereotypical ransom phone call
- 21:42that like let's just let's just listen to Taker be really,
- 21:46really perv. She's fine, Vince, as a matter
- 21:49of fact. She's real fine and you know
- 21:54what I've got and you know what I want so.
- 22:00Yeah. There's the 900 number vibes
- 22:02that you're that you're giving for anybody that doesn't know,
- 22:05won 900 back in the day, a four. And yeah, this was this was,
- 22:13this was inappropriate adult entertainment, let's call it.
- 22:17Maybe that's what Vince was looking for with the Undertaker
- 22:20though. But anyway, he tells Undertaker
- 22:22that he can have what he wants, so, you know, and.
- 22:25His face, his face during when the Undertaker's saying that
- 22:28it's like, looks like Steve McNair during the yeah.
- 22:34Yeah, he's very lost. Oh God, He he basically tells
- 22:40him he can have controlling interest.
- 22:44Yeah, and of WWF and Undertaker threatens him to by hurting
- 22:49Stephanie if Vince screws him over.
- 22:53Vince wants to now, Vince. I've got that too.
- 22:57Let's listen. To you so much.
- 23:00It's all my hair on her head. So help me, you son of a bitch.
- 23:05Now, Vince, is that any way to talk to your daughter's soul
- 23:10mate? You just give me those
- 23:13documents. Vince comes across as a man who
- 23:19obviously is acting, but he has never shed a tear in his life
- 23:23because the way in which he sells that is awful.
- 23:28He. How like blow speaking at 1st
- 23:31and then it's so weird. If you so much is lay hands,
- 23:36he's trying. To be stern, it's, it's, it's
- 23:40supposed to be scary, right? I don't know.
- 23:47I don't know it it was very, yeah.
- 23:52Yeah, so Undertaker. Undertaker also has one more
- 23:55thing. He wants Austin to deliver the
- 23:57documents. Vince says he can't do that, but
- 24:00Undertaker calls that Vince's problem and hangs up on him.
- 24:06It doesn't work at first. Undertaker's like I'm still here
- 24:10and then he's like, I hang up again.
- 24:15What's your? Favorite movie?
- 24:16Yes, yes, yeah. Like, Jesus Christ, we went to a
- 24:20commercial break and we still can't edit that out.
- 24:23Like come on. Oh God.
- 24:26All right, Austins in the ring with for an interview with
- 24:28Michael Cole, a very young Michael Cole.
- 24:31But right away he wants Maggle wants to talk about his win last
- 24:35night and Austin kicks him out of the ring.
- 24:36Thank God, Vince interrupts instantly.
- 24:40Oh so fast. Vince interrupts.
- 24:42Vince asks for Austins help, Austin kind of like chuckles,
- 24:46laughs it off and Austin says he's got his own problem,
- 24:50doesn't really care what happens to Vince and his daughter.
- 24:52Vince goes on to beg Austin. But sorry Vinnie Mac, you're on
- 24:57your own tonight. I don't give a rat's ass about
- 25:00your problems. Stone Cold Steve Austin needs
- 25:03Vince McMahon to kiss his ass because Stone Cold said so.
- 25:07Oh. God, it's fantastic.
- 25:11I I absolutely love this classic era.
- 25:15Like, yeah, yeah, it's, it's everything.
- 25:17Happening is fantastic. Yeah, for any Attitude Era fan,
- 25:22this is the nostalgia. Warm and fuzzy.
- 25:24Yes, that's what this is. Yeah, yeah.
- 25:27All right. Before we move on to our next
- 25:29match, what's in everybody's cooler?
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- 25:39have for me, and I've said this over the almost five years that
- 25:43we've been doing this podcast, this is one of my favorite
- 25:45beers. It's simple.
- 25:47It's Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. I don't know why.
- 25:49I just, I've always loved the taste of it.
- 25:52It always goes down smooth, but it's got enough flavor to it to
- 25:56it to not be like a Coors Light or yeah, what you got.
- 26:07I'm playing a game of chicken right now.
- 26:10Wow, wow. All right, I got a Stella Artos.
- 26:16Artos Stella Artos. I wish Jim was here right now
- 26:22because he would probably RIP you to shreds for that.
- 26:26Well, I don't speak French. Come on.
- 26:30All right, let's move on. I have an extra special treat
- 26:33that my parents were in Saratoga and they send me this wonderful
- 26:39picture of a brewery that they're at and it's brand new
- 26:42and it is Treehouse Baby. Treehouse has opened up a new
- 26:46brewery within the last year in Saratoga, NY, and they brought
- 26:51me home some goodies. I have a can of Haze here, which
- 26:54is one of their flagship beers. That's Julius in the fridge too.
- 26:58So maybe you'll see that in two weeks.
- 27:00But if if it lasts that long but it says on the back of the can.
- 27:04We hope you enjoy it with laughter, good cheer and in
- 27:07company of those you love. So cheers to you boys and to
- 27:10everyone listening at 8.2. I thought it was awesome and
- 27:15classic purple can. Yeah.
- 27:17History of darkness. I felt like it.
- 27:18Was appropriate. Wow, man.
- 27:20If you're on point tonight, on point, about as on point as Val
- 27:24Venus versus Dilo Brown in our next match with LET, which lasts
- 27:283 minutes and 20 seconds. Full of interesting stories,
- 27:33full of interesting things that come about in 3 minutes.
- 27:36That's the attitude, Arrow, man. They give you everything that
- 27:38you need in a 3 minute punch in the face.
- 27:41So we take a. Look at.
- 27:44That Sunday night heat from last night, because you know,
- 27:46obviously there's no way Val Venus is making a backlash main
- 27:50card, right? But you know, we have to
- 27:52continue the story that he's got going on with none other than
- 27:55Nicole Bass, and she's telling him that she wants his slide
- 28:00trombone in her breast section. We should have brought a bear.
- 28:05A bear sale tonight. Damn.
- 28:10Do you have any in the fridge? Can you like run and go grab it
- 28:12or? No.
- 28:14That's a that's a bummer. If you had a bass in the fridge
- 28:17I would be I would be very impressed.
- 28:20I would, that's one of my favourites all time.
- 28:22My wife beat some rosy cheek makeup for her.
- 28:27Like Nicole Bass has such a look man big Val Bowski.
- 28:33WWE, sorry, WWE makeup department has stepped up their
- 28:38game since 1999, I decided. Very, very much so.
- 28:44I'm surprised that we haven't covered more Nicole Bass.
- 28:47I feel like it's just enough into the wrestle crap world
- 28:51where it's right up our alley. But I don't.
- 28:53I don't know if we can fulfill an entire episode with No, I
- 28:57don't. Know how is she from like Howard
- 28:58Stern? Crap, I think yes yeah, and she
- 29:02did some time in ECW too I believe.
- 29:05I could be wrong, but I believe. But anyway, D Lo Brown runs in
- 29:10before we we get the classic corny Val Venus catch phrase,
- 29:16and in the match, Nicole Bass comes out for the distraction,
- 29:19allowing D Lo Brown to hit the sky high for the pin.
- 29:24Somehow this is one of those things I really don't remember,
- 29:27but it starts to creep back into my mind that D Lo Brown had
- 29:32Ivory as his valet. I, I, I, I don't know, there's
- 29:38so much of that like that I can't piece together, but I like
- 29:40vaguely remember. There was so much turnover,
- 29:44there was so much change with the valets.
- 29:46And like, we'll talk about two more in a couple minutes too.
- 29:49But like, it's so it's so hard to keep track of everything
- 29:53because everything was moving so quickly and in the moment it all
- 29:56made sense, like. 100%. Nine, we were all locked in and
- 30:00you could keep up, but imagine somebody just popping in like
- 30:03we're trying to pop in right now, like back then, like trying
- 30:06to. I know a.
- 30:07Actual fan, just, you know, watching.
- 30:09You could. You could miss two weeks and the
- 30:11entire landscape of the company could be different.
- 30:15I It's funny. Like it's funny that you say
- 30:17that that because I so like I said earlier, Jim, Jim started a
- 30:22new job. So he's been super busy and he
- 30:26told us that he wasn't going to be able to do this episode.
- 30:28I wanted to pitch to him that he should come on this episode and
- 30:32just like listen to us talk about it and chime in.
- 30:35Like, because I feel like I like to think that this episode, as
- 30:39we run this down and knowing that he watched it, he would
- 30:43hear certain things and he'd be like, Oh my God, I remember
- 30:45that. I remember that because there's
- 30:47a lot of that in this episode, if you ask me.
- 30:51And I wish, I wish I was set up correctly to give him a call and
- 30:54have him. I'm going to have to get my shit
- 30:58together and be able to do that for a later episode.
- 31:01That would be sick, actually. So after the match, we get big
- 31:05show and he's he's thinking that Austin should help out Vince.
- 31:09We get that little segment. Billy Gunn, he's he's coming for
- 31:13Triple H. There's just there's so much
- 31:19talent on this card. It's insane.
- 31:24It's it's like every attitude or a person and like to go back to
- 31:27Ivory. I figured feel like Ivory was
- 31:30just put with DLO just as a reason to get another female on
- 31:35TV, right? Like another attractive female
- 31:38on television. Vince is like, let's see if it
- 31:40sticks, let's see if anybody takes to it.
- 31:44But our next match is Triple H versus Billy Gunn.
- 31:46This match goes almost 7 minutes a.
- 31:50Longer episode, a longer match on the card.
- 31:53Yes to 100%. The match is very slow if you
- 31:57ask me. I am this this weird like post
- 32:01Shawn Michaels triple HDX into this where he's still trying to
- 32:07like figure himself out is a really strange Triple H era for
- 32:11me. I it's probably one of my least
- 32:13favorites. Like the pants like.
- 32:16Roz war shirt like. Yeah, I don't, I don't know.
- 32:20The, the, the, the music that he has, I have no recollection of.
- 32:24Yeah. I don't know, I I don't know.
- 32:27I just like it. It's such a weird territory for
- 32:31Triple H. It just doesn't make sense to
- 32:33me. It doesn't register in my brain
- 32:35as far as the timeline of Triple H goes.
- 32:37So China gets involved in the match, which pulls Rd.
- 32:41Dogg out and he he he gets in China's face.
- 32:43Then Triple H lands a Pedigree on Billy Gunn and.
- 32:48This is the perfect opportunity for us to say that Jr. and Jim
- 32:53Cornette are the two on the call.
- 32:56And Cornette, especially during this match, is the most
- 33:00obnoxious human being on the face of the earth.
- 33:03Let's just listen to 5 seconds just so you get a preview of
- 33:06kind of what you're dealing with throughout this card.
- 33:08It's. Usually not the ass that's
- 33:10kicking ass. I can't believe how many times
- 33:11I've said ass on DD. It, it, it's it this, I, I
- 33:17apologize for not saying that because I like to think in the
- 33:19beginning when I tell everybody what we're watching, I tell them
- 33:22who's on commentary. And I think that's the most
- 33:25jarring thing. And the thing that I like least
- 33:28remember is Jim Cornett being on commentary during this time.
- 33:32You know, I, I knew I like he's. This episode only.
- 33:36Yeah, so Lawler was around during this Attitude Era.
- 33:40As I asked last night, I knew Mike would know the answer and
- 33:46he confirmed that Lawler had basically quit and it was all
- 33:50over the cat firing wife, which is kind of what I thought.
- 33:56I just couldn't remember the timeline because I feel like
- 33:58there's been so many times where these guys have gone in and out.
- 34:03But it's Cornett is awful and it made me want to again, too lazy
- 34:09that I didn't go and do it. I wanted to figure out who was
- 34:12on commentary before and the week after on Raw because it's
- 34:17got to be better than Cornett It it has to.
- 34:20He's terrible. And you can almost tell that Jim
- 34:22Ross. Might have been Michael Cole.
- 34:23For him, Michael Cole, yeah, I don't know.
- 34:29But the the match is what it is and the backstage Shane is
- 34:33whispering something to Boss man.
- 34:35We don't know what it is. And X Pock is pissed off.
- 34:38He's backstage and he's looking for Kane after that chokeslam
- 34:41and he's going to be looking for a while, I think.
- 34:46Ready for our next match? You also you did you glanced
- 34:50over the commercial that was in here as well.
- 34:53Oh, was it the chef Boyerty, 1? So there's big game Hunter
- 34:58that's talking about all his his, you know, his awards, his,
- 35:04what do you even call that? A big game hunter that takes
- 35:06down big animal. He's got them all, you know,
- 35:09tachyonies on the wall, all the heads.
- 35:12And then next thing you know, he's like, oh, I made the
- 35:14mistake of, you know, bothering or approaching this one while he
- 35:18was eating. And it's a picture of mankind
- 35:20who has Sacco on one hand and that's just his hand of the
- 35:23other one. And it's just his head sitting
- 35:26on a a wooden brick in the background.
- 35:28And you have, at the end of the commercial mankind just going.
- 35:33Beefy. Yeah.
- 35:36What are we doing? I'm going to have to, I'm going
- 35:40to have to take, I'm going to have to record that entire thing
- 35:43and put it in the morning. I'll, I'll, I'll do it tomorrow.
- 35:47Good Mankind and Big Show are teaming up and they're going to
- 35:50face Test and Big Boss. Man this match goes almost 5
- 35:54minutes. Just last night at Backlash,
- 35:58Mankind beat Big Show in a Boiler Room brawl but saved him
- 36:03from attack. Show saved Mankind at the end of
- 36:07that match from an attack by Boss Man and Tess, who once
- 36:10again they're in the Corporation.
- 36:13Boss man is legitimately intimidating that this.
- 36:16Boss man is is a scary dude at this time.
- 36:19Like it it he is a badass like and the way he knows how to spin
- 36:23that night stick is scary. And it comes into play in
- 36:27multiple instances. I mean, early on in the first
- 36:30segment with Shane and the rock and them kicking or firing the
- 36:35rock from the the corporation. Like Shane is in there with that
- 36:38with that. I almost called it a kendo stick
- 36:40with that night stick and choking out the rock.
- 36:42And it it comes into play later on too.
- 36:44So there's like, Bossman is an integral part of just the
- 36:49minutiae of the show, but he never says a word on camera, I
- 36:53don't think. And he doesn't need to he it,
- 36:55it's actually, I think everybody thinks of like, you know, the,
- 37:00the, the baby blue police officer big boss man.
- 37:03But this version of Boss Man is a bad ass.
- 37:07Dark blue, like classic. Like he's got like the trooper.
- 37:11Yeah, he, he's Shane's right hand man right now.
- 37:15And throughout this match we kind of start to figure out what
- 37:18Shane was whispering to him about.
- 37:21And you know, he's he's, he's going to kick test out of the
- 37:26corporation, which rightfully so, because Test sucks and
- 37:30doesn't bring much to the table. But you know, in in the match
- 37:34Boss man doesn't look interested about tagging in end things.
- 37:41Test is crawling in for looking, looking for the tag, puts his
- 37:45hand out and Boss man just is hanging on the posts and you
- 37:48know, I love it. Turned to him.
- 37:50It was good stuff, yeah. Especially like watching back,
- 37:53you look at the corporation and you're like, OK, Shane Triple H
- 37:56China bought this version of boss man.
- 37:59You're like, test is definitely not necessary.
- 38:02Like there's just he's just a wet blanket.
- 38:05But then the end of the match is big show hitting the jumping
- 38:09double clothesline takes both of those guys out, allows mankind
- 38:12to hit his iconic double armed DDT on test and lays in the
- 38:18mandible claw for the win. And then afterwards test and
- 38:21boss man get each in each other's faces and boss Man hits
- 38:25him with his night stick and see a test.
- 38:27Yeah, see ya. Hopefully I never have to see
- 38:31you again and talk about you again on this podcast cause can
- 38:33we? Talk about Mr. Sacco at this
- 38:35point in time. Yeah, let's hear it, Mr. Sacco
- 38:39isn't just the hand drawn like face that's on there, it's like
- 38:44airbrushed like I need Jim. I wish this is the point of the
- 38:48episode where I miss Jim the most, because I need his
- 38:51commentary on an airbrushed version of Mr. Socko and it has
- 38:55mankind's face airbrushed onto this white sock I gotta.
- 39:00Go find it. It is.
- 39:01Unbelievable. I I'm gonna have not noticed
- 39:03that. No, I didn't either.
- 39:05It is absolutely bizarre. I am going to take a screenshot
- 39:10and send it to you as false as I possibly can in our group chat.
- 39:14This is this is fantastic news. I wonder if Ted could get that
- 39:17and put it on his site and how much he could get.
- 39:19For it, he was the first person I thought of when this came
- 39:22about because it is unbelievable.
- 39:26Vince is in the loading docks waiting with his documents, just
- 39:30pacing. X Talk is still looking for Kane
- 39:33backstage feels like forever. And then out of nowhere, here's
- 39:36Bob Holly beating the crap out of Al Snow and he's demanding A
- 39:40rematch for the Hardcore title that he lost last night.
- 39:44Very, very, very quick segment. And then we get arguably the
- 39:51most bizarre thing in this entire episode and it is a black
- 39:56and white like sitcom. Oh yeah.
- 40:02And it is a scene. You might know what we're
- 40:04talking about the. Cleavage house none other than
- 40:07Beaver Cleavage, formerly Mosh of the Headbangers.
- 40:11And he's eating some breakfast and he doesn't like his
- 40:15breakfast. And in walks his mother, who had
- 40:19no clue who this woman is. She's jacked, she's attractive.
- 40:23She's she's jacked, she's she's she.
- 40:26But she's an attractive woman. And Beaver Cleavage does not
- 40:31like his breakfast and his mother offers him some of her
- 40:37milk and it's just as creepy as you would imagine.
- 40:42You can guess where that goes from.
- 40:43There it's it's so, so bizarre. Like whose brainchild was this?
- 40:50This is more wrestle crap stuff. Uh huh.
- 40:53Absolutely. Does he ever wrestle?
- 40:56Yes. I don't Beaver cleavage.
- 40:57Like very briefly, right? Yeah, you don't remember his
- 41:01music. No, I vaguely do.
- 41:05Boring. Boring.
- 41:06Boring. Boring.
- 41:08Boring, boring. All right, so Matt just sent the
- 41:12text message of this mankind, Mr. Sacco and I have no.
- 41:17It's like a spatula it. Doesn't.
- 41:21But when you zoom in on it, it's like it's impressive.
- 41:24Yeah, the amount of detail that is on, Yeah, that airbrushed
- 41:29sock is wild. Wow.
- 41:32It's it's a wonder. They were selling those.
- 41:35No, I bet you that's I bet you that's why they changed it
- 41:38because Vince was like we can't sell those pal like or we can't
- 41:42make enough. Of those kids will be sticking
- 41:44their fingers at each other's mouths.
- 41:47Straight out of like the the mall in Bridgeport, Like that's
- 41:51what this is like. Yes.
- 41:53Not even in in Hartford. You had to go to Bridgeport to
- 41:55get this one done. Yeah.
- 41:58Next up we've got Jeff Jarrett versus Godfather in a match that
- 42:00goes under 2 minutes. Thank God it's a non title
- 42:04match. Godfather is the
- 42:05Intercontinental Champion. I don't even think he comes out
- 42:08with the title. No, I don't thinking about it.
- 42:12I don't remember seeing it. I do not remember, but anyways
- 42:16he. Does he does come out with hoes
- 42:18though? He.
- 42:18Does come out with hoes. Speaking of hoes, before the
- 42:21match, Jeff Jarrett comes out and he adds a little
- 42:24stipulation. He asks to make it a title match
- 42:28but God the Father says if Godfather wins he gets to have
- 42:33Deborah as a hoe and and Jim Jarrett and Deborah agree to
- 42:40this and Val Venus comes out and this is that weird era where Val
- 42:45is obsessed with Deborah and Owen is still around and so Val
- 42:51comes out. Only a few weeks before Over the
- 42:54Edge, by the way. Excellent, excellent point.
- 42:57So yeah, so it's it's leading up to over the edge, which is what
- 43:01like 2 weeks, 3 weeks later, like 3.
- 43:03Weeks like yeah. And so like I said, Val comes
- 43:07out, he starts hitting on Deborah, which draws Nicole Bass
- 43:10out. She chases Val Venus off and
- 43:13this distraction allows the Godfather to roll up Jeff
- 43:15Jarrett for the pin to retain the title.
- 43:18And then Owen comes out, you know, he's he's in the middle of
- 43:21his blue blazer gimmick, but he's dressed in his street
- 43:24clothes. And he grabs Deborah, pulls her
- 43:28out of there, even though she seems to like the idea of being
- 43:31one of the the hoes. It is some some peak Attitude
- 43:36era stuff. So here's the IC title is not
- 43:40around his waist when he comes out.
- 43:42He doesn't carry it. Nobody has it during the
- 43:45entrances. But at the very end of the
- 43:48match, all of the, you know, the, the Deborah thing happens
- 43:51and the hose get in the ring and the hose presents him the icy
- 43:57title and it just hands it to him.
- 43:59And then they all jump on him and he falls to the ground and
- 44:01all the hose and all that. But that's the only time that
- 44:06you see the title throughout this entire segment, this entire
- 44:09match. Geez.
- 44:10I didn't pick up on that though. No, all right.
- 44:13Afterwards, Vince is doing exactly the same thing.
- 44:17He's still at the loading dock, pacing.
- 44:19A lot of that. Seems to be a seems to be a
- 44:21theme throughout this episode with a lot of people, but we get
- 44:24another segment. I think they're trying to top
- 44:28the Beaver cleavage segment because we've got Terry and
- 44:32Jacqueline caressing meat, the wrestler Sean Stasiak as as
- 44:41Sexual chocolates. Music is playing in the
- 44:43background. And obviously it's not.
- 44:46It is your grandmother's sheets that are still all bundled up in
- 44:51a ball and sitting in the corner of a room somewhere and it's
- 44:54used as a backdrop. It's got like floral pattern on
- 44:57there. I think it's like it, it looks
- 45:00like watercolor floral pattern, but the sheet that's behind them
- 45:03is completely wrinkled and they're just caressing his chest
- 45:07as they are throwing many, many sexual innuendos out there.
- 45:11And this is another point of just bizarre, bizarre time that
- 45:17I don't necessarily remember this in the timeline of the
- 45:20Attitude Era. And.
- 45:24Again, Sexual Chocolates Music before it was Sexual Chocolates
- 45:27music is playing in the background throughout this whole
- 45:30segment, which is I always love those little Easter eggs when
- 45:33you find them. It's like the Kurt Angle's music
- 45:37was the Patriots, yeah. Next match we've got Bradshaw
- 45:41versus Ken Shamrock. I forgot to write down the time
- 45:43because I could give two shits about this match, but the it's
- 45:49the fallout from the Acolytes attacking Ken Shamrock last
- 45:52night at Backlash. Shamrock comes out carrying.
- 45:58What's he carrying? Anybody know?
- 45:59He's carrying a ball bat. A ball bat.
- 46:01And if I hear them refer to it as a God damn ball bat one more
- 46:05time throughout this episode of Raw, I'm going to lose my mind.
- 46:08Did I not have the rights to baseball?
- 46:11I don't know. Maybe.
- 46:13The ball bat. Vince doesn't want to give give
- 46:16any credit baseball, it's just all bat.
- 46:19It's a ball bat. You don't have the time on this
- 46:22because the match never. Never happens, right?
- 46:24That's why Tess comes out for a save and acolytes bail.
- 46:28Shamrock and Tess look at each other in a sign of respect and
- 46:33Shamrock destroys some stuff because he's a psychopath.
- 46:36And like Matt said, the match never happens.
- 46:39I must say that you say a sign of respect.
- 46:43I have to give a sign of respect to Farook, who is out there just
- 46:47putting on an absolute beating onto Ken Shamrock in leather
- 46:50pants. Ron White, Ron Simmons.
- 46:57Ron Simmons. Sorry, in leather pants is not
- 47:02something that I had in mind. And that like short sleeve skin
- 47:06tight. Yeah, it's like the Hardy Boys
- 47:08axles. Yeah.
- 47:09Yes. God.
- 47:12So our next match is Shane McMahon versus The Rock.
- 47:15As promised. This match goes 3 minutes.
- 47:19Rock, You know, starts to destroy Shane and this brings
- 47:22out the posse who are easily dispatched and Triple H comes
- 47:27out and China's there and they they just beat him down beat him
- 47:32down bad. It's what you would expect right
- 47:36from this segment we. Think so China gets involved as
- 47:40well, which I do enjoy watching China mix it up with the guys
- 47:44during this time period as well. And.
- 47:45Rock lays one into her. Yep, and that's what I was about
- 47:49to say is that she even takes some some damage here as well
- 47:53and Rock has no problem lacing one on into her.
- 47:56It I I guess maybe at this point in the raw I was just ready for
- 48:02the end. I think so.
- 48:03Like I, I was, I was just ready for the last segment knowing
- 48:08what it was. So, so we're just going to get
- 48:12there. So Vince leaves the garage,
- 48:14which, you know, Undertaker never showed up for.
- 48:17And then we cut to a scene where there's the ministry, which is
- 48:22the Undertaker Pallbearer, Midian Viscera, the Acolytes,
- 48:26and Paul is is holding a giant book, looks like a Bible or
- 48:32something. I don't know.
- 48:34And they're dragging Stephanie out.
- 48:36She's wearing a long black dress and she's out on, she's gonna be
- 48:41out on a cross. And then before where you think
- 48:46it's about to happen and then it's more xpoc.
- 48:49What are we doing here? Like.
- 48:51I thought that was of this hard choice.
- 48:54Even Jr., who's commentating on what's actually happening, and
- 48:58they take, they take Stephanie out of a cage, like a storage
- 49:01cage that's in the back of the arena.
- 49:03Bowels. Of the arena, pal.
- 49:06But like they even say Jr. says it looks like they're headed
- 49:09down to the ring and then you get back from commercial and
- 49:12it's friggin X pocket. Yeah, more X Pock.
- 49:15He's out there. He calls out Kane.
- 49:17He looks at the entrance, gets jumped by Owen Hart and Jeff
- 49:20Jarrett. Lights go out and Kane makes the
- 49:22save. X Pock asks what his problem is
- 49:26and you know, he confronts him. He gets choke slammed once again
- 49:29and then Kane carries him off and it's so romantic.
- 49:33That's so romantic. That's him on his shoulder.
- 49:36Yeah, it puts him over his shoulder and carries him out.
- 49:39Like a damsel in distress, Yeah. All right, let's get to this
- 49:42final segment because that is why we're here this week
- 49:44discussing this episode of Monday Night Raw.
- 49:47It's the the dark wedding. We're here for it.
- 49:50I think it's such an iconic Monday Night Raw moment.
- 49:55The lights go out, ministries, music starts to play, and it's
- 49:59like just this perfect build. It's got the classic like, like
- 50:03lights out, but only the purple light with a little bit of the
- 50:06fog look. And the ministry comes out with
- 50:10Stephanie. She's in that same gown and
- 50:12she's tied to the undertaker's symbol, which is like a giant
- 50:16cross. What do they refer to it as?
- 50:19Not a cross. They refuse to call it a cross
- 50:21the entire time because I'm sure they don't want it to, to come
- 50:25across as a crucifixion. But in the same breath, that's
- 50:28what we're looking. At but.
- 50:29The Undertaker symbol is AT with the X through it as well, right?
- 50:34It's the classic Undertaker logo that he wears on the side of his
- 50:37tights forever and ever, especially during this time
- 50:40period. But it, it's that massive piece
- 50:44of metal and it looks like they've done a really good job
- 50:47of like trying to make this look like it's made out of stone.
- 50:50Obviously it's not. But they hang this thing up,
- 50:52they drag it in, they drag it into the ring.
- 50:55Essentially, Stephanie is just sitting in the ring by herself,
- 50:58tied to the the symbol Undertaker's symbol.
- 51:01Lights are still out. Lights are still out.
- 51:03Now they have a spotlight on Stephanie as they prop the
- 51:07cross. I'm just going to call it a
- 51:08cross onto the top rope and it's just, it's a scene, man, like.
- 51:13This it really is. It's.
- 51:14One of those situations where you know your wife or your
- 51:18mother at the back in 1999 will walk in on and while you're
- 51:22watching wrestling and you're like.
- 51:23It'll be nice. Yeah.
- 51:25Oh, 100%. Exactly that.
- 51:27This is one of those iconic times where you're like, how am
- 51:30I going to explain this one? Better than them hearing Nicole
- 51:34best talk about the the trombone and but but yeah, I.
- 51:38Agree, I completely. Agree, Stephanie.
- 51:40Stephanie. Also, I can't decide if I
- 51:44appreciate her acting chops or feel like she's definitely
- 51:48Vince's daughter. Because we're the goddamn tears.
- 51:51All right? Give me the tears, Steph.
- 51:53I All right, OK, all right, all right.
- 51:55I was about to say that I give her credit.
- 51:58Here, I do too. No, I do too.
- 51:59I do too. I I enjoyed it and I thought she
- 52:02did a really a really good job for the time and what we're
- 52:06watching. She also, I said this earlier,
- 52:09she looks so incredibly young in 22 when she's on there like it,
- 52:14it's it's insane. She looks 22, like Mike said,
- 52:18she looks younger than 22 actually.
- 52:22So anyway, so she she's on there and Undertaker then gets on the
- 52:27mic as, as he says, this is on Vince's shoulders and Austin has
- 52:32shown his true colors. And then Paul Bearer opens up
- 52:35his book and starts reading what sounds like the opening of a
- 52:38marriage ceremony. We're here today to join
- 52:41Stephanie and the Undertaker in holy wedlock.
- 52:45And Stephanie, you just hear her.
- 52:47She's got no mic up to her. You can just hear her screaming.
- 52:50No, no, she sells it really well.
- 52:54She looks like she's terrified. Yeah, so.
- 52:58The whole scene is really well done because the first person
- 53:01out is Ken Shamrock. He runs out with his ball bat
- 53:06and the acolytes take him down immediately. 1 pins the legs
- 53:10down, one pill pins the arms and the ball bat down and Viscera
- 53:15puts a big splash on him laying him out right away, which is.
- 53:18Like a viscera bellow. It says that where that came
- 53:24from, I didn't know what it was it.
- 53:26It does make sense that it's viscera.
- 53:31We come, we cut to the back and and Shane is like kind of
- 53:35conflicted and the corporation is conflicted again because like
- 53:41Shane and Vince are butting heads at this time.
- 53:43So Shane, you know, tells him no, not yet, don't go out yet.
- 53:47Paul Bear continues to read as Big Show comes out.
- 53:50He takes out the acolytes and Viscera only for the Undertaker
- 53:54to take him at with the ball bat.
- 53:57Stop calling it the ball bat and the rest of the ministry just
- 54:01hammers on big show on the floor as Bearer announces the union
- 54:05the the holy union. He says to kiss the bride and
- 54:10let's listen then. Let's listen to go because it
- 54:13requires the audio and don't don't ruin it, just let the
- 54:16listener enjoy and. They're on him now.
- 54:19They're on him. Harvested in me by the Lord of
- 54:23Darkness, I now pronounce you as the unholy union of darkness.
- 54:29You may now kiss your. Bride Oh, for God's sake,
- 54:33gossip, here it comes. Don't go, don't go.
- 54:47I wish we could just continue to watch that whole thing because
- 54:50it is like it. The whole segment is incredibly
- 54:55well done. You know, like with the other
- 54:57top baby faces coming out trying to to make an effort to help.
- 55:01Like you're not going to see D Lo Brown or Val Venus come out,
- 55:04but you know, you got the big guns like Big Show and and Ken
- 55:07Shamrock. It makes you think Austin might
- 55:10not come, too. Right, exactly.
- 55:12But then, oh God, it's just one of those things where you hear
- 55:15the glass break and you still get a little bit of chills and
- 55:18you're like, God, I'm so good. I didn't mention either.
- 55:24Like throughout the whole thing, when Paul Bearer is reading out
- 55:27of his book, Undertaker is just like awkwardly caressing
- 55:30Stephanie's face, like palming it and like it just the whole
- 55:34thing is really strange and very oddly done.
- 55:38I. Love that while Nick is
- 55:40describing it, he has his hand against his own face and it's
- 55:44it's covering Phantom of the Opera.
- 55:47Yeah, it's, it's very strange the way like the way he does it.
- 55:51But Austin charges down as we just listened to he runs over
- 55:55Midian before destroying the Undertaker.
- 56:00He finds a chair and the chair shot that he lands on Bradshaw's
- 56:04head is so uncomfortable to watch.
- 56:07He's just like, see the dent happening.
- 56:10Yeah, and then he skims Farooq's head with it after.
- 56:15It's skim. That's the perfect word because
- 56:17that's it's like tops the top of it.
- 56:20Man, Viscera and and Midian both take the chair shots as the
- 56:24ministry runs off. Austin looks at Stephanie,
- 56:27unties her from the symbol and you know he's the hero and and
- 56:31Stephanie gives him a big hug. Vince doesn't hug her back.
- 56:35Finally, we get Vince come out. Austin just stands there with
- 56:39his hands up like like don't shoot, you know, like as as
- 56:44Vince now comes down but Austin does not hug Stephanie back,
- 56:47which I thought was an interesting choice but obviously
- 56:49makes sense, especially as Big Boss is about to come down.
- 56:54Right Vince comes out, you know, as the the father and daughter
- 56:57hug it out and Vince thanks Austin to end the show.
- 57:00It's just like it's such an interesting layer to the whole
- 57:04Vince and Austin story and I I I love it.
- 57:08It's like your classic hero standing up to the bad guy to
- 57:12save the damsel in distress. And it's.
- 57:14It's funny that you say that because did you notice how many
- 57:18times Jr. had to get across that?
- 57:20Austin isn't doing it for Vince. He's doing it because it's the
- 57:23right thing to do. He says it three different
- 57:27times. Oh my.
- 57:28God Minute and 1/2, he just has to drive home that Austin is
- 57:32doing what's right. Not because it's for Vince
- 57:34McMahon. You know that that's something
- 57:37that Vince had to drive. Home of like 0100.
- 57:39Percent. So dare tell me he's helping.
- 57:46Oh. God, all right, so this episode
- 57:48of raw there's there's there's nothing Halloweeny about it.
- 57:55Like there's nothing. There's no pumpkins, there's no
- 57:57costumes, but the end is just it's creepy and it's like
- 58:03fantastic storytelling if you ask me, like and I think it fits
- 58:06so well for Halloween. I'm going to go first.
- 58:09I'm giving this four cans in the cooler because I thoroughly
- 58:14enjoyed it Took me. It just took me back this
- 58:18episode. It's not like there's anything
- 58:21before this end segment that is fantastic or must see.
- 58:25It just brought me back. I felt like I was in 1999.
- 58:29I was in high school. I felt like I was watching
- 58:31Monday Night Raw and I don't know.
- 58:33For me it delivered, especially the ending.
- 58:36It totally delivered for me. I thought that you were going to
- 58:39go higher, to be honest with you.
- 58:40It is that I said it before. It's that sweet spot for
- 58:45Attitude Era nostalgia. That's exactly what this is.
- 58:48I'm going to go 4 1/2. And it's not because of the
- 58:51wrestling in any way, shape or form.
- 58:53Quite frankly, the wrestling on this card is awful.
- 58:56It's dogs, but the storytelling and the flow of the episode,
- 59:01There is a flow of this episode where there is this drawn out
- 59:05story throughout the entire evening and you are following
- 59:08along every single segment. I wish I'd actually walked
- 59:11through and like counted the number of times that you either
- 59:15see Vince or this segment as a whole or this story as a whole
- 59:18throughout the entirety of the hour and a half.
- 59:21It's. Not even, it's not even just
- 59:22that story. They're trying to weave in the
- 59:24whole ex PAC and cane thing throughout it and and you know,
- 59:29Venus and and just everything it's, I don't know, it's really
- 59:33well done the. Ability for them to tell
- 59:37multiple stories throughout one evening and all give them you
- 59:42know, it's just do I know that, you know, Austin, obviously, and
- 59:46and this whole, you know, Undertaker storyline is going to
- 59:48get the majority of it. But you sprinkle in these other
- 59:51things that keep the episode rolling and it wasn't a time
- 59:54where you're like, it feels like a slog.
- 59:57You know, it doesn't like trying to force yourself to finish the
- 1:00:00homework. I like sat down and was just
- 1:00:02eating it up. 100%. Just like Beaver cleavage was in
- 1:00:06that that. I'd be curious, I'd be curious
- 1:00:10if you could see the breakdown of time, like there's probably
- 1:00:13what, 25 minutes of wrestling in this whole thing of like an hour
- 1:00:17and a half. And that's fine.
- 1:00:18And I know there's plenty of people back then that couldn't
- 1:00:20stand that and they didn't like that direction of the company.
- 1:00:23But as a high school kid and like watching it back 26 years
- 1:00:28later or 25 years, whatever it is, it I I thought it delivered.
- 1:00:33I I did too, Mikey, what you got?
- 1:00:35100% delivered. I, I'll give it a 4 1/2 as well.
- 1:00:39You know, just, I was entertained back then.
- 1:00:43I was entertained. Now I I would watch it again
- 1:00:46just from the iconic segment with Stephanie to all the
- 1:00:54backstage segments to even the matches and even the parts were,
- 1:01:00you know, the wrestle crap parts were like, right, you know,
- 1:01:031999. It's meat and Beaver cleavage.
- 1:01:06Like it's just enough. Of it, it's just.
- 1:01:08Enough of it. Little little bits and pieces
- 1:01:11like to snack on for you. Yeah, like, like I said earlier
- 1:01:15when we first started, I feel like when I watched this
- 1:01:17episode, I remembered watching it in high school in 1999 and I,
- 1:01:23it just like took me back. There's so much of this episode
- 1:01:26that I remembered actually watching.
- 1:01:28When you, when you think back to Austin, there's like those
- 1:01:32iconic, iconic moments and you know, the milk truck and stuff
- 1:01:36like that. I feel like this is like the
- 1:01:38second tier of that and the glass breaking and the massive
- 1:01:42pop that happens after that. Him coming down, running in and
- 1:01:46delivering this massive clothesline to Midian and then
- 1:01:49he tumbles, does a somersault down the aisle way just because
- 1:01:53of the the amount of force that he put into that clothesline.
- 1:01:55Like this is one of those classic moments of Austin
- 1:01:59hitting the ring to finish off night and to just pop the crowd
- 1:02:03in the this way possible. And it felt really friggin good
- 1:02:06to watch it and. What a story this was too.
- 1:02:10Yes, absolutely. And as an awesome guy, checks
- 1:02:13every box. This made me want like, if, if,
- 1:02:18if WWE had their network or had their ducks in a row, This made
- 1:02:22me want to tune into the next week of raw and, and, and
- 1:02:26backtrack and be like, where did they go the following week and
- 1:02:30the week after and leading up to Backlash over the Edge where,
- 1:02:34you know, so for, for me, that's cool.
- 1:02:37And you know, like when I watch my TV shows, that's what I want.
- 1:02:40I want something that's going to hook me into the next episode.
- 1:02:44Yeah, so you remember Over the Edge, the title match was Austin
- 1:02:48versus the Undertaker. Undertaker beats him.
- 1:02:51Right, Yep, good stuff. All right, so thank you guys for
- 1:02:58listening to this this spooky episode.
- 1:03:00The next episode that we're going to drop is going to land
- 1:03:02in November. So I, I think you have an idea
- 1:03:06of where we're headed with that as we rapidly approach not only
- 1:03:12not only our 200th episode, but our five year anniversary, which
- 1:03:16is bonkers to me. We're going to keep talking
- 1:03:19about it. We're going to keep building it
- 1:03:20up. We we're going to figure
- 1:03:21something out and it's going to be a of banger.
- 1:03:24I'm really excited for it. I can't wait for that.
- 1:03:28I can't wait for episode 195 in two weeks.
- 1:03:31So cheers to everybody out there listening.
- 1:03:34I hope you guys enjoyed this episode.
- 1:03:35Thank you again to all your friends about the extra cooler
- 1:03:38show. We'll see you next Week. 2
- 1:03:41weeks. One more thing.
- 1:03:43Yeah, I want to give a special shout out to have a happy early
- 1:03:48birthday to the gobbledygooker himself.
- 1:03:49Yes, yes, this is going to drop in in between those.
- 1:03:53So happy early birthday, Matt. Well, thank you.
- 1:03:57I didn't know I was the gobbledygooker, but I
- 1:03:59appreciate. It today but.
- 1:04:00You are today. Yes.
- 1:04:03Here's the 43. Yeah, how about that?
- 1:04:05Yeah. Welcome to the club, almost.
- 1:04:07Yeah, last one, last one. Cheers guys.
- 1:04:11See you. I now put out you as the unholy
- 1:04:16you.