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Lessons - The Exact Strategy That Pulled Me Back From Financial Ruin | Luke Lintz - Business Recovery Expert · Success Story with Scott Clary

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  In this lessons episode, discover how to manage overwhelming stress during your first business venture.
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  Learn how to build resilience in the face of debt, uncertainty, and pressure.
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  Understand how early life experiences can shape your mindset and uncover healthier ways to cope
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  while staying productive and focused.
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  So what would be the advice for somebody who's going through their first business and is in debt
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  and owes investors money or owes somebody money and they're just trying to figure out,
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  you know, how do I, how do I keep going when I'm dealing with all this bullshit because all this
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  bullshit is normal for entrepreneurs, for anybody who's taken a risk and built something,
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  but for the first time you're going through it is very stressful.
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  So what's the advice for people like how did you go through it? Was it just,
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  because you could have gone two ways, you could have said, I'm never fucking doing this again,
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  your families, they're supportive, but they're probably all like a little bit pissed off.
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  So what do you, what do you suggest to that first time entrepreneur?
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  Yeah, the go in the two ways is very true. It's kind of like with a lot of things.
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  Like for example, if you grow up in a household that's extremely toxic, a lot of the kids grow up
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  two different ways. One, they take those toxic attributes and they bring that into their adult life
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  or the second way is they want to get as far away from that as possible.
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  And so they do everything they can to get as far away. It's usually like very polar opposite.
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  And so like I think that's very similar with going the two ways when you're under extreme
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  amount of stress and entrepreneurship, especially when it's your first business.
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  For me, just when you were asking that question, I was thinking back to the mindset I was in back then.
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  And I remember it being so hard every single day, I would wake up with so much stress on my mind
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  constantly. And what I would do is I would just numb myself out from reality by just going straight
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  to my desk every single day and literally working 14 to 16 hours a day. I wouldn't talk with anybody.
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  I wouldn't say anything if people asked about how the business was going. I wouldn't talk about
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  it because it was just so much pain inside. And so I really just thought that I could work through it.
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  And if I was working constantly, that I would get to a place where I was out of this pain,
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  of this stress. And it's very interesting that me and my brother have constant conversations.
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  Now my brothers, so like because our little brothers are completely part of the business as well.
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  And we actually look back on those times and reminisce on those times. I laugh at them,
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  you know, it's literally in such a good way. It's like wow, like because it's such it's such a
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  perspective shift of being able to have such a low point in your life where now I'm able to,
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  like now I go through hard times still, you can't get away from problems in life. It's not possible.
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  Problems go through every stage of life. And if you go down a street and look at people who are
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  walking down the street, every single person is facing their own problems, whether they're rich,
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  poor, whether they're happily married, every single person has their own problems. And so
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  being able to have that perspective shift of looking back on like what you thought was just,
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  you know, just the worst time of your entire life is pretty, pretty fun.
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  Well, it's good. After he got there, it's not good in there. Do you think that the way you dealt
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  with it is the best way to deal with it? And I don't have an opinion or I don't know what the best
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  way to deal with it is I've never had, oh, my family, $300,000. That to me would be super stressful.
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  I don't know how I deal with that. I don't know if I deal with it well at all. I mean, I've had
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  investor money before, but it's like different when it's family because you don't want to lose
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  anyone's money. You don't want to invest your money either, of course. But family, it's like,
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  family's going to be with you forever, no matter what, no matter what business fails, they're
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  going to be around. So how do you think that was like the smartest way? And not just,
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  not just don't answer that question just from the perspective of like this specific problem,
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  answer from the perspective of any time you're dealing with something that is a degree more stress
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  than you're used to dealing with. What is like the healthiest way to work through that?
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  Because even if you owed somebody family, $300,000 or you owed investors $10 million and things
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  aren't going well, what's like the way to work through that? So you can still be effective,
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  but you don't like you still protect your mental health? Yeah, I personally believe that
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  there are so many statistics out there about stress killing and stress causing diseases inside
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  of your body and stress being the biggest cause of cancer, stress being the biggest leading
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  indicator of early death. I think stress kills more than any single other thing, any workout routines,
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  any any health diets, all of that. I think stress kills more than that. So I think figuring out
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  ways to eradicate stress of your life is the number one priority that people should be working towards.
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  And it's very, very difficult during times like that where you know, it is very stressful like being
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  $300,000 in debt at such a young age. What I did was I just numb myself out from reality
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  as much as possible. And I created a safe space with work. So everything else outside of work wasn't
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  safe and work was safe. And so I still have this to this day where every single morning, most of the
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  time I wake up with anxiety, even though there's not really anything to be anxious about. And it's
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  because for a four year period of time, I train myself to every single day I wake up, I wake up
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  with anxiety to get as fast as possible to my computer desk to start working. And so it's like your
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  your brain is a computer and it can be trained. And when you train and start away for such a long
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  period of time, it's very hard to train it out of that. Do you think that's healthy? No, I don't
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  need to tell you at all. It definitely. I didn't know that's how you are. Yeah. Yeah. You like,
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  so when you work, when you first start working every morning, it's from a place of, it's almost
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  from a place of like a little bit of fear, very anxiety-based. And is that, I mean, that thing that
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  happened with your family when you were young and you owed the money. How long did that last? How long
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  was that period? Oh, wow. Three years. Three years. Yeah. That's some trauma, dude. Yeah. That's
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  some trauma built up trauma. So when you talk about like stress being like a silent killer,
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  have you, I mean, this is say what you want to say, but you've not tried to like do work to try
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  and unwind that trauma. For sure. Because now you don't have these money issues. You have
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  business, you have stress, but you don't have like you have experience. You understand that
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  $300,000 first of all is not a lot of money in business contacts, but it can be repaid. Any
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  amount of money can be repaid and any amount and no problems are so significant enough,
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  especially what we're dealing with. I mean, maybe there are people that have much bigger problems
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  than us than they do, but the stuff that we deal with on a day-to-day, even in a business,
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  even if it's doing very well, you're still going to be alive tomorrow. The business is going to keep
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  carrying on. So have you tried to like go through like, I don't know like therapy or anything like
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  fast that you don't approach each day with trauma, but like you have a different perspective? Dude,
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  for sure. Yeah. I've been in therapy for the past 10 months, weekly. So this is more of a new thing.
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  For sure. And do you find that it's working? Yeah. The therapy that I go to wasn't directly
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  for stress. It was mainly for relationships and it was because of like childhood trauma that was
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  built up and created the type of person I am. But a lot of things, a lot of the problems that we face
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  today, I think come from childhood experiences. And so unpacking a lot of the things that I
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  faced as a child in my childhood was able to give me more clarity in terms of how I operate day-to-day,
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  even so much as why do I operate from an anxiety-based framework and why do I operate where I feel the
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  need to be constantly working? And it comes from childhood of the feeling of not being good enough
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  for only being good if I perform in a certain way and things that are trained into you. I mean,
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  sometimes, sometimes, like, someone's dark side can actually help them in their career. And it
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  seems like it actually has helped you in your business, but it may not be the healthiest way
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  to do what you do. And you thought about that before, like, your dark side helping you? For sure.
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  Yeah. I think my childhood and my dark side, like you're saying, has helped me tremendously in
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  business, but has been a huge detriment in every single other area of my life. What was the thing
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  in your childhood that you think led to this feeling of anxiety? It was probably just
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  sort of further doubled down on when you owed your family some money. I'm sure that didn't help
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  at all, but it came from much earlier. Well, we get unpack a lot here. Like, I could speak about
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  this for hours. Like, I spoke hundreds of hours of my therapist. Yeah. But yeah, my parents went
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  through a divorce when I was at a very young age. And the thing that was very unique about our
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  situation and very difficult was the child custody case. And so whenever two parents get divorced
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  with kids, like, if they can't work it out themselves, then it goes to the court system to be
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  able to figure out the child custody. And sometimes it goes like 50 50 or sometimes like they can't
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  agree on anything. And so we started off 50 50 between our mom and our dad. And then our mom
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  pretty much like completely parental alienated us from our dad. And so people don't necessarily
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  know what parental alienation is. But it's basically like instilling beliefs and instilling
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  sort of thought systems inside of a kid's mind. That's like very susceptible to, you know,
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  yeah, influence. And so she instilled these thoughts that her dad wasn't safe and that the only
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  person that was safe was basically her. And pretty crazy thoughts like things like sexual abuse inside
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  inside of our minds when it never really happened. And then it would lead to so many different
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  things where we went into CFS, which is basically like child custody services in Canada. And
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  all of these things. And that brought its own set of problems. But basically within all of that,
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  I was the person who stayed quiet throughout it all. So I was like the stationary ones.
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  Stay quiet. The majority of brothers. Yeah, like my older brother was the one who talked
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  to adamantly about a lot of things because he was the one who my mom like mainly worked with.
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  So to speak. And then my little brother acted out throughout all of them. And so he basically
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  was deemed that he had ADHD. And so he got put on medication at a very young age. And it led
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  to his own problems with that that he has been able to get over tremendously. And he's an amazing
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  human being now. But myself, what I did was I just stayed quiet. And so I went through a period of,
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  you know, getting a very lack of attention. And this is trauma building up. Yeah, I'm not saying
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  anything else, speaking out. You're not dealing with that. Yeah. And so like my parents, well,
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  my dad ended up getting custody of us. And he grew us into like the people we are today, the
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  men we are today. And so like my dad is the person who I have to thank for the people who me and my
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  brothers are today. And the reason we are today, he was an amazing dad with the stuff that he was given.
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  And you know, the situation that that was. But yeah, throughout all that, it was the lack of
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  attention that I had. It was that I was never really taught how to showcase my emotions. And
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  to acknowledge my emotions inside of my head. And then to actually communicate those emotions.
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  And so it led to just the ridiculous amount of problems. But in business, it was definitely,
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  it definitely helped me out in the business. Thanks for tuning in. If you found this valuable,
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