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- 0:08Parents from one of the failing
- 0:10middle schools put in the Austin
- 0:11School District at risk of a state
- 0:13takeover met with the superintendent
- 0:14this week to discuss their future,
- 0:16the questions they brought to that
- 0:17discussion, and what we know about
- 0:19the upcoming trial of a man accused
- 0:21of killing six people in 2023
- 0:23in a shooting spree that started in
- 0:24San Antonio and ended in Austin.
- 0:27Plus, a federal judge has ruled in
- 0:28UT Austin's favor in a court case
- 0:30that arose from the university's
- 0:32handling of pro-Palestine
- 0:33demonstrations a couple years ago.
- 0:35More about those stories coming up
- 0:37on today's show.
- 0:38The Austin Signal is a production
- 0:40of KUT News, hosted by
- 0:42Jerry Quijano.
- 0:43It is a 9-2-5
- 0:46kind of day here at KUT and KUTX.
- 0:48We are going to chat with the
- 0:49executive producer of Austin City
- 0:51Limits and reflect on Dolly Parton's
- 0:53appearance on the show a quarter of
- 0:55a century ago.
- 0:56That and more, up next,
- 0:58right here on Austin Signal.
- 1:09This is Austin Signal.
- 1:11I'm your host Jerry Kikano.
- 1:12It is Friday, September 25th.
- 1:14Thank you for tuning in.
- 1:17This week's shooting of a man by an
- 1:18ICE officer in Austin has led to
- 1:20questions about the legal
- 1:21obligations of doctors and
- 1:23hospitals.
- 1:2428-Year-old Wilbur Garces Perez was
- 1:26shot in the back and taken to
- 1:27Delcetan Medical Center for
- 1:28treatment, but he and his lawyers
- 1:30have said they don't feel he
- 1:32received adequate care.
- 1:33Nearly one week later, he still has
- 1:35that bullet lodged in his back.
- 1:37KUT's Ben Philpott spoke live on
- 1:39Morning Edition today with our
- 1:41health care reporter Olivia Aldridge
- 1:43about these questions.
- 1:44All right, so let's start with what
- 1:46do Garces Perez and his lawyer
- 1:48say happened at Del Cidin?
- 1:50So they've said he spent around four
- 1:52hours at Delceiton before being
- 1:54discharged to a detention facility
- 1:56in Pearsall.
- 1:57And yes, that the bullet was not
- 1:58removed before he was discharged.
- 2:00While he was there, Garces Perez has
- 2:02said he doesn't feel that he was
- 2:03kept informed about his condition,
- 2:06that he frequently saw medical
- 2:07personnel stepping out to talk with
- 2:09agents, and that he told
- 2:11by someone that ICE was in a hurry
- 2:13to get him out.
- 2:15And then his lawyer, Kate Lincoln
- 2:16Goldfinch, said that she and Garces
- 2:18Perez's wife weren't allowed to
- 2:20visit him, nor were they given any
- 2:21information about his condition.
- 2:23And in fact, that security personnel
- 2:25told them no one by his name was
- 2:27even there.
- 2:28So they were worried about his
- 2:29conditions, and even if he was alive
- 2:31at that time, eventually the mayor
- 2:32showed up, Mayor Kirk Watson,
- 2:35and said that they would hear from a
- 2:36hospital attorney, and that attorney
- 2:37let them know that he'd been
- 2:38released.
- 2:39You and I talked about this a little
- 2:41bit yesterday and I wanted to jump
- 2:42on it real quickly.
- 2:43So the bullet is still in his back.
- 2:45You talked to some medical experts
- 2:47who talked a little about,
- 2:49you know, is that a red
- 2:50flag? Like, do you just let people
- 2:52leave an emergency room with a
- 2:54bullet in their back? What did you
- 2:55hear about that?
- 2:56Yeah, an ER physician and
- 2:58who's kind of an expert in caring
- 2:59for detained immigrants as well told
- 3:01me that it is actually not
- 3:03necessarily a red flag that he
- 3:04was discharged with the bullet still
- 3:06in his body as wild as that may
- 3:08sound.
- 3:08This happens not infrequently when,
- 3:11for instance, a bullet is close to
- 3:12the spine because surgery could be
- 3:13really dangerous. It could leave you
- 3:15paralyzed.
- 3:16It's also not uncommon for a patient
- 3:17to be stabilized and then referred
- 3:19to another specialist to decide if
- 3:21surgery is a good idea.
- 3:22So then beyond that, what is the
- 3:24hospital saying about the care that
- 3:25he received?
- 3:26Ascension Seaton, which owns and
- 3:28operates Dell Seaton did release a
- 3:30statement basically just saying we
- 3:31followed our policies regarding
- 3:33interactions with law enforcement
- 3:35and patient privacy here, but
- 3:36they declined to share what those
- 3:38policies are.
- 3:39So not a lot of detail.
- 3:40And of course, they can't share
- 3:41Garces Perez's private medical
- 3:43information due to privacy laws.
- 3:45So there are a lot of specifics that
- 3:47we just don't have at this point.
- 3:49You know, overall, what is a
- 3:50hospital's obligation in a situation
- 3:52like this?
- 3:53Because of a law known as EMTALA,
- 3:56hospitals in emergency rooms that
- 3:57receive Medicare funding are
- 3:59required to give stabilizing care
- 4:01to anyone that shows up with an
- 4:02emergency condition.
- 4:04They can't discharge them before
- 4:05that's happened.
- 4:06And that doesn't change because
- 4:08someone is in ICE custody.
- 4:10I did talk to some medical and legal
- 4:11experts about this, and
- 4:13again, they say we can't
- 4:15sure if there were any issues in the
- 4:17hospitals.
- 4:18On the hospital's end without being
- 4:19able to review those medical
- 4:21records.
- 4:22And his lawyer has said that they
- 4:23are in the process of
- 4:25trying to get those records.
- 4:26And again, as you said, stabilizing
- 4:28care, as surprising as it
- 4:30might sound to the rest of us,
- 4:32stabilizing care can include
- 4:33at times, depending on the situation
- 4:35that the bullet is left in.
- 4:37It can, it can.
- 4:38It's hard to know what the case was
- 4:40here, but that does happen.
- 4:42So now again, as of this morning,
- 4:44that bullet is still there, and
- 4:45Garces Perez says that he is still
- 4:47in pain and does not have access to
- 4:49pain medication.
- 4:50That's of course what we're hearing
- 4:51from him and his lawyer.
- 4:52Is there a concern in general that
- 4:55he's just not receiving the care
- 4:56that he needs?
- 4:58Yeah, I mean, DHS is saying, of
- 4:59course, basically nothing to see
- 5:01here, that he's getting good medical
- 5:03care. But there's been a lot of
- 5:04reporting about medical neglect in
- 5:06ICE detention facilities this year.
- 5:09The doctor I spoke to told me she
- 5:11would be worried about a patient in
- 5:13that setting who has had any kind
- 5:14of medical concern getting
- 5:15appropriate follow-up care.
- 5:18We do know that Garces Perez has
- 5:19been to another hospital since being
- 5:21taken to the detention center,
- 5:23received some morphine, although he
- 5:25says he's only gotten
- 5:25over-the-counter at the detention
- 5:27center.
- 5:28And Congressman Greg Kazar also said
- 5:30this week that Garces Perez
- 5:32has seen a specialist who has
- 5:34recommended surgery.
- 5:35Now, it's early in the morning, you
- 5:37haven't had a chance to make all
- 5:38your calls yet. Do you know of a
- 5:40next step, of a thing that's coming
- 5:41for him in this medical care?
- 5:43We don't know. I think the fact that
- 5:45we've heard that surgery is
- 5:46recommended means, you know,
- 5:48something could be coming.
- 5:51That was KUT's healthcare reporter
- 5:53Olivia Aldridge talking on Morning
- 5:54Edition with host Ben Philpott.
- 6:02Parents of two middle schools have
- 6:03three weeks to decide if they will
- 6:05sacrifice their schools to save the
- 6:07Austin Independent School District
- 6:08from a state takeover.
- 6:10To help answer any questions,
- 6:12Superintendent Matias Segura met
- 6:13with families at Webb Middle School
- 6:15on Thursday night.
- 6:16KUT's education reporter, Greta
- 6:18Diaz-Gonzalez-Vasquez was there.
- 6:21After Burnett and Webb middle
- 6:22schools got five consecutive
- 6:24F-ratings from the Texas Education
- 6:25Agency, Texas law says the
- 6:27state must intervene in the
- 6:29district.
- 6:30Education Commissioner Mike Morath
- 6:31could appoint a new superintendent
- 6:33at board of trustees.
- 6:35But there's a chance to avoid that
- 6:36if a majority of parents from the
- 6:38two middle schools ask the state to
- 6:40close their campuses.
- 6:41Superintendent Matias Segura
- 6:43explained to Parents Thursday that
- 6:44at this point, the
- 6:49He said their input would be heard
- 6:51if they asked to close the campuses.
- 6:53One of the only voices you have
- 6:55is the petition.
- 6:56I mean, that's really, in the day,
- 6:58one of the things that you have.
- 6:59Okay, but what if we don't want to
- 7:00sign the petition?
- 7:01That is you all's
- 7:04decision.
- 7:04Earlier this month, Mayor Kirk
- 7:06Watson urged parents to close their
- 7:08schools and said kids from both
- 7:09schools would be placed in a new
- 7:11campus currently under construction.
- 7:14Segura said he would not be involved
- 7:15in gathering signatures because the
- 7:17district is focused on improving
- 7:18academic outcomes.
- 7:20And whatever happens next, this year
- 7:21matters.
- 7:22But I can't, I'm not gonna sit here
- 7:25and tell you something that is
- 7:27untrue.
- 7:28Webb is going to go through a
- 7:30change. It will not be the
- 7:31same next year.
- 7:33And what I want to do is to protect
- 7:35our students, make sure they are
- 7:37educated and get the supports that
- 7:38they need and that your voice is in
- 7:40the process.
- 7:40Segura explained that even if a
- 7:42board of managers takes over,
- 7:44Webb could face big changes,
- 7:46changes that could include
- 7:47shuttering the campus anyways.
- 7:49Georgina Chavez, who has two girls
- 7:51at Webb, says it breaks her
- 7:53heart to know her options.
- 7:55She says a lot of parents don't have
- 7:56the right information to make a
- 7:58decision.
- 8:00Chavez says families have no
- 8:02idea that this is the last school
- 8:04year for Webb as they know it.
- 8:10Parents have until October 15th
- 8:13to gather signatures and submit a
- 8:14petition to the superintendent who
- 8:16would submit the petition to state.
- 8:19Segura is expected to meet with
- 8:20parents again on Monday at Burnett
- 8:22Middle School and online on
- 8:24Tuesday morning.
- 8:25I'm Greta Diaz Gonzalez Vazquez
- 8:27in Austin.
- 8:29A federal judge has ruled in favor
- 8:31of UT Austin in a court case
- 8:32stemming from the university's
- 8:34handling of pro-Palestine
- 8:35demonstrations in 2024.
- 8:38As KUT's Mo's Bouchel reports,
- 8:40the lawsuit brought by a former
- 8:41student alleged the university had
- 8:43violated protesters' First Amendment
- 8:45rights.
- 8:46In 2024, campuses across
- 8:48the country filled with students
- 8:50opposed to Israeli actions
- 8:52in Gaza.
- 8:53At UT Austin, police shut down
- 8:55demonstrations and arrested over 100
- 8:57people, though most of those charges
- 8:58were quickly dropped.
- 9:00The First Amendment lawsuit was
- 9:02brought by Amir Kadoumi, a protest
- 9:04organizer who was arrested
- 9:06and later suspended by UT.
- 9:08It alleged that the university's
- 9:09crackdown happened not to maintain
- 9:11safety, but because of what
- 9:13protesters were saying.
- 9:15In his ruling, U.S.
- 9:16District Court Judge Robert Pittman
- 9:18found no evidence of free speech
- 9:20violation, finding that UT
- 9:22administration reasonably suspected
- 9:24the protests would disrupt campus.
- 9:26While he sided with UT on
- 9:28the First Amendment question, Judge
- 9:30Pittman did criticize the
- 9:31university's handling of the
- 9:33protests and said he understood
- 9:35why Kadoumi would suspect his
- 9:37rights had been violated.
- 9:39I'm Mose Buchel in Austin.
- 9:41A man accused of killing six people
- 9:43in 2023 in a shooting spree
- 9:45that started in San Antonio and
- 9:47ended in Austin is going to trial
- 9:48next month.
- 9:50As KUT's Andrew Weber reports,
- 9:52filings this week suggest he may
- 9:53enter an insanity plea.
- 9:56Shane James allegedly killed his
- 9:57parents in San Antonio before
- 9:59driving to Austin and fatally
- 10:00shooting four people.
- 10:02He's also accused of injuring two
- 10:03police officers and a cyclist.
- 10:05He faces four counts of capital
- 10:07murder, along with counts of
- 10:08aggravated assault with a deadly
- 10:10weapon, and attempted murder of
- 10:12a police officer.
- 10:13His jury trial in Travis County is
- 10:14set for next month, and his attorney
- 10:16indicated this week that he will
- 10:18use an insanity defense at trial.
- 10:20The accused shooter was deemed unfit
- 10:22to stand trial in October 2024.
- 10:25He was committed to a mental health
- 10:26facility until July 2025.
- 10:29James pleaded not guilty on all
- 10:30charges shortly after that.
- 10:32James previously served in the army
- 10:34and had a history of mental health
- 10:36issues. The jury trial is scheduled
- 10:38to start October 26th in a Travis
- 10:40County court.
- 10:41James also faces capital murder
- 10:43charges in Bexar County.
- 10:44I'm Andrew Weber in Austin.
- 10:47Lots of people are talking about it.
- 10:49Some want to stay far, far
- 10:51away from it, and for others, it's
- 10:52already a part of their everyday
- 10:54life.
- 10:55We're talking about artificial
- 10:57intelligence and especially
- 10:58generative AI.
- 11:00Texas Standard is gearing up for a
- 11:01special Digging Deeper into AI
- 11:03here in Texas.
- 11:05Joining us now is Laura Rice,
- 11:07managing editor at Texas Standard.
- 11:08Laura, thanks for talking with us.
- 11:10Absolutely happy to
- 11:11Okay, so we have been hearing a
- 11:13lot about AI on the radio So
- 11:14what did you want to learn
- 11:16specifically about how Texans are
- 11:17using AI?
- 11:18Really, I think, Jerry, what we
- 11:20wanted to do was examine this
- 11:22moment that feels like kind of a
- 11:24turning point in history.
- 11:26I will admit readily that this
- 11:28is a fool's errand trying to do a
- 11:29show about AI because not only
- 11:31is it affecting life
- 11:33in so many different ways that it
- 11:35would be impossible to explore
- 11:36everything, but also It's
- 11:38such a moving target, right?
- 11:40Like what we're talking about AI
- 11:41today will be different than what we
- 11:43are talking about literally
- 11:44tomorrow. It's moving that quickly.
- 11:46So we wanted to put something
- 11:47together that captures a moment,
- 11:50that captures perspectives, tries to
- 11:51answer some questions about what we
- 11:53think is a turning point, maybe a
- 11:54pivotal moment in Texas.
- 11:56When you take a little bit of time
- 11:57to focus on a big topic like this,
- 11:59how much work goes into putting
- 12:01something together like this?
- 12:02I'm glad you asked here.
- 12:03I mean, it's a lot because we're
- 12:04still feeding the beast
- 12:06quote-unquote, right, of the daily
- 12:07program But you know, we're also
- 12:09just just carving out a little bit
- 12:11of time every day to kind of
- 12:13make this effort This has been
- 12:14something we started talking about
- 12:15before the summer We we knew that
- 12:17data centers were a big thing We
- 12:19were thinking about KUT's big
- 12:20project and our question was what
- 12:23is all this infrastructure going to
- 12:25support?
- 12:26And so that's what we're digging
- 12:27into in the program There are
- 12:29questions that we have that we want
- 12:31answers to and we assume, you know,
- 12:33our listeners do too.
- 12:34Absolutely, and you can hear the
- 12:35entire special coming up on Monday,
- 12:37but give us a little preview right
- 12:38now. Who are some of the people that
- 12:39you spoke with?
- 12:40A lot of Texans, so you'll hear a
- 12:41lot of regular Texas
- 12:43voices, a lot of Texas
- 12:45experts because there are people at
- 12:47our universities that are really
- 12:48pushing AI to its limits, testing
- 12:50that. We took a trip down to
- 12:52San Antonio where we met with some
- 12:55AI researchers working with robotics
- 12:57in their lab, but we also
- 12:59brought in some outside voices
- 13:00including Shaoran Sun
- 13:02who is studying how teenagers
- 13:04are reliant on AI
- 13:06companions.
- 13:07When their parents don't have time
- 13:09to have a lot of conversations with
- 13:11them or to spend time with them,
- 13:13and they feel like they
- 13:15don't have many friends or their
- 13:17friends are quote unquote busy,
- 13:19like don't wanna listen to them,
- 13:20that's usually what motivates them
- 13:22to use AI.
- 13:24Which brings up some really
- 13:25interesting questions about
- 13:27developmental things that might
- 13:29be happening with teenagers and
- 13:31whether they might have
- 13:33ungrounded expectations
- 13:35for human relationships going
- 13:37forward based on these AI
- 13:38companions.
- 13:40But we also asked some
- 13:42really big questions about
- 13:44AI consciousness,
- 13:46right? Which is this idea of we're
- 13:48developing these incredible
- 13:50systems.
- 13:51Are they aware of themselves?
- 13:54That's something that Cameron Berg
- 13:55is studying.
- 13:57That's my goal, is in general to
- 13:58understand what's going on
- 13:59cognitively for these systems, if
- 14:00anything, and in particular, is it,
- 14:03are these systems having any kind of
- 14:05experience subjectively and how
- 14:06would we even go about knowing such
- 14:08a thing?
- 14:09So we get a little bit woo woo,
- 14:11we get a little big grounded, we
- 14:12explore the what happens
- 14:14when you type in a query to
- 14:17chat GPT or Gemini.
- 14:19And we're also exploring some
- 14:21of the really nice things about
- 14:23it. I mean, AI has literally been
- 14:25life changing for some people with
- 14:27disabilities.
- 14:28And we take a deep dive into that,
- 14:30as well as the flip
- 14:32side of that coin, which is privacy
- 14:34issues.
- 14:35As you said, AI is an ever-changing
- 14:38entity. It feels like every day we
- 14:39learn something new.
- 14:41So during this journey of making
- 14:43this special episode, were you
- 14:44surprised by anything?
- 14:45Was there anything that really
- 14:46jumped out to you that you didn't
- 14:47expect to learn?
- 14:48Well, I think the AI consciousness
- 14:50is a really big part of it.
- 14:53And spoiler alert, there
- 14:54are, there is evidence
- 14:56that AI is more conscious than
- 14:59say this table that we're
- 15:00leaning on right here.
- 15:02It's not hugely conscious,
- 15:04but it's also changing quickly.
- 15:07Like we said, that moving target.
- 15:08So that's something that I was
- 15:10really excited to explore.
- 15:12And, and yeah, just about how
- 15:14regular everyday Texans feel about
- 15:15it. There's a lot of measured.
- 15:18A measured anticipation about what's
- 15:20happening, but then when you ask the
- 15:22experts, they see this potential and
- 15:24they some of them have
- 15:26some some warning flags that we
- 15:27should pay attention to.
- 15:28All right. Well, you can hear those
- 15:30experts and hear from Everyday
- 15:31Texans on the Texas Standards
- 15:33AI special that is airing Monday at
- 15:3510 a.m. Right here on KUT.
- 15:37And you can also listen on the TeXa
- 15:38Standard podcast if you can't tune
- 15:40in live.
- 15:41We have been speaking with Texas
- 15:42Standards' Laura Rice.
- 15:43Laura, thank you for your time.
- 15:44Thank you.
- 15:45And we're coming up on a break here
- 15:47on Austin Signal, but we got more
- 15:49coming up for you.
- 15:51Thank you for tuning in right here,
- 15:53on listener-supported public radio.
- 15:55This is KUT News.
- 16:01Welcome back, this is Austin
- 16:03Signal.
- 16:04It's been one month since the world
- 16:06lost Dolly Parton and today KUT
- 16:08and KUTX have been taking time to
- 16:10honor both her music and her spirit.
- 16:12Here to shine some light on one
- 16:13particular visit Dolly made to
- 16:15Austin is Terry Lacona, executive
- 16:16producer of Austin City Limits.
- 16:18Terry, thanks for being here.
- 16:19Happy to be here.
- 16:21Okay, well, Austin was lucky to
- 16:23host Dolly a number of times over
- 16:24the year, but Dolly didn't make it
- 16:26to the Austin City limits stage
- 16:27until 2000.
- 16:28How long had you been working to
- 16:30bring her to the stage?
- 16:31Oh, man, well, since, you know, ACL
- 16:33started in 1974,
- 16:35and back in those days,
- 16:37Dolly didn't really tour a whole lot
- 16:39on her own.
- 16:40I mean, in her early days, she did
- 16:42with Porter Wagoner when she'd been
- 16:43here in the 60s.
- 16:45And the only time she really came
- 16:47through Austin after ACL
- 16:49had been up and running was back
- 16:50in the 90s when she played at Austin
- 16:52Aquafest.
- 16:53And that's a story in itself, it was
- 16:55the end of Aquafes, and
- 16:57we didn't have a chance to get Dolly
- 16:58in the studio to do a show that
- 17:00week. BUTT So she finally came
- 17:02in 2000 after a
- 17:04long stretch of trying hard
- 17:06to get her here, and it was
- 17:08a great tour. She was out on tour
- 17:09with members of Nickel Creek, you
- 17:11know, the Bluegrass Acoustic Band.
- 17:13And so they were her backup and
- 17:15it made for a totally different
- 17:16show. Normally her live shows
- 17:18were very Nashville-ish, even almost
- 17:20Las Vegas-ish at times.
- 17:23So with an acoustic band, it
- 17:24really made it feel more Bluegrass-y
- 17:26and Roots-y, which is where she's
- 17:27from originally.
- 17:28So that was on January 18th
- 17:30There's some debate about the date.
- 17:32Some people have it as December 5,
- 17:34but I know that it was January 18
- 17:36because it was the night before her
- 17:38birthday.
- 17:39So we were celebrating that at the
- 17:40same time.
- 17:41And I actually watched that
- 17:43performance last night and it's
- 17:44very, very striking.
- 17:46And speaking of the Austin AquaFest,
- 17:48I read a little bit about that and
- 17:50the kind of debacle that it became,
- 17:52but one columnist wrote that Dolly
- 17:54Still was putting the show in
- 17:56show business.
- 17:57So when she made it to the ACL
- 17:58stage, what do you remember
- 17:59particularly about her
- 18:01It was less of that showiness,
- 18:03you know, because, like I said, it
- 18:05was with an acoustic bluegrass band.
- 18:08So although, of course, Dolly came
- 18:09out in fringe and
- 18:11sort of like a leather outfit
- 18:13because it's Dolly,
- 18:15but it was very down to earth, even
- 18:17a little more down to Earth than you
- 18:18would think of from Dolly Parton.
- 18:20So, and she did some
- 18:22new bluegrass songs that she was
- 18:24promoting at the time.
- 18:25Then of course, she did Coat of
- 18:27Any Colors and she ended the show
- 18:28with I Will Always Love You.
- 18:30So of course she had the whole audience
- 18:31in tears at that point.
- 18:33And you know, I'll never forget
- 18:35the words she said at
- 18:37the end of the night, this might be
- 18:39the most fun time I've ever had
- 18:40doing TV.
- 18:42And you now, she does a lot of
- 18:44TV in her career, all those years
- 18:45with Porter Wagoner, among many
- 18:47other television shows she was on.
- 18:50And I think she genuinely did
- 18:52have a lot fun doing it.
- 18:54But man, she was exactly the same
- 18:56offstage as she was onstage
- 18:58or anywhere. That was just her
- 18:59personality.
- 19:00There was no pretense, nothing fake
- 19:02about her. It was really, the other
- 19:04part was very genuine.
- 19:05Had you met her before, prior to
- 19:07that, 2000?
- 19:08No, to be honest, I was the first
- 19:10time I'd had a chance to actually
- 19:11meet her in person.
- 19:13A footnote to that story.
- 19:14I saw her again two weeks later,
- 19:16because as you may know, I'm one of
- 19:17the producers of the Grammy Awards
- 19:18show.
- 19:20And although I forget exactly what
- 19:21she was doing, she performed on the
- 19:23Grammys that same year, which was
- 19:25like a Sunday in early February.
- 19:27So I remember finding where
- 19:30she was in her dressing room right
- 19:31before her Grammy Rehearsal
- 19:34And I'm back there again, just to
- 19:35say hello and to thank her once
- 19:37again for having come to do Austin
- 19:38City Limits.
- 19:40And she said, oh honey, I was so
- 19:42happy to be there.
- 19:43And she gave me a big hug.
- 19:45And I got to say, you never forget
- 19:47a hug from Dolly Parton.
- 19:50It is a special feeling.
- 19:52I'm sure that you had expectations
- 19:53of what it might be like to meet
- 19:55her, did she meet every expectation,
- 19:57exceed even?
- 19:58I would say I see it.
- 19:59I mean, you know, you just never
- 20:00know what to expect when it comes
- 20:02to any of the artists who come
- 20:03through to do our show, because you
- 20:04don't know if their persona is
- 20:06the same offstage or backstage as it
- 20:08is on the stage in front of the
- 20:10cameras and so forth.
- 20:11But again, like I said, in her case,
- 20:13it's pretty much all the same.
- 20:15It's that genuine.
- 20:16So I just I didn't know
- 20:18whether she was going to come across
- 20:20as a diva in any way,
- 20:22shape or form or have a long list of
- 20:25special demands in the dressing room
- 20:27afterwards and no, no, none of
- 20:29that stuff.
- 20:29Dolly came back to Austin a few
- 20:31years ago for a SXSW performance.
- 20:33Were you at that performance?
- 20:35I was, and of course it was in our
- 20:37venue at ACO Live.
- 20:39And yeah, I tried to get her to come
- 20:41back and to do the show again after
- 20:422000. But like I said, she didn't
- 20:44really tour that much.
- 20:45She stayed close to home in
- 20:46Nashville and she just did special
- 20:48things, not so much on the road.
- 20:50Did she still have that same
- 20:52swagger, that same personality 20
- 20:54years on from her first ACO
- 20:55performance?
- 20:57Always.
- 20:58I really don't think, I mean, again,
- 21:00she was a genuine person, so there
- 21:02were no other sides
- 21:04to Dolly Parton, and
- 21:06it really didn't change over time,
- 21:07even right up until the end,
- 21:09literally days before she passed.
- 21:11She was still out there doing her
- 21:13thing, meeting people and
- 21:15making people feel good.
- 21:17We have been speaking with Terry
- 21:18Lacona, the executive producer
- 21:20of Austin City Limits.
- 21:21Terry, thank you for your time.
- 21:22Bye, Terry. Thank you.
- 21:35All right. It has been a very busy
- 21:36week of news. So now we're going to
- 21:37talk about some ways for you to get
- 21:39out and relax yourself this weekend
- 21:41for our Where the Art is
- 21:43segment. We are joined by art beat
- 21:44editor Stephanie Federico.
- 21:46Welcome back, Steph.
- 21:47Hi Jerry and happy 9 to 5
- 21:49day!
- 21:49Happy nine to five day to you.
- 21:51The spirit is flowing here at KUT
- 21:52and KUTX and we want
- 21:54to continue to go with those good
- 21:56vibes. So tell us what's happening
- 21:57this weekend. What's the first item
- 21:58on your list?
- 21:59Well, it actually started last
- 22:00night. It's the Big Queer Weekend.
- 22:03There was a big red carpet last
- 22:04night, it's a four-day celebration
- 22:05of Austin's queer creative
- 22:07community.
- 22:08And it's presented by
- 22:10the LGBT Chamber
- 22:13of Commerce as well as Aglif,
- 22:16that's LGBTQ Film
- 22:19Festival, in collaboration
- 22:21with South By.
- 22:22There's films, there's filmmaker
- 22:23Q&As, there is music, there's gonna
- 22:25be a marketplace, there's drag
- 22:26shows, there are arts.
- 22:28It's an opportunity to connect
- 22:30with queer folks from all over the
- 22:32world and that's happening.
- 22:33The films are over at Galaxy
- 22:35Theater, there's stuff happening
- 22:37at Drinks Backyard and over at Hotel
- 22:39Indigo and that, like I said,
- 22:40started last night and it runs
- 22:41through Sunday.
- 22:43Okay, I saw this story on
- 22:45the KUT Artbeat from our intern,
- 22:46Caroline McConnico, with some really
- 22:48cool visuals and it sounds like
- 22:50a really cool non-traditional
- 22:51gallery experience.
- 22:53Where is this taking place?
- 22:54Yeah, this is the water work
- 22:56exhibit. It's taking place tonight
- 22:58and tomorrow at 830 at
- 23:00the Seaholm Intake
- 23:02Facility. This is this old facility
- 23:03along Lady Bird Lake that used to
- 23:05pump water into the power plant
- 23:07over there.
- 23:09Anyway, they're projecting these
- 23:10videos and art onto the side
- 23:12of the building. It looks super
- 23:14cool. It's an art show that's
- 23:16produced by the cultural nonprofit
- 23:17Design Austin.
- 23:18They partnered with the Trail
- 23:19Conservancy.
- 23:20And there's going to be art from 22
- 23:21different artists that are going to
- 23:23be projected on the building.
- 23:24And the theme is transformation.
- 23:26It looks super cool.
- 23:27And if you have like a
- 23:29kayak, a canoe, a boat, anything,
- 23:31they recommend that you like view it
- 23:33from the water from Ladybird Lake,
- 23:35but there are also some viewing
- 23:36spots over at Auditorium Shores
- 23:38and the Fluger pedestrian
- 23:40bridge.
- 23:41Um, so it looks super.
- 23:43It does really look cool if you can
- 23:45enjoy some art from the water.
- 23:47Why not do it?
- 23:48Okay, so tell us now about still
- 23:50here now.
- 23:51What is that?
- 23:52That's also happening tonight and
- 23:54tomorrow at the Boyd Vance
- 23:56Theater that's inside the Carver
- 23:58Museum.
- 23:59It is a dance show with the Andrea
- 24:01Ariel Dance Theater.
- 24:02They're premiering a new performance
- 24:04called Still Here Now.
- 24:06It's gonna bring together some
- 24:07diverse Austin artists in an evening
- 24:09of dance and live music and
- 24:11storytelling.
- 24:12And the idea is exploring identity
- 24:14and how it's shaped by community,
- 24:16memory and family.
- 24:18Okay, only about 30 seconds left
- 24:19here. This last event is something,
- 24:22it's a continuation of something you
- 24:23told us about a couple of weeks ago.
- 24:25What is that?
- 24:25Yeah, Gray Duck Gallery over on
- 24:28Cesar Chavez Street is closing,
- 24:30and we talked about this exhibit
- 24:32from a multimedia artist
- 24:34named Yuliya Lenina,
- 24:37and she has the closing
- 24:39exhibit there. But they're going to
- 24:40have a wake party
- 24:43on Saturday afternoon at like
- 24:45five to eight.
- 24:46So they're closing out the show.
- 24:48They're going have this party.
- 24:49They're closing.
- 24:49And it's not one of these issues of
- 24:51the rent is too high and they're
- 24:52getting pushed out or anything like
- 24:53that. Owner Jill Schroeder.
- 24:55She's owned the gallery for the past
- 24:5716 years or so.
- 24:58She just decided to retire.
- 25:00So this is a big last hurrah and
- 25:02it should be really nice.
- 25:04All right, just a few of the events
- 25:05happening around town this weekend.
- 25:07Thank you to our Art B editor,
- 25:09Stephanie Federico. Appreciate you.
- 25:10Thanks, Jerry.
- 25:11And thank you out there for spending
- 25:13the week with us.
- 25:14It's been a busy one.
- 25:15So keep up with what's going on here
- 25:16at kut.org
- 25:18slash signal.
- 25:20Our signal team is Caroline Fial,
- 25:22Alexandra Hart, Kristen Cabrera,
- 25:24and I'm your host, Jerry Kihannel.
- 25:25We'll be back on Monday.
- 25:26Have a great weekend.