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Can a Shot Make You Feel 16 Again? The New Science of Vitality — Carlton Washington · The Dr. Randi Show

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Now let's get into the episode. Hello everyone and welcome to
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the Doctor Randy show where we talk about technology,
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innovation and the future of medicine, Wellness and
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aesthetics. Today's guest has built the
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largest Wellness and vitality Med spa chain in the US.
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He brought peptides and hormone therapy into the mainstream and
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he's now advising us on the future of longevity medicine.
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Please welcome Carlton, WA. What's up guys?
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Thanks for. Welcome back to the show,
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Carlton, It's great to have you on again.
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Always a pleasure. Same, same.
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Well today we are going to tackle the topic of peptides,
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very hot topic in our industry today, which started and came in
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very strong with weight loss peptides, but has since really
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expanded and excited to talk about that with you today as
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well as we are going to talk about NAD which is no doubt one
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of the hottest topics also in our industry.
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So very excited to jump in. So Carlton, the listeners and
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the viewers who have seen you on the show before, they know your
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background, but if you don't mind giving us a 2 minute
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elevator pitch of why you are here and talking about these
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peptides? Awesome.
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So yeah, Carlton Washington thanks you for having me.
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And I met Randy many years ago organically by trying to get my
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business off the ground. I was a depressed banker who
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really wanted to do something different that was meaningful
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and I wanted out the bank. And so the only thing that was
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meaningful in my life at the time was the Wellness therapies
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that I was getting from a clinic that I was going through that
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only offered a couple things. And at the time, I was a young
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guy. I wanted to be able to party
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like I was in my 20s forever. I wanted to look like I did in
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my 20s forever. And I utilized IV therapy, TRT,
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was exercising and trying to do all these things and was like,
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hey, well this is stuff that I believe in.
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I can't sell something if I don't believe in it.
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So started a company with my partner called Forever Young in
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Boca Raton. Really just trying to get out of
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the rat race and out of corporate.
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And never in a million years that I think we're going to have
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even more than one location. But Fast forward now, we're at
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about 65 plus locations and growing that are open right now
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in about 24 states. And really I always tell people
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the only reason I know about any of this stuff is because I'm
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selfish and I want to live as long as I can, but not just
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live, I want to be optimal as long as I can.
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And so anything that's going to do that, I selfishly try to
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learn about Guinea pig, use it, let my family know about it and
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then my patients. And so that's what brings me
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here now. I really just talked about this
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business from the industry just because.
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I need it. And I'm still in the business
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even after selling a portion of it to private equity because I
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can't live without what we do. And so I was going to remain
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close to it. And I think it's exciting.
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Well, Carlton, we've been friends for many years now.
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I think it's about 10 years. I was growing my business, you
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were growing yours and it was a great experience to work
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together. You let me test all of my brand
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haired theories on you and I appreciate it and we've had a
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lot of success together. But one thing that I've really
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loved about watching you grow is that you really walk the talk,
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which people can tell you to do certain things, but you actually
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do it. And you are, if you don't mind
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me asking, I believe in your 40s now.
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Yeah, 45 years old. OK, so you're 45 and if you guys
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get the chance to follow Carlton on social media, you will see
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that Carlton has the body of a 28 year old.
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You know he's got the whole 6 pack.
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I don't know, maybe it's even 8 pack Carlton, but you've got.
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What time of year? Yeah.
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So you've got that going and you're in the shape of your life
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and always look like 1,000,000 bucks.
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And clearly to get to that at age 45, it's 100 times harder
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than people remember in their 20s.
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So I know how hard you're working and I know how
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passionate you are about making sure that you have this optimal
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result and then you're passing that on to your patients.
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So that's why I get so excited about talking with you.
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So today we're going to jump into the peptides and just see
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how we go from there. So we couldn't ignore the
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elephant in the room, which are the weight loss peptides, which
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is really how this frenzy started.
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Now, I know you've been talking about and working with peptides
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for many years, but the rest of us really started learning more
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about what a peptide is. After the weight loss peptides,
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the GLP ones joined the party, right?
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And then we started learning more about that.
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So let's spend just a few minutes talking about the weight
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loss peptides. You know, they've obviously been
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the biggest headline. What, to you, has stood out the
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most about how it's changed people's lives?
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Yeah. So great question.
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And when anybody brings this topic up, I try to keep it real
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about the GLP ones and the products you're talking about.
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What we started in this industry and Wellness, it was really
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against the big pharma companies.
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So they don't like what we do, they don't like what we do.
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I don't think it's a secret. I think it's bad for bottom line
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what Wellness clinics do typically for big pharma.
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And so the only big pharma that we work with really was on the
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aesthetic side. But in terms of these products,
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look, there's some pros. The pros are, is that some
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people and many people these days, they are fighting
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self-control, they're fighting discipline, they're fighting
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routine and they're fighting the most advanced marketing on the
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planet. And I'm not talking about
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pharmaceutical market, I'm talking about marketing of food,
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drinks, lifestyle, sugar, candy, whatever you want to call and
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sedative lifestyle and so. I.
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Think for the first time. And I'm just assuming this.
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This may not be a fact that Big Pharma was like, hey, look, you
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got a whole bunch of Carlton's and Forever Young's out there,
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you know, kind of dragging on our bottom line or a little bit.
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And they discovered this product that was for something else
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originally, mainly also for diabetics.
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And they're like, wow, Well, all of a sudden this thing's not
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only helping people lose weight drastically, it's also making
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them not want to do other cravings like smoke cigarettes
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or drink alcohol or even do certain drugs for addicts.
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And so now in comes the marketing.
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And if you notice, the marketing came on strong, not with your
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typical ads, but with celebrity endorsements, kind of an organic
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influencer type of way. And So what happened with this
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drug is it really came and took us by storm because we were so
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adamant about never working with something like that before that
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were like, whoa, why does everybody want a weight loss
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drug? Because we always knew prior to
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that there was no magic pill. And so now someone comes along
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and says, hey, there's a magic pill.
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And so there's good and there's bad.
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Too many things of this product has helped many people who
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cannot either create that routine or who cannot fight, in
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my opinion, the luring that the marketing does, which all of us
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suffer from. Like, every weekend I have to go
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get my pancakes and I drenched them in syrup.
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Now I do it once a week. But hey, I mean, I want to do it
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every day. And I think, you know, some of
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us don't know what that's doing. And so I think that these GOP
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ones, which are actually peptides, they're synthetic
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peptides, actually have helped quite a number of people, so
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much so that it is actually hurt the bottom line of major brands,
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major food brands, major franchise brands.
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You know, your crafts, your Nabisco's, your McDonald's
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franchises, your Wendy's, all of them have sales down.
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Not to mention you have over 15% drop in alcohol sales as well,
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which they say is just young people, but I think it's a
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combination of young people and other people stopping cravings.
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So those GOP ones do a lot. They don't burn fat.
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What people need to understand is that they basically trick
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your body into thinking that you're either full or that you
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have enough nutrients to go on. And then the body actually tries
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to use some of the nutrients that's stored to live.
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And so if you mitigate it properly, I got to say properly,
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then this can be a good thing. Personally, if I was talking to.
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An average person. I'm going to tell them that
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micro dosing this is the best thing to do because otherwise
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building a long term reliance I don't believe is there out to
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go. I think this is a pathway to a
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better lifestyle. And so yeah, you take the weight
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off, maybe you get some orthopedic relief, knees, back,
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elbows, shoulders, then you got a great opportunity to go back
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to the gym and combine that with some healthy lifestyle choices,
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which doesn't mean you're on a diet.
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I hate telling people. I know when we grew up,
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everything was about diet, like the Jenny Craig diet, all of the
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different things, the special diets, the fin, fin, all that
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type of stuff that didn't work for most people.
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And if they did, a lot of it wasn't healthy for most people.
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So I think it's an interesting alternative for people.
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We were slow to bring it on it for every young because I think
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as founders we were always in, are still today so dialed in on
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lifestyle, lifestyle, lifestyle. And so I still don't think you
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can get around the lifestyle part of it, but I think it's a
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great way to jumpstart a healthy lifestyle.
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And again, emphasis on the word jumpstart.
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You know, forever. I don't know.
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For a time period, absolutely. This stuff does work and we've
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had staff members and in patients who have lost
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significant amounts of weight. I'm sure everybody that's
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listening to this, including yourself, has seen people who
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have lost significant amounts of weight.
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So there's benefits, but moderation I think is key.
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Yes, I have seen friends, family just change their lives
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completely from it. I do think it's a bit of a
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miracle for a lot of people that couldn't get past what they were
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doing, their eating habits. I think it's great.
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But I agree with you. I think that we have to keep
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everything in balance. I do think it's helping the
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country with a lot, you know, a lot of people in this country to
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just get over their food addictions and whatnot.
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So one thing I just want to close this topic out with this,
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what's coming next. I have heard that there are at
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least 15 new weight loss peptides in in clinical trials
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and about to be released. And I think they're focusing
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more on turning those into a pill form because in some of the
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talks about this before, more than 25% of people in this
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country are afraid of needles, have a fear of needles.
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Yeah, I forget about that guy. We're so used to them.
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I forget about that. Yeah, about that part.
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So there's a lot of people that haven't dived into these weight
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loss medications simply because they're afraid of needles.
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So we're going to see a lot more in the pill form.
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I was reading the studies that are going on this past weekend,
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so we're going to see a lot more coming.
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So excited for that. And I agree, a lot of people
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were slow to jump on clinics and doctors, but I think that it's
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been a good thing for our country overall and I think the
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quality will just get better over time.
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Yeah. And to know on the needle thing
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and I told this to my mom and I told this to a lot of other
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people when we consult. Well as people look, first and
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foremost, peptide needles really don't hurt your nerve ending.
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The only nerve sensitivity is right on the skin under there.
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There isn't any when you're going into subcutaneous fat.
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So look to everybody that's worried about needles.
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Here's the thing, I'm in the hospital.
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Every so often you walk down the halls and I always tell my mom,
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you want to pick the needles that go into you.
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You're right. I'd rather pick the subcutaneous
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needle used for GLP one any day. I know before we got on the call
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and you're talking about what's latest and greatest in terms of
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the weight loss and what's coming next.
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And I think we discussed that Mots that C peptide and this
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peptide is supposedly, we don't offer this yet and I want to,
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but it is supposedly like an exercise in a shot in a way and
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it resets your metabolism. And so that's going to be really
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exciting to see and try. I wouldn't mind Guinea picking
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that one myself. The weight loss shot is a dream
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for many. For me the fitness shot would be
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the dream come true because I'm a person who does not work out
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and does not like to work out. So I'm very good test dummy for
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that one, so. Looking forward, absolutely, I
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think a lot of people would agree.
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Looking forward to that. I get in my 10,000 steps a day
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but I'm not a workout person but definitely would love to try
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that and see how it works. So let's dive into what I think
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is the the hottest topic right now is NAD, which is not a
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peptide. And let's talk about what you're
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seeing with Nadi want to know everything about it.
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Our listeners, our viewers want to know about NAD, how it's
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changing people's lives. People are telling stories of
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it's turning back the clock 10/15/20 years that they're
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feeling like they never felt before.
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Their minds, their bodies. And I know that you take it.
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So I'd love to talk to you about it.
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So let's first clarify what NAD is and why.
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Why is it not a peptide? What is it exactly?
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So anything is a master coenzyme, it's an enzyme, but a
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peptides are typically a strand of amino acids, amino acids,
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proteins are built up out of the amino acids and these are amino
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acids are usually between 123 or 50 different amino acid
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combinations that send signals to your body to tell it what to
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do. It's a hack.
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And so with the enzyme though with NAD, and this is my
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explanation, I always want to tell you I'm not a doctor and
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I'm not a scientist. I'm a guy that experimented with
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a lot of different stuff and before it probably became
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popular and when it became OK to offer, we have patient data
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feedback that's real time and including ourselves and
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including our families. And so that's where about my
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data information comes from, comes from sitting down and
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talking to people, thousands of people about their results.
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And then really from my own experience.
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And so just to give a quick update on what Nad kind of is,
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It's interesting because I feel like we've been talking about
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these things for years, but now the Wellness community is like,
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oh, wow, Nadi was at a conference the other day and and
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Gary Brecco was like standing right there and some other guys
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and they were basically saying like, dude, we're only like 13%
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penetrated Max. And as to what the consumer or
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the population understands about this stuff.
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So when we talk about NAD, if I go into a family reunion,
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they're like, what the hell are you talking about?
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But we spend all day long around people talking about this,
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vendors, patients, whatever. So it's like, dude, we've been
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talking about this for 5-6 years.
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So my first experience with NAD to just give people a real world
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idea what this is. I had avoided COVID the whole
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time in late 2019, early 2020, Thought I was bulletproof.
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My wife had it so many different times and I went out to party
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one night and in a really tight atmosphere right when that
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vaccine came out and all the second variants were coming out.
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So finally I got COVID and I didn't get regular COVID.
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I got like the 16 day version of COVID and I had a boxing match
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that I was training for for about four months and the boxing
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match was 30 days out. And so I'm sitting there crying
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to myself like, dude, you're done.
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There's you're going to have to cancel this.
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You told everybody it's on a billboard, you're advertising,
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there's no way you're going to be able to box.
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And so I'm like freaking out, like, what do I do?
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So I'm like, I'm going to try everything.
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So as soon as I got the clearance, I was like, guys,
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hook me up to the Nadi hadn't tried it yet.
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I was like, put me on. So they put me on the 1000 and
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the liter bag. I think I did like 750 to 1000
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milligrams of NAD. And next thing you know, I lost
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15 lbs. In that time period, no training
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at all. I was back the next day in the
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gym, not even like I missed a beat and sharper than I was
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prior. And the only way I could
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describe it anybody was I was feeling and moving and thinking
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like I was 16 years old. And to give a visual to someone,
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it's movie with Bradley Cooper, which was called Limitless.
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Where he's got that experimental drug that he's taking and he's
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literally running circles around people.
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That is how I felt. And so, yeah, that's NADNAD to
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me, if I'm going to put it into layman's terms, is like taking
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somebody that has a battery and it's.
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Half charge and. When you do an AD, when you put
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that enzyme in your body, you are now fully charging the body
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and that is fully charging your mind.
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It's fully charging your energy and it's not in a stimulant
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manner. It is in like a clean focus,
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pure feeling that you have that allows you to do things that are
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optimal. Level a lot better.
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Than other people so much so that I cannot drink a lot of
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caffeine or coffee with this because it actually gets
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annoying because you're doing too much at that point.
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And so I had to back it down. And it's funny because many
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people, especially men do get a side effect when they're doing
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the IV during the IV, which basically gives you like a flush
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feeling and a palpitation. So it's a long term IV.
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And so that's the thing that stops me sometimes because I'm
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always on the go and I have to be patient and take about 3
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hours to do this. Now I'll be honest with people
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as well. I am the Guinea pig guy all the
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time. And so I know this because that
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only is it an indication. But I have also tried to use a
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pressurized IV pump to force in AD faster.
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And by doing that, I mess myself up twice because what it's doing
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is it also repairs cellular damage and that cellular damage
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turns into waste in the system. So I have flooded my body with
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toxic shock twice because I didn't follow instructions and I
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did NAD +2 fast. This is not common.
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It's not going to happen if you listen to your nerves.
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I didn't listen. But what I'll tell you is it's
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also an indication of just how powerful and what it's doing.
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So imagine something going into your body and basically reading
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it of that type of material all at one time.
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Yeah. I was going to ask you if there
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are any side effects to it. Yeah, you just need to do it
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slow. And anybody that knows me will
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tell you I'm very hard headed. I want to do everything fast.
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You got to do it slow, but other than that doing it slow.
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You could do it. Via IV, it needs to be diluted.
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You don't want to push it like an IV push because again, it
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needs to be diluted. And also there's many different
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ways you can do this. I tell people the IV is like a
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loading dose. So it loads and charges the
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battery. But then like a cell phone, your
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battery starts to deplete. So if you want to keep it
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restored, doesn't mean to do it IV all the time.
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You can do the nasal spray. You can also do subcutaneous
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injection. Some people also do
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intramuscular injection. Have you tried all of those and
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are they as effective? Yes, the subcutaneous injection
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is really effective, especially if you've already done the IV.
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It's very effective. One thing I will tell people,
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don't buy these oral NAD supplements.
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There's like 100 of them out there.
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Don't buy them. Oral does not work.
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You're not going to get the benefit.
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I don't care what the advertisement says, it doesn't
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work. OK, that's, that's good to know.
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Well, that's an amazing story. So how often do you need to get
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the IV? Sounds like that's like the
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major battery charge. And then you can in between you
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can use the injections or the nasal spray, that kind of thing.
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So how often would you recommend doing the IV?
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So it depends. So you have a couple different
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kind of patients out there. You have patients that you know,
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obviously they're watching budget and you have some
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patients when it comes to Wellness, there is no budget.
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So if you're a patient that's watching budget, my personal
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advice, again I'm not a doctor, scientist, is to do the loading
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1000 milliliter bag, the largest dose first and then to order
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yourself the subcutaneous injectable in AD to keep it
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going. And then if you're watching your
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budget, I would probably do those quarterly, but I would do
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the other dosing during the week, like 5 days on, two days
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off. With that, if you don't care and
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Wellness is your everything, then do the loading IV once a
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month with either the nasal spray in the morning or the
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subcutaneous injection in the morning as well.
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And that's going to keep you like 100 the whole time.
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OK. And so you're saying for a
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budget conscious, do it quarterly if you're not worried
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about budget? And what is the approximate cost
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of an IV for NAD? Depending on where you go, I
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mean, these things are going to run you, you know, 540-9500 to
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about 7:50 if you're going to go to some clinic that presents
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itself as elite, which just simply means cost more typically
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than probably could be 1000, could be $1200.
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It just depends. I would also advise your
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listeners go to somewhere that you feel comfortable, makes you
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feel comfortable, where people are trustworthy.
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And look, everybody needs to make a profit if you're running
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a business, but don't get your head knocked off.
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Yes, yes, great way to say it. So NAD sounds like it really is
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the next, I guess spectrum of what is going to happen.
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I mean the fact that you're saying how much better you feel
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taking this and obviously you have it at your disposal all the
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time. I think that we only just
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touched the surface of that. Do you think that NAD is going
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to become as mainstream as the weight loss peptides eventually?
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No. And you know, you want to know
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what can you take a guess? I'll give you a guess.
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Why? I was going to say cost at
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first, but the weight loss medicines are pretty high.
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Well, the cost is going to be the obvious one, but there's
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another reason. I kind of alluded to her
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earlier, but I'll give you one more guess.
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Let me think, maybe just people thinking it's too much.
23:04
No, it's the thing that we find in Wellness all the time and
23:08
which is the difference between a lot of your well population
23:11
and your sick care population. It's consistency and routine.
23:15
It's consistency, routine, discipline.
23:17
So you know, in order for these things to work long term, it's
23:21
got to be part of your lifestyle.
23:22
It's got to be part of your lifestyle.
23:24
You can't be like, do this like 6 months later.
23:27
And that's what we see in the clinics.
23:29
You know, I think you would probably say that you see that
23:31
on aesthetics and in Wellness. You have women that are adamant
23:35
about their memberships or they're doing their touch ups
23:39
and that routine skin care. And you see these women, you're
23:43
like, Oh my God, like they have $1,000,000 skin.
23:46
You could tell. And then you have people that
23:48
are the opposite and it just doesn't work that way.
23:51
So you're. Right, you're right.
23:53
When people talk about skin yes, I mean I'm obsessed with taking
23:57
care of my skin and if I slack, I can tell right away.
23:59
So, OK, so you're right, the consistency, well, I'm excited
24:03
about Nadi have yet to try it, but I think I should so.
24:08
I can be, absolutely, but you might get too productive though.
24:11
Yeah, I am a little hyper as it is, so that would be a lot.
24:15
But I would probably probably try it in the small dose first
24:17
just to see how I felt from it and see how that goes.
24:20
What percentage of your patients have tried NAD at this point?
24:25
This is still a minority situation in terms of people.
24:29
It's the same type of people that like wear whoops, the whoop
24:33
band, you know, or who are obsessed with their Fitbit,
24:36
their whoop or metrics. Those are the type people that
24:40
do this kind of stuff still. And so sometimes people when
24:43
they talk about the Wellness industry, they're like, we're
24:45
just getting started. It's so big.
24:47
But again, the medical weight loss industry is huge.
24:52
Well, in this industry, it's still requires some discipline.
24:56
And so if I had to guess, I'd say like 8%, OK, that's a guess
25:02
on top of. That I figured it was very low.
25:05
All right now in other exciting peptides, there are many
25:09
peptides with strange names and numbers that people have started
25:12
talking about. I know my husband takes a
25:14
cocktail of different peptides and he swears, you know that
25:17
helps him recover better workouts, better recovery.
25:21
So outside of weight loss, let's start talking about what are the
25:25
top peptides that are being used right now.
25:28
One that I keep hearing a lot about is BP 157 and that's a hot
25:34
1 and that one is the recovery peptide, right, so.
25:39
Yeah, so about that. Yeah.
25:40
BBC 157. Or.
25:43
Penta deca arginate peptide is very popular now.
25:48
Again, this has been out for years and is a little
25:51
controversial because it works. Like if you talk to anybody
25:54
about this, it works. And again, I'm a little
25:58
conspiracy minded and I don't necessarily it's conspiracy.
26:01
I think it's just business. This is something that can
26:03
impact orthopedics and people like that.
26:07
Because what happens is this became really big in the fitness
26:11
community, bodybuilding community, because it helps
26:14
prepare tissue and it helps repair damage.
26:17
And, and so you have people that are fixing certain injuries with
26:21
BPC 157, they're healing faster. And so it was the best kept
26:26
secret for a while. There was some pushback on it
26:29
because again, I'm a little conspiracy minded, but I think
26:34
Big Pharma wanted to be able to utilize these things, patent
26:37
these things. Because if they work.
26:39
They're popular and the public has gotten access to them.
26:42
And so this peptide goes and helps to rapidly heal injuries.
26:47
And so people who are active have been very, very keen on it.
26:53
And even myself right now, I'm healing from some issues.
26:56
Right now, I have two bottles in my refrigerator and I'm taking
26:59
it every single night. Why not?
27:01
Because, you know, anything that's going to make us feel
27:03
faster, that's what we want. It's been termed or deemed The
27:06
Wolverine drug Wolverine after Wolverine from X-Men because the
27:11
wrath of healing. Yeah, that's one of the ones
27:14
that my husband Justin takes and he swears by it.
27:16
And he went off of it for a couple years just, you know,
27:20
like you said, consistency or change, and then he went back on
27:23
and he said it was an unbelievable difference.
27:25
So I guess that's a big one. Now let's talk about AOD 96-O
27:31
four. And that's supposed to be
27:32
another fat burning peptide, right?
27:35
Yes. And there's probably going to be
27:38
people who listen to this who disagree with me, but I'm just
27:41
going to shoot it to you straight.
27:42
I've used that and I'm not very impressed and I don't know what
27:47
to say. I didn't find it to be
27:49
worthwhile for fat loss. You already discussed today that
27:54
there are other peptides out there like GOP ones that can
27:58
help people lose weight. Now, again, GOP ones aren't my
28:01
favorite, but I'd rather refer someone to do that than to do
28:05
AOD. It's just not the type of
28:07
peptide that's going to keep somebody running back and with
28:10
results or saying hey, with a testimony like hey, I want more
28:13
of this. Now since we're on peptides and
28:16
we're on weight loss and fat loss peptides, there is
28:20
something that I'm extremely excited about.
28:23
Again, this has been out for a few years, but it's still not as
28:27
popular as it needs to be. And that is Tessa Moreland.
28:31
I probably should be wearing a Tessa Moreland shirt right now
28:33
because it is the most amazing peptide that I have seen offered
28:38
where you know as a business person or someone that's trying
28:43
to help someone, you always want to have return business and you
28:47
always want to be able to deliver on what you're telling
28:50
the patient. You put somebody on Tessa
28:53
Moreland, they're going to come back.
28:55
Fanatical About Tessa Moreland Tessa Moreland was a peptide
29:01
designed to originally help HIV and AIDS patients.
29:04
Because basically when they were taking all those medications
29:07
just to stay alive, there's so much toxicity with those things.
29:11
It builds up in the body and it builds a great deal of stored
29:14
fat and visceral fat. So if you ever see somebody
29:17
that's AIDS or HIV positive and they're on those meds, a lot of
29:20
time you will see that they have somewhat of a distinction in
29:24
their stomach. It's a giveaway for that type of
29:26
medication. And so this medication literally
29:29
goes in and gets rid of visceral fat and store fat.
29:36
So what that means is visceral fat also is the fact that they
29:39
measure when they're looking for your health span, when they're
29:41
looking at overall health with fat around your organs, it goes
29:44
in there and reduces this drastically.
29:47
And So what happens is someone can get on this and in one
29:51
month, two months, three months, if we measure their body
29:53
composition and just the way they look, this person is going
29:57
to come back like, Oh my God, thank you so much, I'm down. 2%
30:01
body fat first month, another 2% body fat next month, another 3%
30:05
body fat next month. And they're just going to be
30:07
like, this is amazing. I've never got results from
30:09
anything like this before. And it's from Tessa Moreland.
30:12
It increases IGF one. It's one like growth factor.
30:17
And typically with elevated IGF one, many people are going to
30:22
experience a better and more improved body composition and
30:26
that's what most of us want. And so you mentioned earlier,
30:31
I'm not going to lie to people like I'm not genetically gifted.
30:35
I don't think when I go and have a six pack it's because I'm
30:40
doing TRT, I'm eating about 70% clean and I probably have taken
30:46
Tessa Moreland five days a week as well.
30:51
Right. So you're doing all the things,
30:53
you're right, you're not just laying in bed and suddenly
30:55
forming A6 pack. So so are people seeing weight
31:00
loss from that or just reduction in fat?
31:03
Loss, fat loss. Fat loss.
31:06
Not muscle loss, Fat loss. People that work out though
31:11
regularly would you say? Right.
31:13
No, not necessarily. This is going to work for
31:15
anybody that wants to lose stored fat and has visceral fat.
31:19
And here's the thing, you also have body composition that needs
31:23
to be addressed as well, right? So it's going to be the
31:26
combination of putting on lean muscle and reducing fat.
31:30
And so this is a perfect combination for somebody that
31:33
wants to combine, let's say, TRT testosterone replacement therapy
31:38
by putting on lean muscle. And then this is going to just
31:41
focus on the fat. So you have two things that can
31:44
target that while we're partnering it with going to the
31:47
gym or some type of physical activity and at least being
31:51
conscious of what you eat. I don't preach diet, but, but I
31:55
said 70 percent, 30% of the time I'm eating things that I don't
31:58
really probably want you to see me eating, you know?
32:01
Right, right. OK.
32:03
Well, that's great. So those are some hot ones.
32:06
And did we talk about CJC 1295 plus if Amoralin, let's talk
32:12
about that one. That's when I hear about a lot.
32:15
Right. So that was a stack that was
32:16
combined. Moreland was looked at as kind
32:19
of like a step up from some Moreland, which used to be the
32:23
most popular peptide in the anti aging space, but it probably
32:28
wasn't as potent. And So what came next was growth
32:32
hormone producing peptide or stimulating peptide.
32:36
IPA Moreland combined with CJ C 1295 which also help attack
32:41
stored fat. So you have two components
32:44
combined together, 2 peptides together that help with stored
32:48
fat, that help improve sleep, that help improve hair, skin and
32:52
nails and recovery and also preserve muscle.
32:57
And so that's really what those combinations are for.
33:00
Now regulatory wise, we've seen regulatory issues really trying
33:06
to get it from Orleans CJC consistently.
33:10
Right now it's off the list on a list, off the list on a list.
33:14
But again, I'm going to be a little suspicious of that
33:19
because that didn't happen until GLP one started hitting the
33:23
market. And I'll also tell you as a
33:25
person that's used and have many patients that's used CJC 1295
33:29
with the Moreland, there was no reason to pull it off the market
33:32
in terms of what we saw because we didn't have any negative
33:35
patient reactions to these, all positive.
33:39
And a lot of people were quite frankly pissed off when they
33:42
made it harder and more difficult to get.
33:45
Do you think there are some different side effects?
33:48
I mean, I think that each person's body does better with
33:53
certain peptides. I know at one point my husband
33:57
tried, I think it was that yes, the CJC and he was doing fine on
34:02
it for this was like maybe a year ago or so.
34:06
He was doing fine on it. And then he suddenly came into
34:10
my office one day and was like, I think I'm having a heart
34:13
attack. And I was like, what do you
34:15
mean? This is a man who never even
34:17
complaints that he's ever had a cold in 13 years.
34:20
I know him. And he was like, we have to call
34:22
911. I'm having a heart attack.
34:24
And. Sounds like my wife.
34:27
He was really like freaking out and you know, I guess that
34:32
happened once and then he knew he wasn't having a heart attack
34:34
after that, but then it happened again and then I guess he
34:39
correlated it with the shot or whatever.
34:40
But nevertheless, he did stop, and then that thing stopped and
34:45
then now he's on something else but.
34:47
It does that happens and I believe it's the CJC 1295
34:51
component. My wife before we even finished,
34:53
as soon as I knew exactly what you're going to say, wife, same
34:56
thing, slight palpitations, heart beating fast, the shot and
35:00
that that can happen and some people never happens to me at
35:03
all. Yeah, he was, because, you know,
35:06
Justin, and he's never complaints about anything, never
35:09
has any medical issues, but he was like, I'm having a heart
35:12
attack right now. So, you know, I guess he
35:14
couldn't get it to calm down. And also, you know, he drinks
35:16
coffee or whatnot, but it definitely freaked him out and
35:19
he won't touch it again. He's had enough.
35:21
Yeah, same story with my wife. Exact same story.
35:25
Yeah, I guess that's a bad feeling when that happens.
35:27
So there's a new one on the scene.
35:30
I know that it's very limited information right now, but this
35:34
MOTSC which is a mitochondrial peptide.
35:38
Do you have any information on that so far or what are your?
35:41
Thoughts. It's new and we don't have
35:42
access to it yet. I want access to it.
35:45
I want to try it. But again, that's like the
35:47
exercise in a shot peptide right there.
35:50
OK, that's your metabolism. And it's literally supposed to
35:53
be like exercise in a shot. And so don't offer that right
35:57
now. Want to see it get some
35:59
traction? We'll we'll be able to find out
36:01
from pharmacy soon if they can. But yeah, I want to try it.
36:04
Haven't tried it. Heard about it but have not
36:07
tried it. That's great.
36:09
That's great. So there's peptides for
36:10
everything, right? Yeah, yeah.
36:13
I mean, it's exciting. You know, right now, I think
36:15
politically we are in a situation where these things are
36:20
getting some wind behind in her back.
36:22
I know our secretary of health uses peptides.
36:25
I mean, you're talking about a guy in his late 60s, maybe early
36:29
70s, who's got a six or eight pack and probably better muscle
36:33
tone than myself. And so best believe he's doing
36:36
these type of things and best believe that they work.
36:39
And so they say right now, if you can just live 10 more years
36:43
and try to stay out of an accident or some kind of act of
36:46
God, the things that will be coming down the pipeline should
36:50
be probably make the things that we're talking about today look
36:53
like child's play. Yeah, that's what I hear too.
36:56
They'll be these like anti aging pills, we'll never have to look
36:59
our age again and be very, very unique with coming for us.
37:04
Are patients coming in already asking about peptides, educated
37:09
about peptides? Or would you say that's still
37:11
such a small amount of the population?
37:14
You know what it is right now. It's the word.
37:16
Peptide. People like you have peptides.
37:19
You have peptides especially like a lot of young people.
37:22
It's interesting adjustment because you're like, yeah, where
37:24
were you guys 11 years ago when we were talking about this
37:28
stuff? You know, so you have some
37:33
people coming in, but education, what you're doing here is the
37:38
biggest missing piece. The education can't spread fast
37:43
enough about these type of things.
37:45
And again, for your patients, your listeners out there, guys,
37:49
you got to pick your needles. You pick the needle or someone's
37:53
going to pick the needle for you.
37:55
And so I think that's the thing. You reminded me of that today.
37:58
That's the only barrier. If these were pills, people will
38:01
be lined up down St. It's the needle.
38:03
Right, Yeah. I think that just like you said,
38:06
some people are not even afraid of the pain.
38:08
They're just they have fear of a needle.
38:09
I had a friend that just at the sight of a needle would faint,
38:12
right. I mean, like people really have
38:14
some interesting fears. But I think all of this will be
38:17
available in pill form before we know it.
38:19
The people that are coming in that that do ask for peptides,
38:22
is it more males, females, Is it the younger generation, the
38:26
older generation? What are the demographics of
38:29
that? I'm going to say I think women
38:33
finally are becoming more in front when it comes to Wellness
38:42
and an area of hormones and peptides.
38:45
Finally women. It was the opposite prior.
38:48
It was opposite. It was the guys is the guys, you
38:51
know, it was mostly guys that were like, hey, you know, I want
38:53
to be, I want to be jacked, you know.
38:56
But now we're finding that the women, because women do more
39:00
research. I feel like sometimes I could be
39:01
wrong, but I feel like they're more purposeful about what
39:04
they're doing. And so now I think a lot of
39:06
women are probably in that charge.
39:08
I could be wrong. I don't have the study in front
39:10
of me, but I'm just saying off of what I see.
39:12
I think women are definitely at least as excited and interested
39:18
in trying these things. Yeah, I think they want to hear
39:21
about what's going to help them, their skin peptides, you know.
39:24
So I think we all want to look and feel better.
39:27
We have covered a lot of ground about Peptides and Carlton.
39:32
The listeners and viewers will be happy to know that you'll be
39:34
coming back. We're going to do a series on
39:37
Vitality with Carlton. He's really has his finger on
39:40
the pulse of things. So we'll be bringing you back on
39:42
a regular basis. But before we let you go, we'd
39:45
love to invite you to do our speed round if you have a few
39:48
more minutes. Absolutely.
39:49
Let's do it. All right, here we go.
39:51
Ice baths yes or no? No, right now.
39:56
OK and only reason is right now is because I fell out of routine
40:00
with the ice bath. It's a mental thing.
40:01
So I fell out of my mental fortitude with ice baths.
40:05
But I am ordering one actually in a couple weeks.
40:08
Meditation daily or rarely. So they say prayer is the same
40:13
thing as meditation and I pray daily.
40:15
So daily. How much sleep do you get?
40:18
How many hours? I average about 7 hours and 20
40:24
minutes of sleep. I know that #7 hours and 20
40:26
minutes of sleep. On Saturdays sometimes I get up
40:29
to 9, but during the week it's about 7 hours and 20 minutes of
40:33
sleep that I get. It's.
40:34
Pretty good protein shakes or green juice.
40:37
Protein shakes. Fasting fat or forever?
40:40
So I'm going to be honest with you, I have not been able to
40:44
make it through a fast longer than 24 hours.
40:47
But from what I've read, I think it's forever because fasting has
40:51
been something that's been like biblical and in different
40:54
religious texts. So it's forever.
40:57
Sauna or steam room? Sauna.
40:59
Cheat meal once a week or never at.
41:02
Least once a week. Fitness tracker essential or
41:06
unnecessary? Essential.
41:09
Hormone therapy. Start early or wait until you
41:12
need it. Wait until you need it.
41:14
Supplements. Too many out there or not
41:17
enough? Not enough.
41:19
IV therapy, occasional boost or weekly ritual.
41:23
Monthly or bi weekly? Skin care clinical products or
41:28
over the counter. I have to say clinical.
41:32
Red light therapy hype or helpful?
41:35
Man, these are hard. I have to say that.
41:38
I feel like it's hype, but I don't know.
41:41
I'm not a doctor or scientist. I don't know but.
41:44
Haven't seen anything remarkable yet.
41:48
Biohacking, exciting or overrated?
41:50
Exciting. Aging inevitable or manageable?
41:54
Inevitable. Patients care more about energy
41:59
or weight loss. Weight loss.
42:02
Biggest driver aesthetics or vitality?
42:05
Aesthetics because it's easy. More growth right now, men's
42:10
market or women's market? Women's.
42:13
Younger patients interested or indifferent.
42:16
Interested. PRP keep it or lose it.
42:20
Oh, it works. One word for the future of
42:23
Wellness. It is ascension.
42:27
It's going up. Coffee or matcha?
42:29
Coffee. Sneakers or dress shoes?
42:32
Sneakers. Beach vacation or city trip?
42:36
City trip now. Dogs or cats?
42:39
Dogs. Gym playlist, hip hop or EDM?
42:43
My EDM mixed with some like death metal.
42:48
Dream Car. My dream car right now is a
42:52
Mercedes-Benz Sprinter. There you go.
42:55
You're going to like where it's all customized inside, yes.
42:58
Yes, mobile office. Yes.
43:01
Kids, games, friends. Yeah, sleep.
43:04
Catch up on sleep in between. First thing you do every
43:08
morning. Yeah, it's a status check.
43:10
My whoop. Last thing you do before bed.
43:13
I have started using a device called a Pulsetto.
43:16
And it is to. Help improve HRV heart rate
43:20
variability before sleep. So I turn on the pulsetto and I
43:25
meditate until I pass out. OK, what is your HRV?
43:30
Ideally 33 is a pat on the back for me, but usually it's
43:35
somewhere. Around 22 unfortunately.
43:38
OK, so you have a low HRV as well?
43:40
What is yours? Around the same as yours, but
43:43
like Justin's is super high. So I wish you hadn't said that
43:48
part because I don't want to label anybody.
43:50
Yeah, I have seen the differences in people who have
43:54
high HR VS. Especially at an older age and
43:57
low look, highly productive people have lower HR VS.
44:03
The guys that I know who are like really killing it and if
44:06
they're self-made, most of them in that season, they have low HR
44:11
VS. OK, well that makes me feel
44:13
better. I saw mine and I was like, am I
44:15
dying? Like it's so.
44:17
Low. They try to make it seem like
44:18
you are. But.
44:19
Heart day variability is directly linked to this right
44:24
here in your nervous system. And so if you are somebody that
44:28
is not content and you are trying to accomplish something
44:34
and you have that type of spirit, because I compare these
44:37
numbers with everybody, you're going to have a lower HRV.
44:40
And so when people come to me bragging about their HRVS, I'm
44:43
like, yeah, because either A, you're maybe you're
44:47
independently completely wealthy and have nothing to do and
44:51
that's all you do, or B, you don't want that back, you know,
44:55
if they like, because I've never seen anybody have a high HRV
44:59
unless they're like a freak athlete.
45:01
The correlation is there. So without you telling me.
45:04
Maybe the type B people because you know, like I'm triple type A
45:08
like you and Justin's like triple type B, but his is like
45:13
super high and I'm like so. I know Justin, and it's hard
45:17
probably to get a guy like Justin worried, right?
45:19
Like, Oh yeah. Never.
45:21
Well, you know. Carlton, we can have 17 things
45:24
going wrong and he's just like, what do you worry about?
45:28
Like always, Just like it'll work out the way it's supposed
45:31
to. Very laid back, very calm all
45:33
the time and I'm always bouncing off the wall.
45:35
So that makes perfect sense. Yeah, it's red alert around here
45:39
24/7. So, you know, and even when
45:41
things were good, it's just like, well, what else can we?
45:44
Do we do better? Yes, I'm the same way.
45:47
Well, Carlton, it's always so exciting to talk to you.
45:50
Always a pleasure. I'm excited that our friendship
45:53
continues after all these years. We will have you back on the
45:57
show within the next month. We'll try to do something
45:59
monthly, hot topics and Wellness, vitality.
46:02
This is really just top of mind, really hearing real world
46:06
stories, real patience and getting the truth from you.
46:09
So thank you so much for joining us today.
46:11
Excited for the viewers and listeners to hear about that and
46:15
look forward to seeing you again very soon.
46:16
Thank. You.
46:17
So much thanks everybody. Thanks for joining the show.
46:21
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46:24
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46:26
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46:29
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