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- 0:02Speaker 1: On scoring in Zastrodya.
- 0:05Speaker 2: This is the reader Panahe Show.
- 0:08Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the reader Panahee Show. I'm
- 0:11Speaker 3: Caroline Derusso.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Coming up on the show tonight.
- 0:13Speaker 3: And the new Coalition ministry has finally been announced and
- 0:16Speaker 3: yes it has raised some eyebrows.
- 0:19Speaker 2: We'll discuss that and much more with Angela.
- 0:21Speaker 3: Mollard, including Independent Senator Fadam of Payman's bombshell allegations against
- 0:26Speaker 3: colleague now Adam B.
- 0:28Speaker 4: Coleman.
- 0:29Speaker 3: He joins us to discuss the latest from the US,
- 0:31Speaker 3: including a shocking undercover video from a Democrat insider and
- 0:35Speaker 3: of course Left He's losing It, featuring Democrat Jasmine Crockett's
- 0:39Speaker 3: dire warning about Trump.
- 0:41Speaker 5: It is time for Republicans to starry calling him out
- 0:44Speaker 5: and started questioning his mental acuity and whether or not
- 0:48Speaker 5: he is equipped to serve mentally.
- 0:50Speaker 4: But joining me now is newscot colonist Angela Mollard.
- 0:54Speaker 3: Angela, after kicking the decision on the Northwest Shelf down
- 0:57Speaker 3: the road until after the election, Labor has given it
- 1:01Speaker 3: the green light.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Thankfully.
- 1:03Speaker 3: And obviously I'm from Western Australia, so I feel like
- 1:06Speaker 3: I've got a bit of.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Skin in the game in this decision.
- 1:08Speaker 3: Do you think though, you know, was it a bit
- 1:11Speaker 3: dangerous then politicizing that decision in that way.
- 1:14Speaker 2: We've definitely seen them walk.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Back their opposition to gas in recent months, we have,
- 1:18Speaker 3: and I think there's a newfound pragmatism that they needed.
- 1:21Speaker 6: You know, they've won the election, but they have to
- 1:24Speaker 6: they have to make the country work now, and this
- 1:26Speaker 6: is central to making the country work. This, of course
- 1:28Speaker 6: took six and a half years of green tape. I
- 1:30Speaker 6: think it's a bit of a shame that it didn't
- 1:32Speaker 6: get through on pleverusx watch because of course she had,
- 1:35Speaker 6: you know, walls put up.
- 1:37Speaker 7: At every turn when she was Environment minister. Of course
- 1:39Speaker 7: has come through Murray what.
- 1:41Speaker 6: But it shows that the labor is prepared to look
- 1:44Speaker 6: at the fact that if we are going to have
- 1:46Speaker 6: productivity and we are going to energize this country, you know,
- 1:49Speaker 6: both for industry and for individuals, that we need to
- 1:52Speaker 6: look at diverse sources, not just fossil fuels. The only
- 1:56Speaker 6: interesting thing I think though, is that what are the
- 1:57Speaker 6: Greens going to think about in the future, Because of
- 2:00Speaker 6: course they are in the Senate, they can block the
- 2:01Speaker 6: sistance like this in the future. So it's a good
- 2:04Speaker 6: it's a you know, it's front footed and it's smart
- 2:07Speaker 6: for Labor.
- 2:08Speaker 7: At this stage.
- 2:08Speaker 6: But I'll be interested to see how it flows through
- 2:11Speaker 6: on other projects.
- 2:12Speaker 3: Do you think it could have potentially been different if
- 2:14Speaker 3: Labor didn't have the majority that.
- 2:16Speaker 7: They have, look hugely different.
- 2:18Speaker 6: You possibly wouldn't have got that or you would have
- 2:20Speaker 6: got blowback on it, of course, but you know, they
- 2:23Speaker 6: have such a strong remit now and it'd be really
- 2:26Speaker 6: interesting to see what they do. There's so many areas
- 2:29Speaker 6: now they can push through because they have that majority.
- 2:31Speaker 6: It's just really looking at what they choose and where
- 2:34Speaker 6: they will see the greatest benefit both budge for the
- 2:38Speaker 6: budget and for the populace.
- 2:40Speaker 3: Now, Victoria doesn't seem to have got the memo on
- 2:42Speaker 3: gas and the Santa CEO Kevin Gallagher, he's come out
- 2:45Speaker 3: and basically compared Victoria to North Korea.
- 2:49Speaker 2: So what's this all about?
- 2:50Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right.
- 2:50Speaker 6: So he's at a conference since Brisbane, an oil and
- 2:53Speaker 6: gas conference, and he has basically said that they are
- 2:55Speaker 6: so back with they're so communist in their approach to
- 2:58Speaker 6: things that they are not green lighting projects that help
- 3:01Speaker 6: industry in that.
- 3:02Speaker 7: State, and I think he's right.
- 3:04Speaker 6: There is a real danger that Victoria is going to
- 3:06Speaker 6: become forever more a loser state. I mean, you have
- 3:09Speaker 6: to balance your socialist policies with your capitalist ones. Any
- 3:13Speaker 6: government does, whatever government, you know, whatever party they represent,
- 3:17Speaker 6: and you have to drive growth.
- 3:18Speaker 7: You have to drive productivity.
- 3:20Speaker 6: We have a massive productivity issue in this country nationally,
- 3:24Speaker 6: and if a state is going to fall by the wayside.
- 3:26Speaker 7: I also think it's really important.
- 3:28Speaker 6: Just as it's important to have a strong opposition in
- 3:31Speaker 6: government at a federal level, you also need strong parity
- 3:35Speaker 6: within the state and territory governments so that they're looking
- 3:38Speaker 6: at each other, that they're competing with each other, whether
- 3:40Speaker 6: that's on education as a safe productivity, whether it's on
- 3:45Speaker 6: environmental policies. By keeping an eye angel on each other
- 3:48Speaker 6: and all staying strong, and there'll be areas where some
- 3:50Speaker 6: have better resources than others.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Competitive federalism doesn't exactly.
- 3:54Speaker 6: If you've got to have that system, and a lot
- 3:56Speaker 6: of us think it's a very you know, a bloated system,
- 4:00Speaker 6: then it's got to be sharp, it's got to be
- 4:02Speaker 6: rigorous and effective. And he's quite right and drawing attention
- 4:05Speaker 6: to it and what's problematic about this by him declaring
- 4:08Speaker 6: it is that other businesses that might consider setting up
- 4:11Speaker 6: in Victoria will not.
- 4:12Speaker 7: Do that now.
- 4:13Speaker 6: So the effect on others looking at that, you know,
- 4:17Speaker 6: we've already seen this massive move for a lot of
- 4:20Speaker 6: businesses to Queensland, New South Wales other parts of the country.
- 4:24Speaker 7: I mean, Victoria needs to watch itself.
- 4:26Speaker 2: It really does.
- 4:26Speaker 3: And I think this here is a real failure of
- 4:28Speaker 3: state policy because if you are not going to develop
- 4:31Speaker 3: your resources and have the benefit of your resources, you
- 4:34Speaker 3: can't just put your hand out for more GST because
- 4:37Speaker 3: you're failing to do the things that you should be
- 4:39Speaker 3: doing in the first place.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Onto the coalition and.
- 4:42Speaker 3: They announcing you ministry or shadow ministry yesterday, what was
- 4:45Speaker 3: most notable for you in.
- 4:46Speaker 7: All of that.
- 4:47Speaker 6: Look, I know there's been a lot of discussion around
- 4:49Speaker 6: the demotion of women and the part of women and
- 4:52Speaker 6: the party. I'm much more interested, actually less in the
- 4:55Speaker 6: numbers than the portfolios, and the two portfolios that stand
- 4:58Speaker 6: up to me. Where I think that Susan those made
- 5:00Speaker 6: a mistake is obviously just into an ampership of price.
- 5:03Speaker 6: She so owns that Indigenous conversation. She was brilliant after
- 5:07Speaker 6: the Voice. Most Australians really care about how money is
- 5:12Speaker 6: being spent on the Indigenous community and whether it's effective. Now,
- 5:16Speaker 6: she just to drove through that idea that we should
- 5:20Speaker 6: have an audit on where all that money is being spent.
- 5:23Speaker 7: It's a brilliant idea.
- 5:24Speaker 6: We can look at what's effective, we can look at
- 5:26Speaker 6: what's working. She was well placed. It was also been
- 5:29Speaker 6: really smart to have her alongside you. She's somebody that
- 5:33Speaker 6: the population likes. She's great on media and you know
- 5:36Speaker 6: a lot of the Liberal and National Party aren't great
- 5:38Speaker 6: at that. So that's one thing where she made a mistake.
- 5:41Speaker 6: I also think she made the same mistake with Sarah Henderson.
- 5:45Speaker 6: There is a massive opportunity for the Coalition to make
- 5:49Speaker 6: headways on education. It was completely undiscussed in the election.
- 5:54Speaker 6: Henderson really complained about the fact that it was under
- 5:57Speaker 6: the remit.
- 5:57Speaker 7: You know, no one was talking about it.
- 5:59Speaker 6: The New Zealand government, the Nationals in New Zealand won
- 6:03Speaker 6: the election on their education mandate. We are in a
- 6:06Speaker 6: crisis situation in education in this country.
- 6:09Speaker 7: Our maths is appalling and the.
- 6:11Speaker 6: Gratin In Institute has a plan for a ten year
- 6:14Speaker 6: maths guarantee. The impact on productivity if we do not
- 6:18Speaker 6: raise our standards is immense, And that is such an
- 6:21Speaker 6: easy win you could have as the coalition appointed her.
- 6:24Speaker 6: She's got a feet under the table, she knows the portfolio,
- 6:27Speaker 6: and you could have started to make headways in a
- 6:30Speaker 6: really good portfolio that most of the Electric parents, like myself,
- 6:35Speaker 6: people across the board care about. It's not a niche interest,
- 6:38Speaker 6: it's a mainstream one.
- 6:39Speaker 7: And to now have.
- 6:40Speaker 6: To have someone else in the portfolio learning about it
- 6:43Speaker 6: when you could have got off to a good start
- 6:45Speaker 6: is shortsighted as far.
- 6:47Speaker 7: As I'm concerned. Okay, now bring your enemies close too,
- 6:49Speaker 7: you know. But also people are really self oriented.
- 6:53Speaker 6: If you're given something, you're given power to do it,
- 6:56Speaker 6: you soon align with the person who's given you that power.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Yeah, that is very interest.
- 7:00Speaker 3: That's a reasonable point to make onto independent Senator fatom
- 7:04Speaker 3: of Payment. And she's made some pretty bombshell allegations about
- 7:08Speaker 3: behavior from a colleague.
- 7:11Speaker 2: So what's the story here and here?
- 7:13Speaker 3: And do we expect this to gain traction as similar
- 7:16Speaker 3: stories have in the past.
- 7:17Speaker 6: I'd be really interested to see because this is historical.
- 7:20Speaker 6: I mean, it's only two hundred twenty twenty three. But
- 7:23Speaker 6: what I'm interested about it and I do want to
- 7:25Speaker 6: get this right. I do want to get her wording right,
- 7:27Speaker 6: so Shor. What she's doing is she's claiming that a
- 7:29Speaker 6: male colleague was drunk and pressed her at an event,
- 7:33Speaker 6: saying let's get some wine into you and see you
- 7:36Speaker 6: dance on the table. Now she's claiming sexual harassment and
- 7:39Speaker 6: racial harassment.
- 7:41Speaker 7: I'm not an expert.
- 7:41Speaker 6: I don't pretend to know whether that is sexual or
- 7:43Speaker 6: racial harassment. But to me, that's being a dickhead and
- 7:47Speaker 6: it's being ugly. So call the dickhead policy. And this
- 7:50Speaker 6: is what I want more women to do. She says
- 7:53Speaker 6: she's raising this now because there's more young women in
- 7:56Speaker 6: Parliament that are coming through. She wants them to be
- 7:58Speaker 6: protected in that environment. I'm not sure that that's her
- 8:02Speaker 6: motivation here. I think she's bringing attention back to herself.
- 8:04Speaker 6: And look, if somebody feels uncomfortably racially, sexually, they have
- 8:08Speaker 6: the remit and the right to talk about that.
- 8:11Speaker 7: But I also want.
- 8:12Speaker 6: Women to just stand up in the moment and turn
- 8:15Speaker 6: around and go, don't be a dick Honestly, you're just ugly.
- 8:18Speaker 6: Because most men or anybody any gender who says something
- 8:22Speaker 6: stupid when questioned on it in the moment will usually
- 8:25Speaker 6: come back you usually persolutely.
- 8:26Speaker 3: Look, I'm all for I'm all for a formal nodheads policy.
- 8:31Speaker 3: I think I think it is served various parts of
- 8:35Speaker 3: the political and corporate world very well. And always the
- 8:38Speaker 3: best time, if you feel like you're able to, is
- 8:41Speaker 3: to deal with it in the moment, because that there
- 8:44Speaker 3: is actually an empowering, empowering for you in that moment,
- 8:48Speaker 3: rather than feeling terrible about something afterwards and maybe wishing
- 8:52Speaker 3: you had have said.
- 8:52Speaker 6: I love what you're saying there, because you're talking about
- 8:54Speaker 6: agency and every time you grab your own agency.
- 8:57Speaker 7: And you know, look, as a woman who's worked in
- 8:59Speaker 7: the work, but you.
- 9:00Speaker 6: Know a very long time, I was going to put
- 9:02Speaker 6: a year number on yeh, but you know, I'm not
- 9:05Speaker 6: pensionable yet.
- 9:06Speaker 7: But I do.
- 9:07Speaker 6: I really feel you're right on that, that you know,
- 9:09Speaker 6: that being having some self determination. And here she looks
- 9:12Speaker 6: she took it to the to the Parliamentary Workplace Support Service.
- 9:17Speaker 6: We will I don't know if we'll find out what
- 9:19Speaker 6: actually happened from that, but I you know, in all
- 9:21Speaker 6: these cases, you know there are a lot like defamation.
- 9:23Speaker 6: You need facts and clarity on them to fully understand
- 9:26Speaker 6: the situation.
- 9:26Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely now onto the A and U and they
- 9:30Speaker 3: have walked back.
- 9:32Speaker 2: That they have walked back where they got to.
- 9:34Speaker 3: On the definition of anti Semitism. It's been panned by
- 9:38Speaker 3: Jewish groups as you would expect. So what has happened here?
- 9:41Speaker 2: Why the walmbag?
- 9:42Speaker 7: That's right.
- 9:43Speaker 6: So most of the universities in the country have either
- 9:46Speaker 6: signed up to the two definitions, and that's pretty similar
- 9:49Speaker 6: on anti semitism, A and YOU hasn't. And there's been
- 9:53Speaker 6: a lot of demonstrations and concerns around anti semitism and
- 9:57Speaker 6: some issues. Look, there's some question about the factor leadership
- 10:00Speaker 6: on holiday and I've been enjoying looking at.
- 10:02Speaker 7: Julie Bishop's instagram on holiday. She seems to be having
- 10:05Speaker 7: a jolly old time.
- 10:06Speaker 6: Of course, Look the fact that they haven't done it yet,
- 10:10Speaker 6: is it that they haven't pushed it through because they're
- 10:12Speaker 6: still considering it and they want.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Just sitting on it?
- 10:14Speaker 7: Are they just sitting it on to the end of
- 10:16Speaker 7: the year.
- 10:17Speaker 6: At the end of the day, I think whether or
- 10:19Speaker 6: not you have a definition or not, half the time
- 10:22Speaker 6: we can't actually say what's sorracism?
- 10:24Speaker 7: What is semitism? But we know when we see him,
- 10:27Speaker 7: let's see it.
- 10:27Speaker 6: And without having a definition doesn't mean they cannot prosecute
- 10:31Speaker 6: or when there are instances where that occurs. And I
- 10:34Speaker 6: think so, Yes, of course we need a framework, but
- 10:37Speaker 6: we shouldn't be too overly concerned that this hasn't been
- 10:39Speaker 6: pushed through yet. Better to do it properly and have
- 10:41Speaker 6: something fair enough to do it once, exactly, measure twice,
- 10:45Speaker 6: do it once.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Yeah, and the lady.
- 10:46Speaker 4: Needs a holiday, Then the lady needs a holiday now.
- 10:49Speaker 4: Very interesting piece about the changes to travel.
- 10:52Speaker 2: Rules in twenty twenty five.
- 10:54Speaker 4: I love to travel, but can you tell us what
- 10:55Speaker 4: are the tricks and the.
- 10:57Speaker 3: Traps for the intrepid Australians heading overseas.
- 11:00Speaker 6: I need to bundle off home because my daughter's taken
- 11:02Speaker 6: off in two weeks time and she's going to get
- 11:04Speaker 6: stung for these fines. Okay, basically, Caroline, the whole of
- 11:07Speaker 6: Europe seems to be looking at fining, probably us because
- 11:11Speaker 6: where the people that go there, all our gap years
- 11:13Speaker 6: and all our boomers who end up going over to
- 11:15Speaker 6: the northern Hemisphere during the summertime. These are astonishing Portugal,
- 11:20Speaker 6: for instance, they're going to have a three thousand dollar
- 11:23Speaker 6: fine for being naked in public.
- 11:25Speaker 7: Probably fair enough.
- 11:26Speaker 6: The bikini fine, okay, if you don't wear a bikini,
- 11:29Speaker 6: buy the pool or a beach, you're going to be fine.
- 11:32Speaker 6: What's that two hundred and two five hundred dollars? You
- 11:38Speaker 6: know in Manly where I live in New South Wales,
- 11:42Speaker 6: you wouldn't have anyone in the supermarket get back bikinis.
- 11:45Speaker 6: Lisbon's having a three five hundred dollar fine for being
- 11:48Speaker 6: noisy and a quiet place.
- 11:51Speaker 7: I was in Lisbon last year. The whole point of
- 11:53Speaker 7: Lisbon is that it's noisy where you go there.
- 11:55Speaker 6: Turkey, if you take your seatbelt off before the plane
- 11:58Speaker 6: says you can, you're going to be fine.
- 12:00Speaker 7: One hundred and four dollars.
- 12:02Speaker 6: There's no pub crules, so like loads of places in
- 12:04Speaker 6: Europe say, you know you can't go on a pub rule, Well,
- 12:07Speaker 6: what defines a pub crule?
- 12:08Speaker 7: Is that two pubs? Or is that six pubs?
- 12:11Speaker 4: But you know what the great thing is, how many
- 12:12Speaker 4: is a crawl?
- 12:13Speaker 7: How is a what's a crawl?
- 12:15Speaker 6: For you?
- 12:16Speaker 7: Well? Three?
- 12:17Speaker 4: IM a non drinker, so oh there you got there.
- 12:20Speaker 4: I'm a little bit useless in this particulous circumstances.
- 12:23Speaker 3: But you would you would think it would have to
- 12:25Speaker 3: be at least three or four because you would always
- 12:27Speaker 3: go somewhere before dinner, have dinner after dinner. So that's
- 12:30Speaker 3: three that could technically I.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Think to be four or more.
- 12:33Speaker 6: Is that you know what the real opportunity here is
- 12:35Speaker 6: for our tourism industry. We need to come up with
- 12:38Speaker 6: a new campaign which is basically, come as you are,
- 12:41Speaker 6: where your bikini in the supermarket, you can have as
- 12:43Speaker 6: many go to as many pubs as you like. There's
- 12:45Speaker 6: one there's one that says, you know how you have
- 12:48Speaker 6: those all inclusive deals? Yes, well the all inclusive alcohol
- 12:51Speaker 6: deal is now that you can only have maximum of
- 12:53Speaker 6: six drinks.
- 12:54Speaker 7: So who's going to police that?
- 12:55Speaker 6: If you've got an all inclusive deal, who's counting your
- 12:57Speaker 6: drinks as you're ordering them?
- 12:59Speaker 7: Look, Europe's getting tough, we know Barcelona. There's the laura that.
- 13:01Speaker 4: Means there's an opportunity here for us in Australia.
- 13:04Speaker 6: Absolutely, we just sell it as that anything goes country
- 13:07Speaker 6: absolutely a bit messy, it might be a bit noisy,
- 13:09Speaker 6: there might be a few boobs hanging out.
- 13:11Speaker 3: But you know, We've been that country in the past
- 13:13Speaker 3: and I think we should celebrate it.
- 13:14Speaker 4: But remember Caroline.
- 13:16Speaker 6: When I lived in Britain back in the nineties, everyone
- 13:19Speaker 6: had their boobs out on a beach, So I don't
- 13:21Speaker 6: know what this about to.
- 13:22Speaker 2: Had become prudes.
- 13:23Speaker 3: As always, Thank you so much, Angela Molla, Thanks Carolyn.
- 13:27Speaker 3: Joining me now is child and adolescent psychologist Clairo Claire.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Thank you for coming to the show. Big Few or
- 13:35Speaker 3: about Newington College going co ed. There were some legal
- 13:39Speaker 3: proceedings they have failed. What's the reasoning behind this particular decision.
- 13:45Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks Carolyn. Yeah, the decision from Newington, big private
- 13:49Speaker 8: private boys' school soon to be co ed now in Sydney,
- 13:52Speaker 8: and of course there was a big legal battle to
- 13:56Speaker 8: try and stop that, mostly from the old boys of
- 13:58Speaker 8: the school. That's fallen over basically with a judge ruling
- 14:03Speaker 8: that you know, the constitution allows this of the school,
- 14:07Speaker 8: that they have every right to go ahead with that plan,
- 14:10Speaker 8: which I think is coming in with girls now in
- 14:13Speaker 8: twenty thirty three. So it's a very disappointed people, I
- 14:17Speaker 8: suppose with that decision that school Newington in Sydney, very
- 14:21Speaker 8: prestigious private school, is one of a few now private
- 14:25Speaker 8: boys schools.
- 14:26Speaker 2: That are turning co ed.
- 14:28Speaker 8: I would note it's never actually the girls' schools that
- 14:30Speaker 8: welcome in the boys. It always seems to be the
- 14:33Speaker 8: other way around. But there we go, and.
- 14:35Speaker 3: Look that there was obviously legal proceedings and that was
- 14:37Speaker 3: to do with the interpretation of that particular constitution. But
- 14:41Speaker 3: onto the issue of single sex versus co ed education.
- 14:45Speaker 3: What's your view on single sex schooling or co ed
- 14:49Speaker 3: schooling and the impacts and potential impacts on child learning. Yeah,
- 14:54Speaker 3: this topic comes around and it seems quite polarized, but
- 14:59Speaker 3: I mean my take is there.
- 15:01Speaker 8: Needs to be choice. It's not an either or approach.
- 15:04Speaker 8: The outcomes on learning. Actually, there's no really conclusive research.
- 15:09Speaker 8: There is some research to the shows, of course, that
- 15:11Speaker 8: children come out with maybe some confidence and empathy and
- 15:14Speaker 8: maybe some better communication skills with the opposite sex in
- 15:17Speaker 8: coed education. Of course, the argument for coed education is
- 15:21Speaker 8: that it mirrors the real world, so communities and workplaces
- 15:24Speaker 8: and families aren't gender segregated. But then I would argue,
- 15:29Speaker 8: there's a lot of kids who do really well in
- 15:31Speaker 8: a single sex school, so this has to be about
- 15:34Speaker 8: a parent's choice. There's a lot of your research that
- 15:37Speaker 8: shows that some girls are less inhibited, they're less worried
- 15:41Speaker 8: about their image. As you can imagine, without boys around,
- 15:44Speaker 8: they're more likely to take up stem subjects. And I think,
- 15:48Speaker 8: you know, sometimes culture and tradition is just more important
- 15:50Speaker 8: to people, and that's okay. So I just think progression
- 15:54Speaker 8: should be about choice for parents looking at their individual child.
- 15:59Speaker 8: A child's like cologists. But I've got two kids, and
- 16:01Speaker 8: I actually think i've got one of each. One will
- 16:03Speaker 8: do really well in a single sex school. One probably
- 16:06Speaker 8: co eds. So I just don't think that we can
- 16:09Speaker 8: have progression if we're going to eliminate or minimize choice
- 16:13Speaker 8: for parents.
- 16:14Speaker 3: No fair enough, I went to a single sex school.
- 16:17Speaker 3: I was a massive nerd, so I think it suited
- 16:20Speaker 3: me really well.
- 16:21Speaker 2: Actually.
- 16:22Speaker 3: Now onto the perennial issue, unfortunately, of closing the gap,
- 16:25Speaker 3: and again a big part of that is health and
- 16:28Speaker 3: education outcomes for Indigenous kids. Have we made any progress
- 16:34Speaker 3: recently and is there anything new that's proposed in that
- 16:36Speaker 3: space which is likely to help those particular issues.
- 16:41Speaker 2: Well, we're not making.
- 16:42Speaker 8: Much progress as far as I can see. The latest
- 16:45Speaker 8: report shows that four out of seventeen objective outcomes for
- 16:50Speaker 8: the Closing the Gap policy are on track only four
- 16:54Speaker 8: out of the seventeen, so no, we're not doing much.
- 16:56Speaker 8: And the latest proposal is that, oh, you know, need
- 17:00Speaker 8: to include decision making with communities and indigenous voices, and
- 17:05Speaker 8: of course we should. That makes sense and I think
- 17:07Speaker 8: that most Australians recognize that we don't need a third
- 17:10Speaker 8: chamber of Parliament to do that. We don't need to
- 17:12Speaker 8: mess around with changing the constitution.
- 17:15Speaker 2: We just need to get on and do it.
- 17:18Speaker 8: As you said, you know, a lot of this comes
- 17:20Speaker 8: down to health and education, but across the board, I
- 17:23Speaker 8: think one hundred percent of Australians are ashamed and appalled
- 17:27Speaker 8: at the developmental outcomes of Indigenous kids, who by four
- 17:31Speaker 8: and five years old are absolutely you know, delayed developmentally
- 17:37Speaker 8: compared to non Indigenous kids. So I think, like in
- 17:40Speaker 8: most areas, it's just about more action, isn't it, and
- 17:43Speaker 8: it's less policy making. And from an education point of view,
- 17:47Speaker 8: I actually think that we need to come to this
- 17:51Speaker 8: from the point of view of not significantly lowering our
- 17:54Speaker 8: expectations for Indigenous kids, like we kind of think they're indigenous,
- 17:59Speaker 8: so you know, they're not going to attend school and
- 18:01Speaker 8: that's okay, that's not okay, because that's how we set
- 18:04Speaker 8: them up for a better life in the future, is
- 18:06Speaker 8: through education. So we need to hold the same standard
- 18:10Speaker 8: for these Indigenous kids and these expectations for them as
- 18:13Speaker 8: we would other Aussie kids.
- 18:15Speaker 3: Yeah, and they still they deserve to be able to achieve,
- 18:18Speaker 3: just like any other child in the country. Now onto
- 18:21Speaker 3: youth crime, and I think it's pretty fair to say
- 18:23Speaker 3: that it's a bit out.
- 18:24Speaker 2: Of control in Victoria.
- 18:26Speaker 3: There's now been an immediate ban on the selling of machetes.
- 18:30Speaker 3: Why is the government in Victoria so obsessed We're treating
- 18:33Speaker 3: the symptom and not treating the problem.
- 18:38Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I mean, on one hand, there was an
- 18:40Speaker 8: immediate ban. On the other hand, the other government gave
- 18:44Speaker 8: forty eight hours to retailers. So one could argue we're
- 18:47Speaker 8: safer now with less machetes on the street. But I
- 18:49Speaker 8: don't know if we are safer. I think there's more
- 18:51Speaker 8: machetes because of the fire sale that happened in the
- 18:54Speaker 8: last forty eight hours. They've all sold out. So you know,
- 18:57Speaker 8: it's just the same thing with Alan government of reactive
- 19:01Speaker 8: policy and a really short term look at things. Research
- 19:06Speaker 8: by the IPA into youth crime has shown actually the
- 19:10Speaker 8: biggest to turrent of youth crime is not actually things
- 19:14Speaker 8: like the severity of the punishment. Youth criminals are not
- 19:17Speaker 8: thinking about that. The biggest to turrent is whether in
- 19:20Speaker 8: the moment they're going to be caught or not. So
- 19:23Speaker 8: that's a pretty cost benefit shallow analysis, but that's the
- 19:27Speaker 8: reality of it. So I think if the Allen government
- 19:31Speaker 8: was really serious about cracking down on this, they would
- 19:34Speaker 8: put their funding and support into the police and have
- 19:37Speaker 8: them more visible. And if mashety attacks are happening in
- 19:41Speaker 8: shopping centers, there needs to be police and shopping centers.
- 19:44Speaker 8: At the end of the day, that's no different to
- 19:46Speaker 8: the primary school yard, is it? Where you know, troublesome
- 19:49Speaker 8: kind of kids don't act out when the teachers on duty.
- 19:53Speaker 8: And that's what the IPA research says. I think that
- 19:55Speaker 8: that's where we need to look at things. But at
- 19:57Speaker 8: the end of the day, I think all the policies
- 19:59Speaker 8: and ideas come out to really fringe and around the edges,
- 20:02Speaker 8: bail reforms and things like that. But actually that's how
- 20:06Speaker 8: youth criminals decite in the moment impulsively whether they're going
- 20:10Speaker 8: to act out or not.
- 20:12Speaker 3: No fair enough. Now, lastly, and I've only got about
- 20:15Speaker 3: a minute yet left, but a Canadian university has launched
- 20:18Speaker 3: an adulting one to one course to teach basic life skills.
- 20:22Speaker 4: Now, Claire, isn't this just the mother.
- 20:24Speaker 3: Of all indictments that we've failed our children on development?
- 20:30Speaker 8: Yes, this university cause is proposing to do things like
- 20:35Speaker 8: teaching not kids, twenty year olds how to put the
- 20:39Speaker 8: washing on and how to do the super much shopping.
- 20:41Speaker 8: This is the job of parents. And I've always said,
- 20:44Speaker 8: you know, we completely overprotect our kids in the real world.
- 20:47Speaker 2: We underprotect them in the online world.
- 20:50Speaker 8: But kids need to be able to by the time
- 20:52Speaker 8: they're in primary school walk into a shop and buy something.
- 20:55Speaker 8: We absolutely need to be teaching life skills.
- 20:58Speaker 2: It's not enough just.
- 20:59Speaker 8: To house your here and feed them. You need to
- 21:01Speaker 8: be parenting them. You've got eighteen years to turn out
- 21:04Speaker 8: a fully functioning human in society. It's a lot longer
- 21:08Speaker 8: than most mammals get and we're failing that and we've
- 21:11Speaker 8: got universities teaching it, which just seems bizarre.
- 21:13Speaker 2: It seems totally.
- 21:14Speaker 3: Bizarre given some of the other things we worry about.
- 21:17Speaker 3: Our universities you think your kids would be better off
- 21:20Speaker 3: learning those life skills at home. But as always, Clairot,
- 21:23Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining the show.
- 21:25Speaker 8: Thanks a lot still to come.
- 21:27Speaker 3: Lefties Losing It, Plus shocking footage has emerged of a
- 21:31Speaker 3: Democrat insider exposing Joe Biden's inner circle.
- 21:35Speaker 2: Adam B.
- 21:36Speaker 3: Coleman joins me next with the details. Welcome back to
- 21:48Speaker 3: the show, and now it's time for Lefties Losing It
- 21:50Speaker 3: and Democrat Representative Jasmine Crockett.
- 21:53Speaker 4: Well, she is back in the headlines. You right, Remember
- 21:56Speaker 4: when she ridiculed Texas Governor Greg.
- 21:58Speaker 3: Abbott for being in a wheelchair, calling him the governor
- 22:03Speaker 3: hot wheels.
- 22:04Speaker 5: We in these hot ass Texas streets, Honey, y'all know
- 22:10Speaker 5: we got governor hot.
- 22:11Speaker 8: Wheels down there.
- 22:12Speaker 9: Come on now, and the only thing hot about him
- 22:17Speaker 9: is that he is a hot ass mass honey.
- 22:20Speaker 3: Or perhaps the time she admitted that she was only
- 22:22Speaker 3: hired because she was black.
- 22:24Speaker 9: When I first became a public defender, I had no
- 22:26Speaker 9: criminal defense experience and I walked in and I told
- 22:29Speaker 9: my boss, Charlie, I said, listen, you should hire me.
- 22:33Speaker 9: He said why, I said, because I'm black.
- 22:35Speaker 3: Well, now she's come out swinging, calling for Republicans to
- 22:38Speaker 3: question President Trump's mental acuity.
- 22:40Speaker 5: It is time for Republicans to start calling him out
- 22:43Speaker 5: and started questioning his mental acuity and whether or not
- 22:47Speaker 5: he is equipped to serve mentally.
- 22:49Speaker 3: Well, that's all very interesting because where was she when
- 22:53Speaker 3: people were questioning Joe Biden's mental acuity?
- 22:56Speaker 5: People tried to talk about the mental acuity of Joe Biden,
- 23:01Speaker 5: and as someone who was able to interact with him,
- 23:03Speaker 5: I never questioned his acuity.
- 23:06Speaker 3: And if that isn't enough, Jasmine Crockett cringe for one day,
- 23:09Speaker 3: enjoy this short clip that she shared on her social media. Yes,
- 23:13Speaker 3: she actually thought this was something worth sharing.
- 23:16Speaker 10: Jasmine Crocking, she rises with the dum fighting for justice.
- 23:24Speaker 1: I will never be gone.
- 23:26Speaker 7: Now.
- 23:27Speaker 3: See here none other than Hollywood action star Chuck Norris. Well,
- 23:30Speaker 3: he explains why he left the Democrats and became a Republican.
- 23:33Speaker 2: I used to be a Democrat, but unfortunately the Democrats
- 23:38Speaker 2: went too far to the left, and the Republicans moved
- 23:42Speaker 2: into their position that the.
- 23:43Speaker 4: Democrats were forty years ago.
- 23:46Speaker 2: Yes to see, and so the what the Democrats.
- 23:49Speaker 6: Believed forty years ago, the Republicans believed today.
- 23:53Speaker 10: And so I realized that I had to go.
- 23:56Speaker 4: To a Republican because the Democrats has got to for
- 23:59Speaker 4: oft off the trail.
- 24:01Speaker 3: And it's not at all hard to see what Chuck
- 24:02Speaker 3: is talking about.
- 24:04Speaker 2: Look at this new.
- 24:05Speaker 3: Poll which indicates that AOC best represents the Democratic Party values.
- 24:11Speaker 11: Who is in fact the leader of the Democratic Party.
- 24:13Speaker 11: And a recent poll showed Congresswoman Alexandria Casio Cortez topping
- 24:17Speaker 11: the list of Democrats who best represent the party's values.
- 24:21Speaker 2: That should terrify every Democrat.
- 24:23Speaker 3: Yes, that's the same AOC, who, when she isn't pretending
- 24:26Speaker 3: to be a fashion model, is telling people to ignore
- 24:29Speaker 3: the rule of law.
- 24:30Speaker 12: They believe that the Biden demonistration should ignore this ruling.
- 24:34Speaker 12: I think that we know the courts have the legitimacy
- 24:40Speaker 12: and they rely on the legitimacy of their rulings.
- 24:43Speaker 3: Classy with a capital K joining me now is political
- 24:47Speaker 3: commentator and author of The Children We Left Behind.
- 24:51Speaker 2: Adam B. Coleman.
- 24:52Speaker 3: Adam an allegation was made some months back about the
- 24:55Speaker 3: use of autopen during the Biden administration, and then obviously
- 24:59Speaker 3: consequently questions over who was pulling the strings if the
- 25:03Speaker 3: former president wasn't where in signing things himself.
- 25:06Speaker 4: So, what's the latest with this auto pen situation.
- 25:11Speaker 13: Yeah, the latest with the autopen situation is that the
- 25:14Speaker 13: GOP is now starting to do investigations. They're making claims
- 25:18Speaker 13: about staffers being the ones who are actually making decisions
- 25:23Speaker 13: as to what is actually being signed supposedly by the president.
- 25:27Speaker 13: And coincidentally, you have some Democrats, some of them are
- 25:32Speaker 13: media personalities like Jake Tapper, who are coming out and
- 25:36Speaker 13: saying that Joe Biden's cognitive ability was declining. The thing
- 25:41Speaker 13: that we all could tell, you know, if we're just
- 25:43Speaker 13: being honest and paying attention, and that puts into question
- 25:47Speaker 13: was he aware of all the things that are happening
- 25:49Speaker 13: in the White House? And if he wasn't, who was
- 25:52Speaker 13: behind it? So it's less about the autopen because even
- 25:55Speaker 13: Trump has used autopen, but he's aware that it's being used,
- 26:00Speaker 13: he's given the authorization for being used. But if Joe
- 26:03Speaker 13: Biden is sleeping all day and someone else is turning
- 26:06Speaker 13: on the autopan function and pardoning people just because the
- 26:10Speaker 13: occurring favors, that's a massive issue.
- 26:13Speaker 2: Yeah, potentially a huge issue.
- 26:15Speaker 3: Now some big admissions from a Democrat insider. Now there
- 26:19Speaker 3: was an undercover video from Project Veritash showing DNC Vice
- 26:23Speaker 3: chair David Hogg revealing that Jill Biden's chief of staff
- 26:26Speaker 3: allegedly held a lot of power.
- 26:28Speaker 1: The bigger issue was like the inner circle that was
- 26:30Speaker 1: about Biden.
- 26:32Speaker 7: That's it, and I keep stressing, I keep strengths to
- 26:34Speaker 7: you another Jill Biden's chief of.
- 26:36Speaker 8: Staff, like had an enormous amount of hour Jill Biden,
- 26:39Speaker 8: Jill Biden's chief That was like an open secrett of
- 26:42Speaker 8: like I would avoid you.
- 26:45Speaker 6: You was scary.
- 26:46Speaker 10: What was the thing? Anthony Flord, Now.
- 26:50Speaker 3: This is something that you know a number of people
- 26:52Speaker 3: were speculating about for some times, and this revelation really
- 26:58Speaker 3: puts moments like this inter question.
- 27:00Speaker 14: We're grateful and Jill is here today, heard that clapping.
- 27:05Speaker 14: It wasn't for me. Today at the Top four meeting,
- 27:07Speaker 14: Jill's going to give an update on the House Initiative,
- 27:11Speaker 14: White House Audition.
- 27:12Speaker 3: Adam, what impact does this have on people's trusting institutions?
- 27:19Speaker 13: Well, it's and this is having a massive impact. You know,
- 27:24Speaker 13: even Democrats are questioning their entire party. They're questioning, how
- 27:29Speaker 13: did this man even end up in the position of power.
- 27:33Speaker 13: Speaking for myself, personally as a former Democrat. When I
- 27:36Speaker 13: saw him running for office, I asked the question as
- 27:38Speaker 13: to why, what is the motive behind all of this,
- 27:41Speaker 13: because it was very clear that he was falling apart.
- 27:44Speaker 13: It was very clear who's belligerent. And it's also clear
- 27:48Speaker 13: that the reason they wanted him is because he was controllable.
- 27:52Speaker 13: They were able to push all types of agendas without
- 27:55Speaker 13: any sort of fight from him, And he got to
- 27:57Speaker 13: have the title as President, and Joe Biden got to
- 28:01Speaker 13: be the first Lady, and.
- 28:02Speaker 10: So everyone was wielding power around him.
- 28:05Speaker 13: But no one was actually thinking about the American people
- 28:08Speaker 13: and what was actually happening.
- 28:09Speaker 10: So no, a lot of people are not having.
- 28:13Speaker 13: Trust in institutions insanely that they did a decade ago
- 28:16Speaker 13: at Lease.
- 28:19Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, And look, you can understand when those
- 28:22Speaker 3: sorts of allegations are made that people really question even
- 28:25Speaker 3: the most basic of institutions. Functions now onto a Colorado
- 28:29Speaker 3: sports brand and it's found it'sself in some trouble with
- 28:31Speaker 3: the state's anti discrimination law.
- 28:33Speaker 2: What's the story here?
- 28:37Speaker 13: Essentially, their new law is an antidiscriminatory law, but it's
- 28:42Speaker 13: a very progressive antidiscriminatory law, and Essentially, it's trying to
- 28:46Speaker 13: cldify that if you use certain language in advertising, that
- 28:51Speaker 13: it can be seen as discriminatory, and that every person
- 28:55Speaker 13: in Colorado supposed to have some sort of right to
- 28:58Speaker 13: non discriminatory advertising. So, if you're someone who is transgender
- 29:04Speaker 13: and believes that even though you're a biological man, you're
- 29:07Speaker 13: actually a woman, someone saying that trans women are men
- 29:13Speaker 13: is someone that is being offensive to you, and so
- 29:16Speaker 13: that could lead to all different types of lawsuits and
- 29:18Speaker 13: things of that nature. So XXXY assuming because they're putting
- 29:23Speaker 13: their business in jeopardy by saying biological truths that biological
- 29:28Speaker 13: men are men, regardless if they were addressed or not.
- 29:32Speaker 13: So this is essentially why they're trying to fight back
- 29:35Speaker 13: against the state.
- 29:36Speaker 10: And I hope they do.
- 29:37Speaker 3: Well well and we will say how that goes. But
- 29:42Speaker 3: I mean, this year is not a situation in isolation.
- 29:45Speaker 3: Trump's threat to cut federal funding over the mission of
- 29:48Speaker 3: trans athletes in women's sport has prompted a rule change
- 29:51Speaker 3: in California.
- 29:54Speaker 2: What's happened here? What's the latest with these.
- 29:59Speaker 13: Yeah, essentially they're reacting to Trump, but they're giving a
- 30:02Speaker 13: lukewarm response.
- 30:04Speaker 10: So the championships that they have.
- 30:06Speaker 13: Obviously they are trans athletes who are competing, and it's
- 30:09Speaker 13: of course biological men always competing in women's games. So
- 30:14Speaker 13: what they did was for the spots that the trans
- 30:17Speaker 13: athletes were taking up, they added additional spots for the
- 30:20Speaker 13: women who lost their spots because of the trans men
- 30:23Speaker 13: being there, which is superficially fine, but at the same time,
- 30:28Speaker 13: it doesn't remove these trans athletes who have a disadvantage
- 30:32Speaker 13: or who have an advantage over the women.
- 30:35Speaker 10: It doesn't remove.
- 30:36Speaker 13: Them from actually winning, so they can still take medals.
- 30:40Speaker 13: They still can win these competitions.
- 30:42Speaker 10: So it's a moot point.
- 30:44Speaker 13: It's like, okay, sure we'll have more women be involved
- 30:47Speaker 13: as they lose, Like, that's not any sort of fairness.
- 30:51Speaker 13: And for them to think that this actually abides by
- 30:54Speaker 13: what Trump is actually wanting, I think is far fetched.
- 30:58Speaker 10: But we'll see what happened. I think that there's more
- 31:02Speaker 10: changes that are coming down the pipe. But if they
- 31:04Speaker 10: think this is it, this is definitely not the solution.
- 31:07Speaker 3: Well, there really is a big difference between participation and competition.
- 31:11Speaker 3: So I take your point there that it is a point.
- 31:14Speaker 3: Now our next story is almost amusing because when you
- 31:17Speaker 3: think of the US Secret Service, you think of you
- 31:21Speaker 3: think of discipline, But a couple of officers have found
- 31:24Speaker 3: themselves suspended this waking well, what I would say, is
- 31:27Speaker 3: a rather unusual set of circumstances.
- 31:29Speaker 13: Yes, it's an unusual set of circumstances when it comes
- 31:32Speaker 13: to two Secret Service members fighting each other and there
- 31:36Speaker 13: being caught on camera outside of Obama's location. But it
- 31:41Speaker 13: just goes to show you the level of this array
- 31:45Speaker 13: that is stemming from the federal government and especially coming
- 31:48Speaker 13: from the Biden administration.
- 31:50Speaker 10: And I would wager that.
- 31:52Speaker 13: Some of these people, I don't know these particular agents
- 31:55Speaker 13: if they were hired during the Biden administration, but.
- 31:58Speaker 10: There is a lot of chaos that was happening.
- 32:00Speaker 13: We can also look at what happened with Donald Trump
- 32:03Speaker 13: and the assassination attempt and the failures of the Secret
- 32:06Speaker 13: Service that led for him to be even shot in
- 32:09Speaker 13: the first place.
- 32:10Speaker 10: So none of this shocks me.
- 32:13Speaker 13: But the Secret Service has a little bit of tumultuous history.
- 32:18Speaker 13: We've heard, you know, situations of them getting prostitutes and
- 32:21Speaker 13: foreign nations and things like that, So this doesn't strike
- 32:24Speaker 13: me as completely abnormal.
- 32:27Speaker 3: Maybe they're not as disciplined as we all give.
- 32:29Speaker 2: Them credit for.
- 32:30Speaker 3: Now, we've also learned that the FBI is revisiting a
- 32:33Speaker 3: few things.
- 32:33Speaker 4: Which might have potentially fallen off there.
- 32:35Speaker 3: To do list like the White House cocaine find what's
- 32:39Speaker 3: this all about?
- 32:40Speaker 2: And should we speak expecting any action here?
- 32:43Speaker 13: Personally, I don't think there's going to be any sort
- 32:45Speaker 13: of action. You know, we're talking a small amount of cocaine,
- 32:50Speaker 13: not that there should be any cocaine in the White House,
- 32:54Speaker 13: but it was very clear that the Biden administration wasn't
- 32:58Speaker 13: going to take this particular situation seriously. For all I know,
- 33:02Speaker 13: it could have been a staffer who left some sort
- 33:05Speaker 13: of cocaine at in the White House. I don't know
- 33:08Speaker 13: if this is that big of a deal. You know,
- 33:11Speaker 13: if it was a lot of cocaine, if it was
- 33:13Speaker 13: a large mountain of cocaine, then it would be a
- 33:15Speaker 13: different story. But it looks like it was for a
- 33:18Speaker 13: personal usage. They can do their investigation, but I don't
- 33:22Speaker 13: think much will come from it.
- 33:24Speaker 3: Now on to Democratic Senator Michael Bennett, and he's at
- 33:26Speaker 3: a crack at his own party or his party's brand,
- 33:30Speaker 3: I should say, And I'm sure there's some truth in it.
- 33:33Speaker 2: But shouldn't they be concerned.
- 33:35Speaker 3: Shouldn't these concerns be raised and dealt with internally?
- 33:41Speaker 10: No, I actually like it that it's public.
- 33:46Speaker 13: It shows that it tells the American public that they're
- 33:51Speaker 13: finally waking.
- 33:51Speaker 10: Up just a little bit.
- 33:53Speaker 13: There's a little bit of glimpse, a little bit of
- 33:55Speaker 13: a hope, but then realizing that Democratic Party is lost,
- 33:59Speaker 13: and they finally recognize that they're a bit lost. And
- 34:02Speaker 13: some of especially the blue dog Democrats, are getting fed
- 34:06Speaker 13: up of the progressives who've taken over, who've led this
- 34:10Speaker 13: charge of being anti male and talking about patriarchy and
- 34:14Speaker 13: everything is oppressive. So yeah, there's a bit of disgust,
- 34:18Speaker 13: and I'm glad it's finally happening. I am one of
- 34:21Speaker 13: those Democrats who walked away and became an independent because
- 34:24Speaker 13: of this very thing. It is a party that is
- 34:27Speaker 13: not appealing anymore. It doesn't speak to the majority of
- 34:30Speaker 13: the American population. They cater to a niche audience of
- 34:34Speaker 13: typically wealth the elitists, coastal elitists, and they don't speak
- 34:39Speaker 13: the same language I do.
- 34:40Speaker 10: They don't have the same concerns that I have.
- 34:42Speaker 13: So I'm glad that he's actually being public about it
- 34:46Speaker 13: because while they're you know the reason for him saying
- 34:50Speaker 13: this is because he's anti Trump whatever, but he is
- 34:53Speaker 13: speaking some truth that their brand is actually terrible.
- 34:58Speaker 3: And I suppose for people out there, you know, like you,
- 35:01Speaker 3: who are worried about the brand, you're hoping that they
- 35:03Speaker 3: maybe have just worked it all out. Now, the US's
- 35:07Speaker 3: enemies have criticized Donald Trump's proposed one hundred and seventy
- 35:10Speaker 3: five billion dollar Golden Dome missile shield. Is this meant
- 35:15Speaker 3: to be a joke.
- 35:18Speaker 10: No, Actually, he's very serious about it.
- 35:22Speaker 13: Believes during Trump's the first administration where space force was
- 35:25Speaker 13: brought about, So he's very serious about reinforcing space, you know,
- 35:31Speaker 13: having some sort of space command looking out for the
- 35:36Speaker 13: America's interests when it comes to space as well. Of course,
- 35:40Speaker 13: North Korea and Russia aren't going to like it, trust
- 35:43Speaker 13: and belief. If they're the ones doing it, they wouldn't
- 35:46Speaker 13: be complaining.
- 35:47Speaker 10: So you know, they're.
- 35:49Speaker 13: Saying that this might turn into another space race or
- 35:52Speaker 13: arms race or some sort of race. But I don't
- 35:56Speaker 13: really care what Russia or North Korea thinks about this.
- 36:00Speaker 13: What I do care about is actually how much is
- 36:03Speaker 13: it really going to cost. Some estimates are saying that
- 36:06Speaker 13: his numbers are very conservative.
- 36:09Speaker 10: For the real.
- 36:09Speaker 13: Estimates maybe or times the amount that he's claiming.
- 36:13Speaker 10: So is this worth it? And actually, how long is
- 36:18Speaker 10: it going to take?
- 36:19Speaker 13: This is just going to be more government blow and
- 36:21Speaker 13: that's the thing that we should be concerned with.
- 36:23Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a definite question that the American people,
- 36:26Speaker 3: I'm sure are very interested in.
- 36:28Speaker 6: Now.
- 36:28Speaker 3: MPR is suing the government over Trump's executive order, obviously,
- 36:32Speaker 3: which was aimed at the public media. What's the claim
- 36:35Speaker 3: and does it have any merit?
- 36:39Speaker 13: Yeah, their claim is that Donald Trump is impeding on
- 36:41Speaker 13: their First Amendment, right, but he's not. The reality is
- 36:45Speaker 13: that Empire's budget is about one percent coming from the
- 36:49Speaker 13: federal government, even if it was fifteen or fifty percent.
- 36:54Speaker 13: MPR is a private organization and they're not entitled to
- 36:58Speaker 13: federal funding. And that's the biggest problem when it comes
- 37:01Speaker 13: to MPR. They believe that they're entitled to the consistent,
- 37:07Speaker 13: the status quo of receiving money from the federal government,
- 37:10Speaker 13: just like much of the federal government or much of
- 37:13Speaker 13: the apparatus that's attached to the federal government around DC especially,
- 37:18Speaker 13: So no, you're not entitled to our tax money. It's
- 37:22Speaker 13: not Trump's money, it's my money too. So if there
- 37:26Speaker 13: are questions about your conduct as a private organization, the
- 37:30Speaker 13: federal government doesn't have to fund you. And so very
- 37:33Speaker 13: clearly ninety nine percent of your budget comes from elsewhere.
- 37:36Speaker 10: Fill in the gap.
- 37:38Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
- 37:38Speaker 3: He's not stopping them from saying what they're saying. He's
- 37:42Speaker 3: just saying that the American people aren't going to pay
- 37:44Speaker 3: for it. The two totally different things. Now once at
- 37:47Speaker 3: the US university scene, and Trump has suggested that Harvard
- 37:50Speaker 3: cut its international student intake to fifteen percent. Now, he's
- 37:54Speaker 3: gone pretty hard on the Ivy League universities.
- 37:57Speaker 2: What's this latest barb what's the pose of it?
- 38:03Speaker 13: Yeah, when it comes to Harvard, they're once again upset
- 38:08Speaker 13: that the gravy train is ending when it comes to
- 38:10Speaker 13: federal funding. Even though they have over fifty billion dollars
- 38:14Speaker 13: in endowment they and they're essentially a mid tier hedge fund,
- 38:20Speaker 13: they still think that they should get as much money
- 38:22Speaker 13: as they possibly can from the federal government. And they
- 38:25Speaker 13: especially don't like it that Trump is calling into question
- 38:30Speaker 13: how many foreign students that they bring in and for
- 38:33Speaker 13: what reason?
- 38:34Speaker 10: And it's very clear. I mean it's an open secret.
- 38:36Speaker 10: You charge a.
- 38:38Speaker 13: Crazy amount for a crazy amount of money for foreign
- 38:41Speaker 13: students to come into your school. You make a lot
- 38:43Speaker 13: of money that way, so you just keep increasing the
- 38:45Speaker 13: amount of foreign students who can come through.
- 38:48Speaker 10: And so they're calling into.
- 38:49Speaker 13: Question the quality of students are coming in, the reasons
- 38:52Speaker 13: for taking in all these foreign students, And you know what,
- 38:56Speaker 13: I'm all for it. I'm all for them looking out
- 38:59Speaker 13: for because very clearly they're not very good at delegating
- 39:04Speaker 13: how many I don't know, terrorist sympathetic students who are
- 39:09Speaker 13: coming through, who aren't here for the American experience, who
- 39:13Speaker 13: are here to alter our society to some degree. And
- 39:17Speaker 13: granted that's not all of them, but they're obviously not
- 39:21Speaker 13: taking Trump's threats seriously, and so he's exercising what he
- 39:25Speaker 13: is saying.
- 39:26Speaker 3: Oh, he is absolutely exercising what he is saying. Adam Coleman,
- 39:30Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us.
- 39:31Speaker 2: Still to come.
- 39:32Speaker 3: And Megan Michael thinks her next venture will make her
- 39:34Speaker 3: a billionaire.
- 39:36Speaker 2: But she also feels guilty about being rich.
- 39:38Speaker 4: Kinsey Schofield joins me next.
- 39:40Speaker 2: To discuss that and much much more.
- 39:51Speaker 3: Welcome back, to the show, and joining me now is
- 39:53Speaker 3: celebrity and oral reporter Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey Megan Michael thinks
- 39:57Speaker 3: her latest adventure is going to make her a billionaire,
- 40:00Speaker 3: and yet she feels guilty about having money.
- 40:03Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, this is really getting.
- 40:04Speaker 15: Tysome Lemonada's ad partner is Gretchen Ruben Media, and they
- 40:10Speaker 15: generally pay between twenty five to fifty dollars per one
- 40:14Speaker 15: thousand downloads. Megan would get the high end of that
- 40:18Speaker 15: because of name recognition, but based on the analytics provided
- 40:22Speaker 15: by Fast Company magazine this week, Meghan's made approximately forty
- 40:26Speaker 15: thousand dollars for season one of Confessions of a Female Founder,
- 40:30Speaker 15: not exactly Spotify money. And if she's trying to be
- 40:33Speaker 15: a billionaire, I think she's going to have to hustle
- 40:36Speaker 15: a little bit harder in the jam and the podcasting space.
- 40:41Speaker 3: Absolutely, But why talk about feeling guilty about having money?
- 40:45Speaker 4: I mean, we all know that they have it. Why
- 40:48Speaker 4: are you talking about it?
- 40:49Speaker 3: It's really quite ghost, isn't it.
- 40:51Speaker 2: It is?
- 40:52Speaker 15: But that's not the line that I took away from it.
- 40:56Speaker 15: She talked about a scarcity mindset, and I feel like
- 41:01Speaker 15: that is such a reflection of the chaos we see
- 41:04Speaker 15: in her unleashing all of these brands, this relentless promotion.
- 41:09Speaker 15: It's the fear of not having enough money that I
- 41:13Speaker 15: really took away.
- 41:13Speaker 1: From that conversation.
- 41:16Speaker 3: Very interesting now speaking about one of those one of
- 41:19Speaker 3: those projects, and that's her lifestyle brand as Ever. Now
- 41:22Speaker 3: there's rumor she won't be restocking some of her products,
- 41:25Speaker 3: including her Jam. We have been talking about this for
- 41:28Speaker 3: so long, this can't actually be serious.
- 41:32Speaker 15: Yeah, she said that she's going to take a step
- 41:34Speaker 15: back and kind of try to reevaluate the as Ever
- 41:38Speaker 15: brand until twenty twenty six.
- 41:39Speaker 1: She told this to Fast Company magazine.
- 41:42Speaker 15: Constant reinvention breeds skepticism. One minute, she's a podcast host,
- 41:47Speaker 15: the next a lifestyle guru, then a children's book author,
- 41:50Speaker 15: now a Jam entrepreneur. Reinvention isn't inherently bad, but without
- 41:55Speaker 15: follow through or success in any one domain, it's to
- 42:00Speaker 15: look like flailing, not versatility. And this inconsistency makes it
- 42:05Speaker 15: hard for anyone to invest emotionally or financially in Megan
- 42:10Speaker 15: Markle's ventures.
- 42:11Speaker 3: And onto that investment. And that is a really important
- 42:14Speaker 3: point that you make there. Do you think that her
- 42:17Speaker 3: well in your view, I hed.
- 42:20Speaker 2: Back is getting banged for back.
- 42:21Speaker 3: Are they starting to lose patients like at some point
- 42:25Speaker 3: pick something and stick with it.
- 42:27Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm sure that there is a lot of frustration.
- 42:31Speaker 15: I think that we saw it on full display with Spotify.
- 42:34Speaker 15: They just weren't as secretive as everybody else has been,
- 42:37Speaker 15: or they haven't had as much patience as everyone else
- 42:40Speaker 15: has been. Ted Sarandos still trying to tell us that
- 42:43Speaker 15: he thinks Megan Markle has this big cultural impact that
- 42:46Speaker 15: I'm patiently waiting to see exactly what is definition of
- 42:50Speaker 15: cultural impact means. But there has to be a lot
- 42:53Speaker 15: of frustration, especially just with the constant rebranding Love and
- 42:56Speaker 15: New that their new micro or Timu Royal Court that
- 43:02Speaker 15: they've created, and eleven new members that are going to help.
- 43:04Speaker 1: Rehabilitate their image.
- 43:07Speaker 15: It has to be exhausting for the people that have
- 43:09Speaker 15: invested in them to say everything seems so aimless.
- 43:13Speaker 1: Can you just focus.
- 43:15Speaker 3: Now onto the more celeb scene rather than Royal So
- 43:18Speaker 3: Lindsay Lowan, well, she's been part of the celebrity scene
- 43:20Speaker 3: for a very long time, but some recent rumors apparently
- 43:23Speaker 3: about her changing face.
- 43:25Speaker 2: What's the speculation here.
- 43:28Speaker 15: But she's had a facelift, and you know what, Lindsay
- 43:31Speaker 15: Lohan is refusing to admit that she allegedly went under
- 43:34Speaker 15: the knife and claims her new face is thanks to
- 43:37Speaker 15: listen to me when I tell you ice cold water
- 43:40Speaker 15: splashes to the face and drinking juice every morning like carrot, ginger,
- 43:44Speaker 15: lemon and apple. Oh and she's a big pickled beats person.
- 43:50Speaker 15: She claims she's all natur l that's not a face,
- 43:53Speaker 15: it's a group project.
- 43:54Speaker 1: But god, lover, she looks amazing.
- 43:56Speaker 4: She does look amazing, and god, we wish it was
- 43:58Speaker 4: all that simple.
- 44:00Speaker 3: Now to the Australian celebrity scene and debor a Furness
- 44:03Speaker 3: Hugh Jackson, Hugh Jackman's extrange wife. Well, she has broken
- 44:06Speaker 3: her silence and what is a catalyst for this?
- 44:10Speaker 1: Okay?
- 44:10Speaker 15: So while they split in twenty twenty three, she finally
- 44:13Speaker 15: officially filed for divorce this week.
- 44:16Speaker 1: I think it's after these photos surfaced of.
- 44:18Speaker 15: Hugh Jackman moving his current girlfriend in and Devor spoke
- 44:21Speaker 15: about the traumatic journey of betrayal and a lengthy statement.
- 44:25Speaker 1: She told The Daily Mail on Tuesday that they're split is.
- 44:27Speaker 15: A profound wound that cuts deep and without naming her
- 44:31Speaker 15: famous husband or his girlfriend s like subtly confirmed this affair,
- 44:37Speaker 15: and insiders say that Hugh Jackman is extremely disappointed and blindsided.
- 44:42Speaker 15: He believed they had an understanding that they would not
- 44:45Speaker 15: publicly discuss one another. He is dodging so much negative
- 44:48Speaker 15: press right now because of his association with Ryan Reynolds
- 44:52Speaker 15: and Blake Lively. He's worried both scandals will really negatively
- 44:55Speaker 15: impact his popularity.
- 44:58Speaker 2: That's a very very interesting point, isn't it.
- 45:00Speaker 3: But now want to some happier news, I suppose, and
- 45:03Speaker 3: some recent business news for Haley Beber.
- 45:05Speaker 2: What's the latest with her beauty brand?
- 45:07Speaker 15: Yeah, she's officially joined the coveted billionaires club. She probably
- 45:11Speaker 15: Megan Markle's probably calling her up right now, but she
- 45:15Speaker 15: her Road beauty brand reportedly has signed a deal with
- 45:19Speaker 15: Elf Cosmetics that's worth about one million dollars, while her husband,
- 45:23Speaker 15: Justin Bieber reportedly grapples with financial troubles. It was Wednesday
- 45:28Speaker 15: that they announced a definitive agreement.
- 45:31Speaker 1: Haley's latest milestone.
- 45:33Speaker 15: Fallows reports that her husband is facing financial difficulties. For
- 45:37Speaker 15: months now, the pop star has allegedly been dealing with
- 45:40Speaker 15: debt linked to has canceled twenty twenty two Justice Tour,
- 45:45Speaker 15: So she's the breadwinner today.
- 45:48Speaker 3: But I also think it's a great story from an entrepreneurship.
- 45:55Speaker 2: Point of view.
- 45:55Speaker 3: And you know, we were talking about Megan Markel earlier, but
- 45:57Speaker 3: he is someone who started approaching and went on to
- 46:00Speaker 3: be successful with it. And I think that that shows
- 46:04Speaker 3: real paradox, don't you.
- 46:06Speaker 1: Three years, this has existed for three years, and she
- 46:09Speaker 1: was so savvy.
- 46:10Speaker 15: The phone case that holds the lip glass, the lip
- 46:12Speaker 15: glass that's the exact shape of hers. Yeah, I mean,
- 46:16Speaker 15: and she's utilized the influencer title to actually generate an
- 46:22Speaker 15: incredible revenue and an incredible product. I have two of
- 46:25Speaker 15: her lip glasses in my makeup bag right now. So
- 46:28Speaker 15: it is an exciting project. And she is torn apart
- 46:32Speaker 15: on the internet regularly. There are a lot of similarities
- 46:35Speaker 15: between her and Megan Markle. So Meghan might want to
- 46:38Speaker 15: pick up the phone and say, do you mind mentoring
- 46:41Speaker 15: me a little bit here?
- 46:42Speaker 3: Yeah, that might be the very good point, Absolutely an
- 46:45Speaker 3: excellent point. Now, so much in the news about brigetting
- 46:48Speaker 3: Emmanuel mccronin whatever that particular incident was, but a lip
- 46:54Speaker 3: reader has weighed in on it. So what did they
- 46:57Speaker 3: have to say about what was said during this incident?
- 47:00Speaker 1: I cannot get enough of this story.
- 47:02Speaker 15: After the incident, a lipreader claims things turn icy again
- 47:06Speaker 15: once the couple start down the stairs to the tarmac.
- 47:08Speaker 15: The president offers his arm to his wife. She ignores it,
- 47:13Speaker 15: clinging to the railing instead, and the lip reader claims as.
- 47:16Speaker 1: She passes, she appears to mutter, stay away, you lose her.
- 47:20Speaker 15: Emanuel apparently replied to her by saying, let's try please
- 47:23Speaker 15: to what she allegedly answered no, And the expert described
- 47:27Speaker 15: it as a rare, unguarded exchange that hints at deeper
- 47:31Speaker 15: tensions between the couple.
- 47:34Speaker 3: Now you've said that there's nothing that you don't love
- 47:36Speaker 3: about this story, So what I mean, Look, we all
- 47:39Speaker 3: saw it, and it was it was really quite. It
- 47:41Speaker 3: was quite bruising in a I suppose a figurative as
- 47:45Speaker 3: well as a literal sense. But we don't often get
- 47:48Speaker 3: to say these sorts of things. What were the things
- 47:51Speaker 3: that were notable that really stood out to you.
- 47:53Speaker 7: In this.
- 47:55Speaker 15: But you know Emmanuel saying we were just being playful,
- 47:58Speaker 15: I mean to me, we were just being playful.
- 48:03Speaker 1: It wasn't anything you're jumping to conclusions.
- 48:06Speaker 15: That's why I hope I'm not being insensitive when I
- 48:10Speaker 15: say I love everything about this story. But it was
- 48:12Speaker 15: just such a voyeuristic moment, and I hope they were
- 48:16Speaker 15: just being playful. But the story just seems to have
- 48:20Speaker 15: so much meat that we have yet to get to.
- 48:23Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think there's probably I think you're quite right.
- 48:26Speaker 3: I think there's probably a bit more to that. Kinsey Schofield,
- 48:29Speaker 3: thank you so much, thank you, And that's it for
- 48:33Speaker 3: me tonight up next to his Newsnight, good Night,