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May the Fifth Be With You · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to The Large Ner Drunk Collider. The podcast.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about the geeky things happening in the world
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  Speaker 1: around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ariel cast In. I just had a slight brinklich
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning of that, and with me, as always
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  Speaker 1: is my wonderful friend and co host Jonathan Stream.
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  Speaker 2: I ate cash shoes. Just before going on microphone, I
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  Speaker 2: have made a mistake.
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  Speaker 1: Oh do you need a cough?
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  Speaker 2: Not yet, but I mean it's just a matter of time.
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  Speaker 2: You know that thing where you eat. You'll eat something
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  Speaker 2: like that and you'll get like a crumb stuck in
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  Speaker 2: the back of your throat, and then suddenly it's like
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  Speaker 2: it's always at a moment when you absolutely should not cough,
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  Speaker 2: and so you try to hold it back. But this
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  Speaker 2: just makes it worse. That's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: I drank water before you hit record, and so now
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  Speaker 1: I need to burp. But that's okay. I also apparently
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  Speaker 1: have so I go somatic sympathy throat crumbs.
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  Speaker 2: Because now you want to add that. Now I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you do want to burp, just go ahead,
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  Speaker 2: because I already have to edit a show that's done
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  Speaker 2: by a friend of the show, Shay Lee. And let
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  Speaker 2: me tell you about about fifteen percent of every recording
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  Speaker 2: she sends me are burps.
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  Speaker 1: I love Shae, and I don't very much stand that.
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  Speaker 1: She don't understand that, like.
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  Speaker 2: She says, she says that she gets a little nervous
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  Speaker 2: when she's delivering on the microphone, and she drinks water
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  Speaker 2: too to keep her voice going, and the combination of
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  Speaker 2: the two means that like I'll be in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of a section, I'm like, Wow, she's really on a roll.
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  Speaker 2: This is a really good and then to be bad
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  Speaker 2: and then she's like, ah, beep, and then she'll redo it.
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  Speaker 1: I always know when a burp. This is just a
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  Speaker 1: me thing. This is no shade to shay I always
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  Speaker 1: know when a burp is coming. I would pause it
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 2: I think, uh, yeah, it's it's fun. Like we haven't
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  Speaker 2: ever worked on things like her putting the recording on pause.
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  Speaker 2: She just she just you know, keeps Yeah. The recording
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  Speaker 2: just goes the whole way like it might be. It
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  Speaker 2: might be a thirty minute episode, but a fifty minute
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  Speaker 2: long recording because when you have all the pickups and everything.
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  Speaker 2: It just it stretches into that much. And she's a
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  Speaker 2: perfectionist too, So if she has a bit where maybe
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  Speaker 2: she thinks something was a little mushmouthed, or she felt
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  Speaker 2: that the pacing was a little wrong, she will do
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  Speaker 2: another take of that segment, and she'll also go back
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  Speaker 2: even further so that she has the right tone right,
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  Speaker 2: instead of just picking up right where you messed up,
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  Speaker 2: which some people that's how they do it. I've got
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  Speaker 2: coworkers who in the middle of a word will stumble
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  Speaker 2: and they'll just pick up at the beginning of the word.
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  Speaker 2: She likes to go back so that it's tonally consistent
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  Speaker 2: for that whole section, so that it's delivering the mood
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  Speaker 2: and feeling that she wants, which is really admirable. It
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  Speaker 2: does make editing a bit more work, but then you
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  Speaker 2: could argue it's worth it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I get it too. I usually when I'm
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  Speaker 1: editing my own because I do get that way. If
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing like an audiobook audition or a voiceover audition
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  Speaker 1: or whatever for you, I just you know, if I
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  Speaker 1: end up sounding like I've done a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 1: mess ups and you're having to piece words together. I apologize,
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  Speaker 1: but I yeah, but I do. I will go back
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  Speaker 1: and I'll do multiple takes and I just leave a
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  Speaker 1: really long space so I know where I messed up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't. I don't like finding the beeps.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah, for me, like beep is just
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  Speaker 2: how I've just gotten trained. Like I can even sometimes
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  Speaker 2: tell what word Shase says based upon the shape of
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  Speaker 2: the waveform because I've gotten so used to editing. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is gonna be you know well, or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I can tell just by the shape of the waveform.
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  Speaker 1: That's really cool.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of fun. But it's all really useful when
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  Speaker 2: you're editing, because sometimes it's not just one like goof, right,
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you make a goof, and then when you're doing
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  Speaker 2: the retake, you make a goof and maybe it's in
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  Speaker 2: a different place. Being able to recognize the words just
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  Speaker 2: based on the waveform makes editing so much faster because
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  Speaker 2: you can be like, oh, I need to skip ahead
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  Speaker 2: a couple of takes. Because again, she she just goes
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  Speaker 2: all the way through. She doesn't like if a take
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  Speaker 2: doesn't work out, it's not like she goes back. In
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  Speaker 2: the actual audio file, you know it just it's part
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  Speaker 2: of the long audio file. Now, this is again not
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  Speaker 2: to cast shade on shade. This is a perfectly promulent
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  Speaker 2: way to record. She does a really good job, so
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  Speaker 2: shay when you do listen to this, this is not
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  Speaker 2: a criticism, Okay. And she's probably about five or six
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  Speaker 2: episodes behind, so it'll be like two months and she's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be like, I'm so sorry. I'm like, why are
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  Speaker 2: you apologizing? If?
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  Speaker 1: If, if it makes you feel better when you listen
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  Speaker 1: to this. When I I'll get like a twenty second
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  Speaker 1: voiceover audition, I'll be like, this will take me ten
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  Speaker 1: minutes right once I work it. You always work an
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  Speaker 1: audition before you record it. If you have the luxury
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  Speaker 1: of time to do that. Sometimes you get very fast
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  Speaker 1: turnarounds and you just have to like site read, get
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  Speaker 1: context clues and go. But it'll take me like four
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  Speaker 1: hours to record that. So I have no place to
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  Speaker 1: judge anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and for those curious about the show we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about in this case, the podcast is called Coddywomple with
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: the Shadow People, which I think we've talked about on
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  Speaker 2: the previous episodes. It's a narrative podcast set in a
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  Speaker 2: weird kind of fantasy world based upon around turn of
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  Speaker 2: the century, and I'm talking twentieth century Appalachia, and so
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  Speaker 2: really neat, very atmospheric, very very much set in time
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  Speaker 2: and place, even though that time isn't well defined. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: check it out if you're into kind of sort of
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: fairy tail ish spooky stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Also, we have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun things to talk about. So among
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  Speaker 1: the things that we have watched and listened to this week, Jonathan,
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  Speaker 1: you're giving me a look. Did I move on too quickly? No?
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  Speaker 2: I thought you were skipping what we were we had
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  Speaker 2: watched this week. That's why I was giving you a look.
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  Speaker 2: And then you brought it back around and I realized
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  Speaker 2: I was being premature with my looks.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, it's okay. Look you guys. We basically talked
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  Speaker 1: a whole conversation that could have been a whole podcast
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  Speaker 1: on its own before we hit record about other non
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  Speaker 1: like less geeky, not really geeky things, just annoying things
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  Speaker 1: that we have to spend our time on. We'll spare
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  Speaker 1: you that. But we did do some fun stuff this week.
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  Speaker 1: I started watching dragon ball Z Kai maybe Dragon Ball Z. No, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: dragon Ball Z Kai.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So had you ever watched any other version of
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  Speaker 2: Dragon Ball Z at all?
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  Speaker 1: Like I have seen small little clips of it. I
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  Speaker 1: had never watched this series before I was familiar enough
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  Speaker 1: with it. I had seen enough clips of it. I
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  Speaker 1: think Kai is like the retelling or remastering of the
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  Speaker 1: story once Goku is an adult.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, so well, I know that there are a
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  Speaker 2: few anime series that have done things where it's been
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  Speaker 2: like kind of a a retelling of stories, Like I
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  Speaker 2: know that Full Metal Alchemists did that right, like they
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  Speaker 2: had a secondary series come out that was essentially a
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  Speaker 2: retelling of the original series. But what are you thinking
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  Speaker 2: about it so far? What's your take?
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  Speaker 1: So it's actually a recut version of the SQL series
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  Speaker 1: dragon Ball Z because Dragon Ball is the original series.
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  Speaker 1: Dragon Ball Z is the sequel when Goku's an adult.
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  Speaker 1: Dragon a Kai is a recut of it, which has
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  Speaker 1: like a new song and like a new like the
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  Speaker 1: intro sequence you can tell is new because it's so
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  Speaker 1: much prettier. I am really torn one the animation styles
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  Speaker 1: all over the place, which I get is a stylistic thing,
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  Speaker 1: but sometimes it throws me. Some of the cartoon is like,
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  Speaker 1: there's one character that is very much like an ethnicity
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  Speaker 1: stereotype that I do not think is okay, gotcha, h
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  Speaker 1: And it's not like it's being as far as I've
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  Speaker 1: seen the one character, and apparently it shows up less
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  Speaker 1: and less throughout the series. It's not being played poorly,
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  Speaker 1: but it's very much like cart Like the cartoon drawing
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  Speaker 1: of this character is not what I consider okay. It's weird.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: Some of it is very funny, and I know that
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  Speaker 1: they know it's funny, like some of the some of
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  Speaker 1: the jokes they make like they know are funny, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it's just weird. But I'm kind of
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  Speaker 1: hate watching is not the right word.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because I don't hate it, like it's a morbid curiosity watch.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what in the It's just so bizarre that
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  Speaker 1: it keeps my attention. I'm also rewatching Fallout. I think
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  Speaker 1: I told you guys that because my husband and I
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  Speaker 1: watched it, and then our friend group that does the
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: group watch decided that three two one Go and everybody
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  Speaker 1: Press Start on the Amazon show at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: Worked well enough since Amazon stopped their group watch or
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  Speaker 1: the second episode in on our second watch through. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of setup they do in the show that
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  Speaker 1: you don't catch the first time around. You won't catch
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  Speaker 1: the funny comments until you've already seen it and you
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  Speaker 1: know where it's going, and then you watch back and
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  Speaker 1: that comment's very funny. Also, there are moments that are,
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  Speaker 1: like I enjoyed the first time through, the second time through,
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  Speaker 1: I'm laughing my butt off, like unexpectedly laughing my butt
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  Speaker 1: off because the delivery is so much better the second
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  Speaker 1: time through.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember when I watched the first episode, actually
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  Speaker 2: the first two episodes, that I felt that there wasn't
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  Speaker 2: quite enough humor in it to be a fallout series,
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  Speaker 2: and that that slowly improved over time. But maybe, as
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  Speaker 2: you say, part of that was my lack of perspective,
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  Speaker 2: and that if upon a second watch, I would appreciate
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  Speaker 2: it more.
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  Speaker 1: So cut out for about thirty seconds. If you haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen the show and you don't want spoilers, I'll mention
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  Speaker 1: two things to you, Jonathan, because anybody else who hasn't
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  Speaker 1: rewatched it but has watched it will enjoy this. In
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  Speaker 1: the second episode, when she goes into the shop in Philly,
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  Speaker 1: and the shopkeeper mistakes her for like a trade in,
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  Speaker 1: and she as, you know, you're in good shape. You
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  Speaker 1: got all ten fingers. That's much funnier this time around. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: And then when the scientist says you have to cut
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  Speaker 1: my head off. The first time it was disturbing. The
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  Speaker 1: second time through the melodrama in it is just hilarious
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  Speaker 1: because I know what you expect, So I'm no longer
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  Speaker 1: worrying about it.
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  Speaker 2: There's still some big questions I have about the enclave,
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  Speaker 2: which I hope will be visited in season two.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure. Anyhow, that's mainly what I've watched.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a busy, busy week, you know, working on
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of other fun stuff like auditions and shows
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  Speaker 1: and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: Sha, So it's been a pretty busy week for me too.
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  Speaker 2: I did, against my better judgment, watch only the first episode,
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  Speaker 2: but the first episode of Velma season two. Y'all know,
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  Speaker 2: I watched all of the first season and hated myself
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  Speaker 2: and the series the entire time. So I watched the
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  Speaker 2: first episode of season two. I will say I feel
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  Speaker 2: like it has eased off a little bit on the
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  Speaker 2: things that I hated about it, but not enough to
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  Speaker 2: make me want to continue with the show. Like they're
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: still making very obvious jokes, very obvious meta commentary, but
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  Speaker 2: not at the frequency that I think the first season did.
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  Speaker 2: So I use this example all the time, where it's
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  Speaker 2: a in my view as sin, a storytelling sin to
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  Speaker 2: dwell too long on a joke or to call real
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  Speaker 2: attention to a joke, because joke either works or it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't magically work if you just draw more attention
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  Speaker 2: to it. That does only nothing.
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  Speaker 1: It only does that if you're fluliborg I, just.
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  Speaker 2: Like the example I always give is in Robin Hood
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  Speaker 2: Men in Tights, where there's the joke about the reference
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  Speaker 2: to Blazing Saddles, and then after the joke is made,
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: a character says, what you've never seen blazing Saddles, Like
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: he's calling out the reference, and like, who's that for?
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  Speaker 2: Because if you know the reference, you've got the joke.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't know the reference, then telling you that
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  Speaker 2: it's a reference doesn't make it funny. It doesn't work
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  Speaker 2: in either case. Velma Season two has some jokes that
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  Speaker 2: feel like that to me, except it's all again meta commentary.
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  Speaker 2: Some of the jokes make no sense, like it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: they're like, I'm just as likely to do that as
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  Speaker 2: a blah blah blah. And you sit there and think
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  Speaker 2: about and like, blah blah blah, doesn't that doesn't even
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  Speaker 2: make sense. It doesn't apply to the situation at all.
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  Speaker 2: You're just saying it because here's something that listener or
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: viewers will recognize as a reference, but it doesn't have relevance.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, you gotta make it relevant for it
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  Speaker 2: to be a joke, otherwise what are you doing? So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I watched. I watched the one episode they're leaning more
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  Speaker 2: heavily into mystery elements and and it didn't really do
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  Speaker 2: much for me. So I don't I who knows, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna go and watch a second episode.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing I did this week that was kind
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: of geeky for kind of a subset of geeks is
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  Speaker 2: last night. First of all, it's amazing I still have
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  Speaker 2: a voice, But last night I went to a me
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  Speaker 2: first in the Gimmy Gimme's concert. So for any of
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  Speaker 2: y'all who don't know me first, and the Gimmy Gimmes
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  Speaker 2: is a supergroup. It's made up of members of other
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  Speaker 2: bands and they play covers. All they do are covers,
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  Speaker 2: and they do them in a kind of a punk
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  Speaker 2: power pop style. So things like they did a cover
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  Speaker 2: of Joe Lene by Dolly Parton. They did a cover
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  Speaker 2: of Country Roads by John Denver. They did a cover
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  Speaker 2: of Don't Cry for Me Argentina. You know, they did
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  Speaker 2: a cover of rocket Man. They did all these great covers.
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  Speaker 2: And I've been following their music for a couple of
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  Speaker 2: decades now. I've never seen him live. And the really
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  Speaker 2: fun thing is that it's not just a music show
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  Speaker 2: when you go see them perform. They put on a
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  Speaker 2: kind of theatrical performance where there's a drama that plays
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  Speaker 2: out as you're watching, because the lead singer ends up
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  Speaker 2: having a feud with other members of his band, where
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: he'll do things like turns to the bass player and like,
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  Speaker 2: could you tell the drummer to stop rushing. We're not
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  Speaker 2: talking anymore, so I need you to tell the drummer
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  Speaker 2: that he needs to stop rushing his intros and playing
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: over my introductions of these songs. I love that actually
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  Speaker 2: got to a point where it says he turns to
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  Speaker 2: the rhythm guitarist and says, could you tell the audience
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  Speaker 2: that they're not holding up there into the bargain. So
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  Speaker 2: it's like the lead singer is in a fight with
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  Speaker 2: everybody and it's all an act. It's all all done
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  Speaker 2: for fun. But like if you paid attention to what
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  Speaker 2: the different members of the band were doing in between songs,
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  Speaker 2: like everyone's doing little things, that plays into this ongoing
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  Speaker 2: feud that's going on. That's nice. And then of course
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  Speaker 2: every song he would introduce by saying, this next song
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  Speaker 2: is a cover. I mean, they're all covers. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I guess long story short is, if you get a
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  Speaker 2: chance to see Me First in the Gimmy Gimmeys Live
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  Speaker 2: and you like power pop slash punk styles and you
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  Speaker 2: love cover songs, go check them out. They are incredibly entertaining.
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  Speaker 1: I love Me First in the Gimmi Gimmis. I'm sad
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get to go. I'm delighted you did, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm delighted it was a great show, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: some artists are so produced that when you go see
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  Speaker 1: a live show, it just doesn't quite hold up to
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  Speaker 1: the studio production. And that's that's not me judging a
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: live show is a very different creature. It's like doing
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: a stage like acting on stage versus acting in film,
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  Speaker 1: and one you have to do it over and over
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  Speaker 1: till you get it perfect, and the other you have
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  Speaker 1: to do it right the first time. We're just move on,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I certainly have yet to play a one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent perfect show as a musician. But yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad to hear that they hold up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic. I have other things to say about the
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  Speaker 2: one of the other bands that appeared on that bill,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: but I'll tell you after the show, because this is
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  Speaker 2: a place for positivity.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds good. So somebody I know is like super
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: positive all the time, well not all the time, like
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: seventy five percent of the time, and that person is Mario.
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  Speaker 2: So you're teeing me up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm teeing you up again. I couldn't tell if you
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  Speaker 1: were frozen or if you're just giving me.
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  Speaker 2: A look, not giving you a look. We're going straight
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  Speaker 2: into thirty seconds or less, and this was Ariel's way
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  Speaker 2: of reminding me that I'm going first, because just before
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: we started recording, we made a last minute lineup change.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was there was a rumor about a Kingdom
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Hearts thing that. But there's not enough there, right, It's
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: all like, well, this person thinks that this lines up
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: with this and that and that and so well now
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I've spent thirty seconds on anyhow, but whatever.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: But the important thing is that we didn't want to
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: go through and present it as if it's a news
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: item when really it's just a bunch of you know, speculation.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: And maybe next week we'll have more information and it
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: will be thirty seconds or less, But today's first thirty
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: seconds or less is and I'm going to start the
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: music now. Universal Studios unveiled some new details about the
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Mario theme Land and the upcoming Epic Universe Park. They
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: include a ride based off Mario Kart, an experience called
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Yoshi's Adventure modeled after a similar ride in Japan, an
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: entire section inspired by Donkey Kong Country, including a ride
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: called mind Kart Madness, and more. The concept video looks
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: really cool, so here's hoping the real thing lives up
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to the hype.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I agree, I've only heard good stuff from the Japan thing.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Words they work, but sadly movie release dates don't always
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: so Craven the Hunter, that movie that we have all
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: been looking forward to since the release of Morvius and
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the re release of Morbus and the re re release
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: of Morbus.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: And also Madam Web.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: And Madam Web has changed dates. It was originally going
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: to come out over Labor Day weekend, and now it's
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: coming out on December thirteenth. I take umbrage with that
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: because the movie that was going to come out on
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: December thirteenth was Cobra Kai and that has been moved
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: to May of twenty twenty five. I have no issue
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: with the Cobra Kai movie, really working to make sure
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: they put out a really great story. But I I
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: like to see like a movie that's just come out
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: on my birthday, and Craven the Hunter is not one
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: of those.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've already made see two Hobbit movies on your birthday.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Didn't make you see the third, sir, No, But that's
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: like six hours of my life I'm never getting back. Okay, sorry, No,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that's fine. Have you been waiting for another go at
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: a live action adaptation of he Man and the Masters
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: of the Universe. We'll hold on to your Lloyd cloths
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: because Amazon, MGM Studios and Mattel Films are planning just
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: such a thing for the summer of twenty twenty six.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: The story reportedly revolves around young Prince Adam being stranded
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: on Earth for ten years before returning to Tournia to
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: battle the evil Skeletor. The writer of Kubo and the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Two Strings, Chris Butler, is penning the script, which is banana, y'all.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but just one, just one banana, Just one banana,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Just one banana. Have you ever asked yourself why is
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Paul Rudd not in more musical movies? Well, don't worry
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: now he is. Paul Rudd and Nick Jonas are going
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: to be in a new musical comedy called power Ballad.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: All we know is it's an uplifting, music driven story
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: about a wedding singer and a rock star that are
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: divided by a song. Interestingly, the person who is doing
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: it is John Carney, who has done a bunch of
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: other stuff, but I know him most from the movie Once,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: which I wouldn't call it comedy. That was kind of
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: a sad story, but it had brilliant music.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: So yeah. One of my favorite songs from any musical
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: is from Once, and it's called Gold And if you
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: haven't heard it, go check it out. It's so it's
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: such a dramatic moment in this well, in the stage
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: musical in particular. The movie musical is also fantastic, by
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: the way, but the stage musical that particular song has
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: like just a it's one of those moments where if
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: music means anything to you, it really is gonna hit hard. Yeah,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: sorry for thirty seconds or less, fans off there, Okay,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: here we go, Like okay. Chris Simsworth feels that maybe,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: just maybe he might have got a little too broad
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and goofy with Thor and Thor Love and Thunder. He
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: told this to Vanity Fair while he was promoting the
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: film for Furiosa, in which he appears as a dude
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: who drives a chariot pulled by motorcycles. So you know,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: he's the model of restraint today. Anyway, he said he
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: felt like the other Marvel actors got cooler stuff to say,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: a statement that RDJ later refuted. It say that Thor
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: was always the coolest. So there's a lot of like
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: envy going on among the avengers.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, we all know that the gods envy each other.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: If you're in any multi god pantheon.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: It's true. This is true.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Have you ever said, man, I love evonline, but I
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: wish they were more spreadsheets and quick books. Well, now
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: you've got another video game that you can play on
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: office software. Someone has created a Fallout inspired game and Excel.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: You can play it at work. You can do mapping,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and you can fight people characters that you encounter along
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the way. The creator, oh my gosh, what's his name?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I gotta do this fast hahu shoot Dynamic Pair has
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: a tutorial on his website about how to play it.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Links will be on our website www. Dot lodge and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: or drun colletter dot com.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: If you want to check it out, Remind me to
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: circle back to that after thirty seconds or less. Here
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: we go. Comics writer Jason Aaron is launching a news
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: series about your favorite heroes and a halfshell, the Teenage
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Mutan Ninja Turtles. The plan is for the series to
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: return to the roots of the original comic, which means
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: a series that's a bit darker and grittier than most
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: recent versions of the Four Turtles. The original TMNT served
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: as a kind of sad tire of street level superheroes
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: like Daredevil, so this definitely has my attention. The comic
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: launches this July.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Getting large holiday lawn ornaments is not just relegated to
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: the calendar holidays like the normal ones, like the pre
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: movie ones. Now it is also for May the fourth.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: You know, everybody has made the fourth deals for Star Wars,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: but now Home Depot is releasing a seven foot tall
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Darth Vader figurine with sounds and lights, and he also
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: comes with accessories like a death star pumpkin and a
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: silver ornament. Maybe also a death star for Halloween and Christmas,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: so you can keep him out all year long and
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: just dress him up for the different holidays. I kind
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: of prefer this over like the ten foot tall skeletons
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: that stay out all year round. His price points pretty
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: decent for this kind of thing too. It's three hundred bucks.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: How do you get him home? I guess if.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: You're on the website and they ship him to you.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say, if you've got a car
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: with a sun roof, I guess, but.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm sure. Also like he probably disassembles at
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the waist and plugs in. But yeah, it goes on
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: tail on May fourth on the hun Deep website, which
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: is where you can get it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if you're like me, you often will sneak
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: a peek at a film's Rotten Tomatoes score before deciding
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna take the time to venture out to
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: the cinema to catch a flick. Google has changed how
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: it displays those scores when you search film titles, so
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: instead of showing you the critics scores, which are often
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: a bit more harsh, general search results will show you
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: the audience score for that movie. So if you trust
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: audiences more than critics, good news. But if you're like me,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: then I will not see you in the theaters.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: You you trust critics more than.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Audiences, abso frekinlutely I do. Oh my gosh, there are movies.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: There are movies where I'm like looking at the critics responses,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: and remember, like a who's scoring Rotten Tomatoes doesn't mean
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: that it's the worst movie ever made. It means that
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: more critics gave it a negative review than a positive review.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: So while like a fifteen percent scorer might seem like, oh,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: this has got to be the worst movie ever, or
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: it's definitely worse than this movie that's got a forty
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: percent score, that's not necessarily true. It's probably true, but
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: not necessarily true. But I tend to side with critics.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: When the audience scores like eighty five percent and the
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: critics scores like thirty five percent, I'm usually closer to
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the thirty five than the eighty five.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Interesting, I'm usually closer to the eighty five. But we
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: know that based on the fact that I owned Dylan Dogg,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Dead of Night and Van Helsing. Anyhow, Jonathan's movie choices
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: are sometimes questionable because he likes this movie called Mandy
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: that directed He's Gonna Kill Me by Panna's cosmic post
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: about this, who is now doing an eighties vampire movie
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: starring Kristen Steer and Oscar Isaac, who play a married
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: couple who ventured down out of their penthouse and then
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: get sucked into a world of like drugs and intrigue
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and sexiness. It's such an interesting cast for an interesting
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: director for you know, I guess what is the renaissance
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: of vampire movies? Not that they've ever gone away, but
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: we've gotten a lot of them in the past couple
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: of years.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that Christen Stewart, she's really going someplace. I'm glad
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: she's branching out to doing vampire movies. Now. I love Mandy.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I love the Barry Manilo song Mandy. I love the
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: film Mandy. I love our friend Mandy.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I love our friend Mandy, and I like the Barry
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Manilo song too. I've actually never seen the movie, understandably.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love our friend, who's Renaissance Festival character was
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: called Mandy. No so Mandy. Yeah, very weird movie, visually
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: stunning film. So it I mean it really looks like
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: kind of like eighties metal album covers, and like I said,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: heavy metal album covers, there's a lot of imagery that
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: kind of falls into that. I think Mandy is a
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: truly Bonker's amazing horror slash thriller film, and it is
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: filled with magical realism and very strange and I think
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: it's great. So I'm definitely looking forward to seeing an
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: eighties vampire movie from the same director. It's got my attention.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: If it's not so Mandy's super gory.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Right, there's definitely gore in it. I mean it's I
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: wouldn't call it super gory, but then you also, we
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: were just talking about Fallout.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I didn't think Fallout was super gory. But
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I saw the trailer for Mandy when I watched Nick
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Cage's Color Out of Space, and that looked like it
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: would be too much for me.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: There's definitely violence in Mandy, a lot of it, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I mean there's a chainsaw fight in Mandy. It's amazing.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I if you're not into violence, I wouldn't. I don't know.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I don't go super I don't think it's super gory.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: But then I also watch a lot of stuff that
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: does have a lot of gore in it, Like I
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: watch a lot of zombie movies, and those have lots
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: of gore in them.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: It is interesting.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I think it depends on the story and the application,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: you know. Like I said, Fallout has some very gory
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: more moments, but overall it didn't feel like every moment
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: was gory to me.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Dirty yes, well, and and I don't know that it
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: would be your cup of tea like the Mandy. It's
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: it's a really interesting movie. It's not like it I
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: wouldn't call it an actor's film. It's not like it's
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: not like you're gonna get anything from it from like
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: necessarily an actors standpoint, but from cinematography, director kind of
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: choices that sort of stuf. I think it's fascinating and
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: the performances are good, but a lot of the performances
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: are really more free of dialogue, so it's more like
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: how characters hold themselves and the look on their face
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: and that sort of stuff. Nick Cage does have a
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: total freak out moment, which is understandable if you know
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: what the movie's about. But there's a total freak out
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: moment in a bathroom where he really goes full Nick Cage.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. I really like that movie.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I've only seen it all the way through once because
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: it's also the kind of movie where you can really
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: appreciate it and not necessarily revisit it. Not to say
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: that I will never go back and watch it again.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I probably will, but it's not something that like I
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: get an itch and think, oh, I need to watch
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Mandy again.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I felt that way about the first
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Cloverfield movie. I have seen it more than once because
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: we showed it to other people, but it was one
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: of those ones where like, this is really good, but
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: it also very much affected me, and I was like,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I don't need to be affected that way again.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I but if we're talking about Cloverfield movies, I
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: don't know that I'll ever need to watch clover I
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: like Cloverfield, but I don't know if I ever want
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: to watch it again. Tied Cloverfield Lane totally different story.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: That's yeah, brilliant.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I'll watch it. I've watched it multiple times. I will
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: continue to watch it.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: John Goodwan so so scary in that movie.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's kind of more of a psychological thriller.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, for almost no spoilers, but for almost the entire movie,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: it's more of a psychological thriller.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I haven't seen the final Cloverfield piece in
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the trilogy, but I did like the first two. We've
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: gone way off topic. So what did you want to
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: say about Fallout? Oh?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: So, so, Really it was actually more about Excel because
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I was curious based upon what I know about you Ariel,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: and I feel like I know you fairly well since
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: our friendship does stretch back two decades. But but I
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I'm curious, have you ever played any kind of computer
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: game where you either were tempted to make like a
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: spreadsheet in order to help maximize your your game you know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: performance or whatever, or it was a game that people
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: had done that, and you use some of that to
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: help you because I have.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I have certainly written down on like a piece of
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: paper or on a notepad, thing like do this, and
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: do this, and do this. If it's like a puzzle game,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: keep failing. Yeah, I think that's about as close as
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I've gotten, unless you consider like building this podcast a game,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: in which case, all the.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Time, yeah, I was thinking about games like Stardu Valley
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: or Animal Crossing or something like something like that that
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: you've got like choices to make about what crops am
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I going to grow? And you are trying to mend
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: max like how much am I spending versus how much
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: do I make by selling the thing that I cultivate?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Like stardew value was that for me? In Thank goodness
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: the wiki now is so well built out because it's
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: much easier to reference that and just see like a
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: breakdown of what all the different items are at all
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: the different levels of quality, and then you can make
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: your decision about what you want to pursue. Because it's
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: the worst feeling to be like am I am I
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: leaving money on the table because I've chosen to grow melons,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: which take twelve days to mature, as opposed to par steps,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: which take four days to mature. Don't at me, y'all.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I know that par steps you grow in spring, and
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: melons you grow in summer. I know already. You don't
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: need to tell that's just a hypothetical.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I gave no, absolutely not. I do legit sticks as
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: part of my day job. I'm good at it, but
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I don't find Let me phrase this in a good
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: way in case anybody who I work with listens, I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: enjoyed doing logistics for the purpose of making somebody's elf
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: else's life better and easier, and that is one hundred
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: percent the truth. But in my games, I am not
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a rules girly. I am not a logistics girly. If
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I have to get into that, I lose interest in
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: the game very quickly. Even in like LARPing and tabletop
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: While I did enjoy like three point five D and D,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I didn't enjoy all the math behind it.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I don't like. I guess the closest that I've gotten
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to is like building a larp character, where I keep
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: track of all the amounts of my point expenditures for
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: my starting build to make sure that I have enough,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: But you're.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: A You're not a men max kind of player.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not a min max kind of player. And if
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I am, it's got to be organic. Like I mean,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I've played characters where I'm like, I'm going to go
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: all the way down this skill tree again, LARPing and stuff.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I'm not a min maxer most of
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, same here. Like I remember when I was younger,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I was more of that men max mentality because I
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: looked at games as something you were to win, right,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: but especially with role playing games. The more I got
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: into it, the more I realized that I found more
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: enjoyment in the storytelling aspect rather than the the you know,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: you rolla die and you succeed aspect. And I don't
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: want to yuck anyone's yum. If you are more of
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the men max kind of player, there's a place for that.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: There's no there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, it
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: is a challenge to make sure you're in a group
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: where your playstyle is compatible and you're not going to
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: have any rough points. But there's nothing wrong with men maxing.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: And in fact, you can mix men max players with
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: people who are more role play focus players. There's nothing
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: wrong with that either. It does take a really good
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: game master to incorporate all of that properly. But yeah,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I have gotten to the point now where I'm much
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: more in favor of the storytelling aspects rather than my
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: character has eighteen zero zero strengths so I can swing
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: the sword real hard.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you, even like in Calamity, where
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I did get all the way down, like my character's
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: main build was like shooting, and then you had like
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: your build, and then you had your stat behind it
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: s stamina, and then our dexterity rather and then like
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: charisma and charming. I started off the game as a
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: character who had a high build in one of those
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: changed their life and was starting over in a completely
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: different build tree. So I had all the history but
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: none of the skills and none of the points in it.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: And then I spread all of my skills out like
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: way further then I could get into the rules. But
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna spare you all way further than was suggested.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: So by the end of the game, my like my
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: overall build, I didn't hit as high as caps as
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: other people because I had spread it out at the
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: beginning to reflect someone who was having to live on
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: their own and had to get like basic survival skills
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and basic fighting skills and basic shooting skills and basic
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: charl and like kind of had to just all these
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: little things you'd pick up if you're having to survive
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: on your own and having to fill all these gaps
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: by yourself. And it also meant like there was a
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: perk system, and I just I got very few perks
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: because I did. I never looked at it to go, oh,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I need to get this and this and this to
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: get this. I just kind of played organically. I did
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: get pretty high in some stuff because I didn't miss
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I think any I didn't miss most of the games.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I was gonna say something else about this,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: and I don't remember at all.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: That's fair. That's fair. I honestly I like your approach, though,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: because I think that makes total sense for the character
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: you were building, Like creating a survivalist by definition, you
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: need to have a base level of understanding and proficiency,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: or else you don't survive, as opposed to someone who
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: perhaps is part of a community where those kinds of
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: things can be specialized in so that you can go
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: deeper but you don't need to know how to do
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: everything because you know build down the street does that
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: for you. That kind of stuff makes total sense. So
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I think, like for people who are dedicated role playing,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: that kind of approach is it's really logical and it
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: fits well with the character. And yeah, it might mean
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: that you don't get that magical ability to snipe from
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: an invisible vantage point and take out six people in
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: who are happen to be standing in a row in
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: front of you, but your character makes sense. The interactions
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you have are meaningful, and you're telling You're telling a
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: story that holds up as opposed to know some Mary
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Sue character who's just really good at the thing that
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: you know they focused on.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Which means I'm bad at like collaborative card deck building games.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not as great at or strategy games because I
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: don't do that spreadsheet logistics stuff as much. Sure, although
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I am even worse than a mind Maxers a player,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: not to say min maxers are bad, but I have
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: been berated by important people in the gaming industry for
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: my game style play, which is attack at the beginning
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: when everybody's weak. So even though you know you're not
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: going to get strong. Everybody else is brought down to
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: your level, Like I'm the person in Settlers of Katan
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: who moves the thief to the most prosperous place in
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the first round. And yes, Stephen, step step twe did
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: shame me for that on a Joco cruise when he
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: was still alive. So I've tried to be a little
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: bit nicer in my starting gameplay. But that's like just
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: hit out the gate. I know it's bad. I'm better
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: to play with now, people I promise.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, don't ever play. I can run games and
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I can play role playing games, so this doesn't apply
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: for those. But if for any competitive game, don't play me,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: don't invite me to your game, don't include Ariel can
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: speak from experience. She's seen it happen. I often will
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: adopt the philosophy of I don't have to win, I
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: just have to make sure you lose. And it is unpleasant,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: and I acknowledge that, and I also wish I would change,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: but despite all efforts, it hasn't happened in forty eight
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: years of my life. And yeah, I have a niece
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: who appears to have inherited the same kind of competitive
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: nature and petty nature that I have.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Do you enjoy it when you're doing it?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Though? That's it's a weird question for me to contemplate
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: because at the time, it just feels like it's the
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: only thing I can do, gotcha. I mean, like, I've
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: also been put into some situations, some crappy situations where
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I was putting at a distinct disadvantage while being introduced
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: to a game, and it soured me on the game. Right,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: it's not necessarily the game's fault, but like there are
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: certainly there's was an Apples to Apples session. I don't
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: know if you were there, Aeriel, but I remember getting
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: so angry because I felt I had played the absolute
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: perfect card. Yeah.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I think I was there and somebody else picked something
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: that was completely more random because it tickled their funny bone.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, And I was like, screw this game. It doesn't
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: make sense. I'm not I can't necessarily read everybody's mind
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: to know what little absurd thing is going to delight them.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: That's not a fun game for me.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I'm out of here, so I'll never invite you to
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: any of those kind of games. I Yeah, maybe this
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: is why we're such good friends. It's because we're both
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: super like competitive.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's possible, like I but again, like recognizing
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: that in myself means that, like I love cooperative games
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: because then we're all working together to create, you know,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: achieve some sort of goal and I and it doesn't
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: engage that part of my brain that gets real vindictive
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: and evil unless it's like Betrayal at the House in
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: the Hill or a game like that where there it's
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: cooperative up to a point and then it becomes competitive.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Then it can be it can be touch and go.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: So but yeah, like it's that's why I just was
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: curious because when I heard about a game that's being
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: played within an excel sheet, I was thinking, you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: there have been games in the past I've played where
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I was tempted to create an Excel sheet. The other
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: examples are ones where they're collectibles and you need to
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: keep track of which collectibles you've come across in which
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: ones you still need, And Assassin's Creed is like the
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: worst about this. But you know, if you don't keep track,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: then at the end of the game, it'll be like, oh,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: you're missing three of these things, but you don't know
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: which three or where they might be, and then you're like, well,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: does that mean you have to go through like a
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: guide and check every single location of these two hundred
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: feathers or whatever to find the three that I'm missing. Like,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: it just drives me nuts.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I have to apologize, Jathan. I just burped and I
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: thought I had muted my mic, but apparently it didn't.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I'll catch it in the edit. It's fine the listeners.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: The listeners won't even hear it.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if it was loud enough. But
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm eating my I'm eating some crow right now.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Well that's what's.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know this game. It's gamy, yeah, exactly, game
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: not intentional.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: But we have news items, right, we do.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: And we've talked for a very long time already.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: It's funny because we looked at the lineup, and as
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: always we look at the lineup and say, well, this
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: is going to be a short episode, but because it's us,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: we're long winded.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the first thing we're going to talk about
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: is something I don't know that's falling into like the
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Velma category of maybe doesn't look as bad as the
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: first one, which is the Mapasa the Lion King prequel,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: wait called Colin the Lion King.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Ariel, You're saying The Lion King was bad. I thought
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: that cartoon was great.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Why that the cartoon was? The cartoon was fabulous, amazing music.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: It fell into the era of cartoon movies where Disney
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: was still doing like just brilliant soundtracks. No, the live
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: action Lion King.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: The quote unquote Live Action Lion King, the CGI Lion.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: The CGI re release of Lion King that happened in
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the last ten years. Yeah, is having a prequel Mufasa
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the Lion King, about Mufasa being born into nothing and
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: kind of becoming the king. Now kind of he becomes
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the king.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is interesting that it's that it's a story
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: about a lion who came from like humble beginnings who
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: then rises to become king. Because I had always worked
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: in a yeah, well yes, but also I worked under
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: the assumption, or I was under the assumption that Mufasa
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: was like the latest in a line of kings, because
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: otherwise it starts raising questions about why is Simba being
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: looked at as the next king if we just have
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: an example of someone establishing himself as king and it's
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: not through a hereditary line, Why does scar have to
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: appear to to you know, like, well, kill from Mufasa.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Obviously he has to kill Mufasa in order to become king,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: but why does he have to scare Simba off?
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: So maybe I misunderstood the teaser trailer, and maybe Mufasa
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: just thinks that he nothing, but he is.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Rafiki says essentially that he came from nothing, like Rafiki's
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: opening narration in the in the teaser, like he says
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: what you were saying?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But Disney has been reimagining a lot
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: of character's history. You know this for a while.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Now, that's true Maleficent, uh and uh, Cruella and yeah,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: all the villains.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: But MUFAs is not a villain.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Well you live long enough, and he just didn't give
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: the chance.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, but to be fair, to be fair,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: if he came from nothing and put into a system
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: of like you're born into power as opposed to elected
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: into power, then maybe he really was a villain.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess, which I hate.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: To say because I love I love lying king and
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: a good guy.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I guess I guess I'm being super harsh. I thought
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: this trailer looked fine. I am still not a fan
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: of the CGI approach. I would much prefer a hand
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: animated version of the story to CGI animation.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I also am not a fan of the CGI animation.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: And this is kind of something that I heard other
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: people say as well, is like, if you're going for
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: photo realism, you don't get the expressions that bring across
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the emotion that you were getting from these animals, because
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: animals don't express a mote the same way that people do.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: This trailer looked like they inched a little bit more
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: into cartoony expressions to get some more emotion across, so
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: it played a little bit better. But it's just a teaser,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: so we'll see.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that I'll go. I never saw
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: the CGI Lion King. I just didn't feel the need to.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: And when I heard some of the interpretations of some
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: of the songs that I also loved from the animated one,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: that kind of reinforced my decision to see it because
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't like the new arrangements that much. I don't
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: mean to be the grouchy old guy who's like it
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: was better the way they did it before. I don't
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: necessarily believe that. I just prefer the original versions of
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: those songs to the ones that were rearranged and remade
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: for the CGI remake. So I know that people are
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: also always on Disney about going back to the well
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: over and over again in order to do their next projects,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: where whether it's a remake or it's like a prequel
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: or a sequel, and that this is a big like
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: they're talking about, like create a bankruptcy with the company.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: In fact, the director of the film had to deal
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: with people saying like, you're part of a soulless machine
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: that's just generating content, and he said The Lion King
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: is a phenomenal story that introduced kids to like Shakespeare
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: for the first time because it's essentially a retelling of Hamlet,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: and that like, how can you call that soul liess?
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: So it was an interesting debate. And but on the
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: flip side, if you do make that argument about like
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: why don't you do more original stuff, then you see
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: some of their attempts at original or semi original ideas
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: that have fallen flat in recent years, which I would
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: argue don't have that much to do with the fact
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: that it wasn't a recognizable I P but more that
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: it just wasn't a very good story, but like.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Super well, what's that? But in conto did super well?
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I think the what was the one with the
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: red panda? Was it turning Red?
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Is red turning Red?
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah? That I thought was great. I thought it was
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: a fantastic original idea.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: But then there are also they're incorporating the characters from
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: that into the Disney theme parks.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But then there's the other one. What was
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: that Strange Worlds that ended up flopping something.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Like that, something like that, or Strange New Worlds.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Or well one of those is a Star Trek.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Series, Strange Strange World, Strange.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: World, Strange World. Okay, I still haven't seen that, and
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I've heard is great, but like a lot of people,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I just never went to see it. So yeah, does
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: He's kind of in a tricky situation like do you
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: do you lean on your established ip and risk the
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: fans saying you don't have any new ideas, or do
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: you go with new ideas? But no one goes to
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: see it? And maybe that was a marketing issue. I
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: would argue it was because I don't remember seeing any
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: marketing stuff for it until I saw a movie poster
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: at a theater and was like, what's this? And then
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: you told me we had covered in the middle and
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: see and I was like, I have no memory of that.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of things are coming out without great
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: marketing and kind of failing, Like Lockwood and Co. Came
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: out with little marketing and then kind of didn't succeed.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: There are rumors at dead Boy Detectives isn't doing super well.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: There's rumors from What's on Netflix, which is one outlet,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: saying that they didn't perform well enough to get a
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: second season. But some other places are like they were
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: in the top, like top ten for three weeks. That's great.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Us. I do need to see that series though, now
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: that you've mentioned it, I need to watch it.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want Dead Boy Detectives to be a thing,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: or you're interested in watching it and maybe geting second season,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: you should do that sooner rather than later because those
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: metrics count. It came out recently. It kind of came
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: out like we saw the trailers and then it just
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: kind of came out without any applause, and so I
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: even missed. I forgot that it came out basically, but
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: you know that means that Netflix is also like riding
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: the line between how much original do we do and
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: how much redos do we do? And that brings us
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: to like our next story, which is they are apparently
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: doing a Scooby Doo live action series.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, of course we got some films, some live
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: action Scooby do films. Did you ever watch those?
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I've seen bits and pieces.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, same here. The bits and pieces I saw looked
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: like they were very kind of clever, Like it made
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: me think of not quite as over the top and
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: campy as the Brady Bunch movie, but kind of in
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: that same vein of we're going to acknowledge the silly
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: parts of this show and this series, and we're going
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: to not deny it. We're going to lean into that
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: a little bit without going too over the top. Like
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: there were obviously some jokes about perhaps Velma's preferences, but
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: nothing that was, you know, over the top and objectionable.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I think so interesting to see this. I'm wondering how
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: this is going to come across. The folks who are
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: behind it. We talked about them recently. It's the people
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: behind Cowboy Bebop.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: So behind Dead Boy Detectives. Yeah, so I guess maybe
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: it's not doing so bad. And also the Chilling Adventures
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: of Sabrina, which I watched and it frustrated me and
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: was too dark for me, but a lot of people
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: really loved it.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. A friend of the show, Shaye Lee, was also
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: frustrated by it, So you are not alone.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Probably for different reasons, I'm gonna say, but.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: You're just saying that because our friend Shay is a witch.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I mean maybe some of the same reasons. There was
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of it that came across very campy. I'm
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: not a witch, but I was about to quote Princes.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I was so ready. I was so ready. You never
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: had it so good. Yeah. So yeah. The fact that
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: there's going to be another live action it's interesting because
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: of course we also still have the Velma series going
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: on over at Max, so clearly there's still interest in
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: the Scooby Doo property. I am hopeful that whatever the
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: live action series ends up being, it ends up being
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: less mean spirited than Velma is.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I hope so too.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mind it being campy and fun and
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: perhaps a little like tongue in cheek and wink wink
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: at the audience. Just don't make it mean. Yeah.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but some things are definitely looking up, like the
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: seat trailer for season two of My Adventures, So Superman
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: just looks delightful.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean it's fun to see Superman acting
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: like a hero.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, especially where like that article came out about
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Zack Snyder who was like, well, he was gonna do
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: all this bad stuff and then die and then come
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: back and then be a good guy at the end.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: But it was going to be like all dark, dark, dark,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: dark dark until then. So yeah, it's really it's really
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: nice to see Superman.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember Ariel said that that article to me
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: with like an oob or whatever, and I still haven't
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: read it, but I remember looking at the headline and thinking,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: there's like an eighty percent chance, at least maybe ninety
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: percent chance that I'm going to read this and just go, well,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: thank goodness that didn't happen, because what you did, Zack Snyder,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: already did so much damage to the idea of Superman.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: So you have you have essentially confirmed my suspicions.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: And I say that as someone who've said it before.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I liked Man of Steel as a movie. I thought
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: it was a good and entertaining movie. It wasn't a
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: great Superman origin story, but this trailer for My Adventures
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: of Superman, which is an animated series, looks delightful. Yeah,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: like if Invincible was uplifting instead of horribly depressing.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, which I think that's I think it's
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: fine for Invincible to be what it is and for
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: this to be what it is, Like both things have
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: a place in entertainment. But yeah, I agree, I don't
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know that maybe My Adventures with Superman might
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: have been another one of those things that I did
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: know about and then just subsequently totally for good existed.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Because when I saw this trailer, at first, I was like, oh,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: this is a season two, this thing's already been going
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: for a while. And then I watched it and I thought,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: I think I might need to dedicate some time to
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: catching up and watching this because it looks like the
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: sort of thing that I would find really entertaining.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, so I think I'm trying to remember who the
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: acting who the voice of Superman is in this. Yeah,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Jack Quaid is Superman.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Oh so I know boys.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and from lower Decks and a bunch of other stuff.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: This did come across my radar. But so there are
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of like DC animated things that come out
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: all the time across various platforms, and there have been
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: maybe less across various platforms now, But so it really
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: takes something to like hit me as this is worth
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: talking about, yeah, as opposed to oh, yeah, we're just
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: getting another Superman show, and I wish we had. I
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: wish I had looked more into it, because yeah, I
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: watched the trailer for season two and I'm like, I
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: want to watch this. I want something that is fun
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: and entertaining and has good story and I feel good
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: at the end of it. This is why I end up.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I started watching Drink and Falls because there's a lot
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: of stuff out there that just is Like, there are
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: many shows that I want to watch, but some of
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: them I really need brain power for, or I need
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: like emotional bandwidth to watch because I'm just stressed or
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: tired or whatever, and I lean on things that are
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: funny or happy. This is why I have, like, I'll
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: probably keep Paramount Plus even after I'm done with like
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: all the Star Trek stuff, because I watch after midnight
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: when there's nothing else to watch because it makes me laugh. Yeah, yeah, so, yeah,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: this looks really good.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm one hundred percent on the same page as you. Like,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: same reasoning too. Even when I know something is really
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: highly regarded, if it is so dark or just filled
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: with unlikable characters, even if it's very well done, it
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: can be a big hurdle for me to get over
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: and give time to it, because, like you, I'm like,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: the real world is so stressful, the day to day
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: news and stuff, like, if you're keeping informed with things,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: you might be stressed out. And I just need not
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: like meaningless popcorn and entertainment, but uplifting entertainment. I need hope.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: I was talking to a friend of mine the other
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: day where hope is a really important thing for me
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: in my entertainment, which is why I can't watch stuff
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: like Walking Dead, right because I feel like there's no
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: hope in those shows. It's all just how do we
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: survive another day? But there's no hope associated with it.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: It's just a and an attempt to avoid death. And
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: that's not enough for me. I need I need hope.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: That's also why I couldn't watch Game of Thrones.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I don't like Children of Men. Is
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: because that movie has no hope whatever.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: No, it has a hopeful ending. That ending is hopeful.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: It does know it does.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Those people that are coming after the main characters at
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: the end are going to kill them.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: They're not going to catch them.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: It leaves it up to interpretation.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: They're not going to catch them, and I choose to
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: interpret that they get away.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not the only person who finds that movie hopeless,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: so it's very divisive. I didn't enjoy it, but that's okay.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: If you did, that's great. My Adventures with Superman I'm
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: sure will not be the same experience.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think we're just if My Adventures of
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Superman Season two ends like and you're like, this is
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: just like Children of Men, something is gone terribly wrong.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: I also suspect i'll leave. I am going to see
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: this next movie that you put into our lineup, The
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Glass Worker.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I suspect that will also make me feel more good
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: than sad.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's an animated film. It's an anime film,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: and it looks really pretty and it uh, you know,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: it's the trailer that we got just looks nice. Uh,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: there's clearly like an epic storyline going on, or that
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: the story we're watching is set against an epic wartime
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: story but in this somewhat fantastical world, and they don't
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: go overboard with the fantasy elements either. It's it's like
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: there is that part in it, but it isn't like
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: everything is magical and surrounded with fairies all the time.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: I really liked it. I thought it was a kind
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: of wistful.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's got like the story pace as like
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: a very Miyazaki feel, but it's not. It's by Mano
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Animation Studios, which is Pakistan's first studio specializing in hand
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: drawn animation. It's coming out in Pakistan in July. I'm
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: hoping that it's also coming out here. Yeah, they haven't
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: looked into it that far yet.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: The trailer is really impressive. I mean, if that's like
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: a first effort type thing, that's amazing.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's beautiful. It gives me like vaguely like
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Anastasia vibes too.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was getting like, howel's moving castle like you said, Mayazaki. Yeah,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: it was giving me that kind of feel.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, definitely planning on seeing it. If I'm able
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: to see it, you should definitely check out the trailer.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: You can YouTube, google it, or it'll be on our website. No,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask if you've watched any of Cobra.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Kaya define any?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Do you mean, like more than just a trailer.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: I've watched more than just a trailer. I have not
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: seen an episode all the way through, but I've seen clips.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Just give up or.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: No, I've just seen compilations of stuff, and all the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: compilations I saw looked fine. But I think part of
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: the problem is that compilations show you interesting moments, but
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: they're completely out of context. So I didn't really get
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: attached to any of the characters I was watching. There
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: was a point where I would be like, I'd look
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: up at character just to be like, what is this
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: person's deal? Why are they such a jerk? Like that
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff, Like, I just don't know. I haven't
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: watched the I could watch the show and answer these questions,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: but that's too much work. Let me go to a wiki.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a good show. I think
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: you should give New Girl a shot. First is very good.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: I'm I think you would really enjoy New Girl once
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: you got past like the first couple of episodes, because
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: you know, everything takes a little bit to get on
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: their role in their.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Ariel's miss in twenty twenty four is to get me
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: to watch New Girl.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: You just need to give it a shot. Maybe I will.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I will get some episodes that you need to watch,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: but they won't be as funny out of context. But
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Cobra Kai is one of those shows that I love watching,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: and yet I'm constantly infuriated at the adults being so
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: dumb and petty. Not all of the adults, just the
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: main adults. They're like, their spouses are fine. Well, I mean,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: and then like the kids be Oh, I get so frustrated.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean like Johnny obviously, Like that's like the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: whole concept, at least of the first season, is that
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: it's largely his journey and how messed up he was,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: as you know, essentially a bully who was encouraged to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: be a bully by an authority figure, right, Like he
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: already appeared to be somewhat of a bully, and then
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: you learn more about it, Like again I know this
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: from just osmosis, but you know, you learn more about
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: his background and like the things that kind of shaped
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: him into the person he is and and how that's
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: affecting his journey into the person he's going to be.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: And that was like, that was like the value proposition
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: of that first season, and then obviously the introduction of
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: the kids. They become more and more important to the
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: story as it goes on, so that they become the focus,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: not him.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: But I I just I just think that there's some
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: emotional intelligence lacking obviously between Danny and Johnny. Yes, right,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Like Danny's a good guy, but he's not a great guy. Yes, yeah,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: also kind of a butt.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: I kind of like that though. I kind of like that,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Like that's a that's a risky decision to make, right
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: that you take the character who, in a previous installment
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: within this narrative world, is portrayed as mostly the the
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: good guy protagonist who is truly wronged by the antagonists,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: and that while he might have his own foibles or whatever,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: he's genuinely a good person. For a subsequent series to say,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: let's take that character and say, maybe he's made some
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: bad choices too, maybe there are certain character traits that
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: he's developed as he's gotten older that are not so positive.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: Like that's a risky decision to make. But from what
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: I understand, the show handles it pretty well.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I think so. I mean mainly I get irritated because
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you two are adults, and you should try
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: some problem solving first. Yeah, but there's a lot of
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: bad blood. There's a lot of like, you know, history
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: between them. But you know, there's a running joke on
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: how I Met your Mother with Barney Stinson, who is
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: a very problematic character, but he part of that. Part
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: of the joke is he thinks that Johnny is the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: good guy in the Karate Kid movies and that Danny
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: as being kind of a bully and a jerk. I
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: agree that Danny's a little bit of a jerky kid, yeah,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: even though Johnny was definitely a bully and physically aggressive,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: which I feel is worse.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but on a safety The whole reason we're bringing
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: this up, because we still we buried the lead as
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: far as you can possibly bury it, is that we
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: know that the final season is going to be delivered
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: in three sections.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe Club released it, and also it's on YouTube's it's
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: like a fifty second trailer but it shows a lot
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: of stuff. But yeah, we're getting the series in three
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: parts in the first five episodes come out in July,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: which is not surprising because yeah, like last month they
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: were still looking for people.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's actually crazy turnaround for post production to
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: get it out by July.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe in March, but still, like I mean it
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: probably they probably had like some and bag already, so
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: like because of the strike, they might I don't know this,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: This is just me postulating because of the strike, maybe
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: they got the beginning done and then so those things
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: have gone through more post production so they can be
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: released in July, whereas like the later part of the
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: stories will still need work and we'll be released later.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Right right, yeah, now that makes sense. Yeah, I'm glad
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: that they're going to be able to wrap up the
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: series and that it's not going to be one of
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: those things where they're clearly planning on continuing the story
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: but then they get canceled and can't do it. Like,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: it's good to know where the finale is, right, that
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: this is going. This is leading up to a satisfying
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: conclusion one way or the other. Maybe not everyone will
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: have their story wrapped up in a neat little bow,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: but we can be reasonably certain it's the story the
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: showrunners wanted to tell.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's I think it's coming to
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: a place where it's good to end it. I think
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: otherwise you're going to start rehashing stuff and you won't
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: have enough character growth. We have like three more stories.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: I know we're running along today, you guys, we're just
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: now like hitting an hour oh a little past. Uh.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: But we're getting a docu series on Peacock about black
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: cowboys inspired by the movie Nope. And I'm pretty excited
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'm curious how many aliens are gonna be
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: in this docu series about black cowboys.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a docu series, so only if aliens
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: were really in the Wild West.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Gosh. Uh No. That's really cool though, Like to be
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: able to tell a story that I think we can
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: clearly say has been extremely underrepresented in any traditional history books,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: at least in that I have encountered, that's exciting. Like,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: obviously there have been attempts to tell stories that were
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: involving more than just white dudes in the Old West,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: but it's a relatively recent effort to do that. And
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: because like I think back to the the movies I
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: watched when I was younger, and a lot of the
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: ones that sat in the Old West, they pretended like
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: white people were the only people who existed, and of
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: course that wasn't true. But yeah, you know, being able
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: to have like an actual docu series that covers these
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: these stories that maybe otherwise you never would have heard
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: about that is exciting.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And like you know, it was kind of
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: poked fun at in like Blazing Saddles and then Michael
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Ji White just recently came out with a Western.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it was like a Rudy Ray
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: Moore movie. It Black Johnny Black Oh Out while Johnny
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Black Black Dynamite was the other one that also, Yeah,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: very very much in the the kind of blaxploitation mode
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: of entertainment.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: And there have been like a couple other shows that
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: have focused on that recently. But you're right, it is
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: definitely more of a modern thing. And I've noticed, like
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: on social media, and I'm obviously not the expert to
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: talk about this, but I've seen creators of color talk
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: about the fact that, like talk about how underrepresented black
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: people are in the cowboy culture because there have been
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of people in that culture of color and
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: they just get overlooked. So again, I'm not the expert
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: to speak on that, but it is a really interesting
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: thing to hear others that are talk about and which
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: is why I'm so excited about the Stocky series.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Uh, I'll be really interested to check it out.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: It's I Jordan Peel has kind of a mixed record
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: for me now at this point, where I feel like
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: some of the stuff he's put out has been among
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: the most compelling storytelling I've ever seen, and then others,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: like The Twilight Zone less So, so here's hoping this
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: falls in the first camp and not the second one.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: But again, I think he does take storytelling very seriously,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: so I'm sure the stories will be captivating.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I liked some of the Twilight Zone. Some
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: of it fell that flat for me, but that's like
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: the old Twilight Zone did that too, so.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: That's also true. Yeah. I mean, there are old episodes
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: of the original Twilight Zone that are just straight up westerns,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: which is wild to say, but there are if you
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: watch that first season of twilight Zone. Anyway. Next up,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: We've got We don't normally cover commercials unless it's the
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: superb Owl, but there was this one little ad I
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: saw that I felt like I had to throw into
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: our lineup where it's it's for Apple and iPhones and uh.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: And the ad follows a person dressed up in full
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Boba fette bounty hunter armor using an app to locate
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: his buddies at a Star Wars convention, and and I
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: thought it was cute, And I just I put it
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: in here because I was like, this might be the
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: most little entertaining a few minutes of Star Wars I've
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: seen in a while, because I haven't watched a lot.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: I just got so burnt out on Star Wars content
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: that I don't typically watch it anymore. But this was cute.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: And I also thought it was funny they have a
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: song in it that that that references five oh ones,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: but they're talking specifically about the Levi's jeans, these these
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: kind of face black jeans. But I thought it was
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: so funny that they used five oh ones because the
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: five hundred and first is the fan group that does
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: the really elaborate Empire's cosplays. So I was like, did
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: they do that? Did they pick that song specifically because
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: it references five oh ones?
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Probably probably? I I I realized watching I'm kind of
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: like a little bit of a self important geek because
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, how many of those people do I know?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Are any of those the Mandalorians that I know locally?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: But I have no idea where they filmed that? And
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: there are Mandalorian amazing Mandalorian cosplay groups all over the States.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: And although I know that my friends who do it
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: also travel, so.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, that was really yeah, it was. It's a
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: fun little ad. I mean, it did not make me
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: want to go out and get an iPhone. Actually, I
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: do like the idea of using an app that lets
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: you close in specifically on someone's location, and at a
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: science fiction convention, that would be a billion percent helpful.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: So one my Google Maps already lets me share location
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: with people, so like I can see where some of
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: my family members are at any time. This is especially
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: helpful because I've got family that does travel a lot,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: or like they would share their location when they'd go out,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: like on their boat or whatever. That sounds very fancy,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: but it's not. And so just as a way of like, hey,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: we're traveling, so and I do this too, Like, hey,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: I'm on a road trip, I'm going to share my
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: location with you, so you know, if I disappear where
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: I'm at right.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: True, But that's that's slightly different though, because this app
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: What it was really more about was letting you guiding
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: you to someone else's location, not just telling you where
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: they were, but saying this is the direction you need
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: to go in. This is how far away they are
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: from you from where you are currently, so that that
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: way you know, like, oh, I'm like four hundred feet away,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going to need to walk a little bit before
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: I can actually spot them.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a little bit more granular now, mind you.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: I haven't tried the location sharing that I have when
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: I'm close to the people I'm around, so I don't
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: know how granular I could get. But like I know,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: I like I can zoom in and see exactly where
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: they are and exactly where I am.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Also, you and I both know that if you are
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: at a science fiction convention, the chances of you getting
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: a solid connection are very low.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was going to say. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: like that's great. That looked not even as crowded as
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Dragon Con is, although it was, it was crowded enough
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: to make me feel claustrophobic in the commercial in a
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: beautiful way, but also in a way like I'm glad
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not in that crowd, but yeah, it may not work.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: If you're at Dragon Con. Is fifty percent chance it
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: won't work.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those networks get overwhelmed so quickly. I mean, anyone
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: out there who's ever been to any massive event where
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: lots of people are on their devices, you know, you
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: know that the network will get overwhelmed and then suddenly
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: you're not able to even send a text message, let
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: alone launch an app that gives you real time updates
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: on how we'll close.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Someone is yeah, okay, and We've got one more story
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: to talk about, and I'm really sad we don't have
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of time to talk about it now.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just go through this quick, which is that
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Airbnb like every now and then they do these weird
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: promotional things where they will create the company will end
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: up essentially commissioning a structure to either be built or
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: converted to resemble like a famous one, or they'll actually
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: get access to a building that was used for something
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: famous and then do like a makeover on the building
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: and then let people rent it out and in this case.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Airbnb's got a couple of interesting ones, including a house
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: in Westchester, New York that has been made up to
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: look like the Professor X's School for the Gifted in
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: X Men ninety seven as And there's also a house
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: that's been made to resemble like like every angle is
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: made to resemble the house from up so much so
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: that one they're using a crane to lift the house
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: up so that you're quote unquote flying through the air,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: and two the first ten minutes of you going to
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: the house are really sad. Yeah.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched UP.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: Not gonna. I know that joke. That joke is lost
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: on Aeriel. But y'all out there who have watched Up,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: you think that was funny.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: It's it's not lost on me. It's the reason I
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: won't watch the movie. But but I will say it
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: looks beautiful and it's a really cool idea. I don't
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: know how comfortable I am staying in a house that's
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: being lifted by a crane.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I also can you just imagine being in a
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: house like that that has like if you're in a
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: group that has kids in it, because you know those
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: kids would be running back and forth trying to get
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: the house to start swinging, and I would be like,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: I would be like just gripping onto furniture, and I'd
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: be like, I am busy pooping all the pants I
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: brought on this on this trip, not just the ones
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: I'm wearing, the ones that are still packed up. I'm
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: pooping those two.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm sure it's safe. I'm sure they've had a
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: lot of construction and engineers whatever look at it. But
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: that's scary to me. You mentioned when we were talking
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: about this before, when you brought it up to me
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: as a conversation topic, that like the X Men one
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: gives you a tour with costume characters.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that. Yes. According to
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: the article, part of the experience of renting out that
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: location is that it's like a multi hour guided tour
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: with actors who are dressed up as X Men. And
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: I told Ariel, I'm like, this sounds like I would
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: like this feels weird to say, as someone who has
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: been a character at festivals, like a street character, and
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: you're in character all day, You're not supposed to break
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: character when you are quote unquote on stage. It feels
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: weird to say this as someone who has done that.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: It feels so cringey, Like I think I would hate
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: every moment of being led around the X Men mansion
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: by Beast or whatever and just be like thinking, I
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: hope this experience ends soon.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: So I get that, Like, if you have kids, it's
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: amazing because you get the tour through the house, you
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: get to learn where all the cool things are. Right,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: there's all, but there's also like a drink mixing, like
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: a cocktail mixing class with Beast in his lab, which
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: is super cool until you think about the costumes and
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: how how what which version of Beast is it? And
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: how much is he gonna look like Beast?
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: How much? How much blue are you going to end
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: up in your cocktail?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, like for kids, probably amazing. I'm
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: really enjoying X Men ninety seven. I'm also caught up
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: on that. That's something I forgot to say I was watching.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying it. I think it's a great, great
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: show and a great continuation very much. I yeah, for kids,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: it's great. I made a joke that I'm like, or
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: you could just be like that one creepy woman who's
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: like I want to stay in this house. But I
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: only need this one X men to show me around.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: It's fine.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she specifically said Gambit, So now we know that
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Ariel likes likes that.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Creole accent Gambit, Nightcrawler and Beast.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: Wow. I'm not going to spend any time dissecting any
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: But reading the article is interesting because it looks like
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: some of these experiences might be free and first come,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: first surf.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know the details behind, actually, because that's
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: the thing about these articles, like it ends up always
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: being this big pr thing for Airbnb, but you it's
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: very rare that I actually see anything useful if you
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: wanted to be someone who actually had a chance to
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: stay in one of these places, and it does feel
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: like it typically is extremely limited to the point where
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: you start asking questions of how do they what criteria
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: do they use to choose the people who go, how
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: many of these are friends of the executives of Airbnb?
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: That kind of thing.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it does say in the article that
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: some of the experiences are free, and the ones that
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: aren't are going to be under like one hundred per
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: person and it's first come fort surf. I'll do some
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: more research to see if Airbnb has released anything about
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: signing up for that, if listeners have interest in that.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: But it's also interesting me because some of it's like
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: go see a dog, go to a concert with Doja Cat,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: or go to Kevin Hart's nightclub like exclusively to hang
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: out with him, and both of those are very busy people.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: So it's got to be like a limited time, like
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: very specific dates too.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you have to have it open in your schedule.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: It's not like it's gonna be hey, you know, August
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: is wide open.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean they've got a lot of a
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: lot of cool experiences and they're not they're all over
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: the world. Like there's a gaming one in Spain apparently.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: Did they have one where it's have tea with Florence
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: Pugh because that's all I really want.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: No, But they have one where you like, you go
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: to a house it's all about gaming and you get
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: like classes on playing Fortnite or something from a famous
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: gamer who's, oh wow, that was super into Fortnite.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I was about to say that would probably
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: be the most frustrating that experience for that person. If
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: I were the one to win that they'd be like, yeah,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: you know what, let's just put Tetris on for you,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: old man, and we're gonna just call it a night. Okay, yeah.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, don't know if you have to pay
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: to rent the Airbnb per normal and then just the
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: extra the bonuses are free, or if it's out of
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: the goodness of their heart and if you can get
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: in great. I'm guessing it's probably the former, but they
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: say that they the article that we'll post has all
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: of the current experiences that they're planning on opening at
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: the bottom of it, and then also they say that
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: they will be adding more. I think it's a cool idea,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: even if it's even if there's not one that's like, ooh,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: that's for me. Yeah, the X Men house would totally
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: be for me if I didn't have to get the
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: multi hour tour, ye, just because I would feel socially awkward.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: Which is so hard to think that you would feel
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: socially Because again, both of us have been like characters
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: who have stayed in character for ages. We understand what
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: that gig is and it's so funny. I mean, I
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: totally feel the same way you do, but it is
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: funny that that's our reaction.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Well, And I think it's because I I've looked behind
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: the matt like Disney has done it well. I've encountered
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: characters there that have totally brought me into the story.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: Like when Commander Hucks, General Hucks whatever bombarded our drink
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: time at Ogus Cantina. That was amazing and it was
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: very immersive and it didn't feel cheesy at all. We
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: were just able to like lean into it. But if
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: I'm paying to go somewhere specific and it's not a LARP,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: and I'm not also an X Men in character, then
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm worried about giving those actors
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: what they need because I've been on the side where I'm like,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: I want to give the audience what they need, so
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: I want to be a good audience member to make
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: sure that it's getting cycled back to the actors. And
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: that's where I've become very self aware.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because we've also had experiences with bad audiences, right, Like, Yeah,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: most of the audiences, thankfully that I encountered, and I
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: imagine it's the same for you, most of them have
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: been at worst neutral, mostly good, sometimes great. Sometimes you
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: have like a phenomenal interaction that just makes your day.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: On occasion, you run into bad, just outright bad audience experiences,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: and that, certainly as an actor, can really influence how
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: you comport yourself when you're in a similar situation with
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: someone else who's taking on that role, Like, don't I
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: don't really have a desire to go back to the
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: Renaissance Festival. I feel like there's not really enough for
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: me to want to do to go back. But if
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: I ever do, I'm always of the opinion that if
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: I joke about it being bad, bit bad bit, but
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: I would never do that to anyone. I would always
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: try to be the best audience member for a cast
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: member that they ever had if they were to stop
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: and interact with me. Sadly, the last few times I went,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: that wasn't really ever a possibility because I never saw
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: a character wall I walked around the entire festival.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked about that before on this episode or
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: on this not on this episode, but on this series
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: quite a lot. Yeah, but you know, I look forward
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: to reading reviews about people who do this. Yeah, because again,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's a very cool idea. I think it's
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: a super cool idea, and I hope. I hope that
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: it is as accessible as I hope it is. Yes
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: for people.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, And that's a good place for us to wrap
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: this up because it again was supposed to be a
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: short episode and ends up being one of our longest.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Ever, longest ever. Who boy, you're not kidding? Well, uh,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: we don't like we don't have a mash up, Jonathan,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Do you want to tell them how to get in.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: Touch with us? Yeah?
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: So you just want to skip it tonight?
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. They need to know, they
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: need to know. So what you're going to have to do,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: what you're going to have to do in order to
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: get in touch with me and ask me your question is,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: I don't care if you have to move mountains. You've
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: got to get a scheduled high with me and Florence Pugh.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: This has to happen if you are Florence Pew. This
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: is gonna be way easier if you're not Florence Peugh.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: I recognize this is a challenge, but you need to
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: arrange a high tea and it has to be between
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: me and Florence Pew as we sit and drink tea
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: and eat eat sandwiches and just chat about whatever it
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: is we want to chat about, that is required. And
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: once you do that, and once I'm done, you know,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: paying for it and leaving a tip. I'm not asking
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: you to pay for it. I'm asking you to actually
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: make it happen. Then you can ask me whatever the
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: heck you want. It doesn't even have to be about
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: the show. It can be anything, and I'll give you
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: the answer.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And if the closest you want to get to
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: high tea with Florence Pugh is watching her do that
• 1:27:45
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• 1:27:48
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• 1:27:52
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• 1:27:54
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• 1:27:56
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• 1:28:06
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• 1:28:12
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