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Rising Above Negative Circumstances · The World Knowledge

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  Speaker 1: Well, good evening listeners. Thank you so much for coming
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  Speaker 1: on and taking time to listen to Lamenta Vogue podcast,
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  Speaker 1: another episode for you.
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  Speaker 2: And today it's.
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  Speaker 1: A special one for me because my mom, she was
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  Speaker 1: a mom in her late 30s, early 40s because she
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  Speaker 1: struggled with infertility.
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  Speaker 2: So it took her 12 years to have me. And
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  Speaker 2: then shortly after me, she had my sister. Well, I
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  Speaker 2: think you're Because I would say after 13 times, like
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  Speaker 2: you said, 13 miscarriages, I probably, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: I would do. I have no idea. But like my
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  Speaker 2: first response would be despair. Just go, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: I'm done. No more. It's not in the books for me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to figure out what I'm supposed to do
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  Speaker 2: with my life now. But your hope seems greater than
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  Speaker 2: your despair, if that makes any sense. The fact that
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  Speaker 2: you would even keep going and trying because you want to,
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  Speaker 2: that's incredible. How do you do that? How is it
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  Speaker 2: that your hope is so great? Is it because your
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  Speaker 2: love and desire for children is so much greater than
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  Speaker 2: the despair and pain you feel when you lose each time?
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  Speaker 3: That's a really good question. I've never actually thought about
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  Speaker 3: it that way before. I really believe that my desire
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  Speaker 3: to be a mom and to raise the type of
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  Speaker 3: children that I plan to raise is what drives me.
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  Speaker 3: And also seeing my husband as a dad, seeing him
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  Speaker 3: that way, that's shifted a lot throughout the years, seeing
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  Speaker 3: him with our nephews and– seeing him like just be
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  Speaker 3: around kids in general, obviously makes my ovaries scream. But
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  Speaker 3: seeing him and wanting, wanting him to be a dad
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  Speaker 3: and then seeing the attribute, like the things that how
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  Speaker 3: we would parent together, like just imagining our life together,
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  Speaker 3: what it would be like, excuse me, when we have
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  Speaker 3: children and the children that we want to have, that
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  Speaker 3: is what drives me. It's like that almost like, that
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  Speaker 3: future version of me that's looking back and just saying,
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  Speaker 3: keep going because you're almost there. I feel so close.
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  Speaker 3: And I've said that for years. I literally had a
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  Speaker 3: talk with ChatGPT the other day of like, why do
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  Speaker 3: I keep saying that it feels so close? I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I'm almost there. I almost can have that life
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  Speaker 3: I've always dreamed of. Why does it feel like it's
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  Speaker 3: so close? And I've been doing that for years. So
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  Speaker 3: is it actually close? Am I just going to keep
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  Speaker 3: blindly thinking that it's close? Um, and they're obviously chat
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have any kind of answer for that, but I just,
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  Speaker 3: I just have to keep believing that I'm going to get,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be a mom. I'm going to be
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  Speaker 3: a mom. I'm going to watch my husband be a
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  Speaker 3: dad and I'm going to raise some amazing children. And
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  Speaker 3: that's the only option. That's the only option I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to allow. And if that means that it's only adoption,
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  Speaker 3: so be it. If it's IVF, awesome. If it's naturally cool, I'm,
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  Speaker 3: I'm open. But I just know that it has to happen.
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  Speaker 3: It is written in the stars, whatever. Like it's written
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  Speaker 3: for me. I know that I'm going to be a
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  Speaker 3: mom and I just have to keep going. And I
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  Speaker 3: can't be the only one that feels this way. Other
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  Speaker 3: people have to know, like other people have to feel
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  Speaker 3: this way too, right? And so, and that's posting on
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  Speaker 3: social media has opened those doors of like, wow, there
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  Speaker 3: are people that feel this way, right?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think you're right in the sense that people
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  Speaker 2: are so quick to despair. And I think that's why
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  Speaker 2: what was so neat about your channel is that it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't despairing. It was honest. You know, it was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the pregnancy test today was negative.