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Thunderbolts* Review! · May The Review Be With You

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  Speaker 1: Basically, this character is the physical manifestation of the extreme
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  Speaker 1: mutation of depression, which is amounthaful. Hello and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: May the review be with you With Nick and Joe.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nick today, I am solo hosting. Joe is out
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  Speaker 1: of town on vacation, traveling perhaps or maybe he has
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  Speaker 1: found himself in a void. And if that is any indication,
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  Speaker 1: you already know what we're talking about here today. It
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  Speaker 1: is the MCU's Thunderbolts, which was just released a few
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  Speaker 1: days ago. Quite a movie, my goodness. I will have
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  Speaker 1: to start off by just saying, please go to the
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  Speaker 1: theater and watch this film. It was fantastic. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of chatter online that it might be a new
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  Speaker 1: addition to the top ten all time from a Marvel perspective.
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  Speaker 1: That's a pretty big statement. Although I have a hard
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  Speaker 1: time not putting it in my top ten at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: It's that good this movie, guys, it felt like Avengers esque.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly haven't had a feeling like this since the
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  Speaker 1: first Avengers film. The cast and just kind of how
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  Speaker 1: they like play off of each other and interact. The
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  Speaker 1: on screen chemistry was excellent. Writing wise, really solid storyline throughout,
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  Speaker 1: just to kind of give you an overview or quick
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  Speaker 1: synopsis of the film. Basically, it's about an unconventional team
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  Speaker 1: of antiheroes including Elena, Agent, Walker, task Master, although for
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  Speaker 1: like five minutes, Ghost, Winter, Soldier, Red Guardian, they're all
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  Speaker 1: thrust into a dangerous mission led by Valentina. They're tasked
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  Speaker 1: with like cleaning up her loose ends and shady businesses,
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  Speaker 1: including Bob, who is also a loose end, although unexpected. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: the Thunderbolt's face a death trap and must confront their
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  Speaker 1: pass while simultaneously dealing with VAL's manipulation and her plan
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  Speaker 1: to unleash Bob aka Century on the anti heroes. Things
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  Speaker 1: take a turn when Bob's depression kicks in and Century
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  Speaker 1: becomes a villainous void. So that sounds like a lot
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  Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with the plot. There you go,
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  Speaker 1: crazy amount of things going on this film, few fun
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  Speaker 1: like quick hits. We got an Avenger's Tower appearance, which
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting Century. It was crazy powerful At first
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  Speaker 1: when this movie was like before it came out, I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking, like, is this villain going to be like
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  Speaker 1: too powerful for like the heroes that we're supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be dealing with here, but the movie does a great
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  Speaker 1: job kind of like getting us on board with the
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  Speaker 1: outcome and what happens next and essentially dealing with like
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  Speaker 1: a crazy powerful like superhero for a split second, but
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  Speaker 1: who also really has like a split personality because of
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  Speaker 1: depression and ends up becoming like a villainous void instead.
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  Speaker 1: On the back half, there really really interesting character Bob,
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  Speaker 1: who was played by Lewis Pullman, is just like a
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  Speaker 1: fantastic performance all around. Basically, this character is the physical
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  Speaker 1: manifestation of the extreme mutation of depression, which is a
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  Speaker 1: mouthful but just truly like a crazy way for the
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  Speaker 1: MCU to basically tackle depression. Movie kicks off with Ulena
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  Speaker 1: basically being depressed and looking for fulfillment and not being fulfilled,
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  Speaker 1: and then kind of like kicks off from there and
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  Speaker 1: we go we find out that Valentina is potentially being
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  Speaker 1: impeached and that Bucky is one of the congressmen trying
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  Speaker 1: to do that, and of course the it doesn't completely
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  Speaker 1: work out that way. Also, the way that they portrayed
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  Speaker 1: the void in this film terrifying happy that it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: an end all be all, so hopefully Joe joins us
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  Speaker 1: back here at some point in the future. This film
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  Speaker 1: also gives off like a vibe for this next phase
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  Speaker 1: of Marvel. This might be the best film that they've
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  Speaker 1: released since Endgame. It really felt cohesive and fun and
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  Speaker 1: funny and well written, and also did a good job
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  Speaker 1: leaving some questions open and setting up what's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen next. Basically, there's an extremely long post credit scene.
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  Speaker 1: We get a mid credit scene which is just a
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  Speaker 1: kind of funny little scene with Red Guardian, but then
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  Speaker 1: the post credit scene is like, I think two and
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  Speaker 1: a half plus minutes long, the longest post credit scene
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  Speaker 1: we've ever had. Basically picks up fourteen months after this
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  Speaker 1: movie originally ends, and we're dealing with like an extra
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  Speaker 1: dimensional ship entering orbit, and we find out that it's
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  Speaker 1: a Fantastic Four ship. So that's insane. Of course, we're
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  Speaker 1: all assuming it's the Fantastic Four that we're going to
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  Speaker 1: get to know here in this movie that comes out
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  Speaker 1: in a couple months. But as far as a post
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  Speaker 1: credit scene, one of the cooler post credit scenes we've
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  Speaker 1: probably ever gotten to set up like another thing that's
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  Speaker 1: coming next for Marvel. Marvel's at its best when it's
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  Speaker 1: using its post credit scenes and then also following through
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  Speaker 1: on them. Of course, we on this podcast love post
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  Speaker 1: credit scenes. You can check out our top twelve MCU
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  Speaker 1: post credit scenes on YouTube or on our podcast network
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  Speaker 1: and I'll link those in the show notes. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was like a crazy awesome way to end in
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  Speaker 1: the film. There just a couple other things from the
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  Speaker 1: movie in general that were really really cool. The moment
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  Speaker 1: where they're all the anti heroes if you will enter
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  Speaker 1: the Void together to go save Bob, just basically kind
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  Speaker 1: of like a just a bunch of like shame rooms
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  Speaker 1: or like escape rooms, if you will inside basically like
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  Speaker 1: Bob's mind, and we get like all these flashbacks to
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  Speaker 1: Bob's past and like get an idea for like why
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  Speaker 1: he is the way that he is. And really this
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  Speaker 1: like movie kind of pulls on your heart a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: like the emotional rollercoaster of it and the really upfrontness
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  Speaker 1: of the highs and lows of in and out being
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  Speaker 1: in and out of like a depressive state. What a
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  Speaker 1: really interesting way to tackle that. Honestly, I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: many franchises could do that, and Marvel found a way
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  Speaker 1: to also make it work for them and make the
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  Speaker 1: movie you know, funny and entertaining and just makes you
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  Speaker 1: fall in love with like all these characters. And essentially
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  Speaker 1: it's called Thunderbolts, but we know that that's like a
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  Speaker 1: placeholder now and Valentine at the end makes it about
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  Speaker 1: her and how this was always at playing all along,
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  Speaker 1: and we get this this new name of the New
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  Speaker 1: Avengers with a Z, which just the Red Guardian's little
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  Speaker 1: flair add to it, so it was quite ridiculous, as
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  Speaker 1: only the O the Red Guardian could be. Let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about Bob aka Century aka our Villainous Void. We first
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  Speaker 1: find Bob in the basically this you know, down in
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  Speaker 1: the bunker that Valentina sends all these anti heroes to
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  Speaker 1: and they're all kind of like fighting with each other,
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  Speaker 1: and somehow they end up triggering this like you know,
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  Speaker 1: for all intentsive purposes like Coffin that ends up opening up.
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  Speaker 1: This is where Bob has been basically just stored, and
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  Speaker 1: we come to find out that Bob was like presumed dead,
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  Speaker 1: but obviously he survived the like testing that we find
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  Speaker 1: out later they were doing on him and many of the
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  Speaker 1: people trying to create like their own superhero super not
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  Speaker 1: even a super soldier, but just like somebody with every
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  Speaker 1: single power basically you can do anything. And the comedic
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  Speaker 1: relief here is so great because you know, Bob doesn't
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  Speaker 1: remember anything, and everyone else in that room is just
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  Speaker 1: the tensions are so high, and they're just trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out where the hell this guy came from and
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  Speaker 1: why he was like stored down here, and so, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we that's when we first meet him, and as the
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  Speaker 1: story progresses, we find out more details about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the testing that they did on him and and and
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  Speaker 1: what he became. But really it's it's one of those
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  Speaker 1: examples of like the serum that they gave him just
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  Speaker 1: essentially manifesting how his personality was times a thousand, and
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  Speaker 1: Bob mentions this like earlier in the film, how like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he gets is really high moments and then
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  Speaker 1: these really lows are really low, And we actually get
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  Speaker 1: to see that with his like split personality once he
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  Speaker 1: becomes century and has this like golden god esque vibe,
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  Speaker 1: and then we get this like very low version of him,
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  Speaker 1: very dark, who is much more villainous. And this is
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  Speaker 1: like the quote unquote void character that he essentially splits
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  Speaker 1: into and when this happens, Bob is basically like in
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  Speaker 1: his own mind and like trapped basically, and this is
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  Speaker 1: when the anti heroes have to like go get him out.
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  Speaker 1: One thing that bothered me that I didn't really think
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  Speaker 1: they clarified was, you know, Valentino has like a kill
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  Speaker 1: switch that apparently, you know, anyone that they were testing
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  Speaker 1: had been put in place, and her assistant like triggers
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  Speaker 1: this kill switch. When Bob is centry and deciding not
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  Speaker 1: to listen to Valentina and Valentine, and he falls to
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  Speaker 1: the ground and you know, to Valentina's thought, like dies
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  Speaker 1: because the kill switch like works. But moments later we
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  Speaker 1: see that like he kind of turns all black like
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  Speaker 1: into a shadow, and very soon after that, like he
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  Speaker 1: rises up and is clearly not dead. And they didn't
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  Speaker 1: explain at all, like why the kill switch didn't work,
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  Speaker 1: So I felt like that was a little bit like
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  Speaker 1: of an open thing. They could have maybe throw throw
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  Speaker 1: us a bone and just kind of given us some
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  Speaker 1: kind of detail on what the reason for that not
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  Speaker 1: working is. Granted very possible, Valentine, obviously, there's no way
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  Speaker 1: for them to know why it didn't work in that
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  Speaker 1: moment because everything transpired so quickly, and the movie really
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  Speaker 1: from there ends like timeline wise, probably an hour or
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  Speaker 1: two later after the back after they go into the void.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe that's something that we'll find out later on
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  Speaker 1: why the kill switch didn't work. That would be a
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  Speaker 1: cool little thing to get some more details on. But
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  Speaker 1: that was like the biggest thing I think honestly that
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  Speaker 1: I thought of, like in the theater watching it. But
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  Speaker 1: Bob excellent character. Lewis Pulman plays them beautifully, like having
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  Speaker 1: these like split personalities really just honestly an interesting villain
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  Speaker 1: for me. I almost wish they could have maybe expanded
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  Speaker 1: on the void situation, like because when he becomes his villain,
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  Speaker 1: this void, like all he really does is just engulf
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  Speaker 1: the city in the void, and I'm assuming like everyone
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  Speaker 1: goes into their own like worst moment memories, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in there, unless they all go into Bob's world, which
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  Speaker 1: would be crazy, but we don't really know that. We
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  Speaker 1: just know that when the heroes the anti heroes go
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  Speaker 1: into the void, they are essentially in Bob's in Bob's mind,
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  Speaker 1: leaves it opened to interpretation on where the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the people of the city kind of went to Yolena
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  Speaker 1: was also like one of the probably the lead character
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  Speaker 1: in the whole film. She really like drove it home.
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  Speaker 1: Florence Pew did a fantastic job really making you believe
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  Speaker 1: in the lack of fulfillment and searching for something bigger
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  Speaker 1: than herself and really she just wanted to be part
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  Speaker 1: of a team. I think that's something we can all
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  Speaker 1: relate to. So that was a really cool journey to
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  Speaker 1: kind of see Elena go on and the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the film, she's kind of like implies she wants to
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  Speaker 1: be in the spotlight, and by the end she's in
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  Speaker 1: the spotlight, and it's kind of like Valentina giving her
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  Speaker 1: careful what you wish for a situation, But of course
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  Speaker 1: Elena giving Valentina the whole statement on saying, you know, basically,
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  Speaker 1: the Thunderbolts own Valentina now because they know the real
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  Speaker 1: truth and for whatever reason, they decided not to out
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  Speaker 1: her in that moment. So that'll be interesting moving forward
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  Speaker 1: as well. Red Guardian always a highlight for me. Guy's crazy,
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  Speaker 1: He's absolutely insane. Biggest comedic relief for sure, Agent Walker
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  Speaker 1: poor Man's Captain America did not hate him as much
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  Speaker 1: as I have in the past MCU in the past
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  Speaker 1: MCU shows, So kudos to the writers here for making
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  Speaker 1: me hate him less and now he's a part of
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  Speaker 1: the team. So I think part of that was that
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  Speaker 1: they kind of humanized him a little bit, like with
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  Speaker 1: the storyline finding out that you know, his wife and
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  Speaker 1: daughter like left him basically, and so maybe try to
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  Speaker 1: make it more likable on that front. We got Ghost
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  Speaker 1: back finally, which is fricking badass. Like, have not seen
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  Speaker 1: Ghost in many films, so that's really cool that that
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  Speaker 1: she's back in the fold here in the MCU exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Bucky is probably one of my top five characters of
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  Speaker 1: all time. So getting like a film with like tons
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  Speaker 1: of Bucky appearances and getting to see the Winter Soldier
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  Speaker 1: in action fantastic. I still have so many questions about
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  Speaker 1: him putting his arm in a dishwasher. I would love
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  Speaker 1: for Rocket to witness that. That would be one of
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  Speaker 1: the funniest things that Rock could probably would ever see
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  Speaker 1: Bucky cleaning his arm in a dishwasher. So maybe the
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  Speaker 1: MCU will give us that moment one day down the line.
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  Speaker 1: Quite ridiculous, But yeah, Bucky of course plays a congressman,
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  Speaker 1: although it turns out I guess he's not a congressman
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  Speaker 1: for very long halfway through the film is you know,
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  Speaker 1: back to being a superhero here, and it's just what
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  Speaker 1: he does best. So it's also funny that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the film we find out that
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  Speaker 1: they're basically the New Avengers, but that also when the
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  Speaker 1: extra Dimensional Ship or Fantastic four ship enters, it sounds
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  Speaker 1: like Sam Wilson's trying to gather a new group of Avengers,
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  Speaker 1: and so we're not sure who the real Avengers are
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  Speaker 1: at the moment. I'm assuming it's gonna be the New Avengers,
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  Speaker 1: and then also whoever Sam puts together will probably end
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  Speaker 1: up being one big team. But right now there's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of it seemed like animosity between Pucky and
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  Speaker 1: Sam was like not being honest with each other about
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  Speaker 1: who the real Avengers are. So that might be maybe
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  Speaker 1: we'll get a New Avengers versus Real Avengers movie or
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  Speaker 1: a little spin off Christmas special that'd be great, but
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  Speaker 1: New Avengers, tons of new questions, fantastic for our coming
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  Speaker 1: insane film might be a top ten film all time,
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  Speaker 1: which is a big statement. But you're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: decide for yourself. Please go see it in theaters. It's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Let me know what you think in the comments and
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  Speaker 1: talking about and or let me know in the comments
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  Speaker 1: what you think about Thunderbolts. If you've seen it, subscribe
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  Speaker 1: if you can. Looking ahead May twelfth, we've got our
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  Speaker 1: oz Fest or releasing, so keep a look out for that.
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  Speaker 1: Joe should be back for oz Fest from the Void.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're gonna go get him. Yeah. Until next time,
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  Speaker 1: May the of you be with you. Physio