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All Stars - County Final Dramatics - Roarty Heads for Oz · On The Edge Sports Podcast

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: Hello and welcome back to On the Edge Sports Podcast with myself, Brendan Tierney, and joined as ever by Darren Kearns.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: Today we're going to be talking all-stars, dipping in a little bit about the some of the amazing county finals and the finales they had.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: Darren, let's get straight in.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: Let's name out the team, and then you can argue who should or shouldn't be in it.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: So the all-star team that was named was just a quick thanks to our sponsors, EJ Menswear and EJ Mensweer.com here in Sligo Town.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: Shane Murphy of Kerry in goal.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_01: The full back line was Sam Callan and Mayo, Jason Foley, Kerry, End Hessian Mayo, the halfback lines, Ronan Wallace Westmead, Darren McDonnell of Loud, and Charlie Oak Burns of Armab.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: Midfield, Conn Kilpatrick of Tyrone, Jack Carney of Mayo, half forwards, Nilescully, Dublin, Reiner Dunnahu Mayo, Stephen O'Hannon, Monaghan.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: And the full forward line, Dara Byrne Mayo, David Clifford Carey, Kobe McDonald, Mayo.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: Fair team.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't like to face them.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: I would not like to face it.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: Fair team.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: Where would you have your arguments?
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's look at there's a couple of um arguments.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like obviously, you're going to make arguments for a few different players here and there.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like they're putting a couple of players in there.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like if you go straight to the debate with Stephen O'Hanlon there at wing forward, he played all his best football at wing back towards the ladder.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: Nearly man marking a lot of time.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, as a ta as a tagging role, and got a couple of them out of the matches because of it.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: And then he gets his all-star in the wing forward position, and that then doesn't allow somebody else to take up their forward spot who had probably played in the forward line.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: Now there's arguments, of course, in the back line.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: I suppose the goalkeeper, Shane Murphy, there got it for Kerry.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: Now Rory Begin is probably you know a little bit harshly done by because like the influence Rory Begin had on some of the games throughout the summer was phenomenal.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like he clawed Mount back against Derry.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: He had real input into loads of the other games, and the game that he didn't play got better.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that knocked him out of the championship.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: So that's like that's one player.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: And then young Jack Livingston for Mayo, like again, he turned a lot of Mayo's fortunes round halfway through the season when he when he came in and placed a raw penalty.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: But overall, probably Shane Murphy probably just shaded a little bit for saves and for kickouts.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it was kind of Shane Murphy's debut in a way, a debut year.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: And it was a great article uh recently.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: I think you might have shared it to me, like just the background and the self-doubt he had and that.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean, and fairness, Livingston was unreal for his debut season.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: So to come in with that as your backstory, whereas Begin, like he's been there, done that.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so and then I I I will I would you could see the arguments for all three, but I just think Shane Murphy before he came in, he was phenomenal.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: His kickouts were unbelievable all year, you know.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: And then in the full backline, Jason Foley, obviously, and Endaheson nailed on.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think they're like two of the best footballers there in the country at the moment that really are really nailed on.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: Sam Callanan picks up the corner back spot there.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, I I don't know, did you see it earlier on?
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_00: There was an interview that Sam done himself, then he woke up this morning and he had an abundance of uh WhatsApp messages coming through.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't know what was going on.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: So he wasn't expecting it.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: Well, not only was he expecting it, but it's like I suppose nobody from the outside looking in really knows the ins and outs of how the All-Stars are given out, or did he get a text last night to tell him that he was there, or did he get it, or whatever?
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_00: No, there was nothing, and this is coming from him, and he finds out himself the same as we all did, and we woke up this morning that he was after the all-stars.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you'd think there'd be some system like that.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there was.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I suppose probably guy that's probably a little bit unlucky in that sense, is Charlie McMorror from Dublin that lost out that Sam Cannell probably got his got his place there.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: Now, Sam probably warranted a fair shout as well, and the guys that went with him, you know, you have to argue the point.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_00: But Charlie McMorror had a big influence for the dubs this year.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: But how many were they going to give Dublin?
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: Was it only going to be one?
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: And if it was only going to be one, then was it Charlie McMahor?
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: Was it Niall Scully, you know, like and Scully ended up getting it in the half-hour position himself?
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_00: Again, it's just an argument.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it's a good thing.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_01: So no matter who no matter who was picked, it would be an argument regardless.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_01: You can argue the whole point.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_01: Just for fun, let's I'm just comparing here the the Sunday game all-star team of the year.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: So they also picked Shane Murphy, uh, Sam Cannell and Jason Foley, and the Hessian.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so let's just move to the halfbacks.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_01: So the official all-star team, Ronan Wallace, Westmead, Darren McDonald of Loud, and Charlie Oak Burns of Armagh.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_01: Whereas the Sunday game picked David McBride, Darren McDonnell, and Matthew Whitaker.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I think there's a lot of argument.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: This is just again people's opinions, it's all a bit of crack.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Charlie Oak Burns out of those three definitely seems to be the one that most people thought probably didn't.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's kind of like it's it's like Matthew Whittaker had an excellent season, and again, probably the argument was how many are Westmead going to get?
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: Are they going to give them one or are they going to give them two?
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: And it was probably between himself and Ronan Wallace, it really was.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: And that that argument will go on, and that debate will go on, and I'm sure it's going on at Westmead as well.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because you know, both of them you know had had super out-ins throughout the season.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: But Whitaker, you know, like Rona Wallace was the captain.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so did that edge towards him, like he he he lifted the Leinster trophy for Westmead, did that give him a little edge towards it?
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: And Darren McDonald at six super season for him, like great football.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: He was unbelievable, also.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: And he's only young, he's only a kid, yeah, he really is.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, but McBreen or McBride, David McBride from Mayo, like he's very unlucky to lose out.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like without him, I don't think Mayo win the All Ireland.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: Now you could argue that for a lot of you, a lot of the Mayo players, but like he had a real, real you know, opening for that goal that Darrell Byrne got in the All-Ilerland final.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he drove, he got the he got the turnover, he didn't rest on his laws, he drove up the field, he flicked the ball on when anybody else might have caught the ball and probably taken his own score.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: He got a fist of point in that game in the All-Inland final as well, and he had a real influence on the Mayo winning Sam.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: He really did, and definitely is a little bit unlucky.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I seen loads of stuff online today, wondering how he didn't win an all-star.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: But like, you have to draw the line somewhere, you can't it's so you have to pick something somewhere, and like this isn't the GA that picks this before people go like it's it's a whole team of people and journalists and everything else.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and like I mean, I kind of said to my old friend of mine today, I said, maybe because their two quarterfinals didn't end up being what you might class as really tough battles, classic, classic games, you know, and that probably just didn't stick in people's memory as much.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know what I mean?
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: What's the memorable moments, you know?
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_01: So that probably went against them.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: And but when you're you're talking there, the thing that you mentioned there, memorable moments, like everybody is going to remember what David McBride done in the All Iron Final.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Not enough people, obviously.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: And then and and maybe not, and then like on Sam Callan's memorable moments, he had look, you know, he he had a super outing in the all-iron final.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: He tagged Gavin White, who was a wing back and a wing forward, and he really nullified Gavin White in that all iron final.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: But Sam Callan fisted the ball over the bar against Tyrone when the goal was on, they lost that game in Tyrone.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's a memorable moment for him for the wrong reason.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: And by the way, I know we mentioned Jarlie Oakburns.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: We're just talking about the discourse out there.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: I don't particularly have a strong opinion.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he scored 24 points in the championship.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like he was one of their key players as well.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_01: And look, I I the one thing that is is it was the most diverse all-star team since 2010, yeah, which I actually like because I do think sometimes the winners get to win a there's a bit rose-tinted glasses picking from the winners, and this is because of me.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, any year.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and there was there was one thing that Carl O'Kane done uh today.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: He he kind of he kind of gave the reasoning and the reckoning behind why this team, because he was on the All-Star committee this year for the first time, and the one thing that he could say about Jared O'Burns was that his outing against Down in the Ulster semi-final was a great outing, but like it was a landslide victory for Irma, and you know he tagged Oram Murdoch.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_01: I just read because I found the article last month's uh Kerr Ker Horkane did this, he analysed 649 combined championship possessions of the three players of the year candidates, uh, which is I've got to remind myself now, Ryan O'Dunnohu, David Clifford, David Clifford and Jack Kearney.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um 255 for O'Dunhoo's, 217 for Kearney, and 177 for Clifford.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: O'Kane's deep dive surely itself weren't an award.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: Devin, the scoring chances taken, missed assists, turnovers won and possessions lost.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like, if he got the job of picking an Australian, he said, I'm going to do it right.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think many other people do that, but to a different level.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it was fascinating to see how much in in in depth he went, like, and to patience to do that.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_01: But like dipping away from the player of the year there for a moment, uh, as you're saying, I often think would it be better if there was nearly like a power rankings?
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and it's done by a 10-person panel every week.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: So you nearly have to find your place, you know, it doesn't just come out of the blue.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you nearly know coming up to it who's up for it now.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there and that's that's done in some sports, like it's I think that's done the Aussie rules, it really is.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it's how you um go throughout the season and your markers are there, and if you're in the top X amount of players at the end of the season, the top bracket of all them hitting their parameters, then you end up in the in the the all-star team or whatever.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_01: But probably why don't they do an Alliance League uh all-stars?
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: It'd be a just simple ceremony, it'd be a nice little hat tip to people who go, Look at it.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: We know that the weaker teams have their bigger day in the sun, maybe.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because I would I would strongly think that basing this all-star team and even the Sunday game team of the year, league form did not come into any recording in any judgment call on that.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: I would I would safely say that is a fact, like you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we'd know any goal players and mention anyway.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_00: So that's that's like you go to your two midfielders, like Colin Kapatrick and Jack Carney, and like you know, they were in both teams, the Sunday team of the year and the all-star team.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: No big arguments.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think there's arguments there for didn't hear a lot of people giving out what that one was, sure.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, like some people say, Michael Langan, John Mahark, Kieran, Kilkenny, Marco Shea.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think any of them give enough arguments.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: Marco Shea, if if um Kerry had won the All-Ireland, he probably would have snuck in there instead of Jack Carney.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and and to the victors, the spoils.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's that that that that probably is.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: And not to dwell too long on this either, because I mean, like, just to go to the half-ords, Nile Scully, Ryan or Dunhu, Stephen O'Hanlon, the uh that was the official all-stars, and then on the Sunday game team, they picked Niles Scully, Paudy Clifford, and Jordan Flynn.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_01: So Jordan Flynn and Paudy Clifford.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: Again, like I'd say Jordan Flynn is a victim of the Mayo success in the fact that it's so spread out.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, there's lots of them first-time all-stars, there's lots of fellas from different counties, and again, they were probably looking at the fact, okay, there's like there's six for Mayo, we can't give seven, we can't give eight.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: So that's how McBride misses out, and that's how Jordan Flynn misses out.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, and Jordan Flynn had excellent outings, he really did.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: He put his hand up, like I think there was um Tommy Rooney done a piece today on the amount of tackles that he had in the All-Irland final alone, which was 12 himself, which is phenomenal.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's a that's a game-changing stat if you were analysing it deeply probably.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_00: For Jordan Flynn to do that, like and Paudi then misses out.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: I know Paudi had missed the early stages, but like he had a huge influence on Kerry getting to the All-Irland final.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: He really did, like, and he controlled an awful lot of it.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: And again, even in the All-In final, he stood up and was counted towards the end when Kerry really needed somebody.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, himself and his younger brother really did, but again, he's missing out.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like to me, I would I mean, I know Stephen O'Hanlon made it in Niles Cully.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: I think I think you could put Jordan Flynn in for either of them.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: You could, and no one would have gone too mad.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you knew my argument about Niles Cully during the championship.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's good, and I was questioning some of the things that gone, oh, is there a little bit of a blue mist here or something?
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: I I just thought it was obviously it's a good season, but I just wasn't sure.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think it'd be a lot easier to have put Jordan Flynn in there, and no one would have said boo like again.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think there would have been a huge argument about it.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's the key of this is what we're called the biggest argument.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I don't think that would have been a good one.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: And then when you go into the full forward line, you obviously have the two young guns in uh both corners, Dar Byrne and Kobe, and then obviously the goat himself at full forward winning his seventh All-Star.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: I do know I'm not honestly sure at the top my head.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: And he's 27 years of age.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_00: So like that.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: I think they should just have they'll be they should have like 16 all-stars and go, Well, he's just going to get one anyways.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: So you nearly write it up.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: But it's and and with Kobe and Dara Byrne there, like it I would think it would have been unfair and unjust for one of them to get it and the other not.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, in different ways, they brought enough to help win that all earning or the journey through it.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and Darrell Byrne again, young guy and his debut season, you know, and at times he was better than Kobe and the other way around in different matches.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um and obviously, uh I forget the player the younger of the year, actually.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't even look up that part.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I know Kobe's.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: And you'd be kind of thinking it's it's going to be one of the OLADs.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is going to be one of the Olads.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: Which one?
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: You call it?
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: If it was me, I'd give it to Darrow Byrne.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think Darabyrne, yeah.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: I would give it to Darrow Byrne.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: And look, Kobe's one of these unbelievable talents, but he kind of can come in out of games, and that's no harm to him, isn't he young?
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm just saying Darrow Byrne for me, some of the stuff he did in the big moments in the All-In final at his age, David Season.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: I thought that was unbelievable.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like, forget about the goal for a second, go to that free kick that he got from under the Cusick stand.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, uh, phenomenal kick, outrageous kick, like young kid in all Ireland final, you know, took on the responsibility to kick it and nailed it, and then he gets the goal at the start of the second half.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: He was carrying an injury.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: We found out afterwards.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_01: He went off against Mead in Castle Bar, wasn't that it?
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: And like that game, Mead's turned around the game then.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: So you know, him is an outlet and he's scoring a building.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: What a what a breakthrough season.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: What a breakthrough season.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, Kobe is the talk of the town, and and rightly so.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like in he he uh what he done from his opening game when Andy gave him the licence to go and play ball, you know, he had he had a great outing as well.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: And uh like I wouldn't be surprised to see Kobe picking up the award tomorrow night.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: Not at all, yeah, yeah.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: But I just think that it might just swing it, that it might be Darrell Brown just for his performance the Iron final alone.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: And then when you go to the player of the year, uh like Well, I would be going Reiner Dunho.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the player of the year is voted by the players, it's not the German.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: So on that basis, you know, would the players be looking at saying, okay, Clifford has won.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: Three, yeah, right.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: And whether we like or not, that's that human sentiment can come into the goal.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: He's ah he's enough of them.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: And he's going to win another one.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: And he's not he's not there tomorrow night.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: He's gone the team holiday, the carrying team holiday, right?
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: So let's give it to Ryan, who he's going to be there.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: He had an unbelievable season himself.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: Mayo one there at Ireland, he mightn't get an opportunity to get player of the year again.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: Let's give it to him, you know.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: And in fairness to Ryan, he's been a key person for a couple of years.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: So he's done the hard work and slogged along, like you know.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_01: So uh it'll be interesting to see because you said no one can give out about that one because it was voted by the players who have done the training, played against some of these guys, and they probably know a lot better than us.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but look at it's it's it just shows you the debate, and uh, you you go you go through any fellas that are talking about GEA throughout the county and the country, and people come up with different players in different positions and a different team all together.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: So that's the beauty about Gaelic football at the moment.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: It there's loads of fellas that are playing at a very, very high level, like, and again, no more than anything else, I suppose there's a couple of Roscalm guys that can feel a little bit unjust as a little case, especially early in the season.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Darra Heenahan there, even Jim Mertha, like you know, uh Conic Champs, you know, they didn't get one, yeah.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: So they'll feel a little bit unlucky as well.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: When the but when you're getting the nomination, you know, it's a hat tip towards your season, also.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, it's it's it's it's nothing to be.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: Look, I think more than the ballon d'or the other night.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't particularly care who wins it.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: I don't get too emotional about the All-Stars, you know, because I go, I I watch sport to watch sport, not because who gets the awards, the trophies mean the thing, and they're a lovely thing for a player, so it's really just about the players.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it's the and when you talk to any players or you listen to any players, they're not doing it to win the all-star either.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: You they're doing it for the team environment and the team to be getting better, you know what I mean?
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: I funny, I shared a taxi la last year by complete coincidence with Seamus Moynihan.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and I don't even know off the top of my head of many he won.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: He won't heap them, and he said, Oh no, no, no, nothing matter, none of them matter to me, bar Sam McGuire.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: So that's one of the greatest players ever to play it.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I'm sure he didn't he wasn't saying completely dismissing it, but he was like, What was these important things to win?
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: You start out the season in them big counties, it's Sam as the prize.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Anything else after that is a Brucey bonus, isn't it?
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so uh obviously the well, obviously we we have covered the Sligo championship obviously the last few months, and there'll be like Sligo or St.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: Mary's sorry are out uh next week against St.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: Bridget's.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh it's half one down in Hyde Park if anyone is watching, but in general, around the country, there was a few key uh county finals with the maze and finishes like I mean up in Tyrone, Eden Dork when their first every night lights, whoa, like uh Nan Morgan, like but how many times does this man keep doing this?
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like did it against Mayo, wasn't it?
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like you go back to you go back to the it was this was the replay and go back to the first game, like and Darren McCurry splits the post with an outside the left boot from outside the 45 for a two-pointer at the debt, and there's the whole um four-up breach or three-up breach, you know, and uh in fairness to the ref, and that there was a man down injured that he hadn't seen, or that the linesman had called it, he didn't see him that he was down injured.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: So Eden Dork then get their just reward because it was I didn't even know any of that happened.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: So then it brought it brought it to the replay, and it's it's played six days later or five days later.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: That was on the Sunday, five days later on the Friday night, and you know the clutch moment at the end, like you're talking about clutch moments, and you go back to Niall Morgan, he done it for Tyrone against Mayo in the championship at clutch moment, and he touched back.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: If you're on his in interview that he done during the season, he had missed the chance to beat Armagh in the opening game of the Ulster Championship with a two-point effort that drifted wide.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: So all of these things are going through his head.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: And he comes up the field and he takes the place ball.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: Con Katrick gets it, who you know, runs, flicks the ball up, gets fouled.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Darren McCurry comes out, has a look at it.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: Nile Morgan is halfway up the field, and yeah, and McCurry just decides here, Morgan, kick that over the bear, win us the championship for the first time ever.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, I seen uh Wooly Wooly Parkinson's video on the sideline, and it was one of the most unbelievable noise and moment and release.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and that's the joy that's unbelievable.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it was actually Colin Parkinson said as well, uh, somewhere on X or something, he said, you know, people that are saying, Oh, you know, there's nothing, you know, there's the GA missing out a window, there's no they're they're not putting their product out there.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: But he's like, well, if you actually take time to dip into the county championships, yeah, there's some sensational.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, as I told all through the summer, I've been dipping into slightly championships with yourself, and I found it really engaging, really entertaining.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: You're looking and you're looking at the scenes here.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: You're looking at the scenes at halftime in that Tyrone final.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, the two oh sorry, the two two uh ultras.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: That was so funny.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: But that that's what a the games should be that.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: There should be uh there should be a bit of spectacle in foot.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: I remember sporting Galway back in 2001, and down in Castle Bar, wasn't it?
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: We played Ross Common, and there was a Mexican wave, like, and that's kind of gone a bit.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: So you love the bit of crack, and the teenager is getting into it more in the crack.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: And then Morgan, like like no better man than to give it to the crowd, like after he scored it and gets the ball over the bar, and it's you know, it's joyous scenes, and then you see you go back to you know the club scene, and you know, this is the model, like this is GA, this is what GA is all about, you know, the grassroots of it, and they're on the tractor and trailer going back, you know, going across the field and all the celebrations, all the guys are lined up, you know, the whole area, it's not a big area down there needing dork either.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: And to win their first ever championship, like it's just it's amazing scenes, it really is.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I again I I I clearly don't know every club uh championship around the country, but like Darr McCurry, Nile Morgan, and you say Conkilpatrick, like and then you think, well, surely that they'd have won a couple of years.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: I know it's crazy, isn't it?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: Just shows you the strength of football.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: Speaking of uh late on drama, the Galway final, uh, Salt Hill versus Mike Cullen.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: Crazy.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: And for anyone that didn't see it, Peter Cook, beautiful two-pointer.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I there was only seconds left, game over, and everyone's like, Oh, and there's a great video, I'm sure you've seen it, of the guy in the crutches on the on the terrace.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_01: Look it up, it was on maybe sports show.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: or somewhere.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: He's on the crutches, he's a Salt Hill uh supporter.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: He's wearing a green jersey, but I found it was an Ireland jersey.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, What is that's Mike Cullen?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: But he's sitting down, the crutches left against the pole, and then I'll come back, Peter Cook is a two-point turn, he's so despondent, and then down, and it was just a lovely play.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: And in fairness to Tom O'Kulhan, who's been in and out of the goal with team, and maybe the confidence wasn't always that high.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: He had a man free to just flick it across to, and he took on that shot through the defenders' legs, and it just found bottom corner, like you know, like the emotion and the buzz.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: And like he was only after coming on in the game, he turned he turned the game around for Salt Hill when he came back.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: One five was it in the total.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: And like Salt Hill running a lot of a lot of bother in the first first half of that game, why Cullen, where Salt Hill had the breeze, had no score on the board for 20 minutes.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: Toma comes on, uh, like tomorrow.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like I've seen him playing right good footballer.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: He played for Sligo, New York during the summer, he won a championship with them over in New York.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and um, you know, he gets that like you're talking about clutch moment, like John Maher, huge player for Galway, and obviously huge player for Salt Hill.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: He wins the kick out and then he gets his head up, kicks the ball, gives it to Magic Thompson, as they call it.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Magic Thompson flicks the ball inside to Tomo, who you know, you're talking about take the right option, flick the ball inside the ball.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: You were kind of going to I'm sure he has thought about it.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: If that didn't go in, yeah, I'd have been murdered like that.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: And it did, and there's the fairy tale ending.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, and like Mike Cullen, you know, will be wondering how they lost that.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: They really will, like, but at the same time, once Saul Hill got on top of them, they went away from them and they went six up after Mike Cullen had got a huge start in the opening half, and then Mike Cullen clutch it back and they bring it back, and Paul Kelly gets a great goal, and then obviously you mentioned Cook there with a monster two-pointer at the death, and then they're thinking it's it's it's game over, and you're on about that book on the crutches, like it's a miracle.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's a grass video to the and utterly goes berserk after it.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like and uh funny, Rob Finnerty obviously one of the star forwards in the country, and it was his younger brother, and his first name escapes me, who wrecks in a few great scores as well.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: And he had he had missed a few scores, uh, and then he still got a few clutch scores from on the way on the way.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: And it was, as I said, was just a one point win, it was huge, like you know.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but no, it was just one of those kind of magic moments, even if you're not absolutely mental about this off season series.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I I Traditionally, I wouldn't have watched mountains of but you kind of go hold on now a second, give it a chance.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like, and even I also to people, even try try your own club championship, or if you move to another county, get into it, like we did this summer.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like, and it was brilliant.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I mean there they were just two magic moments.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: I think Nemo won their first one after three county final defeats.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, they won it by what was it, 119 to 212.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: And Dr.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: Khmer.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, tight enough game as well, yeah.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: Dr.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: Croakes had had had a bit to spare over Kemmer.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: Khmer were in their their first final, um, which is which is crazy to think as well, like you know, but again, it shows the the power of club football and Kerry.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: And it Dr.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: Croakes obviously powerhouse down there and the the flex their muscles in in in that game.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: And in the Derry final, Maherafelt got across the line over Newbridge.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know, again, tough going down there.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: They'd lost a few finals in a row and to get out the right side of it there.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_01: And uh we'll give a hat to Navone Hurlers in Sligo here.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I might be what they had lost, had they lost a number of counterfinals in a row, is that correct?
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and East had were going for seven in a row.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay, and I and they came through.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: So look at well done to the team there.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: And that's again, very strong kind of St.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: Mary's contingent too, there, where that would be kind of based near that side of town.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: So well done to them.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: And then we're just a small little side story.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_01: Fim Barorty uh heading off to Australia.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, and like I kind of think this is a bit of a non-star, and maybe you think differently now, but like on if if a young lad is working in Ireland or a lady and they go, I'm going to move to America or Australia, it's like we can't stop them.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: No, you can't.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: I I I I'd love to know the argument of going, how do you do the compensation thing, or how does this work?
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: Because then next thing clubs could go, hold on, keep nurturing the young fellows, and we keep sending it off.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: And but you know, you're you're talking about that Rorty is is heading off.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: It was interesting that well, apparently and allegedly, the day that the news broke was the day that he told Jim McGuinness.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: He probably if if he had if he had told like obviously his home club, if he had told McGuinness this, like McGuinness is obviously he's had Rorty as as he was a young fella.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: He tried playing him when he was 17 for Johnny Gall.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: He got he got a slap in the knuckles for doing it because he wasn't allowed to play, he wasn't at the age to be playing.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure that if Jim had found this out, he would have been down at the door of the Roy's house trying to be roadblocks outside.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: And and and I pro I I would say the reason that Rorty didn't tell him is because he would have been convinced otherwise.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: And which is, you know, you're you're talking about compensation, and I know we're losing our you know, uh another best player that we have in the country because everybody loves watching film by Rorty playing football.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like what a what a genius on the pitch, like you know.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: But he's gone over to try you know Aussie rules as a professional sport, as a professional sports person.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: He's looking like he's not, you know, he's not going over there just for a holiday or you know, for a break from you know Donny Gall and he'll be back playing championship.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: He's going to give it a rattle and and see how he gets on.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure that uh I'm sure we'll be watching him playing Aussie rules for a number of years if he if he can continue on the upward curve.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: But like it does like I'm sure I'd love to know like how many of the top players in Ireland right now uh are getting at least asked.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like you imagine, like surely uh David Clifford has been asked somewhere along the line.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: Or n name any.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like sure, I'm sure like he was inundated with offers.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: And like it was an interesting interview done last week, you know, about stopping this, okay, and you know, the drain pool on the GEA, and you know, what are we gonna do and how are we gonna stop it?
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: And they're taking our our stars and like say the likes of Kobe is going and the likes of Finbell Rorty is going, like you know, like these Aussie rules guys uh have these guys earmarked from when they're 15, 16, 17.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's not that they're watching them in the shop window, you know, there's people talking about that the uh International Rules Series might be coming back, and people are against it because they're saying that they're going to get a chance to look at our top players.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: But that's waffle like it.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: The Aussie Rules guys know who the top up-and-coming fellas are from a young, young age, like and they're doing they're doing combines in around the country, you know, in DCU and this, and they're inviting players in.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: And if a fella has anything about him and he wants to give it a rattle, like like how can the GEA stop it?
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: This is a professional sport, this is you know, there's no way in any way, shape, or form that uh the GA can compete at this level.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I think the argument is there for that the Aussie guys need to be producing something to say, say the likes of Cross Melina there for Kobe leaving them, you know.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: They they should be putting something towards their grassroots level at that side of things that the Aussie's have an endless amount of money, like you know, and yeah, give them something to bring up their pool of talent coming up to nurture that talent along, you know, give them something in that side of things.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: I I can understand some way of going, but like what if one side of the country is getting all the players taken off them and then they get all the money?
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe there's like an underage train and academy funding that's goes into underage coaching across Ireland.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how you fix it, there's no right way to.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: I just think like you could literally have clubs going here, let's keep nurturing the young lads and send them off to us.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, like you go back to Finiborough Rotary, is probably very much in the similar mould to Ushi Mullen from Mayo, who went over there a few years ago, and Ushi Mullen was an exception for a excuse me now.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: Ushi Mullen was back here playing football.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: He was junior B or junior A or something.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: Scored two seven.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: Can you imagine marking him in a junior match?
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, the rumour mill was rife coming up to South Ireland final that Andy had touched base with him to see had he any interest in coming back.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: Ushi Mullen definitely had interest, but again, professional sports, his coach was like, Well, hold on a second, this guy is going to be marking A, B, and C over the next three games, so he isn't going anywhere next to Near Ireland to play in all Ireland final.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: But so, like, if Rorty is looking at the likes of Ushi Mullen over there making a living for himself as a professional sports person, and he would be thinking, I'm at the same level as him, or I can get to the same level as him at in the GEA world, why can't I do it in the Aussie Rules world as well?
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, and unf it's unfortunate for the likes of the of us who are who are gay like football fans and we won't get to see him.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: And but you might get to see him in a couple of years' time when he comes back, and I'm sure Ushi Mullen is probably thinking, you know, I'm after missing out on Ireland, there for Mayo.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and they're the there's the itch is there, like yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it like it'll be intriguing to see will the likes of him come back now and go, God, this team is but like it.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think Mayo are just a shoe in already.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: They're not even they're the third or fourth favourites next year, which is funny.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like now they've lost Kobe, like so.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe if Ushin comes in, so yeah, it'll be all be all be interesting to see.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: But no, look, I just thought it was an interesting thing that happened, and there was a bit of talk about it.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, before we just go, I just want to say it was Column Finerty that got 1-1 for Salt Hill.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: So obviously a big score for uh, and obviously his brother would be the main star, and that's probably yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: If you if if anybody said that Salt Hill will win the county final.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Is there a typo?
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: But no, my brother was telling me.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: And Tom O'Callan not starting and come on and get one six, he got like.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so no, look at it.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: Well done, well done to anyone that's won their county final this weekend.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so look, that's all for our GEA this week.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: We'll uh we'll we'll see what's going on next week.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, it's kind of a quieter time of the year uh this time of season for GA, but we'll we'll bring up the stories every so often.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: And obviously, keep an eye out for our Premier League pod.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: We've a rugby pod coming out as well.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so look at thanks for watching.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks, Jammer, and we will see you all next time.