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Mega Edition: The Goncalves Family And The Reward Offered In The Wake Of The Murders (9/5/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. Roughly
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Speaker 1: four months ago, we all woke up to the news
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Speaker 1: about a horrific quadruple murder that took place in Moscow, Idaho.
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Speaker 1: And ever since we got that news, this story has
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Speaker 1: absolutely blown up as well as it should. Anytime you
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Speaker 1: have a situation where four people are murdered in their
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Speaker 1: home while they're allegedly asleep, you know that's going to
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Speaker 1: draw the interest of the media and the country as
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Speaker 1: a whole. Then you add to that that it was
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Speaker 1: college kids who were murdered, and the authorities saying that
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Speaker 1: they don't have a suspect, and you have the recipe
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Speaker 1: for a story that is ready to explode. And that's
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Speaker 1: exactly what this story did. Not only was it national news,
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Speaker 1: this story blew up internationally as well. So today, on
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Speaker 1: this episode, we're going to dive into an article from
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Speaker 1: the Moscow Pullman Daily News and see where things currently
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Speaker 1: stand as of today. And to do that, we're going
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Speaker 1: to use an article that was authored by Anthony Kuypers. Headline,
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Speaker 1: Moscow murders what we know now. More information about suspect.
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Speaker 1: Case has been revealed in recent weeks, but questions remain.
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Speaker 1: That's an understatement. I don't know about you folks out there,
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Speaker 1: but I have more questions than answers. That's for damn sure.
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Speaker 1: And the more evidence we get, the more information we
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Speaker 1: get from unsealed documents and from different sources, the more
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Speaker 1: and more I'm convinced that Brian Kohlberger is the right guy.
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Speaker 1: Nearly four months since four University of Idaho students were
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Speaker 1: killed in a Moscow home, Information surrounding the case continues
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Speaker 1: to trickle out to the public. Brian Kohlberger, 28, faces
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Speaker 1: four counts of first-degree murder and one count of burglary
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Speaker 1: in the November stabbing deaths of University of Idaho students
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Speaker 1: Kaylee Gonsalves, Madison Mogan, Zanna Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin. Kohlberger
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Speaker 1: remains in Latah County Jail as he awaits his June
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Speaker 1: 26th preliminary hearing. While court officials and law enforcement remain
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Speaker 1: quiet about the case, because of a court-imposed non-dissemination order
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Speaker 1: or gag order, new developments about the suspect and the
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Speaker 1: case are being revealed. And that's how it works. It's
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Speaker 1: going to be a trickle of information, going to have
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Speaker 1: different sources cultivated by different media outlets, and we'll continue
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Speaker 1: to get a trickle of information that But as far
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Speaker 1: as anything consequential from behind the scenes, I highly doubt
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Speaker 1: we'll see any of that as long as this non-dissemination
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Speaker 1: order is in place. The search warrants. This past week,
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Speaker 1: recently unsealed documents describe what items police seized following the
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Speaker 1: December 30th arrest of Koberger at his family's home in
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Speaker 1: Chestnut Hill Township, Pennsylvania. Most notably, authorities recovered three knives,
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Speaker 1: including one described as a Smith & Wesson pocket knife
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Speaker 1: and another listed as a Taylor cutlery knife with a
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Speaker 1: leather sheath. The other knife did not have a description.
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Speaker 1: And that's interesting, right? What is the other knife that
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Speaker 1: they're not giving the description of? And why would they
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Speaker 1: give the description of the Taylor cutlery knife and the
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Speaker 1: Smith & Wesson pocket knife, but not this other knife? Now,
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's the murder weapon, because I
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Speaker 1: don't know, but it's pretty interesting that they refer to
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Speaker 1: those other knives by their brand names, but this one
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Speaker 1: is left blank and just generic. The four victims were
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Speaker 1: found stabbed to death, but it is unclear if any
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Speaker 1: of these recovered knives may have been the murder weapon.
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Speaker 1: While investigating the crime scene at the King Road home
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Speaker 1: in Moscow on November 13th, police found a sheath that
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Speaker 1: had K-Bar, USMC, and the United States Corps Eagle globe
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Speaker 1: and anchor insignia stamped on its outside. And the whole
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Speaker 1: sheath thing in itself is crazy. The fact that that
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Speaker 1: sheath was left there and they were able to pull
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Speaker 1: that touch DNA off of the clip is just crazy
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Speaker 1: to me. You would think that somebody would recognize that
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Speaker 1: they don't have their knife sheath anymore after they, you know,
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Speaker 1: tried to put the knife away. So what did he
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Speaker 1: run out of there with the knife stuck in his belt?
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Speaker 1: All of this stuff, all of these little questions that
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Speaker 1: I have, I cannot wait for the trial so that
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Speaker 1: we can get some answers. The Idaho State Lab later
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Speaker 1: found a single source of male DNA on the button
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Speaker 1: snap of the knife sheath. Police believe this is Coburger's
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Speaker 1: DNA after comparing it to DNA evidence police obtained from
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Speaker 1: the trash at Coburger's parents' house two days before he
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Speaker 1: was arrested. Pennsylvania authorities also recovered multiple dark clothing items,
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Speaker 1: including black masks. According to a probable cause affidavit detailing
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Speaker 1: the events leading to Coburger's arrest, A surviving roommate living
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Speaker 1: at the King Road home told Moscow police that she
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Speaker 1: saw a figure clad in black clothing and a mask
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Speaker 1: that covered the person's mouth and nose walking towards her
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Speaker 1: during the early morning hours when the four victims were killed.
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Speaker 1: And while she wasn't able to recognize Brian Koberger directly,
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Speaker 1: He certainly does fit the profile of the person that
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Speaker 1: the witness, the surviving roommate, says that they saw. And
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Speaker 1: then you add to it all of the other circumstantial
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Speaker 1: evidence that we see here, the black masks, the bushy eyebrows,
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Speaker 1: and you start to get to a place where it's
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Speaker 1: very hard to look at Brian Kohlberger, at least in
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Speaker 1: my opinion, as anything but the suspect who committed these crimes.
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Speaker 1: Other items found during the search in Monroe County include
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Speaker 1: a cell phone, a laptop, and a. 40 caliber Glock
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Speaker 1: 22 Generation 5, along with empty. 40 caliber magazines. Police
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Speaker 1: have never indicated that a gun was used during the homicides,
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Speaker 1: and I don't think a gun was used. I've said
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Speaker 1: that a lot, but I do believe that he had
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Speaker 1: a gun on him. If you're going to commit murder
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Speaker 1: like this, kill four people with a knife, or even
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Speaker 1: one person with a knife, you would think that having
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Speaker 1: a firearm would be a great redundancy, right? And if
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Speaker 1: he had a firearm that was in his possession, why
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Speaker 1: wouldn't he bring it with him to this crime scene?
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Speaker 1: So it always made sense to me that the person
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Speaker 1: who did this would have a firearm on them to
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Speaker 1: make sure that if anything went sideways, that they'd be
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Speaker 1: prepared and ready to act if they needed to. In January,
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Speaker 1: Whitman County unsealed the document listing the items police seized
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Speaker 1: at Koberger's Pullman Home. That evidence includes one nitrile-type black glove,
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Speaker 1: multiple hair strands, including one possibly from an animal, receipts
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Speaker 1: from Walmart and Marshalls, a dust container from a vacuum,
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Speaker 1: a computer tower, a dark spot, two cuttings from an
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Speaker 1: uncased pillow showing a reddish-brown stain, and two mattress covers
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Speaker 1: with multiple stains. Kohlberger's white Hyundai Elantra was also seized
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Speaker 1: at his parents' home. According to the probable cause affidavit,
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Speaker 1: police used video footage of white Hyundai Elantra and Kohlberger's
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Speaker 1: cell phone data to track his alleged movements before and
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Speaker 1: after the November 13th murders. And while obviously a lot
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Speaker 1: of that cell phone data is circumstantial, we all just
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Speaker 1: saw what happened with Alec Murdaugh and the cell phone
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Speaker 1: data that they compiled to use against him. So there
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Speaker 1: are certainly a lot of similarities in that regard when
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Speaker 1: we're talking about Alec Murdaugh and Brian Kohlberger, considering all
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Speaker 1: of the circumstantial evidence that was used to convict Alec Murdaugh.
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Speaker 1: And then you flip that around and you look at
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Speaker 1: the evidence we have here and it's just as strong,
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Speaker 1: if not stronger. Kohlberger and Washington State University. Media reports
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Speaker 1: revealed that Koberger, a former Washington State University Ph.D. student,
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Speaker 1: was investigated by the university and fired from his teaching
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Speaker 1: assistant job around the time of the murders. And we
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Speaker 1: all seen the slide start to happen. Brian Koberger obviously
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Speaker 1: was starting to rock bottom at this point in time.
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Speaker 1: The New York Times reported that some female students told
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Speaker 1: professors Koberger made them feel uncomfortable, including one instance where
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Speaker 1: he was accused of following a female to her car. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: just absolutely normal behavior. What kind of disgusting moron is
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Speaker 1: following anyone to their car? While the university's investigation did
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Speaker 1: not find any wrongdoing in this matter, Koberger was penalized
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Speaker 1: for alleged altercations with a faculty member. He allegedly had
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Speaker 1: two altercations with a Washington State University professor he was
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Speaker 1: assisting in September and in early December. For these incidents,
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Speaker 1: Koberger was fired from his teaching assistant role on December
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Speaker 1: 19th before his arrest. He is no longer enrolled at
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Speaker 1: the Washington State University. The New York Times previously reported
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Speaker 1: that students had complained about Koberger's harsh grading resulting in
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Speaker 1: a classroom discussion. where he tried to defend the feedback
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Speaker 1: he provided students. The probable cause affidavit revealed that Koberger
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Speaker 1: applied for an internship with the Pullman Police Department last
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Speaker 1: fall because he had an interest in assisting rural law
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Speaker 1: enforcement with collecting and analyzing technological data in public safety operations.
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Speaker 1: He also posted a Reddit survey asking participants to provide
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Speaker 1: information to understand how emotions and psychological traits influence decision-making
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Speaker 1: when committing a crime. While more information about Koberger has
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Speaker 1: been gathered in the past two months, the question of
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Speaker 1: motive persists. It is still unclear why Kurnodal, Chapin, Gonsalves,
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Speaker 1: and Mogan were targeted. Officials have yet to release information
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Speaker 1: about what reasons Koberger may have had to allegedly enter
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Speaker 1: the King Road home on November 13th. Well, the working
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Speaker 1: assumption here on the podcast is he was going after Madison.
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Speaker 1: And that was his target, and things just happened to
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Speaker 1: go south for him. He didn't expect Kaylee to be there,
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Speaker 1: and then once she was there, Everything spun out of control.
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Speaker 1: Went downstairs, Hannah was still awake, ended up killing her
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Speaker 1: and Ethan in what I'm guessing was not part of
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Speaker 1: the plan. So Brian Kohlberger's original plan, remember, at least
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Speaker 1: as far as it looks like anyway, was to get
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Speaker 1: into that house and have some time alone with Madison.
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Speaker 1: And once those plans were thwarted, well, we see his reaction.
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Speaker 1: The court case. Recent media reports have brought up concerns
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Speaker 1: about whether Kohlberger's attorney, Ann Taylor, represents a conflict of interest.
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Speaker 1: Taylor met with Kohlberger, Latah County Magistrate Judge Megan Marshall,
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Speaker 1: and Latah County Deputy Prosecutor Ashley Jennings on January 27th
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Speaker 1: to discuss this issue during a status hearing. According to
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Speaker 1: recently unsealed court documents, the media brought attention to two
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Speaker 1: cases where the Kootenai County Public Defender's Office said represented
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Speaker 1: Kernodle's mother, Kara Kernodle. Taylor is the chief of the
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Speaker 1: Kootenai County Public Defender's Office. Taylor said that her name
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Speaker 1: appears on every document in the Public Defender's Office, whether
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Speaker 1: she is the acting attorney in the case or not.
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Speaker 1: Taylor indicated that she does not believe that there is
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Speaker 1: a conflict of interest. And when you look at the
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Speaker 1: overall For me anyway, the only problem here is the
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Speaker 1: fact that Brian Koberger can try and sink his teeth
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Speaker 1: into it during an appeal. But if there's a waiver
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Speaker 1: that has been signed, and everybody's aware of that, he
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Speaker 1: can try and maneuver that way maybe, but I don't
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Speaker 1: think it'll work out. So as long as all of
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Speaker 1: those parameters are met, and with all of the new
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Speaker 1: context we have learned, I don't think that there's an
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Speaker 1: issue with a conflict of interest here at all. Koberger stated,
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Speaker 1: during the status hearing that he feels comfortable with Taylor
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Speaker 1: continuing to be his attorney. The unsealed documents have become
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Speaker 1: the primary source of official information about this court case
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Speaker 1: as a gag order has prohibited attorneys and law enforcement
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Speaker 1: from speaking about it publicly. And that's why we're doing
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Speaker 1: all of those court documents. Usually not my MO here
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Speaker 1: on the podcast. We usually just go about it by
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Speaker 1: following along with the media cycle. But in this case,
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Speaker 1: with the gag order, we have to dig a little
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Speaker 1: bit deeper and we have to make sure that we're
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Speaker 1: following along with what's happening as well as we can
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Speaker 1: anyway behind the scenes. A coalition of media organizations that
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Speaker 1: includes the Moscow Pullman Daily News and the Lewiston Tribune
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Speaker 1: filed a petition with the Idaho Supreme Court to vacate
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Speaker 1: Latah County's gag order on the belief it violates the
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Speaker 1: First Amendment and the ability to provide the public with
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Speaker 1: important information about the justice system. The Gonsalves family attorney,
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Speaker 1: Shannon Gray, earlier this month, also filed a motion arguing
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Speaker 1: that he should be allowed to express the Gonsalves family's
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Speaker 1: opinions and should not be included in the gag order.
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Speaker 1: The Latah County Prosecutor's Office and Koberger's attorneys maintain that
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Speaker 1: the gag order is necessary to protect Koberger and his
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Speaker 1: right to a fair and impartial trial in a highly
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Speaker 1: publicized case. And they're not wrong, But there has to
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Speaker 1: be a balance there. And I don't know if that
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Speaker 1: balance is being met by the court with this restrictive
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Speaker 1: gag order. Now, a gag order in general is not
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Speaker 1: a bad idea here. But remember, the scope of this
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Speaker 1: one is very, very broad. All parties involved have been
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Speaker 1: filing documents stating their arguments with the Idaho Supreme Court
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Speaker 1: since February 6th. An attempt at healing. The University of
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Speaker 1: Idaho recently announced two symbolic attempts to heal from this tragedy.
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Speaker 1: A memo from UI president Scott Green said the owner
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Speaker 1: of the King Road home has offered to give the
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Speaker 1: house to the university. Green said the UI plans to
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Speaker 1: demolish the house, an act he believes will serve as
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Speaker 1: a healing step for the community. Yeah, it's the best bet.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't keep this house there. We talked
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Speaker 1: about all of the knuckleheads showing up there to take
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Speaker 1: a look and just the general feel overall. Who the
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Speaker 1: hell would want to live there? Demolition also removes efforts
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Speaker 1: to further sensationalize the crime scene, he said. We are
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Speaker 1: evaluating options where students may be involved in the future
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Speaker 1: development of the property. UI spokesperson Jody Walker said the
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Speaker 1: school hopes to demolish the house as soon as possible,
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Speaker 1: and that could be in the next few weeks. She
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Speaker 1: said the Moscow Police Department is fully aware of this plan.
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Speaker 1: The UI is also planning a memorial and garden to
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Speaker 1: honor the four victims. Green said the plan is being
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Speaker 1: developed by a committee with student representation. The project will
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Speaker 1: incorporate class and individual student participation. The gardens location on
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Speaker 1: campus has not yet been determined. Scholarships have been created
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Speaker 1: in memory of Kernodle, Chapin, and Mogan. The UI is
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Speaker 1: working with the Gonsalves family to develop a fourth scholarship
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Speaker 1: in her name. All right, so there we have it, folks,
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Speaker 1: a quick update on where things currently stand as of today. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is one of those stories that's evolving quickly and
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Speaker 1: one of those stories that's going to continue to evolve
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Speaker 1: in the days, weeks, and months to come. And we'll
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Speaker 1: be here for every single bit of it. All right, everybody,
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Speaker 1: that's going to do it for this one. All of
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Speaker 1: the information that goes with the episode can be found
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Speaker 1: in the description box. And welcome back to the program.
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Speaker 1: It has been now a month since the four students
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Speaker 1: in Moscow, Idaho were murdered while they slept. Now the
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Speaker 1: family of one of those murdered students, Kaylee Gonsalves, is
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Speaker 1: raising money so that the family can offer a reward
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Speaker 1: for any information leading to the capture of the person
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Speaker 1: or persons responsible for what happened. Now the authorities themselves
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Speaker 1: have not put a reward out yet, And they say
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Speaker 1: that's because they're still receiving a ton of tips. And
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Speaker 1: they don't feel like a reward is necessary at this point. However,
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Speaker 1: if you're the family of Kaylee Gonsalves or one of
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Speaker 1: these other murdered students, you probably have a different outlook.
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Speaker 1: I know if it was my loved one, I'd want
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Speaker 1: a reward put out too. Now, obviously, the police, they
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Speaker 1: have other ideas. They have a different game plan that
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Speaker 1: they're following. and a game plan that they think is
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Speaker 1: going to lead them to victory. But if you're one
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Speaker 1: of the family members, a father, a mother, you want
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Speaker 1: to feel like you're doing something to try and help
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Speaker 1: move the ball forward. You don't want to just sit
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Speaker 1: there and twiddle your thumbs and wait for information to
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Speaker 1: come rolling your way. I know I'd be on some
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Speaker 1: other shit too. I'd be exploring every possibility to try
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Speaker 1: and find justice for my child, whether that be hiring
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Speaker 1: a private investigator or raising money for a reward, whatever
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Speaker 1: it takes. And I'm sure that's how the family members
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Speaker 1: feel right now, especially the Gonsalves. They're not going to
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Speaker 1: sit around and just wait for information. They feel like
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Speaker 1: they have to be proactive here. And I don't know
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Speaker 1: how anyone can sit around and judge them for being proactive. Remember,
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Speaker 1: it was their daughter, their sister, their loved one that
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Speaker 1: was murdered. And they want answers. Now, on the flip
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Speaker 1: side of that, we understand that these investigations, they take time.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen overnight. You have to go through all
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Speaker 1: of the DNA, you have to put all the test
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Speaker 1: results together, and you have to build a nice, large,
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Speaker 1: robust picture of what went on. So that takes some time.
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Speaker 1: But according to the family members, Steve Gonsalves especially, he
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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like the time that's being put in is
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Speaker 1: being managed correctly. So him and his family believe that
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Speaker 1: they'll be better served if there is a reward that
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Speaker 1: is being offered for information. So that seems to be
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Speaker 1: the game plan from the Gonsalves as they move forward
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Speaker 1: here and try and come to terms with what happened
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Speaker 1: and get some justice for their daughter. Today's article is
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Speaker 1: from Fox News. Headline, Idaho victims family raising funds for
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Speaker 1: award money as campus murders enter four weeks with no arrests.
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Speaker 1: Kaylee Gonsalves family is hoping to raise money to offer
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Speaker 1: as a reward for information that helps crack The University
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Speaker 1: of Idaho Quadruple Homicide. This article was authored by Michael Ruiz. Now,
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Speaker 1: we all know money talks. And if somebody's out there
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Speaker 1: with some information and they're hesitant on coming forward as
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Speaker 1: of now, you would think maybe a few bucks might
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Speaker 1: grease the wheels a bit and get them moving in
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Speaker 1: a direction to speak to the authorities. And I would
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Speaker 1: think that the authorities would have already put a reward out. Now,
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Speaker 1: of course, there's people that will say, They're not at
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Speaker 1: a point yet where they need a reward. They have
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Speaker 1: all these tips coming in and a reward will just
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Speaker 1: be counterproductive at this point and have all the crazies
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Speaker 1: calling in. Well, breaking news, all of the crazies are
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Speaker 1: already calling in. The family of one of the four
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Speaker 1: University of Idaho victims killed in a shocking home invasion
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Speaker 1: attack last month is looking to raise reward money for
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Speaker 1: information in the case as the investigation hits the four-week
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Speaker 1: mark without an arrest or publicly identified suspects and the
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Speaker 1: longer this goes the more days that pass the more
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Speaker 1: I'm convinced that they're looking for some sort of random here.
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Speaker 1: I won't dive down the road of speculation as in, oh,
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Speaker 1: who did it, but the kind of person that might
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Speaker 1: have done it. It's starting to look to me like
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Speaker 1: it was some sort of random attack here. Now, they
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Speaker 1: might have been targeted, like the police say, but when
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Speaker 1: I say random... I mean someone that wasn't in their circle,
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Speaker 1: somebody that they didn't know. Perhaps somebody who saw Kaylee
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Speaker 1: and Madison at work at that mad Greek place. That
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Speaker 1: place is right there on Highway 95. How many transient
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Speaker 1: truckers have cruised through that place? How many just crazies
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Speaker 1: in general driving through, heading to wherever on US 95
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Speaker 1: that runs all the way down to Las Vegas, by
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Speaker 1: the way? I mean, how many people have passed by
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Speaker 1: there or were at that restaurant while they were working? Now,
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Speaker 1: of course, I have no proof to back that up.
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Speaker 1: But as boxes get checked off and we start going
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Speaker 1: through the motions here of saying that people in their
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Speaker 1: circle weren't involved, well, it has to be somebody who
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Speaker 1: did this, right? And if it wasn't somebody in their
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Speaker 1: circle or their atmosphere, then we have to start looking
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Speaker 1: at all corners. And with these girls working at this
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Speaker 1: restaurant that was located right there on the 95, there
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Speaker 1: has to have been a ton of traffic moving in
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Speaker 1: and out from that restaurant's parking lot and that restaurant itself.
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Speaker 1: Our family would like to fundraise in hopes to offer
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Speaker 1: a reward and possibly hire a private investigator if that
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Speaker 1: becomes necessary. Christy Gonsalves, the mother of 21-year-old Kaylee Gonsalves,
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Speaker 1: told Fox News Digital on Sunday. her daughter, and three friends,
21:33
Speaker 1: Madison Mogan, Zanna Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin, were killed in
21:37
Speaker 1: a rental house on King Road just steps off campus
21:40
Speaker 1: between 3 a.m. and 4 a.m. on November 13th. Now,
21:45
Speaker 1: I have seen some pushback against this from some people
21:48
Speaker 1: about the private investigator and how a private investigator really
21:51
Speaker 1: won't help. And I'm kind of on the fence about that.
21:55
Speaker 1: I know that a private investigator doesn't have any real power.
21:58
Speaker 1: But if you can hire a quality private investigator, maybe
22:02
Speaker 1: to work as a liaison and help go over some
22:05
Speaker 1: of the information given to you by the police, that
22:09
Speaker 1: might help out. Or a private investigator that might have
22:12
Speaker 1: a good working relationship with the authorities, maybe to help manage,
22:16
Speaker 1: you know, how things are coming in. That'll help out maybe.
22:20
Speaker 1: But I think the most important thing, at least in
22:23
Speaker 1: my opinion, would be to hire a lawyer and not
22:26
Speaker 1: to sue anybody. but just to make sure everything is
22:30
Speaker 1: being done correctly. Making sure you're not saying anything out
22:34
Speaker 1: of line, making sure all of the steps are being followed,
22:37
Speaker 1: all in the hopes of bringing justice to the people
22:40
Speaker 1: or person who killed your daughter. And I think having
22:43
Speaker 1: a lawyer, anytime you're dealing with the authorities, whether you're
22:47
Speaker 1: in trouble or not, is a very, very good idea.
22:53
Speaker 1: All four had been stabbed to death, according to Latah
22:55
Speaker 1: County Coroner Kathy Mabbitt, likely attacked in their sleep. Toxicology
23:00
Speaker 1: reports for the victims have not yet come back. To
23:04
Speaker 1: raise funds, the family is supporting a pair of online fundraisers,
23:08
Speaker 1: a GoFundMe set up by Goncalves' former boss, Jeremiah Shea,
23:14
Speaker 1: and a GiveSendGo campaign from a family friend named Brooke Miller,
23:18
Speaker 1: Christy Goncalves said. The money raised will go directly to
23:21
Speaker 1: getting us answers, as well as helping to pay for
23:24
Speaker 1: Kaylee's final arrangements and her celebration of life On December 30th,
23:28
Speaker 1: she added, the family had previously held off on announcing
23:33
Speaker 1: memorial plans. Now remember, her mom didn't want to have
23:37
Speaker 1: a funeral because she thought that the killer might want
23:40
Speaker 1: to show up. And imagine trying to lay your daughter
23:44
Speaker 1: to rest and thinking that the person who was responsible
23:47
Speaker 1: for murdering her would show up at the funeral itself?
23:53
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not bad enough that you're, you know,
23:55
Speaker 1: sitting here burying your daughter. Now you got to worry
23:58
Speaker 1: about all of the people who might show up and
24:00
Speaker 1: if one of them might be the killer. That's not
24:03
Speaker 1: something any parent should have to go through. And I
24:06
Speaker 1: have so much empathy for all of these parents who
24:09
Speaker 1: lost children here and who are going through all kinds
24:12
Speaker 1: of wild stuff now. If you're somebody out there who
24:15
Speaker 1: thinks it's a good idea to try and troll grieving
24:18
Speaker 1: parents or anyone who is suffering for any reason, really,
24:23
Speaker 1: then you should probably give your head a shake and
24:27
Speaker 1: reevaluate your priorities in life. Because this isn't just some
24:31
Speaker 1: fake screenplay. This isn't a lifetime movie. These are real
24:35
Speaker 1: people that are going through it. And these are real
24:39
Speaker 1: people who have lost loved ones and they're grieving severely.
24:43
Speaker 1: Family had previously held off on announcing memorial plans. When
24:47
Speaker 1: asked about the lack of reward Saturday, police told Fox
24:50
Speaker 1: Digital they were already receiving a steady supply of information
24:54
Speaker 1: in the case. Investigators continue to get good tips and
24:58
Speaker 1: leads and are focusing on those at this time, police
25:02
Speaker 1: spokeswoman Robbie Johnson told Fox News Digital. So they're getting
25:06
Speaker 1: all of these leads, they say, and they're good leads,
25:09
Speaker 1: but it has led to nothing. Now there's people out
25:13
Speaker 1: there I know that are saying, well, What about the
25:15
Speaker 1: work that's going on behind the scenes? And absolutely, there's
25:18
Speaker 1: a ton of that going on. But here are the facts.
25:21
Speaker 1: As far as we're concerned, as far as the families
25:24
Speaker 1: are concerned, there has been no movement here. There has
25:28
Speaker 1: been no steps towards victory. All we have so far
25:32
Speaker 1: is the report of a white Hyundai Elantra. In one month,
25:36
Speaker 1: that is all the information, the only break that the
25:39
Speaker 1: police have given to the public. Now, again, that doesn't
25:42
Speaker 1: mean that they're not working on something behind the scenes
25:45
Speaker 1: or that they don't have something cooking. But until they
25:48
Speaker 1: have something concrete that they share with the public, there
25:51
Speaker 1: is going to be questions and there's going to be
25:53
Speaker 1: criticism of what's going on up in Moscow. After they
26:00
Speaker 1: asked the public for help finding the occupant or occupants
26:03
Speaker 1: of a white 2011-2013 Hyundai Elantra seen near the victim's
26:08
Speaker 1: home around the time of the slayings, Local police said
26:11
Speaker 1: they received such a deluge of calls that they asked
26:14
Speaker 1: the FBI to handle them. And we've talked about that.
26:18
Speaker 1: They have a tip line set up that goes directly
26:20
Speaker 1: to the FBI now. And the FBI is going through
26:23
Speaker 1: handling all of these tips about the white Hyundai Elantra. Now,
26:28
Speaker 1: another thing about that Hyundai Elantra, if it was a
26:30
Speaker 1: vehicle that was known to them or known to people
26:34
Speaker 1: in their social circle, we would have already known about it, right?
26:37
Speaker 1: they would have already been like, oh yeah, so-and-so owns
26:39
Speaker 1: this vehicle. We see it around campus all the time,
26:43
Speaker 1: but we haven't heard any of that. And we haven't
26:45
Speaker 1: heard any scuttlebutt either about their might, that they have
26:48
Speaker 1: a suspect behind the scenes or anything. And usually when
26:52
Speaker 1: you have a case like this, this sprawling with this
26:54
Speaker 1: many people involved and they have something cooking behind the scenes,
26:58
Speaker 1: we get a little bit of a hint of that.
27:00
Speaker 1: There's always a leak or two. Somebody has something to
27:02
Speaker 1: say to the media off the record, but we haven't
27:05
Speaker 1: heard nothing like that here. The Global Call Center has
27:10
Speaker 1: the resources to take those calls, categorize them, and send
27:14
Speaker 1: them on to investigators so they can utilize those tips
27:17
Speaker 1: in the investigation, the Moscow Police Department said on Thursday.
27:21
Speaker 1: Outside experts with experience in similar investigations have told Fox
27:26
Speaker 1: News Digital that the earlier a reward is offered, the better,
27:30
Speaker 1: especially when the number of investigators assigned to the task
27:33
Speaker 1: force will shrink over time. And that's just the reality. Eventually,
27:38
Speaker 1: there's not going to be as many people working this case.
27:42
Speaker 1: And for all the people out there that are yelling
27:45
Speaker 1: to the moon about how you got to let the
27:47
Speaker 1: investigators do their work, well, what happens when we get
27:50
Speaker 1: to the point where these investigators start going to work
27:53
Speaker 1: other cases? And then you only have, what, five or
27:56
Speaker 1: six people working on this case? Because that's how it
28:00
Speaker 1: ends up. Now, I'm not saying that's where we're at yet,
28:03
Speaker 1: but eventually, if there's no break in a case... you
28:07
Speaker 1: have to start ramping down the manpower. And that's just
28:10
Speaker 1: the reality of something like this. I would give out
28:15
Speaker 1: the reward now while they still have the personnel, said
28:18
Speaker 1: Paul Morrow, a lawyer and retired NYPD inspector who has
28:22
Speaker 1: closely been following the case. When it starts to dwindle,
28:25
Speaker 1: is no time to put out a reward. You won't
28:28
Speaker 1: have the bodies to investigate the tips. Pat Diaz, a
28:31
Speaker 1: private investigator and former Miami-Dade homicide detective, worked a high-profile
28:37
Speaker 1: child murder in the 1990s that resulted in an arrest
28:40
Speaker 1: and conviction after one such tip came in. I know
28:44
Speaker 1: it sounds crazy and it sounds simple, but we all
28:47
Speaker 1: know that money moves the world. And if somebody has
28:50
Speaker 1: a few fazools on the line, they're a little more
28:52
Speaker 1: motivated maybe to speak to the police. So I don't
28:55
Speaker 1: know why they wouldn't offer a reward. One lucky lead
29:01
Speaker 1: with all these sleuths out there is going to help
29:03
Speaker 1: you solve the case, he told Fox News Digital. Months
29:06
Speaker 1: after Jimmy Rice was abducted on his way home from
29:09
Speaker 1: school in 1995, the eventual suspect's landlady and employer grew
29:14
Speaker 1: suspicious that he'd stolen from her. When she searched his trailer,
29:17
Speaker 1: she found the missing boy's backpack inside and her missing gun,
29:21
Speaker 1: which had been used to kill the boy. She had
29:24
Speaker 1: also seen a flyer with police contact information on it,
29:27
Speaker 1: he said, and she called in the tip. And again, look,
29:30
Speaker 1: I've said this from the beginning. It's going to be
29:32
Speaker 1: a tip from the public that ends up having a
29:35
Speaker 1: break in this case. The investigators can only do what
29:38
Speaker 1: they can do, and they can only use it. use
29:40
Speaker 1: what evidence is present. And if there's no evidence present
29:43
Speaker 1: leading them to the person who did this, then they're
29:46
Speaker 1: going to have to rely on tips. Juan Carlos Chavez, 46,
29:53
Speaker 1: was arrested. He confessed, led police to the boy's body,
29:57
Speaker 1: and was later executed. Separately, Police have warned online sleuths
30:01
Speaker 1: following the case to avoid speculation, especially if it leads
30:05
Speaker 1: to threats and harassment. Look, that's crazy. Avoid speculation? How
30:11
Speaker 1: are you going to tell people on the internet to
30:13
Speaker 1: avoid speculation? Now, harassing people, talking about people by their
30:20
Speaker 1: government name, probably not the best idea you've ever had.
30:24
Speaker 1: And if you're out there doing that, my suggestion, for
30:27
Speaker 1: what it's worth, is don't do it. Let the investigators
30:31
Speaker 1: handle the investigatory work. Now, if people want to have
30:34
Speaker 1: speculation and people want to discuss what they think happened,
30:37
Speaker 1: you know, here in the case that, you know, on
30:39
Speaker 1: the Internet, I don't know how you're going to do that.
30:42
Speaker 1: And if Moscow police thinks they're going to stop rumor
30:45
Speaker 1: and speculation on the Internet, it must be their first
30:48
Speaker 1: day because it's never going to happen. Investigators have been
30:53
Speaker 1: monitoring online activity related to this ongoing and active case
30:58
Speaker 1: and are aware of the large amount of rumors and
31:00
Speaker 1: misinformation being shared, as well as harassing and threatening behavior
31:04
Speaker 1: toward potentially involved parties. Moscow police said in a statement
31:08
Speaker 1: on Friday afternoon, the University of Idaho held a fall
31:12
Speaker 1: commencement ceremony Saturday, holding a moment of silence in memory
31:16
Speaker 1: of the victims before new graduates walked. Following the slayings,
31:20
Speaker 1: the school has reopened distance learning for students who may
31:23
Speaker 1: be reluctant to return to campus under the circumstances. Look,
31:29
Speaker 1: if it was me, and this was my kid, my daughter,
31:31
Speaker 1: my son, I'd be offering a reward as well. And
31:35
Speaker 1: I completely understand why the Gonsalves would want to do that.
31:38
Speaker 1: Now the private investigator part, again, I'm not so sold
31:42
Speaker 1: on that. I don't know how much help that will
31:44
Speaker 1: be at this point. But a lawyer? 100%. If I
31:48
Speaker 1: was any of these families, I would retain a lawyer's
31:51
Speaker 1: services and have them help me through all of the
31:54
Speaker 1: nonsense and the BS that comes along with a police investigation.
32:00
Speaker 1: Anytime you're dealing with the authorities, anytime, it is a
32:03
Speaker 1: good idea to have legal advice. All right, folks, that's
32:07
Speaker 1: going to do it for this one. If you'd like
32:09
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32:13
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32:20
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32:27
Speaker 1: can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
32:31
Speaker 1: and welcome back to the program. One of the questions
32:37
Speaker 1: that's on everybody's mind who's following the murders in Moscow
32:41
Speaker 1: is when will this case be solved? Obviously, we all
32:46
Speaker 1: want it solved yesterday, but the reality is this is
32:50
Speaker 1: an expansive crime scene with a lot of evidence for
32:53
Speaker 1: the investigators to go through. And we've talked a little
32:57
Speaker 1: bit about the DNA and how much of it has
33:00
Speaker 1: been collected and how it's going to take time for
33:03
Speaker 1: that all to be processed. And I know it's not
33:07
Speaker 1: what everybody wants to hear. It's certainly not what I
33:09
Speaker 1: want to hear. But it takes time to work through this. Now,
33:14
Speaker 1: with that said, I would hope that everything gets expedited.
33:19
Speaker 1: In the morning update, I was talking about maybe bringing
33:21
Speaker 1: in some mobile labs, some stuff like that, to try
33:24
Speaker 1: and get things moving at a faster clip here. But
33:27
Speaker 1: there are only so many resources available. I understand that.
33:30
Speaker 1: The rest of the world is moving. There's other cases
33:34
Speaker 1: that need to be solved. There's other homicides happening right
33:37
Speaker 1: now as we speak. But with all of the resources
33:41
Speaker 1: that have been thrown at this already, I think that
33:44
Speaker 1: a couple of mobile labs to go through the DNA
33:47
Speaker 1: might be a good idea. And I know that that's possible.
33:51
Speaker 1: I know the FBI definitely brings out mobile labs all
33:55
Speaker 1: the time. We've seen it in foreign countries when there's
33:58
Speaker 1: been terrorist attacks. So, you know, they're capable of doing that.
34:02
Speaker 1: The question is, Are those resources available for something like this?
34:06
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I would hope so, but I
34:09
Speaker 1: don't know. And I know that all of the labs
34:15
Speaker 1: that work with the police in Idaho, they're working double
34:19
Speaker 1: time right now to try and process all of this stuff.
34:22
Speaker 1: So we have to have some patience. There's no doubt
34:24
Speaker 1: about that. But that patience is going to wear thin
34:29
Speaker 1: if there's no progress. And that's just the nature of
34:32
Speaker 1: how these investigations work. Even the people that are backing
34:35
Speaker 1: the investigators, well, when this keeps dragging on and on
34:39
Speaker 1: and on, they end up losing hope. And we saw
34:42
Speaker 1: that in the Delphi case in spades. We saw people
34:45
Speaker 1: basically just lose hope altogether. And then finally, there was
34:49
Speaker 1: a huge break in the case. And I expect that
34:52
Speaker 1: to happen here. Now, hopefully it doesn't take as long,
34:55
Speaker 1: but I do expect there to be a break at
34:57
Speaker 1: some point. And if there were multiple people involved, that
35:01
Speaker 1: break should come sooner because we all know people can't
35:04
Speaker 1: keep secrets. And if you're going to commit a crime,
35:07
Speaker 1: you better do that shit yourself because eventually somebody is
35:10
Speaker 1: going to rat on you. If it's your best interest
35:12
Speaker 1: or their best interest, who do you think they're going
35:15
Speaker 1: to choose? So that's another reason why I think that
35:19
Speaker 1: our award here would be a fantastic idea. We all
35:22
Speaker 1: know that money talks. And we all know that some
35:24
Speaker 1: people are not going to come forward just because they're
35:27
Speaker 1: good people or because they want to do the right thing.
35:30
Speaker 1: They have to be motivated to do that. And what
35:33
Speaker 1: better motivation than a fat pot of gold at the
35:36
Speaker 1: end of the rainbow? Today's article is from Newsweek. Headline,
35:42
Speaker 1: former FBI agent explains why Idaho murder case may take
35:46
Speaker 1: longer to solve. This article was authored by Matthew Impelli.
35:54
Speaker 1: As the University of Idaho murder investigation continues, a former
35:58
Speaker 1: FBI agent recently spoke to Newsweek about why the case
36:02
Speaker 1: may take longer to solve. On November 13th, four University
36:07
Speaker 1: of Idaho students, Kaylee Gonsalves, Madison Mogan, Ethan Chapin, and
36:12
Speaker 1: Zanna Kernodle, were fatally stabbed in an off-campus residence by
36:16
Speaker 1: an unknown perpetrator. The Moscow Police Department is currently leading
36:21
Speaker 1: the investigation with assistance from the FBI and and the
36:24
Speaker 1: Idaho State Police, but no suspect or person of interest
36:28
Speaker 1: has been identified at this point. Usually when we have
36:32
Speaker 1: a case like this, or some kind of mass murder,
36:36
Speaker 1: it doesn't take long to track down who was responsible.
36:40
Speaker 1: There's some kind of evidence, surveillance, there was beef, there
36:43
Speaker 1: was a gripe, you could trace it back on social media,
36:47
Speaker 1: and usually it doesn't take the police or the investigators
36:50
Speaker 1: long to piece it all together. But this is something
36:52
Speaker 1: very different, obviously. This isn't your usual run-of-the-mill murder. Four
36:58
Speaker 1: college students murdered in their sleep with a knife? Not
37:02
Speaker 1: exactly your run-of-the-mill murder. According to police, investigators have received
37:10
Speaker 1: thousands of tips from the public and have also recovered
37:13
Speaker 1: over 100 pieces of evidence from the 1122 King Road residence.
37:18
Speaker 1: Over 250 interviews have also been conducted, police said. I
37:22
Speaker 1: wonder how many of those over 250 interviews were repeat interviews,
37:28
Speaker 1: meaning people that came back multiple times to sit down
37:31
Speaker 1: with investigators. Now, obviously, we're not going to get that information,
37:35
Speaker 1: but that would certainly, at the very least, give us
37:38
Speaker 1: an idea who the police are talking to more than
37:41
Speaker 1: other people, maybe. Not that that means anything, really. I mean,
37:45
Speaker 1: we can speculate on it or theorize on it. But
37:48
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we don't know what
37:50
Speaker 1: the police are saying to these people in these interviews.
37:53
Speaker 1: And we don't know what these people are saying back
37:55
Speaker 1: to the police. While speaking with Newsweek on Wednesday, former
38:01
Speaker 1: FBI agent Jennifer Kofendaffer explained that this case is not
38:04
Speaker 1: cold at all, but noted that as the investigation continues,
38:08
Speaker 1: more and more evidence will be looked at, which takes time.
38:12
Speaker 1: And I agree with her that this case isn't cold.
38:15
Speaker 1: but it certainly is in jeopardy of moving that way
38:18
Speaker 1: if there's no progress. I mean, getting all of these
38:21
Speaker 1: tips and having all of this evidence is great, but
38:24
Speaker 1: if you're not making any progress with all of it,
38:26
Speaker 1: then what is it all worth, really? They had over
38:30
Speaker 1: a hundred submissions, and it's not like there's a hundred
38:32
Speaker 1: lab techs that are working on this, Koffendaffer told Newsweek.
38:36
Speaker 1: I realize they're going to have both Quantico and the
38:38
Speaker 1: Idaho State Police Labs at their disposal, But there's still
38:42
Speaker 1: a finite amount of people who work DNA that work
38:45
Speaker 1: DNA that's mixed, that work fingerprints, that work hair and fibers. Well,
38:50
Speaker 1: every state has it, right? Every single state has one
38:53
Speaker 1: of these labs. Why not put out a call for
38:55
Speaker 1: lab techs who want to come and help out? When
38:59
Speaker 1: we were going through COVID, we had nurses coming in
39:01
Speaker 1: from all over the country to help out. So see
39:03
Speaker 1: if there's some lab techs out there that might be
39:06
Speaker 1: out of work or looking to make some extra bucks
39:08
Speaker 1: and bring them in. Bring in the mobile labs, extra
39:11
Speaker 1: lab techs, and let's expedite this. Kofendaffer went on to
39:15
Speaker 1: discuss a recent case in Oklahoma where four men were
39:19
Speaker 1: found dismembered in a river. According to the New York Times,
39:22
Speaker 1: the four victims' bodies were found on October 14th. And
39:26
Speaker 1: on December 26 67-year-old Joseph L Kennedy was charged in
39:30
Speaker 1: the crime well that's fine and well but everybody pointed
39:34
Speaker 1: to this man right away they were just waiting for
39:36
Speaker 1: confirmation and here in Idaho we don't even have that
39:40
Speaker 1: and usually there's a little smoke around the fire so
39:43
Speaker 1: I think that's what has people concerned down here in
39:47
Speaker 1: Oklahoma I remember reading about this story and hearing about
39:50
Speaker 1: the dude who is being charged now as the possible
39:54
Speaker 1: suspect literally right away. And that's my point. Usually we
39:58
Speaker 1: have a suspect in cases like this right away. If
40:02
Speaker 1: not right away, then very soon. I mean, look at
40:04
Speaker 1: the dude from the Migos. It didn't take long for
40:07
Speaker 1: them to catch that dude, right? So I think that's
40:10
Speaker 1: where people are at in this case. There's a lot
40:12
Speaker 1: of folks saying to themselves, well, we're 46 days in here,
40:16
Speaker 1: and usually, at the very least, there's a suspect, but
40:19
Speaker 1: there's nothing here. So what the hell's going on? And
40:22
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the theme from the general public.
40:26
Speaker 1: Everybody doesn't understand all of the particulars. They don't know
40:29
Speaker 1: what goes into an investigation like this. They want results.
40:33
Speaker 1: Coffendaffer used that case to explain that despite evidence linking
40:37
Speaker 1: the victims to Kennedy's salvage yard shortly after the bodies
40:40
Speaker 1: were found, It still took police two months to build
40:43
Speaker 1: the case and charge the man. Well, there's no doubt
40:45
Speaker 1: about it. It takes time to charge somebody. But I
40:49
Speaker 1: think the point is that this guy was already on
40:53
Speaker 1: the radar right away. And while it took them time
40:56
Speaker 1: to build their case and to charge the man, they
40:59
Speaker 1: at the very least had a target. Here in Idaho,
41:02
Speaker 1: that hasn't even occurred. We're at not even two months
41:06
Speaker 1: and this Idaho case is far more complicated, Kofendaver said.
41:10
Speaker 1: adding that she believes it will take a year from
41:13
Speaker 1: the November 13th date for it to be solved. I
41:16
Speaker 1: think within a year, we will have a break, she said.
41:19
Speaker 1: That's my best prediction. Coffin Daffer continued, I think they
41:23
Speaker 1: have at least a couple of possible avenues of investigation
41:26
Speaker 1: that they feel are strong. Well, that's good. I hope
41:29
Speaker 1: that's the case. Look, I would love for this to
41:31
Speaker 1: be wrapped up and have a bow on it for
41:34
Speaker 1: these families ASAP. But I don't have that kind of
41:38
Speaker 1: confidence yet. I don't think we're anywhere near that point.
41:44
Speaker 1: One of the main leads police have released to the
41:46
Speaker 1: public is information regarding a white Hyundai Elantra that was
41:50
Speaker 1: believed to be near the residence at the time of
41:52
Speaker 1: the crime. Progress continues to locate the white 2011 through
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Speaker 1: 2013 Hyundai Elantra believed to be in the immediate area
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Speaker 1: of the King Road residence during the early morning hours
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Speaker 1: of November 13th, police said in a press release on Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: Investigators believe the occupant or occupants may have critical information
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Speaker 1: to share regarding this case and have identified over 22,000 vehicles.
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Speaker 1: So the hunt for the Hyundai Elantra is still on.
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Speaker 1: We have no information regarding that Elantra besides what has
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Speaker 1: been released. And as far as we know, the police
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Speaker 1: are still looking for it. Now, Jennifer Kofendaffer, she believes
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Speaker 1: it's going to take at least a year for this
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Speaker 1: case to be solved. And I know that's not the
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Speaker 1: news most of us want to hear, but I figured
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Speaker 1: we'd add it to the catalog considering her being an
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Speaker 1: ex-FBI agent. She probably has a little bit more experience
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Speaker 1: with this stuff than any of us. So it's certainly
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Speaker 1: interesting to get her perspective here and to hear what
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Speaker 1: she thinks is going down and when this will all
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Speaker 1: be resolved. So there you have it, folks. Jennifer Koffendaffer
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Speaker 1: and her opinion on when she thinks we'll have some resolutions.
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Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this one. If you'd
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