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#148 - Michael Castillo - "Michael Castillo Day" · The Chris and Mike Show

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  There you go. What's up, boys and girls?
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  Welcome to Chris Mike Show. It's the Michael Castillo.
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  Day. We're going to dump this going
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  Michael Castillo Day. Yeah, October 28th.
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  It's like tight end day on Sundays of this past Sunday for
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  the NFL, right? October 20th, Michael Castillo
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  Day. Damn straight man.
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  We got to bleed a little longer. I'm going to find him.
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  Chill. The hands don't make it jump.
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  Quite clear. Yeah.
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  What's up, boys and girls? It's Chris and Mike.
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  Show this. This.
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  He's Mike. I'm Chris.
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  This is Michael Castillo. And we are live now on the
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  Twitch and the YouTube and Mike. And I look for you chiming in on
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  the chat this time like. No, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So if you don't know who Michael Castillo is, you're going to
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  find out on you. But he legit has been falling
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  with like, what seems like forever.
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  He tunes in quite frequently on our live show, so we're super
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  excited to finally have him on the.
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  Show always very positive, which I totally appreciate.
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  Which we love words of. Encouragement and yeah, no,
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  it's, it's awesome. It's welcomed and you were
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  there, like Chris said, literally you're the first
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  frequent follower from the get go.
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  So welcome. It's super cool to have you on
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  here. I'm excited to be here, guys.
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  Now here's here's a question around the gate.
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  Why? Why do you love us?
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  Why do you love us so much? Well, I actually I'll, I'll tell
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  you why. OK, cool.
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  Multiple reasons, really. OK, First of all, your
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  background, I've I've, I've, I've fade to myself a novice
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  musician and for a time I really wanted to kind of pursue that,
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  but it never really went anywhere.
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  And then on top of that, the fact that you guys have talked
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  about recovery, which is very near and dear to me.
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  I'm I I happen to be in recovery.
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  Right on good jobs, How long? Well, if I don't drink before
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  January 1st, 5 years. Oh.
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  You're not going to drink, man. No drinking allowed.
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  Got a good head start? Yes, Sir.
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  Yes, Sir. That's awesome, man.
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  Yeah, I'm very excited, very excited.
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  So you definitely jive with us on the music and the recovery
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  part for sure. Cool.
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  Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely. IA lot of the previous guests
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  I've really enjoyed there was I'm terrible with names.
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  Unfortunately, there was. A gentleman in particular who
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  was it was also from the South. I could tell because I
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  recognized the accident right away, being that I too am also
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  from the South. But he was he, he was a country
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  fella. I think he was living in the
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  mountains and he Dwayne. Played a song for you.
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  Dwayne. Dwayne.
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  Parker Yeah, yeah. Yeah, my truck's on crack.
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  Yeah, yeah, it was hilarious. I loved it.
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  Right. He was awesome, dude.
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  He was. He was.
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  Sitting in the He was sitting in the middle of nowhere today,
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  literally out in Alabama, somewhere town I'd never heard
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  of, just him and his guitar and got his phone set up and he's
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  live streaming on Facebook while I was on a break at work.
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  Oh wow, like you going? I got AI, got a buddy of mine
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  who I used to jam with virtually.
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  Who? Who does that as well?
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  Cool. So from from music wise, because
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  that's how you kind of find your connection with us.
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  What do what do you play? What instrument do you sing?
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  Do you guitar, Drums. Well, I've always faced myself,
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  a singer who plays guitar. It's definitely not the other
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  way around. I've always been a rhythm
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  player, bit of a songwriter and part of time, like I said, you
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  know, it's I kind of had an inflated ego after playing a
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  couple of gigs, had a lot of fun doing that.
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  And after a while I was just like, well, you know, I guess I,
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  I need to kind of slow down and start doing grown up stuff and.
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  I know this sucks. Right, pay the bills.
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  Now you don't have, you don't have an inflated ego, because to
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  be a musician, to stand up on stage, regardless if it's one
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  person or or 10,000, you have to have some type of ego.
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  You just have to. You can't because if you don't,
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  if you don't, you'll have what happened to the original lead
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  singer that Mike had. He won't go on stage, stage.
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  He's he's afraid. It's stage fight.
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  So you have to have something in you to willingly step out and be
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  in front of, you know, like I said, one to 10,000 people
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  because regardless, it's actually more nerve wracking
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  with, you know, 10-15 people than it is with.
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  Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Like, I used to play parties a
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  lot. You know, I get invited to play
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  at parties and actually book gigs for private parties.
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  And, you know, the numbers would range from like, you know, 20-30
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  to 5060. I think the biggest party I
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  played was like 80 people. But the biggest gig I ever did
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  was back in 2016. It was called the Creek Music
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  Revival. I was with a band called MO and
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  the Rusty Tricycle. There's there's a bit of a story
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  behind that name. Well, yeah, I actually like it.
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  I do too. It's, it's, it's, it's like 13
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  naked midgets you can't forget. That was coming back.
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  It's MO and the rusty tricycle. Well, what was funny was is we
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  were kind of me and the guys were kind of rolling around some
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  names and I come up with I thought were really good names
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  and they were like, Nah, Nah, we don't know.
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  No, it's it's not favorable. They they won't like that.
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  I'm like, well, I don't care. I'm not doing it for them.
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  Nice brights. You know, I want something
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  unique to us. Yes.
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  So yeah, unfortunately a couple of names I can't really think of
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  right off the top of my head, but I know later on it's going
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  to come to me. Yeah, because I'm just, you
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  know, getting on up there, as you can see.
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  Yeah. Oh yeah?
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  Well, how old are you? 48 as of Saturday.
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  OK 55505252 OK, I had a recent recent recent.
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  So we're all Gen. Xers.
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  Yeah, well, hell. Yeah, for sure.
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  Yeah, yeah. We're that generation that
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  actually knows what hard work is and knows what we expect is and
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  know that you don't park in handicapped spaces and that you
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  don't fucking move barricades when it says closed Rd. because
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  you follow the rules on certain levels of society you don't
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  make. One of people who can't defend
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  themselves. Right, right.
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  You know, yeah. OK, so I I just thought of it.
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  Alright, so the name that we were, I was trying to pitch it's
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  it's kind of funny to me. It kind of makes you chuckle,
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  but it was the fat rabbit beat down.
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  See, but that's that's dude #1 imagery for that would be
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  fantastic. Right.
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  See, there it goes, right? Away, yeah, image imagery
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  because imaging every image is everything when it comes to
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  music I mean. We had ideas for.
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  T-shirts. Oh yeah, I bet, I bet.
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  Like, there's an image of this, like, cartoon rabbit who's like,
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  got a black eye and missing tooth and right on with a beer
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  in his hand. You know, I thought that that
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  was very typical and it would win over the crowd.
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  But unfortunately my bandmates were like, yeah, that's no, we
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  can't. Eat if your bandmates were
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  wrong, man. I know I agree.
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  Imagine if we would have stuck with Fat Rabbit beat down.
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  We'd probably still be together. OK, so it was.
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  So tell me again what the rabbit was.
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  A fat rabbit? Create a fat rabbit with a black
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  eye. Yeah, fat rabbit with a black
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  eye. Like a missing tooth and then,
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  you know, very stereotypical redneckish look like a wife
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  beater with some holes in it, cigarette hanging out of his
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  mouth. And like Chris is.
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  Multitasking. Oh yeah, Dave, I'm.
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  Going to I'm making a video of what I'm telling.
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  You right, I knew this was coming.
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  Hanging out of his mouth. What kind of guitar do you
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  prefer, Mike? Oh, that's a good one.
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  Yeah, well, initially I liked. I was a huge Fender fan, OK, You
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  know, I love Stratocasters just because they were so versatile.
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  That was the look that drew me to want to play the guitar.
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  That look. Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  I mean, Stevie Ray Vaughan was like my hero.
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  Oh, we can get along, absolutely.
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  Hero. That is 1 guitar tone that I
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  could listen to for the rest of my life.
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  You couldn't torture me with that.
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  It would only. I know I'm right there with you.
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  There's so many songs that I just absolutely love that, and I
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  love his vocal style too. And he hated it.
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  He did. That's he did.
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  He did not like singing. Can you imagine anybody else
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  singing those songs? No.
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  Because the emotion pours out of it.
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  He hated his voice. I find that so sad.
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  Yeah, he there was an interview I watched with him where he was
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  actually talking about how much he hated singing and how that
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  like he he described it as hamburger throat.
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  And after doing some shows, I'm like, yeah, I can relate to
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  that. Yeah, definitely.
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  I'm sure Chris can too. OK, What's not to interrupt?
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  What is? I don't know how I want to do
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  this. I want your phone number, Mike.
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  I'll give you my number. I'll give you.
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  I'll give you my number. I'll give you my number.
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  You text me because my numbers aren't on the page.
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  Yeah, don't give his number out. OK, you're ready.
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  Yeah, I want you to text me because I'm going to send you
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  the picture. OK well I'm I'm on my phone now
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  so I have to do it like afterwards but.
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  OK, let. Me see, but I I can't.
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  Wait to see the picture. I sent it to you.
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  I sent it to you, Mike. There's four of them.
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  I don't know if you can see it. There's four of them.
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  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I see it. I love it.
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  So you can tell me which one you like and then I'll have it
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  downloaded and send it to you after the show.
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  OK, well. I'm hold on, I can see.
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  Two, you guys keep talking, we can do this.
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  OK, if you. Move it, move it over just a
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  hair to your right. I think it would be your right
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  or no. OK, your left then.
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  OK. Yeah, I'm still not seeing it.
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  OK. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
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  I'll put it on my computer and then I'll share the screen.
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  OK, Magic moments. Yeah, absolutely.
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  I love the fact. Well, I mean, obviously I'm a
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  big techno buff. Right on, hence being the
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  author. But yeah.
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  Yeah, cuz I Yeah. So author of what Buddy?
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  OK, so it's my first book. It's called The Cyber Dance.
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  It is a cyberpunk, science fiction, murder mystery, wild
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  ride kind of thing. Yes.
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  Yeah, and it's the first of a series that I plan on working
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  on. I'm actually working on the
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  second installment now. And if all goes according to
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  plan, I could publish as early as spring next year.
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  We're done. That's awesome.
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  So we're going to make it a point.
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  We're going to make it a point now to remind you that when you
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  are at the point of publishing this, you're going to come on
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  back on the show prior. To.
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  That when you have a publication date, I'll put this on YouTube,
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  I'll put, I'll put this on our Facebook page.
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  So then we can, we can, we can pimp you out to the world.
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  Sweet. Because you know, you watch this
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  enough, you know, that's what we do.
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  We mean Mike and I are Mike and I, but we like having folks on
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  like you that have a life, really cool life resume and have
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  things happening in your in your world.
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  So it's on on Facebook. You're Michael R Castillo,
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  right? Yeah, now that's that's my
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  author page. So yes, yeah.
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  That's what I got, yeah. Here is the logo for.
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  Oh, I love it. I love it.
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  There you go. OK.
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  So the one the one I really like is like for me, it's the the one
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  that's in the bottom right hand corner.
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  I think that one's my favorite. Me too.
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  Yeah. Man, the upper left hand corner,
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  well, they're all bad. The.
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  Upper left. Headquarters like a It's a.
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  Really, I finally figured out how to share it.
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  Nice job, Mike. Good job.
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  Yeah, that looks amazing. So, so that's a new, that's a
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  new app that that that medics created called Meta AI.
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  So so real simple. I you heard me type in what I
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  typed, I said just make me an create an image of a fat rabbit
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  with a black eye dangling cigarette playing guitar in a
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  redneck type outfit. That's it man.
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  That bottom right corner is tight.
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  It is well, well I so the things that like the top left and the
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  bottom right that they have in corner is or have in common is
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  the overalls. Which?
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  Definitely captures that atmosphere.
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  Yeah, so cool. Yeah.
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  I love it. It's amazing, right?
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  It's just it mind boggling what it does man.
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  Well, when I was writing the book, I had to do a lot of
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  research into AI. Yeah.
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  Oh, right on. Because one of the characters is
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  in fact an ASI, an artificial super intelligence.
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  That's cool and. You're speaking my language
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  again. Dude, this, this book, I'm
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  telling you, it's like, well, it's, it's definitely sci-fi.
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  Like if you like Blade Runner. Oh damn.
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  Right, with maybe a, a slight mix of the matrix and maybe,
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  let's see, maybe a hint of Terminator sorta the there's,
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  there's this, this book's for you.
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  There's there's actually. Part and I'll be buying it for
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  sure. You just talked me into it.
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  Oh, well, thank you. Thank you.
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  Very much so when it when you start developing the movie we
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  want. To turn your volume up if you're
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  going to lean back there. I'm sorry if when you start
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  developing the movie, Mike and I want to do the soundtrack.
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  OK. You can help because you're a
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  musician too. So we can, Yeah, we can be the
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  We can be the Fat Rabbit band. Yeah.
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  And turn the soundtrack. Yeah, I just downloaded about
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  27,000 instruments into this computer with the new studio,
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  Yeah. Oh no shit.
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  Yeah, it came with this massive pack of drums and sense and Oh
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  yeah, we can do some crazy stuff.
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  Now that is insane. Yeah, 179 bucks a year.
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  Now you can have like 20,000 instruments in your MacBook Pro
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  where you know what, even 20 years ago that would have cost
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  you millions of dollars, right? Because you would have had to
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  have a studio, you would have had to buy a big board, you
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  would have had to buy all the out Ford gear, you would had to
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  actually build the studio itself, which is incredibly
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  expensive. Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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  I was blown away. Walls and yeah, yeah.
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  So, so I'm gonna, I don't know, this is good.
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  This is gonna put you on a spot. So you look to me like somebody
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  that would kind of kind of sound a little bit raspy, bluesy when
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  you say. Yes, yes.
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  That's, yeah, that's exactly it, yeah.
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  So you've heard me sing because Freeman's our song.
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  One of our songs, yeah. Yeah.
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  So. So we'll have a nice dynamic
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  when we build your soundtrack. That's pretty cool.
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  That was. Fun.
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  I, I tell you what, I'll throw out a recommendation for you
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  because it's probably the only, the only song I'm really proud
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  of. It's also the only video that I
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  that I recorded where I was sober.
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  I mean like stone cold sober. Is it on the name of the song?
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  Is it on YouTube? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  It's on my channel on YouTube, but it's called Meant to Be.
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  I I recorded that in the in my buddy's patio is my best friend
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  out Waycross GA. OK, nice.
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  That sounds like an out of the way place.
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  Well, yeah, but as the name implies, it's Waycross.
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  Georgia Waycross, GA And there it is right there.
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  Yeah, that's it. That's it.
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  They'll probably they'll probably shut us down because
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  YouTube doesn't like us playing music.
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  The. Fucks, I got you.
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  Well, he'll be. Fine.
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  Did you see that? As I said that, Michael looked
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  at me through the video. Did that on purpose.
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  You steal my shit, blow that screen up.
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  I'm trying to. I like your voice, man.
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  Me too. I wrote that 20 years ago.
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  Dude, that's a great melody. Yeah.
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  Thank you. It's actually in the key of E
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  minor, but it's easier to play K foot on the second fret.
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  I can hear all kinds of atmospheric guitars behind that.
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  I can, I can hear backing vocals on that.
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  That's beautiful, yeah. Thank you.
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  I think with this talking over, YouTube may not shut us down.
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  That's why I'm not. That's why I'm not being quiet.
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  I'm still listening to it. It's his music.
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  All he's know we would say it's OK, OK, OK.
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  They'll send him something first, OK?
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  I think about what I could tell you.
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  I think that was eight years ago actually, when I did that video
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  seven or eight years ago. Name hat too.
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  Right, right on. Yeah.
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  Big drums. Yeah.
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  Yeah, Big drums, Yeah. I was very proud of this song,
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  very proud. You should be.
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  It's a good song, man. Thank you, I'm a proud.
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  You scream very much. That takes a lot, Mike.
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  Your screen went black, Michael. Yeah, we can't see it for some
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  reason. There you are.
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  OK. All right.
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  Welcome back to the World Cup. Some some message came up.
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  Sorry. Oh yeah.
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  It's. OK.
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  Oh, that's why. That's why Lemoyne's kept going
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  doing that. Oh yeah, OK.
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  We kept getting messages. Yeah.
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  Dude I'm super impressed man. Thank you.
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  Thank you very much. I love this finger picking part.
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  That's that was my my favorite thing about it.
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  Your accents are right on big drums.
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  I actually I played this at a a a Bar and Grill called LL Creek
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  in Waycross, GA, downtown Waycross.
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  And there were a couple other musicians there who were hanging
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  out and performing and they decided to back me on that song.
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  So there was a little lead action.
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  It was nice. I'll tell you how you know.
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  It's a great song, Mike. How's this?
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  You don't need any of the shit that Chris and I are talking
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  about. It would just make it cooler,
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  right? Yeah, A great song can be played
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  just like this, right? It doesn't need anything else.
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  All that other stuff is just icing on the cake, you know?
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  Yeah, that means a lot. I mean, I like I really.
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  Mean it. I don't hand that out
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  lightheartedly because I love music as much as the rest of us.
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  That's been my whole life. So that's a great song.
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  I would listen to that over and over again.
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  It was it it, It came to me one night.
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  I was dating this girl who ended up being my second wife and I
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  wrote it to impress her. And did it.
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  Yeah, we ended up getting married.
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  I mean, 10 years later we divorced, but you know,
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  whatever. Yeah, I, I, I've written quite a
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  few songs for Nikki, but I already she was already married
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  to me, so she's and stuff. Yeah, OK.
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  You know, like fun fact, I actually performed this song at
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  our wedding. Oh, right on.
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  Always me man, if I be baby I know.
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  Everything would be our man and I to who wants.
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  You to. Be you probably noticed the
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  lights on the umbrella there. That was that was my buddy's
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  idea. That's perfect, man.
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  Man, Mikey's killing it. I mean that man.
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  I'm super impressed. Thank you.
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  Thank you very much. I love hearing new music.
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  That blows me away. You just did it that that.
• 23:01
  Means a lot, especially coming from you guys, that really means
• 23:05
  a lot. It always means that much.
• 23:07
  Coming from another musician, It doesn't.
• 23:09
  You don't have to watch this. Video I was drunk, yeah.
• 23:12
  I was drunk as shit in that one. I was trying to catch it before
• 23:15
  it started. Yeah, there's a lot of
• 23:19
  unfortunately there's a lot of videos of me rather snuck or
• 23:23
  but. That one, we're glad there
• 23:25
  wasn't social media when we were in Nemesis.
• 23:28
  So yeah, we don't. Those stories stay in the past.
• 23:32
  Yeah, well, I was, I was fairly like recently divorced when I
• 23:39
  started to like get back out there music wise because I mean,
• 23:42
  when we met, I was already playing and and doing stuff.
• 23:46
  My my ex-wife and and I hung it up when we got together.
• 23:52
  And then when we split up, I was just like, well, I'm going to go
• 23:54
  with what I know. And I went back to music and
• 23:58
  kind of dove head first in and I started, you know, doing gigs
• 24:03
  and and playing parties and I played that music festival and
• 24:07
  was it was a wild time. That's one thing I've avoided
• 24:10
  for that reason alone is just going out and playing live
• 24:14
  again. I like sitting here and being
• 24:16
  able to create and do my own thing and I'm getting way more
• 24:19
  confident and I had it. So we'll definitely be releasing
• 24:21
  some stuff here way sooner than what we had talked about two
• 24:24
  years ago. The cool thing about you being
• 24:26
  on here today, Mikey, is 3 days ago.
• 24:29
  We started this two years ago, which is a crazy weird thing to
• 24:33
  oh. Yeah, there it is.
• 24:35
  Say time wise but. Yeah, that's awesome.
• 24:37
  So we're we're. So if it's so 3 days from now is
• 24:41
  our. Is no.
• 24:41
  Three days ago we started two years ago.
• 24:45
  October 25th was the first time we actually released an episode.
• 24:49
  Oh wow, so you guys did it on my birthday.
• 24:51
  That's cool. Happy birthday.
• 24:53
  Well, thanks. Geez, so you got your birthday
• 24:56
  on October 25th and now October 28th is Mikey Castillo Day.
• 25:00
  Not way. I'm loving it.
• 25:02
  I mean, I'm loving it. You could just you just.
• 25:04
  That's it. I meant walk away.
• 25:05
  Seinfeld. Bye.
• 25:06
  See you. Yeah.
• 25:07
  Mic drop. George Costanza, my ladder
• 25:10
  complete. So fun fact.
• 25:12
  I love this whole that visual dude you designed.
• 25:16
  It. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:17
  I mean, it was AI assisted, but sure.
• 25:19
  Yeah, I designed it. Kind of like the fat rabbit.
• 25:22
  I love it. Yes, yeah.
• 25:25
  So, so we had so so, so you probably were, you probably were
• 25:28
  on the OR or watching the show or, or watched it with Dennis
• 25:31
  Campbell, the guy that's been doing AI since he was 20.
• 25:34
  Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah. So how deep down the rabbit hole
• 25:38
  have you gone? Because he's 15 years into what?
• 25:40
  What's what's? Your.
• 25:41
  What's your? Length of time, All right, So 15
• 25:44
  years. It definitely kind of blows me
• 25:47
  out of the water because I didn't start really digging deep
• 25:51
  until I started to get the idea for the book.
• 25:55
  And the idea for the book came to me.
• 25:57
  It was like a couple weeks before Christmas last year.
• 26:01
  I was sitting on the couch taking care of my nephew and I
• 26:07
  just thought I, I had this wild, insane idea that's
• 26:11
  unfortunately, it's not really original, but right.
• 26:14
  It just, I, I, I thought, man, this will be a cool story.
• 26:17
  And, and the idea was what would I do if my consciousness were
• 26:22
  uploaded into cyberspace? What would I do?
• 26:25
  How would I feel? What you know, what would my
• 26:27
  experiences be like? What would I see, You know, And
• 26:32
  the story sort of snowballed from there.
• 26:35
  OK. And then it turned into a murder
• 26:37
  mystery. And like one of the characters
• 26:42
  has DID dissociative identity disorder.
• 26:46
  That's multiple personality disorder.
• 26:48
  Oh, right on. She's a lot of fun.
• 26:51
  OK, absolutely don't give don't give away too many of your
• 26:53
  carrots because we want people to buy the book.
• 26:55
  But definitely. Definitely.
• 26:56
  Yeah, yeah. Definitely dangle, dangle some
• 26:58
  stuff. So it it, it's intriguing
• 27:00
  because I like that. I like the character.
• 27:02
  That's a cool character. So, so the whole premise, not
• 27:04
  the interruption, but the whole premise is this is if if you're
• 27:07
  if your entire basically get uploaded into, into into
• 27:11
  cyberspace. Well, that's how it started.
• 27:15
  But the story revolves around the the main protan.
• 27:19
  The main protagonist is a guy named Rains Thomas Michael Rains
• 27:25
  and. Good name by the way it.
• 27:28
  Is that's awesome. I love it.
• 27:29
  Good serial killer name. Yeah, yeah, I thought so.
• 27:32
  Too I did I. Thought so too.
• 27:35
  You know, it's funny because like he, like his history
• 27:40
  revolves around being in like a, a Black Ops type thing where
• 27:47
  they were called the shadow division.
• 27:49
  That's that's mentioned in the book.
• 27:52
  But I'm not going to give too much away.
• 27:55
  But basically the book starts off where his consciousness is
• 27:59
  uploaded into cyberspace. OK.
• 28:01
  And then shit just hits the fan from there.
• 28:05
  That's I can imagine man, cuz this just from that concept
• 28:08
  alone I'm, I'm, I'm thinking like, oh, now the now all the
• 28:11
  dreams can become reality cuz it's cyberspace.
• 28:14
  Yeah, yeah. And because and because cyber AI
• 28:17
  doesn't understand fact from fiction yet, right, It's not it
• 28:19
  doesn't have that method yet as we totally.
• 28:22
  Lends itself to the movie world. Right, right.
• 28:25
  As as Dennis, as Dennis talked about, the more we feed AI, the
• 28:29
  more advanced it's going to get, which, yeah, in the short time
• 28:32
  we had Dennis on the show to where we're at now, the leaps
• 28:35
  and bounds that some of the apps that I use are are freaking mind
• 28:40
  bolling. Because my big thing, like
• 28:41
  whenever I do some of my videos, I always sign off with until
• 28:44
  next time. See you.
• 28:45
  Well, it doesn't it doesn't pick up that inflection.
• 28:48
  So but the more you feed the machine, the closer it's going
• 28:53
  to get to eventually in 10 years when I do that, it'll pick it up
• 28:56
  verbatim. And there's some stuff I've sent
• 28:58
  Mike he and afterwards I'm going to do that with AI.
• 29:01
  He's like, what? Because it's just.
• 29:03
  That's the only reason I knew the second time I listened to it
• 29:06
  is he does have that tagline and it doesn't pick up that high
• 29:10
  pitched inflection in his voice ever.
• 29:12
  Oh, wow. So if you know, if you didn't
• 29:15
  know Chris, you wouldn't know that it was AI.
• 29:18
  But knowing him as long as I have, when I listened to it the
• 29:21
  second time, it creeped me the fuck out because I was like, OK,
• 29:24
  now there's no emotion that that's like robot Chris, right?
• 29:27
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool, man.
• 29:31
  Dennis basically said, you know, the more like he said, the more
• 29:35
  we feed it, the smarter it gets. And everybody keeps saying, you
• 29:38
  know, it's going to take all these jobs.
• 29:40
  Yeah, it's going to take a lot of jobs.
• 29:42
  But he basically had the positive spin on it.
• 29:44
  It's going to create other jobs. It will it.
• 29:48
  Will, you know, there's a lot of opportunities, a lot of doors
• 29:51
  that will open and a lot of people kind of get hung up on
• 29:55
  the doors that'll close and they just sort of don't allow
• 29:59
  themselves to see the, the other possibilities, the other side,
• 30:02
  which is that there will be opportunities that will open.
• 30:06
  You know, there will be new things available.
• 30:09
  I, I just, I, I'm, I'm very excited about it, obviously
• 30:14
  being an inspiration to, to my story.
• 30:18
  Now, Rain's just getting back to that briefly.
• 30:20
  Yeah, yeah. He's not what is referred to as
• 30:23
  the ASI. He's not the artificial super
• 30:26
  intelligence. And I can I can mention that
• 30:29
  character Elysian he. Yeah, another name for heaven
• 30:34
  for those of you who don't. Know.
• 30:35
  Yeah, exactly, exactly. It's a Greek.
• 30:38
  If I remember correctly, it's a reference to the Elysian Fields,
• 30:42
  where I. Was gonna go.
• 30:43
  Heroes die and that's where they go.
• 30:45
  Basically similar to Valhalla for Vikings.
• 30:48
  Yeah, correct. So that's where I got the name
• 30:51
  from and but Elysian is anything but good.
• 30:56
  Right. Oh, your character, right.
• 31:00
  Yes, OK, cool. That's cool.
• 31:01
  So it's a so it's a OK, I like that.
• 31:03
  I likethat.com right there. And I can I can give that away
• 31:06
  because that it it says it on the back of the book the the
• 31:09
  description. Oh, cool, right now.
• 31:11
  But yeah, I mean, there's like a hacker collective called Chaos
• 31:15
  Nation that gets involved in this.
• 31:17
  And then there's the the chick with DID.
• 31:22
  Her name's Clara, who has an alternate personality named
• 31:27
  Angel. There you go.
• 31:28
  I'm not going to give too much away there.
• 31:30
  But I have one plain name character, Christos.
• 31:34
  He's dissing you for Clara. I'm like, Jesus, you got to have
• 31:36
  one real name in there. Otherwise it gets like all this
• 31:39
  guy was just trying to go too far outside the box, right?
• 31:42
  He thinks he's so smart. Like you got to have a Clara, OK
• 31:45
  or a Karen in there somewhere. I'll give you that.
• 31:47
  I'll give you that. Please tell me that Clara is
• 31:50
  kind of like the person who gets everybody else in trouble.
• 31:56
  No. Oh God, Dang it.
• 31:58
  No, Clara is actually very mousy.
• 32:02
  She's she's petite, not social at all.
• 32:08
  Very reserved. OK, maybe that's what I was
• 32:11
  picturing, but. Yeah, she's socially awkward.
• 32:14
  Yeah, OK. She's she's extremely socially
• 32:16
  awkward. However, her.
• 32:18
  Alternate. Yeah, her alternate Angel.
• 32:22
  I'm not going to say she's the opposite, but she's like cold
• 32:27
  and menacing. Nice look at us go.
• 32:33
  You'll be a prop. You're like, just like Nikki.
• 32:35
  Nikki and I finished sentences and shit.
• 32:36
  It's crazy. Yeah, well, we've done this like
• 32:39
  what, 100 and 49150? Times and we've known each other
• 32:42
  for 30 years time I've known my wife.
• 32:44
  So there you go. Oh wow.
• 32:45
  Yeah, yeah. That's a tub.
• 32:48
  I love this whole concept, dude. When did you say this book's
• 32:50
  coming out? Now the cyberdance is already
• 32:54
  out. Well, I gotta have this in my
• 32:56
  life then. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:57
  It's where do people get it? It's on Amazon.
• 33:01
  It's also available on Audible and on iTunes.
• 33:05
  I think I have access to Audible.
• 33:07
  So on the show and the person who I got narrating is actually
• 33:14
  a very well, I'd say a somewhat well known social media content
• 33:19
  creator. OK.
• 33:21
  She also does narration, so it was an experience working with
• 33:25
  her. That's really cool that you got.
• 33:27
  I just, I guess I just realized what you said.
• 33:30
  That's really cool that you have it narrated on Audible.
• 33:33
  That's awesome. Yeah, Yeah, I can say that.
• 33:36
  Well, originally I had toyed around with doing the narration
• 33:42
  myself, but she offered her services and I thought, OK,
• 33:47
  well, you know, I've listened to what you can do.
• 33:49
  Sure, and she did an amazing job, I think.
• 33:53
  Cool the fact. You're Cyberdance.
• 33:55
  Is all that matters because you're the one that wrote the
• 33:57
  book, so that's awesome that you're happy with the outcome.
• 34:00
  I was, I was, I was quite pleased.
• 34:02
  She she did a very good job. Yeah, The Cyberdance The Reigns
• 34:06
  Chronicles, Book 1. Yes.
• 34:08
  Yeah, I gotta have this in my life.
• 34:09
  I love this concept. So did you self publish and?
• 34:13
  Give it away. Did you self publish or did
• 34:15
  somebody publish it? No, I self published.
• 34:17
  OK, cool. So it was, you know, it's my
• 34:20
  first book and it was a very steep learning curve.
• 34:22
  I learned a lot. So go moving forward with the
• 34:26
  second book. I mean, I, I'll be honest, I, I,
• 34:29
  I made some mistakes. Well, who doesn't?
• 34:31
  Along the way, and I will be. I did.
• 34:35
  I did do it. So what I've learned through my
• 34:39
  experiences with publishing this first one only makes me going
• 34:44
  into the second one better informed and can handle it a
• 34:49
  whole lot better. Absolutely.
• 34:50
  Gotcha. Yep.
• 34:52
  Trust me when I tell you I'm glad our first gig wasn't in
• 34:54
  front of 2000 people. Oh my God.
• 34:58
  Oh yeah, that would. Be I I I would have been fine in
• 35:01
  front of 2000 people, but the previous lead singer wouldn't
• 35:03
  have. No, yeah.
• 35:05
  I would have, I would have jumped off the rafters and you
• 35:07
  know. Yeah, he would have been fine
• 35:08
  shit and the rest of us would have been fine, but I had.
• 35:11
  When I was when I was in my first band, we called ourselves
• 35:15
  Room 101. There's a little little story
• 35:18
  there too. But anyway, I did not want to
• 35:24
  sing. I had no inclination whatsoever
• 35:27
  to sing, didn't even think I could sing.
• 35:31
  And all I ever did was I auditioned to be a rhythm
• 35:35
  player, and that's what I was. And then one night we were
• 35:39
  jamming along and of all the songs that bands play, just for
• 35:45
  shits and giggles, we decided to entertain ourselves and play
• 35:49
  Free Bird. You know, it's not it's not one
• 35:51
  that you play for a crowd because, you know, that's been
• 35:55
  overdone. But we wanted to kind of
• 35:58
  experience it for ourselves and see what our take on it was.
• 36:02
  Right. And we did it.
• 36:04
  And I was just like, you know what, let me think.
• 36:07
  I'm just, you know, let's, let's have some fun.
• 36:09
  Let's have some fun here. We're not doing this in front of
• 36:11
  anybody. And let's have some fun.
• 36:13
  So I did, I sang the whole song and I didn't think nothing of it
• 36:19
  afterwards. About a week later, my lead
• 36:21
  guitarist gets a hold of me and he's like, hey, Mike, listen,
• 36:25
  can we, can we have a sit down? And I was like, ah, shit,
• 36:29
  they're they're kicking me out. They're kicking me out.
• 36:32
  I just know it. So we, we have our sit down and
• 36:37
  it was me and me and him and I think one other, one other
• 36:40
  member, I think it was a bass player.
• 36:42
  And he goes, listen, I talked with the guys and I was like,
• 36:48
  I'm going to stop you there. It's cool.
• 36:50
  Thank you for the opportunity. I've I've enjoyed it, but I, I,
• 36:55
  you say no more. I've, I've been, I've been down
• 36:57
  this road before. I've experienced A breakup.
• 37:00
  It's cool. He's like, was it Paulo?
• 37:02
  Opposite right? Yeah, yeah.
• 37:04
  He goes. No, no, no, no.
• 37:05
  You're getting it wrong. You're jumping the gun here.
• 37:07
  We want you to be the singer. In fact, we all voted on it.
• 37:10
  You're our singer now. And I was like, man.
• 37:13
  Oh. OK, I can understand why you got
• 37:16
  a great voice. Well, thank you.
• 37:17
  Thank you. Thank you very much.
• 37:19
  I heard the same thing from him standing behind me at the Candle
• 37:22
  Box concert. I was like, that's our new
• 37:24
  singer right there. Oh yeah.
• 37:25
  As long as he wants the job, you know?
• 37:27
  All it took was convincing him, you know I there was no more on
• 37:30
  twisting. My arms so hard.
• 37:32
  I heard him. I literally heard him sing for
• 37:35
  90 minutes. Singing has always been a lot of
• 37:39
  fun and it's I think it's a, a great way to sort of get your
• 37:45
  frustrations out there too, you know, because it's, it's an
• 37:49
  emotional experience for me. It could be for happy Song, It
• 37:53
  could be, you know, it could be like slow paced or just like a
• 37:59
  real banger. And I get into it like I really
• 38:01
  dive into it. Well, and you've heard us talk
• 38:03
  about our stuff enough that that's, that's how I was too.
• 38:06
  Because it's, yeah, you, you, not the sound, cliche.
• 38:08
  But when, when we played, I, I, I, I went up there like it was
• 38:12
  the last time. I'm going to have the
• 38:13
  opportunity to play in front of people.
• 38:15
  Yeah. And the cool thing is, is he
• 38:17
  became the character of the song of each song he was portraying.
• 38:22
  You know, there was, there was almost like a visual act that
• 38:25
  wasn't the same every time, but there were little elements that
• 38:29
  I came to expect. Right.
• 38:30
  He's going to do something of a version of whatever here.
• 38:34
  You know, he's going to sit down on the drum riser as he sings
• 38:37
  this part, or he's going to, like he said, swing from the
• 38:40
  rafters. When he gets to this crescendo,
• 38:42
  right when the drums really start banging or whatever, he'd
• 38:45
  reach up there and just start swinging from the rafters or
• 38:48
  some crazy shit like that, you know?
• 38:50
  Yeah, there were little things you came to.
• 38:52
  Expect. Absolutely.
• 38:54
  Him and I would meet at certain moments during a solo or
• 38:57
  something, you know? And then we would do that.
• 38:59
  We do my favorite thing, the back lane.
• 39:01
  Yeah, where where I'd lean back, he'd lean back and he just
• 39:04
  jamming out with the cell. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 39:06
  yeah. I have nothing to do.
• 39:07
  So I'm just I'm just sitting there rocking out with Mike and
• 39:09
  then we kind of push into each other, realize, OK, we're
• 39:11
  standing up now, you know, we're.
• 39:12
  Literally at practice one day Mikey, and he says I have one
• 39:16
  cliche rock star thing that I always wanted to do on stage,
• 39:20
  but I need your participation. I was like, fuck, whatever you
• 39:25
  want to do, I'm in, man. Let's do it.
• 39:28
  Yeah, it was. It was so much fun.
• 39:31
  It shows the bond when you're on stage with the band and you and
• 39:34
  you and you were together as long as we were.
• 39:37
  And I, we probably, I don't know how many times it's practice.
• 39:39
  Probably at least 100 times before we actually played our
• 39:41
  first show. And then probably another, you
• 39:43
  know, 150 points started getting a, a really good following.
• 39:47
  But those moments are cool because by the time we get to
• 39:50
  that level and we're filling the place up, we already have that
• 39:54
  chemistry. You already have that bond.
• 39:56
  So really, I could look back at Scott if I was singing something
• 39:59
  'cause they'd let me improv certain parts of songs and I
• 40:03
  could look at back at Scott and just go like that.
• 40:04
  Or, you know, hands, whatever the hand gesture I would do and
• 40:08
  he would know to keep playing that or wrap it up.
• 40:10
  I do the same thing with Mike. It didn't matter.
• 40:12
  And it was cool because then the the dynamic of what we did it.
• 40:16
  It was the same, but there's always a little bit something
• 40:18
  like you said, that would would kind of just organically happen
• 40:21
  depending on what the crowd was like, what my mood was like, if
• 40:24
  how much I was into that that particular song because of the
• 40:26
  emotion or content that is that that it, you know, was tied to
• 40:30
  me with. So that's the beautiful thing
• 40:32
  about being a singer, man. You can control the dynamic of
• 40:34
  the song and you can control the crowd to a certain extent and
• 40:38
  take them on that ride like you've heard it, talk about it.
• 40:41
  We've we would play 3 songs, boom, boom, boom before I'd even
• 40:43
  say hey to the crowd. Just like, yeah, we'd start the
• 40:46
  song in your face, in your face, in your face, and then third
• 40:50
  side like. Woo and the crazy.
• 40:53
  Thing. Get into it.
• 40:54
  He's talking about, he's talking about the bond.
• 40:57
  You know, we just recently had William back on and it it was
• 41:02
  like talking to him for the first time.
• 41:05
  The next time all over again, right?
• 41:09
  Wow. It just there was no, there's no
• 41:12
  getting to know each other period.
• 41:13
  It's almost like it's a crazy thing about this podcast.
• 41:16
  There was no getting to know Mikey, right?
• 41:18
  We knew Mikey. He's chimed in a million times
• 41:20
  on the podcast to say, hey, have a great show.
• 41:23
  Really loving the subject. Here's how I tie into this.
• 41:26
  You know, we kind of feel like we know you already.
• 41:28
  That's the same thing. Man, we're going.
• 41:32
  To call this episode the Michael Castillo at the Michael Castillo
• 41:34
  Day. Yeah, absolutely.
• 41:36
  I love it on October 28th. I mean, you know, it's giving me
• 41:39
  a big head. But like we've been talking
• 41:41
  about here, man, that, and Chris has said it best, if you've
• 41:45
  never been on stage with a band for any, and even if you've done
• 41:50
  it once, you've experienced it once, right?
• 41:52
  But when you've experienced it hundreds or thousands of times
• 41:55
  like we have, there's a chemistry that has to be there
• 42:00
  that can never be recreated with any other friendship or bond.
• 42:04
  Yeah, it just can't because there's magic in what happens up
• 42:07
  there. It's yeah, Tom Petty said.
• 42:09
  It's really the only magic I ever encountered on Earth.
• 42:12
  It's one of the greatest quotes he ever had.
• 42:14
  I, I would agree 1000%, absolutely 1000%.
• 42:19
  And then once you capture it, once you capture it, you it's
• 42:21
  like, well, I because addiction being what it is, I, I would
• 42:27
  constantly chase it with every new band.
• 42:29
  Sure, and sometimes the dynamics wouldn't always be the same.
• 42:33
  Yep, that is that is the one thing having that addictive
• 42:37
  personality is that yeah, you just because you can't like this
• 42:41
  the the moments I had with with and and it goes to the members
• 42:45
  of the band, right? Because I, I, I was in another
• 42:47
  band that that was just as successful as, as Nemesis that I
• 42:51
  just kind of vaguely referred to.
• 42:53
  But the moments I had with Nemesis on stage are better than
• 42:57
  the moments they ever had with the council because the, the
• 43:01
  relationship and the chemistry and the connection we had was so
• 43:06
  it was so deep rooted because it was, it was everybody's really
• 43:09
  first band. I had a first band, the garage
• 43:11
  band, you know, that was just four of us playing in a storage
• 43:13
  shed. You know, it wasn't, we did.
• 43:16
  We did a couple backyard parties and a couple open bags.
• 43:19
  But it wasn't like going to change the world.
• 43:22
  You know, where's when when he and I met, it was just meant to
• 43:26
  be. And you just that foundation
• 43:29
  laid at that at that show, because at the end of the day,
• 43:32
  musicians have a what? They have a love for music.
• 43:34
  Absolutely. Because if you don't have a love
• 43:36
  for music, you're not going to go out and try to create your
• 43:38
  own music to share that love of music to the world.
• 43:41
  Right. So it's I agree with you what
• 43:43
  I'm going with this ADHD squirrel, squirrel, squirrel is
• 43:45
  I agree with you that it's hard once you have it, it's hard to
• 43:49
  taste. It's hard to find it again, Yes,
• 43:51
  because it's not so much being on stage, it's being on.
• 43:54
  It's who you're on stage with, Yes.
• 43:56
  And the personalities that you're with and, and like,
• 44:00
  seriously weak. And you know what?
• 44:01
  Being on stage, you could fuck up a song.
• 44:03
  Nobody knows you fucked up a song except my yeah.
• 44:05
  Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
• 44:06
  You know, and no one. Would pick it up, but you could.
• 44:09
  You could only. Hear it?
• 44:10
  The only time someone's going to know is if you stop.
• 44:13
  That was always the golden rule. Just don't fucking stop.
• 44:15
  If you stop, they're going to know right away because they
• 44:18
  know something happened. There's no more music, right?
• 44:20
  Just keep. Lying.
• 44:21
  Once as a mistake, twice as jazz.
• 44:23
  That was always the joke. I meant to do that.
• 44:29
  The guy that taught me to play, that was one of his advices.
• 44:31
  He says if you do something, do it again real quick, like you
• 44:34
  fucking meant to do it. People think you meant to do it.
• 44:38
  And it really applies because, like Chris said, they're not
• 44:41
  musicians. They don't know that music's
• 44:44
  coming at them. A120140160 beats a minute,
• 44:47
  right? They it's rock'n'roll.
• 44:49
  They can barely keep up. Yeah, exactly.
• 44:52
  Exactly. So you mentioned you play rhythm
• 44:54
  guitar now we've you've, you've, we've watched this.
• 44:56
  So, you know, we've had musicians on the basically,
• 44:58
  rhythm guitar is the unsung hero.
• 45:00
  Damn right. It's it's what keeps the whole
• 45:03
  thing together without the rhythm guitar and the bass and
• 45:05
  the drums. The rhythm section is what makes
• 45:07
  the band. Yeah.
• 45:08
  You know, I mean, us singers are, we're the, we're the
• 45:11
  doorway, right? We have to, we have to, the
• 45:14
  crowd's got to dig us in order to, to dig them.
• 45:17
  And you know, and so no. Pressure lead players floating
• 45:20
  between the beats like a Dick head.
• 45:22
  You know, he's coming back on the one every now and then, but
• 45:24
  he's doing weird things in between.
• 45:26
  You're like anchoring it. Hey, we're right here, buddy.
• 45:29
  Yeah, yeah, I love. So how long have you?
• 45:32
  How long have you actually been playing guitar, Michael?
• 45:34
  Since 1999, so 26 years. Right on.
• 45:38
  That's cool. Yeah, I got my first guitar.
• 45:41
  It was a Squire strap. Nice.
• 45:45
  I remember I bought it at this old music shop downtown
• 45:49
  Brunswick called Clyde's Discount Music.
• 45:53
  Clyde's. Clyde's and it was like a family
• 45:56
  owned business, Clyde's. Discount.
• 45:58
  Music Chad's Discount Music in downtown Brunswick, it's not
• 46:03
  there anymore. At least I don't think it is.
• 46:04
  Sorry. I mean, I don't live in Georgia
• 46:06
  anymore. I moved to moved from Georgia
• 46:08
  four years ago. And where do you live?
• 46:10
  Now Delaware. Delaware.
• 46:13
  Wow. What the Hell's in Delaware?
• 46:15
  Took the boy out of. Well, my sister, my sister and I
• 46:19
  share a house together and my mom is also up here.
• 46:23
  My mom and my stepfather and we're all.
• 46:27
  Very close. That's why I'm in the middle of
• 46:28
  a cornfield, Mikey, because this is where my family is.
• 46:32
  My sister's right next door and my parents are a couple blocks
• 46:35
  away. So that's why I moved back here
• 46:36
  to family. Well, you know, I think by
• 46:39
  nature, my, my family tends to be nomadic.
• 46:43
  We, we, we for generations have moved around all over.
• 46:50
  I've, I've actually just for fun, have got into genealogy and
• 46:55
  started to research my, my history.
• 46:58
  All right, because, well, the, the last name is kind of a dead
• 47:01
  giveaway. You can assume that I'm Hispanic
• 47:05
  in some kind of way. No, really.
• 47:07
  Really. Right, right.
• 47:08
  Really. But you know, Castillo is a very
• 47:10
  common name. It's is common as.
• 47:12
  Anderson, I was thinking you're related to Randy Castillo, the
• 47:14
  drummer for Ozzy Osbourne that passed away years ago from the
• 47:16
  stomachache. No, no, we're we're not.
• 47:18
  Damn it man, I had this all. Well, I am.
• 47:22
  I am in fact a third generation Mexican American.
• 47:26
  Really. Yes, awesome.
• 47:28
  Congratulations. Well, thank you.
• 47:31
  Thank you. I'd like to thank my parents for
• 47:33
  getting together and my great grandparents and and all that.
• 47:37
  But yeah, interestingly enough, so the whole reason why I got
• 47:41
  into it is all of my father's side of the family.
• 47:48
  Yeah. Was I refer to him as the the
• 47:50
  Mexican side of the family, OK. Because, well, I mean, they're
• 47:54
  predominantly Mexican. Sure, OK, It's a good way to
• 47:57
  refer to him if they. Are.
• 47:58
  Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, I'm not
• 47:59
  lying. I'm not lying.
• 48:01
  But as far as history goes, nobody seemed to know.
• 48:08
  Or at least nobody would tell me.
• 48:10
  Or my siblings. Who were like our great great
• 48:15
  grandparents and and so on and so forth on on the paternal
• 48:19
  side, you know, from grandfather to great grandfather and so on
• 48:24
  like. They didn't know who they were
• 48:26
  or they were just not telling you.
• 48:28
  I think they didn't. They legitimately didn't know.
• 48:31
  OK, I thought there was something malicious going on
• 48:34
  here. No, no, OK, I, I did some
• 48:36
  digging and back in the late 19th century, even early 19th
• 48:45
  century record keeping was not very good during that time,
• 48:51
  especially in in Mexico and in general.
• 48:55
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 48:56
  Well, in general, yeah, you're right.
• 48:58
  Record keeping was not great. Everything was on paper.
• 49:01
  Yeah, yeah. Well, when it came to like doing
• 49:05
  census and, and, and that sort of thing, or at least
• 49:08
  documenting families, it was a, it was only done on a voluntary
• 49:14
  basis. It wasn't required.
• 49:17
  And so I was able to trace back as far as I think it was my,
• 49:23
  let's see, first, second, third great grandfather on my paternal
• 49:29
  side. OK, paternal lineage.
• 49:31
  That's as far as I've got. There's no documentation.
• 49:35
  That's still pretty far. You're talking, what, a couple
• 49:38
  100 years? At least into the late 18th
• 49:43
  century. Yeah, yeah.
• 49:45
  Couple 100 years. Yeah, yeah.
• 49:48
  Yeah, that's true. And and just Mexico.
• 49:52
  Yeah, yeah. No, well, that's just, you know,
• 49:55
  that's, that's that one line. But I found out that there was
• 49:59
  some Scottish. Oh, right on.
• 50:01
  You got to have both sides Spanish in there too because
• 50:04
  Castillo is not a Mexican, it's a Spanish.
• 50:06
  No, no, no. It's, it's a, it comes from a
• 50:08
  name that originates from Spain. Sure.
• 50:09
  OK, so so that's where I was going with that question about
• 50:12
  Mexico, because then you got the Santa the what is it?
• 50:15
  The the what the fuck were they? The Santa, The Santa Maria?
• 50:18
  The. Those are the pilgrims.
• 50:20
  Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. But.
• 50:22
  You're talking about the Neenah Pizza and Center?
• 50:24
  Christopher Columbus. There you go.
• 50:26
  Yeah, that was Columbus. Yeah, that was that was 15th
• 50:29
  century, late 15th century, 1492.
• 50:32
  Sorry. Sorry, sorry.
• 50:33
  I was, you know, I was trying to put.
• 50:35
  So now you'd have to go back like, what was it?
• 50:38
  Hector Cortez, the Spanish conquistadors.
• 50:43
  Now, I haven't been able to identify anything through that
• 50:47
  line, but what you know, as like the Mexican people, Mexican
• 50:55
  culture, that sort of thing originated from the indigenous
• 50:59
  population who integrated, we'll say, with the Spanish
• 51:04
  conquistadors. Yes.
• 51:07
  Which is why they speak Spanish. And Mexico used to go up all the
• 51:12
  way as far as California is and Nevada and Utah.
• 51:16
  And so, yeah, when? And Arizona.
• 51:18
  And Texas. And Arizona and Texas.
• 51:20
  Absolutely. Yes, Yeah, yeah.
• 51:22
  We just, you know, Spanish man, before we sucked that right up.
• 51:26
  Yeah, we just took it from them. Yeah, pretty much.
• 51:29
  But yeah, I've, I've been, I've gone down some interesting
• 51:32
  little rabbit holes. I mean, obviously I found out
• 51:34
  more, more stuff on my mother's side because.
• 51:37
  I would be curious for you to to find out the Castillo like where
• 51:40
  that Spanish descent came from now.
• 51:44
  Well, you know, I'm unfortunately, I hit a brick
• 51:46
  wall. You know, I got as far as my
• 51:48
  third great grandfather and that was it.
• 51:50
  And his name was Crispin, believe it or not.
• 51:53
  That Crispin. Castillo, OH.
• 51:54
  Yeah. Spelled CRI with AC or yeah.
• 51:58
  Yeah, spelled with AC. Not like Crispin Glover.
• 52:01
  You know who? Crispin Glover.
• 52:02
  Is right. It's spelled the exact same way.
• 52:04
  That's awesome. Yeah.
• 52:06
  I love that name. Yeah, I wonder if they call them
• 52:09
  crispy for short. No, I probably call them chewy.
• 52:15
  There you. Go.
• 52:17
  I'm sure I got a relative named Chewy somewhere.
• 52:19
  Any, any dark side, any like mobsters and shit, any, any, you
• 52:22
  know, serial killer. OK.
• 52:25
  Well, yeah. Killers.
• 52:26
  Yes. Really.
• 52:28
  Right on. I'll get to that.
• 52:30
  I'll get to. OK, OK, cool.
• 52:31
  But I am in fact related to somebody famous.
• 52:35
  Right on. Do tell Michael Casteel.
• 52:37
  Gene Roddenberry. No shit.
• 52:40
  Really. Yes, Star Trek feels like a
• 52:42
  second. Or third cousin removed or
• 52:45
  something like that. Yeah, and Gene Roddenberry.
• 52:47
  It's on my mother's side of the family.
• 52:50
  The Roddenberries. Yeah, we're related to the
• 52:53
  Roddenberries. Yeah, Star Trek, right?
• 52:55
  Yep, creator Star Trek just. Just because some people won't
• 52:57
  know. So Roddenberry.
• 52:59
  Star Trek case They've lived under a rock anytime.
• 53:02
  Well, but you know, think about it in our world now.
• 53:05
  Right. It's like.
• 53:06
  Little man's not gonna know who Star Trek is.
• 53:08
  Yeah, but I don't expect little man he will in time.
• 53:12
  That's just one of those things that's so ingrained in our
• 53:14
  culture. In about 5 years, he's going to
• 53:16
  know what Star Trek is too. Everybody knows what?
• 53:18
  Well, all right, so 20 years ago, you could say the name Gene
• 53:21
  Roddenberry and people knew who that was.
• 53:24
  But nowadays you say the name Gene Roddenberry and they're
• 53:27
  like, who? And I'm like, how could you not
• 53:30
  know, man? This.
• 53:30
  Creator of Star Trek? Absolutely.
• 53:33
  But yeah, where I'm, I'm, I am related to him.
• 53:36
  Cool, who's the killer? I knew.
• 53:39
  My grandfather, really. How many people did he kill?
• 53:42
  Crispin 2. Oh, right on.
• 53:44
  Goodbyes. Good guys, bad guys.
• 53:47
  No. No idea.
• 53:49
  No, no, I know. Oh, it was my my grandmother and
• 53:52
  my great grandmother. Oh, that's not good.
• 53:54
  No shit. What happened there?
• 53:56
  That's not good. I don't know all the details but
• 54:00
  it happened it I think it was April 9th, 1966 in Brunswick,
• 54:07
  GA. Wow, just bad day.
• 54:12
  Yep, bad day. This sucks.
• 54:14
  Yeah. But.
• 54:16
  I am. I'm coming to discover that
• 54:19
  there's a lot of stuff like that on that side of the family.
• 54:23
  Oh, OK, violence. So that's your dad's side?
• 54:26
  No, that was my mom's side. Your.
• 54:28
  Mom's side, OK, Your mom's side. So your dad's side is more
• 54:30
  vanilla. Mom's side is like, we're going
• 54:32
  to shake the pot up a little bit.
• 54:34
  We're going to stir the shit. Yeah.
• 54:35
  OK, Yeah. Although, OK, so yeah, now my
• 54:39
  father had a very explosive temper.
• 54:42
  He was Vietnam vet, My grandfather was a World War 2
• 54:47
  vet. That's his father.
• 54:51
  And an interesting little story I'll share with you about my
• 54:56
  grandfather to my entire childhood.
• 54:59
  First of all, I grew up only knowing one grandparent, him.
• 55:03
  That's it. Interesting.
• 55:05
  So the concept of having more than one grandparent was
• 55:09
  completely foreign to me most of my childhood.
• 55:13
  OK, I didn't understand how you could have more than one because
• 55:17
  that's all I grew up with. What do you mean you guys?
• 55:20
  Too was my grandfather, his name was Agapito Castilla.
• 55:23
  Oh, that's a cool name. That is.
• 55:24
  And he went by Pete. And what what made him really
• 55:29
  interesting is growing up knowing him, he was like a
• 55:32
  really sweet guy who, like, was very encouraging.
• 55:36
  Like he wanted me to like, take school seriously.
• 55:39
  Yeah, quit chasing girls, which I've always had trouble there.
• 55:44
  Hey, man. Right.
• 55:47
  And being a singer and musician didn't make it any easier.
• 55:50
  No, in fact, that got me into poor trouble.
• 55:55
  But anyway, I digress. So my whole life I I saw this
• 56:00
  sweet man and never thought anything different until my
• 56:06
  father started to share stories about him and found out that my
• 56:10
  grandfather. This ties into the mob comment
• 56:15
  made earlier. Now I don't know which mob
• 56:20
  affiliate is involved in this story but my grandfather was.
• 56:25
  When he got out of the military he did auto body work and
• 56:31
  sometimes he did independent contracting and would often time
• 56:38
  be asked to do body repairs that involved things like bullet
• 56:45
  wounds and such. Are not wounds.
• 56:49
  I shouldn't say wounds. I know what you mean.
• 56:50
  Bullet Bullet damage. To the car.
• 56:52
  To the car, yes. Right and bullet wound to the
• 56:55
  car. Yeah, bullet wound to the car.
• 56:57
  And as I understand it, he had done that regularly and whoever
• 57:02
  the mob person was was so impressed by that kind of hired
• 57:07
  him on full time. See, I never thought about that
• 57:09
  angle. Yeah, they had.
• 57:11
  They had to get all these cars repaired.
• 57:13
  They can't. Couldn't just take them
• 57:14
  anywhere. But it's but it's kind of like 2
• 57:17
  in the John Wicks, right? The first John Wick, when he
• 57:19
  when he kills all the guys in his house, he has the the crew
• 57:23
  come over pays him. A couple.
• 57:24
  That's a couple chunks ago. So that's I mean, that's another
• 57:28
  side gig for you know, you know, and that guy, I don't know if
• 57:31
  you realize this, but the guy that the main character that
• 57:33
  would that ran the crew that cleaned up the shit.
• 57:36
  Remember the movie The Warriors? Yeah.
• 57:39
  Warriors come out. That was him, man.
• 57:43
  Shit, that was him. I don't I forget his name too
• 57:46
  because he said all these really cool little roles.
• 57:49
  He's a great character actor. Yeah, my my favorite movie with
• 57:52
  him was Last Man Standing with Bruce Willis.
• 57:54
  Absolutely. Oh yeah.
• 57:56
  I went to the movie theater to see that.
• 57:58
  I loved that movie. Me too.
• 58:00
  Of course I'm I'm a huge Christopher Walken fan.
• 58:02
  Me too. We have that in common as.
• 58:04
  Well I heard Christopher Walken fan Who?
• 58:06
  Who is that dude? He's AI mean 7 psychopaths.
• 58:08
  One of my. Favorite movies?
• 58:09
  No question. No.
• 58:11
  Question. That was great, and for a time,
• 58:16
  I don't know if I told you what I used to do professionally or
• 58:19
  if I've. Mentioned that at all.
• 58:20
  Weren't you a pimp? Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 58:23
  Oh, yeah, absolutely. The hat should tell you it's a
• 58:25
  good no. I I used to be a nurse.
• 58:30
  Oh nice. Yeah, worked in a lot of ERS,
• 58:37
  but you know, my career was diverse.
• 58:39
  I did a bunch of other things as well.
• 58:41
  Ended up I think the last nursing job I did was in
• 58:44
  corrections. We could do a whole podcast on
• 58:48
  that. Oh yeah.
• 58:50
  Oh yeah, absolutely. It led to me doing a lot of self
• 58:54
  reflecting. Sure you know, but really can't.
• 58:58
  Imagine. There he is.
• 59:00
  It was, it was an interesting experience, it really was.
• 59:03
  There he is. That's him.
• 59:05
  That's. David Patrick Kelly.
• 59:07
  David Patrick Kelly, that's. Him.
• 59:08
  Yep. Yeah.
• 59:09
  They're good. Look at there he is.
• 59:10
  There's Last man standing dreams, Dreamscape.
• 59:13
  If you remember Dreamscape. Dreamscape.
• 59:15
  Great. Dude, yeah, he played.
• 59:17
  He played the bad guy. Yes he did.
• 59:18
  So you got the Warriors term Commando Dreamscape.
• 59:21
  Was that does it say Chris? Dreamscape 1984 is Dreamscape
• 59:25
  that's a. Great.
• 59:25
  I went to the theaters. That was Dennis Quaid.
• 59:28
  Yeah, look at that. Look at that.
• 59:31
  Hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, hit.
• 59:36
  Fucking hit. That's what I said.
• 59:37
  He's a great character actor one.
• 59:39
  Of my favorite movies. Fucking right.
• 59:40
  The original. The original.
• 59:42
  Pro Yes. Yep, adventures of Ford
• 59:44
  Fairlane, OH. I love that movie.
• 59:46
  That was a great movie too. John Jereo is John Westclay Hit
• 59:50
  hit. It's just, I mean, the dude just
• 59:55
  he's a great character actor. Just all these movies, man.
• 59:57
  There's very much, though. Beverly Hills Cop hit Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  So anyway, giving back to the whole Christopher Walken.
• 1:00:09
  Thing, Right, right, right. Right.
• 1:00:11
  I idolized him to a point where I started to imitate him.
• 1:00:15
  For fun, I would do impressions of Christopher Walken.
• 1:00:19
  I I don't know if I can do it. Come on, come on, come on.
• 1:00:21
  You got to do it now. You can do it better, neither
• 1:00:23
  one of us. I'll, I'll, I'll give it a shot,
• 1:00:26
  but I'll tell you who my inspiration was.
• 1:00:29
  In order for me to get Christopher Walken down, I
• 1:00:31
  couldn't just watch Christopher Walken.
• 1:00:34
  I had to watch people who imitated him, right.
• 1:00:37
  And the one person who I thought did the absolute best impression
• 1:00:42
  of Christopher Walken was Kevin Pollak.
• 1:00:45
  OK, no shit. His impression?
• 1:00:48
  Of it is good just. For walking is spot.
• 1:00:51
  On it is good. Because back in his early career
• 1:00:54
  as a stand up comic, he would do Shatner.
• 1:00:57
  He'd do walk in and, and, and a couple other people, but Walken
• 1:01:01
  and Shatner were his two like favorites that he would do cool.
• 1:01:05
  And so I was just like, you know what, I'm going to watch Pollock
• 1:01:08
  do Christopher Walken and just do an imitation of that.
• 1:01:12
  And so that's what I ended up doing.
• 1:01:13
  And like, I was at the time, I was working in this orthopedic
• 1:01:18
  office. So I was a orthopedic nurse and
• 1:01:22
  I was. Torturing.
• 1:01:24
  Literally torturing my Co workers doing this impression
• 1:01:28
  daily. They'd be like hey Mike, listen
• 1:01:32
  we got somebody like no not yet. It's important we take care of
• 1:01:39
  ourselves first. Definitely that's that's
• 1:01:47
  probably the best. That's that's that's.
• 1:01:50
  Fucking awesome. That was really good, dude.
• 1:01:51
  Yeah. I was.
• 1:01:53
  I was going to riff. I was going to riff off you with
• 1:01:55
  my Tony Montana political refugee.
• 1:01:56
  Oh, man, don't even think it started on Tony Montana.
• 1:01:59
  But then I used to. Yeah.
• 1:02:01
  Yeah. We used to watch Scarface for
• 1:02:03
  fun. Yeah.
• 1:02:04
  Oh, yeah. And we like back and forth.
• 1:02:06
  We do lines back and forth. You know that.
• 1:02:08
  Omar, I never like him. He was synonymous.
• 1:02:11
  I know he could have got my friend Angel Fernandez.
• 1:02:13
  Q Mr. Salsa. Oh, yeah.
• 1:02:18
  Tony. Tony.
• 1:02:19
  Tony. I got one rule, Tony.
• 1:02:21
  Don't you ever fuck me, Tony. Right.
• 1:02:23
  Don't you ever fuck me, Mr. Salsa.
• 1:02:27
  I never fucked anybody who didn't have to call me.
• 1:02:32
  And then my favorite all time was her womb is so polluted she
• 1:02:37
  never give me no babies. Yeah, that is one of the
• 1:02:40
  greatest lines ever. Let's just talk a moment about
• 1:02:44
  Michelle Pfeiffer. Yeah, like she's my hall pass.
• 1:02:47
  Oh. Yeah, it's always been my hall
• 1:02:49
  pass. She's still fucking a beautiful
• 1:02:51
  woman. I follow on Instagram.
• 1:02:52
  She's. Gorgeous.
• 1:02:53
  She's like she's aging, graceful.
• 1:02:54
  She's married to oh I forgot I lost his name, but he's.
• 1:02:58
  She's married to the dude that's behind The Sopranos.
• 1:03:01
  OK, OK. Oh, David Crane.
• 1:03:03
  Yes, David Kelly. David Kelly.
• 1:03:07
  I thought it was David Kelly. Maybe it's David Crane, but
• 1:03:10
  that's who she's married to. Maybe I'm OK, maybe I'm
• 1:03:12
  combining two people into one. I do that sometimes.
• 1:03:16
  I used to have several hall passes like Jennifer Love Hewitt
• 1:03:21
  was 1 for me. Yeah, David Kelly, David E
• 1:03:24
  Kelly. He's the guy.
• 1:03:25
  That was David. E Kelly Yeah, that sounds about
• 1:03:27
  right. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:29
  David Kelly not. Jennifer loves The Sopranos
• 1:03:32
  though. Jennifer Love Hewitt, she was in
• 1:03:36
  We just watched that I know the the, the the remake of I know
• 1:03:40
  What you did Last summer, the 2. 1025 basically it's supposed to
• 1:03:43
  pick up after. Well, yeah, I don't know, but we
• 1:03:45
  were, we were in probably like an hour into it.
• 1:03:47
  And I looked at Nikki. I'm like, that's Jennifer Love
• 1:03:50
  Hewitt, man. She got some Jlo hips now.
• 1:03:52
  Yeah, I don't, I don't. She was this nice little, sweet,
• 1:03:54
  petite little woman. Now she's got the big old Jlo
• 1:03:56
  hips. Yeah.
• 1:03:58
  And and you didn't know that until she until you hit a full
• 1:04:00
  I'm like, holy shit, Jlo. And it's like, wow, OK,
• 1:04:03
  menopause hit her hard. No, no, actually I think that
• 1:04:08
  she has aged like fine wine and looks like like my ideal woman.
• 1:04:14
  OK. That's me.
• 1:04:16
  That's me. No, it's a no.
• 1:04:17
  I just I just because in my head, James Love Hugh is that
• 1:04:20
  little petite little tiny little thing.
• 1:04:23
  And so I haven't seen her one forever.
• 1:04:24
  That's not my, that's not my frame.
• 1:04:26
  On So I haven't seen her forever.
• 1:04:28
  So when, yeah. So when she pulled, when we
• 1:04:31
  figured out that was her, I was like, wow.
• 1:04:34
  But yeah, it's, you know, I ain't mad at you.
• 1:04:36
  Just saying to me I. Just don't hate on me, man.
• 1:04:38
  Stop hating. Yeah, stop hating, man.
• 1:04:42
  You're bringing me down. Don't bring me kill my vibe.
• 1:04:47
  I can't. I can't even fake being mad at
• 1:04:49
  him. It's hard.
• 1:04:52
  Don't get mad. Well, it just doesn't.
• 1:04:54
  Happen. Don't get mad.
• 1:04:55
  Get even. Don't do it.
• 1:04:56
  Yeah, don't. Do it, Don't do it.
• 1:04:57
  Don't. Do it.
• 1:04:58
  We're all going to start doing it.
• 1:04:59
  Don't do it. I can't do impression, so mine's
• 1:05:02
  going. To suck, you know, what I want
• 1:05:03
  to do is I want to memorize the monologue that he does in that
• 1:05:08
  movie, Man on Fire with Denzel Washington.
• 1:05:10
  We were just talking. About that this afternoon.
• 1:05:13
  That's so crazy. How did I shit?
• 1:05:15
  You not. I stopped by the union hall in
• 1:05:16
  my bargaining chairman and our recording secretary and the
• 1:05:20
  first Chef committee men were there, and we were literally
• 1:05:23
  talking about all these great movies that Denzel Washington
• 1:05:28
  and Christopher Walken and yeah, who's the other big actor that's
• 1:05:33
  in that? Let's see, I got to say, well,
• 1:05:37
  Dakota Fanning, that's an early. That was the other one that Chad
• 1:05:41
  mentioned, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:44
  But yeah, that's one of my favorite movies.
• 1:05:45
  I used to own that I got to. Watch it again dude, I can't
• 1:05:48
  play. I told those guys if Christopher
• 1:05:50
  Watkins in it, I have 100% seen it because I've seen all his
• 1:05:54
  movies. But I cannot place that movie,
• 1:05:56
  so I got to watch it again. There's a movie with Christopher
• 1:05:59
  Walken. He did it in the 80s.
• 1:06:00
  If I remember it's it's either early 90s or late 80s where he
• 1:06:04
  was a vampire. Hold on one second.
• 1:06:05
  Cannot think of name that movie. Do you know Man on Fire, Chris?
• 1:06:09
  Do you know the movies they're talking?
• 1:06:10
  About. Yeah, man.
• 1:06:11
  Yeah, I think so. Hold on.
• 1:06:13
  I gotta watch a remake. I I gotta watch this again, I
• 1:06:17
  just. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:20
  Yeah, that's a great. That's the second time today,
• 1:06:21
  like literally within an hour and a half I've heard that name,
• 1:06:24
  that name of that movie. Yeah, yeah, some two.
• 1:06:26
  It's 2004. It's an alcoholic, despondent
• 1:06:29
  CIA agent turned bodyguard. Yeah, yeah, It may.
• 1:06:33
  It may. That was a bad time in my life,
• 1:06:36
  Mikey. There you go.
• 1:06:37
  That's why I probably don't remember it.
• 1:06:38
  I probably watched it, but I literally probably don't
• 1:06:41
  remember it. Well, I saw it.
• 1:06:43
  My wife and I just got married and we were expecting our first
• 1:06:47
  child. And I bought the DVD because,
• 1:06:51
  you know, back in those days it was DVDs that was the thing to
• 1:06:54
  get. Yeah, yeah, I used to buy those
• 1:06:57
  blank ones and then somehow, yeah.
• 1:06:59
  Somehow portable ones. Somehow a movie would magically
• 1:07:01
  appear on the other side of that blank.
• 1:07:03
  I don't know how that happened, but I ended up with hundreds of
• 1:07:06
  those. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:07
  I didn't have any money back. Then so I I had a pretty
• 1:07:10
  extensive library of movies that some sort of some somehow
• 1:07:15
  appeared on blank discs. Yeah, dude.
• 1:07:18
  I had, I had. I would get the VC.
• 1:07:23
  Hey, we lost your audio, buddy. I can't hear you.
• 1:07:29
  I can't hear your voice. It's like you got to shorten
• 1:07:31
  your mic or something. Or you unplug.
• 1:07:33
  Yeah, make sure. Your chords plugged in either.
• 1:07:36
  On your microphone it was when you touched the mic.
• 1:07:42
  Ah, it came unplugged, ah. There we go.
• 1:07:44
  See. Singer moment.
• 1:07:46
  I know my electronics. Oh, no, no.
• 1:07:51
  When I When I. Was during on a show once I had
• 1:07:53
  the mic going and knocked the cord from the mic but kept going
• 1:07:59
  and thought I was doing great. What were you saying?
• 1:08:02
  I was saying that I, I had that. No, you're fine.
• 1:08:05
  I said probably, you know, 1000 VHVHS tapes and they all had at
• 1:08:10
  least three movies on them and I'm talking.
• 1:08:13
  I remember seeing your collection.
• 1:08:15
  From 19, yeah, from 1980 on, because I, I was home so much
• 1:08:19
  with asthma and shit that I would just, you know, we had, we
• 1:08:22
  had the movie channels and I would put it in a recorder and I
• 1:08:25
  just, you know, I mean, I fucking had everything you can
• 1:08:27
  think of. I mean, just just stuff that you
• 1:08:29
  can't find now. Like there's a couple movies I
• 1:08:32
  would love to find. That was then.
• 1:08:33
  This is now one of the Emilio Estevez and flicks.
• 1:08:36
  Right. He's another one that I like a
• 1:08:39
  lot of people. It's a love him or hate him as
• 1:08:41
  an actor, I love that guy as an. Actor I love Emilio Estevez as
• 1:08:44
  an actor. I think he did an awesome job in
• 1:08:47
  Young Guns. They're supposed to come out
• 1:08:48
  with. Their movies.
• 1:08:49
  They're supposed to be doing another one.
• 1:08:50
  Young guns was cool because of the like like loved westerns,
• 1:08:54
  right. So the long riders, if you'd if
• 1:08:55
  you'd never heard of the long riders, that kind of brought the
• 1:08:58
  westerns back to the. Forefront.
• 1:08:59
  I watched it after we talked about it.
• 1:09:01
  By the way. Great movie, thank you.
• 1:09:03
  Yes, the Carradine, the, the Carradine brothers, the the
• 1:09:05
  Quaid brothers, the Keats brothers.
• 1:09:12
  Fuck. What?
• 1:09:15
  Shit, David. Yeah, OK, that was right.
• 1:09:17
  Right. Somebody else.
• 1:09:19
  Yeah, there's, there's four sets of brothers in it.
• 1:09:21
  It's amazing. But then young guns, young guns
• 1:09:24
  did this, did what Long Riders did.
• 1:09:26
  It brought Westerns back to the forefront.
• 1:09:29
  Right, with and then music kind of twist, yeah.
• 1:09:32
  Sick kind of twist a little bit, yeah.
• 1:09:35
  Yeah, but they're supposedly doing another one.
• 1:09:36
  They're they're supposedly in production.
• 1:09:37
  So we'll. But they nailed the timing.
• 1:09:39
  We were all, what, probably 15 when that movie came out?
• 1:09:43
  Yeah, well, I was. I was a little younger, but
• 1:09:46
  yeah. Right.
• 1:09:47
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:48
  I think it was probably like 11 or 12 maybe.
• 1:09:51
  Still all in that wheelhouse where we're going to go see it
• 1:09:54
  at the movie theater. And back then, there was no
• 1:09:56
  Internet, so we actually went to see movies.
• 1:09:58
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:09:59
  You either did that or you waited two years for it to come
• 1:10:01
  out at the video store, you know?
• 1:10:03
  Yeah, yeah. The new Superman dropped on
• 1:10:05
  freaking Netflix or something like within a month.
• 1:10:09
  HBO Max. Yeah, like serial Max, it's that
• 1:10:12
  bad. It's already here.
• 1:10:14
  No, it's. Great.
• 1:10:15
  It's just that. Watched.
• 1:10:16
  It there's so many people that don't go to the movies because
• 1:10:20
  they have these 80 inch televisions like my well, I
• 1:10:23
  don't have an 80 inch television, but I do have a 600
• 1:10:25
  Watt surround sound in my living room.
• 1:10:27
  So I don't really need to go. You know, I can shake the house
• 1:10:30
  as well as the movie theater can.
• 1:10:32
  Yeah. And I love going to the movies.
• 1:10:35
  But when you're by yourself that then you become the weird dude.
• 1:10:39
  I, I used to love going to movies, but I can't do it by
• 1:10:42
  myself. No, I've got the.
• 1:10:44
  I've got issues with like somewhat social anxiety,
• 1:10:49
  somewhat agoraphobia. Have always had trouble with
• 1:10:54
  that. That's what one of the reasons
• 1:10:56
  why I became a musician is, so I could get.
• 1:10:59
  Paid to. Nice job I.
• 1:11:00
  Always say that I have to have my emotional support person in
• 1:11:03
  whatever situation I'm in, right?
• 1:11:04
  As long as I have somebody that understands that I am kind of,
• 1:11:08
  I'm not socially awkward, but like you said, you and I kind of
• 1:11:14
  have a lot of the same weird similarities.
• 1:11:15
  So yeah, Chris was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
• 1:11:18
  I talk to everybody. I don't care if you want to talk
• 1:11:21
  to me or not. No, I, I had that problem on my
• 1:11:24
  own, but if I was with another person, like my best friend back
• 1:11:28
  home, his name's Lynn. And in a lot of my YouTube
• 1:11:32
  videos, he's the other guy in, in the videos with me, his
• 1:11:37
  name's Lynn. And that's that's will forever
• 1:11:40
  be my ride or die. 24 countries would not know who I am if he
• 1:11:44
  wouldn't have said, if he would have said no, I'm not interested
• 1:11:47
  in doing a podcast. None of this would be here.
• 1:11:49
  You would not be talking to me because I was not going to do it
• 1:11:52
  on my own. I just, I needed that
• 1:11:56
  extroverted. I've been there, done that.
• 1:11:59
  I understand how to capture people's attention.
• 1:12:02
  You know, he kind of brought me out of my shell a lot.
• 1:12:04
  Just yeah. I have him to thank for that.
• 1:12:07
  He's like, Dad, just you're talking to me, you know, we're,
• 1:12:09
  we're not talking to anybody else.
• 1:12:10
  You're just talking to me. And as soon as you said that,
• 1:12:14
  like, I became a different person.
• 1:12:15
  So I don't even think about the fact that.
• 1:12:18
  Yeah, exactly. I do not think.
• 1:12:20
  About the fact ever that we're talking to 24 countries or
• 1:12:23
  however many people are listening on YouTube and Twitch,
• 1:12:25
  I don't it never. Enters my mind.
• 1:12:28
  I'm all. Right.
• 1:12:30
  And Mike puts all these Easter eggs and shit.
• 1:12:31
  I've never watched us. I've never watched a full
• 1:12:33
  episode of of our show, but at the same time I never.
• 1:12:37
  Made two, I have to edit them. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:39
  I never listened back to my shows when I was on the radio.
• 1:12:42
  I never watched the content we made from that.
• 1:12:44
  I never, I would watch when we would record our shows.
• 1:12:48
  I'd watch it more to critique myself than to watch myself
• 1:12:52
  performing, if that makes sense. So when it comes to all all this
• 1:12:55
  stuff, it's just, I don't, I don't feel the need to watch it
• 1:12:58
  because I, I don't, I just don't.
• 1:13:00
  I mean, there's, you know, there's actors like Donald
• 1:13:01
  Sutherland never watched himself in a movie ever.
• 1:13:04
  Like never. Michael Richard never watched
• 1:13:07
  himself in Seinfeld. Michael Richard never watched
• 1:13:09
  himself at all in Seinfeld. Not a single.
• 1:13:12
  Fact. Yeah, like he just because he
• 1:13:14
  was so insecure. He's such an insecure human
• 1:13:16
  being, which is bizarre, but one.
• 1:13:19
  Of the greatest pop culture characters that has ever been
• 1:13:23
  created in the history of television, I don't care.
• 1:13:25
  Who we are Cosmo Kramer. Right, and and from a physical
• 1:13:28
  standpoint of comedy too, like it just, it was next level and
• 1:13:32
  he just, he just, he always felt he looked stupid.
• 1:13:34
  So he never watched himself. Oh my God, I don't know why.
• 1:13:36
  I don't know Donald Sutherland's excuse, but I, I remember
• 1:13:38
  watching an interview with him on the inside the actors studio
• 1:13:40
  and and the guy asked him, he's like, no, I've never watched
• 1:13:43
  myself in anything. I don't want to.
• 1:13:46
  It's all right as long as it's not pretentious.
• 1:13:49
  Right, right. Yeah.
• 1:13:52
  I'd have to hear his explanation, I guess, to make my
• 1:13:55
  own judgment, but these people that are like, I never watch my
• 1:13:58
  art. Yeah, fuck you.
• 1:14:00
  Well, I don't, they didn't say it.
• 1:14:01
  They don't watch my art. They just don't watch it.
• 1:14:03
  Like I think both of them had the same kind of reaction to it.
• 1:14:07
  It's just like they it's just, it's weird to them.
• 1:14:10
  I understand why you don't go back and listen to this, right?
• 1:14:14
  We're participants. This is a live and then
• 1:14:18
  recreated later podcast, right? We've kind of turned it into a 2
• 1:14:22
  headed animal. There's the live version, which
• 1:14:25
  a lot of people watch on YouTube and Twitch, and then there's the
• 1:14:28
  edited version, which is different and it gets released
• 1:14:30
  later. And but yeah.
• 1:14:34
  I do watch the. Short experience, I do too.
• 1:14:36
  You've already experienced it, so why go back?
• 1:14:40
  Right. It's not like a song, it's not
• 1:14:42
  like a movie. That's why I'm going to I don't
• 1:14:44
  go back and listen to the full episode either.
• 1:14:46
  I hit the highlights as I'm editing it to make sure that the
• 1:14:50
  audio is right. The video looks good.
• 1:14:52
  You know, to the best of my ability.
• 1:14:53
  I don't have so much time, but I think we do a pretty good job of
• 1:14:57
  producing a quality product. Why would he go back or me and
• 1:15:02
  listen to what we've already done?
• 1:15:04
  And it's its entirety, right, Right.
• 1:15:05
  We're moving on. This is more like a organic
• 1:15:08
  experience that keeps growing and living as a almost like its
• 1:15:13
  own entity. We're looking forward to the
• 1:15:15
  future, right? Who's the next guest?
• 1:15:17
  What are we going to learn next? What's Friday bring?
• 1:15:20
  What's Tuesday bring? Right, I got to, I got to build
• 1:15:23
  a plaque now for Michael Castillo Day, you know?
• 1:15:25
  Yep, now we yes, we owe a plaque.
• 1:15:27
  From that's got to be for sure. If I, if you see in that I'm I'm
• 1:15:32
  just, I'm going to come out of my skin, it's and.
• 1:15:34
  Then and now for sure dude. When we start when when we open
• 1:15:37
  our merchandise deal and we're starting to do T-shirts and
• 1:15:40
  stuff, the Mikey Castillo day, October 28th is going to be a
• 1:15:43
  T-shirt, I guarantee. Well, listen, if you do that,
• 1:15:45
  I'll be one of the first people to buy one.
• 1:15:48
  We're going to make it happen. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:51
  We've been talking about that. We need, we need merch.
• 1:15:53
  We just haven't done it yet. We're going to make it.
• 1:15:55
  Well, yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
• 1:15:57
  As soon as we start sponsors to do the merch for us.
• 1:16:01
  Yeah. And listen to Bruce Gambino,
• 1:16:03
  Vela Cheetah, Record Management, Marketing.
• 1:16:06
  Come on, pick us up. I'm going to throw it out there
• 1:16:08
  again, if you got if anybody owns a business and they would
• 1:16:11
  like to send us free swag, we will wear it on the air.
• 1:16:14
  We will free. I've been wearing the same hat
• 1:16:16
  for 150 episodes now, and I'm going to continue to shoot,
• 1:16:20
  support my poor Ash, Chicago Bears until somebody sends me a
• 1:16:24
  free hat. So, well, there you go.
• 1:16:25
  There you. Go Speaking of football, because
• 1:16:28
  we we and we got to wrap this up because we're we're we're you
• 1:16:31
  know, but Speaking of football, Cam scataboo.
• 1:16:34
  Do you guys see that shit? I I haven't watched football
• 1:16:38
  since 1989. Wow.
• 1:16:41
  Really. Denver Broncos, San Francisco
• 1:16:43
  49ers. That's the last Super Bowl I
• 1:16:45
  ever watched. Why is that?
• 1:16:47
  Because now I'm intrigued. Well, because I it was, I think
• 1:16:52
  it was right shortly after that, Joe Montana ended up going to
• 1:16:56
  Kansas City Chiefs. Oh, that pitch.
• 1:16:59
  And I just lost interest. Interesting.
• 1:17:02
  Cuz I'd like I, I was just like, all right, so they got that guy,
• 1:17:05
  what's his name? Sean.
• 1:17:06
  No, not Sean, but young Steve young Steve Young.
• 1:17:10
  He was a rookie then and, and, or at least he was like an
• 1:17:13
  alternate. And I thought, well, you know,
• 1:17:14
  they'll do fine with him. But I just, I mean, Joe Montana,
• 1:17:19
  I've been following him, you know?
• 1:17:22
  Little so I will say this, then you have not missed much.
• 1:17:26
  No, really, you just missed the downfall of football.
• 1:17:30
  You got you, got you. You stopped when football was
• 1:17:32
  still football, man. Yeah.
• 1:17:34
  Now, when I was in high school, I did.
• 1:17:36
  I watched more boxing than anything, like on Showtime,
• 1:17:39
  remember? Yeah.
• 1:17:40
  Oh yeah, Box, yeah. After hours, yeah.
• 1:17:42
  Boxing after dark, yeah. Real quick, real quick shout out
• 1:17:45
  to Jig. Congratulations on your fourth
• 1:17:47
  win as a professional boxer. Nice way to go, brother.
• 1:17:50
  All right, so we're going to get.
• 1:17:51
  You back on the show, Jig? Yeah, we do.
• 1:17:53
  Oh yeah, yeah, I saw that episode.
• 1:17:55
  Yeah, that guy was cool. He just had his fourth fight on
• 1:17:57
  Saturday this past Saturday and he knocked together the fuck out
• 1:18:00
  again, so way to go jig. Yeah, jigs, a good jigs jig.
• 1:18:05
  We like to jig for the simple fact that it was.
• 1:18:08
  Yeah. How you doing man?
• 1:18:09
  He remember he was so humble dude.
• 1:18:12
  And then he gets in there and just beat stuff living.
• 1:18:15
  Destroys the guy just. He's like, that's what I do, you
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  know, when I get in there, that's what they're, you know,
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  that's what the people came to see and knock them.
• 1:18:22
  Out that's the switch. That's the switch.
• 1:18:25
  Like I, I can like here I'm Chris Dunham, I go on stage, I'm
• 1:18:28
  Iron Dog. That just that you flip that
• 1:18:30
  switch, all of a sudden the whole different person takes
• 1:18:32
  over. And it completely, I have to do
• 1:18:35
  that because I am not the person that got up there at all.
• 1:18:38
  Yeah. Yeah, that's 180° move for me.
• 1:18:41
  But once I hear that first chord and I feel that air coming out
• 1:18:45
  of those speakers, yeah, it just takes over, man.
• 1:18:50
  I know what to do with that piece of wood, right?
• 1:18:52
  I can talk to you with that piece of wood way better than I
• 1:18:55
  could back then, 1,000,000% better than I could talk to you
• 1:18:59
  face to face, right? I didn't have the vocabulary
• 1:19:02
  back then. Yeah, Speaking of guitars, he
• 1:19:05
  ended up talking to the Monkey House guitar guy for like 6
• 1:19:08
  hours it seemed like after the show he kept talking.
• 1:19:12
  To you. We talked at 9:00 at night,
• 1:19:14
  right? So another three hours.
• 1:19:17
  We did an hour and 5 minute podcast or an hour and 10 minute
• 1:19:20
  podcast, Yeah. Then yeah, I ended up talking to
• 1:19:23
  him for at least another 4 hours, right?
• 1:19:25
  That's insane. That dude's bad ass, man.
• 1:19:27
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just going to take over the
• 1:19:30
  world, I hope. Let's pimp out Michael Castillo
• 1:19:33
  so we can find you on the Facebook, which is yes, whoops,
• 1:19:40
  I'm sorry, that was me. And oh, that was me and Nikki at
• 1:19:42
  Halloween. I don't know why that's up.
• 1:19:45
  That's a great, that's a great costume.
• 1:19:47
  Hey, I made. That.
• 1:19:50
  That's a still photo, kid you kid you not, that's a still
• 1:19:55
  photo. That's awesome.
• 1:19:58
  Michael. I don't.
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  Michael Castillo. Are we not friends regularly?
• 1:20:10
  We might. We must be friends on our on my
• 1:20:12
  regular page. So I just want to share this
• 1:20:15
  stuff so people know. Yeah.
• 1:20:17
  So that's the book, The cyber Dance.
• 1:20:20
  Yeah. I'm going to get that.
• 1:20:22
  It's the The Rain Chronicles book one.
• 1:20:24
  It's on Amazon, Audible. Where else?
• 1:20:29
  It's Amazon, Audible, and on iTunes.
• 1:20:33
  That's right, iTunes. So definitely go buy that book
• 1:20:36
  and then you have another one coming out in January.
• 1:20:39
  Yeah, well, no, not in January. It's going to be later.
• 1:20:43
  It'll be as early as spring. But it it just depends on what,
• 1:20:48
  how quickly I can get things wrapped up and and how long
• 1:20:51
  it'll take to for the editing process.
• 1:20:54
  OK, because the publishing is actually quite easy.
• 1:20:57
  It's the editing process that takes so damn long.
• 1:21:00
  In order to keep up with our schedule, we're going to need
• 1:21:02
  you to be done by January. Yeah, that's not happening.
• 1:21:06
  I'll just say that now. It's not happening.
• 1:21:08
  I'm just. So do you edit it or do you have
• 1:21:11
  people editing it for you? Well, I, I do it my own edits
• 1:21:16
  and then I have a guy who has a background in education, OK, who
• 1:21:24
  has is also a very close personal friend of mine cool,
• 1:21:29
  who volunteered his services right on.
• 1:21:32
  And I gracious gratefully accepted that.
• 1:21:36
  And he, he what the way he, he comes at it with editing is
• 1:21:44
  first of all, if he says it sounds corny, he's going to tell
• 1:21:47
  me it sounds corny. Good.
• 1:21:50
  And that's what I want. I want that kind of feedback,
• 1:21:53
  sure. But he is also kind of peppered
• 1:21:56
  in a few things to help me kind of get some points across.
• 1:22:01
  So he's helped me maybe reword some things a little bit
• 1:22:04
  differently. But he knows where I'm coming
• 1:22:07
  from. He he has an intimate
• 1:22:10
  understanding of the characters I've developed.
• 1:22:13
  Right on. That's cool.
• 1:22:15
  Nice. So Cyber Dance is out right now,
• 1:22:17
  Audible, Amazon and iTunes, which is cool.
• 1:22:22
  So your next one's coming out is that book two of the cyber IT?
• 1:22:24
  Will be book 2. Tentatively it's I've got a
• 1:22:28
  title, a working title, which I'll I'll give that away.
• 1:22:33
  It's going to be called the Cyber Child.
• 1:22:36
  Oh, right on. I like it.
• 1:22:37
  So. So somebody diddled somebody,
• 1:22:39
  they had a baby right on. I'm not going to give anything
• 1:22:42
  on. No, let me read this one for I'm
• 1:22:45
  going to listen to it on audible, but let me get through
• 1:22:48
  this one first for sure. But tomorrow at work, I know I'm
• 1:22:51
  going to start the Cyber Dance by Michael R Castillo, who I
• 1:22:55
  know is Mikey because I see him on the chat window all.
• 1:22:58
  The time, yeah, Yeah, Yeah. Well, you know, the.
• 1:23:00
  All right, so the whole Mikey thing, that's my friends back
• 1:23:03
  home, call me Mikey. But everybody here in Delaware,
• 1:23:08
  they. They call me Michael.
• 1:23:10
  Oh, and like my mother has emphasized, anybody she
• 1:23:14
  introduces me to as Michael, but all my friends back home will
• 1:23:19
  forever call me Mikey. Everybody calls me Mike unless
• 1:23:22
  my mom's mad at me, and then I'll know for sure because then
• 1:23:25
  I'm model for sure. Yeah, well, if my mom's pissed
• 1:23:28
  at me, it's Michael Robert. Yeah.
• 1:23:30
  Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
• 1:23:31
  I heard my middle name when I was a kid, but now even when I
• 1:23:34
  hear Michael, I know I better pay attention.
• 1:23:37
  I don't have. I don't have to worry about that
• 1:23:39
  at all. No, you don't.
• 1:23:41
  Hey, so this is this is the Kristen Mike show.
• 1:23:44
  He's Chris. I'm like, this is Michael
• 1:23:45
  Castillo. It's Michael Castillo day.
• 1:23:47
  And yeah, Mike knows because we do this with every show.
• 1:23:49
  If you are feeling depressed or suicidal, go outside and run.
• 1:23:54
  Go for run, go journal, go scream in a pillow, go workout.
• 1:23:58
  Do something that changes your mind, changes your mindset.
• 1:24:02
  Tomorrow is a better day because you're going to be in it.
• 1:24:04
  Somebody Loves You. Don't leave a hole in their
• 1:24:06
  heart. If you cannot find somebody to
• 1:24:07
  talk to you, as I pulled it up right here, 988 Lifeline, you
• 1:24:10
  can call, text and chat. They're there waiting for you
• 1:24:14
  right now to talk to them to help you go through your
• 1:24:17
  struggles. It doesn't matter what you're
• 1:24:19
  dealing with, they are here to help you.
• 1:24:21
  So there's the steps for that. So don't be that person that
• 1:24:24
  leaves a hole in somebody's heart.
• 1:24:26
  I just actually lost a friend of mine a couple weeks ago who
• 1:24:29
  decided to play Lollipop with the Revolver.
• 1:24:33
  It's a drag. He left he he left family.
• 1:24:35
  He left a wife. He left friends.
• 1:24:38
  And those are the people that suffer.
• 1:24:40
  And it sucks. It's, you know, it's not worth
• 1:24:42
  it. You know, nothing in life is, is
• 1:24:45
  that difficult that you can't find somebody to help you work
• 1:24:47
  through it. So.
• 1:24:49
  Don't be a person, like Chris always says, get a hold of us.
• 1:24:51
  If you want to hear how far down I was, I'll tell you.
• 1:24:53
  You don't get it further than that.
• 1:24:55
  So if we can find our way back, that means there's light for
• 1:24:59
  everybody. So please, absolutely.
• 1:25:01
  Absolutely. That's twice.
• 1:25:03
  And so for the for the for the original.
• 1:25:05
  Original. No, wait, what?
• 1:25:06
  It's not the original. What do we call the inaugural
• 1:25:09
  Michael Castillo Day? I'm Chris Dunham.
• 1:25:11
  He's Mike Michaels. This is the Christian Mike show.
• 1:25:13
  Until next time. See you peace.
• 1:25:16
  Love you brother, love you Michael.
• 1:25:17
  Take care of these fighters. Finally, guys, you're on the
• 1:25:19
  show. Thank you so much, Michael.
• 1:25:21
  That was a blast. Yeah.
• 1:25:23
  Thanks guys. Really.
• 1:25:44
  The place where you is. Take a moment, look until you
• 1:26:08
  see it. The.
• 1:27:28
  Come down here, we. Haven't found.
• 1:27:34
  Solely in the exam from fighting, wait for the dead,
• 1:27:40
  wait for the the wind. You ain't no creature.
• 1:27:48
  We're playing smile and you should you put it on the
• 1:27:52
  almighty day. You got a dream.
• 1:27:56
  Who in your life? The people go in every man.
• 1:28:03
  Take the trail behind your eyes. Feel the soul revolution now.
• 1:28:09
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:20
  Take a moment. Listen to your tear.
• 1:28:24
  Fight your family. To you.
• 1:28:26
  More clear. You gotta, you gotta.
• 1:28:54
  You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.