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The 80s Fitness Industry Was Unhinged... · Total Barnage

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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to Total Barnage.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today I'm joined with Charlotte Nudson.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hello.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hi Charlotte.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, today we are discussing the top ten 80s fitness and diet trends and seeing if they still hold up today.
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  SPEAKER_00: What do you think of that, Charlotte?
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get physical.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's get physical with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's get to it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And in fact, that leads us on to our first one.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the grapefruit diet.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let me give you a little explanation of what exactly this is.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's a strict plan where every meal included, grapefruits or grape juice is within it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Grapefruit juice.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: The belief it was was it contained a special enzyme that burned fat.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why people believed it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Simple rule, it was easy to follow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Quick weight loss from caloric restriction.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sounded scientific enough to sell.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what actually happened was people dropped weight fast because of a calories were extremely low, meals were repetitive, leading to less food intake.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the modern take is it's not there's no fat burning enzyme within the grapefruit, but using low calorie and high-volume foods like fruit are is a legit strategy.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Charlotte, what what are your first thoughts on the grapefruit diet?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that enzyme bromine or is that is that what's in pineapple?
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  SPEAKER_01: So there's an enzyme in fat.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what?
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  SPEAKER_00: I couldn't tell you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I feel like that's pineapple.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh well my mother has done this diet.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's not you're are you you're just having a grapefruit with every meal?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Or is it a grapefruit for every meal?
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  SPEAKER_00: There there's there's either grapefruit juice or grapefruits at each meal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh we got a simplified diet here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Breakfast looks like a grapefruit with two eggs.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lunch looks like half a grapefruit or eight ounces of unsweetened grapefruit juice, and that's it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then dinner would be half a grapefruit or grapefruit juice with meat or fish with salad.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's giving fish in a rice cake, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean it's it's a lot of grapefruit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also what does that do to your s you know, your piss?
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  SPEAKER_00: Does it make it taste like grapefruit?
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  SPEAKER_01: Stingy and stingy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, really mate, really acidic, mate.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you're having that much I mean, obviously we've got stomach acid, like it will break stuff down, but that's very acidic.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like say say you have a UTI, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: They always say don't have like orange juice or anything, because it will make your pea more acidic.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so you can only imagine what a grapefruit's gonna do.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the same kind of thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: If anything, probably slightly more acidic than an orange.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean you tasted them, but they're bitter.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh I like a grapefruit, but I cannot be doing that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And your teeth, your enamel will be screaming from how acidic that is, plus the sugar in it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And in my opinion, like if you're having the grapefruit, every single meal, like it's fruit is great, right?
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm never gonna be like, don't do that, but it's gonna spike your blood sugar levels up if that's like a big portion of your meal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean it's every meal.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's in i everyone should have a little bit more fruit in their diet.
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  SPEAKER_00: No one really eats enough fruit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some people are scared of fruit, but that's crazy.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, at least there's protein in there.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're getting eggs at breakfast and and and some meat and fish at dinner.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, it's a pretty crap diet.
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  SPEAKER_00: So restrictive.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I guess that's why people saw results on it because they were like, shit, I got a summer holiday in eight weeks.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna just do a grapefruit diet.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's yo-yo dieting, isn't it, at the end of the day?
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  SPEAKER_00: And then they they lose a bunch of fat.
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  SPEAKER_00: They don't really learn anything about nutrition, they just follow a very restrictive diet.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um on a scale of one to ten, Charlotte, what'd you give the grapefruit diet?
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  SPEAKER_01: Four.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think I think I'm gonna introduce something called the lemon diet.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so you can only eat lemons, but no one's gonna eat it.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you have to just suck on them as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the only sup um sustenance you can have.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm gonna give the grapefruit diet a three out of ten.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's pretty it's pretty bad.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um also completely disregards getting your five a day in, doesn't it?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean at least you're getting five grapefruits in a day.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
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  SPEAKER_01: True.
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  SPEAKER_01: It depends how you play it out, doesn't it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you if you had a balanced meal with that, then cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: But if you're just having a grapefruit and then like one other thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lunch is just grapefruit or grapefruit juice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's so peak.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'd be so hungry and upset.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's probably what you're consuming, probably what a max of like 900 calories.
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  SPEAKER_00: If that's Yeah, I I know it's like, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, two eggs is what a hundred and forty, a hundred and fifty calories at school.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like a spag bowl in a day.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, fuck all.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're you're not eating a whole lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: Heavily restriction, uh, not teaching you anything about nutrition.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're gonna drop weight fast, you're gonna get some form of gratification for the work you're putting in, so hence why people do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But an all-rout and crap dart, I give it a three out of six.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ross and teeth.
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  SPEAKER_01: I actually drop my mark to a two.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, it's it's it's pretty appalling.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, on to number two aerobics, the Jane Fonda era.
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  SPEAKER_01: This was a proper classic.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now I I'm a big fan of aerobics, I'm a big fan of getting anyone moving.
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  SPEAKER_00: So uh for those who don't know, this is a dance-based cardio workout at home popularized by Jane Fonda through Viet Chess tapes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it exploded because it was accessible, there was no gym needed, uh, it was fun and social, and first time fitness was marketed heavily to women.
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  SPEAKER_00: What worked, it was high energy expenditure, there was the community vibe, there it was fun, and it was people could stay consistent with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: What it lacked was there was no strength training and there was no progressive overload.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it is basically so the modern take is it's basically the blueprint for monet modern fitness groups, hip workouts, and Peloton style content.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um see I I'm a big advocate of this, you know, having fun, working out as a group, um moving the body, getting a good cardio workout in, it's not going to necessarily make you super strong.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I I think bring back aerobics personally.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's 100%.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, I've been trying to get you to do it for years, but yeah, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: My mum's an aerobic, she my mum is a trained aerobics instructor, she used to she used to teach aerobics, and actually they do sometimes use like little dumbbells and stuff in them, and like uh the ankle weights and stuff, so bring it back, mate.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: That that that was like the blueprint that I want to look more toned.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_01: Get some aerobics, Downy Girl.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I guess it's similar to the Pilates girls at the moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: I reckon it's the same sort of people, just a bit more sweaty, a little bit more sweaty, a bit more music going.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I like it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it I would get involved with some of aerobics if it was at Barn Gym.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, you get all dressed up again.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, get your leg warmers on.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, if you're doing if you were to do like three aerobics workouts a week and one or two strength sessions, you're gonna be in an amazing shape.
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  SPEAKER_01: My mum had a banging board when she used to aerobics.
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  SPEAKER_01: Did she now?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she did.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cuss yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll get I'll get you a picture.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then and then we've got Jack Charlotte, strength trainer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my mum is so different to me.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm s my mum is such an almond mum, and I'm I'm a beef girl.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, of recently a beef girl.
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  SPEAKER_01: Of recent, yeah, no, no, I'm just uh I'm just a balanced meal and heavy resistance training girl, but yeah, mum mum is proper almond mum, Pilates.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, accessible, community driven, fun, yeah, cardio workout, brilliant.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give aerobics a 8 out of 10 just purely because people would have been misled slightly to looking at the instructors thinking I want to look like them, and the instructor was probably doing some strength training.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh so I think you know it gives you a toned and thin physique if you were to do it a lot, uh, alongside some form of uh caloric restriction and and and healthy diet.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's not going to really build like a muscular strong physique.
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  SPEAKER_00: So aerobics on its own, you know, eight out of ten, but it combined with strength training, I reckon it's up towards a ten out of ten.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's good cardio workout.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: I agree, second that heavily.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, and also uh community vibe because a lot of people would do it with other people.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, or just following on the videos.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's nice to follow along and good people are scared of the gym.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, eight out of ten.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, so we're going on to the cabbage soup diet.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, this was marketed as lose 10 pounds in seven days.
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  SPEAKER_00: The diet consists of eat eat as much cabbage soup as you would want for a week, plus minimum minimal extras on certain days.
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  SPEAKER_00: So day one would be eat only fruits except bananas and have as much cabbage soup as you want.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then day two would be start the day with a baked potato and then eat only vegetables and cabbage soup.
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  SPEAKER_00: Day three would be eat only fruit and vegetables, except for bananas and starchy vegetables with some cabbage soup.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then day four would be eat only bananas, milk and yogurt with some cabbage soup.
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  SPEAKER_00: Day five, eat only tomatoes and protein like fish.
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  SPEAKER_00: Finally get some protein in and some cabbage soup again.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a bit of a trend here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Day seven, eat only protein and veggies.
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  SPEAKER_00: No starchy vegetables though, and some cabbage soup, of course.
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  SPEAKER_00: Extra cabbage.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then on day seven, eat only fruits, vegetables, juices, no bananas or starchy vegetables, and some cabbage soup to top it off.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, what a diet.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, what are your first thoughts on that one, Charlotte?
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you certainly wouldn't be constipated, and you'd probably be farting quite a lot.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_01: Cabbage.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: Brassica farts, everyone.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: Brassica farts.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: Brassica farts.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: Brassica farts.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think there would be some earthquake farts going on in the world.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: You would be tooting out the gaff, mate.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: I I think it would be make for a very explosive toilet experience.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: Toot and carmoon.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: A few times a day, or if not several.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh just look, whole foods, brilliant.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: Five a day.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we're avoiding uh ultra-processed foods, great.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: You're getting fruit and vegetables in, but where's the fucking protein?
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, in this week, we've only got one day where we're able to have fro uh protein, and it's it recommends fish and turkey.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so very lean sources.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Massive calorie restriction.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're not gonna be eating a whole lot of things.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna be feeling very tired.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: And the majority, let's be honest, of those 10 pounds in seven days, which is their marketing they used, is probably water and glycogen retention just dropping down.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly that.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so not a lot, there would be fat loss, don't get me wrong, you're in a heavy calorie restriction, but you would see that probably that initial weight loss, which would be your glycogen and water dropping down very quickly, and then you're like, oh my god, it works, I'm gonna do it.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, loads, loads of muscle mass, heavily restricted diet, probably gonna teach you some bad eating habits.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: Great fibre intake, great fibre intake though, like an A plus on the fibre.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: A nice little, probably a nice little reset for your digestive system.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: If you're someone who looks bloated a lot, uh you're gonna be very fluid, so everything you might feel a lot tighter around the waistline.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, just just just in terms of like a balanced macro standpoint, pretty poor.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: Good amount of micronutrients in there, good vitamins, good with minerals, but yeah, you need you need your protein, man.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: You need you need your fats.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: Fats, really, especially like for hormone health as well and cell health, like just you need good fat.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: There's there's no there's no fats and protein in there.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean carbs.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine the way you would be feeling on this diet.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're probably getting 50 to 60 grams of carbs a day from the vegetables, but that's pretty much it.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: Hormone function would be at an all-time low, you'd be feeling like crap.
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  SPEAKER_00: But unfortunately, in the 80s, people didn't really have the abundance of information from the internet uh back then, and you you probably get a lot of um very one-sided diet books where they're preaching that the the cabbage soup diet, and you you probably read it and believe it, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um so it's unfortunate that people being misled with nutrition.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um Imagine a lot of models doing that diet.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I I I bet.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: You know, there's a there's an even more interesting diet coming later on, which all the celebs would have been doing.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but I I give the cabbage soup diet a I give it a lower score than the grapefruit one.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: I give it a two out of ten.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: I guess yeah, because you haven't got the leniency to have the extra bits.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: They're getting one macronutrient in.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: There's no there's no fats and there's no protein, there's just carbs.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so fibre.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like how it's like no banana.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if they included some protein and like some healthy fats in each meal, it'd be a pretty solid diet.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, fully.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: It because of that, I mean the macronutrients are essential for life, and you're not getting any.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: Stinky.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: What do you what would you put the cabbage soup diet?
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's hard because I wouldn't have marked it higher than the grapefruit diet just for variety, but no protein.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: Do it.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm gonna give it I'm just gonna match it with the I'm gonna bring my original grapefruit score back to three and then put the cabbage to two.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, cool.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll we're going back into exercise now.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: This one I I wasn't too familiar with until I saw the photo.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's called the Thigh Master.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, is it that one?
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_01: My mum has one of those.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: So this was a resistance device you could squeeze in between your legs and tone your thighs.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, so they're good.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: So it targeted a specific insecurity, the inner thigh.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: This is why the marketing works.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, mate.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: It was easy to use use at home and it looked effortless.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, a lot of women wanted that thigh gap, I suppose.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_00: So they were like, Yeah, let's just train your adductors and uh yeah, I guess.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I and there was a bunch of other body weight exercises partnered with this, but the Thigh Master was uh heavily marketed, did very well.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: Lots of women across the world followed it.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, I mean it's it's just not much resistance.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: I can see the appeal, you can do it behind closed doors.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: You can get heavier resistance ones as well.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: My mum actually had two of those.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: So, fun fact, they still sometimes use them in Pilates, so you can use them to but that's just to literally engage your adductors.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, say you're on a reformer, sometimes you'll put it between your legs and then you put your feet up and you're but at least Pilates is focusing on the full body, right?
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is very acutely just focusing on the lower body, perhaps again falling into that trap of women should only train lower body and not upper body.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: Back then that was it, that was a thing.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: They wanted tone legs and nothing else.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: Well, toned legs and toned up abs and didn't want any other skinny arms.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: Skinny arms, yes.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there would have been cabbage darting and thigh mastering away.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's for sure.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um so thigh master, I mean it's it's so acute, uh acutely focused on the lower body.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: Sure, there was some other workouts that went alongside it, but I don't give it anywhere near what aerobics does.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'd I'd give it about 4.5 out of ten.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: At least it's something something's better than nothing.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: I could uh I could see the benefits of it.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um just strengthen up readactus, also could potentially help with pelvic floor strength.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: For some women, so yeah, again.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: But then it crushes.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what happens then?
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: You could do that.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: I could.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: We should get we should do that.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_01: Be a good bit of content.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: Use your final ranking.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: On the 6th of May we'll do that.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, final ranking, I would say that's the barn, Jim.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: Is it the cameraman's got all excited now?
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Ben behaviour.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: Calm down.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Ben's excited to cross watermelon himself.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: He says licking his lips.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 100%.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: Big watermelon, it's easy to crush them.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's it with the chest.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I would rank it a four.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, right.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: Well, moving on to number five, we're we're coming on to halfway through the list now, and that this is a new diet.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: The low fat diet craze.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so fat was blamed for obesity because fat makes you fat, right?
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Well, no, not particularly.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: And and what went wrong with it is when fat was removed, a lot of taste uh uh was gone.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, there was a lot more sugar added uh to return the taste of food.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: More people ate more because they thought it was to be healthy, but they were just loading up crazily on um processed foods.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: Pringles and other popular brands brought out their fat-free crisps, so pay people just overindulged in them.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um it didn't exclude any processed foods, it was just actually the diet was probably more so based around processed foods because brands could market as you know fat, uh, therefore people would deem it as healthy and eat more of it.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, as as we know, we've got three macronutrients carbs, fats, and protein.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh fats are absolutely essential for our bodies to function uh correctly, affecting our hormones, our focus, our satiety levels, how well we sleep.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: I mean it absolutely everything is skin and hair and your nails.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: Every single part of your body r requires fat to function correctly.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um and removing it completely, uh not only is it gonna uh increase your hunger and reduce the quality of sleep um and your skin, but it's also gonna make you binge on other foods because you're you you're gonna be so hungry because it's very dense per calorie, a gram of fat's about nine calories, uh, whereas carbs and proteins are about four calories per gram.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um can help stabilise your blood sugar levels as well, can't it?
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean there's there's so so many benefits, and um I think a lot of people just thought low fat, that's gonna be helpful for me.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'll I'll eat loads of that because it's it's it's good.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um a lot of volume eating probably going on there.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so much salad.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's just a shame that, you know, because that that really comes from misinformation.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, that that whole premise of the diet.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um dum-dum era.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's just you could get away with it in the 80s though, because there wasn't really the internet, and you could say, Oh yeah, we're doing the fat-free diet.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: My mate, you know, she lost 10 pounds, you should do it.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: And again, really paints a bad picture on what you should eat when you're dieting.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: You got any takes on it, Charlotte?
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: I just literally agree with you, like it's just a really not a good idea, like we touched upon already, like you need to have a balanced diet with all those macros included, because like our body needs every single thing, right?
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, just it's not great, and you just end up looking pretty rotten.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: And feeling rotten.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_00: Coke brought out their their their coke coke.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: They called it fat-free coke.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: Coke's never had fat in it, but they just used it as marketing, so people started drinking that.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: Mental, right?
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, massive misinformation, people misled, um, unfortunately.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: But we know better now, guys.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: We do.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: So this next one I hadn't actually heard of before.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know if it was more of an American thing.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: So this is number six, this is jazz size.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: So this is like dance, cardio, and music, fun fitness classes, um, social atmosphere, non-intimidating, fet more felt more like a hobby than training.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, looking here, there's quite a lot of colourful people dressed up, dancing to music of all shapes and sizes, uh, and they've all got a smile on their face, which is great to see.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, what it again it lacked, it's the strength progression and individualism.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so everyone has to do the same thing.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it it is again, it's the similar, similar problem with aerobics, I suppose.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh great cardio workout, working out as a group, community, you're gonna consistently turn up, but you're not really gonna gain any muscle.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: You know, there there's not the strength benefits or the risk of kind of you know osteoporosis, strengthening up your bones, especially coming later in age.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_01: A tiny bit of impact, right?
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: Impact from both aerobics and the jazz size would help a tiny bit, a touch, but yeah.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: I would say aerobics definitely trumps jazz size.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's kind of a bit like Zumba, I guess, jazz size.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Think about it like that.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: Zumba.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's probably Zumba's probably a a th like a modern day tangent, big fish, little fish, cardboard box.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: That was our the the words I was trying to spit out just then came out your mouth.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, I mean I don't have much more to say on Jazzer Size.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's great cardio workout, community, people keep coming back because their mates are going, they're gonna stay consistent.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'd say again, eight out of ten because it's fun and all the other factors I just mentioned, but the lack of strength training means I can't put it any higher than that.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: Pairing jazz size with a with a little bit of resistance training, and yeah, as I said, you know, uh movement is better than nothing, right?
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: And if it's something that you're enjoying, that's great.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but just try and pair it with a little bit of resistance training if you can.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, drop us a comment below this podcast, guys, if you want Charlotte to start up a new Jazzer Size Size class, yeah.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: Rob will start the Jazzer Size class.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: We'll get loads of people turn up.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: We'll get loads of people turn up for it.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: Right, um, on 7th, this is actually one of the cra uh the trends that's stuck long term.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: It obviously could work quite well.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um Slim Fast Shakespeare.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: So it's actually um it replaces meals with shakes to reduce calories.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: So they kind of get onto the calorie train by now.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: This came out in the later 80s.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: People are starting to know what calories are a little bit better.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um why it worked.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: To calorie control, remuse removed decision fatigue.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: So rather than I don't know what to have the lunch, I don't know, I'll just take the quick easy option.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: That easy option was a shake.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um so it the downside was it didn't teach real eating habits, hunger issues for many people.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's still used today, it's still popularized, but it's been turned into different things like Huel, protein shakes, etc.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um now I don't know if Slimfar shakes had protein in them back then.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: What are they?
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: 99% fat-free, healthy shake, chocolate flavour.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: Milk artificially flavoured on the marketing.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: Really interesting.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um on the front of the the can back then it just says artificially flavoured.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um you know that's the complete opposite of what we see nowadays.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_01: If it's not organic, I don't want it.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Ultra slim fast shake because you get skinny even faster drinking this one.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: It had 24 vitamins, minerals, and 15 grams of protein per 300 milligrams.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: Well, at least there's some protein in there, and they've got some vitamins and minerals, but other than that, it's kind of just manufactured sludge.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um pair that with some amphetamins and some laxatives, you're good to go, mate.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, give it a week and see the weight come off.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Slim fast.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we we should start selling that here and see how easy the weight comes off, eh?
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh again, restrictive approach, uh, like not learning about nutrition and what you're putting into your body, you end up getting uh selling yourself into the the marketing they do.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's everything you need to lose weight.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: You hear that, guys?
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and yeah, to people who were desperate and thought, I really want to lose weight.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: I've got a holiday coming up, or I'm ashamed of the way I will look.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: You see these ads, you hear about people losing weight doing Slim Fast, you're not really aware of the health risks of being in that low of a caloric intake.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: You lose some weight quickly, then you put it all back on, and then you become a yo-yo data.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh anything you want to add on Slim Fast, Charlotte?
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's crash dieting final boss.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: There's no diversity in there for your gut.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: So again, you're gonna probably feel pretty awful because a lot of these serotonin's made in your gut as well, and if your gut's not happy, you're not gonna be happy.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: And if you're not happy, you might end up binge eating anyway because you might be an emotional eater.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: Or it could turn the other way and you could restrict.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: And that leads to binging! Binging or EDs, and we don't want that in this world.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: So, yes.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: You don't want eating disorders, guys.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: So you don't want eating disorders.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: That was number seven, Slim Fast.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give it a uh uh at least there's some vitamins and minerals in it.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: If people understand what it is that was in the shake and they still need to eat food around it rather than having two or three shakes a day for all their meals, that's a lot worse.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: But if they're just using it as a bit of a supplement or something on the go, I'm gonna give it a four out of ten.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: I would say if you're not just relying on that as a soul meal and you might be doing what you're supposed to do with that kind of thing, and to use it as a supplement to supplement an already balanced diet, could be a four out of ten.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: But if you're just using that as your meal replacement for every single meal, yeah, one mate.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I think that's the problem.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people were ill-informed of what it actually should be.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I'm seeing here in the marketing it's kind of telling people to have a shake for breakfast, shake for lunch, and then a very light meal in the evening which involves some form of lean protein and some vegetables.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so just a heavily calorie restriction.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, it's just marketing back then got people, and and unfortunately led to them going down the routes.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: Rolling into that trap, baby.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: So, number eight, sweat suits and sauna belts.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the the premise of this was people wear plastic suits or heated belts to sweat more, so they burn fat faster.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the reality is uh sweat equals water loss and no increases in fat loss, as we know.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh risks is severe diet dehydration and overheating.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh modern takes is it still exists today.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: There's still waste trainers around and people still try and sweat as much as they can within workouts.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'll ask you this question if you think sweating more makes you lose weight.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um do you think when you run a marathon in the South Pole, just because you don't sweat, you're not burning any energy?
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: You ever thought about that?
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um so what are your thoughts on these sweatsuits and sauna belts?
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: If you're trying to make weight for a boxing match, sure.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: Wear your sweatsuit.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: Other than that.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: If you're trying to do it to lose body fat, mate, have a day off.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: You can be severely cheap.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you drop some weight for your cargo one.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, why why don't we do sweatsuits and slim fast for a week, see what happens.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: We should do that some great content.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Well, don't let Xavier go on.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: We'll get Charles on the grapefruit diet.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, he'd quite like that.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: It'd probably have an adverse effect on him.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: He'd probably get a fat.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: Because he eats all these snackies and he doesn't gain any weight and then who was the Phil Heath's biggest competitor, the guy with the long hair?
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: Kai Green.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: Kai Green, yeah.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know about his grapefruit experience?
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh yeah.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: He probably quite liked grapefruit.
• 27:28
  unknown: Oh god.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, moving on swiftly.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: You guys don't want to know about that.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, give me a quick ranking of your sweatsuit and sauna belt.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's like a one out of ten.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: One, yeah.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, crap.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: Dehydration, you're probably gonna feel uh terrible again.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think I could give it a negative score.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's so bad I don't even want to talk about it.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: It hurts my soul.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um You stupid.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: So so nine.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: So aerobics came out in the early 80s, and then it kind of started to plateau, and people were like, what?
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: And then do you know what they introduced?
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: A step, and it was step aerobics.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, hell yeah.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_00: Structured cardio using a step platform that added more impact.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: Big up the rebox step.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think they probably marketed the benefits of having impact for like osteoporosis back then, but if they had, they would have been on to even more money.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but again, why it worked, it was scalable intensity.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: Some people could have lower boxes and higher steps, um, structured sessions.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: People could start to train upper body a little bit more, doing dips and push-ups on it.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: It was easy to follow, they could do it from home, they could do it in groups, they could go to communities.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, limitations, it's a little bit repetitive, and there's no real strength focus, but slightly better than just aerobics on itself.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 100%.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts?
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: I would probably rate it uh seven or an eight, and like also the benefits of like kind of bouncing up and down and high impact stuff for lymphatic drainage as well.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's always good.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: Always good, helps drain your lymph nodes.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_00: We can get bouncy castle at Barn Gym, how about that?
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I remember the tramp those little mini trampolines as well as.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: You've got a bouncy castle, Ben.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, Ben's got bouncy castle.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: You actually got a bounce castle.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: Then his brother have got a bouncy castle, yeah.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: They chipped in together, they've got bouncy castle.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: No fucking way.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's pretty selfish, so you haven't bought it here, to be fair.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: How have you never told me that before, Ben?
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've I know.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: Because I'm close.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm close with Venom and Show, we see.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: Jeez, that that's really actually quite cool.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: How much does a bouncy castle cost?
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: A kiddie castle.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: 300.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's not bad.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so is it a little one?
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: Square.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Four turrets, four turrets?
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: You can go into a little castle bit, and you can find a little wall.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_00: Remember the ones with the assault course?
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they're lit.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: They were the best to get one here.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's amazing exercise.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: Climbing, jumping.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: We're getting a little bit sidetracked here, guys.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: On gym day, we should get a long way to hire one of those assault courses.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: Injury central though, isn't it?
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know, people just take it too far.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I remember when we got um people jumping over hay bales in the field, and I remember Patrick Smith just like launched himself over a hay bell, gave it too much, just went over the other side and like hit the ground and rolled a bit.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: Oh Patrick, man.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Patrick, are you okay?
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, Yeah, I'm fine.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Thank God.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: Broken wrist.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: Where there's a blame, there's a claim.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: Not insured in that field.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, we'll stay quiet about that.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: Cut that the fucking place.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: Number ten, the Beverly Hills diet.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: Heels.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: Heels, heel mini! Right, Beverly Hills diet.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so this what it was it was a strict food diet with rules.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: You had to eat fruit first and then specific food in sequences.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: Why it appealed felt complex and it seemed smart.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: So people were like, okay, this this is interesting, maybe I should.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: Glucose goddess loves a bit of meal timing, and you know, she's playing into that a little bit at the minute.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so it it is still working to this day.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um getting getting the the the the food order correct.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um back then there was no real scientific basis, it was overcomplicating eating, it was very restrictive, uh, people couldn't eat out.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but celebrities were doing it, uh, it became very, very popular.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um so the modern take is is kind of like hormone hacks, tick-tock nutrition trends, yeah, uh detox trend diets, uh very similar to the Beverly Hills diet.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what are your first first initial takes?
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_01: Hard have you got like a uh example of what how you would eat on your Beverly Hills diet?
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm just I'm just diving into it.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so correct food combining.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um so pro combining a protein with a starch was poor.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: So they also classified nuts as proteins, where realistically there is much of a dark fat.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so they also classified cereals and whole grains as a protein.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is just uh again, it's minimal protein, isn't it?
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: There's a bit, right, but it's more like a fibre, right?
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um they also said oil and olives as a protein.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: Bizarre.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and then they said seafood, flesh food, and dairy food.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: Flesh food.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, alright.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: This is this is interesting.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so oh okay, starches also would fall over into with cereals.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, green vegetables were good with proteins and good with starches, but green vegetables were poor with fruit, acidic fruit, sub-acidic fruit, and sweets.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: So, really what you wanted to do was green vegetables with protein in one meal, and green vegetables with starches in another meal, and your fruit you would always start with, or something sweet like a banana, a date, or a fig.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but you wouldn't want to combine any of your fruit with your proteins and your starches, um, which is interesting.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_00: So you start with fruit and then you would eat green vegetables with a protein or green vegetables with a starch.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: You would never have proteins and starches in the same meal.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's one of those things I think when you look at it from a really simplified perspective, at the end of the day, at least you're getting in a pretty balanced amount of food into your diet.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, incredibly restrictive.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think that's great.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, probably not the healthiest mindset.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but you know, that's all ending up in your your tummy at the end of the day, and if you just pull all those food groups together, it'll probably look like a a health poster for what you should be eating, which kind of sounds alright, right?
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's kind of a diet a direction towards a whole food diet.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_01: There's no it doesn't seem like it's uh encouraging kind of processed foods.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: So, in terms of a balanced perspective with what you're actually ingesting, not bad?
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't think it is.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you just look at the the the list of ingredients within the diet, it's actually really healthy.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, all whole foods, they're pushing healthy fats, yeah.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: They're they're they're pushing whole grains, uh, vegetables, fruits, protein sources, nuts, seeds.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's just the order of eating which creates the disordered eating.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it generally I think it's probably the best diet we've had on here today.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um agreed.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: I I I I I I think if you were to take away the timing of the foods and when to eat them and just ate all those foods, I think you'd be a very healthy person.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'd try and, you know, get protein in in it each meal.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_00: But uh the food selection looks good.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um agree.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: I think I would give the Beverly Hills diet a 10 out of 10 for the type of foods.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: But with the timing and stuff, that brings it.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: I would say it's a five out of ten.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: So somewhere in the middle.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh seven out of ten, I'm gonna give the the Beverly Hills diet.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's a bit weird, uh, but you're getting in the right nutrients and eating it in a weird order.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_01: Took the words out of my mouth again, seven out of ten.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yes.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, look, guys, I I hope you've enjoyed our eighties special today and it might have taken you back to your youth, or it also might have taught you a few things of what it was like to live when you were exercising and dieting in the eighties.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, thank you very much for tuning in today, and we will see you on the next one.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: Bosh.