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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Thursday, November fourteenth. I'm
- 0:03Speaker 1: your host, tom Or. The Northwestern game is in two days,
- 0:06Speaker 1: the game against Michigan in sixteen days. Today we are
- 0:09Speaker 1: looking at back at the Perdue game with our buddy
- 0:12Speaker 1: Ross Fulton, the ex's and nosguru bucke Huddle dot com.
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- 0:32Speaker 1: have one, two, three, four, five, six plays we're breaking
- 0:36Speaker 1: down for you today. One of them I watched the
- 0:40Speaker 1: rewatch the game after I thought, oh boy, I hope
- 0:41Speaker 1: Ross does this play this week, and I forgot to
- 0:44Speaker 1: message him, and good news, it's in here. So we'll
- 0:45Speaker 1: get to that in a little bit. But Ross, We're
- 0:48Speaker 1: going to start with one. Buckey's running inside zone against
- 0:51Speaker 1: a five to one front. This is sort of an
- 0:53Speaker 1: unusual combination here and normally I will try and tell people,
- 0:57Speaker 1: you know, hey, this is the play where this happened.
- 0:58Speaker 1: If you're just listening to the podcast, this was a
- 1:01Speaker 1: short run by quin John Judkins, so extremely unmemorable in
- 1:04Speaker 1: a lot of ways. But what is there to learn
- 1:06Speaker 1: from this one?
- 1:08Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a few of these unmemorable runs, and
- 1:10Speaker 2: I think, you know, I just wanted to take a
- 1:12Speaker 2: moment to point out why that was during the game.
- 1:15Speaker 2: I know there's some disquiet about some of this, so
- 1:18Speaker 2: you know, Ryan Day talked about this going into the game.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Seth mclachland touched on it after the game. Purdue is
- 1:26Speaker 2: a base front under Ryan Walters is sort of unique.
- 1:30Speaker 2: It's this five down, one linebacker look where I Dave
- 1:35Speaker 2: referred to it as a bear, you know, whether it's
- 1:37Speaker 2: actually bear, double eagle, whatever term you want to use. Basically,
- 1:39Speaker 2: they're covering up every offensive lineman right and so Ohio
- 1:42Speaker 2: State's based run play this year under Chip Kelly has
- 1:45Speaker 2: been inside zone and the goal with that is to
- 1:48Speaker 2: create double teams and then climb to the second level
- 1:51Speaker 2: so you can get movement. And what this front does
- 1:54Speaker 2: effectively is it limits you on getting double teams and like,
- 1:58Speaker 2: you know, you can see that, you know, you can
- 1:59Speaker 2: set her see the overall concept from the wide angle
- 2:03Speaker 2: and then from behind the defense you get a little
- 2:05Speaker 2: bit even more of the flavor of it. And you know,
- 2:08Speaker 2: with each offensive lineman, you know, like Seth McLaughlan, as
- 2:10Speaker 2: the center has a single block on the nose tackle,
- 2:14Speaker 2: you know, Carson Hinsman has to single block the defensive tackle.
- 2:18Speaker 3: Donovan Jackson has to climb to the linebacker.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Producer doubled down on that by they like us on
- 2:25Speaker 2: this play, they brought a corner blitz from the boundary
- 2:28Speaker 2: frequently into this look. Honestly, you know, I would consider
- 2:32Speaker 2: this like a fairly successful one of these plays because
- 2:35Speaker 2: they got they got five yards. They brought the tight
- 2:38Speaker 2: end to the backside a few times like this to
- 2:41Speaker 2: pick up the extra defender and they're able to dig
- 2:44Speaker 2: out the corner blitzing here and Quijahn Juckkins they kind
- 2:47Speaker 2: of picked up as the game is going on, like
- 2:48Speaker 2: basically immediately cut back to the backside where the quarterback
- 2:53Speaker 2: run element would be. You know, Will Howard did have
- 2:56Speaker 2: a big run on this. So the long and the
- 2:58Speaker 2: short of it was that this defense is basically designed
- 3:02Speaker 2: to take away inside zone. You know, when obviously did
- 3:06Speaker 2: not get this run from Purdue. They have big chunk
- 3:08Speaker 2: plays on inside zone. You know that two minute drive
- 3:12Speaker 2: as being one example. Trevon Henderson had a couple. So
- 3:16Speaker 2: more about the front. I think that in this game,
- 3:19Speaker 2: you know a few examples of other run plays. But
- 3:22Speaker 2: as we talked about last week, like this is Purdue,
- 3:24Speaker 2: you're not gonna go probably guns are blazing on your
- 3:27Speaker 2: you know, run game diversity here. And I think as
- 3:29Speaker 2: Seth McLachlan sort of put after the game, like you know,
- 3:32Speaker 2: they knew they were going to have to kind of
- 3:33Speaker 2: just throw some jabs into a tough front at times
- 3:36Speaker 2: against the boiler Makers on Saturday.
- 3:39Speaker 1: And the next one's a little more exciting and plays
- 3:41Speaker 1: it's probably a little more memorable. But again something that
- 3:44Speaker 1: o'hist it has shown a bunch over the years. We've
- 3:46Speaker 1: talked about the sale concept a bunch. That's something that
- 3:48Speaker 1: Ryan Day will use in the passing game. This is
- 3:51Speaker 1: the long pass to Carnel Tape that was a little
- 3:53Speaker 1: bit underthrown and he had this kind of come back
- 3:55Speaker 1: for it.
- 3:55Speaker 3: And it got knocked away.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I sort of want to touch on,
- 3:59Speaker 2: you know, another I think sort of grouse you hear
- 4:04Speaker 2: is about Will Howards and his you know, deep ball
- 4:08Speaker 2: prowess or lack thereof. You know, statistically, he's actually in
- 4:11Speaker 2: a pretty good spot, whether you're looking at like compared
- 4:14Speaker 2: to other college quarterbacks, whether you know, twenty yards in
- 4:17Speaker 2: the air, thirty yards in the air. But there have
- 4:19Speaker 2: been a few that have been underthrown, and several of
- 4:23Speaker 2: them I actually think are less to just do with
- 4:27Speaker 2: his technique or arm strength, although we can get into
- 4:30Speaker 2: that a little bit here in just the concept where
- 4:33Speaker 2: the guy who's opened downfield isn't really the read and
- 4:37Speaker 2: so by the time he gets to him, the guy
- 4:39Speaker 2: has broken free, but it's sort of he's late to
- 4:43Speaker 2: it because that's not what's going on here. So right,
- 4:45Speaker 2: so we talked about this. This is the exact same
- 4:48Speaker 2: play they used against Penn State where Jeremiah Smith was
- 4:52Speaker 2: open and Howard third iceed deep ball to him, but
- 4:54Speaker 2: Smith pulled up off his route. And the reason is
- 4:58Speaker 2: because the concept really is to run off like this
- 5:01Speaker 2: is a cover three look from Purdue, right, So like
- 5:03Speaker 2: you have a deep corner, deep safety, the deep route
- 5:06Speaker 2: is supposed to run off the corner, and so you
- 5:09Speaker 2: open up this like deep out cut right, like the
- 5:11Speaker 2: quote unquote Sale Route. You know, it's just like a
- 5:13Speaker 2: twenty yard deep out underneath of it. Cardinal Tate was
- 5:17Speaker 2: opened against on it against Penn State, and you know,
- 5:20Speaker 2: Ryan Day actually discussed that play last week and said,
- 5:24Speaker 2: you know, I partially Jeremi Smith was sort of thought
- 5:27Speaker 2: he was capped by the safety and the ball was
- 5:28Speaker 2: going to Cardinal Tate, which is why I saw down
- 5:30Speaker 2: here you have a situation where a mecha BUCA on
- 5:35Speaker 2: the Sale route would have been opened but for the
- 5:36Speaker 2: fact the Purdue cornerback slips and backtracking, and you could
- 5:40Speaker 2: see that from this wide angle, and so he then
- 5:43Speaker 2: ended up sort of on a BUCA and.
- 5:46Speaker 3: Leaving Cardinal Tate open.
- 5:47Speaker 2: And so you know, that ball to Tate and ideally
- 5:51Speaker 2: would have been out when he's at the forty yard line.
- 5:53Speaker 2: It just doesn't happen because he's that's not the first read, right.
- 5:58Speaker 2: You know, I do think on these throws like I
- 6:00Speaker 2: would like to see Will Howard step into them a
- 6:02Speaker 2: little bit more.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Guess I'd say that if you had to choose better
- 6:07Speaker 2: to underthrow than overthrow on these, I just don't think
- 6:11Speaker 2: big picture, I don't.
- 6:12Speaker 3: I don't see this as like a big issue. I mean,
- 6:14Speaker 3: I think that.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Even if you want to concede that throwing a pretty
- 6:20Speaker 2: just forty yard go ball is not Will Howard's strength.
- 6:24Speaker 2: To me, that's sort of like having a running back
- 6:26Speaker 2: that can break an eighty yard run, like it's a
- 6:28Speaker 2: nice thing to have, but it's not. Sort of there's
- 6:31Speaker 2: a lot more things that are more important before you
- 6:34Speaker 2: get to that sort of cherry on top. So I
- 6:37Speaker 2: don't I don't think that's holding back the Ohio State
- 6:39Speaker 2: offense by any means. But I do think, particularly as
- 6:43Speaker 2: we'll talk, we'll show one of them here. He had
- 6:44Speaker 2: several other throws in this game on vertical shots that
- 6:47Speaker 2: were very well, you know, nicely placed, you know, the
- 6:50Speaker 2: second play of the game to Jeremiah Smith being one example.
- 6:53Speaker 2: So you know, I think when the timing's on, I
- 6:56Speaker 2: think it's it works well. It's just some of these
- 6:58Speaker 2: that are I think stuck in people's minds as underthrows
- 7:02Speaker 2: are sometimes because it's not it's not the first read
- 7:05Speaker 2: and by the time he gets to it, it's just
- 7:06Speaker 2: like a hair too late.
- 7:08Speaker 1: And earlier in the week, Tony Garderman and I did
- 7:11Speaker 1: a rewatch of the Michigan game for the Buckeye Weekly podcast,
- 7:14Speaker 1: and then did a rewatch of the Ohio State Purdue game.
- 7:16Speaker 1: I actually watched those games back to back. So if
- 7:19Speaker 1: you'd like to hear about an offense that has problems,
- 7:21Speaker 1: I can tell you about the Michigan offense. But boy,
- 7:23Speaker 1: the High State offense looked great when I was watching
- 7:26Speaker 1: them right after that Michigan Indiana again. All right, so
- 7:29Speaker 1: let's get the next one. This is not the play
- 7:31Speaker 1: you just talked about to Jeremiah Smith. It is a
- 7:33Speaker 1: different one. This is actually the one where Jeremiah Smith
- 7:35Speaker 1: looked like he maybe got the first down and then
- 7:37Speaker 1: on replay they.
- 7:37Speaker 3: Said he was just short.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Just so you can code a picture it in your
- 7:40Speaker 1: mind if you're listening on a podcast.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is just sort of my coda to
- 7:44Speaker 2: my point before, Like, this is a great throw by
- 7:48Speaker 2: Will Howard on time. He moves well in the pocket.
- 7:51Speaker 2: You know, this is a twenty yard curl route. All right,
- 7:54Speaker 2: That's not an easy throw to make, either across to
- 7:56Speaker 2: the hash or to the numbers. So and he throws
- 7:59Speaker 2: out on time, in the right spot like third and seventeen.
- 8:02Speaker 2: It is difficult, you know. The other thing I wanted
- 8:04Speaker 2: to use this as an example of ish the Ohio
- 8:08Speaker 2: State did use a lot of different protection schemes, and
- 8:11Speaker 2: so like one thing we talked about with Pen against
- 8:13Speaker 2: Penn State is you know, leaving Donovan Jackson on an
- 8:16Speaker 2: island and choosing to work the running back to the
- 8:19Speaker 2: opposite side. They did a lot of things in this
- 8:22Speaker 2: game that sort of helped him in particular, Like right
- 8:25Speaker 2: here you have g Scott and sort of this wide
- 8:28Speaker 2: kind of like nasty split it sometimes called, like he's
- 8:30Speaker 2: sort of like three or four yards off the white
- 8:32Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, and he looks like, you know, he's
- 8:35Speaker 2: he's in a pass you know, position to run off
- 8:38Speaker 2: a route. And said he comes in and chips, you know,
- 8:40Speaker 2: on the defensive end before he releases, uh, buying Donovan
- 8:44Speaker 2: Jackson a second. So this is a six man protection.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Saw quite a few different types of seven man protections.
- 8:50Speaker 2: You know, there's certainly times where they let left Donovan
- 8:53Speaker 2: Jackson alone. I think they're just what you what, I
- 8:56Speaker 2: what my takeaway was is they're really trying to change job.
- 9:00Speaker 2: The protection scheme so that opponents cannot guess what we
- 9:05Speaker 2: you know, whether it's gonna be a five man, six man,
- 9:07Speaker 2: seven man, and where guys are coming from to try
- 9:09Speaker 2: to really isolate that left side. And you know, yeah,
- 9:13Speaker 2: again I thought Donovan Jackson did a nice job in
- 9:15Speaker 2: pass protection this game, but again only a second game
- 9:18Speaker 2: playing left tackle is after playing his entire career as
- 9:22Speaker 2: a guard. So I think he'll just continue to see
- 9:24Speaker 2: like a lot of variation in the pass protection like
- 9:27Speaker 2: anything else. But again, like Howard, you know, does a
- 9:30Speaker 2: lot here, you know, going back to him, like whether
- 9:33Speaker 2: it's this, you know, they run those naked bootlegs where
- 9:36Speaker 2: he like they have no one blocking the backside on purpose,
- 9:39Speaker 2: and he does a great job like buying depth. He
- 9:41Speaker 2: had the one like throw across another completion of Jeremia
- 9:44Speaker 2: Smith across them and all that, or obviously what he
- 9:47Speaker 2: adds in the run game getting the ball out on
- 9:49Speaker 2: time and keeping ahead of schedule. So again I think,
- 9:52Speaker 2: if anything, I guess my takeaway is I just feel
- 9:56Speaker 2: like there's like a little bit of under selling Will
- 9:59Speaker 2: Howard at the point, both both among Ohio State fans
- 10:02Speaker 2: and nationally. You know, he is really sort of the
- 10:06Speaker 2: engine that's making the Ohio State offense go. And I
- 10:09Speaker 2: just think that people don't quite appreciate what he's what
- 10:13Speaker 2: he's bringing every Saturday for the High State.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Yeah, We've talked about that a bunch on the Show
- 10:19Speaker 1: and other places. They don't need him to be a
- 10:22Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner. If you're looking for a Heisman Trophy winner,
- 10:24Speaker 1: they're not going to put up Dwayne Haskins stats this year.
- 10:27Speaker 1: They just need a guy to kind of keep them
- 10:29Speaker 1: on schedule and keep things moving. And he has been
- 10:31Speaker 1: very efficient at that.
- 10:33Speaker 2: Yeah, and even that, like I mean, Ryan Day says it,
- 10:37Speaker 2: but like the I mean, Dwayne Haskins was running twenty
- 10:40Speaker 2: more plays a game than Ohio State currently is. Like
- 10:43Speaker 2: between the change, the change in the rule has caused
- 10:46Speaker 2: like a sea change in how college football operates generally,
- 10:49Speaker 2: Like Ohio State huddled on Saturday most of the game,
- 10:53Speaker 2: but everyone that Ohio State plays against huddles and runs
- 10:56Speaker 2: every play within five seconds of the play clock expiring,
- 11:00Speaker 2: just trying to run short in the game and run
- 11:02Speaker 2: it down. And so you know, I know it's it's
- 11:04Speaker 2: sort of it's tricked to say on the one end,
- 11:07Speaker 2: but it is true that you know, twyn Haskins is
- 11:09Speaker 2: probably running that team in twenty eighteen was running eighty
- 11:12Speaker 2: two plays a game on average, and this team's running
- 11:14Speaker 2: sixty three or whatever. So that's you know, makes a
- 11:16Speaker 2: big difference when you're trying to compare seasons and statistics.
- 11:19Speaker 2: And again, I just you know, when you look out
- 11:22Speaker 2: at the landscape of college football, I don't you know,
- 11:25Speaker 2: it's kind of strange that right now Ohio State is,
- 11:28Speaker 2: you know, at least number one in FBI and SP
- 11:32Speaker 2: plus the odds on you know, have really good national
- 11:36Speaker 2: title odds and sort of have no one in the
- 11:38Speaker 2: National Heisman or other award.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Conversations on the offense.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, would you rather win the Heisman
- 11:44Speaker 1: or the national championship? That's you know, this is this
- 11:47Speaker 1: is a season that Ohio State fans if they were
- 11:49Speaker 1: in the Dwayne Haskins year when they had a Heisman
- 11:51Speaker 1: finalist and we're not winning the national championship, we're saying,
- 11:54Speaker 1: but we want to win the national championship. So, you know,
- 11:57Speaker 1: so far, so good. We'll see how the last to
- 12:00Speaker 1: last three games of the regular season have go and
- 12:03Speaker 1: the rest of that after that, but we still have
- 12:05Speaker 1: three more plays to go. So let's run through these.
- 12:07Speaker 1: These you're all kind of related. The first one is
- 12:10Speaker 1: the Brandon Innis reception that then he kind of like
- 12:12Speaker 1: fumbled out of bounds at the end of the play.
- 12:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:18Speaker 2: One thing that they were doing a lot of on
- 12:20Speaker 2: Saturday was flipping the roles of people in the offense
- 12:26Speaker 2: and moving people interchangeably.
- 12:29Speaker 3: You know.
- 12:29Speaker 2: I again, Purdue plays, like we talked about the Penny front,
- 12:33Speaker 2: they also play a lot of cover one as a
- 12:35Speaker 2: result of that, a lot of man coverage, and so
- 12:38Speaker 2: I'm sure some of it is, like you know, if
- 12:40Speaker 2: you ask Chim Kelly, we gained plan for every opponent specifically,
- 12:45Speaker 2: like Perdue tries to match personnel with personnel. So if
- 12:48Speaker 2: we put a wide receiver in the backfield and running
- 12:50Speaker 2: back out wide, as we'll discuss here, like you're gonna
- 12:53Speaker 2: get positive matchups. But I think more broadly, right, there's
- 12:59Speaker 2: two there's two rules or two schools of thought. You
- 13:02Speaker 2: try to save plays for the big game, right, or
- 13:07Speaker 2: you want to put stuff on film that other opponents
- 13:10Speaker 2: have to prepare for. And I certainly think there were
- 13:13Speaker 2: some of that going on Saturday, in terms of putting
- 13:15Speaker 2: people in different positions right where like people are going
- 13:18Speaker 2: to have to account for that, so and they again
- 13:21Speaker 2: making plays look like right. So like this Brandon and
- 13:24Speaker 2: his wheel. Early in the game, they ran this exact
- 13:27Speaker 2: same play not successfully, but this it was a lead
- 13:30Speaker 2: outside zone to Quinchawn Judkins where he came in motion
- 13:33Speaker 2: like this, and Brendan Andis was blocking out on the
- 13:39Speaker 2: cornerback right, So they give them the same exact motion
- 13:43Speaker 2: you fake and this even slows down faking like he's
- 13:46Speaker 2: going to block the corner and then runs that wheel
- 13:48Speaker 2: route for an easy completion. So I think beyond just
- 13:53Speaker 2: like the personal mismatches you're looking for here, you're getting
- 13:57Speaker 2: Chip Kelly has done a great job all season, Matt,
- 14:01Speaker 2: like marrying plays together right, Like every run has a
- 14:03Speaker 2: couple of pass plays off of it. Formations and looks
- 14:07Speaker 2: work together, you know, whether it's this, whether it's the
- 14:11Speaker 2: throwback touchdown at g Scott where they're you know, in
- 14:14Speaker 2: pistol right, which is like a run heavy look, and
- 14:16Speaker 2: then they fake the fly sweep to a Mecca Buca
- 14:19Speaker 2: coming the other way. Then they fake the mid zone
- 14:21Speaker 2: to Treya Henderson and then eventually like Scott leaks out,
- 14:24Speaker 2: you're just getting a lot better marrying of concepts this
- 14:28Speaker 2: year for Ohio State. So this combination of putting people
- 14:31Speaker 2: in different spots and then you know, making run and
- 14:34Speaker 2: pass plays work together in the same game.
- 14:38Speaker 1: All right, The next one, this is the one that
- 14:40Speaker 1: when I was rewatching the game, I thought, oh man,
- 14:42Speaker 1: I hope Ross talks about this one. And good news,
- 14:44Speaker 1: Ross is talking about this one. This is the long
- 14:47Speaker 1: run of the day for Travon Henderson, like the really
- 14:51Speaker 1: just cool looking counterplay. Josh Fryer absolutely blows someone up
- 14:54Speaker 1: on the front side of this play. I was really
- 14:57Speaker 1: hoping this is part of the show, and great news,
- 14:59Speaker 1: it is part of the s show.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Good I've been waiting here this entire time, breathlessly wondering
- 15:04Speaker 2: which play it was that you wanted to talk about.
- 15:06Speaker 2: So but I got it, all right? So again, right,
- 15:08Speaker 2: so we started making plays look alike. They use this
- 15:11Speaker 2: exact same orbit motion like and by that I just
- 15:14Speaker 2: mean like quinch On Junkins. Right, So the first thing,
- 15:16Speaker 2: I should go back multiple plays on Saturday for the
- 15:19Speaker 2: first time, I believe with Juckkins and Henderson on.
- 15:22Speaker 3: The field together.
- 15:24Speaker 2: So that's obviously a package people have talked about people
- 15:26Speaker 2: have discussed, you know, like anything else comes with positives
- 15:30Speaker 2: and mind it says you have.
- 15:30Speaker 3: Two running backs, it's one less vertical threat.
- 15:33Speaker 2: Although well maybe that's mitigated some by what Travon Henderson did.
- 15:37Speaker 2: But you obviously can do a lot of things in
- 15:39Speaker 2: the run game, both in terms of having a lead
- 15:41Speaker 2: blocker or faking. So they ran this earlier where Judkins
- 15:46Speaker 2: came in the same sort of motion behind Howard and
- 15:49Speaker 2: with Trey Henderson as a lead blocker for so now
- 15:53Speaker 2: fake that. They fake that and run back countertrait, you know,
- 15:58Speaker 2: with the guard and the tight end pulling gh counter
- 16:02Speaker 2: back the other way. And so you know, the first
- 16:04Speaker 2: thing you'll notice, like defensively again, like this fits what
- 16:07Speaker 2: Purdue wants to do because they have to all the
- 16:10Speaker 2: single high, they have to rock and roll the coverage
- 16:13Speaker 2: back with the five man front. They like to box everything,
- 16:18Speaker 2: which is just a fancy term for like they're trying
- 16:19Speaker 2: to force the football.
- 16:20Speaker 3: Back inside with that defensive end. You can see him
- 16:22Speaker 3: taking on the guard block.
- 16:24Speaker 2: That's not a very good way to play counter because
- 16:27Speaker 2: it creates this massive lane as you can see. For
- 16:29Speaker 2: as you said, Josh Fryer to pull through and lead
- 16:31Speaker 2: on a defensive back, but then you just get the
- 16:33Speaker 2: cool backfield motion right like you do the inside handoff.
- 16:37Speaker 2: It's sort of like an an old school wing tee
- 16:40Speaker 2: the quarterback like spin series. You know, turning your back
- 16:42Speaker 2: to the defense and then turning back around is really
- 16:45Speaker 2: effective for faking. So again, this just shows like the
- 16:48Speaker 2: breadth of what they can do, you know, how much
- 16:52Speaker 2: they use the two of them together. I think going
- 16:55Speaker 2: forward remains to be seen, but it's certainly something the
- 16:57Speaker 2: teams are gonna have to prepare for, and their show
- 17:00Speaker 2: that it's there's different things they can do off of it, right.
- 17:03Speaker 2: And again like also like Trevon Henderson ran about as
- 17:07Speaker 2: well as I've ever seen him run on Saturday, both
- 17:10Speaker 2: in terms of vision, which is also like breaking tackles,
- 17:12Speaker 2: running hard. Like here he runs through a couple of tackles.
- 17:15Speaker 2: I think he did that several times, and you know
- 17:17Speaker 2: he looks fresh. So the benefit of both having you know,
- 17:21Speaker 2: two running backs like this that they've been able to
- 17:24Speaker 2: reduce their workload is you know, have some games or
- 17:28Speaker 2: one is you know, having a better success than the other.
- 17:32Speaker 2: But I think that they sort of they are building
- 17:35Speaker 2: on each other because like while they can run, they
- 17:38Speaker 2: can run all the same plays with both of them,
- 17:40Speaker 2: but I do think that they've honed in more on
- 17:42Speaker 2: certain skill sets for each of them. Right, So like
- 17:46Speaker 2: they kind of like to use Junkins as sort of
- 17:48Speaker 2: like the as again like the jab right, like the
- 17:50Speaker 2: more the inside runner, you know, as probably the junkins
- 17:54Speaker 2: detriment on Saturday because you're playing against this five down front,
- 17:58Speaker 2: whereas Henderson's more to like the third down guy, more
- 18:01Speaker 2: of the guy in space, kind of like the change
- 18:02Speaker 2: up back that you bring in. And so I think
- 18:06Speaker 2: that's works pretty effectively for them the last two weeks.
- 18:09Speaker 1: Yeah, and Henderson averaged fourteen point two yards per carry.
- 18:13Speaker 1: He only had six carries, but was pretty darn efficient
- 18:16Speaker 1: on those and pretty darned explosive on those. He was
- 18:18Speaker 1: even better in the passing game. Three targets, three receptions,
- 18:23Speaker 1: fourteen point three yards per pass to Trevian Henderson. So
- 18:28Speaker 1: yeah too, if only it was so simple as just
- 18:31Speaker 1: keep keep giving it to him and you'll get fourteen
- 18:33Speaker 1: yards every time. Not quite that easy, but he did
- 18:35Speaker 1: make it look pretty easy. Here's the long pass of
- 18:38Speaker 1: the day. This was that really nice reception that he
- 18:40Speaker 1: had down the right sideline exactly.
- 18:43Speaker 2: And so again here's like the third of three plays
- 18:45Speaker 2: where you're changing up spots for players. Right, So like
- 18:47Speaker 2: ge Scart, Scott starts as the inside receiver on trips
- 18:51Speaker 2: like to the three receiver side. He then comes into
- 18:53Speaker 2: motion in the backfield and Trayvon Henderson goes out wide
- 18:58Speaker 2: again like Purdue, a lot of man coverage, you know,
- 19:01Speaker 2: some cover three, so they're they're matching personnel.
- 19:03Speaker 3: Right. So we've talked about this with the States defense.
- 19:05Speaker 2: So you you sent Trey Henderson out and now the
- 19:08Speaker 2: Mike linebacker has him in solo coverage one on one
- 19:11Speaker 2: outside the guy who had g Scott comes into the box,
- 19:14Speaker 2: so you've put for Doe in a position they did
- 19:17Speaker 2: not want to be in. You now have Scott again
- 19:20Speaker 2: helping to the left side of the offensive line, you know,
- 19:24Speaker 2: so you're using a slide away from him and then
- 19:27Speaker 2: to the left tackle, and you're just getting this matchup
- 19:30Speaker 2: on Trayvon Henderson one on one on a Mike linebacker
- 19:32Speaker 2: on a vertical route. Like again, as we said, like
- 19:34Speaker 2: another great throw from Will Howard on a vertical route. Right,
- 19:38Speaker 2: this is a thirty five yard completion downfield. But also
- 19:42Speaker 2: you know, just a great wide receiver skills from Treyvon
- 19:45Speaker 2: Henderson catching this football, and so again it's just something
- 19:49Speaker 2: that opponents coming forward, you know, whether it's Indiana Michigan,
- 19:54Speaker 2: you know, Big Ten Championship game potentially are going to
- 19:57Speaker 2: have to be prepared for the use of guys. You know,
- 20:01Speaker 2: whether it's Innos in the backfield or a Buka in
- 20:03Speaker 2: the backfield, or it's Treyvon Henderson as a wide receiver.
- 20:08Speaker 2: Things that you know there are these are matchups that
- 20:10Speaker 2: they're going to have to be cognizant of, which would
- 20:12Speaker 2: you'll make people think twice in terms of how you know,
- 20:15Speaker 2: whether they're playing man coverage, how they match up with
- 20:18Speaker 2: that or maybe force them out of man coverage.
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