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- 0:03Speaker 1: The book was still intact enough to read the due date.
- 0:07Speaker 1: A library hardcover, spine cracked and pages bloated with old
- 0:12Speaker 1: water wedged in the mud beside a white oak on
- 0:15Speaker 1: the Sycamore Fork Greenway in Hartwell Township, eastern Tennessee. The
- 0:20Speaker 1: date stamped inside the front cover was fourteen months before
- 0:24Speaker 1: that trail existed. Kenneth Owens found it on a cold
- 0:27Speaker 1: Tuesday in March. He was semi retired, walked the greenway
- 0:31Speaker 1: most mornings with a neighbour's beagle mix named Pepper, and
- 0:35Speaker 1: the trail had only been cut that passed winter. He
- 0:38Speaker 1: almost stepped over the book, Pepper didn't. The dog stopped,
- 0:43Speaker 1: nosed the cover, and Kenneth reached down and picked it up.
- 0:46Speaker 1: The title was The Space between My Names. The author
- 0:51Speaker 1: listed was Jay Barrett, and on the back cover, below
- 0:54Speaker 1: a short biography of a literary agent named Jean Barrett
- 0:58Speaker 1: was a photograph of a woman who was not John
- 1:01Speaker 1: Barrett at all. Kenneth didn't know that yet. He brought
- 1:05Speaker 1: the book home, dried it out, and set it on
- 1:08Speaker 1: his kitchen table. It took him three days to mention
- 1:11Speaker 1: it to anyone. There is something about this case that
- 1:15Speaker 1: resisted easy explanation from the first document examined, not because
- 1:20Speaker 1: the facts were complicated, because the facts were so specific
- 1:24Speaker 1: and so consistent that the only way to make them
- 1:26Speaker 1: add up was to accept that someone had spent years
- 1:30Speaker 1: quietly taking apart another person's life, not violently, not suddenly,
- 1:36Speaker 1: but peace by peace. In the language of help and
- 1:39Speaker 1: care and professional interest. What makes this case matter is
- 1:43Speaker 1: not what was taken. It is how long the taking
- 1:46Speaker 1: went unnoticed, and what it cost the person it was
- 1:49Speaker 1: taken from. That woman on the cover was Lauren Thompson.
- 1:53Speaker 1: She was thirty one years old when she moved to
- 1:56Speaker 1: Hartwell Township. By the time Kenneth Owens found her library
- 2:00Speaker 1: book on a trail that hadn't yet existed when she
- 2:03Speaker 1: checked it out, she had been gone from that address
- 2:06Speaker 1: for over a year, and almost no one had thought
- 2:08Speaker 1: to ask where she went. Lauren Thompson grew up moving.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Her mother, who would later become the subject of Lauren's memoir,
- 2:16Speaker 1: was the kind of person who reorganized the furniture when
- 2:20Speaker 1: she was anxious, who made decisions by walking through a
- 2:23Speaker 1: space first and feeling whether it held her. Lauren inherited
- 2:28Speaker 1: that quality, a trust in the physical environment as a signal.
- 2:32Speaker 1: She was drawn to rooms with good light and to
- 2:35Speaker 1: people who asked follow up questions. By her late twenties,
- 2:39Speaker 1: she had settled into freelance copy of diting, which suited her.
- 2:43Speaker 1: She worked carefully and on her own schedule. She had
- 2:46Speaker 1: a college friend in Portland named Meredith Solis, and a
- 2:50Speaker 1: writing group in Knoxville, where she'd met a teacher named
- 2:54Speaker 1: Andrea Poe.
- 2:55Speaker 2: She had a.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Tabby cat named Birch, who, according to people who knew her,
- 3:00Speaker 1: she fed at six in the morning and six in
- 3:03Speaker 1: the evening without variation. She was the kind of person
- 3:07Speaker 1: who called back the same day. The memoir had been
- 3:11Speaker 1: years in the making. Lareen's mother had been diagnosed with
- 3:14Speaker 1: early onset dementia when Lauren was still in her mid twenties,
- 3:19Speaker 1: and writing about it was not something Lauren did quickly
- 3:22Speaker 1: or carelessly. The manuscript was personal in the way only
- 3:26Speaker 1: something long.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Carried can be. It was written in a.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Voice that was plainly hers, precise, restrained, occasionally funny in
- 3:34Speaker 1: the way that grief sometimes forces. She submitted it to
- 3:37Speaker 1: Meridian Literary Partners in Knoxville, roughly eight months before she
- 3:41Speaker 1: moved to Hartwell.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Township.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Meridian was registered as a limited liability company and described
- 3:47Speaker 1: itself as a boutique literary agency.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Its principal was.
- 3:51Speaker 1: A man named Jean Barrett, who went by j Barrett
- 3:54Speaker 1: in professional correspondence. He was fifty three years old and
- 3:58Speaker 1: identified himself off as a literary agent with contacts at
- 4:02Speaker 1: small and independent presses. Meridian's verifiable placement record, as later
- 4:07Speaker 1: confirmed in court filings, consisted of exactly two books with
- 4:12Speaker 1: small presses. Barrett called Lauren within forty eight hours of
- 4:16Speaker 1: receiving her submission. People who knew her described that call
- 4:20Speaker 1: as a turning point in her effect about the project.
- 4:23Speaker 2: He used the word necessary.
- 4:25Speaker 1: He said the manuscript was the kind of work that
- 4:29Speaker 1: arrived once in a long while, and that his job
- 4:31Speaker 1: was simply not to get in its way.
- 4:34Speaker 2: What followed was a.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Period that Lurn later described in fragments as feeling like
- 4:39Speaker 1: being noticed for the first time after a long effort
- 4:42Speaker 1: to be seen. Barrett responded to e mails within the hour.
- 4:46Speaker 1: He remembered details she mentioned in passing. He asked about Birch.
- 4:51Speaker 1: He expressed concern specifically and repeatedly about whether Lauren was
- 4:56Speaker 1: protecting her time, whether the freelance work was crowding out
- 4:59Speaker 1: the the memoir whether her environment in Knoxville was the
- 5:03Speaker 1: right one for finishing it. The suggestion that she moved
- 5:07Speaker 1: to Hartwell Township came from Barrett. He framed it as practical, quieter, cheaper,
- 5:12Speaker 1: a good community of readers, a library she would love.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Lauren moved eight months after signing with Meridian. She had
- 5:20Speaker 1: by that point told Barrett her approximate neighbourhood in Knoxville.
- 5:25Speaker 1: She had not given him her specific address. He already
- 5:29Speaker 1: added that would not become clear for another two years.
- 5:33Speaker 1: What her neighbour, Robert Ashby, noticed looking back was not
- 5:37Speaker 1: that Lauren seemed unhappy. It was that she seemed to
- 5:41Speaker 1: become progressively less present. She was friendly when he saw
- 5:46Speaker 1: her they shared a wall on Dellwood Avenue, but the
- 5:49Speaker 1: frequency of those conversations dropped. The invitations she'd mentioned to
- 5:53Speaker 1: writing events and group readings became less frequent, and then stopped.
- 5:59Speaker 1: He assumed she was deep in work. He assumed she
- 6:02Speaker 1: was fine. That is the assumption. This case depends on
- 6:05Speaker 1: the assumption that withdrawal is contentment, that silence is choice.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Lauren Thompson was a consistent library patron at the Hartwell
- 6:14Speaker 1: Township branch until she wasn't. The branch librarian, a woman
- 6:18Speaker 1: named Helen Marsh, would later say she noticed the gap
- 6:22Speaker 1: that Lauren had come in regularly for months and then
- 6:26Speaker 1: simply didn't. Helen didn't flag it. Then she would flag
- 6:31Speaker 1: something else much later in a way that changed everything.
- 6:35Speaker 1: But by the time Pepper the Beagle stopped on a
- 6:37Speaker 1: muddy trail and Kenneth Owens reached down for a water
- 6:41Speaker 1: logged hardcover with the wrong name on it, Lauren had
- 6:44Speaker 1: already been gone from Dellwood Avenue for more than a year.
- 6:48Speaker 1: She had left quickly. Her neighbor saw her carry out
- 6:51Speaker 1: a few boxes over two days, and then the unit
- 6:55Speaker 1: was quiet. She did not tell Ashby where she was going.
- 6:59Speaker 1: She did not tell well Meredith, who assumed deadlines. She
- 7:02Speaker 1: did not tell Andrea, who had by then drifted out
- 7:05Speaker 1: of regular contact through a process neither of them had
- 7:08Speaker 1: quite decided on. What she did take was birch. The
- 7:12Speaker 1: book left Delwood Avenue the same way Lauren did, quietly
- 7:17Speaker 1: without announcement, slipping out of the life it.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Had been built inside.
- 7:21Speaker 1: But there are things a book cannot hide. The dedication
- 7:25Speaker 1: page was still legible when Kenneth Owens found it, despite
- 7:29Speaker 1: the water damage, despite the months in the mud, near
- 7:32Speaker 1: a white oak on what would become Sycamore Fork Greenway.
- 7:35Speaker 1: The text was faded at the margins, but the center
- 7:38Speaker 1: held four words into the dedication, and the.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Page told you everything.
- 7:43Speaker 1: The cover refused to b who waited by the window.
- 7:48Speaker 1: A first person dedication, not a thank you, not a
- 7:51Speaker 1: professional acknowledgment, A specific private address to a specific creature,
- 7:57Speaker 1: written by someone who knew that creature, who.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Had watched it wait.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Birch was a tabby cat, Lauren Thompson's tabby cat, and
- 8:06Speaker 1: Jay Barrett had never mentioned owning one. Helen Marsh was
- 8:10Speaker 1: the branch librarian at Hartwell Township, and she had watched
- 8:14Speaker 1: Lauren come through the library doors regularly across the munths
- 8:18Speaker 1: Lauren lived on Delwood Avenue. She had also watched that
- 8:22Speaker 1: pattern stop. When Kenneth brought the water logged hard cover
- 8:26Speaker 1: to the desk, Helen looked at the author.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Photo on the back of the jacket and went still.
- 8:31Speaker 1: The face in that photograph was not a stranger's face.
- 8:35Speaker 1: It was the face of the woman who had been
- 8:37Speaker 1: checking out books bringing a canvas tote, asking quiet questions
- 8:41Speaker 1: about the periodicals collection, and then simply stopped coming. The
- 8:45Speaker 1: name printed beneath the photograph read Jade Barrett. The face
- 8:49Speaker 1: belonged to Lauren Thompson. Helen called Clifford Coleman that afternoon.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Clifford Coleman was fifty six, a paralegal in civil practice
- 8:58Speaker 1: and before that, a financial crimes analyst at a regional bank.
- 9:03Speaker 1: He was also Robert Ashby's nephew, Ashby being Lauren's neighbor,
- 9:08Speaker 1: the man who had shared a wall with her on
- 9:10Speaker 1: Dellwood Avenue and watched her become progressively less present. Clifford
- 9:15Speaker 1: had heard the story second hand through family. When Helen
- 9:19Speaker 1: reached him, those two streams of information converged into one
- 9:23Speaker 1: question that did not have an innocent answer. How does
- 9:27Speaker 1: a woman's face end up on a book published under
- 9:30Speaker 1: another person's name. Clifford pulled the copyright registration that afternoon.
- 9:35Speaker 1: The registration listed j. Barrett as sole author. The filing
- 9:39Speaker 1: date was consistent with the period after Lauren finalized what
- 9:43Speaker 1: she called her manuscript. There was no co author credit,
- 9:47Speaker 1: no acknowledgment of Lauren's contribution. The press was based in Asheville,
- 9:52Speaker 1: a small operation, the kind that relies on agent relationships
- 9:56Speaker 1: to source its titles. Clifford had enough for a Warren request,
- 10:01Speaker 1: but first he needed to understand the structure underneath. The
- 10:05Speaker 1: first warrant returned something investigators had not expected to find.
- 10:09Speaker 1: In one place, Barrett maintained a cloud back up account,
- 10:13Speaker 1: and inside it time stamped across three separate sessions. Were photographs,
- 10:18Speaker 1: not landscape photographs, not personal records from Barrett's own life.
- 10:23Speaker 1: They were photographs of documents, specifically a driver's license, a
- 10:28Speaker 1: social Security card, and a set of financial records, all
- 10:32Speaker 1: belonging to Lauren Thompson. The time stamps placed the second
- 10:35Speaker 1: session inside Lauren's Knoxville apartment. During a visit she had
- 10:39Speaker 1: documented in her own records as a professional meeting, Barrett
- 10:42Speaker 1: had told her there was a problem with the filing
- 10:45Speaker 1: cabinet lock in the shared workspace corner of her apartment,
- 10:48Speaker 1: the one she used for client contracts and manuscript drafts.
- 10:52Speaker 1: He had fixed it, he said, he had also the photographs, confirmed,
- 10:57Speaker 1: opened it and recorded everything inside. That is the thing
- 11:01Speaker 1: about the filing cabinet. It was never broken, no repair
- 11:05Speaker 1: was needed. The request to fix it was the access
- 11:09Speaker 1: those photographed documents then moved through the record in traceable ways.
- 11:13Speaker 1: A post office box was opened in Knoxville and Lauren's name,
- 11:17Speaker 1: using her photographed identification. Lauren never rented that box. Royalty
- 11:23Speaker 1: statements for the book were mailed there. An advance account
- 11:26Speaker 1: bearing Lauren's name and social Security number was established. Four thousand,
- 11:32Speaker 1: two hundred dollars deposited into it following publication. The control
- 11:37Speaker 1: credentials for that account and the linked email address pointed
- 11:40Speaker 1: to bear it. Lauren did not have access to the
- 11:43Speaker 1: account that bore her own name. She could not withdraw
- 11:45Speaker 1: from it, could not view the statements, could not confirm
- 11:49Speaker 1: it existed. The money sat there, unreachable in her identity.
- 11:53Speaker 1: There is a particular quality to that specific fact. It
- 11:57Speaker 1: is worth sitting with for a moment. The aco acount
- 12:00Speaker 1: existed to create the appearance of a transaction, an author
- 12:04Speaker 1: receiving payment, while the author herself remained invisible inside it.
- 12:09Speaker 2: It was not just theft of words.
- 12:11Speaker 1: It was construction of a parallel version of Lauren Thompson,
- 12:14Speaker 1: one who had written the book, received the advance and
- 12:18Speaker 1: moved on. But here is the thing about constructed versions.
- 12:21Speaker 1: They leave seams the building maintenance log at Dellwood Avenue
- 12:26Speaker 1: showed two work orders submitted under the property management company's
- 12:30Speaker 1: account after Lauren moved in. No tenant had requested either one.
- 12:34Speaker 1: The log traced both to an account connected to Phil Dunbar,
- 12:38Speaker 1: a leasing agent. Dunbar had provided Barrett with the lease
- 12:42Speaker 1: a dendum that contained Lauren's unit number and address information
- 12:46Speaker 1: Lauren had not yet given Barrett at the time he
- 12:49Speaker 1: received it. Barrett had never entered through a broken door
- 12:53Speaker 1: or a forced window. He walked in with paperwork. Everything
- 12:56Speaker 1: in the evidence record pointed toward a single obvious conclusion.
- 13:00Speaker 1: The annotated manuscript would be in Barrett's office. His Knoxville
- 13:04Speaker 1: suite at Meridian Literary Partners was the logical place a
- 13:08Speaker 1: man who had built this kind of parallel paper architecture
- 13:12Speaker 1: would keep the physical proof of his authorship claim close
- 13:15Speaker 1: in a filing cabinet of his own, in a professional
- 13:18Speaker 1: space he controlled. That is what the second warrant targeted.
- 13:22Speaker 1: First investigators went to Meridian. They went through the suite.
- 13:26Speaker 1: What they found there was Barrett's operational records, correspondence agency contracts,
- 13:32Speaker 1: a catalog showing exactly two books placed with small presses
- 13:36Speaker 1: across a career that spanned more than a decade two books.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Neither was Lauren's no annotated manuscript in the office. The
- 13:45Speaker 1: lease on the storage unit was held under Barrett's ex
- 13:48Speaker 1: wife's name. The unit was in a facility across town,
- 13:52Speaker 1: not connected to Meridian's address, not associated with Barrett's professional
- 13:56Speaker 1: identity in any documentation. Inside it, in side a totepin
- 14:01Speaker 1: on the second shelf from the floor, was a printed
- 14:03Speaker 1: copy of the manuscript, Lauren's Memoir about her mother's early
- 14:07Speaker 1: onset Dementia, written in Lauren's voice, structured in Lauren's sequence,
- 14:12Speaker 1: built from the specific private weight of Lauren's family history.
- 14:16Speaker 1: Barrett's handwriting covered the margins. His initials marked the top
- 14:20Speaker 1: corner of individual pages. The dates he had written, scattered
- 14:24Speaker 1: across months of notation, placed his engagement with the manuscript
- 14:28Speaker 1: squarely inside the period when Lauren believed he was preparing
- 14:32Speaker 1: it for submission. He had not been preparing it for submission.
- 14:35Speaker 1: He had been learning it, inhabiting it, making the manuscript
- 14:39Speaker 1: something he could claim to have produced. The storage unit
- 14:42Speaker 1: was the scene the constructed version could not hide, because
- 14:46Speaker 1: Barrett had not thrown the manuscript away, and that is
- 14:49Speaker 1: the thing that does not have an innocent explanation. A
- 14:52Speaker 1: legitimate agent who receives and transmits a manuscript does not
- 14:56Speaker 1: keep a personally annotated physical copy in a storage unit
- 15:00Speaker 1: reed under someone else's name. You keep that copy only
- 15:04Speaker 1: if the annotations are the proof of your ownership claim.
- 15:07Speaker 1: You keep it only if you intend to need it.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Three days before the trial was scheduled to begin, Barrett's
- 15:13Speaker 1: attorney made contact with the prosecution. The session was closed,
- 15:17Speaker 1: the agreement reached. There set a sentencing cap in exchange
- 15:21Speaker 1: for a full confession. The court upheld the restitution figure
- 15:24Speaker 1: of sixty one thousand dollars. A forensic accountant had calculated
- 15:28Speaker 1: it from lost professional opportunities the contracts. Lauren could not
- 15:33Speaker 1: pursue the platform, she could not build the two years
- 15:36Speaker 1: in which her work circulated under someone else's name while
- 15:39Speaker 1: she lived quietly in a place she had moved to,
- 15:42Speaker 1: partly on Barrett's recommendation. The defense objected to the figure.
- 15:47Speaker 1: The court was not persuaded. What Barrett could not explain,
- 15:50Speaker 1: what the defense never addressed directly was the dedication page
- 15:54Speaker 1: B who waited by the window, A man who steals
- 15:58Speaker 1: a manuscript and publishes it under his name, as to
- 16:01Speaker 1: publish it as it was written, or risk someone who
- 16:05Speaker 1: knew the original noticing the gap. Barrett left the dedication intact.
- 16:10Speaker 1: He had no cat named Birch, He had no creature
- 16:13Speaker 1: waiting by any window. The dedication survived in the published
- 16:17Speaker 1: book because removing it would have required him to understand
- 16:20Speaker 1: in that moment that someone might one day hold the
- 16:24Speaker 1: book and know.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Helen Marsh held.
- 16:27Speaker 1: It, and she knew four years that was the sentence
- 16:31Speaker 1: eligible for supervised release after twenty eight months. The number
- 16:35Speaker 1: sits differently depending on where you stand. For Barrett, it
- 16:39Speaker 1: meant a cap a ceiling negotiated three days before a trial.
- 16:43Speaker 1: He was not confident he could survive. For the court,
- 16:46Speaker 1: it reflected the confession and the cooperation. For Lauren, it
- 16:50Speaker 1: meant the work she had done over three years. The
- 16:53Speaker 1: story of watching her mother disappear. Sentence by sentence, had
- 16:57Speaker 1: circulated under a stranger's name for two years, while she
- 17:00Speaker 1: quietly rebuilt a life in a town she had moved
- 17:03Speaker 1: partly because that stranger suggested it. The restitution figure sixty
- 17:08Speaker 1: one thousand dollars came from a forensic accountant's calculation of
- 17:12Speaker 1: what Lauren could not pursue during those two years, lost contracts,
- 17:17Speaker 1: a platform that could not be built because the book
- 17:20Speaker 1: existed under a name that was not hers. The defense objected,
- 17:24Speaker 1: the court was not persuaded. The copyright reversion was filed
- 17:28Speaker 1: before sentencing. An attorney that Clifford Coleman, connected Lauren to
- 17:32Speaker 1: handle the paperwork. The memoir, her account of her mother's dementia,
- 17:37Speaker 1: the years of small erasures, the ordinary devastation of watching
- 17:41Speaker 1: someone forget themselves, was returned to her legally. Whether Lauren
- 17:46Speaker 1: will publish it again under her own name is not
- 17:49Speaker 1: part of the public record. She had relocated to Asheville
- 17:52Speaker 1: before the sentencing date. She did not attend the proceeding
- 17:56Speaker 1: in person. By the time the sentence was read, she
- 17:59Speaker 1: was already somewhere else. Birch was confirmed with her. The
- 18:03Speaker 1: detail that matters beyond the sentencing came fourteen months later.
- 18:07Speaker 1: A Caldwell County detective working as separate matter identified a
- 18:11Speaker 1: prior victim, a woman in her late thirties, unnamed in
- 18:15Speaker 1: any public record, who had experienced an identical pattern of
- 18:18Speaker 1: manipulation before Lauren's case, the same method, the same sequence,
- 18:24Speaker 1: an agent relationship documents accessed identity infrastructure built in the
- 18:29Speaker 1: victim's name without her knowledge. That case had never reached
- 18:32Speaker 1: the charging stage. When investigators made contact after Barrett's conviction,
- 18:37Speaker 1: the prior victim declined to continue cooperating. Her reasons are
- 18:41Speaker 1: not part of the record. The connection to Barrett's case
- 18:45Speaker 1: was established through method alone, which means the annotated manuscript
- 18:49Speaker 1: in a storage unit was not the origin of the approach.
- 18:53Speaker 2: It was a refinement.
- 18:54Speaker 1: There is a question this case does not fully answer,
- 18:58Speaker 1: and it is worth naming.
- 18:59Speaker 2: Honestly.
- 19:00Speaker 1: The prior victim exists in the record as a method
- 19:03Speaker 1: match and a decision not to continue.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Nothing more.
- 19:08Speaker 1: What she lost, how long the pattern ran in her case,
- 19:12Speaker 1: whether she ever found what Lauren found on a trail
- 19:14Speaker 1: in March, none of that is confirmed. The system reached
- 19:18Speaker 1: her too late or not at all, and she chose
- 19:22Speaker 1: to step back.
- 19:23Speaker 2: That is her right.
- 19:25Speaker 1: It is also an incomplete picture of what Barrett had
- 19:28Speaker 1: built before. Lauren never submitted a manuscript to Meridian Literary Partners.
- 19:33Speaker 1: What the record does answer is how the unraveling began,
- 19:37Speaker 1: Not with a detective, not with a warrant, with a
- 19:41Speaker 1: beagle named Pepper pulling towards something in the mud near
- 19:44Speaker 1: a white oak, and a man named Kenneth Owens who
- 19:47Speaker 1: mentioned the find at a dog groomers on Clements Street.
- 19:50Speaker 1: And a librarian named Helen Marsh who looked at a
- 19:53Speaker 1: cover photograph and recognized a face that had been a
- 19:56Speaker 1: regular presence in her branch, and then without explanation, was
- 20:00Speaker 1: not the impossible due date on that library book, stamped
- 20:05Speaker 1: fourteen months before the trail was cut. Is the thing
- 20:08Speaker 1: that holds the whole structure together. The book left the
- 20:12Speaker 1: library before the trail existed. Someone abandoned it on a
- 20:16Speaker 1: drainagiesment that would later become sycamore for Greenway. The soil
- 20:21Speaker 1: held it through the seasons, and when the trail finally
- 20:24Speaker 1: reached that spot, the book was waiting. Lauren had written
- 20:27Speaker 1: a book about what it means to watch someone lose
- 20:30Speaker 1: the thread of themselves, to see memory and selfhood separate
- 20:34Speaker 1: in slow increments that look from the outside like ordinary aging.
- 20:39Speaker 1: She wrote it about her mother. She had no way
- 20:42Speaker 1: to know while she was writing it that the process
- 20:45Speaker 1: she was documenting would be turned against her, that another
- 20:49Speaker 1: kind of erasure was being prepared, that her name, her face,
- 20:53Speaker 1: her social security number, and the most personal story she
- 20:56Speaker 1: had ever told would be used to build a version
- 20:59Speaker 1: of her she could not access or correct. Birch waited
- 21:03Speaker 1: by the window. Lauren is in Asheville. The copyright belongs
- 21:07Speaker 1: to her again. That is the end of what the
- 21:10Speaker 1: record confirms, and it is enough to see clearly what
- 21:14Speaker 1: was taken and what survived the taking. This show is
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