Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Full Show Podcast: 03 June 2026
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is the issues, the interviews and the insight. Francesca
- 0:04Speaker 1: Ruggin on Early Edition with Spark for business Technology that
- 0:08Speaker 1: keeps business moving news talks.
- 0:10Speaker 2: They'd be good morning, welcome to Early Edition. I'm Francesca
- 0:13Speaker 2: Budkin filling in for Ryan Bridge this morning. Good to
- 0:15Speaker 2: have you with us. You're most welcome to contact me
- 0:18Speaker 2: anytime this morning. You canflict me a text on ninety
- 0:20Speaker 2: two ninety two or email me at Francesca at Newstalks
- 0:23Speaker 2: THEB dot co dot MZ on the show today, will
- 0:26Speaker 2: the potential TSB Heartland merger be beneficial for rural banking customers?
- 0:31Speaker 2: We've got some good news in New Zealand's luxury tourism
- 0:34Speaker 2: industry is booming. High end travel spend is set to
- 0:37Speaker 2: double by twenty thirty three, and Far North District councilor
- 0:40Speaker 2: Divinus smolders on unelected members having full voting rights the agenda.
- 0:47Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, third of June. Russia has launched a huge
- 0:50Speaker 2: wave of strikes on Ukraine. Eighteen people have reportedly been killed,
- 0:53Speaker 2: with more than one hundred wounded. Moscow correspondent to Ibel
- 0:56Speaker 2: Bennett says it looks like Putin is trying to reclaim
- 0:59Speaker 2: the narrative.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Ukraine's long range drone strikes deep inside Russia have put
- 1:05Speaker 3: the Kremlin on the back foot and exposed its lack
- 1:08Speaker 3: of outright military success. Not only has Russia failed to
- 1:12Speaker 3: defeat its enemy abroad, it's now struggling to protect its
- 1:16Speaker 3: citizens at home, and that's not a good look for
- 1:18Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin. So this feels like an attempt to reassert
- 1:22Speaker 3: his authority and tell Russians at home, look, everything's under control.
- 1:27Speaker 2: To peace talks between the US and around Testifying before
- 1:30Speaker 2: Congress this morning, US Secretary of State Machio Rubio has
- 1:33Speaker 2: updated where the negotiations are at.
- 1:36Speaker 4: There is the prospect before us which could happen today,
- 1:38Speaker 4: It could happen tomorrow, it could happen next week. That
- 1:40Speaker 4: for the first time, certainly in my memory, they have
- 1:45Speaker 4: agreed to negotiate aspects of the nuclear program that just
- 1:49Speaker 4: a month ago or just a year ago, they were
- 1:51Speaker 4: refusing to even mention, much less in discussions about That
- 1:55Speaker 4: is not a guarantee that ultimately we'll lead to a
- 1:57Speaker 4: deal that's acceptable to the Senate or acceptable to Themerican people,
- 2:01Speaker 4: but we will be able to engage them in a
- 2:02Speaker 4: process that truly test the proposition of how far they're
- 2:05Speaker 4: willing to go.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Still with the US, Donald Trump has named controversial top
- 2:09Speaker 2: housing official Bill Poulty as Acting Director of National Intelligence.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Trump has appointed his close ally Poulty, just days after
- 2:16Speaker 2: Toulsy Gabbard announced her exit from the role. Paulty has
- 2:19Speaker 2: no experience in national security, and UK Prime Minister Keir
- 2:23Speaker 2: Starmer has reactive to the killing of eighteen year old
- 2:25Speaker 2: student Henry Noak. Newly released bodycam footage shows the moment
- 2:29Speaker 2: police dismissed Noak's cries for help after he suffered stab
- 2:33Speaker 2: wounds last December. Starmer said he's seen the video and
- 2:37Speaker 2: it's harrowing.
- 2:38Speaker 5: I have to say, as a father of a seventeen
- 2:41Speaker 5: year old boy, I felt sick watching him. It is
- 2:46Speaker 5: absolutely right that the IOPC are looking at this. There
- 2:50Speaker 5: are clearly serious questions that need to be addressed, not
- 2:54Speaker 5: least how accusations of racism informed the decision making in
- 2:59Speaker 5: this case.
- 3:01Speaker 2: More on this with Gavin Gray later in the hour
- 3:04Speaker 2: News and.
- 3:05Speaker 1: Views You Trust to start your day. It's earlier this
- 3:08Speaker 1: year with Francesca Rudkin and Spark for Business Technology that
- 3:13Speaker 1: keeps business moving confused talks at B.
- 3:16Speaker 2: It's nine past five, right, It's been on the card
- 3:18Speaker 2: since twenty twenty four. But it came as a bit
- 3:20Speaker 2: of a surprise yesterday this news about Heartland Bank and
- 3:23Speaker 2: tesB and this planned merger. There is a lot of
- 3:26Speaker 2: consultation and approval required yet, but Heartland says they aim
- 3:29Speaker 2: to complete the deal in December this year. So what
- 3:32Speaker 2: will the impact be? If it goes ahead? It would
- 3:34Speaker 2: become New Zealand's seventh largest bank with approximately fifteen billion
- 3:38Speaker 2: in assets, and position itself as a challenger to the
- 3:40Speaker 2: major Australian owned banks that dominate the market. But will
- 3:44Speaker 2: it be big enough to transform the field? Combining Heartland's
- 3:48Speaker 2: specialist lending expertise with tesb's retail banking capabilities will create
- 3:53Speaker 2: a stronger New Zealand owned competitor. Heartland says greater scale
- 3:58Speaker 2: will improve efficiency, resilience, product offerings and customer choice, particularly
- 4:02Speaker 2: in regional New Zealand. The merged bank is also expected
- 4:05Speaker 2: to achieve significant cost savings and may receive a stronger
- 4:08Speaker 2: credit rating over time. Overall, the proposed merger aligns with
- 4:12Speaker 2: the New Zealand government's efforts to create a stronger challenger
- 4:16Speaker 2: to the dominant banks. But creating a larger bank doesn't
- 4:19Speaker 2: necessarily guarantee lower fees or betterest interst rates for customers.
- 4:23Speaker 2: It could, yes, provide a stronger New Zealand ow alternative
- 4:26Speaker 2: and improve banking choice, particularly in regional and rural areas,
- 4:29Speaker 2: but it's probably not big enough to disrupt the sector.
- 4:32Speaker 2: Its ultimate success will depend on whether the merged bank
- 4:35Speaker 2: can use its increased scale to offer genuinely competitive products
- 4:38Speaker 2: and services to customers. But there's one other thing they
- 4:41Speaker 2: will have to overcome, the fact New zealand Is are
- 4:44Speaker 2: notoriously lazy when it comes to changing banks. Anyway, Marke Hooper,
- 4:49Speaker 2: the Federated Farmers Banking spokesperson, is going to be with
- 4:52Speaker 2: us next on whether this will be a good move
- 4:54Speaker 2: for farmers. It is eleven past five year with early.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Edition the first word on the News of the Day
- 5:01Speaker 1: Earl edition with friend Jeska Rudkin and Spark for business
- 5:05Speaker 1: Technology that keeps Business moving Newstalk ZB.
- 5:10Speaker 2: You know with the new STOOKSB it is a thirteen
- 5:13Speaker 2: past five. We're just getting Mark Hooper on the phone.
- 5:16Speaker 2: But in the meantime I just thought I'd mentioned I've
- 5:18Speaker 2: noticed that Trump has signed executive Auto Griunting Oversight on
- 5:22Speaker 2: AA models, which is a bit of a shift from
- 5:24Speaker 2: the hands off approach the White House is privacy taken
- 5:26Speaker 2: towards AI, but now they are suggesting that maybe it
- 5:30Speaker 2: would be worth their while just checking AI the security reasons,
- 5:33Speaker 2: of course, before a new software is launched. Right Heartland
- 5:39Speaker 2: Bank has announced it wants to merge with tesB. Heartland
- 5:42Speaker 2: will take its knowledge of the royal and farming sector
- 5:44Speaker 2: and combine it with tsb's everyday banking services. Combined, they
- 5:48Speaker 2: think they can take on the Big four. Mark Hooper
- 5:51Speaker 2: is the banking spokesperson for Federated Farmers and he joins
- 5:54Speaker 2: me this morning. Good morning, Mark, good morning. So what
- 5:57Speaker 2: do you think a merger like this for rural people
- 6:00Speaker 2: would mean?
- 6:03Speaker 6: Well, it's quite an intriguing prospect.
- 6:06Speaker 7: Actually.
- 6:08Speaker 6: You know, if you stand back and you look at
- 6:10Speaker 6: the at the big picture, you'd say that it's possibly
- 6:13Speaker 6: a little bit ambitious, given that our major banks hold
- 6:16Speaker 6: about ninety seven percent of the rule.
- 6:22Speaker 2: We've lost him again. We seem to be having a
- 6:24Speaker 2: little bit of a problem keeping Mark on the line,
- 6:25Speaker 2: but we will try and track him down, because we
- 6:27Speaker 2: are keen to hear whether this is going to be
- 6:29Speaker 2: an attractive proposition for farmers. Love to hear from you. Actually,
- 6:33Speaker 2: if you're a farmer, or you live rurally or regionally,
- 6:36Speaker 2: whether this news sounds interesting, would you change banks? As
- 6:42Speaker 2: Mark was kind of commenting on there, ninety seven percent
- 6:45Speaker 2: of farmers banking is with the big banks. Mark, You're back,
- 6:50Speaker 2: I'm back, welcome. You were just explaining how big a
- 6:54Speaker 2: role Heart Bank has already in rural farming.
- 6:59Speaker 6: Yeah. Yes, So there's a number of things here which
- 7:03Speaker 6: are quite significant. I think, you know, if you look
- 7:05Speaker 6: at those those big numbers in terms of the real
- 7:07Speaker 6: debt markets, then it seems very small and a difficult
- 7:11Speaker 6: challenge to break into that market. But remembering that rural
- 7:15Speaker 6: communities have suffered quite a bit from you know, poor
- 7:19Speaker 6: service I guess, the loss of facilities and services, and
- 7:24Speaker 6: so here's an opportunity I guess to take the strength
- 7:26Speaker 6: of these two banks and make sure that real communities
- 7:29Speaker 6: are well supported. So that's an important aspect. It's also
- 7:32Speaker 6: important to realize that there's a lot of opportunity at
- 7:37Speaker 6: kind of an entry level, say with our share farmers
- 7:42Speaker 6: stock purchases, plant and machinery, things like that that are
- 7:46Speaker 6: really important that are smaller lump sums, but are just
- 7:51Speaker 6: as vital to the you know, the the productivity I
- 7:55Speaker 6: guess of a lot of businesses, and particularly at that
- 7:59Speaker 6: entry levels. So there's huge opportunity there I think for
- 8:02Speaker 6: a good, strong New Zealand based bank to get into
- 8:06Speaker 6: the market in that way. So Mark and really make
- 8:09Speaker 6: a good contribution.
- 8:10Speaker 2: So make what specific expertise does Hartman have that would
- 8:13Speaker 2: be a benefit at scale?
- 8:17Speaker 6: Well, I think it's that it's that local community focus.
- 8:22Speaker 6: And it's also the other intriguing thing about it is.
- 8:28Speaker 2: No we've going to get I don't know what, I
- 8:29Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not sure where markets, but gosh, we're
- 8:32Speaker 2: really having problems keeping him on the line today. We'll
- 8:35Speaker 2: try again for the time. As I would say before,
- 8:40Speaker 2: really key to hear from you. If you are a
- 8:41Speaker 2: farmer you live, really is this you know, are you
- 8:45Speaker 2: likely to back a bank like this that that has
- 8:51Speaker 2: come together? I think we're very We're not good in
- 8:54Speaker 2: New Zealand, are we at changing banks? We get a
- 8:56Speaker 2: little bit lazy, Mark, welcome back again.
- 9:00Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 9:01Speaker 6: So my other role with Federated Farmers is on real
- 9:05Speaker 6: connectivity and it's just bizarre that we're having trouble with
- 9:09Speaker 6: real connectivity.
- 9:10Speaker 2: We well, look, you've just put something on the to
- 9:12Speaker 2: do list today.
- 9:13Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Look what I'm what I'm key to know is is
- 9:16Speaker 2: this a bank Farmers are likely to back?
- 9:19Speaker 6: Well, I think, As'll say, I think it's going to
- 9:21Speaker 6: have a lot of appeal. What we've got to remember
- 9:23Speaker 6: is that even three percent of the market is still
- 9:26Speaker 6: significant and so so that's important that those customers looked after.
- 9:32Speaker 6: I think there is going to be an element of
- 9:35Speaker 6: appeal in terms of that New Zealand own entity that's
- 9:40Speaker 6: sharp sort of regional focus and community service, and so
- 9:44Speaker 6: I think it's got a huge potential and it offices
- 9:48Speaker 6: offers a real alternative.
- 9:50Speaker 2: Mark, thank you very much for your time this morning.
- 9:52Speaker 2: I appreciate that that was Mark Hooper, the banking spokesperson's
- 9:55Speaker 2: re Federated Farmers love to hear your thoughts on the
- 9:57Speaker 2: merger of the text is ninety two ninety two. It
- 9:59Speaker 2: is eighteen past five.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with friend JESTERA.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Rudkin and Spark for Business Technology that Keeps Business Moving.
- 10:10Speaker 1: News talks be.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Good to have you with us. Thank you very much
- 10:14Speaker 2: for your tech. Quite a few people are texting through
- 10:16Speaker 2: saying why isn't kiwibank and amongst this merge? Interesting question? Right,
- 10:22Speaker 2: New Zealand's increasingly becoming a luxury tourism hot spot. New
- 10:26Speaker 2: Data estimates it generated more than eight million dollars in
- 10:29Speaker 2: revenue last year. By twenty thirty three, that could be
- 10:32Speaker 2: more than doubled eighteen billion dollars. And that's not a
- 10:35Speaker 2: bad chunk of change. James Dolan is the strategic director
- 10:38Speaker 2: of Hotel Council Alter and he joins me now, good morning.
- 10:41Speaker 7: James, Morning Pracchester.
- 10:43Speaker 6: How are you good?
- 10:44Speaker 1: Hey?
- 10:44Speaker 2: Why is New Zealand becoming increasingly popular as a luxury
- 10:48Speaker 2: tourism hot spot?
- 10:50Speaker 7: Well, look, I think a number of reasons, but first
- 10:52Speaker 7: and foremost it's it's a great news story and we
- 10:55Speaker 7: have a wonderful international standard tourism product, amazing landscapes, wonderful people,
- 11:00Speaker 7: are warm, wealth But we're also benefiting from a lot
- 11:05Speaker 7: of global tail winds and tourism and travel generally as
- 11:10Speaker 7: people get wealthier in parts of Asia and Africa and
- 11:14Speaker 7: India are definitely getting wealthier. As people get wealthier, and
- 11:17Speaker 7: once they get a certain basic level of security, they
- 11:21Speaker 7: want to travel and experience the rest of the world.
- 11:23Speaker 7: That's anightly human it's a wonderful thing. In New Zealand
- 11:27Speaker 7: needs a very small share of the international outbound tourism market,
- 11:32Speaker 7: so it's a great opportunity for us to grow our economy.
- 11:37Speaker 2: James, what type of traveler are we talking about here?
- 11:39Speaker 2: Are we talking about the very wealthy or is it
- 11:43Speaker 2: the average traveler just wanting a high end experience and
- 11:46Speaker 2: you know we've got you favorable exchange rates at the
- 11:50Speaker 2: moment for some overseas tourists.
- 11:52Speaker 7: Yeah. Look, that's a great question because a lot of
- 11:55Speaker 7: people get wrong. I mean, I don't know what the
- 11:58Speaker 7: exact term is, but I like that kind of average wealthy,
- 12:02Speaker 7: entry level wealthy. I mean New Zealand geographically, we're a
- 12:06Speaker 7: long way away from the rest of the world. Just
- 12:09Speaker 7: to pay for the air fares to get here, any
- 12:12Speaker 7: traveler who comes to New Zealand, and that includes the
- 12:15Speaker 7: backpackers obviously by international standards, fairly wealthy. But we're talking
- 12:22Speaker 7: about folks who are pushing the boat out even more.
- 12:25Speaker 7: And if you pay a lot to come here on
- 12:28Speaker 7: the plane, especially by business travel, you are more likely
- 12:33Speaker 7: to push the boat out at dinner time. You're more
- 12:36Speaker 7: likely to maybe stretch for a helicopter ride or a
- 12:39Speaker 7: high end restaurant. And that might be people, as you say,
- 12:44Speaker 7: who really saved very hard because New Zealand is for
- 12:48Speaker 7: many of them are once and done or trip of
- 12:50Speaker 7: lifetime destination. And that's a great audience for us to
- 12:54Speaker 7: be getting here.
- 12:55Speaker 2: So we've got the helicopters, we know we have excellent restaurants,
- 12:59Speaker 2: and we know we've got fantastic scenery. It's world class.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Our other facilities good enough for those seeking a luxury experience.
- 13:07Speaker 7: Again, a really good question, because when you start attracting
- 13:11Speaker 7: high end travelers, you are attracting discerning travelers. And the
- 13:17Speaker 7: New Zealand's a wonderful scenery kind of gets up the
- 13:20Speaker 7: interest level. But the quality of our attractions, our built form,
- 13:25Speaker 7: and our service that's what closes the deals and deal
- 13:29Speaker 7: and sticks with people. And I was just going to say,
- 13:33Speaker 7: it's not an easy thing for us to deliver luxury
- 13:38Speaker 7: service or luxury hotels in New Zealand. It's not easy
- 13:42Speaker 7: because we have relatively high labor costs. We've all got
- 13:46Speaker 7: many people have experienced lots of service while traveling overseas.
- 13:50Speaker 7: We've got fairly high labor costs, and we've got fairly
- 13:53Speaker 7: high construction costs. And our hotels are grace and do well,
- 13:57Speaker 7: but it's expensive to build them and it's expensive to
- 14:00Speaker 7: run them.
- 14:01Speaker 2: James, really appreciate your time this morning. Thank you so much.
- 14:04Speaker 2: It was James Doolan's strategic director of Hotel Council Altera.
- 14:07Speaker 2: It's twenty four past five the.
- 14:10Speaker 1: Early edition Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalks
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- 14:16Speaker 2: Were with early addition, it's twenty six past five. I
- 14:19Speaker 2: normally do not respond positively to the way President Trump
- 14:22Speaker 2: speaks about and two people, but a little part of
- 14:25Speaker 2: me understood the way the President allegedly spoke to Israeli
- 14:28Speaker 2: Prime Minister Neckya who in a phone call yesterday. On
- 14:32Speaker 2: his social media page, it was all very polite, which
- 14:34Speaker 2: is kind of unusual, with Trump saying he had had
- 14:36Speaker 2: a very productive call with Prime Minister biby Ntnyaho of Israel.
- 14:39Speaker 2: And there will be no troops going back to Beirut,
- 14:42Speaker 2: and any troops that are on their way have already
- 14:43Speaker 2: turned back. However, a US news outlet in the UK's
- 14:47Speaker 2: The Telegraph both reported sources who claimed Trump ripsreads off Biby,
- 14:51Speaker 2: you're bleep crazy. You'd be in prison if it weren't
- 14:55Speaker 2: for me, the US President allegedly said, referring to Netyaho's
- 14:58Speaker 2: corruption trial, I'm saving your Everybody hates you, Everybody hates
- 15:02Speaker 2: Israel because of this. It's like something in here on
- 15:05Speaker 2: a reality show, like Love Island. An unadulterated release of frustration.
- 15:10Speaker 2: It's been just over three months since Operation Fury was launched,
- 15:14Speaker 2: just under two months of cease fire and negotiations. Everyone
- 15:17Speaker 2: is over the price of fuel. Trump's approval ratings are tanking,
- 15:21Speaker 2: so when oil price has surged this week again after
- 15:23Speaker 2: Iran and Iran announced it would seek a complete closure
- 15:27Speaker 2: of the Strait of Hormuz in reaction to Israel's military
- 15:30Speaker 2: actions in Lebanon, Trump clearly decided to just say it
- 15:34Speaker 2: like it is. Benjamin Letnia who played a significant role
- 15:37Speaker 2: in drawing Donald Trump into the war with Iran by
- 15:39Speaker 2: convincing him that military action could quickly weaken Tehran, halt
- 15:42Speaker 2: its nuclear ambitions, and potentially destabilize the Iranian regime. But
- 15:46Speaker 2: for all that Trump is responsible for the situation that
- 15:50Speaker 2: the US find themselves in. He is responsible for US policy,
- 15:54Speaker 2: regardless of any outside influence. But as Trump tries to
- 15:58Speaker 2: face tries to fire mind a face saving exit from
- 16:01Speaker 2: this conflict. Netnia, who is keen to keep the pressure
- 16:04Speaker 2: on making it harder for Trump to end this war. Neignia,
- 16:08Speaker 2: who is concerned an early settlement could leave Iran's government
- 16:11Speaker 2: intact and capable of rebuilding its military and nuclear infrastructure.
- 16:15Speaker 2: From this perspective, a ceasefire without major strategic gains would
- 16:19Speaker 2: risk leaving Israel in a worse security position than before
- 16:22Speaker 2: the conflict began. Continued American involvement also provides Israel with military, diplomatic,
- 16:28Speaker 2: and political support that it could not easily replace on
- 16:32Speaker 2: its own. But if this expective leyden Call suggests anything,
- 16:37Speaker 2: it's that Trump's patience is wearing thin and that he
- 16:40Speaker 2: has become increasingly frustrated with actions by the Israeli Prime
- 16:44Speaker 2: Minister that are undermining US efforts to de escalate the
- 16:47Speaker 2: wider conflict and pursue negotiations with Iran. Benjamin Neignatia took notice,
- 16:54Speaker 2: with Israel calling off planned strikes in Lebanon against Hezbollah.
- 16:58Speaker 2: But he's given a man who has but given. He
- 17:01Speaker 2: is a man whose career is built around opposing to run.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Who knows how long this will last?
- 17:07Speaker 1: Said, be can to.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Hear your thoughts. You're most welcome to text ninety two
- 17:11Speaker 2: to ninety two. Right here in New Zealand, the conversation
- 17:15Speaker 2: as to whether a university degree is worth the time
- 17:17Speaker 2: and money is growing. The same conversation has taking place
- 17:20Speaker 2: in the UK, with more than one and three saying
- 17:23Speaker 2: a university education just isn't worth the amount of time
- 17:25Speaker 2: and money. It is the highest level of concern about
- 17:28Speaker 2: the value of a degree. For twenty years, standard tuition
- 17:32Speaker 2: fees have risen over ten thousand pounds a year. Gavin
- 17:36Speaker 2: Gray on this shortly you're with Early edition.
- 17:47Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio, Belly Edition with
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- 18:09Speaker 2: This is only additional newbolds V I'm predis of Rudkin
- 18:12Speaker 2: filling in for Ryan today. Thanks for being with us.
- 18:14Speaker 2: Did you know that there was a new toy story
- 18:16Speaker 2: film coming? Yes, number five June eighteenth, Quite exciting doesn't
- 18:21Speaker 2: it to have Woody in the gang back? While Taylor
- 18:23Speaker 2: Swift has just announced that she has written an original
- 18:25Speaker 2: song for the film. It is out this Saturday. It's
- 18:29Speaker 2: called I Knew It, I Knew You. And apparently she's
- 18:31Speaker 2: returned to her country roots with this new number. So
- 18:34Speaker 2: that's look, that makes the weekend just that much more
- 18:36Speaker 2: exciting for swiftiest, doesn't it right? And the next half
- 18:38Speaker 2: hour we head to the UK, where senior politicians are
- 18:41Speaker 2: getting involved in a case that saw police handcuffing a
- 18:45Speaker 2: stabbing victim while he was dying after his attacker made
- 18:48Speaker 2: a false claim that he was actually the victim of
- 18:50Speaker 2: a racial attack. So Gavin Gray will explain more shortly.
- 18:53Speaker 2: Also this our Far North District councilor Devina Smolders is
- 18:56Speaker 2: going to join us to talk about a members bill
- 18:58Speaker 2: that will stop unelected individual from voting on council committees.
- 19:02Speaker 2: And this is a move that actors characterized as closing
- 19:04Speaker 2: an anti democratic loophole. Some more on that this hour
- 19:07Speaker 2: as well. Thank you very much for your feedback and
- 19:09Speaker 2: the multi text to say Francisca could TSB and Heartland
- 19:12Speaker 2: Bank also merged with Kiwibank and to take on the
- 19:14Speaker 2: other the other banks. And look, you're not the only
- 19:17Speaker 2: one asking that question. I think a lot of people
- 19:19Speaker 2: wondered if we'd missed a trick on that. Yesterday. Another
- 19:22Speaker 2: text reads, I don't think that the TSP should merge
- 19:26Speaker 2: TSP talk about sorry, Heartland talks about leveraging tsp's better
- 19:32Speaker 2: credit rating and their customer deposit basede TSP has a
- 19:42Speaker 2: a minus rating and Heartland is a triple B plus
- 19:46Speaker 2: from memory, my fair is at one hundred and fifty
- 19:48Speaker 2: years of TSB will disappear in the next five to
- 19:50Speaker 2: ten years if they go ahead with the merger. The
- 19:52Speaker 2: text suggests that actually the better option would have been
- 19:54Speaker 2: to have merge tesB with SBS, because you're merging the
- 19:59Speaker 2: strengths of the teasp in the North Island would complement
- 20:02Speaker 2: SBS strengths in the South Island. So thank you very
- 20:04Speaker 2: much for your text. Keep the feedback coming. You can
- 20:07Speaker 2: text on ninety two ninety two. It is twenty eight plus.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Five news Talk zed b Okay.
- 20:13Speaker 2: Let's head around the country and joining us now from Dunedin.
- 20:16Speaker 2: Jamie Cunningham, Good morning, Jamie morning. What's happening along the
- 20:19Speaker 2: Otigo coast.
- 20:21Speaker 8: Well, so New Zealand's first new marine reserves in over
- 20:24Speaker 8: a decade have been rubber stamped along the Otago coastline.
- 20:28Speaker 8: The five reserves cover more than three hundred square kilometers
- 20:31Speaker 8: and will come into force on July first, protecting coastal
- 20:35Speaker 8: waters and safeguarding species like albatross, sea lions and penguins.
- 20:39Speaker 8: The Department of Conservation and Kaita, who will co manage
- 20:43Speaker 8: the reserves. Docs Gabe Davy, says hopefully this is just
- 20:47Speaker 8: the start of protecting our oceans the same way we
- 20:49Speaker 8: project land. He sees generations to come. We'll be able
- 20:53Speaker 8: to experience what a thriving mowana can look like. And
- 20:56Speaker 8: Kai Tahu spokesperson Edward Allison says they've been working on
- 21:00Speaker 8: idea for thirty odd years and traditionally we have been amienated,
- 21:04Speaker 8: so it's significant to be part of it.
- 21:07Speaker 2: And Eden's weather today Jamie fine with.
- 21:09Speaker 8: Some high cloud from this afternoon. Westerly is turning northeasterly
- 21:13Speaker 8: in a high thirteen.
- 21:14Speaker 2: Thank you so much, have a good day. Claire Sherbert
- 21:16Speaker 2: is in christ Church and the Canterbury Council. Claire is
- 21:20Speaker 2: getting ahead of dealing with the chaos that can come
- 21:23Speaker 2: with the white baiting season.
- 21:25Speaker 9: Yes, there was chaos indeed, in fact, it's gotten worse
- 21:27Speaker 9: and worse every year Francesca specifically on wymarc Edi District's
- 21:30Speaker 9: Kaiducky Beach. The council says this year they will enforce
- 21:34Speaker 9: a by law they do have in place in order
- 21:36Speaker 9: to remove the people who set up makeshift camping sites.
- 21:40Speaker 9: Last year there were some concerns raised to police. There
- 21:43Speaker 9: were fires at these sites. We had lots of news
- 21:45Speaker 9: stories about it at the time, with the white baits
- 21:47Speaker 9: effectively setting up there for the season and planning to
- 21:50Speaker 9: stay now. Yesterday, at the council meeting, Senior Ranger Biodiversity
- 21:54Speaker 9: Manager Mike Quant says issues have been escalating year on year,
- 21:58Speaker 9: so they are acting this year before for the season
- 22:00Speaker 9: kicks off in September. He says although the majority of
- 22:03Speaker 9: white betas are reasonable, there are some who cause problems
- 22:06Speaker 9: and that can't keep growing.
- 22:08Speaker 2: The Mey and Dan Gordon says it is important.
- 22:10Speaker 9: To send a clear message that poor behavior won't be tolerated,
- 22:12Speaker 9: ensuring council staff are safe and will be backed by police.
- 22:16Speaker 9: He does say if white betteries really want to camp
- 22:18Speaker 9: out and stay close by. There is a camping site
- 22:20Speaker 9: just next door where they wouldn't cause any issues. And
- 22:23Speaker 9: the weather today mostly cloudly, there may be some occasional
- 22:26Speaker 9: drizzle clearing to find a bit later in the high
- 22:29Speaker 9: will be fourteen.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Claire Adam Cooper is in Wellington and
- 22:33Speaker 2: Adam discussions around amalgamation and Wellington take a step forward today.
- 22:37Speaker 10: Yeah, we're about ten weeks away from the deadlines set
- 22:40Speaker 10: by Central government for regions to deliver a high level
- 22:42Speaker 10: plan for reorganization. Now Wellington met Andrew Little this morning
- 22:46Speaker 10: is going to present a speech with his views on
- 22:48Speaker 10: the future of local government for Wellington City. He says
- 22:51Speaker 10: he'll give us thoughts on the issue with the aim
- 22:53Speaker 10: of furthering the conversation in the capitol now. Little has
- 22:57Speaker 10: spoken a bit about it in the past. The general
- 22:58Speaker 10: sense he favors the idea year of amalgamation and knows
- 23:01Speaker 10: that a super city for Wellington is likely to happen
- 23:04Speaker 10: in the future. The current mayors of Pottider and Lower
- 23:06Speaker 10: Huts have cautiously supported the idea of amalgamation too. Upper
- 23:10Speaker 10: Hut's new mayor, though Perrie Zay, has offered a few
- 23:12Speaker 10: more reservations on it and in fact Upper Huts City
- 23:15Speaker 10: Council has just launched a residence survey as they wants
- 23:18Speaker 10: residents to be a part of the conversation before any
- 23:20Speaker 10: proposals are developed. Now, she says no decisions have been made,
- 23:24Speaker 10: no proposal exists, and no preferred structure has yet been
- 23:27Speaker 10: identified for Upper Hut.
- 23:29Speaker 2: And Wellington's weather today adam.
- 23:30Speaker 10: Cloudy periods today. Some Charles Santahi have fifteen.
- 23:33Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Never Ritti Marnho was in the
- 23:35Speaker 2: Auckland studio and you've got some really great news for us.
- 23:38Speaker 2: Never about our water bills.
- 23:40Speaker 11: Well that's right, oh, Auckland is facing another hit to
- 23:44Speaker 11: their wallets. Yes, you're quite right there, Francesca. Water bills
- 23:47Speaker 11: going up by more than seven percent. This is happening
- 23:49Speaker 11: from next month. Water Care has confirmed the hike, increasing
- 23:53Speaker 11: the average household bill of one hundred and twenty dollars
- 23:56Speaker 11: by about eight a month. The developers developers they face
- 24:00Speaker 11: an even steeper rise, charges per unit increasing by about
- 24:05Speaker 11: twenty percent. So yes, what do you call this? Double
- 24:08Speaker 11: wearing for Aucklander's council last week voting as we all
- 24:11Speaker 11: know to increase rates by seven point nine percent. Water
- 24:14Speaker 11: Kires says, Look, they understand households are feeling this pressure.
- 24:18Speaker 2: But water Kires is that if they delay.
- 24:20Speaker 11: This Higer is just going to make things even worse
- 24:22Speaker 11: and more costly in the future.
- 24:24Speaker 12: So you know, rip the band aid off.
- 24:26Speaker 1: Do it now.
- 24:26Speaker 2: If you have to reduce your water usage, what would
- 24:29Speaker 2: you do? Shower every second day?
- 24:32Speaker 11: No, I can't. I have to show because I shower
- 24:35Speaker 11: every morning at about after three amses part of my
- 24:38Speaker 11: wake up. So what I will do, though, is I
- 24:41Speaker 11: would I would reduce the time in the shower from
- 24:45Speaker 11: ten minutes to three.
- 24:47Speaker 2: You've got about that. You've been reading all the press
- 24:49Speaker 2: releases on how to sack your water.
- 24:51Speaker 13: Good girl.
- 24:51Speaker 2: Where they're in Auckland.
- 24:52Speaker 11: Possible morning fog because I can't see outside the window,
- 24:55Speaker 11: so I don't know if the fog is there yet
- 24:57Speaker 11: or not. Shower some here be clearing though, to fine, fine,
- 25:00Speaker 11: fine in the afternoon, eighteen high year in Auckland.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Neva Nicks. We're after Europe and
- 25:04Speaker 2: the UK. Gevin Gray is with us. Next. It is
- 25:07Speaker 2: sixteen to.
- 25:08Speaker 1: Six international correspondence with insign Eye Insurance Peace of mind
- 25:14Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business.
- 25:17Speaker 2: Gavin Gray joins us now from the UK. Good morning, Devin,
- 25:21Speaker 2: Hi have appranchase, love you to talk to you. Look,
- 25:23Speaker 2: can you just explain to us what is going on
- 25:26Speaker 2: with this terrible case of a teenager who was stabbed
- 25:30Speaker 2: in handcuffed while he was dying.
- 25:32Speaker 12: Yes, it's a gruesome story and it's quite complicated. But
- 25:36Speaker 12: an eighteen year old student who was walking in Southampton
- 25:40Speaker 12: on the South Coast back in December was attacked with
- 25:44Speaker 12: a knife. In fact, it was a ceremonial seekh knife
- 25:48Speaker 12: of that religion by a man who simply had no
- 25:52Speaker 12: provocation and just attacked him and stabbed him five times. Now,
- 25:55Speaker 12: when the police were called, the victim was still alive
- 25:59Speaker 12: and on the ground, and the attacker was stood by
- 26:02Speaker 12: him telling the police that he had been verbally and
- 26:06Speaker 12: physically attacked in a racist way. Now that was complete nonsense,
- 26:11Speaker 12: as CCTV showed, and indeed he was the man that
- 26:14Speaker 12: had stabbed the eighteen year old who was lying on
- 26:16Speaker 12: the ground in the back when he was trying to
- 26:18Speaker 12: run away, and also across the chest. And police arrived,
- 26:23Speaker 12: unsure of what had happened, arrested the eighteen year old
- 26:26Speaker 12: on the ground as he lay dying. They didn't realize
- 26:29Speaker 12: that his claims about he's saying I've been stabbed, I
- 26:33Speaker 12: can't breathe, they didn't take as being true. And what
- 26:36Speaker 12: it's really flagged up Francescanal is something which many are
- 26:40Speaker 12: beginning to call two tier policing here in the UK,
- 26:43Speaker 12: that for some reason police officers are being trained to
- 26:45Speaker 12: be so careful of those of non British descent that
- 26:51Speaker 12: they sort of almost swayed the decisions the other way,
- 26:54Speaker 12: and a big investigations underway. The body cam video of
- 26:58Speaker 12: from the police is truly harrowing. One of course considers
- 27:04Speaker 12: this very difficult for them to walk into. There was
- 27:06Speaker 12: no obvious sign of blood on the victim, and indeed
- 27:10Speaker 12: the attacker has been sentenced to a significant jail term.
- 27:13Speaker 12: But this has led and fed into that two tier
- 27:16Speaker 12: policing narrative. The leader of Forraw or Reform UK, Nigel Farage,
- 27:21Speaker 12: says on social media this is two tip Britain where
- 27:24Speaker 12: the rights of white people matter less than ethnic minorities.
- 27:28Speaker 12: He said we should all feel pure cold range rage
- 27:32Speaker 12: and he said we have enough here of anti white prejudice.
- 27:36Speaker 12: White lives matter just as much as black lives will.
- 27:39Speaker 12: Others have criticized him for those comments. We don't need rage,
- 27:42Speaker 12: said the leader of the opposition, which is what Nigel
- 27:45Speaker 12: Farage is pushing. But she too is angry at the
- 27:48Speaker 12: police action and an investigation is underway. The Prime Minister
- 27:51Speaker 12: says the footage is harrowing, but plenty of people believe
- 27:55Speaker 12: that he is at the helm of the ship and
- 27:57Speaker 12: he's the one that's instigated police who are more concerned
- 28:01Speaker 12: about racist intentions than they are about helping a young
- 28:05Speaker 12: teenager die on the floor.
- 28:07Speaker 2: Gavin Gray, thank you so much for your time this morning.
- 28:10Speaker 1: News talk zebby.
- 28:12Speaker 2: Right central Government stepping in and telling councils that there
- 28:14Speaker 2: will be no voting rights for unelected committee members. The
- 28:17Speaker 2: government is planning to amend the Local Government Act two
- 28:20Speaker 2: thousand and two to ensure only elected councilors can vote,
- 28:23Speaker 2: which will stop the appointment of ewee representatives as full
- 28:26Speaker 2: voting members. Devana Smolders is a Far North District councilor
- 28:30Speaker 2: who Leeds who led the charge on the issue in
- 28:33Speaker 2: her region. Divina, thank you very much for your time
- 28:35Speaker 2: this morning. Are you pleased about this?
- 28:38Speaker 7: Oh?
- 28:38Speaker 13: Good? Morning French est. Yes, I'm absolutely delighted that the
- 28:42Speaker 13: government has acted to restore democratic accountability. Are they removing
- 28:46Speaker 13: the voting rights from unelected committee members?
- 28:49Speaker 2: Divina? Why did the government the minister have to step
- 28:53Speaker 2: in and councils couldn't sort this out for themselves.
- 28:57Speaker 13: Well, I think it was around the numbers, especially when
- 28:59Speaker 13: I was sitting at the table with ten of them
- 29:01Speaker 13: around the table. So if someone has the power to
- 29:05Speaker 13: cast a vote that affected your rates, your roads, your water,
- 29:08Speaker 13: they should first have to earn the support of voters
- 29:10Speaker 13: at the ballot box. And that's a fundamental principle of democracy.
- 29:15Speaker 13: And I believe the government's made the right decision. I'd
- 29:18Speaker 13: like to get a quick acknowledgment to Simon Rocks from
- 29:21Speaker 13: the National Party and Cameron Luxem from the ex Party.
- 29:24Speaker 13: Cameron is the action hero on this piece at the
- 29:27Speaker 13: government end, and sometimes the government can move slowly and
- 29:31Speaker 13: in this case that moves to remarkably quickly.
- 29:34Speaker 2: Divina, what is the situation in the finals Because it
- 29:36Speaker 2: is common around the country, there's different situations in different councils. Right,
- 29:39Speaker 2: it is common around the country for there to be
- 29:41Speaker 2: non elected members part of the committee. But final decisions
- 29:44Speaker 2: are made by a vote of the elected members. Is
- 29:47Speaker 2: that not the case in the finals?
- 29:50Speaker 6: It is?
- 29:50Speaker 9: Now?
- 29:51Speaker 13: Decisions were being made at the committee level. However, now
- 29:55Speaker 13: they've been forced to come to full council. But I
- 29:58Speaker 13: believe that this is only the step and the next
- 30:01Speaker 13: major issue that Parliament needs to look at is something
- 30:03Speaker 13: called a gender setting where most people assume that councilors
- 30:07Speaker 13: make the decisions, but councilors can only make decisions based
- 30:11Speaker 13: on the information placed in front of them by staff.
- 30:14Speaker 13: So if elected members are only presented with one option,
- 30:18Speaker 13: or one perspective, or a faulted version of events, then
- 30:22Speaker 13: the decision has effectively been shaped before it reaches the council.
- 30:26Speaker 13: And I can assure you that at the Far North
- 30:28Speaker 13: District Council that information is highly faltered, so I understand
- 30:32Speaker 13: it's also happening with other councilors across New Zealand.
- 30:35Speaker 2: Isn't it the council's jobs though, to get the information
- 30:39Speaker 2: that they need and be fully aware of situations.
- 30:44Speaker 13: That's the exact point, Francisca, that we're not fully aware
- 30:47Speaker 13: of them because the staff or the department that the
- 30:51Speaker 13: information channels through is not accountable and we don't have
- 30:56Speaker 13: full visibility of implications of the decisions. We don't have
- 31:00Speaker 13: full visibility of alternative options. So removing unelected voting rights
- 31:06Speaker 13: was an important democratic reform, but examining the agenda setting
- 31:11Speaker 13: may well actually be the very next one.
- 31:14Speaker 2: And when you say gender setting, what do you mean there?
- 31:17Speaker 2: When it comes to how's it applicable? What you've just
- 31:20Speaker 2: been explaining.
- 31:22Speaker 13: So the information placed in front of us elective members
- 31:25Speaker 13: are only presented with one option or one perspective, and
- 31:29Speaker 13: that is presented by staff and predominantly it's through the
- 31:33Speaker 13: Maori Department or the EWE department.
- 31:36Speaker 2: Right, you're talking about agenda. Gotcha? Sorry, I thought you
- 31:39Speaker 2: said gender. You said agenda with the clears it up,
- 31:44Speaker 2: hence my confusion. So how will has change the Far
- 31:48Speaker 2: North District Council. Will it be a simple transformation once
- 31:51Speaker 2: the bill is passed?
- 31:54Speaker 13: Indeed, yes, so we have six months once the bill
- 31:56Speaker 13: is fast past to change things. I understand that on
- 32:00Speaker 13: one of the Hastings Water councils they have nine members
- 32:04Speaker 13: and only two are elected members. So it's going to
- 32:07Speaker 13: be a quick reshuffle for all councils around New Zealand.
- 32:12Speaker 13: To get their ducks lined up and ready. But the
- 32:14Speaker 13: government's given us six months to do that. So the
- 32:17Speaker 13: first domino has now fallen, and the next challenge will
- 32:21Speaker 13: be this agenda setting. We are ensuring that elected members
- 32:24Speaker 13: receive the balanced information and genuine options. So it's a
- 32:31Speaker 13: cause I intend to pursue with some determination and continue
- 32:34Speaker 13: leaving the conversation around that space.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Savina, thank you very much for your time this morning.
- 32:39Speaker 2: Appreciate it. It is six to six.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Before the news breaks here at first. Francesca Rudkin on
- 32:46Speaker 1: early edition with Spark for Business Technology that keeps Business Moving.
- 32:51Speaker 1: News talks there'd be.
- 32:53Speaker 2: Coming up at six. Heather to Pisy Allen is in
- 32:55Speaker 2: for Mike Hoskin and she joins me. Now, good morning morning, Francesca.
- 32:58Speaker 14: Now today, yesterday you complained about my temperature settings in
- 33:02Speaker 14: the studio, and today you have discovered that there is
- 33:06Speaker 14: somebody here running at like nineteen degrees and it's.
- 33:10Speaker 2: It's already when he's in here this morning. Yeah, yeah,
- 33:13Speaker 2: And I thought you were complaining that I had it too.
- 33:16Speaker 14: You did have too coldcause you were sitting at a
- 33:18Speaker 14: good You're sitting at a good twenty twenty to twenty three. Perfect,
- 33:21Speaker 14: but it keeps you away. Don't take offense because I'm
- 33:25Speaker 14: going to say it aren't I we are in different
- 33:27Speaker 14: hormonal periods of our lives.
- 33:29Speaker 2: Just because I run a fraction hotter, it doesn't running
- 33:32Speaker 2: about than me doesn't have anything to do with a
- 33:35Speaker 2: pleasant work.
- 33:36Speaker 14: You can play.
- 33:37Speaker 2: Give me another twelve months. You sitting in here on
- 33:39Speaker 2: twenty three like you're on holiday and fee or something.
- 33:42Speaker 14: Give me another, Give me another twelve months, and we've
- 33:44Speaker 14: running it down at seventeen.
- 33:47Speaker 2: Maybe what are you talking about on the show day again,
- 33:48Speaker 2: we're going to be talking to Simon.
- 33:49Speaker 11: What so?
- 33:50Speaker 14: Simon I think is doing the right thing and looks
- 33:53Speaker 14: a lot for people to get their heads around with us,
- 33:55Speaker 14: because it basically is going to read to a lot
- 33:57Speaker 14: of people like an anti Marty thing.
- 33:59Speaker 2: It's really not an an well let me part, but
- 34:01Speaker 2: it's just anti random people, like just random.
- 34:05Speaker 14: People getting getting put on these council committees and out
- 34:08Speaker 14: voting the election.
- 34:08Speaker 2: I still think counselors need to be a bit more
- 34:10Speaker 2: proactive and ask questions. If they feel that they've been
- 34:12Speaker 2: given a very limited amount of information, do something about it,
- 34:16Speaker 2: but make a question.
- 34:18Speaker 14: They went to get the info and they were told, no.
- 34:21Speaker 2: We've elected you to do that, so do it. Looking
- 34:23Speaker 2: forward to it. Here did you pussy? Allen is up
- 34:25Speaker 2: at Sex. Have a great day back tomorrow.
- 34:29Speaker 1: The same for more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge.
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