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  Speaker 1: My absolutely necessary steaming hot caramel macchiato with whipped cream
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  Speaker 1: and sprinkled cinnamon on top that gets me through even
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  Speaker 1: the toughest mornings. How are you doing today? Good. Good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here because today's a special day. It's
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  Speaker 1: not just me. I know. Stop cheering. And you guys
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  Speaker 1: probably already know who she is. She basically needs zero introduction,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm going to hype her up anyway because she
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  Speaker 1: deserves it. She's one of my favorite people on the internet.
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  Speaker 1: She's built an entire empire reading Reddit stories and roasting
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  Speaker 1: people who absolutely had it coming and she does plenty,
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  Speaker 1: plenty more. She's a beautiful soul and I am so
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  Speaker 1: happy to have her on today. Ladies and gentlemen, reading
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  Speaker 1: Reddit with Charlotte Dobre. Hey guys, it's not just me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with another person for once, but this was extremely, extremely,
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  Speaker 1: What are words?
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  Speaker 2: Requested.
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  Speaker 1: Requested.
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  Speaker 2: Demanded even.
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  Speaker 1: See, this is nice. This is nice. You can help
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  Speaker 1: me with my words.
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  Speaker 2: Call me Chris. We're here with Call Me Chris. Oh
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  Speaker 2: my gosh, I'm so excited. Thank you so much for
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  Speaker 2: having me.
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  Speaker 1: This is going to be fun. Thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: for coming on. Yeah, and if you guys don't know, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you do your own spiel, but what do
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  Speaker 1: you do? Obviously, you're a YouTuber, but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do the Reddit thing. I do the Reddit thing.
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  Speaker 2: And you might have seen me in your suggested because
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  Speaker 2: you watch Chris's channel and I do similar things. I'm
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  Speaker 2: meaner than her, so.
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  Speaker 1: so this is the first one starting off really light
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  Speaker 1: i 32 female think my husband 33 male maybe having
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  Speaker 1: an affair with the girl 19 female next door also
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  Speaker 1: i'm pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh that's like really just let's just jump.
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  Speaker 1: Right on in there okay have you read this one
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  Speaker 1: i have not okay good i haven't read it either
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  Speaker 1: so I just was like, this one sounds interesting. All right.
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  Speaker 1: My husband and I have been married for four years,
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  Speaker 1: dated for seven. We have one son who's two and
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  Speaker 1: I'm six months pregnant. I love him deeply. He's a
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  Speaker 1: very busy lawyer and often comes home late at night.
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  Speaker 1: I never thought he'd cheat on me, but since I
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  Speaker 1: began to get bigger, we've been having less sex. Spicy Sessions.
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  Speaker 1: A few months ago, a young woman moved into the
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  Speaker 1: condo about two doors down. She's a very beautiful girl,
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  Speaker 1: but a bit aloof to me. We did invite her
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  Speaker 1: over for a dinner party when she first came. A
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  Speaker 1: few weeks ago, I noticed that my husband followed her
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram. She's 19.
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  Speaker 2: You don't got to be doing that.
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  Speaker 1: No. Oh. No.
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  Speaker 2: What could they possibly be talking about?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I want to know
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  Speaker 1: what she posts now. Damn it. And added her on Snap. Oh. Wait, what?
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  Speaker 2: Even worse. Disappearing messages, even worse.
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  Speaker 1: This is terrible, okay. I asked him about it and
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  Speaker 1: said she followed him first and he didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: be rude. Okay, whatever. On Instagram, maybe, but Snap is
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  Speaker 1: fucking diabolical. Last week, I started noticing him using his
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  Speaker 1: phone more and more and generally being distracted. He said
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  Speaker 1: it was due to work, but two days ago, I
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  Speaker 1: saw a Snap notification on his phone with our neighbor's
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  Speaker 1: name on it. I asked him why he was Snapchatting
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  Speaker 1: her and he said that she was interested in law. Holy.
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  Speaker 1: brother dude and was asking him career advice at 12 a.m
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  Speaker 1: apparently via snapchat oh my god right okay yeah for
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  Speaker 1: sure dude she's just naked with a textbook in front
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  Speaker 1: of her yesterday i was taking his suits to dry
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  Speaker 1: to the dry cleaners and found a receipt for sushi
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  Speaker 1: restaurant from a few nights ago i miss sushi There's
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  Speaker 1: no sushi down in Texas.
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  Speaker 2: There's no sushi?
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  Speaker 1: Not in the middle of Texas.
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  Speaker 2: I'm heartbroken. Well, you should make some sushi.
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  Speaker 1: I should, I should. It's hard to get good fish
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  Speaker 1: down here though. Anyway, the sushi restaurant is close to
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  Speaker 1: our condo complex and nowhere near his office. There were
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  Speaker 1: two meals billed on the receipt. I confronted him when
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  Speaker 1: he came home from work and he said he took
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  Speaker 1: a client out for dinner, but there were so many
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  Speaker 1: nice restaurants near his office. Why the one near our house? Fair. Yeah, right? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's good deduction skills. I'm almost 90% certain he's cheating.
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  Speaker 1: What should I even do? I'm about to be a
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  Speaker 1: mother of two. I never even prepared for the possibility
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  Speaker 1: of this happening in our marriage and definitely not this soon. Crazy.
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  Speaker 1: This has updates, so we'll read them.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, love an update.
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  Speaker 1: But how are you feeling? What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: I think she should DM the girl. I think she
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  Speaker 2: should send a little hey girly DM. Yeah, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: messy like that, so... No, that's fair.
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  Speaker 1: And what would you say? Because clearly she'd be, well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe keeping it a secret, but.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a good point. She could just lie.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like, I mean, the girl in the story
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  Speaker 2: could also, like, check the phone type thing, check other...
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  Speaker 2: like check the laptop for messages, that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: She could do a little detective work. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I'm one of these people that just genuinely
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  Speaker 2: feels like if you have a feeling, I think that
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  Speaker 2: you should trust that feeling. I don't think that women's
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  Speaker 2: intuition is wrong very often.
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  Speaker 1: No, I agree. Yeah. What about you? I'd invite them
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  Speaker 1: over for dinner. Everybody over for dinner. And then I
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  Speaker 1: would previously had purchased air tags and I would place
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  Speaker 1: these air tags on them. I would take classes on
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  Speaker 1: how to slip stuff onto people. No, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Because you'd want proof, especially for her, since he's a lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: And like, that's like, like you need that in order
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  Speaker 1: for her to be okay for the rest of her life.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know. She would need to get some
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  Speaker 1: sort of tangible proof. So I feel like she would
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  Speaker 1: need to either get on his phone, take screenshots of
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  Speaker 1: them to herself or something like that. Yeah. Just to
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  Speaker 1: help herself legally.
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  Speaker 2: It's so scary being involved with like a lawyer. Like
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  Speaker 2: even my brother's a lawyer and he's like insanely smart.
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  Speaker 2: And like sometimes I know that he just sits there
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  Speaker 2: and like judges me when I talk because I'm not
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  Speaker 2: as smart as him. And I genuinely think he just
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  Speaker 2: sits there and judges everyone. But like, yeah, he his
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  Speaker 2: lawyer brain just goes like, well, do you have any proof?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have any evidence? Like always. So it makes
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  Speaker 2: it that much harder, right? They could represent themselves in divorce.
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  Speaker 1: Court, right? I would tell my partner that him being
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  Speaker 1: a 33 year old man, Snapchatting a 19 year old
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  Speaker 1: girl is completely inappropriate. And she can ask Google or
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  Speaker 1: any other lawyer for advice. Unacceptable. Sure. That's fine. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we think he's cheating. So another comment says,
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  Speaker 1: do you have the disposable funds necessary to hire a
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  Speaker 1: private investigator? Oh, I love those types of TikToks. They're
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  Speaker 1: Private investigator ones.
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  Speaker 2: Love that. Love that. Love to move in the shadows
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  Speaker 2: a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: In part to confirm, but also as an investment for
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  Speaker 1: a more favorable divorce settlement. OP said, we have a
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  Speaker 1: joint account and he might get suspicious if I withdraw
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  Speaker 1: a large sum of money. Maybe I can just investigate
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  Speaker 1: it myself. Get your binoculars, girl. But she's also got
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  Speaker 1: like a baby and she's pregnant. Not ideal. But we
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  Speaker 1: have an update and it's from a week later. Last
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  Speaker 1: Friday after work, he left for a supposed weekend golfing
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  Speaker 1: trip with his two friends to a place only an
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  Speaker 1: hour drive away. Follow him. Before he left, I texted
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  Speaker 1: the wife of one of his friends if she wanted
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  Speaker 1: to get together for brunch on Sunday. She said she
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  Speaker 1: had plans with her husband. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: This is excellent.
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  Speaker 1: This is good.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent investigative work.
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  Speaker 1: This is good. We're grabbing. We're grabbing proof.
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  Speaker 2: Making biscuits with the story.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I like that a lot. I then texted the
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  Speaker 1: wife of his other friend and surprise, she confirmed that
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  Speaker 1: her husband was at home and not going on any trip.
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  Speaker 1: I pretended like I didn't know and said goodbye to
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  Speaker 1: my husband as usual. However, I asked my retired uncle, 65,
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  Speaker 1: to follow my husband's car. Yeah, dude. Dude.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: My retired father, he would, he would jump on that
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  Speaker 1: shit so fast. He got nothing to do.
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  Speaker 2: I got nothing to do. I'm retired. This sounds like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: My husband does not know my uncle. Oh, perfect. So
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was a good plan.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Very good. Very good.
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  Speaker 1: My uncle followed him to the airport and took a
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  Speaker 1: picture of him walking with the neighbor girl. He followed
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  Speaker 1: them and said they checked into an airline with flights
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  Speaker 1: going to the Caribbean. Oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: The Caribbean, not the Caribbean.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: The Caribbean, like a nice, getaway luxury vacation on the.
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  Speaker 1: Beach an hour away what if something happened with the
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  Speaker 1: kids i thanked my uncle and gave him money for
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  Speaker 1: gas and his time but he refused i was obviously
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  Speaker 1: devastated and my son and i stayed with him and
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  Speaker 1: my aunt for the night they advised me to find
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  Speaker 1: a good divorce lawyer right away what kind of lawyers
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  Speaker 1: are brother.
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  Speaker 2: He does ip law so like contracts and Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 2: not like a litigator or a divorce lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: That's fair. That seems less, not less stressful, but I
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  Speaker 1: feel like divorce would be a nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: It gives you a very bleak outlook on relationships.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. When my husband came home Sunday night, I said
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  Speaker 1: I was filing for divorce. He acted really shocked and
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  Speaker 1: hurt and asked me why. I said I knew about
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  Speaker 1: his affair and I have proof. so he could stop
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  Speaker 1: acting stupid. He said, I was mistaken, and then I
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  Speaker 1: asked whether he enjoyed his beach vacation, and the look
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  Speaker 1: on his face was just undeniable. I guess he finally
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  Speaker 1: realized he was backed into a corner and had no
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  Speaker 1: more lies left to tell. He's not even good at it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like a lawyer would be better at having
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  Speaker 1: an affair than this.
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  Speaker 2: The average woman is like basically an FBI agent.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: You got to be so frigging sneaky and be able
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  Speaker 2: to hide your tracks to get past like most modern
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  Speaker 2: women with a computer or a phone.
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  Speaker 1: I told him I just wanted to know why. He
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  Speaker 1: said that he was shy and insecure growing up.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the victim card.
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  Speaker 1: He got bullied in fourth grade. And he had really
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  Speaker 1: low self-esteem. He said he felt validated by the attention
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  Speaker 1: of a younger woman and said it made him feel wanted.
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  Speaker 1: He admitted that it was a crush gone wrong. I said,
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  Speaker 1: there's no way I can trust him again. He said
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  Speaker 1: that's understandable and that he was sorry it has come
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  Speaker 1: to this. He said he probably made a mistake by
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  Speaker 1: marrying in his 20s. I'm so sad for this girl.
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  Speaker 1: That some men were ready to settle down at that age,
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  Speaker 1: but he realized he was not one of them. He
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  Speaker 1: said that he still loved me, though. Oh, good! Oh, thanks!
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  Speaker 1: But that it was best if we went our separate ways.
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  Speaker 1: The shittiest part of all this, he's staying at his
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  Speaker 1: mistress's condo a few doors down.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, she has to see her. See her and him.
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  Speaker 2: That's terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. While they're getting a divorce. It will
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  Speaker 1: be a long few months, but I'm getting a good
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  Speaker 1: lawyer and making sure the future of my kids are secured.
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  Speaker 1: I also have good support system around me. I'm planning
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  Speaker 1: on moving to another city after the divorce. It will
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  Speaker 1: be a while before I can learn to trust again.
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  Speaker 1: I never hurt so much in my entire life. This
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  Speaker 1: level of betrayal from someone you thought was your soulmate
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  Speaker 1: is just indescribable, but I'm going to remain hopeful. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for everyone's help and support. I wish it turned out different.
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  Speaker 2: Bestie.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that sucks. That sucks. That's very sad. I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: it happened so soon, you know? Yeah. Because, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, 10 years down the line, and if
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  Speaker 1: he was, like, sneakier.
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  Speaker 2: Men who are going to cheat are going to cheat.
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  Speaker 2: That's just, like, the bottom line, you know? And, like,
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  Speaker 2: I think she's still young. Like, obviously, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: take her a while to trust someone again. But, like,
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  Speaker 2: there's totally the possibility that she could meet someone else.
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  Speaker 2: My friend has two kids, and she had, like, a
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  Speaker 2: baby daddy. Baby daddy's in jail in Singapore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then she literally just got engaged to this wonderful man. And, like,
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  Speaker 2: they were dating for, like, six months. And she finally, like,
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  Speaker 2: she ended it with her baby daddy when he was
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  Speaker 2: in jail. And then just, like, found this wonderful man
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  Speaker 2: and can't even imagine her life without him. And they're
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  Speaker 2: getting married. So I feel like... Life isn't over, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I know a couple people that got
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  Speaker 1: divorces that have kids. I'm from, like, the Bible Belt.
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  Speaker 1: So everybody's married at, like, 20 years old. And they're, like,
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  Speaker 1: twice divorced now. But there's a lot of people out there.
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  Speaker 2: So she'd be all right.
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  Speaker 1: She'd be all right.
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  Speaker 2: There's another, like, wave of people entering the dating pool
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  Speaker 2: that are, like, recently divorced with, like, young kids who
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  Speaker 2: are also looking for people who are, like, down for
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  Speaker 2: people with kids. So, like.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Okay, this is... I'm scared of this one. But
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  Speaker 1: the next one is I, 25 female, just found something
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  Speaker 1: really disgusting this morning that my boyfriend, 26 male, left
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  Speaker 1: in the living room.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we should speculate.
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  Speaker 2: Can I say condom?
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Can I say used condom?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. Used up. Yep. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps.
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  Speaker 2: Or poo. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I've been with my boyfriend for two years and we've
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  Speaker 1: been living together for the past few months. Now, generally,
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  Speaker 1: I've come to accept him for being a guy and
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: not cleaning up after himself. That shouldn't be a thing,
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  Speaker 1: by the way.
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  Speaker 2: That shouldn't be like, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an adult now. I clean up after myself. I
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  Speaker 1: like to live in a clean house. I don't like
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  Speaker 1: that excuse where it's like, oh, he's just a guy. No.
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  Speaker 2: Have you heard the thing about boyfriend air where it's
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  Speaker 2: like when you go to like a guy's house, you'll
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  Speaker 2: like you'll sleep on his pillow and he doesn't like
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  Speaker 2: wash his sheets and you come out with like acne
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  Speaker 2: and like there's just like a stale kind of like
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  Speaker 2: smell to the air. It's a thing.
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  Speaker 1: It is a thing.
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  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't mean it's excusable, but like it's fully
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  Speaker 2: a thing.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's a thing. You don't have to be like OCD,
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  Speaker 1: but my God, like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The socks are on the ground, the hamper's right there. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Please wash your towels.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's gotten a lot better at it though, so
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  Speaker 1: I'll give him that. Anyway, this morning I went downstairs
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  Speaker 1: as usual to clean up a bit, and when I
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: went to pick up the remote off the floor, I
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: noticed a white McDonald's cup.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's poo in the cup?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, yeah, wait, yeah, there's a condom and shit
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  Speaker 1: in the cup. And mold. Thinking it was just leftover drink,
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  Speaker 1: I went to go dump it in the sink, only
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  Speaker 1: to realize that there was piss in the cup.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so not number two, but number one.
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  Speaker 1: Number one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Wow, it's kind of like a combination of what
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  Speaker 2: we both thought.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of sad.
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  Speaker 1: Cup and waste. I'm not sure how long it was
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  Speaker 1: sitting behind the chair, but it smelled really bad. Ew,
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  Speaker 1: it was pretty much full with ashes at the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of it. He smokes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wait, so there's piss and ash? Piss and ash.
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  Speaker 1: He used it as an ash cup and then he
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  Speaker 1: pissed in the cup and left it on the living
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  Speaker 1: room floor. I don't really know how to go about
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  Speaker 1: talking to him about this or how to even bring
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  Speaker 1: it up. Advice anyone. I would go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: Um, right in his face. No.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's a problem. How does it not bother him?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just like, I have a nose like a dog.
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  Speaker 2: And like, if I smell even just like a little
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: bit of like something and I have a dog as well.
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  Speaker 2: So like, I'm very sensitive to like the shit, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I got seven.
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  Speaker 2: It's got like piss paws and like shit butt. Like
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  Speaker 2: I smell it from a mile away. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how you can exist within the vicinity of a piss
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  Speaker 2: ash cup.
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  Speaker 1: No, because you can smell like especially bad, not drinking
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  Speaker 1: water piss, like smoker. Yeah. Oh, totally.
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  Speaker 2: It has a must.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: It has a stank.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: First comment says, don't ask. Tell boyfriend I was cleaning
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: up the other day and found a cup behind the
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: chair and it smelled like three week old piss and
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: it had cigarette ashes in it. It smelled really bad
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: and I'm really grossed out. You don't need to know
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: if it's piss or how long it's been there or
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: whether he'll clean it up next time or why he
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: didn't clean it up this time. You need him to
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: know how finding something so nasty affected you. Okay. Yeah.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, just go. Reddit's always like black or white.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: They're like, Kill him.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, literally kill. Divorce. Yeah, I'd want to find out
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: more information for sure. Like, how is it possible that
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: you could have left this here or done it in
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: the first place?
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this person's like, skip that information. Just tell him
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: he's disgusting, basically. Which, I mean, you can't be mad. whatever.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: But I'm trying to imagine my husband leaving that and
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, what is this? Why did this happen?
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: And then he'd tell me and I'd be like, all right,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: let's not do that again. And then it's fine. If
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: this isn't a recurring thing, I don't know. I feel
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: like it's not a big deal. I think there is
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: an update though. Oh, there it is. Somehow an update
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: to this post. Okay. All right, as soon as he
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: got home from work this morning, I told him that
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: we needed to have a serious conversation. We both sat
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: down and I told him that I found the cup
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: he had been pissing in behind the chair. That it
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen and I
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: was repulsed that he would actually do something like that
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: when we have a perfectly working bathroom upstairs. I also
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: miss people saying washroom.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Washroom?
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody says washroom. Everybody says restroom. Oh, yeah.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: There's a bit of a cultural, like, what do they say? Restroom?
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody says restroom or bathroom, but mostly restroom down
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: here drives me nuts. And I say, where's the washroom?
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: And they're like, what? I'm like, you know what I mean.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: You wash your hands.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Man, this is America. We say bathroom.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: He started to actually defend himself. as to why he
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: was using it.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: No, not the defending.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: No, just say sorry. Just say sorry. I tried to
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: stay calm, but I couldn't anymore, and eventually it turned
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: into a heated argument. He stated that the cup was
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: easier to use than going upstairs to use our bathroom,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: which is seriously 30 feet away.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: That is foul.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: And he usually dumps it in the kitchen sink when
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: he's finished. Just put it in the toilet, you fucking fuck.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Are you actually kidding me right now?
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: With the dirty dishes? No, no. Piss and ashes all
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: over it. I can't defend him anymore. I can't defend
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: him anymore. Oh my god. That's disgusting. WTF. That right
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: there was a deal breaker for me. This has been
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: going on for quite some time. Upon further inspection where
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I originally found the cup, I could clearly see urine
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: stains on the floor. Oh, how I didn't know about
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: this sooner. I don't know, but I'm really glad that
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I do now. I can't continue to live with this
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: sick any longer i'll be moving my things out today
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: and we'll be staying with a friend for the time being.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I don't blame her it would be one thing if
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: he was like oh my god i i forgot yeah
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: oh my god i'm so sorry but no he wanted
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: to keep doing it he doubled down he doubled down
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: on the piss.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Cup yeah he did no no that's terrible you're living
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: with a with a I don't even know.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: That is like, that is like, it's the bare minimum.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Hygiene is literally the bare minimum. Not even just to
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: be a man, like to be a human being. I'm, I'm,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: that is a deal breaker for me too, honestly.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Okay. The next one is kept the birth of my
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: child private and now I'm paying for it. You don't
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: have kids, right?
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: No, not yet.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Not yet. Not yet.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: You know, interested in that.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: What about you? Also interested. Not.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Not like... Not yet. Not yet. But it's a prospect. Yeah. Basically,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: you know, just got married. I know. Literally.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Like, give me a second.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I know. Yeah. Everybody around is like, when is it happening?
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like... I know. Let me live. I have seven
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: dogs and four cats, man. Let me just... In jail
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and like 12 cows.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: You have 12 cows. I love that.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I love you're living the dream, man.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: That's so cool.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I live in that farm life for real. I had
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: a baby just over a month ago. My husband and
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I decided we wanted everything about the delivery to be private.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: No visitors at all. We just thought it may reduce
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: some stress and we felt it was an intimate moment
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: for just the two of us to share. For your future,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: what do you think you'll do? If you have, if
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you give birth, whatever, I don't know what your dream is, whatever. Yeah.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I think in terms of like the birth, I think
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I would probably want my mom there at the very
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: least and my husband. But I've actually heard of people
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: kind of in the delivery room, like just recovering from
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: this like, you know, kind of traumatic thing. And then
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: everybody's kind of coming to see the baby. My friend
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: even told me she just gave birth in like December
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: and she said that she was literally like naked and
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: like all of her in-laws were like coming in the
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: room to see the baby. And I'm like, what the
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: actual f * * *? I would be like mortified.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, me too. I like the idea of it
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: being just like close family. And then like maybe, you know,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: after I'm covered up and like, you know, I've had
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: a second, then maybe people can come see me and
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: the baby in the hospital. But yeah, I don't know.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: How about you? I live far from my family. They're
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: in Canada. So for me, probably just Caleb. But if
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: my mom was to like come down around that time,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: if I was to, then I wouldn't be upset if
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: she was there. Cause I'm really close with my mom.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming you are too. So yeah.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she also doesn't live here either, my mom too,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: so we'd have to give her a week's notice or something.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, be on standby. Yeah, literally. My delivery was long
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and hard and ended in a C-section. We ended up
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: not telling anybody that our baby was born until about
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: 24 hours after the fact because we were just exhausted
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and wanted to be sure nobody showed up without an invitation.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: My husband's family reacted so well to the news, they
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: were super excited for us. My parents did not react well.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: My dad blew up on us, saying we should be
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: ashamed of ourselves. And how dare I break the news
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: so late to them since they helped pay for my college.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I beg your finest pardon, no.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: What? Are you paying for the baby's college?
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Literally, I paid for your college, now you must submit.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: What, right? Came to emergency situations. That's what they're saying.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: They came to emergency situations and raised me. My mom
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: sent me and my husband a message, basically guilting us
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: for the decision we made and for not letting them
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: know sooner. The next day, my dad sent me this
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: long hateful message, essentially saying I did my parents wrong.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I'm abusive. My husband is abusing me. My husband is
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: literally perfect. So I don't know where this is coming
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: from and that I will be on an island alone
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: with no love and support. Cut them. Oh my God.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. This is terrible. I responded and said, I
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: was sorry. Their feelings were hurt. I tried to understand
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: where all these accusations were coming from, that I thought
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: it was not right that we were getting treated this
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: way for a decision that was ours to make. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: that I was hurt that he would treat me this
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: way and not even ask me how I was doing
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: freshly postpartum when I'm already dealing with enough as it is.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: You just got cut open on a That's literally so inconsiderate. And, like,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: also you're kind of taking away the joy that you're
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: only going to feel, like, a few times if more
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: than once in your life of having a kid. And, like,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: he's taking– her family is, like, taking that away from her.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Because– of their own like weird fixation on what they
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: felt the birth should have been.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: That's upsetting.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I hate that perspective. I always, I always see the
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: mother-in-law things where they like need to be involved in
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: all this. So I'm glad the dad's family's like that,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: but for them, I don't know. There's just something about
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: your own mom and your own dad as the mom,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: like that would just break my heart. Devastating. So devastating.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah. My dad basically blew me off
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: saying he didn't ask how I was doing because I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: should just be giving this information without him having to ask.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: That he would not be following the rules we made
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: for our child because we don't control him. And to
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: not bother inviting him to see me and the baby
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: because he is done and to have a good life.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Who are these people? What is going on? I don't know.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: This whole situation is sad and this reaction is just insane.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: My dad hasn't spoken to me since and I don't
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: feel like I should reach out at this point even
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: though I feel sad about things going this way. My
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: mom eventually said she felt bad for the way that
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: they acted but is now acting like nothing ever happened
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: and I don't know how to feel about that. I
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: just want to know if I'm missing something and treated
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: them poorly. I feel in my core that I just
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: want to be done because it feels so exhausting pretending
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: everything is fine But I also don't want to lose
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: contact with my family. This is just confusing and frustrating. Oh,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: that's awful.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: That's a heavy one.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Dang. Yeah. And for the mom to just ignore it,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: just to be like, we're not going to address it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Like whatever.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Some people operate that way though. Like there's a lot
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: of family members. Like this, like obviously I don't like
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: diagnosing people, but it kind of sounds a little like
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: this is a little bit of narcissism going on. Little
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: bit of narcissism.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I'm a straight up diagnosis of narcissism. You kidding me? 100%.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Both of them. Both of them. Totally.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: And like they, with narcissistic parents, which is actually like
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: very common, they never apologize. And they almost feel like
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: you are indebted to that parent for like the rest
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: of your life. For them literally doing the bare minimum. Like, sorry,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: you decided to be a parent. You have to do
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: everything that you signed up for doing the bare minimum.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Like raising a child is not like, that's not, you
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: don't get a medal for that. Like that child is
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: not indebted to you for the rest of your life. Um,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: and it has to make decisions entirely based on, you know,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: what you would think. Yeah. So yeah, it definitely sucks.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I can totally understand her not wanting to lose contact
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: with her family.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I grew up with this type of dynamic. Oh,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Oh no, it's fine. It was one of
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: my parents. And like you learn, you just learn that
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: your parents are people too. And this parent has like
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: learned now-ish and it's good. But yeah, it's just at
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: some point, and unfortunately she's learning it later in life,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: but I'm assuming they were like this through their whole life.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: And she's learning it really late with this. And unfortunately
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: it's with the birth of her child. And it's just like,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you don't actually owe them anything. Those are your parents.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I actually find it very interesting that in her vulnerable
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: state of giving birth, she didn't want to be around
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: her parents.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Yep. Says a lot.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: So it does say something like I know she didn't
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: allude to like any backstory or whatever, but like that
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: is like you're so vulnerable in that moment. And that
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: is one thing that you can absolutely control. And it's
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: interesting that she chose that she wanted to be alone
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and not around her family for that moment.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: There is an update. I'm just going to skip the
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: comments because I feel like. We handled it.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: What we say goes.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't even need anybody else's opinion, okay? I
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: have Charlotte's opinion. Three months later, my dad still isn't
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: talking to me. He hasn't seen my baby, hasn't reached out, nothing. Honestly,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the whole not talking to me thing isn't even what
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: makes me so upset. It's that apparently his pride and
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: entitlement is more important than knowing my baby. It's so
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: hard to not just boil over the fact that he's
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: acting this way. My grandma, my dad's mom, accidentally sent
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: a text that was clearly not meant for me. She
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: was texting me asking how we were doing and I
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: replied we were doing good. I was taking baby's one
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: month pictures and that I would send her some of
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: them when I was finished. After five minutes, she texted,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: my name is taking baby's one month pictures and that
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: she would send them. So yeah, I guess that's to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the dad. Okay, if you don't want pictures of my baby,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: just say that. Maybe I'm reading too far into the text,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: but it's just got me so angry because I'm confident
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: that was meant for my dad to get him pissed off. Yeah,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: because I'm sure they're embarrassed.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: To get him pissed off?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe because her grandma, his mom, feels like he's
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: acting like a little prick. So maybe she's sending them
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: to make him feel bad, maybe?
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I kind of had it in my head that she
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: was like asking for him because he wanted to see
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: the baby.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But she said, so I think I read it kind
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: of poorly. So it said, my name is taking baby's
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: one month pictures and that she would send them dot, dot, dot, okay,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: with this emoji. Like the grandma is saying, okay. So
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: maybe she's actually- On the dad's side. Oh, weird. Like,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's such a weird text.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be sending those pictures anymore.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, now that I'm reading it again, because she's
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: like ellipses and then, uh, okay, with a question mark
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and then like this.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: It's a little sassy.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: It's like, why are you telling me that? Yeah. It's so,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: it's very strange. She asked. What the fuck? Just a
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: little more context to why that would piss me off.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: We asked everyone that was going to receive pictures of
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: our baby to not post them or send them to anyone.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: And my dad lashed out at me saying I was
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: going to control how he loves his grandbaby as if
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: exploiting the baby is a way to love. Anyway, this
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: was really disappointing because I've always had a good relationship
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: with my grandmother, but now I feel I can't trust her. Okay. Yeah.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Cause she would, maybe she would have sent them. to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: him on top of that she went from texting me
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: several times a week to not talking to me for
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: three weeks straight then proceeded to text my mom and
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: sister asking if i was okay because she hadn't heard
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: from me as if i've been ignoring her this whole
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: thing with her just has me irritated i let my
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: mom come to visit once the visit went fine but
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: i can't help but feel like our relationship is ruined
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: i didn't enjoy the visit i just felt the memories
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: of what happened immediately postpartum looming over my head i'm
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: just waiting for the day she suggests i reach out
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: to my dad which i won't be doing good for
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you Good for you. That's a hard stance to make,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: but that's honestly, that's probably the best thing you could do.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: My mom does this thing that makes me so angry,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: like asking my sister to send pictures of my baby
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: when she knows the rules are nobody is supposed to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: send pictures of my baby to anyone. My sister never
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: sends her the pictures. My sister has been so amazing.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do without her. Mom's
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: asking my sister for pictures makes me feel like she
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't care about the boundaries we set and she has
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: no problem being sneaky to get what she wants. Another
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: thing she keeps saying is, when are y'all coming down
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: to visit? Visit for what? To hang out until my
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: dad comes home and a big fight breaks out in
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: front of my baby? For him to just get what
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: he wants after treating me and my husband like garbage?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: No thanks. Sometimes I wonder if I'm overreacting to all
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: these things. I'm just so physically tired with everything that
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: comes with the baby. I adore my baby. That child
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: is the light of my life. It's just hard. I
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: think I have some postpartum rage or depression or something
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: like that really amps up my feelings in regards to this.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I'm just so incredibly angry about it all. Some days
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I can't forget about it and I put my phone
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: on do not disturb and keep busy. Yeah, and that's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: basically it for that. I don't think there's any other.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think she's overreacting at all. I think that like,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: you know, I honestly feel like low contact is probably
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  Speaker 2: the only thing that she could possibly do right now.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: It's interesting that she's like, still talking to them like
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that she needs to talk to a
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  Speaker 2: therapist genuinely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, for sure.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I bet you anything. It's not just the, like the
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: whole birthing fiasco. Like, I think that this gut like
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: runs very, very deep. And I think that the dad,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: it's interesting that he's saying that like, you can't control me,
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  Speaker 2: but it's actually him. That's trying to be like very
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: controlling of like her experience and her like child and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: the way that she chooses to like live her life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think therapy would be very helpful because
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: you need to let go. You got to learn to
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: let go.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Should help me. I don't know if you've ever done therapy, but.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, hell yeah. I did it yesterday.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Yeah, no, it's good. It's good. It kind
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: of feels like a chore sometimes, but it's like, man,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I needed that. It's hard. It's hard with like having
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: a narcissistic parent. For me, I feel like I realized
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that really early on. So I feel like it's good
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that she said, no, I'm not talking to him. She's already,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: she's made her own boundaries, which is great. I think
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it's great that she made boundaries with her. kid. I
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: don't understand people wanting to, I mean, I know it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: a different time and it's a different generation, but people
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: not respecting what people want to do with their own babies.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I don't understand that. It's like, don't post them. Why
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: are you posting them? It's just so self-serving. Again, it's
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: a narcissistic quality. It's like, well, it's my... grandbaby, I
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: want to post them or I want to share this
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: or whatever. So yeah, I think she's surrounded by a
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: lot of self-serving people. Luckily her husband's good and her
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: husband's family's good and she's got a good support system.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Thank goodness. She'll be fine. But yeah, for sure. Get
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: some therapy. Get some therapy. realize that your dad is
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: not your end all be all and you don't owe
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: him anything.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's great that she's able to stick to
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: her boundaries because like man when you finally decided to
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: set boundaries you are gonna piss some people.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Off yes it like it is just crazy how people
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: it's like crazy how much they try to like push.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: You oh yeah when you tell them no it's so
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: bizarre it's like i'm literally like no and i don't
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: have to give a reason yeah absolutely it's Yeah, absolutely.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like, yeah, I don't know if you've
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: got a little hint of that when planning your wedding
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. Oh, totally. You're like, no. Oh yeah.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, I, I come from like, my mom's like
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: an Italian matriarch with like, let's invite the cousin Donatella.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: And it's like, I don't know who that is. Who
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: is Donatella? Oh, but she knew you when you were
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: a baby.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Versace?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I wish I would invite Donatella Versace.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: You think she'd come?
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: No, but like, it was just like a lot of
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: like pushiness and like, oh, but you have to invite
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: your cousin. Oh, but you have to do that. Like,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: why aren't you like, you know, it was a lot
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: of pushiness and I gave in in some ways. And
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: then in other ways I was like, No, they didn't
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: No, it's not good. And there's, yeah, there's so many
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: opinions when those big events happen or like when you're
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: having a kid and that kind of thing. It's just like,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm, I was to the point where
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even want to deal with it.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: So I do, but I had a one and a
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: half minute ceremony on our laptop in our kitchen. And
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: then we had a barbecue, a family barbecue for our wedding.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: But it was still inviting.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: We still invited people. So there was still the whole
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: thing where it's like, oh, you know, and it's always mom.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: It's always mom being like, well, she knew you when she,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: when you were two. Like, of course she wants to.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know her.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, literally.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: They bring out usually the worst in people or the best,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: but usually the worst. And those aren't really what those
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: people are like, hopefully, most of the time. I know
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like my mom. I was like, who is this?
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Who's this monster?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Monster.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for real. But no, I love my mom. Sorry, mom. Sorry. Yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Same here.
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  Speaker 1: Love, love you. Love you. Love you.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Everything was fine.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: We want you at our births if we ever give birth. Okay.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I mean, I, I won't keep you for,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: for much longer, but thank you for being on the channel.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Sorry for ending on like such a
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: bleak note.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I could never be bleak with you, darling.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: You're welcome.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: This was really fun.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Let people know where they can find you. And
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be on Charlotte's channel in a, in
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: a few weeks as well.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: So you can find me if you, if you search Charlotte,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I'm the first one that comes up. That is a
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: flex that I really, it is the flex. I think
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: It is. Absolutely.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if you enjoyed this video, obviously come over
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: and say hi and hang out. I post like several
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: times a week on my various channels and thank you
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: so much for having me. This was like a lot
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: of fun.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this was fun. Thank you. It was nice to
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: not feel like a little crazy person sitting and talking
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to myself all the time.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: It's just refreshing.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: So I'll have to do it again sometime. It is nice.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, I would love that.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, wonderful. Well, thank you. Bye, guys. Thank you. We'll
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: see you in the next one.