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Breaking News - Taylor Frankie Paul Faces ANOTHER Allegation · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2: Everybody's Bob getting here, Almost Famous the Ogs doing a
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Speaker 2: breaking news episode. Taylor Frankie Paul TFP. She's back in
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Speaker 2: the news, everybody, and it's not pretty at all. Heather
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Speaker 2: Monday's joining me, our producer, extraordinary reality expert to be Bob.
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Speaker 1: I don't think she's left the news. I think it's
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Speaker 1: just been enough line every couple of hours with this one.
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Speaker 1: So I'm glad we're jumping on now to talk about
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Speaker 1: this latest one because it is a big one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I gotta say, I mean part of me,
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Speaker 2: part of me is perplexed on this.
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Speaker 3: I'm reading the news.
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Speaker 2: It was.
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Speaker 3: It was flashed all over the place today.
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Speaker 2: Police investigating Mormon wife star Taylor Frankie Paul on third
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Speaker 2: allegation of domestic violence. Police and Utah said they're investigating
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Speaker 2: an allegation of domestic violence for me twenty twenty four
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Speaker 2: insident that Dakota Mortensen made against Paul last month. So
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Speaker 2: a lot of questions about this. First of all, when
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Speaker 2: does it end right? I mean, at the end of
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Speaker 2: the day, you know, they always say you can't trust
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Speaker 2: a man with two first names. I don't know if
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Speaker 2: you've ever heard that, but this really begs the question
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Speaker 2: can we trust anybody with three first names? Because I
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Speaker 2: think TFP is going off the rails on this. And
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Speaker 2: I don't say that in a mean way. I say
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Speaker 2: that more from a standpoint of gosh, you gotta be
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Speaker 2: careful what you wish for, right all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: you have this, this notoriety and dare I say, fame
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Speaker 2: and man, everything is coming out of the woodwork at
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Speaker 2: this point, and I feel so bad for the kids.
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Speaker 3: I feel so bad for her children. Who are you know?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know Taylor Frankie Paul, I don't
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Speaker 2: know her at all. I do know that I thought
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Speaker 2: it was a risk for the franchise to take a
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Speaker 2: step in this direction, but seemed like a calculated one,
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Speaker 2: given the fact that they've been doing reality TV for
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Speaker 2: so long, and to be in a situation now where
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Speaker 2: you're like, oh my gosh, you know, like the franchise
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Speaker 2: has just exploded or imploded, I guess is a better
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Speaker 2: way to put it.
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Speaker 1: And imploded for sure, imploded.
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Speaker 2: And this poor in this woman, And I say poor woman,
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Speaker 2: but I realize, you know, I just I feel for
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Speaker 2: everybody involved in this. Like it sounds terrible to say
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Speaker 2: this because I always think there's three size to every story.
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Speaker 2: Right her side, his side, the truth, and and somehow
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Speaker 2: someway in the middle of this thing is the truth
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Speaker 2: that these two people loved each other at one point,
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Speaker 2: and I don't know what.
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Speaker 3: Their relationship is now. It doesn't seem like they love
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Speaker 3: each other anymore.
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Speaker 2: But these poor children that are getting just like their
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Speaker 2: mom is just getting destroyed, and and you know they
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Speaker 2: probably had to witness. I mean, we already know from
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Speaker 2: the TMZ video that was leaked last week that one
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Speaker 2: of the children at least was present, or two of
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Speaker 2: the children, because one of them, one of the children
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Speaker 2: was upstairs throwing up, and it was just like God,
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Speaker 2: these poor kids. I mean, when, what do you think
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Speaker 2: about all this?
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, obviously this is a third allegation
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Speaker 1: that we are hearing about, so we don't know. Again,
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Speaker 1: she's not been charged with anything or arrested for anything,
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Speaker 1: but it's not a good sign to continually. You know,
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Speaker 1: we're like less than a week from them pulling the
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Speaker 1: plug on the show and another allegation coming forward, So
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Speaker 1: I think we should dive into this because I think
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Speaker 1: it is interesting what you pointed out to me about
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Speaker 1: the timeline of everything, kind of putting this all together,
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Speaker 1: because it says that officials are investigating allegations of a
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Speaker 1: third domestic violence incident involving secret lives of Mormon Wives
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Speaker 1: stars Taylor, Frankie Paul, and Decota Martinsen. Police spokesman told
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Speaker 1: NBC on Tuesday, Dakota contacted the West Jordan, Utah Police
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Speaker 1: Department last month with allegations of domestic violence against Taylor
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Speaker 1: stemming from an incident in twenty twenty four. The spokesperson
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Speaker 1: added that he could not provide further detail, citing that
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Speaker 1: it was an open investigation. So we already know that
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Speaker 1: there was the twenty twenty three incident, which is the
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Speaker 1: one that we've all seen the footage from, and that's
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Speaker 1: the one she was arrested and charged that night. Now,
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Speaker 1: she was also on probation for that twenty twenty three incident.
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Speaker 1: She was on probation while she was filming the show. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the show knew she was on probation. I just want
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Speaker 1: everybody to know that that that was not a surprise,
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Speaker 1: and we can go further into that that they knew
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Speaker 1: she was on probation because they couldn't actually film outside
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Speaker 1: of the US because she's interested. So her filming, I
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Speaker 1: believe the finale took place in Saint Lucia, which is
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Speaker 1: I think part of a US territory terratory. Yeah, that's
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Speaker 1: why there was no international travel for her season.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: I asked this question on this like a twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: four incident, So okay, the twenty twenty three incident clearly.
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Speaker 3: Was where all this originally was stemming from.
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Speaker 2: Right, The season was canceled based on the footage we
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Speaker 2: saw on TMZ and everywhere else.
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Speaker 1: But to be clear, we all knew about this, and.
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Speaker 3: We knew about that, and they knew, and then producers knew.
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Speaker 1: Producers knew this was covered on her other show. It
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Speaker 1: was in the very first episode. We already knew. We
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Speaker 1: have seen her. She has openly talked about this on
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Speaker 1: numerous podcasts over the years, so it was not a
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Speaker 1: secret at all. But the footage was the kicker because
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Speaker 1: we had ever seen that, and that is clearly what's
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Speaker 1: solidified there be damning didn't to yank it off. Now
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Speaker 1: we also know that there was something that happened last
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Speaker 1: month in February either the twenty third, twenty fourth, that's
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Speaker 1: a little muddled there, but we know that something happened
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Speaker 1: between her and Dakota, which then led to the Mormon
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Speaker 1: wives banding together and saying we are not comfortable filming.
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Speaker 1: So cameras are currently down on that show. Now, Taylor
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Speaker 1: still traveled to Los Angeles, attended the Academy Awards, had
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Speaker 1: her special air all before that situation was made known
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Speaker 1: that Sunday night. Yeah, so what it looks like is
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Speaker 1: whatever this twenty twenty four incident was My guess in
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Speaker 1: reading this article would be that not only did Dakota
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Speaker 1: talk to cops about whatever maybe happened on the twenty third,
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Speaker 1: but he also said, oh, and there's something from twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four I should tell you about, and allegedly, you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe he went into detail. Then maybe he's been in
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Speaker 1: communications with the cops, you know, in these last three
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Speaker 1: weeks and has decided to bring this up. It definitely
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Speaker 1: sounds like an evolving timeline of situation that we're following.
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Speaker 2: I question a couple things, so, you know, the twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four incident like that being conversationally brought up and
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, knowing what we now know of Taylor,
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Speaker 2: he probably had his camera rolling, is phone working at
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Speaker 2: that point in time.
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Speaker 3: But you know, if she was on probation already.
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Speaker 2: Then and that was from twenty twenty three incident, my
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Speaker 2: guess would be that that twenty twenty four incident, if
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Speaker 2: it were to have been brought up, was probably brought
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Speaker 2: up about violating the probation right or something of that nature.
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Speaker 1: We already we've seen reports that whatever the incident was
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Speaker 1: last month could be if it moves forward, because again
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Speaker 1: there's no arrest or anything has happened in whatever happened
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Speaker 1: last month. I just note that the cops were called.
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Speaker 1: That's the only like finite thing that we know. But
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Speaker 1: that situation, yes, could be if it moves forward, would
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Speaker 1: be a violation of her parole, which could then mean
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Speaker 1: because her twenty twenty three situation, as part of the
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Speaker 1: plea deal that she took, she has to remain in
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Speaker 1: good standing. I'm not a lawyer during her probation. Otherwise,
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Speaker 1: the charges from twenty twenty three will not be lessened
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Speaker 1: that as part of that, and she'll actually get a
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Speaker 1: firmer sentence, sentence or felony attached to her for violating
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Speaker 1: her parole and increased charges, but it does say here
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Speaker 1: it says the department is reviewing multiple videos connected to
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Speaker 1: the alleged event to figure out details and timelines. So
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Speaker 1: I think we're not the only ones who are a
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Speaker 1: little confused on the timeline. The spokesman said he could
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Speaker 1: not share the exact dates of the twenty twenty four incident,
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Speaker 1: and police have only Dakota's account of the alleged twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four incident. So we're definitely going to be following
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Speaker 1: this story as it keeps continuing to progress almost daily.
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Speaker 1: At this point, it's got.
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Speaker 3: To be so hard. I mean, think about this from
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Speaker 3: a mental health perspective.
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Speaker 2: And this is not joking at all, like not making
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Speaker 2: light of this, because I think it's very serious to
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Speaker 2: go from the height of your premiere, right, I mean,
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Speaker 2: your show is preparing to premiere, and so you're doing
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Speaker 2: this press around it, and you're excited, and you know,
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Speaker 2: regardless of what the outcome was, it's going to be
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Speaker 2: a huge moment in your life, in your family's life.
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Speaker 2: And to go from that high to then the video
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Speaker 2: being leaked and all these other things happening. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I can't even and now you know, calling into question
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Speaker 2: whether or not. I mean, I'm sure this stuff is
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Speaker 2: being released in a way to create a custody situation
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Speaker 2: that will be favorable for the individual releasing that video, right,
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know the guy, but I can't
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Speaker 2: imagine that that's being released in any other capacity.
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Speaker 1: Well, we know he's been granted a restraining order from her,
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Speaker 1: and he has been granted temporary soul custody of their child,
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Speaker 1: so she's not allowed to see their kid, have contact
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Speaker 1: with him until they're hearing, which I believe is April
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Speaker 1: seventh as of right now. So it is really taking
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Speaker 1: a hard turn in the last I mean, we're talking,
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Speaker 1: you know, week, and I agree with you that it
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Speaker 1: is for anybody's mental health that would be a lot.
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Speaker 1: But she's really under they both are really under a
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Speaker 1: microscope right now, and in terms of public scrutiny and
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Speaker 1: in terms of how fast the Internet is moving, there's
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Speaker 1: no way that they are not both facing an influx
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Speaker 1: of really dangerous and kind of harmful messages to themselves,
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Speaker 1: which is why and again I hate that we have
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Speaker 1: to say this every single time we get on Nobody
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Speaker 1: is condoning acts of violence or saying that what she
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Speaker 1: did was okay. Nobody is saying that. At the end
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Speaker 1: of the day, we are saying that these are human beings,
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Speaker 1: and as much as we don't condone what they did,
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Speaker 1: we're not the judge and jury in this situation of
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Speaker 1: anybody's life. And we just know that she is facing
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Speaker 1: an influx of negative comments and any of us know
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Speaker 1: how that damaging that can be to somebody's mental health
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Speaker 1: who already has shown signs personally on their accounts that
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Speaker 1: they are really struggling. So, I mean, we talked about
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Speaker 1: this yesterday on the show, but she's been still very
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Speaker 1: active on social media, and a lot of us have
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Speaker 1: to say that we don't think that that's a smart move.
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Speaker 1: And you're in a place tailor where you can pass
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Speaker 1: the phone off to somebody else. It's not doing you
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Speaker 1: any favors to be on your phone. And if Dakota's
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Speaker 1: on his phone, I'd say the same thing. Again, we
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Speaker 1: don't condone anything that's happening volatile between them at all.
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Speaker 1: It's just get off your phones, that's all we're saying.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, focus on the things that need to be
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Speaker 2: focused on.
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Speaker 3: I mean there but for the grace of God.
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Speaker 2: Right, It's like, you never know what it's like to
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Speaker 2: live in someone else's shoes and to go through what
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Speaker 2: they go through. And I I really do try to
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Speaker 2: hold back my judgment on things, but man, when the
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Speaker 2: kids are involved, it's like, come on, you guys, Like
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Speaker 2: at this point, you know, it's it's almost like in
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Speaker 2: my mind and I know I'm probably gonna grief for this,
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Speaker 2: but in my mind, I think, whatever Dakota is trying
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Speaker 2: to do, he's done it, and now it's just piling
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Speaker 2: on and it's it's almost like, Okay, there's enough out there.
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Speaker 2: Let's just sit back and let it unfold. Whatever's going
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Speaker 2: to happen is going to happen. But at the end
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Speaker 2: of the day, it's like, this is still your child's mother,
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Speaker 2: you know, and and for.
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Speaker 1: Her then you're going to be tied to for the
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Speaker 1: rest of the rest of your life.
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Speaker 2: And for her, this is still your child's father. And
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Speaker 2: it's like, you know, so it's like, get out of
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Speaker 2: your own head space. Not that they haven't, but it's like, think,
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Speaker 2: put your literally put your child first, like for one
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Speaker 2: minute and be like, Okay, you know what, I'm turning
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Speaker 2: off social media.
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Speaker 3: I'm getting out of this. I'm like, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I think I'm trying to think what I would do
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Speaker 2: in these situations, but it's just so far removed from
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Speaker 2: my personal life that I don't know how I would
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Speaker 2: handle it.
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Speaker 3: But I gotta believe I would pump the brakes on
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Speaker 3: a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 1: But I think that's a good point, Bob. It's so
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Speaker 1: out of all of our personal lives. Anybody listening to podcasts,
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Speaker 1: anybody that's even maybe had a stint on the show
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Speaker 1: in the past, we are talking about another level that
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Speaker 1: has probably not been reached in previous seasons. We are
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Speaker 1: talking about This is in the headlines on major publications
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Speaker 1: every single.
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Speaker 3: Day, everywhere. This is Yeah, this is.
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Speaker 1: One of the top stories in the country right now.
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Speaker 1: And I hate to even say that because there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of other really important things happening.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you guys have to understand that this is
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Speaker 1: a level of media scrutiny that nobody listening or that
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Speaker 1: has been on this show can relate to, maybe other
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Speaker 1: than Comparrison.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, when he was going through his thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's the level that we're talking about,
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Speaker 1: like this is very, very large, and so none of
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Speaker 1: us we can all sit back and say what we
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Speaker 1: would do or what we would not do, But none
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Speaker 1: of us have been in this situation. No, never, and
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Speaker 1: we never will, and so we don't know what's going on.
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Speaker 1: But I really do hope that you know she has
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Speaker 1: taken time in the past to prioritize her mental health
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Speaker 1: and take breaks and step away here and there. I
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Speaker 1: think she needs something more intensive. I think that whatever
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Speaker 1: she's done in the past has given her some of
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Speaker 1: the tools, but she needs to really just step away
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Speaker 1: for a second. Yeah, I think that you know, it's
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Speaker 1: not admitting defeat by stepping away and prioritizing it's act. Actually,
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Speaker 1: that's the best way probably that you can be the
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Speaker 1: best mom and show up for you is right once
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Speaker 1: you show up for yourself. So and Dakota, I hope
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Speaker 1: you get help too. You've clearly endured stuff. We've seen
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Speaker 1: the footage. We understand that, and we know that, and
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Speaker 1: I think you need help as well. You need help
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Speaker 1: on how to you know, co parent and deal with
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Speaker 1: somebody that has done that to you physically, and how
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Speaker 1: to have a relationship with that person, how to raise
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Speaker 1: a co parent with that person. So you need help
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Speaker 1: as well, because what we saw in that video footage
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Speaker 1: was you being a victim of domestic violence and that's
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Speaker 1: not okay, and you deserve to have somebody help you
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Speaker 1: and work on your mental health to get through that
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Speaker 1: situation as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, it's really well put.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think at the end of the day,
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Speaker 2: it's one of those things where you look at it
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Speaker 2: and it's just sort of like, my God, Like whether
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Speaker 2: what are other two children?
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Speaker 3: Like, does anyone know what's going on with the other
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Speaker 3: two kids? Are they with her? Are they with their father?
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Speaker 1: I believe they're with her father. We did see a
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Speaker 1: report about her father going to the Utah courthouse weirdly
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Speaker 1: enough or not weirdly who knows?
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Speaker 3: Wait, so the children are with her ex husband? Yeah, okay, so.
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Speaker 1: Her ex husband weirdly enough or maybe was a planed thing.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Her ex husband showed up at the
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Speaker 1: courthouse the same day that Dakota showed up at the
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Speaker 1: courthouse to file his motion for a restraining order and
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Speaker 1: for temporary custody, and the paparazzi caught them like intercepting
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Speaker 1: like talking to each other at the courthouse both met boy.
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Speaker 1: So I think, you know, as much as we've come
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Speaker 1: to see in this last week that there's a new
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Speaker 1: headline every couple of hours every day or something, I
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Speaker 1: don't think that this story is going away anytime soon.
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Speaker 1: I think what will make things go away is when you,
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Speaker 1: like I said, step away out of spotlight and you're
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Speaker 1: off working on yourself. There's not a whole lot people
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Speaker 1: can say and do when you're not engaging and you're
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Speaker 1: not helping to fan the flames. So that's why I
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Speaker 1: think it's also a smart move to go away, because
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Speaker 1: this just keeps. It's like it's it's just pouring gasoline
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Speaker 1: on this fire. You know, with ABC choosing Bob not
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Speaker 1: to use words like cancelation when they made the announcement,
17:42
Speaker 1: a lot of people are speculating on the internet that
17:45
Speaker 1: we're still going to see this season at some point.
17:48
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Do you think we'll
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Speaker 1: ever see this season?
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Speaker 2: I thought, like everyone else, quite frankly, I thought, you
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Speaker 2: know what, they're going to take a step back, They're
17:57
Speaker 2: going to let this thing die down, and then somehow,
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Speaker 2: some way they're going to do it but you know,
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Speaker 2: the more stuff that comes out, I think, I think
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Speaker 2: the more and more public sentiment is against that, right.
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Speaker 2: I think one of the things that you know, I've
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Speaker 2: been reading and I can only imagine how it feels
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Speaker 2: to read this, But you know, they're like click, quit
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Speaker 2: giving these people a platform, you know, is what people
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Speaker 2: are saying. And and you know, I get it, right,
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Speaker 2: It's like, well, you know, if you don't put a
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Speaker 2: TV show on, then with them on it, then they're
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Speaker 2: not famous anymore, right, or whatever it might be.
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Speaker 3: And so I understand the feeling behind that.
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Speaker 2: You know. Unfortunately, uh, television is big business, as we
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Speaker 2: both know, and I think if there were some type
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Speaker 2: of medium for them to put that out and recoup
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Speaker 2: some of their losses, they probably would. I just don't
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Speaker 2: know what the time, I don't know what the timing
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Speaker 2: of that would be. But but who knows. Maybe maybe
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Speaker 2: it's such a negative sentiment around it that they're realizing
18:54
Speaker 2: they need to cut their losses and be like, you
18:55
Speaker 2: know what, we try to deviate from what the show's
18:58
Speaker 2: always been about, and you know, we thought we would
19:01
Speaker 2: do something a little bit different. We realized that that's
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Speaker 2: not the recipe for our fans and for our for
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Speaker 2: our franchise, and you know, we're going to go back
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Speaker 2: to basics or something.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how they spin this.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of crisis counselors and Crisliss crisis,
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Speaker 2: you know, public relations people out there that are already
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Speaker 2: working on the different spins that we'll be hearing over
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Speaker 2: the next weeks and months.
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Speaker 3: But I don't know. I mean, honestly, would I watch it?
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Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, I.
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Speaker 2: Don't know that I was going to watch it previous
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Speaker 2: to a lot of this, And that's just me being
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Speaker 2: really honest. I liked the idea of I've always liked
19:40
Speaker 2: the idea. Maybe it was because, you know, Tristan I
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Speaker 2: kind of started this whole thing of being a rehash
19:46
Speaker 2: that you know, the public likes and embraces and then
19:50
Speaker 2: you get a.
19:50
Speaker 3: Chance to find love yourself and does it work? Does
19:53
Speaker 3: it not work? Whatever?
19:55
Speaker 2: But I think, you know, having someone who's already established
19:58
Speaker 2: notoriety and fame another avenue and bringing them into this,
20:04
Speaker 2: you know, I think I think we dance with the
20:06
Speaker 2: devil a little bit, and when now we're getting burned, right,
20:08
Speaker 2: It's like, if you go back to the basics of
20:11
Speaker 2: what got this franchise to where it is, it was
20:13
Speaker 2: always building up and lifting up from within, you know.
20:17
Speaker 3: And so I mean, we see each.
20:19
Speaker 2: Other at events, we share these experiences that you know,
20:23
Speaker 2: regardless of where you were in the ratings or where
20:26
Speaker 2: you were on your season, or even how long ago
20:28
Speaker 2: it was or how current it was, we all kind
20:31
Speaker 2: of had this common thread that was really kind of
20:32
Speaker 2: a nice thing that we see at a lot of
20:34
Speaker 2: things that we do.
20:35
Speaker 3: And and now it's different. It's just different now. And
20:39
Speaker 3: can you put the.
20:39
Speaker 2: Genie back in the bottle? I don't know, you know,
20:41
Speaker 2: but we'll find out, I guess.
20:44
Speaker 1: But there's no denying that the show has been on
20:46
Speaker 1: a decline and that experience wasn't tuning in for what
20:52
Speaker 1: the show was known for because had seasons where people
20:55
Speaker 1: were finding love Joey, Kadie and Zach, you know what
20:59
Speaker 1: I mean, And yet not in its heyday, and unfortunately,
21:06
Speaker 1: or fortunately, however you want to look at it, Mormon
21:09
Speaker 1: Wives does numbers that Bachelor will not be able to
21:15
Speaker 1: hit ever in like you know, and so it is
21:20
Speaker 1: I understand why they did it. I think that they
21:24
Speaker 1: underestimated who their talent was because I think that when
21:30
Speaker 1: you come from within the Bachelor bubble, it's a very
21:34
Speaker 1: controlled universe where you're able to really control who is
21:40
Speaker 1: in that position, and most of the time that person
21:44
Speaker 1: doesn't have the legs until after they've had their experience
21:48
Speaker 1: on the show. You brought somebody in. And I'll say
21:52
Speaker 1: it again, I've said it before. She didn't need the show.
21:56
Speaker 1: No show needed her, and that's for the imbalance of
22:00
Speaker 1: power started. And I would bet money that somebody wasn't
22:07
Speaker 1: keeping her on a tight leash after filming was done.
22:12
Speaker 1: And I guarantee you that they keep them on a
22:14
Speaker 1: tight leash when they come from within the world.
22:18
Speaker 3: They probably felt like they couldn't keep her on a
22:20
Speaker 3: lease because she's her own.
22:21
Speaker 1: Thing, right, But there's ways I think that you can.
22:25
Speaker 1: Right Like, I don't know the ins and outs. I
22:27
Speaker 1: don't work on that show. I don't work on her
22:29
Speaker 1: other show. But you can have talent people producers assigned
22:35
Speaker 1: to somebody who's constantly calling them, who's then giving those
22:39
Speaker 1: updates to executives daily, who having her meet with a
22:45
Speaker 1: therapist or a psychologist from the show on a regular basis. Having,
22:52
Speaker 1: you know, encouraging her to implement hiring an assistant, or saying, hey,
22:59
Speaker 1: how's the situation going with your your co parenting situation. Oh,
23:02
Speaker 1: it sounds like it's going rough. How can we as
23:05
Speaker 1: a company step in to help you? Because you're our
23:09
Speaker 1: talent and we want you to feel like you are
23:11
Speaker 1: being you know, watched over. We want you and your
23:14
Speaker 1: best mental health when we start to send you out
23:16
Speaker 1: to do press for this big season. How can we
23:19
Speaker 1: help you? Right? Because we know that they helped her
23:23
Speaker 1: when it came to childcare and it came to visiting
23:26
Speaker 1: her kids while filming. This is the stuff that I
23:29
Speaker 1: mean when people are like, well can they do that?
23:31
Speaker 1: Can't be? Yeah, they can't. They do have the power
23:33
Speaker 1: to do that kind of stuff. They were able to
23:35
Speaker 1: do it when she was filming. You need to continue
23:39
Speaker 1: that kind of care with your talent in the interim
23:42
Speaker 1: before a show starts to air. And it costs money
23:46
Speaker 1: and it takes time and it takes energy. But they
23:49
Speaker 1: could have done that, and I'm going to bet that
23:51
Speaker 1: they didn't.
23:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, just to get her to the finish line, right, Like,
23:54
Speaker 3: if nothing.
23:55
Speaker 1: Else, Yeah, to everybody to the finish line. It gets
23:58
Speaker 1: everybody to the finish line right again, It's like, could
24:02
Speaker 1: could somebody be with her twenty four to seven? No,
24:05
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but it sounds like she was
24:11
Speaker 1: having some sort of volatile relationship with her ex baby daddy,
24:16
Speaker 1: and it seems to be that everybody knows it, and
24:22
Speaker 1: the other show capitalizes on that for sure, and nobody really,
24:28
Speaker 1: I think, did their due diligence into how that is
24:31
Speaker 1: it between them? Oh, somebody's got footage. Somebody's got a
24:36
Speaker 1: lot of footage, Like I feel like we're seeing and
24:41
Speaker 1: you guys can all go find the NBC article that
24:43
Speaker 1: came out last week that has certain quotes from a
24:46
Speaker 1: meeting that was recorded with Mormon Wives cast members. Those
24:51
Speaker 1: quotes are not good and that you know, not enough
24:57
Speaker 1: was done, and people listening to this might be like, Oh,
25:00
Speaker 1: she's violin and why should we help her? And why
25:03
Speaker 1: should we help I'm not talking about helping her. I'm
25:06
Speaker 1: talking about how do you get a show to see
25:10
Speaker 1: the light of day? You protect your product, and she's
25:14
Speaker 1: part of that brand.
25:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder how much I wonder I was gonna say,
25:19
Speaker 2: I wonder how much she got paid to be the
25:22
Speaker 2: Bachelorette because we obviously know having her having the background
25:26
Speaker 2: that she had, she didn't do it for free.
25:28
Speaker 3: That's for sure.
25:29
Speaker 1: She didn't do it for free. And I can bet
25:31
Speaker 1: that she didn't get the standard pay range at a
25:36
Speaker 1: typical person to ask, because what happens is with a
25:41
Speaker 1: typical contestant, they do not have the kind of following
25:46
Speaker 1: and they definitely don't have the kind of following today
25:49
Speaker 1: even post show that of the ones she has a day, well,
25:53
Speaker 1: the contestants from the Heyday, like we're talking abouteen twenty
25:57
Speaker 1: sixteen cast members, those cast members have huge followings, but
26:00
Speaker 1: they only gained them after being on the show. She
26:03
Speaker 1: actually has like five times that or something. Again, this
26:08
Speaker 1: goes back to the show needed her. She didn't need
26:11
Speaker 1: the show, because that's built in marketing for them when
26:15
Speaker 1: she uses her platforms to promote the show. So that's
26:20
Speaker 1: advertising for them, guys. That is like that's her brand,
26:24
Speaker 1: that's her brand reaching. So that is part of her payment,
26:29
Speaker 1: is that when she signs that contract is yes, she's
26:33
Speaker 1: getting paid to shoot the show, but she's also getting
26:35
Speaker 1: paid to go out there and do media for the show.
26:37
Speaker 1: She's paid to be posting for the show when clip
26:40
Speaker 1: stuff would go out like that's all part of it,
26:44
Speaker 1: and they would have gotten stuff back from that that
26:48
Speaker 1: they can't get from a typical contestant. And then also
26:51
Speaker 1: probably the brand integrations. I'm sure brands that already worked
26:54
Speaker 1: with her, either on her other show or work with
26:56
Speaker 1: her outside of the show, were like, Oh, you're going
26:59
Speaker 1: to be the Bachelorette. We want to take this energy
27:04
Speaker 1: drink that you drink up a notch, and we want
27:06
Speaker 1: to go up a notch, and we want to now
27:08
Speaker 1: do an integration on the show because it gets Sennebon.
27:11
Speaker 2: Senebon was doing a cross marketing campaign between the two shows, right,
27:15
Speaker 2: and they were the first ones to pull out, which
27:17
Speaker 2: is kind of what started this whole thing. I mean,
27:19
Speaker 2: you know, at the end of the day, if it
27:21
Speaker 2: part of me, also in the jaded part of me,
27:24
Speaker 2: thinks that the advertiser's not been pulling out or threatening.
27:26
Speaker 3: To pull out, the show probably would have still aired.
27:29
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I feel like.
27:33
Speaker 1: We still would have seen a hiatus, We still would
27:36
Speaker 1: have seen it go on hold for a second. If
27:39
Speaker 1: advertisers didn't pull out, I think we still would have
27:42
Speaker 1: seen a pull We're going to hold for a second
27:46
Speaker 1: while we see what's happening, because the internet outrage from
27:50
Speaker 1: that video, again not something they anticipated, just went so crazy.
28:06
Speaker 1: So back to this article, it says when Dakota first called,
28:10
Speaker 1: the West Jordan spokesman said he told officials that he
28:14
Speaker 1: was referred to the West Jordan Police Department by the
28:17
Speaker 1: Draper Police Department because of the jurisdiction of the twenty
28:20
Speaker 1: twenty four incident. Draper Police told NBC News that a separate,
28:25
Speaker 1: open domestic violence investigation into Taylor and Dakota, with allegations
28:29
Speaker 1: on both sides, was called in on February twenty fourth
28:32
Speaker 1: and February twenty fifth. That's last month's incident that we're
28:36
Speaker 1: talking about. That police department declined to share further details.
28:41
Speaker 1: Salt Lake County District Attorney Sam Gill said in a
28:45
Speaker 1: statement Tuesday that his office requested all the investigative material
28:50
Speaker 1: to screen the most recent allegations for charges, and confirmed
28:53
Speaker 1: that his office was looking into a case submitted by
28:57
Speaker 1: Draper Police. Gill added in the statement, and we made
29:00
Speaker 1: the request because of the potential that if charges are filed,
29:04
Speaker 1: they could be enhanced to a domestic violence offence court
29:09
Speaker 1: records indicate that Taylor pleaded guilty to an aggravated assault
29:13
Speaker 1: charge in August twenty twenty three that stemmed from a
29:16
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three domestic violence incident. That's the one we
29:19
Speaker 1: saw the video of. For other charges in that case,
29:22
Speaker 1: including assault, criminal mischief, and domestic violence in the presence
29:26
Speaker 1: of a child, were dismissed with prejudice, the record shows.
29:30
Speaker 1: So that was that plea deal that I talked about. Now,
29:33
Speaker 1: obviously she's on probation for that. So if this situation
29:37
Speaker 1: from last month, or this twenty twenty four situation a light,
29:42
Speaker 1: that could be a violation of her probation, which could
29:44
Speaker 1: make those charges from the twenty twenty three incident much larger.
29:49
Speaker 1: So obviously there's a lot to process here. And like
29:52
Speaker 1: I said, we're going to keep covering this on the show.
29:54
Speaker 1: But any final thoughts about the franchise or where you
29:58
Speaker 1: think it goes from here?
30:00
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, more so thoughts about about these two
30:03
Speaker 2: and their children, Like I just you know, like I said,
30:07
Speaker 2: there but for the grace of God. Right, So it's like,
30:08
Speaker 2: you know, you watch people go through this stuff and
30:10
Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god, this is appalling and then,
30:13
Speaker 2: but you don't know what.
30:13
Speaker 3: Got in there. You don't know, you know, you don't
30:16
Speaker 3: know anything.
30:17
Speaker 2: And so at the end of the day, I just
30:19
Speaker 2: I feel for the kids, and I feel for everybody involved,
30:22
Speaker 2: and I do. I mean, I don't know Taylor, Frankie, Paul,
30:25
Speaker 2: but I feel for her in that, you know, the
30:28
Speaker 2: just the fact that she's going through these highs and
30:31
Speaker 2: lows with a family, and with her family watching it
30:35
Speaker 2: all and her kids hearing it all, and it's just brutal,
30:38
Speaker 2: you know, And so I just, man, I just I
30:40
Speaker 2: hope they I hope they all get to somewhere that
30:43
Speaker 2: they can live together and cohabitate some space, because they're
30:49
Speaker 2: going to have to do that with having children together.
30:51
Speaker 1: And absolutely, and I think you know, people love a
30:58
Speaker 1: comeback story. Yeah, they love a takedown story even more.
31:03
Speaker 1: And it's going to be rough here for a little bit.
31:06
Speaker 1: But like I said, we're going to be bringing you
31:08
Speaker 1: guys all the news on this because it is evolving
31:11
Speaker 1: all the time. And so thanks Bob for jumping on.
31:15
Speaker 3: Thank you.
31:16
Speaker 2: I hope we get some other news to talk about,
31:18
Speaker 2: some other stuff to talk about that, you know, maybe
31:20
Speaker 2: some good news, like maybe all right, they were able
31:23
Speaker 2: to work things out and now they're hunky dory, but
31:25
Speaker 2: we're still not going to watch on TV for a
31:27
Speaker 2: while or something like that. That just shows that there's
31:30
Speaker 2: progress going in a different direction than down the toilet,
31:33
Speaker 2: because that's all it feels like right now.
31:35
Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, it's a cloud even for us just reporting
31:39
Speaker 1: on it, all this negative stuff, but you know, for
31:43
Speaker 1: sure we're hoping to see some good news come out
31:45
Speaker 1: of this as well.
31:46
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Well, it was a pleasure talking with you.
31:51
Speaker 1: Likewise, thanks Bob, Lovely Day.
31:53
Speaker 3: You're welcome.