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TWR Saturday | Does Gamergate Still Matter? · The Whitfield Report

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  Now broadcasting from the next-gen conservative studio in
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  Sunny South Florida, bringing you the latest in politics
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  current events and pop culture. This is he's the Whitfield
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  Report with Sam Whitfield. Well, good evening, folks, and
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  welcome to the show. Unfortunately, I had to take a
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  pic scout out back behind the Woodshed us.
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  We can, you know, it was, it was time to the old co-host.
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  It's a to pasture. People are going to believe you
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  be careful with that. you know, well, yeah, this this is Apex
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  has himself from the dead as true, but ya know You know, in
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  all honesty I think probably well to be honest I fell asleep
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  because after after dinner because we had we had turkey
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  which is never a good idea and I set my alarm on my phone but I
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  forgot it was on silent. So by the time I did see it it
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  was like it was 10 15. So, but luckily, a cab and I are
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  here, I'm hoping Apex will pop in, to the chat.
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  But, uh, anyway, act. But how are you?
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  And how's your week been? I am.
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  Okay. My week has been, um, pretty
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  uneventful. Probably more uneventful than it
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  should be. Haven't done too much.
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  Watch some stuff just kind of chilled out, listen to music
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  that little bit of work here and there.
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  And played. Some games, has his per usual.
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  Cool, cool. Yeah and my week has been pretty
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  uneventful other than just some family drama but you know
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  there's nothing you can really do about that.
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  Yeah, shit happens. So Yeah, it is what it is and
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  you know, we're moving forward. So I'm always happy to talk to
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  you and of course even if I'll people are annoying at least I
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  have my internet friends and exactly.
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  Exactly anyway, so I don't know. Do we want to do video game news
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  first or I guess the reason I ask is because tonight's Is
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  going to be gamergate and whether or not it's still
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  relevant and the reason go ahead.
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  I think, I think Acoma might know why, but so mr.
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  Matt occur. And I had no idea that this was
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  even happening, but apparently went on a podcast.
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  I think earlier this week called the Clifton Duncan podcast which
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  a lot of my Normie friends actually son.
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  This was actually their introduction to mr.
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  Medic her. And so they found out about
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  gamergate and I actually found out more about gamergate.
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  Like I've had this kind of, you know, thing for the last couple
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  years of, you know, ever since I discovered Ralph and this round
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  one round in and I kinda like, you know, I've heard gamergate
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  but what it, you know, what is and, you know, I think Apex try
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  to do a pretty good job of explaining it to me.
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  You know, a lot of people did to be honest but I think Jim.
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  When he went on the string related did a good job of
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  explaining it to me. So in a lot of my, you know, I
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  all friends normally friends enjoyed it too.
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  So the one question that I got was, well, Sam.
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  Do you think gamergate is still relevant and, you know, 2022 and
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  I would say, I would say somewhat, but this is one of
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  those things where I'm like, I feel like it's one of those
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  questions that can't be answered by just one person because there
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  is no definite answer. So I thought I'd, you know, ask
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  you an apex, maybe, you know, people in chat, who are more
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  familiar with this, what your thoughts are but you know, since
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  it does kind of video games somewhat Thought I would, you
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  know, I thought I would kind of be up in 31 if you do games
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  first or you know say though we can.
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  We can wait to see if or when Apex kind of kind of wobbles on
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  it and check on strolls on in because I want to hear his takes
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  on the gaming news, I think that'd be kind of fun so we can
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  kind of just yeah he's on in the gamergate and roll around to I
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  guess games journalism, in the truest sense of the word.
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  Yeah, for me. Yeah, which you know, to me
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  starting a well, first off, I think.
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  I think, you know, this interview was really good.
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  Usually we see you, do we see Medicare and more like a
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  comedic, you know, shitposting type of way, which is great, but
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  it's also great to see Jim. Give like a straightforward, you
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  know, interview type of interview to and You know, so I
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  thought that was interesting. and then, Just you know, how the
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  whole thing started and how it became a scandal, like it.
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  That's that's about the kind of always amazes me is how video
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  games of all thing and video game games.
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  Journalism started this whole political you know, Trend
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  change. Its kind of, you know, it's kind
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  of surreal almost Well, I'm always there.
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  It's, it is surreal when you look at it in a small frame of
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  mine, also, I think the volume might be low for chat.
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  I have you Max up on through on my browser.
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  It's a little quiet. So I want to just double-check
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  that ask for gamer guy did see the gym interview?
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  I thought it was thought that that episode was great.
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  The host that podcast is very good at what he does.
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  He's very well-spoken, very well.
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  Articulated and brings up a lot of interesting points and a
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  different Viewpoint of where he came in on the subject.
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  As for gamer cake, kind of being this thing, I think it was sort
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  of I think it was because it was video games that It was kind of
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  what made things upsetting because I mean even back in the
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  2010 at the turn of the 2010, you know, people were starting
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  to question more commonly media and news outlets and we began to
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  start to see. I mean, we had always seemed
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  like things that were just click bait or just sensationalize for
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  the sake of it. But when you started seeing that
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  Narrative of at the time, Was very leftist, very Progressive
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  very sjw as some would say, right.
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  And it was in many regards, a lot of it was over the fucking
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  top. Don't get me wrong.
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  It's when it happened to video games of all things, you know,
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  when when Gamers were being called in news articles, you
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  know, you guys are toxic and you're what's wrong with, you
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  know, modern internet culture and it's just a little bunch of
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  boys and just started very much deriding and talking down to a
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  group of people for really know you sort of see it here and
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  there before gamergate. And then once gamer, get kind of
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  it's mine. brains a little fuzzy on how the start is like I know
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  kind of what kicked everything off, but You certainly saw a
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  much more concerted effort. Once there was lashing of
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  complaints about this kind of fucking bullshit journalism.
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  I think many had mentioned it in the podcast like some chicken
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  being so traumatized from telling some from some dude
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  saying he was going to rape her while playing Gears of War on
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  the Xbox 360 like completely asinine stuff.
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  And I can think of of games journalism.
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  Analysts who were who were new on sites, who just would write
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  fucking schlock and their own opinion into not their own
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  opinion, but frame it in a way that was really could be harmful
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  to somebody. And I always think of my believe
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  David ja he the guy who did Twisted Metal franchise and I
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  think God of War, he was, he was he had said something about
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  like, oh, it's a girl, you can play a game you can play with
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  your girl. You know, if maybe you let her
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  win, she'll suck your dick or so, like it was just that kind
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  of era of of jokes and humor and whatever and right, she was
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  trying to say, oh this famous Game Dev is saying you should
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  you sleazy underhand tactics to take advantage of women
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  sexually. And it was just complete
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  bullshit and he him and particularly didn't fucking care
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  for it at all. No one fucking did because it
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  was this weird kind of sensitivity and thing that was
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  not part of the gaming culture. I mean II come from old gamer
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  culture. Many fucking dude.
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  Let me let me get that fucking lie.
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  I am in no way. Special.
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  I am a fucking, every man of every man who came up in that
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  are right. But like I was I was on Xbox 360
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  during the Halo 2 days old on Xbox or I was on Xbox live
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  during the Halo 2 days 360. During the three days.
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  I, there was a reason I didn't play much multiplayer because
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  man Those were some angry children.
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  Wait, and you would hear and that wasn't just on that it was
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  on the internet. In general, it was a lot more of
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  the Wild West. So you would just you'd you.
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  I mean, if you were affected, you grew tougher, scanning your
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  Shrugged it off. And maybe that helped you in
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  your real life, too. Maybe if you're yeah, it over
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  something. Yeah, go from my perspective if
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  I could just interject because you and I kind of come from the
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  same generation of you know, Gamers were.
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  Like I remember like I even remember, you know that like
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  certain wines, like I will play, you know, I would play GoldenEye
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  64 with my friends, you know? Yeah.
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  That like multiplayer was at, you know, at a certain point
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  like multiplayer. Earth and you know, the younger
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  audience there, if there wasn't a name understand this but
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  multi-player kids used to be when you and your friends would
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  go over to someone's house on a Friday.
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  And I game play video games in the same room with each other.
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  And if you look at the other guys controller, you would get
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  punched in the gut or worse. You know, I never play with
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  those people. Think God would start beating
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  each other. with controllers or, you know, or you know, and like
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  no one got hurt but it was just, you know, Kids being kids, it
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  was a Rowdy. Yeah yeah it was it was Rowdy.
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  And then you know with You know, and then when online pie came
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  and headsets can't was you know a lot of us, a lot of us made
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  your mop. You know, your mom.
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  Your mom is me Stanley. Did shit.
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  Yeah, of course. Yeah.
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  Like it was it was, it was, it was early bands but it wasn't
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  funny. If it was funny it would have
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  been bands, but happy time it was just a speck talk.
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  Yeah, we was it was smack talk and we would say horrendous, we
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  would say her and to shit. But then at the end of the
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  night, it would it would be like, okay, my you know, see you
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  at school on Monday or something or something alike and then save
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  that. Yeah, that's if you played with
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  your friends and you weren't online, you know, right?
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  I mean, God even, even to this day, like I remember not that
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  long ago. I was my, my friends and I were
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  doing a LAN party and we were doing Halo in in me and the
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  other guy, there's only one other guy there who really was
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  able to. To contest for.
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  I mean, he was, I do Place FPS is non-stop.
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  So, of course, he's the best one in the room and he used to play
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  Halo on like a semi pro level back in the day.
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  So me going at him like we are fucking just screaming at each
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  other just calling each other. Motherfuckers is everything
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  under the sun. Like it was, it got heated and
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  afterwards we got a fucking beer and set by a fucking bonfire,
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  you know? Yeah like because yeah well I
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  mean, I can part of that, social contract When you're with
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  people. Yeah, like it either, it, you
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  either. Make sure it doesn't turn
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  actually hostile. Or you can just tell because of
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  who, you know, that, like, it's just in the fucking thing.
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  It's just in the mood. I don't normally do it.
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  He does it a lot. So it ramped up me, like, oh no
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  motherfucker, we going at it. Um, but yeah, I mean, that's,
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  that's the thing too. Is like, it was, it was the
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  couch Co-op days, because it wasn't even sometimes even
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  multiplayer. You?
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  Like, it would just be like, Okay, who can do this level of
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  Crash? Bandicoot, the fastest, or
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  something like that, right? Yeah.
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  Or or goddamn a one-on-one fighting game?
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  Like, you know, that's hiding games is when she got personal.
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  Oh yes, oh, yes. I, I certainly remember that.
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  I remember back in the day, with those fighting games, like,
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  there used to be a, there used to be a, a Rocky game that was
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  made up of the rocky franchise and it was actually for boxing
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  game. It was actually like Roy good
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  back back in the day it was actually better than fight night
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  and yeah you know and in some ways it didn't look the best but
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  he played good. It was solid.
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  Yeah, and I remember, and I remember and that was actually
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  got me into the Rocky movies actually.
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  And I remember that my friends are my friends and I just used
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  to play, you know, that for hours and just, you know, there
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  were some matches where, you know, where like, I would be him
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  or he would beat me and, like, you know, our feelings.
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  We went to talk for days, you know, just finding out on how he
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  did it got, you know, stuff like that, but one of the other
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  things, I remember and I guess this is kind of, like, one of
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  the things that, you know, coming from my perspective is I
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  kind of always feel like Gamers have been under attack.
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  Because I always remember, as a kid when Grand Theft Auto Vice
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  City came out. And you know, that game was very
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  controversial and I remember, I remember, I shit you not.
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  Not I remember, I remember my parents, like coming home from
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  like a Pete. Haines meeting and laughing
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  because I guess one of the teachers or someone like the
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  school board had like, brought up this like article but someone
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  had written about how I like Grand Theft Auto was influencing
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  the next generation of like School shooters or yeah, you
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  know, or just like, you know, there was there was that whole
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  thing of like, you know, that Games are going to make the Next
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  Generation School shooters and like, back in the day, everyone
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  in games journalism, kind of laughed it off, right as as
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  everyone should have by, you know, I guess kind of the thing
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  that fascinates me. It's like right everyone in the
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  Gaming Community pretty much everyone used to kind of like,
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  you know, laughs all this petty bullshit off and then For
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  whatever reason, once things got political, you know, as they
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  usually do, no dinner started to take themselves or at least some
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  of them start to take to take themselves more seriously and it
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  became a whole thing. Yeah.
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  And I mean, I guess, you know, it's so anyway it was it was
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  just weird because like you know, coming coming from kind of
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  the old I was kind of like, wait, people are taking this
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  shit seriously now, it was weird.
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  So I mean back then, like you, you would have ones who, who
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  would it would be a cocktail of things.
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  You could never say, fully the Grand Theft Auto would make,
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  someone become a shooter because in Grand Theft Auto, I think the
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  thing they poked on. And and to this day I went to go
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  look up the name of one fucking lawyer who ran against rock
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  star, right. Jack Something I think.
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  But I was looking for the guy bt8 GTA ban gai politician.
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  And there are still articles from last year about us
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  politicians trying to get violent video games band.
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  It's still something we're dealing with and I didn't even
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  know we're still dealing with because 2022.
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  But yeah, the thing is, is like, it was free form, but like you
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  weren't, there was kind of, like, yeah, there was a rampage
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  missions. Three in this and that, but you
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  weren't playing a psychopathic murderer.
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  Her say in three you were playing Claude, he was kind of
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  silent, but he would do things for this that and there were
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  things that were changed because of 9/11 and dada.
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  But certainly, once by Vice City, you had, this was a, he
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  wasn't a mass murder. He was a he was a drug Runner,
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  you know? Yeah, yeah.
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  It was, I mean, GTA Vice City is, I mean, it's a sad High,
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  Miami Vice, it's a satire I have of the 80s Scarface.
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  Yeah. All the way, it's a satire of
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  the 1980s, which is anyone, who knows me nervous as far as Pop
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  Culture goes. That is my favorite decade and
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  in pop culture, and Apex of gawking.
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  For it, but I damn motherfucker. The neon drenching the fucking
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  pasta laughs. Fuck, no.
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  I know the 80s wasn't all just Miami, but in my brain, all the
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  80s was across the world was just Miami.
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  And that's a great world. I think.
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  Well, we well yeah. Hey Well, we also we also had to
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  think outside of the even there, they teased but like
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  retrospectively and shit. Neither neither was I but like
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  that I always go. You know, there's always that
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  question if you could travel back to any you know, period in
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  time. You know, when would you travel
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  and I always go without hesitation the 80s.
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  I mean, even just to see some of, you know, the bands that I
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  love. And oh yeah, yeah, that alone
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  would have been, you know, fantastic.
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  But yeah. So, but under the topic, you
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  know, so it the thing is, is like, okay GTA is, is is
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  sandbox. So you can do Whatever.
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  And I think it's like there were games, like, don't think there
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  was black and white, but there were certainly games where you
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  could cause death and Mayhem like Command and Conquer and
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  things like that. And and Driver three was
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  actually a game. That was GTA before GTA was GTA3
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  driver, didn't hit any controversy.
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  I think it was a lot more simple because it was PS1.
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  But what it is it also just it that kind of shit ties into just
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  us politics in general, as well. Yeah.
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  And so it's absurd to say that it creates it can facilitate but
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  there's more foundational problems of what that does and I
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  mean that's it's that was a thing too.
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  Is that it was revolutionary at the time because nobody had
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  there was no other game like that.
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  Right. So it was it was a new hotness.
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  It blew up, it was popular with the kids even though it was for
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  adults, which kind of dismisses a lot of any blame on the
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  artwork of the game and kind of puts blame on the parents for
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  buying that for their children. But you know, they don't like
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  to. That doesn't fit the narrative
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  rights, not blame the parents and bad parenting and letting
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  them play a mature adult video games like here, I'll tell you a
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  perfect fucking story, right? It was Christmas of like 2003, I
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  think or 2002 and I Ad. And I had wanted a PlayStation
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  2, right? They've been a little bit.
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  And I had gotten Kingdom Hearts first.
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  I was like oh cool. I do have a Game Stop
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  PlayStation 2 for but that's cool.
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  Okay. And then I got the PlayStation 2
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  and then there was another time I got, it was Kingdom Hearts and
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  guess what? The other game was Grand Theft
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  Auto Grand Theft Auto 3. So I play Kingdom Hearts first
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  because that's what I really wanted.
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  And then I went to go play GTA 3 now, my fucking child.
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  PlayStation brain thought Oh man, I can hop on the cars and
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  ride them around the city. I was jumping on the roof, I
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  didn't know you could drive the cars, I wasn't paying attention.
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  So I was just riding around on cars and running around like
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  kind of punching people, and running away and jumping on
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  other cars, exploring. And then, like the day or two,
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  after my dad takes it away. I was like, why is like there's
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  that stuff that you don't need to see?
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  Because he was worried I was going to see prostitutes and and
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  and drug usage. Meanwhile my is like huh.
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  I'm on top of the car and it's moving around.
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  I'm a falling. That's cool.
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  Yeah I wasn't. I wasn't like, give me a
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  fucking. Give me a gun.
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  I want to shoot all these people at school.
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  I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
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  My friends and I used to just for just for grins like we would
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  always like flying the helicopter and just like and
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  just you know mess around with like the radio stations and that
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  was, that was like, all we used to always to do at first.
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  I mean, And then, you know, like we would, we would, we would
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  like kill people just because like, the animations were goofy
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  to. It was.
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  Yeah, it was like, it wasn't like we were actually homicidal
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  anything. It was just, you know, but they
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  got the think, I fear all you GTA games is.
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  I mean, even now somewhat, especially back then like they
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  were, you know, they were cartoonish on.
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  They were very they were, they weren't like, they didn't Like
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  real humans, they felt like computer game people.
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  That's what your kind of got that right.
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  Yeah, yeah, right. They essentially looked like,
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  again, going back to an 80s reference.
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  If you've ever seen the money for nothing music video where
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  where, you know everyone looks W blocky that was yeah I know what
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  everyone will look looked like in the air and that might have
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  been because of graphics and you know limitations but that might
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  have lost been done on purpose. Somewhat you know like I always
• 25:05
  remember one game. Like was huge that I used my all
• 25:10
  the time as a kid was Spider-Man.
• 25:13
  You know, PS, oh, yes. Fighting into for the PS2.
• 25:18
  Yeah. And I remember like, there was a
• 25:21
  way that you could take thugs, you know, up on top of buildings
• 25:25
  like from the ground ground, and I used to just like rock them
• 25:29
  from like 40 stores or something.
• 25:32
  Yeah. Yeah. you know, just because
• 25:36
  just because you could and, you know, it was, it was just stuff
• 25:39
  like Like that and you know now sandbox games are diamond.
• 25:47
  Are dime a dozen? Yeah, I guess the only thing I
• 25:51
  can kind that I can kind of remember from gamergate was
• 25:57
  although that, you know, this had happened a few years, after
• 25:59
  the start of gamergate, I remember like one of the big
• 26:03
  five, you know, one of the big like feminist outrageous is in
• 26:07
  Red Dead Redemption, which or read the drill.
• 26:10
  Engine 2, which is one my favorite game so that's why I'm
• 26:14
  referencing it but there's a part where I think as Arthur
• 26:22
  urine like you're in want your like in the New Orleans hype
• 26:25
  City and there's a there's like there's a woman suffered Marge
• 26:32
  and I guess someone got in trouble because he made a video.
• 26:36
  We're basically like he captured and hogtied You know, the the
• 26:43
  woman suffrage later and then like fed her to the owl.
• 26:47
  I remember that was that was fucking hilarious.
• 26:50
  I remember seeing that fucking yeah.
• 26:55
  Yeah, they're always really hot and like that.
• 27:11
  And you realize you can do it in a video game.
• 27:14
  Yeah. Which which, which Speaking of
• 27:17
  I, I may or may not have I may or not play that game on the reg
• 27:23
  are still and I may or may not have hogtied.
• 27:26
  A Serna individual who reminds me of a certain uh you know,
• 27:30
  hard hog. And I've had Arthur feed him
• 27:39
  too. The the, I the I get the
• 27:46
  Alligators or now. I think I actually I'll have to
• 27:50
  check my gameplay footage. I think I actually said him to
• 27:54
  the pigs in the pig in. Well, the pigs eat the bodies to
• 27:58
  oh, oh yeah. Oh yeah.
• 28:01
  Oh man, it's been a minute since I played.
• 28:04
  I didn't know that shit. Yeah, I mean yeah Red Dead
• 28:08
  Redemption to still holds up. I it's a fantastic open world
• 28:14
  game and in the just the amount of stuff you can do in the
• 28:17
  creative ways you can do it. Yeah.
• 28:19
  A large is that but I actually remember this one of the
• 28:22
  Counterpoint are articles to because I mean the thing with
• 28:27
  the feminist getting beat up I do remember that like that and
• 28:30
  made headline news. Yeah.
• 28:33
  And 10. And then I forget exactly who it
• 28:38
  is. I and I hope they don't you know
• 28:40
  get mad at me on Twitter whatever but I I do remember
• 28:43
  someone wrote like a counter point of like really you know
• 28:48
  Red Dead has like one of the best stories ever and video
• 28:52
  games. You know one of the best you
• 28:55
  know, you can do so much and you're complaining about this.
• 28:58
  One thing and making a big dog wasn't even required by the
• 29:03
  game. It's somebody died, right?
• 29:05
  Yeah. No.
• 29:07
  I it's it's completely asinine. Like, so the one.
• 29:14
  Now, the one thing that people have continuously made claims of
• 29:19
  and I don't really understand, I still don't understand where
• 29:22
  this claim comes from, but that without gamergate, we wouldn't
• 29:27
  have had trunk. And Mi thing is I mean, I guess
• 29:33
  I get to a certain extent that like You know, Trump running as
• 29:38
  president was initially a 4chan ship house to actually turn into
• 29:42
  reality. I think what do you mean him
• 29:45
  winning or him? Running him.
• 29:47
  Him him running and winning. I guess winning.
• 29:51
  Yes, he's been running. He's or been wanting to run
• 29:54
  since like the turn of the century, hasn't he?
• 29:57
  Well well that's the that's the other thing too is.
• 29:59
  I think I think he had like initial.
• 30:02
  I think had he had initially run Under like all these like, you
• 30:07
  know, third party, like, you know, small waves, like I'm old
• 30:11
  and I'm old enough to remember like when Eminem, you know, fake
• 30:14
  endorsed him on, you know, on TV as yeah.
• 30:20
  I remember when you know, when Bobby Lashley, you know, when
• 30:31
  Bobby Lashley, you know on his behalf and That was weird.
• 30:42
  Yeah, and that was and that was actually always my go-to.
• 30:47
  When people would say that Trump was, you know, a racist or
• 30:50
  whatever, or hated black people, I would always pull up that clip
• 30:54
  and I'm like, And I'm like, motherfucker, he had like the
• 30:59
  most badass black fighter, you know, fighter period, like yeah,
• 31:04
  representing and WWE. He couldn't, he could have had
• 31:08
  anybody else do it. And for Bobby Lashley of all
• 31:11
  fucking people that man cares about performance and results.
• 31:17
  Yeah, maybe changes some point, who knows as for the point about
• 31:21
  gamergate lead into it, I think it was I think the thing is that
• 31:27
  you saw what happened with gamergate and how much Gamers
• 31:30
  were Beatdown for practically nothing.
• 31:32
  And we're just told they were scum of the earth and this that
• 31:35
  and the other and it didn't, it was big for its region, right?
• 31:43
  Because it will the gaming World left right and Center.
• 31:47
  Yeah, but there's a lot of people in Industries, it didn't
• 31:51
  get to so I think When the same kind of strategies were being
• 31:58
  used against Trump of just saying, oh he's a racist.
• 32:03
  Anybody who likes him as a racist in their an idiot and
• 32:06
  he's not going to get the the the candidacy and this that and
• 32:11
  the other and it didn't work. Then they started to double
• 32:15
  down. And the thing is that with
• 32:17
  gamergate More or less. All the institutions are still
• 32:25
  in place. The same one that Jim talked
• 32:26
  about, right? But with Trump, It's it got to
• 32:35
  the boiling point because it wasn't just Gamers.
• 32:37
  They were talking. It was everybody.
• 32:39
  It was. And a lot of that was generally
• 32:44
  working middle class. America based on, you know,
• 32:47
  right voted for him in the Sun. The other, anybody can probably
• 32:49
  tell you that much at least. I also I'm just going to say
• 32:56
  this out right, I'll live in a blue State.
• 32:58
  I got to be kind of careful with my words and how I phrase
• 33:00
  things. So if I say I phrase things
• 33:02
  weird, that sounds no just that I did.
• 33:06
  I know it's good but I got to watch my figure out some people.
• 33:11
  Yeah, II, get that. I mean, I come from I come from
• 33:15
  Colorado. Even though I live in Florida,
• 33:17
  I'm stove I still talk to enough people from Colorado that I'm
• 33:21
  like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:23
  So I got it. Yeah, like it's you can't and
• 33:27
  that's a sucky thing that you can't always just say, shit.
• 33:30
  How you want to say towards somebody in negative work
• 33:33
  positive, or you got to use, perlier fights.
• 33:35
  But anyway, um, so the thing is that when so many people were
• 33:39
  being told all these terrible things that it there was lash
• 33:45
  back, you know. Yeah.
• 33:47
  And and the thing is to, as part of the opponent, I don't know
• 33:52
  how much it would have popped if Hillary.
• 33:54
  I wasn't talking about hateful memes or hate speech or
• 33:59
  Internet, misogyny, or whatever. If that do didn't scream Pepe,
• 34:05
  you know me. Magic might have never been
• 34:07
  fucking me, but the thing is too, is that it was, it was at a
• 34:13
  boiling point, because a lot of it started to see a lot of the
• 34:16
  net culture that I think pays attention to things, you know
• 34:20
  you can't you can see chain culture and should call this
• 34:22
  shitpost culture, and she like that.
• 34:25
  They had noticed like all of this kind of pushing this
• 34:29
  narrative driving, this being told and anybody who likes his
• 34:32
  one guy is terrible and always ready, just using these
• 34:35
  buzzwords to try and just shit on his character.
• 34:38
  No problem. People got annoyed by that.
• 34:41
  And what's more is that it? I think it helped Elevate but I
• 34:49
  think a lot of what Trump was also was just he was that break
• 34:54
  from politicians and everyone was kind of wanting in a way.
• 34:58
  Yeah, well there was that, but then like I always would you
• 35:02
  breaking from The Establishment? Yeah well and I also I always
• 35:07
  explain this to my liberal friends.
• 35:11
  Yes, I actually have some friends who are level and then
• 35:13
  like I don't I don't get it. Why?
• 35:17
  Why did you Do you know why do you vote for Trump?
• 35:21
  What was like honestly, I will, I've always said this, I don't
• 35:26
  think of him if Hillary Clinton had not been the Democrat
• 35:29
  nominee if it had been anyone else.
• 35:33
  And oh, yeah, probably, yeah. I don't think Trump would have
• 35:37
  would have one I think because here's the thing.
• 35:42
  Like like, like you said with Donald Trump.
• 35:45
  Oh, he's running for office. You know, as president, I mean,
• 35:50
  Hillary Hillary did the same thing.
• 35:52
  In fact, like One of the rumors, you know, of why?
• 36:00
  Of why she stayed with, you know, Bill after blowjob gay
• 36:03
  happened was because, you know it, I mean, the Laura kind of
• 36:11
  Go-Go's that, you know. Hey, hey Bill, you know.
• 36:16
  Oh, I'll remain mare all remain married to you.
• 36:20
  But, you know, now it's my turn to, you know, to be prepared to
• 36:25
  be president and then she got, and then she got conked, you
• 36:28
  know, Out of that position by Obama and then in a way thank
• 36:34
  God. Yeah, no, absolutely.
• 36:37
  Anyways, here's not Obama one way or the other.
• 36:42
  Yeah. So and then like I think I think
• 36:46
  2016 like even though Democrats were like really you really want
• 36:52
  to, you want to go with her again and if I think it was kind
• 36:56
  of thing of like well if And if you guys, you know, if you guys
• 37:01
  in in the Democrats, aren't going to take this seriously,
• 37:05
  then we're not going to we're not going to take it seriously
• 37:10
  and we're gonna nominate Donald Trump who was the least, yours
• 37:14
  Canada. If you want to shit show, we'll
• 37:17
  turn this into an absolute fucking.
• 37:20
  So that's what fucking happened. And I mean, and I mean, here's,
• 37:26
  here's thay, like, oh, like, oh no.
• 37:29
  Like, there were people. They were people who will now
• 37:32
  say, like, you know, my external bitch.
• 37:34
  And, you know, my love will say, oh, yeah, I always knew Trump
• 37:38
  was going to win in 2016, but I guarantee you that he and, you
• 37:44
  know, I think everyone even on our side who voted for Trump
• 37:49
  when he got elected the first time, it was kind of like a Holy
• 37:55
  shit. He actually yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 37:59
  I thought like it sits, I hope but man, I'm not going to even
• 38:05
  kind of expect it because I know not to expect good shit in my
• 38:08
  life and then it happened and I just remember sitting there and
• 38:11
  going fuck, I guess my mom was right, anybody can be president
• 38:17
  Yeah, I mean, I remember, I remember was like, I remember
• 38:23
  like, I think I've, I remember I stayed up for like, so I
• 38:28
  remember. I remember like, the day before
• 38:30
  I was, I was really depressed because like all of the
• 38:36
  prediction polls had said, how I was going to win, and there are
• 38:41
  already rumors of, like, 90 90 to 10, it was insane.
• 38:45
  Odds, like Time Magazine was Panting shit for Hillary and she
• 38:50
  was getting all cocky about it. And, you know, and then when
• 38:55
  Trump, you know, one it was like, like I was thrilled.
• 38:59
  I was also like, this is really weird right?
• 39:04
  And then, you know, so, you know, I think that happened to
• 39:12
  and then, you know, like honestly, I think that's kind of
• 39:16
  like when the Trump Coalition, at least part of it kind of
• 39:21
  started to fall apart because then you had like all these, you
• 39:26
  know, people like baked Alaska and you know, You know, Milo and
• 39:34
  I'm not, I'm not sure if like I'm not sure if Matt jarrah was
• 39:37
  a trump guy but like all no, no, no Matt.
• 39:40
  Matt Matt is very left but like all these internet people who
• 39:45
  were on the right kind of started to kind of go degenerate
• 39:50
  and you know getting kind turn on each other afterwards and now
• 39:55
  and now we're at where we're at in 2022.
• 39:57
  And yeah it's wild so oh yeah, it's it is I mean, what do you
• 40:07
  expect from a bunch of shit? Posters it puts conservative,
• 40:11
  conservative, conservative effort into like pushing me
• 40:16
  magic to get somebody elected president.
• 40:18
  Like it's you attract all kinds of different people and you
• 40:23
  definitely saw it before those years during those years, and to
• 40:28
  this day and just it's insane to see where most of them are
• 40:32
  today. Yeah.
• 40:33
  And then yeah. And, you know, now, like and now
• 40:38
  half of them are rooting for the feds and whatnot.
• 40:41
  It's like it's like genius anus. You know, said last week like
• 40:45
  everyone is holding, you know, finger guns to each other's.
• 40:48
  Jim heads over over fish and whatnot and like honestly, I
• 40:54
  think I think 2024 is going to be like another I think we're
• 41:01
  kind of at the point of no return where like elections from
• 41:04
  here on out, are you going to be a shit show if we have them at
• 41:08
  all? Yeah. but yeah, terms of like,
• 41:15
  gamergate though being the specific, I think it was I think
• 41:19
  it was just sort of that first taste of being fed up with being
• 41:23
  fed an obvious narrative from every, every media outlet and it
• 41:28
  was just being fed up with the obvious collusion.
• 41:32
  And the difference is in gamergate and you did see some
• 41:34
  things come out during the election like the project
• 41:36
  Barrett and stuff and all that. But as soon as you get to like
• 41:41
  see that taste of collusion like you you you can confirm their
• 41:46
  shady shit like it. You get upset and most people,
• 41:51
  do kind of feel helpless like they can't really make any
• 41:53
  change in any way. And then this election presented
• 41:58
  itself and I think there were those that believed in him,
• 42:02
  there were those that were shitposting with them.
• 42:04
  And I think there were those that just wanted to take a
• 42:06
  fucking game. Yeah.
• 42:08
  Well and and that's actually that kind of feeds into another
• 42:12
  point. I just thought of I think
• 42:13
  gamergate also kind of signified.
• 42:17
  A big changing the culture to it.
• 42:19
  The sense that like right video games and movies used to kind
• 42:25
  of, at least masquerade as like an escape from politics.
• 42:31
  Now, I know you now, I know that like, people argue that, like,
• 42:35
  you know, movies, I've always been like Puerto Al Gore and
• 42:38
  whatnot but like and I mean, I guess, yeah.
• 42:41
  You can kind of argue that but like a race.
• 42:44
  It is, it's a genre in general, like you're not gonna.
• 42:48
  You can look at Wars. And you can say, oh yeah, there
• 42:51
  is political because it's saying that Empires are about.
• 42:53
  Yeah, but no, you're missing. The point is just evil Bad force
• 42:57
  and they try and stop the good guys.
• 42:59
  Yeah. And yeah.
• 43:01
  And now like everything is just so like blatantly political now
• 43:05
  it and I think there's nothing wrong with stuff that is
• 43:09
  blatantly political that wants to be like Manchurian Candidate.
• 43:13
  You know. Like there are there or Full
• 43:17
  Metal Jacket there. Deftly films, that are political
• 43:21
  in nature that have something to say but they're not.
• 43:25
  So up your ass about it. And I think that's and we saw
• 43:29
  your right after at that point we started to see a lot more up
• 43:32
  here, ask kind of shit. And the worst part is not even
• 43:35
  that because if something's political, and somebody wants to
• 43:38
  make a statement, I'm cool that it's the, the, the fucking the
• 43:44
  catering to certain kinds of grass and this, and that, and
• 43:48
  the other Yeah, I mean, and that's like, I think that's why
• 43:53
  a lot of people, I mean, my stepdad, and I included like, we
• 43:58
  used to love, we used to love watching football on Sundays,
• 44:03
  just because that was like, you know, our like thing hours.
• 44:07
  Hey, you know, from shit and then like, like in a, you know,
• 44:12
  an occasional like you would have like individual players
• 44:15
  like, you know, like doing you know, Like activist causing and
• 44:21
  whatnot. Yeah, but then once it became
• 44:23
  like, you know, you will kneel, you know, during the national
• 44:27
  anthem. And if you don't like your
• 44:28
  racist, it was. Yeah, it was that whole thing,
• 44:32
  it was like, it was just like, you can't be, you can't just be
• 44:37
  like, you know what, Uncle individual like the entire, you
• 44:43
  know, game has to be politicized.
• 44:44
  Otherwise, you're racist or, you know, you're a nest, whatever.
• 44:49
  Fill in the blank. Yeah, it when it when it becomes
• 44:53
  more about the messaging rather than the actual entertainment
• 44:58
  product that it is first, And it's not like and the product
• 45:03
  doesn't, you know, it's not meant to cater to that political
• 45:09
  thought like no one gives a fuck with football.
• 45:11
  You throw the ball, you catch it, and you touch down and and
• 45:15
  color team wins and then everyone gets mad.
• 45:18
  And then other team is sad. That's it.
• 45:20
  Yeah, don't have to talk about, you know, the status of
• 45:25
  generational, wealth, going down the property Market, getting
• 45:29
  smaller, you'll have to get political This is football.
• 45:33
  Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 45:34
  Or or or if you do like like that?
• 45:38
  Like if your player and you want to say something, I understand
• 45:41
  that you've got position in power but you know, it's what
• 45:47
  when you bring it into what you're making, it can ruin the
• 45:53
  thing you're making which yeah, just make nobody care about your
• 45:57
  thing. I have a perfect example of
• 45:58
  mine, I'ma let you go first before I do it though.
• 46:01
  Well, no, I was just going to say with with, you know,
• 46:04
  finishing up with the football analogy.
• 46:06
  It's like I explained, it's like I explained to a friend, like, I
• 46:10
  don't mind that athletes, you know, in sports, have their And
• 46:17
  right, I really don't but you know say it when you're outside
• 46:22
  of the Arena, you know, and what not and when you know one your
• 46:26
  honor day, I live in people say, and people always like to make
• 46:29
  the argument when else are they going to do?
• 46:31
  And it's like motherfucker, it's 2022.
• 46:34
  People are always on. So for me to like, there are
• 46:36
  plenty there nowadays. Yeah, Yeah, they're gonna come
• 46:43
  Santa more in the past, but nowadays.
• 46:45
  Yeah, and they do it's both. They do it in their personal
• 46:49
  stuff and then they bring it into their product.
• 46:52
  Yeah, we're into the product. No, it's to roll back into
• 46:59
  games. I guess.
• 47:00
  I was a big fan of tech TV. Back in the mid.
• 47:02
  Audis, huge fan of Xbox video game review show and that they
• 47:08
  got techtv got bought out. Well originally is EDTV.
• 47:11
  Then techtv then techtv got bought out by G4, which is owned
• 47:15
  by the Comcast in the like, and I remember and this is a long
• 47:23
  form, but it's going somewhere. I remember X-Play originally, it
• 47:27
  was kind of a little left-leaning they were shitting
• 47:30
  on George Bush in here and there, but who didn't it?
• 47:32
  Was George fucking Bush. Well it was George W.
• 47:35
  Let me put it like that. It was George W.
• 47:36
  Alright I understand you know but you know it wasn't it wasn't
• 47:42
  too crazy. It wasn't like anything over the
• 47:47
  top. It was like oh the girl reviewer
• 47:49
  wanted there to be more hot guy. I think we hot girls.
• 47:52
  Why are there no more? Hot guys, you know, she'd be
• 47:54
  kind of grossed out but it's I love the hot guys like they
• 47:57
  played into her side without making it all preachy.
• 48:01
  Then after they got bought out and they moved to LA and that
• 48:07
  she tell you exactly where this story is going.
• 48:10
  Yeah, I remember them sitting there and doing a segment called
• 48:15
  outdated stereotypes or offensive stereotypes in gaming
• 48:19
  and they were talking about Latinos, right?
• 48:25
  Anybody for South America, Mexican, Spanish, all that kind
• 48:27
  of stuff, and they were talking about it, how they weren't
• 48:30
  portrayed very Well in video games and they would choose, you
• 48:36
  know, Spanish characters who are antagonist in the story.
• 48:40
  They would choose I think Louise from Resident Evil 4 and how
• 48:46
  he's all giggling, the president's teenage daughter,
• 48:50
  you know? Or they would, they brought up,
• 48:54
  I shit you not the the, the Mexican gang banger.
• 49:02
  Dudes. The Mexican gangs from San
• 49:04
  Andreas as bad representation of Mexican people and I'm sitting
• 49:11
  there going, you motherfuckers, those were real people that
• 49:17
  exists, not all of them, but you can go around the Spanish parts
• 49:20
  of San Andreas in Los antos and see, just regular Spanish people
• 49:25
  and Latino guy walking around, it's not all gangbangers, but
• 49:29
  their gang bangers are Is I all the Traders?
• 49:33
  They were Thing Worth fucking some worth some.
• 49:36
  Yeah. Look like you're somewhere
• 49:37
  Bandits. Yeah, the point is is like is
• 49:41
  like the actual, the actual gangbangers are supposed to be
• 49:44
  portrayed. As like, as you know, bad ha
• 49:49
  Hombres or whatever? Yeah, exactly.
• 49:51
  That bad guys. And it was like oh, why can't
• 49:54
  why can't we have a positive portrayal of Latinos and video
• 49:57
  games as heroes or features or some just asinine shit.
• 50:01
  I'm Like what the fuck is this schlock?
• 50:04
  Thankful I didn't watch x way too much longer after that
• 50:06
  because it just got worse and worse.
• 50:07
  So G Ford died with many. Yeah, and they decide to bring
• 50:12
  it back in the modern social media age which is the stupidest
• 50:16
  goddamn idea I could ever think of.
• 50:18
  Yeah. And there was a controversy, not
• 50:20
  long ago about what we actually covered here brief.
• 50:25
  Oh, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
• 50:27
  So I want to just wrap this all up with that point in So
• 50:32
  obviously you didn't Morgan Webb didn't want to come back to
• 50:35
  X-Play. It was just sessler because
• 50:37
  sessler needs a money and saw out a little bit.
• 50:41
  Hazel is one of the buy-in fuck me, right?
• 50:43
  So they get I think Jared the completionist which is weird.
• 50:50
  Some black dude who really like talking about ass and titties on
• 50:56
  his own stream and talking about how much he likes to how you
• 51:01
  know. No, if you tell a woman to
• 51:03
  swallow, she'll just do. It was some weird shit, right?
• 51:06
  But he was on that couch, next to a particular lady in
• 51:09
  particular who was named Frost and, and in, this is all thing
• 51:16
  pisses me off to fold. And I know one of the reasons
• 51:18
  that this, I probably both are the same reasons to piss you
• 51:21
  off. So, the first part is that
• 51:24
  instead of talking about the lack of care for Red Dead,
• 51:28
  Redemption to that Rockstar was giving. it and the overall
• 51:32
  neglected the game and how it's a fucking travesty she decides
• 51:38
  to go off on a rant about how Basically the, the the viewers,
• 51:49
  the Chatters, they all hater that they always say that other
• 51:53
  women are hotter and that she's not there to be a sex symbol and
• 51:57
  or she's not there to be all gold out or whatever.
• 52:00
  And that's weird. You guys are weird creepy
• 52:02
  pervert losers. Same kind of gamergate rhetoric
• 52:05
  and of course Adam was clapping in the black man would go.
• 52:08
  You tell them. Yeah.
• 52:09
  That's right. Are you do you go for us?
• 52:20
  and the whole thing is that same kind of like When you talk down
• 52:28
  to someone like, if you have something to say, okay, that's
• 52:31
  that's fine. You can do it but it gets
• 52:34
  hijacked by the sort of shit by people who either take it too
• 52:38
  far or just I think in her case she might have just legit
• 52:41
  hijacked it. I don't fucking know but trying
• 52:43
  to say oh women work on this whole thing and you know women
• 52:46
  are Gamers like yeah we get it no we get it and skipping yeah I
• 52:51
  think. Yeah.
• 52:54
  Now my whole take on the frost thing and this and this I mean I
• 52:59
  hate to say it but like what? And it ruined the product, it
• 53:01
  ruined the show, they show isn't in remission.
• 53:04
  The whole networks in remission because she told people not to
• 53:06
  watch continue. Yeah, well, so here's so, here's
• 53:10
  my thing. So revenge of the show and G40
• 53:15
  be back in the day, was primarily targeted at teenage
• 53:20
  guys, right? Or guys in there.
• 53:22
  Teens and 20s whatever. Basically that was it that was
• 53:27
  always the Target demographic. Honestly.
• 53:31
  So exploit was too. Yeah.
• 53:34
  And and same and same. And same thing with with like
• 53:38
  Playboy and same thing with the Sports Illustrated, who all I
• 53:42
  promise I'll tie those things into in together but like they
• 53:46
  were things. So the thing that drives me
• 53:50
  crazy, just with forth with like fourth wave, feminism in general
• 53:54
  is like right there. Obviously things are like
• 54:00
  Marketed more or less to straight you know hetero you
• 54:07
  know sexual heteronormative whatever you want to call it.
• 54:10
  There are there are some brands are intentionally like Made For
• 54:15
  You know guys for a long. Yeah has AIDS and a body spray.
• 54:31
  Sara Underwood is not there for you to jerk off to it.
• 54:34
  It's like And it's like and it's like now she little I posed for
• 54:40
  Playboy, that's a little. Yeah, that's Olivia Munn's, not
• 54:45
  there for you to OG lat while they have for jump into a pie in
• 54:49
  a maid outfit and like lick a PlayStation and all this shit
• 54:54
  she she was absolutely there to be a fucking sex symbol and
• 55:00
  Morgan Morgan was picked because she was hot Morgan, got on the
• 55:05
  screen savers. Because she had tits and could
• 55:09
  pass the camera test, along with a couple of other girls who
• 55:13
  worked on that. Because I've read the book
• 55:14
  behind the scenes in the during that era.
• 55:17
  Well, and the thing, the thing of it is is like there was just
• 55:21
  working. Yeah, it was you talks like any,
• 55:25
  you know, like model or, you know, any anyone who's in that
• 55:30
  position and most of the time, if you ask them like, you know,
• 55:34
  hey you know, how did you feel that?
• 55:36
  Out that they were like, yeah, we were cool with it like, like
• 55:40
  thing, they knew that they were there, you know, to be sex
• 55:44
  symbols and they were not and, you know, and they were okay
• 55:46
  with it. In fact, you know, not only were
• 55:48
  some of them, okay with it. Some of them, you know, really
• 55:52
  likes it. For what I mean?
• 55:53
  I mean, hey, if somebody thinks you're attractive enough and a,
• 55:56
  even if it's just had, hey, you got something, you know?
• 56:00
  Yeah, it opens up new doors and a lot of them are a lot of folks
• 56:03
  in general in Show Business during that era especially.
• 56:06
  The middle eighties were opportunistic.
• 56:09
  Yeah and you know like I understand like we have things
• 56:15
  like Harvey what I understand there are you know that there
• 56:19
  are drastic cases like Harvey Weinstein, but the problem is,
• 56:24
  but the problem is now we will have an assassin.
• 56:27
  Now, we live in a culture or in an internet culture.
• 56:31
  I should say, what by saying, a society of sorts Yeah, we will.
• 56:39
  This is this is my big George Costanza /, you know?
• 56:45
  Yeah, I guess Joker. You know, since that's what this
• 56:48
  do, you know, it's all we know. No, it's always going to be
• 56:51
  George, we're living in a society.
• 57:08
  jerk off into the same, you know, category category as hot
• 57:16
  as like, Harvey Weinstein and it's just It's that level of
• 57:21
  extremism and it's that level of activism.
• 57:24
  It's like, okay. So you want to lump all, guys,
• 57:28
  in with Harvey Weinstein, you want to lump all Gamers and what
• 57:32
  power you want? Ari Weinstein.
• 57:35
  And you don't see why gamergate happened and why it's, you know,
• 57:40
  still some other Island thing. That's the problem.
• 57:44
  It's not that Limon em. Look, the other thing too is I'm
• 57:48
  like it. If?
• 57:51
  If sexy women in gaming, you know, are such a problem.
• 57:56
  You know, if it were if it's so bad for when women to be sexy,
• 58:00
  then why is oh God, I can't wait amaranth.
• 58:07
  Why is she at the end? Why is someone like kitty
• 58:12
  malaise a thing? You know?
• 58:14
  It mean I got to fold on you for this one.
• 58:18
  All right, one little Just have that quick little discussion and
• 58:23
  press F in chat. For all of the, the video game
• 58:26
  convention, Booth babes. No more hot chicks.
• 58:29
  We're in video game clothing or costumes to sell you product
• 58:33
  because apparently, the non pretty girls don't like that and
• 58:37
  then the pretty girls that have these jobs.
• 58:38
  Like, what the fuck we rely on these jobs?
• 58:42
  Why are you doing all right? Yeah.
• 58:45
  No. I know.
• 58:46
  I would only the sad thing is, is like I have a, I have a
• 58:51
  friend who's who used to be like a competitor in, you know, the
• 58:58
  Miss America. Pageant and okay.
• 59:02
  And then when they started to change things and get super
• 59:05
  political in like allow the senate in a while, I like the
• 59:09
  foreplay feminists, like start to influence this.
• 59:12
  This thing she's like Yeah, I'm I'm out.
• 59:17
  And then I asked her, I'm like, I'm like wind, she's like,
• 59:21
  because I don't necessarily, I don't mind, you know, what it,
• 59:26
  what it was before I didn't want, I didn't want it to change
• 59:29
  like, no, nobody, nobody asked any of us who were actually
• 59:34
  competing what we wanted. They just kneel to the to the
• 59:38
  activists in that and like, yeah.
• 59:41
  And that's the thing and And that was kind of what?
• 59:46
  What the nice gentleman who interviewed mr.
• 59:48
  Medicare had brought up is that he was having these liberal
• 59:52
  middle to high class. White people telling him why he
• 59:54
  should be offended as a black man about social issues.
• 59:58
  And then the second it said exact same fucking shit.
• 1:00:02
  And you know, I guess that kind of shit started with.
• 1:00:09
  Feminism, I don't know if that's where that particular ideology
• 1:00:12
  of let me explain the use our didn't start out of the fourth
• 1:00:15
  wave because it that should spread through Tumblr like
• 1:00:19
  wildfire. But yeah the booth babes is one
• 1:00:24
  and yeah you have you have women who don't who don't mind like
• 1:00:27
  granted of course some probably are taken advantage of here
• 1:00:30
  there and some just accept it as rules of doing business.
• 1:00:34
  Not whether that's wrong, right? That's not for me to fucking
• 1:00:36
  this. I don't I'm not going to claim
• 1:00:39
  to be any higher power. Don't don't do things to people,
• 1:00:41
  they don't want done. Don't be a sleazebag.
• 1:00:43
  Sure. But, you know, if the wind
• 1:00:47
  happen if the woman goes there, no, she's going to put on a
• 1:00:49
  skimpy dress with a logo on it and hand out some stuff for a
• 1:00:53
  couple hours and get paid five 600, 700 bucks fucking make your
• 1:00:58
  money. I should, I wish I was fucking
• 1:01:00
  hot enough in a female to do that.
• 1:01:02
  That sounds like, Easy Money shit.
• 1:01:04
  I'm not. And most, and most guys, is at
• 1:01:10
  those conventions generally like, You know, aren't like most
• 1:01:15
  guys, aren't sleaze bags are not sleazebags.
• 1:01:20
  Like, yeah, you might get, you know, you might get a few looks
• 1:01:23
  but nothing like, you know serious.
• 1:01:27
  Yeah. There's, there's always security
• 1:01:29
  and stuff like that, and it's a very minor example what it's
• 1:01:32
  like, but in the thing is, too is God.
• 1:01:37
  I forgot the other. Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:38
  The other point of, like, sex cells.
• 1:01:40
  Are you were you saying? Yeah.
• 1:01:41
  Aw, Jesus Christ, female streamers in general with
• 1:01:45
  cleavage. Um, and then like you don't you
• 1:01:51
  don't even need to sell it on pure sex appeal and that's why V
• 1:01:53
  tubers are thing. Like sometimes it's just a dude
• 1:01:59
  wants to spend time with a girl. One way or the other, it's not
• 1:02:03
  even about sex half the goddamn time.
• 1:02:06
  So it's a weird thing to try to fight on is like, oh we're not.
• 1:02:10
  I gaining. Yeah.
• 1:02:11
  But you're supposed to be entertaining and I'm not fucking
• 1:02:13
  entertained right now. Yeah.
• 1:02:16
  And yeah, and I mean, like, you know, I know that like people
• 1:02:20
  say, well, you know, well in cell culture, that that's a
• 1:02:23
  problem in it and it's like, well, maybe maybe if like, maybe
• 1:02:28
  maybe of guys, you know weren't so like maybe one so stigmatized
• 1:02:33
  be a guy, you know, these days like Now sure, that, you know,
• 1:02:39
  they're like actual cases, like, actual and cells, right?
• 1:02:42
  Yeah, I think most of the time, it's just, it's just guys who
• 1:02:46
  are awkward, who don't know how to talk to girls and, and then
• 1:02:51
  in this generally mean, well, yeah, and if you're and if
• 1:02:56
  you're, you know, and if you're slightly awkward, oh, that's
• 1:02:59
  probably that's problematic. So, SPS aren't V tubers just
• 1:03:07
  guys. Oh no.
• 1:03:07
  They're they're they're female. They're are there have been a
• 1:03:10
  couple of cases of a guy pretending to be a girl but no
• 1:03:13
  it's a very female dominated field in the same way.
• 1:03:16
  That female streamers dominate their own Fields.
• 1:03:19
  Yeah. Yeah no.
• 1:03:23
  I mean oh sure you're a you're a gamer you know I know.
• 1:03:27
  I know. So yeah I mean I mean yes isn't
• 1:03:33
  isn't like Even your internet mom.
• 1:03:35
  Pipkin pip guy. You know, my mother is 15 pipa
• 1:03:39
  and my father is Tenma my me correct.
• 1:03:42
  Unofficially unofficially for legal reasons.
• 1:03:47
  But yeah I yeah I know. It's it's some cash a yeah, they
• 1:03:53
  are. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:56
  I mean, I don't know what that means for my future but I know
• 1:03:59
  both of them are females for absolute certain.
• 1:04:03
  Oh, oh both of them are. I mean, you can look at a lot of
• 1:04:09
  the very top high-end YouTubers. They've all got their, they call
• 1:04:15
  them roommate. But the details on who they are,
• 1:04:17
  are out people know. They are like one of the most
• 1:04:20
  popular. She's a rapper.
• 1:04:24
  Like she does shows like she's 100% female in every sense of
• 1:04:29
  the word. Yeah.
• 1:04:31
  And a lot of it is kind of some cash and it varies because of e.
• 1:04:34
  Tubing thing is just as wide as YouTube like you have people who
• 1:04:38
  try to sell like oh it's a girlfriend experience or oh,
• 1:04:44
  it's the mommy experience or some shit like that.
• 1:04:48
  But then you have people like Pipkin pipo like my like my
• 1:04:51
  mother who Ooh just think of an a pink anime short rabbit,
• 1:04:57
  playing postal 2 and talking about how they're putting
• 1:05:00
  chemicals in the water. That that's Pippa.
• 1:05:04
  That's why I love people. That's why I picked this my oh
• 1:05:07
  she because it's such a wide range of their absolutely
• 1:05:14
  thoughts left, right? And center.
• 1:05:17
  And then they're just, they're just people being people in the
• 1:05:20
  same way that, you know, you would find on YouTube of just
• 1:05:24
  crazy people being crazy people. Yeah, you know, and, you know,
• 1:05:29
  and why, and it's like Oh, I have a lot of the people who are
• 1:05:34
  complaining it like a while I've missed, you know, gamer culture
• 1:05:36
  and just internet culture in general, don't understand, don't
• 1:05:41
  understand to begin with, right? It's like yeah, if I'm
• 1:05:45
  complaining about well I mean this might not this might not
• 1:05:49
  quite be the same thing but like because we all depend on it but
• 1:05:52
  like it would be me complaining like plumber Plumbing, you know.
• 1:05:57
  And how like You know, it would be me.
• 1:06:01
  It would be me complaining like the way plumbers DUIs and thing,
• 1:06:04
  when I don't understand the first thing about Plumbing.
• 1:06:07
  Oh yeah. You know, or something or
• 1:06:12
  something like that. So, um, so I mean, it kind of,
• 1:06:19
  It kind of seems to me, like gamergate.
• 1:06:23
  Well, I mean, I know there's also, like, Comics gay and, you
• 1:06:27
  know, stuff like that will gate gamergate, is, what kind of
• 1:06:31
  really pushed the gas on. Let's call anything.
• 1:06:35
  That's a controversy, a gate right now, was the beginning of
• 1:06:39
  that. Shit.
• 1:06:41
  We had that wasn't commonly used since fucking Watergate, you
• 1:06:44
  know, right? Yeah.
• 1:06:47
  Would you blow job gate is a new term.
• 1:06:49
  That is not what it was called back in the 90s.
• 1:06:51
  No, no. It was, it was called.
• 1:06:54
  It was, it was called the, it was called.
• 1:06:56
  Well, I mean, it was, it was called, it was called well when
• 1:06:59
  ski I just call it. Yeah, I just like to call it
• 1:07:03
  Blow dog gate because that's happened.
• 1:07:06
  I mean I'm sure many people do. And you know, in and I mean and
• 1:07:12
  honestly like as far as Scandal and as far as like scandals go,
• 1:07:17
  that wasn't that wasn't the worst thing.
• 1:07:19
  The other. I mean, the other rumors with
• 1:07:22
  with Trump is it's been confirmed like he's somewhat to
• 1:07:26
  Playboy Playmates and I was like what's wrong there.
• 1:07:29
  And then there was also, you know, rumors that he went out
• 1:07:33
  with like Trish Stratus and Torrie Wilson a few times and
• 1:07:37
  I'm like, okay well And there's definitely, no problem problem
• 1:07:41
  there. Like this just makes me want to
• 1:07:43
  vote for more or some, you know, stuff like that.
• 1:07:47
  So gotta kind of messaging from genius anus about what what they
• 1:07:52
  called the Scandal back in the 90s?
• 1:07:54
  You wanna know what he has to say?
• 1:07:56
  Yeah, I love to hear what yeah what the anus face has to say
• 1:08:01
  form at genius anus on Twitter tells me that the the Clinton
• 1:08:07
  blowjob Scandal of the TS was called Jewish girls.
• 1:08:11
  Never played pay for dry-cleaning
• 1:08:34
  also. I will say no one is safe from
• 1:08:36
  the grift and grifting in itself.
• 1:08:37
  It's not fucking That I do not technically serve 4 people, I
• 1:08:43
  like that, but because I adhere to that kind of schizoid mental
• 1:08:47
  health, sometimes gamer words might fall out mentality.
• 1:08:54
  But no, she's actually one that says like, beware parasocial
• 1:08:58
  relationships. Beware how much money you give
• 1:09:01
  think, realistically about it, like engage engage with your
• 1:09:05
  entertainment in a healthy way. Like she pushes for that and
• 1:09:08
  That's also one reason why I like her so much is because
• 1:09:12
  whereas other V tubers will say will act like, you know, a
• 1:09:16
  girlfriend or call, you honey or something.
• 1:09:19
  If you Super Chat them or give you special attention.
• 1:09:23
  She's like, no, don't do any of that.
• 1:09:24
  Don't fall for that. They're trying to trick you
• 1:09:27
  would be wearing motherfuckers like that.
• 1:09:29
  Yeah. Which is weird.
• 1:09:31
  It's weird to me that like the gamers do do that.
• 1:09:35
  I mean, it's weird to me that like Gamers and people who don't
• 1:09:39
  Horn. I mean it I guess weird when
• 1:09:41
  like you know when like cam girls do too but like with like
• 1:09:45
  cam girls and we're not it at least makes sense somewhat
• 1:09:49
  because it always felt like you know it is supposed to be sexual
• 1:09:53
  but like when you know, when like video game players do that,
• 1:09:59
  that's when it gets weird. So it's or weirder, I guess I
• 1:10:04
  should say. I mean don't get me wrong like
• 1:10:06
  people are going to watch for their own.
• 1:10:08
  Ins. And Everybody's watching for
• 1:10:12
  something different, right? There are some dudes that just
• 1:10:14
  want to watch and see fucking tits.
• 1:10:17
  Are some dudes are watching just want to hear a nice voice and
• 1:10:20
  then you have dudes like me who want to watch gameplay and you
• 1:10:26
  know the the the the anime person talking is just a little
• 1:10:29
  addition to what, you know. I loved ones place you know back
• 1:10:33
  from the 2012, back from the gamergate a share.
• 1:10:36
  I find love Lets Plays. No dude no dude some of those
• 1:10:41
  Let's Plays help and actually like, help me get through games
• 1:10:45
  to that. That's that's the other thing is
• 1:10:48
  like, I've been able to experience games that I wouldn't
• 1:10:51
  have been able to play on my own that is just easier to watch it.
• 1:10:54
  Yeah. Oh yeah completely.
• 1:10:56
  So but yeah, I know it's it's It's II hate to.
• 1:11:04
  I like I get it like, you know, games did sell on hot, female
• 1:11:10
  girls in it, in a way like, okay, Tifa was hot.
• 1:11:14
  Laura was hot. Laura Croft was hot back in the
• 1:11:15
  day and descend the other fucking.
• 1:11:18
  What's a chick from blood rain? Um all kinds of shit like that,
• 1:11:22
  right? But in this case, it's like now
• 1:11:25
  all the sex appeal is to the people playing the games and the
• 1:11:29
  games are not the game. So give me nothing like Look at
• 1:11:33
  what a play, the games that whole I'm not just watching for
• 1:11:35
  someone to sit there and want to play with her fucking tits out
• 1:11:38
  of want to play the fucking game.
• 1:11:40
  Um so I watch for you know, somebody doing something cool or
• 1:11:44
  just I'm watching for somebody, I want to see somebody who their
• 1:11:48
  personalities are like is let's play or whatever, play through,
• 1:11:51
  and get a genuine reaction. And I think to a lot of it also
• 1:11:58
  boils down to that. I think a lot of those dreamers
• 1:12:00
  tend to pick Multiplayer games. Where it's just the same thing,
• 1:12:08
  all the time. They don't have to think about a
• 1:12:11
  story or be emotional half the time and the send the other and,
• 1:12:17
  and then you get another weird shit.
• 1:12:19
  Like the hot tub strength streaming culture and channels,
• 1:12:21
  weird? Yeah.
• 1:12:26
  Which, which blows this whole thing of like, women shouldn't
• 1:12:29
  be sexualized out of the fucking water.
• 1:12:32
  When hot tub streams are a fucking thing on Twitch.
• 1:12:36
  Right body, painting streams and fuck.
• 1:12:45
  My favorite my favorite is all like these lingerie like you
• 1:12:49
  know, streamers or whatnot. Who are like her?
• 1:12:51
  Like it's not sexual. Meanwhile their titties are
• 1:12:55
  like, you know close. Yeah.
• 1:12:58
  Like everyone. Everyone knows what you're
• 1:12:59
  doing. So it's I say, I say all of that
• 1:13:07
  to counteract Frost and say no women Put on these shows and
• 1:13:13
  done to sell this product because you are working for a
• 1:13:16
  corporation and you are selling a product don't ever.
• 1:13:21
  It's not sex play with never some indie thing.
• 1:13:24
  It was new and edgy for the time in 2003 and it pushed some
• 1:13:28
  bounds and it was scuff a little bit for TV programming, but it
• 1:13:33
  was still, they had to hit numbers, they had to push
• 1:13:37
  things. So Morgan had to wear certain
• 1:13:40
  kinds of shirts that showed off arms a little More or something,
• 1:13:43
  or they would do the hentai game section or they can look a Penta
• 1:13:46
  games when they were in Japan, like they had to cater to the
• 1:13:49
  demographic because it shows made for a demographic same way,
• 1:13:55
  unscrewed with Martin Sergeant was.
• 1:13:59
  And so for frost to, for frost to say that someone like me who
• 1:14:03
  is a huge fan of tech TV back in the day and to an extent G4.
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  I fucking am pissed because somebody like that is working.
• 1:14:12
  Something, I heralded so close to my heart and understood the
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  core of like II. Things have to change and adapt,
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  right? But to say these kinds of things
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  and not be able to even admit what the past was like you you
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  deny any side of that and you have to take it for what it is
• 1:14:32
  to appreciate it so it's like And on top of it, that's just a
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  fucking Twitter rant. Shut the fuck up and keep it on
• 1:14:39
  Twitter. But the thing is is that there
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  were other girls that weren't the only reason that she got
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  upset is because guys didn't find her hot.
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  They found the other girls hot but it was her.
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  And she just kept saying, oh, and chat this.
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  That they're saying, chat wasn't saying that goddamn thing.
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  I think it was shit from Twitter and shit.
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  She read online. And yeah.
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  Well yeah, one and and then that's the other adjectives, you
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  know, don't of don't feed the Holes, speaking of when women
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  in, get in gaming, I did not plan for this.
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  I swear to God, I didn't want but 80 just tweeted out the most
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  appropriate meme on Twitter. Oh, did she have on?
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  Which I put it up on screen. Wait wait I've got a quick the
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  thing so it'll actually okay I'm familiar with tomatoes.
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  This, by the way, he does, he does good work.
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  And yes X-Play also reviewed games very well.
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  Morgan wet was fantastic. No, fuck that.
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  Do I want that? I want Archie be fucking stove.
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  That looks fucking dope for for the, for the people, for the
• 1:16:02
  people listening on the audio podcast for the podcast.
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  See this the meme is gaming setup for girls and then it's
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  and it's a picture of a skill. A skeleton like a neon, what
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  cook topper, right? Fire itself is RGB which
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  actually I'm not gonna lie that actually legit kind of seems
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  cool to be entrained rainbow fire coming out of your stove.
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  Yeah, sure. Fuck it.
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  as it gets my eggs done in the morning, you know.
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  dad gaming was better when female Gamers were only fans of
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  gaming and not trying to shill an only fans career which I
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  agree with. Yeah.
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  Well I mean Yeah, they got a rougher back then rougher than
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  they get it. Now back when it was just girls
• 1:17:08
  who like to video games, they got it so much way worse than
• 1:17:13
  chicks, have it today, and games because now there's so much more
• 1:17:18
  adjustment to the culture to kind of prevent the, I mean,
• 1:17:21
  shit, still happens. But nowhere near.
• 1:17:23
  Where used to, I was in those fucking Halo, 2 lobbies?
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  well, and then there are well. But then but then the other
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  thing. It was always funny was like, I
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  was in a couple of those, like I was in a couple early Call of
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  Duty a lobbies. I remember where they would be
• 1:17:40
  chicks and it would be, it would be hilarious, right?
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  Because you would, because you would, you know, you you would
• 1:17:48
  get some pretty fell, you know, shit hurled up at the females
• 1:17:53
  and then, you know, rather than like crying or devil.
• 1:17:56
  A lot of these people back in the day would say, oh yeah, well
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  in fuck, you back your dick. Let you know, you dick.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Like they would banter back or they would be quiet and the ones
• 1:18:07
  who felt they had to be quiet. That fucking sucks.
• 1:18:09
  But like the ones who could hit it and adapt and roll with it,
• 1:18:14
  they ended up being that pretty bad ass like a bird, someone
• 1:18:18
  chick popping off. And even if she wasn't doing
• 1:18:21
  super great like that was still like, oh damn okay shit.
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  That's cool. Yeah, I mean and it was and it
• 1:18:30
  was hilarious because then because then you would be like
• 1:18:33
  oh shit. This girl can can rev.
• 1:18:36
  Yeah and she likes games. Hey, that's enough.
• 1:18:40
  Yeah, yeah. So it's it's, it's It seems were
• 1:18:49
  still seeing today and we're still seeing in how games are
• 1:18:53
  marketed and it it is permeated the industry to its core.
• 1:18:59
  I remembered the Capcom leak came out not too long ago with a
• 1:19:04
  lot of internals. And there were documents for
• 1:19:07
  Capcom talking about avoiding gender stereotypes.
• 1:19:12
  So, they wanted to avoid rolls like Zelda and Link, And Mario
• 1:19:18
  and Peach. And they wanted to embrace
• 1:19:21
  things like the last of us. And, or I'm sorry, The Last of
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  Us Part 2 and life is strange. If I remember, yeah, I know it.
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  It's got a positive representation or something or
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  fighting. I know the Japanese aren't used
• 1:19:36
  to this bullshit. Ya know what?
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  Let me tell you how? Let me tell you how bad, how bad
• 1:19:43
  it's gotten when I was in, when I was in my, I think my It
• 1:19:47
  wasn't quite bad, my son, my freshman year of college but it
• 1:19:53
  really got bad around like 2015, 2016.
• 1:19:57
  When I was in my sophomore year of of college So, I remember, I
• 1:20:08
  remember, I actually had a professor who made this stupid
• 1:20:15
  rule that you could not use gender, the language.
• 1:20:20
  Fuck. So, I remember, I remember, I
• 1:20:24
  got I wrote like, I'm not saying was perfect, but it was pretty,
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  it was, it was actually a pause paper.
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  Probably and I remember I remember I wrote something out
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  like fire subject was something on you know, on fire men.
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  The subject was on like firefighters or something like
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  that and I used the term fireman, I use the term fireman,
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  right? And I got it, I got points taken
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  off because I referred to the firefighter as a fire, you know
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  me? Yeah.
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  Yeah. End of a fire.
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  And it was just like, And it was just like, what, what, but why
• 1:21:10
  are you taking my beans out for that?
• 1:21:12
  But yeah, like that's that's type of petty bullshit.
• 1:21:15
  Now, that were and it's it's it's that kind of shit where it
• 1:21:19
  says the actually that's not a proper to use when like common
• 1:21:28
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• 1:21:37
  because in that term, you guys can yes mean a group of guys or
• 1:21:41
  you guys can mean a generalized group of people due to Common
• 1:21:45
  usage and how we adapt language trying to fight over the
• 1:21:49
  semantics of language and control how it evolved.
• 1:21:53
  Normally has been one of the most infuriating things I've had
• 1:21:56
  to deal with and because they'd hit eyes into the video games
• 1:22:00
  because then when they localized Japanese games we have to
• 1:22:03
  fucking suffer and same front of me, we have to suffer with this
• 1:22:06
  fucking In bullshit where they try to work in through
• 1:22:11
  localization, quote localization, in some cases,
• 1:22:14
  certain kinds of jokes or rephrases or change how certain
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  characters were represented in original media.
• 1:22:22
  Yeah, well, it's interesting that you say that because like I
• 1:22:25
  have I have friends who are, I have, you know, granted their
• 1:22:29
  internet friends with, they're still friends who liked, who I
• 1:22:32
  who, you know I've known for the past few years who are like from
• 1:22:35
  France who are from France and Europe and whatnot and, you
• 1:22:40
  know, over there where you know, French and Spanish and we're not
• 1:22:45
  like those all. You know, you have the mango
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  languages. So is pretty good.
• 1:22:55
  But even so they'll be like, what is this?
• 1:23:00
  Trans? What is this?
• 1:23:02
  Non Jen like, like they don't they don't get the concept.
• 1:23:05
  Like, how can you? But like, like one of the like,
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  one of my friends who is friend Jack?
• 1:23:13
  She says something that's very funny, but true.
• 1:23:15
  He said trying to use language without gender is like trying to
• 1:23:21
  breathe air without oxygen or I mean it wasn't it wasn't perfect
• 1:23:26
  grammatically but like I understood what he was trying to
• 1:23:29
  I say it's like yeah for so like for some reason European
• 1:23:33
  countries, don't they laugh at all of us?
• 1:23:37
  You know gender. Yeah, they really do South
• 1:23:41
  Americans do. Yeah.
• 1:23:43
  It's uniquely as you. It's uniquely an American, you
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  know, a Canadian. Yeah.
• 1:23:50
  And somewhat like, Western thin and an American candidate.
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  Yeah. It's it has to do with the
• 1:23:57
  Melting Pot syndrome. Yeah, well, yeah.
• 1:24:02
  Well, now, it just seems like the melting butter has melted.
• 1:24:05
  Melted everyone's brains at this point.
• 1:24:11
  I mean, yeah. It'sit's kind of I ate it has
• 1:24:14
  gone to I like there's I go back to thing that fucking Latinos
• 1:24:19
  and Latinas hate fucking the hate.
• 1:24:21
  They hate the term Latin X. I hate the term lot next.
• 1:24:24
  It's stupid as shit. It sounds stupid as shit, it's
• 1:24:27
  not part of the language, and it's being dictated by people
• 1:24:30
  who aren't primary speakers of that language which is even more
• 1:24:33
  inferior, right? Yeah.
• 1:24:35
  Yeah. And then and then when and then
• 1:24:37
  when I asked what, and then when I and then, I asked what?
• 1:24:41
  A lot and eggs is no one can give me a straight answer as
• 1:24:45
  what it is because there are 50 because the other thing too with
• 1:24:49
  all this non-gender stuff, is there.
• 1:24:52
  Anyone can give you 50 fucking definitions for any one of these
• 1:24:56
  things. And the fact they say oh, well,
• 1:24:59
  well well it keeps changing. It's like It's like oh, so
• 1:25:05
  changes on a whim. Yeah that that's bullshit.
• 1:25:10
  Oh yeah. The gender fluid and she yeah,
• 1:25:13
  it's it's it's Be what you want to be.
• 1:25:19
  I don't give a fuck just like, yeah, I quote, fucking filthy
• 1:25:25
  frame. Basically, I don't fucking care
• 1:25:28
  what you like, okay, I'm a fucking Hustler.
• 1:25:30
  You just don't just, don't be up in my face with it.
• 1:25:34
  Yeah, yeah. I take that to heart.
• 1:25:36
  Yeah, I like it when you try to tell other people how their
• 1:25:41
  culture should adapt based on this particular sort of thing or
• 1:25:44
  this minority group of people in comparison to the majority or
• 1:25:48
  trying to like they don't, you're right and you're up
• 1:25:51
  there, it's And there but it's nowhere near the levels of
• 1:25:55
  Canada and the US in terms of so many people don't fit that the
• 1:26:00
  the I guess you'd say the traditional mold anymore.
• 1:26:05
  Yeah, and I think, I think almost in a way, the only reason
• 1:26:10
  why it's in those countries as much as it is, is parse probably
• 1:26:15
  because of the internet. My only two rules are basically,
• 1:26:22
  you know, you do, you don't, you know, don't bother and then one
• 1:26:26
  and then don't don't met and then don't mess with children
• 1:26:31
  and, you know, really and just like and just let kids be kids.
• 1:26:36
  Yeah, other than that, As long as you're not harming anyone,
• 1:26:42
  what you do behind closed, doors your business, you know, in a
• 1:26:45
  fucking thing to meet ya. And and the funny thing is, is
• 1:26:49
  like 40 years, 40 years ago, not even 40 years ago, 30 years ago.
• 1:26:55
  Now that that used to be like a reasonable, you know, things
• 1:27:00
  even from like, even from the left or, you know, from the web
• 1:27:04
  rules. But now, I think it does I mean,
• 1:27:09
  even even, I mean, God there was a point where he was like, even
• 1:27:13
  in the 90s and probably fucking the 80s, even is like, it was
• 1:27:18
  kind of like the military don't ask.
• 1:27:19
  Don't tell what you do is your business is, you know, he would
• 1:27:22
  yourself or whatever and some people are okay with, you know,
• 1:27:27
  but then some people took it and they turned it into an identity.
• 1:27:30
  And, and then she got wacky. yeah, it's just yeah.
• 1:27:43
  Things got wacky and people say, well, the other thing is we
• 1:27:47
  start is we I think as people we started taking ourselves too
• 1:27:52
  seriously. Fucking it by my fucking way too
• 1:27:55
  seriously. I think even us as a human
• 1:27:58
  species kind of takes ourselves too seriously.
• 1:28:02
  Yeah. I mean Yeah, just just in
• 1:28:05
  general, just in general. I mean, yeah, the fact that like
• 1:28:11
  in the fact that if I take this internet drama, seriously is, I
• 1:28:16
  mean in some cases, right? Like, if you're swatting people
• 1:28:20
  and not like that's, you know, that's an extreme.
• 1:28:22
  And you should take that seriously.
• 1:28:24
  But like, yeah, if like, you know, Like Ralph, I get I always
• 1:28:31
  hate to make a profit. He's a perfect example of
• 1:28:33
  someone who knew he's the he is the prime example of someone,
• 1:28:38
  who can't lie, pics, Petty fights.
• 1:28:41
  And it's like, wait, what? You're you're starting Ireland
• 1:28:46
  shit over this really? Wow.
• 1:28:52
  I mean that's how that's the grift dog grift.
• 1:28:58
  Yes, it just go. It just goes to yeah, it just
• 1:29:03
  goes to show how, you know, weird everything and that's a
• 1:29:08
  one thing before I want to move forward with the point.
• 1:29:10
  I'm about to make about how things are are weird.
• 1:29:13
  Now for Steely anime? Yes, I sometimes say anime or
• 1:29:17
  sometimes they automate. It depends on who I'm around and
• 1:29:20
  how they say it on a man's. Technically, the older I get the
• 1:29:23
  more correct old school way of saying it.
• 1:29:26
  Animes just. It was in drilled in my brain.
• 1:29:28
  And so, now I bounced between the two and it's a personal
• 1:29:31
  hellscape. With every day.
• 1:29:32
  Hi, my name is occupied anyway. Moving forward with how it's
• 1:29:35
  strangely hold on. I just I just want to say acma
• 1:29:42
  steal. You might not have been here for
• 1:29:44
  his introduction episode a few weeks ago but a couple grew up
• 1:29:47
  in Japan so please you know Joey lived on an Air Force Base in
• 1:29:59
  Japan too. 22 in two places. Yeah.
• 1:30:04
  And so his his weep credentials are actually or jet I would hope
• 1:30:11
  because I don't like that much fucking anime anymore.
• 1:30:13
  Goddamn. I just said, culture, the
• 1:30:19
  culture I grew up partially a lot engorged by so I was like
• 1:30:23
  yeah, of course, I'm gonna be into that.
• 1:30:24
  Shit was all I saw. Dude, I mean what can I say?
• 1:30:34
  It's I'm guising but I can't help it.
• 1:30:37
  Like, I don't know. Well, it's okay.
• 1:30:41
  It's okay to be egg white, guys. You we all got to be the uncle,
• 1:30:44
  you know. Yeah.
• 1:30:46
  You know, and as much as people give you for Fran and I will say
• 1:30:51
  this, for now, at least anime is pretty I won't say it's based
• 1:31:00
  but it's not. It's not poiiticai sized the
• 1:31:03
  sjw, the SEC. The doves are kind of getting
• 1:31:08
  there, I know, I know they're trying but they haven't read
• 1:31:16
  them ruined yet. So the moon Rune cartoons.
• 1:31:20
  That's the term you guys are looking for in chat.
• 1:31:22
  Moon Room cartoons. Um but yeah, it's got Anime.
• 1:31:27
  I get it. About the anime industry but we
• 1:31:29
  got to stay on topic. Fuck but what I was going to say
• 1:31:32
  is I think what makes everything so weird and has you having
• 1:31:35
  these fucking moments with Ralph where you're like what the fuck
• 1:31:42
  why? And I saved the grift is because
• 1:31:45
  everything is fueled by money now and it really affects the
• 1:31:50
  type of stuff that's put out on the internet.
• 1:31:54
  Yeah, I think ruins a lot too. Oh yeah.
• 1:31:58
  Well, and what? All like, I'll be honest to.
• 1:32:04
  This is one of the things like drives me crazy as like as a
• 1:32:10
  podcaster, as someone as one who had stolen strong time, it's
• 1:32:13
  like it's like, yeah, do I do I want to make money doing the
• 1:32:20
  Whitfield report? Absolutely.
• 1:32:23
  Yeah. Whoo.
• 1:32:23
  So, you know what is big money from some danger?
• 1:32:25
  Yeah. But is but is making money.
• 1:32:29
  The reason is making money is making money.
• 1:32:34
  The reason why I do this, no I do this because I've always
• 1:32:39
  loved podcast. I've always been weirdly
• 1:32:41
  interested in politics, someone and I always enjoy talking to
• 1:32:46
  people. Yeah you know what shows goes,
• 1:32:49
  you're still doing it. Yeah and and Unfortunately, you
• 1:32:55
  know, I think, I think there are a lot of people out there like,
• 1:32:58
  me in a position, but unfortunately, because all
• 1:33:02
  because of all these grifters who have come in and started
• 1:33:06
  doing this, and have made, all that making money, I think it's
• 1:33:10
  kind of painted us all someone in a negative light.
• 1:33:16
  Oh, yeah. Munna everyone.
• 1:33:23
  But certainly like, you know, it's it may think there's more a
• 1:33:27
  stigma to overcome so, you know, yeah, that's that's why I would
• 1:33:31
  say. If you can donate, you know, all
• 1:33:35
  my stuff is in the description but I'm not going to be one of
• 1:33:40
  these people is like, you know you need to you need to pay me
• 1:33:45
  or else, you know. You're out of here.
• 1:33:47
  Are you? You know, I'm fucking pay
• 1:33:50
  PayPal. I'll dive or some stuff.
• 1:33:54
  I have stuff playing income dup. Whoa.
• 1:33:57
  Wow fucking words. Good job.
• 1:33:59
  Good job Acumen shit. I have some stuff planned out.
• 1:34:03
  Coming up that I want to do for my own YouTube channel and like
• 1:34:10
  I've been in the process of planning and thinking, and
• 1:34:14
  plotting shit out for six, six, seven months, solid and it's
• 1:34:19
  been stopped spinning my head for years.
• 1:34:21
  But I have certainly he certainly come to the terms of
• 1:34:29
  I'm doing this because I want to do creative things and I want to
• 1:34:32
  make creative things like I used to.
• 1:34:33
  When I was a teenager that when YouTube you could make money on,
• 1:34:37
  I just make silly amvs or lip sync.
• 1:34:40
  Videos to audio using games and stuff and you'd some YouTube
• 1:34:44
  poop stuff or things like that. I just would create and I had so
• 1:34:47
  much fun with it. It's why did Sprite art for a
• 1:34:49
  while? And I was just like fuck with
• 1:34:52
  little Sprites shit. So like I know anything, I do
• 1:34:57
  going forward, just don't even think about it and just do it
• 1:35:01
  for the fun of doing it. Exactly.
• 1:35:06
  Because it will reflect in the work.
• 1:35:08
  Yeah. If you're if you're entertaining
• 1:35:11
  and you put the effort in, you might not get do nose overnight
• 1:35:15
  but you'll start to, you know, you'll start to monetize one way
• 1:35:20
  or the one way or the other. Well, the thing is is like it's
• 1:35:23
  not even. I thought about it and and this
• 1:35:26
  is the its Because I'm thinking about what I'm doing and I want
• 1:35:31
  to do it for the creative because I have I enjoy these
• 1:35:34
  types of things and I want to make my own oven and Donna died
• 1:35:37
  like that but it's that I can't. It's not about making anything
• 1:35:43
  off of it because well I want it to be a catalog at the end of
• 1:35:46
  the day because I won't do it forever.
• 1:35:48
  Obviously, you know, nothing ultimately last forever.
• 1:35:53
  So I want to say that no matter what regardless of if I make
• 1:35:56
  something or nothing from it. That's okay.
• 1:35:59
  Because I'll have enjoyed what I made and I can enjoy going back
• 1:36:04
  to things and enjoying it. However, and it's just it's
• 1:36:07
  something that I created and I think that It's worth more than
• 1:36:11
  the monetary but for most people it's all about the fuck.
• 1:36:16
  You know. Cash rules, everything around me
• 1:36:17
  cream, get the money dollar dollar bill y'all you know.
• 1:36:20
  Yeah, that's how it is and I got stuck kind of almost in that set
• 1:36:24
  of like trying to plan out how growth and potential is like no,
• 1:36:27
  don't fucking worry about growth, do what you need to do
• 1:36:29
  to put it out and get eyes on it because you want people to enjoy
• 1:36:32
  and experience it but don't Take it as a business and put your
• 1:36:37
  best in but don't expect just do it for the sake of it.
• 1:36:43
  Well, well, the other the other thing too, and I mean, I've
• 1:36:46
  shared this before, what a bit but like after the, after the
• 1:36:51
  show, that was the 2020 election.
• 1:36:55
  I kind of got burnt out on doing like 24/7, political news
• 1:36:59
  coverage, right? Oh yeah, that shit will Tire
• 1:37:02
  you. Yeah.
• 1:37:03
  And, you know, And so I was just like, you know, I still wanted
• 1:37:07
  to do the show but I just want to do show where I can bands
• 1:37:13
  with people just out, you know, whatever more openly.
• 1:37:16
  I don't have I don't have to talk politics every day because
• 1:37:19
  I swear to God if I have to talk it like what?
• 1:37:22
  Joe Biden. Is doing?
• 1:37:25
  Yeah, I'm actually can get tiring.
• 1:37:27
  Yeah. There's they're all there only
• 1:37:29
  so many times you there. Only so many different times and
• 1:37:33
  so many different ways you can say that Joe Biden or really any
• 1:37:37
  politician for that matter. As a fuck up before the out
• 1:37:41
  before the audience. And I find myself saying to, you
• 1:37:44
  know, whenever I was in do is put a podcast where it's like,
• 1:37:47
  yeah, we know that, you know, by nuns and bad, you know, present
• 1:37:52
  are, you know, and it's kind It kind of gets repetitive and
• 1:37:56
  politics, you know, well, it's the same thing in like video
• 1:38:00
  game video game, YouTube sphere, you know, people can bash a game
• 1:38:05
  into the fucking sun and back but like at a point is just you.
• 1:38:09
  You can talk about a bad game and its development and how it's
• 1:38:12
  bad. But you're only going to be able
• 1:38:13
  to milk so much out of that topic.
• 1:38:15
  Yeah, but I'm a amazingly. I care about you.
• 1:38:19
  You can, you can talk about Final Fantasy seven four, four
• 1:38:22
  hours or or how I can't say any of the contents nutritious.
• 1:38:28
  So which one is it that? You absolutely absolutely.
• 1:38:33
  Hey, it's seven. It's seven, right?
• 1:38:38
  No, I don't solutely hate. 7i shit.
• 1:38:43
  You're probably all this water. I feel Very love-hate with
• 1:38:46
  seven. I have a very, very love-hate
• 1:38:49
  with seven. Um, I can see the good out of
• 1:38:53
  all of the final fantasies but a lot of them have some problems.
• 1:38:57
  I hate, I hate what 7 has become in terms of a mass marketing
• 1:39:03
  tool and and mobile brand recognition status tool.
• 1:39:08
  So just like So you have the same problem with the fight with
• 1:39:13
  the Final Fantasy franchise that I have with Rockstar Games in
• 1:39:18
  general, where it's like my problem with my problem with
• 1:39:22
  rock stars. They have so many great gaming
• 1:39:25
  franchises besides Grand Theft Auto like, like red dead, and
• 1:39:30
  Max Payne, for instance. But for whatever reason, I
• 1:39:33
  always decide to go back. And I mean I kind of get I get
• 1:39:38
  that GTA is the flagship and Hard.
• 1:39:41
  But it's like, even so you do You have so many other great
• 1:39:48
  franchises that you do absolutely nothing with or
• 1:39:52
  really do anything with that. Is my problem with Square Enix
• 1:39:57
  is, the companies I treat the Square Enix problem different
• 1:40:00
  from the Final Fantasy problem. And I treat the Final Fantasy
• 1:40:03
  problem different from, but as a result of the Final Fantasy 7
• 1:40:06
  problem, So, you and I have the same problem problem, with,
• 1:40:12
  with, oh my eye, it's kind of, it's, I mean, don't get me
• 1:40:16
  wrong. I have problem with many, many
• 1:40:18
  video, game companies fucking who doesn't have to, but it is
• 1:40:21
  sort of the same thing where I hate what Final Fantasy 7 has
• 1:40:25
  become because it's become this nostalgic Cash Cow lean on IP
• 1:40:31
  where they can just make something and it'll just sell
• 1:40:35
  top dollar hand over fist. Meanwhile, the main franchise of
• 1:40:38
  Final Fantasy He suffers the side games of Final Fantasy
• 1:40:42
  suffer and they all just end up as fucking the same kind of
• 1:40:46
  gotcha, gambling role-playing games.
• 1:40:49
  Are ya, gambling, fucking RPG, simulators.
• 1:40:55
  It comes from that. You have all these IPS you have
• 1:40:59
  things you could do. You could be creative again, you
• 1:41:01
  choose not to Final Fantasy. The whole reason Square Enix is
• 1:41:05
  a float is because of Final Fantasy, 14, as the only reason
• 1:41:09
  that this company has any fucking money to do anything
• 1:41:12
  with at all is because somehow they stumble and having the
• 1:41:16
  biggest MMORPG in the world and they have squandered it, they
• 1:41:19
  put nothing much back in ff14 and to the point that even with
• 1:41:23
  all that money being made, Because of incompetence and
• 1:41:27
  management on the board level, after CEO changes in and such of
• 1:41:31
  the nature. They had nothing in the pipeline
• 1:41:33
  creatively to do for Final Fantasy 15.
• 1:41:36
  So they pulled an in stasis project, pulled the director off
• 1:41:40
  of it. Gave it to a new guy told him.
• 1:41:42
  Rewrite it, reformat it! Fit it up, get it shit out in
• 1:41:46
  three years. By the way, while you're making
• 1:41:49
  the game, develop the engine. At the same time, three years
• 1:41:52
  go. Do you want it results in a bad
• 1:41:58
  product? Oh Yeah.
• 1:42:03
  Well my other problem with the gaming industry and the tech
• 1:42:08
  industry really in general is The idea of subscription based
• 1:42:16
  gaming and subscription based software.
• 1:42:21
  So I I don't know. Do you, do you have any of the
• 1:42:26
  art? Are you wanting those snobby PC
• 1:42:32
  Gamers or you, one of those PC Gamers as like consoles as well
• 1:42:36
  or some? Okay, all right, fucking little
• 1:42:41
  will. We'll go in.
• 1:42:43
  All right, I have, I have a gaming PC.
• 1:42:46
  It is the third gaming PC I've made in my lifetime.
• 1:42:52
  Since I was 16, I have to PlayStation ones, both are
• 1:42:58
  chipped and colored clear colored cases with storage
• 1:43:01
  extras. I have purple black, clear,
• 1:43:03
  orange and blue, PS1 cases. I have a Japanese PS2 with a
• 1:43:07
  custom flip-top for swap magic, and swapping region.
• 1:43:11
  Play discs. Hooked up with my games running
• 1:43:15
  over ethernet to it. While also soft modded off of a
• 1:43:19
  unique memory card. Playstation 3 is custom
• 1:43:22
  firmware. So I could do a replay Metal
• 1:43:27
  Gear online, 2, I have a PS4 which I bought for death
• 1:43:31
  stranding and then that came to PCC.
• 1:43:33
  So I hacked it for fucking PT, and blood-borne, Alpha, and
• 1:43:36
  this, that, and the other I hacked the fucking switch.
• 1:43:39
  I have my Super Nintendo still. I have my 2nd SS, Well, I have
• 1:43:42
  my Game Boy Color. My God, wonderswan color.
• 1:43:46
  I have my Vita, my 3DS, I have, I have everything because I like
• 1:43:51
  I grew up on consoles and I don't I don't particularly care
• 1:43:57
  that much for emulators. They're okay.
• 1:43:59
  They're great. When you want to just play
• 1:44:01
  something and you don't have it or it's not easy but nothing
• 1:44:04
  beats a feel of the authentic media.
• 1:44:07
  So, but now I'm gaming PC is kind of beef tour was for point.
• 1:44:12
  Aunt, I do enjoy PC game. I think PC gaming is kind of
• 1:44:16
  superior as a result consoles, kind of getting better with mods
• 1:44:19
  and things like that and possibility.
• 1:44:21
  But obviously they just can't compete but I respect both for
• 1:44:24
  what they do. Each have a purpose function and
• 1:44:27
  form and if the hardware has good software, Boom the yes.
• 1:44:33
  Sorry for that long winded. No, no, no, no.
• 1:44:37
  But you, but you, okay. So you have a as for now, the
• 1:44:44
  reason I ask is because So, I have a PS5, but I do not have a
• 1:44:53
  PlayStation Plus subscription and Italian in order to play
• 1:45:00
  multiplayer games, you need a, you need to, you need a PS Plus
• 1:45:07
  subscription, right? And the same way that you need
• 1:45:10
  Xbox Live for Xbox and switches thing for switch.
• 1:45:17
  Are they are Nintendo's service Force, which sorry?
• 1:45:21
  And to be honest and to be honest like that, type of shit.
• 1:45:24
  Drive me crazy because it's a scam, it's like yeah, yes, I was
• 1:45:31
  like all the net codes peer-to-peer Yeah, yeah,
• 1:45:36
  completely. So yeah and it's like well we
• 1:45:40
  did we didn't we didn't need these subscriptions to get to
• 1:45:44
  peer-to-peer, you know, multiplayer games like, you
• 1:45:47
  know, even five years ago, like this is, this is a brand new
• 1:45:52
  thing and the fact that games now have like the token-based
• 1:45:57
  have like the same like, you know, transaction-based, you
• 1:46:02
  know, shit. You can buy just like in mobile
• 1:46:04
  game. That pisses me off too.
• 1:46:08
  Oh yeah. It's just like, it's just like
• 1:46:13
  fuck why? It's it's it's because our
• 1:46:17
  Market it's because the industry got to fucking big honestly.
• 1:46:24
  It. it's it's a thing that that is something that people also
• 1:46:30
  should have raged about but because gamergate was more about
• 1:46:38
  kind of Politics and ideology we happily kind of ignored bad
• 1:46:44
  business practices. I remember when DLC first
• 1:46:48
  started coming out, people hated it.
• 1:46:49
  People were fine with expansion packs, it was DLC.
• 1:46:53
  And at some point, it's, I guess with the mobile market in the
• 1:46:56
  mobile market. Moving into eventually consoles
• 1:46:58
  and games and influencing that market as a install base.
• 1:47:04
  Eventually the practices of the gotcha and shit and the rule X,
• 1:47:08
  and loot boxes, came into the rest of everything.
• 1:47:13
  I mean, TF2 had the best intentions when they did it and,
• 1:47:18
  and to their credit Team Fortress 2 in Counter Strike, go
• 1:47:21
  work because the cases are given to you, it's its own weird,
• 1:47:27
  self-esteem nning economy where money is Flowing between people,
• 1:47:31
  and there's money to me, you might spend money but you can
• 1:47:33
  make some And yes, same thing with RuneScape back in the day
• 1:47:40
  room. Yay, I used to play RuneScape
• 1:47:45
  back in the day. Was only like there was a free
• 1:47:49
  version. You could do like massive stuff,
• 1:47:51
  you know on but then like if you wanted to pay it was literally
• 1:47:58
  just five bucks a month and that was it.
• 1:48:01
  And you could get like And you could basically get like a whole
• 1:48:05
  bunch more shit for, you know, for dirt cheap basically.
• 1:48:10
  Yeah. And yeah.
• 1:48:16
  And I'm like that was the way things.
• 1:48:19
  That was the that was the way things used to be.
• 1:48:21
  And now it's like and I mean yeah.
• 1:48:24
  In Ruins came had its own in-game economy.
• 1:48:28
  We're like, yeah, you you basically, there was any way
• 1:48:32
  that you could buy at advantages like you just, you know, you
• 1:48:37
  made money in the in-game economy and that was it, and it
• 1:48:40
  was all, it was all cosmetics. Yeah.
• 1:48:44
  Right. Which I think made it rain.
• 1:48:46
  In tf2's case it was like some gameplay changes and things like
• 1:48:49
  that, but it started as cosmetics and nothing that would
• 1:48:51
  would change, game player, balance it, and now, yeah.
• 1:48:57
  And now and now you've got like, what was the Diablo, something
• 1:49:02
  from mobile? Where, like someone I heard, do
• 1:49:05
  ya like close to, like forty thousand dollars, twenty Thirty
• 1:49:11
  forty thousand dollars some some crazy.
• 1:49:13
  Crazy amount. And he didn't get any rare items
• 1:49:15
  or poles or whatever it was. Jesus.
• 1:49:19
  Yeah. Like I mean it's gambling.
• 1:49:22
  It's at the end of the day, it's gambling but there's it's two
• 1:49:29
  forms, it's either gambling. That helps you get better, which
• 1:49:32
  then your incentivised to gamble.
• 1:49:33
  And it's obviously, a way more predatory tactic of, well, you
• 1:49:37
  can get better the game. If you play this gambling
• 1:49:39
  gaming, give us money, and it'll give you'll see the results.
• 1:49:42
  And then there's just a gambling of.
• 1:49:43
  Oh, I have this obsessive compulsive disorder.
• 1:49:46
  I want all these skins. There's my favorite.
• 1:49:48
  Much right roll. It is just it's just slots.
• 1:49:50
  It's just fucking slots. Yeah well and also I mean I was
• 1:49:56
  talking to a friend about this to with like Call of Duty and
• 1:50:00
  whatnot. I kind of feel like cod and
• 1:50:02
  other first-person shooter games, kind of got ruined
• 1:50:08
  because in multiplayer, always like, I remember you used to
• 1:50:11
  have to like, actually, like what we do up to my, you get
• 1:50:15
  certain guns and, like play matches.
• 1:50:17
  And now I Don't feel too. Yeah.
• 1:50:20
  And now if I and now if like and now if you're rich enough her,
• 1:50:24
  let's be honest, if you if your if your Daddy has a high enough
• 1:50:28
  credit card you can just buy all the Weaponry from like you know,
• 1:50:32
  whichever console stroll or Let me take the hot take on that
• 1:50:38
  one. I hate that fucking system.
• 1:50:40
  I hate the FBS level of them to to hell and back.
• 1:50:44
  I, I would rather kind of be happier to just buy something.
• 1:50:49
  Depending on how much the core game is to just have all the
• 1:50:52
  shit. I want unlocked, that would be
• 1:50:54
  fucking lovely. Because I fucking for weapons
• 1:50:58
  for, like, gameplay tools, you know, that's that irks me.
• 1:51:04
  Right? No.
• 1:51:05
  Yeah I do. I hear you.
• 1:51:08
  I hear you. I what I hear what you're
• 1:51:09
  saying, right? I agree with you completely.
• 1:51:14
  But then, that's the problem because like, if basically,
• 1:51:17
  they're making it so hard that you have to buy shit.
• 1:51:21
  But then like, what's just say, for whatever reason, someone
• 1:51:25
  can't spend the extra money because they've already spent
• 1:51:28
  money on the console, which isn't that, you know, let's
• 1:51:32
  face, that's not cheap but console is, you know, still
• 1:51:36
  money. She's been that you spend money
• 1:51:39
  on, you know, on the game and what not, right.
• 1:51:45
  So if you can't afford the extra, you know, DLC shit, and
• 1:51:49
  you have to play it. Well then you know it's kind of
• 1:51:54
  unfair Advantage. Whereas like you know, what was
• 1:51:59
  at least make things easier so that like it's more.
• 1:52:05
  Equal, I guess or equal opportunity at least.
• 1:52:11
  So the thing is is like it was it was better than the system we
• 1:52:15
  have now because okay, at least everyone could do it and then if
• 1:52:18
  they wanted, they could Prestige or whatever, right?
• 1:52:21
  Um, and it's a microcosm, it was many different things, all the
• 1:52:25
  fuck it once it was stuff that was locked on disk, it was stuff
• 1:52:28
  that you could unlock. So it was stuff, you couldn't
• 1:52:30
  unlock and It. It got to that point, where it
• 1:52:35
  affected, how I felt about video games in general, where I was
• 1:52:43
  like, okay, I'm not really a fan of Battle Royale games, but I'll
• 1:52:47
  try the Final Fantasy 7 one because I like the lore and the
• 1:52:51
  aesthetic. And let's see what it's about
• 1:52:53
  and I play it. And it's got a season pass, and
• 1:52:56
  it's got a premium store and it's got money to sell you to
• 1:52:59
  buy these costumes. And It's all costumes and skins
• 1:53:03
  and everything. So it's, it's And then you play
• 1:53:06
  it and it's just a battle royale game.
• 1:53:08
  It's got some cool mechanics and cool features.
• 1:53:10
  I hate that it's only on mobile because I don't do that.
• 1:53:13
  I don't play games like that. I want on a fucking PC or
• 1:53:16
  console at least and I just dropped the game because there's
• 1:53:20
  nothing. I would just play it for playing
• 1:53:23
  wanting to enjoy. Playing a battle royale game,
• 1:53:25
  I'm not going to try and grind out a season pass for Cosmetics
• 1:53:29
  or tickets to do a gambling wheel.
• 1:53:32
  I don't feel motivation how that I'm not going to go do these
• 1:53:34
  checklist like I Word. That, that is the current state
• 1:53:37
  of Halo, actually, not that long ago that Halo is all about.
• 1:53:42
  People, not even caring who wins the games.
• 1:53:45
  Everyone is just going to go do their little checklists and
• 1:53:48
  play, whatever way instead of playing to win because they want
• 1:53:51
  to get farther in their, in their fucking, in their season
• 1:53:57
  pass. And it was like, I remember when
• 1:54:00
  the game was about winning or losing and playing your best.
• 1:54:05
  Yeah. Now I so speaking of mobile game
• 1:54:10
  in what and what not, this is, this is what's weird, right?
• 1:54:13
  So, when I was a, when I was a kid, I saved up like my one of
• 1:54:21
  my first major purchases like when I was in Middle School,
• 1:54:25
  that I saved up like all my birthday money.
• 1:54:28
  All my Christmas money. All Allowance money or was the
• 1:54:32
  original PlayStation Portable? Oh, I forgot.
• 1:54:38
  I have a modded PSP to the. Can't forget that.
• 1:54:41
  I'm a final things. I've been peace.
• 1:54:45
  No I forgot. I love my PSP so much.
• 1:54:50
  Oh dude. So if you were a kid growing up
• 1:54:54
  in the in the mid odds, right? We don't have, we have smart.
• 1:54:59
  Phones that did everything. So the PSP was the everything
• 1:55:04
  device. Well well yeah, I mean so you
• 1:55:09
  had three devices, right? You had your PSP, you had your
• 1:55:15
  iPod and most yeah, kids had like flip phones or something
• 1:55:19
  like and though, you have three devices that you just never left
• 1:55:24
  home home without right and and what was cool but about the PSP
• 1:55:29
  was you can like, theoretically play games for hours of like the
• 1:55:34
  course multiple days. Has the batter would just last
• 1:55:38
  for hours, right? Yeah.
• 1:55:41
  And and nobody wants in see like I missed, I actually never got
• 1:55:47
  the PS Vita, but that was only because like, I basically wore
• 1:55:50
  my PSP into the ground base. Yeah.
• 1:55:55
  Well I'll say this like II there were points where I would take
• 1:55:59
  the phone and the iPod and the wallet or whatever.
• 1:56:02
  But dude, one side the I can be a sphere.
• 1:56:05
  Just use the PSP for the music device again because I didn't
• 1:56:10
  use that. Store that much music on it
• 1:56:12
  anyway. So yeah.
• 1:56:16
  Yeah. I know that, that that's a fair
• 1:56:17
  point, but, like, I mean, I guess I was doing research
• 1:56:22
  because I was going to see if like Sonia had, like, an
• 1:56:26
  upcoming like, you know, like a handheld and apparently, they
• 1:56:32
  stopped making them all together, which I might've
• 1:56:36
  eaten. Got, cut short video got caught
• 1:56:38
  way short. It did not get the sport needed
• 1:56:40
  as a system. It was another bout of the PS3
• 1:56:46
  Sony and competence era. Was I mean didn't you just
• 1:56:52
  because like well what was interesting was like I because
• 1:56:56
  like I remember like so I remember what the PSP like
• 1:57:00
  everyone had one. Once again.
• 1:57:03
  Yeah, we'll take him out and I was one of the first, like early
• 1:57:06
  adapters to to get it right. Because like I I I remember, I
• 1:57:12
  remember hearing about it when it was in development, right?
• 1:57:16
  Like back in like 2005. And then when it when it came
• 1:57:20
  out, like two years later like I was one of the first people in
• 1:57:22
  line. Yeah.
• 1:57:24
  That at the Target store to get it.
• 1:57:26
  Right. So I remember hearing about it
• 1:57:27
  on on X-Play back in 2003 and they were the early claims of
• 1:57:32
  eight might be able to do portable, PS2 style games.
• 1:57:37
  Yeah. The early.
• 1:57:49
  I remember the early PSP games. You can do open-world goddamn,
• 1:57:53
  did they get, you know, pretty close to doing?
• 1:57:55
  Oh well, I mean as, as they developed on the system, they
• 1:57:59
  really learn to master it. And that's why Liberty City
• 1:58:02
  Stories and vice city. Stories are such a good games on
• 1:58:04
  that system. Yeah.
• 1:58:06
  But I mean I guess so the bsp had like a really great wife
• 1:58:10
  cycle and then the PS Vita. Basically, I got no wife swore.
• 1:58:16
  I get, I guess my problem is Is now is like, everyone's like, oh
• 1:58:20
  well everyone just has phones and, you know, and people game
• 1:58:24
  on the current. Well, the problem with the
• 1:58:26
  problem with that is like, I'm sorry, even if you have, even if
• 1:58:29
  you have a flagship iPhone, or a flagship, Android phones are not
• 1:58:34
  deserve most phones. I should say, are not designed
• 1:58:38
  to be like fully functioning gaming, machines and cl phones,
• 1:58:43
  because the it's a heated issue, you need a gaming phone, if you
• 1:58:46
  want to do serious game, Yeah. Something with an extra fan to
• 1:58:51
  cool it off and power settings and wattages and all that shit.
• 1:58:55
  Yeah, so if you if you use your iPhone for gaming like even on,
• 1:59:01
  even unlike the 13 Promax, or, you know, whatever the flagship
• 1:59:05
  is that you're going to kill your battery pretty fast.
• 1:59:08
  If you do any sort of like, you know, long-term you know,
• 1:59:13
  getting other than like maybe pulling out, you know, Tetris or
• 1:59:16
  something while you're waiting for cop.
• 1:59:18
  Or something like that. But like, my point being is
• 1:59:21
  like, I just don't get why gaming companies stopped making
• 1:59:25
  portable consoles because it seems like there could still be
• 1:59:29
  a mark out there for that. But for what reason everyone
• 1:59:33
  just assumes that you know, Gamers just use don't phones as
• 1:59:37
  well. I can tell you that I can tell
• 1:59:39
  you the actual reason. You one of the actual reason,
• 1:59:44
  why Nintendo? Nintendo dominated the early,
• 1:59:53
  handheld seen when PSP stepped in the ring.
• 1:59:56
  It was some offering something that they weren't doing.
• 1:59:59
  It was offering really competent. 3D better than anyone
• 2:00:02
  else out there, because it were, there were remember there was
• 2:00:05
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• 2:00:13
  the second died. So Sega wasn't going to be
• 2:00:15
  making the Game Gear to or whatever.
• 2:00:19
  And then the DS came out and the DS, kind of had this cool unique
• 2:00:23
  feature but the graphics weren't as great as it PSP.
• 2:00:26
  The PSP was also a media machine and then the 3DS came out and it
• 2:00:33
  started to strangle, hold on, not only the DS Market, what was
• 2:00:39
  left of the Gameboy Market, but this new market, it was creating
• 2:00:44
  it had the Pokemons. It had all this All these
• 2:00:50
  Flagship games. Mario Karts, and all that, and
• 2:00:53
  PSP had a lot of games that have the stuff but as they went into
• 2:00:59
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• 2:01:05
  still in the new 3DS and all everything it did.
• 2:01:09
  The slot. The, the games were not.
• 2:01:17
  Supporting the system they had like Call of Duty, dad Marvel,
• 2:01:20
  they didn't have anything that was like, killer apps that like
• 2:01:24
  mastered and utilized the system super well.
• 2:01:27
  And the touchscreen. It was kind of gimmicky but, you
• 2:01:31
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• 2:01:32
  But there was no, it was lacking.
• 2:01:34
  The multiplayer style, massive phenomenon games and Sony
• 2:01:38
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• 2:01:44
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• 2:01:50
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• 2:01:54
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• 2:01:57
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• 2:02:02
  that but you play Moberly it was the catalog and lack of Support
• 2:02:11
  from first party in Sony to really get good games.
• 2:02:15
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• 2:02:17
  There were absolutely fantastic games on the Vita but the the
• 2:02:21
  kind of things that it needed to really Hold strong with and on
• 2:02:27
  top of it. It was a hacked system.
• 2:02:30
  They it was, it was hacked early, it was hacked off.
• 2:02:33
  And just like the PSP and yeah, they sold, but it really starts
• 2:02:38
  to have an effect. Now, don't get me.
• 2:02:39
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• 2:02:42
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• 2:02:48
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• 2:02:57
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• 2:03:00
  seeing how it receptive and the handheld was still going, but
• 2:03:03
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• 2:03:09
  Was. Undeniably.
• 2:03:15
  Going to dominate the handheld Market.
• 2:03:17
  Yeah, because it wasn't only a good hand held with good
• 2:03:20
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• 2:03:23
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• 2:03:28
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• 2:03:31
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• 2:03:36
  that's impressive. I am opening like something does
• 2:03:40
  come out with something like that in the future, that that's
• 2:03:44
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• 2:03:48
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• 2:03:55
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• 2:03:58
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• 2:04:04
  Yeah, so I don't think they will also because it's the PS5 and
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• 2:04:15
  PS3 too. It is a testament to the ego and
• 2:04:20
  hubris of Sony because they got cocky with the PS4.
• 2:04:26
  And the only reason they fucking dominated with the PS4 is
• 2:04:30
  because Xbox shit the fucking bed.
• 2:04:35
  Yeah, also he had to do was go, hey, guys, here's how you let
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• 2:04:43
  and he just hands him the fucking game done.
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• 2:04:49
  They've won the generation and they fucking did.
• 2:04:53
  And they thought just because they did the normal shit because
• 2:04:55
  they were Have some digital rights bullshit like that or
• 2:04:58
  always online Xbox One first. They saw how it was going to go
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  and they fucking nixed it hours before Sony is just as bad as
• 2:05:06
  any fucking one else, but a lot of it, what's carried them is
• 2:05:11
  eye peas and exclusives to an extent.
• 2:05:16
  The exclusivity deals with like Call of Duty help.
• 2:05:18
  A lot things like that. Only baseball games only being
• 2:05:21
  on PS4 was another big thing. Oh really Why I did not know
• 2:05:27
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• 2:05:29
  GameStop during that era during the associate Dean release era.
• 2:05:33
  Only baseball games are on PS4 see just to kind of okay so my
• 2:05:38
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  like I had I had the PS1 I had the PS2 Oh, oh boy.
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  Oh boy. Connection errors.
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  Oh dear. Are we we still live chat?
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  Oh, dear. Are we still alive?
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• 2:06:17
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• 2:06:36
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• 2:06:46
  Fuck it. Let's let's, let's rip on Square
• 2:06:50
  Enix in their bullshit for a minute, chat.
• 2:06:51
  Shall we? How you doing?
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  My name is zsakeba. I'm from a little city called
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  insomnia and the kingdom of lusus, you can find that world
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  Franchise near and dear to me and God damn it.
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• 2:08:25
  the PlayStation consoles, except for the four and pretty much the
• 2:08:30
  only reason why I never had a forwards because my life
• 2:08:33
  basically just got too busy for gaming.
• 2:08:37
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• 2:08:41
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• 2:08:44
  category. But now you are so like I've
• 2:08:47
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• 2:08:52
  know, ironically with like all the PS4 games that I missed.
• 2:08:58
  So, and also what's your theory on why the PS5 is because like
• 2:09:05
  the one Curtis might one criticism I do have with the S5
• 2:09:10
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• 2:09:15
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  Okay, so what was that? Just another covid thing or what
• 2:09:29
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• 2:09:33
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• 2:09:37
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• 2:09:43
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• 2:09:45
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• 2:09:51
  problem is, is that Even whether or not it was artificially
• 2:09:57
  created scarcity. It you the scarcity only works
• 2:10:06
  if there's really good stuff that people want to play.
• 2:10:11
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• 2:10:16
  lifespan, but more so for launch because those are what help
• 2:10:22
  really move the hardware. It's I mean I've been getting
• 2:10:31
  emails like, oh, here's your invitation to come by a PS5 from
• 2:10:34
  like no. Thanks.
• 2:10:36
  I'm good. Not not at that price.
• 2:10:39
  That's because and I think that's why I met this weird
• 2:10:46
  place with exclusive now where the only reason why I still have
• 2:10:51
  consoles, I think to an extent is because there are certain
• 2:10:55
  games. You just can't easily replay on.
• 2:10:58
  It's not been ported or anything like that or they were console
• 2:11:02
  exclusive like Metal Gear, Solid, 4 and things like that or
• 2:11:06
  blood-borne like bloodborne's PS4.
• 2:11:08
  You can't play blood-borne on peasy.
• 2:11:10
  It's just I mean you can stream it but then you have some input
• 2:11:14
  latency lagaathaar by using PS now and then you don't get Of
• 2:11:19
  the DLC and the DLC is some of the best content in the game.
• 2:11:24
  Yeah. Like my PS4 was bought Because I
• 2:11:29
  had moved in with a dude, I had met on Craigslist, and he had a
• 2:11:33
  PS4 and I said, hey, man, there's this game that's like,
• 2:11:37
  coming out that kind of excited for you.
• 2:11:39
  Think I could maybe, like, use your PS4, somehow, I'll give you
• 2:11:42
  20, 30 40, fucking box, or by my fucking beer, whatever.
• 2:11:45
  It's like, yeah, man were so obviously it was he used my TV
• 2:11:51
  on his PS4 was hooked up. He has his TV in his room so I
• 2:11:56
  use that to play Blood. Because blood-borne was one of
• 2:12:00
  the games. I really want to play on PS4 and
• 2:12:03
  I fell in love, right? I fell in hard love and then
• 2:12:08
  death stranding came out. and, Just ranting was fantastic.
• 2:12:17
  I fell in love with this friending.
• 2:12:18
  I think it's a masterpiece of a game.
• 2:12:21
  That's not for everyone. But that then went to PS do that
• 2:12:27
  then went to BC so fuck. Okay.
• 2:12:29
  Should you got the extended directors?
• 2:12:31
  Got on on PS 52, but for me, At that point, then the PS4 really
• 2:12:38
  only became it went from being a blood-borne death, stranding
• 2:12:42
  machine, kind of a Final Fantasy 7.
• 2:12:49
  What did what is part remake Final Fantasy 7 remake machine.
• 2:12:54
  But that I played remake and I don't want ever touch it again.
• 2:12:57
  Des training came out on PC, so it's back to being a blood-borne
• 2:13:01
  machine. And then came the opportunity to
• 2:13:04
  hack it. And I'm like well.
• 2:13:08
  I do kind of like playing blood-borne online but the stuff
• 2:13:12
  I can get from Act V as for so much better.
• 2:13:15
  So, I got the blood-borne Alpha. I got the Eldon ring Network
• 2:13:18
  test. I got PT out of it.
• 2:13:20
  I there is nothing for me to want to be part of the Sony
• 2:13:24
  ecosystem, other than one game and for a console, I would hope
• 2:13:29
  that's not the case. And it's weird because I never
• 2:13:34
  thought in my life, I would like, I would only go back when
• 2:13:37
  the Wii U is coming out. People will call it the
• 2:13:39
  Bayonetta box because Bayo 2 is on it, or they would call the
• 2:13:42
  Xbox One. The Killer Instinct box?
• 2:13:46
  Yeah. Then I found myself in that
• 2:13:48
  position and it's kind of that same thing.
• 2:13:51
  Now, where, And there were games, like slept on, like the
• 2:13:55
  PS4 Ratchet and Clank game and stuff like that.
• 2:13:58
  But with the PS5, I look at it. And we've been God, what?
• 2:14:02
  Over a year now of release. Yeah, well, over a year of
• 2:14:06
  release, the only games I can think of are Ratchet and Clank.
• 2:14:11
  Demon Souls remastered. and, Is there another exclusive PS5
• 2:14:19
  game? Yeah, there are.
• 2:14:24
  There are there are a few actually or there are few there
• 2:14:28
  are few that aren't out yet but they're coming up.
• 2:14:31
  So my favorite title and this was originally why I really
• 2:14:35
  wanted over. He has for was insomniacs
• 2:14:40
  Spider-Man which was fuck. Oh my God, I'm so stupid.
• 2:14:44
  Yeah yeah. and a And, you know, and a gaming them, like holy
• 2:14:59
  shit, like the the the the version of Spider-Man that they
• 2:15:05
  have on the PlayStation is what they needed, is what they needed
• 2:15:10
  to do with Spider-Man. In the end in the MCU, I'm sorry
• 2:15:15
  to the MCU fans out there, but like the PS4 Spider-Man is so
• 2:15:21
  much better as a character than the MCU it It's one of the best
• 2:15:26
  Peter Parker's. It's one of the best brokers
• 2:15:29
  easy and, and I loved Spiderman going back to the first PS1
• 2:15:33
  game. Oh, yeah.
• 2:15:35
  Now, that was where I got started with Spider-Man games.
• 2:15:37
  I fucking love that. Yes.
• 2:15:40
  Well, and that was the other thing was like, those games are
• 2:15:43
  all actually based on the comics, not based on.
• 2:15:46
  I mean, technically, yes, I know the movies are also based on the
• 2:15:49
  comics but like, for a while, the Spider-Man games were just
• 2:15:53
  only based on the movie, it was Pre movie.
• 2:15:56
  It was, it was, it was pre her first taste of Tobey Maguire
• 2:16:00
  Spider-Man. Yeah.
• 2:16:01
  Well, and then that will and then that was the other thing
• 2:16:04
  back in the day to was like, you never wanted to play the video
• 2:16:07
  game until you saw the movie because the the game would
• 2:16:12
  spoil. The retail, the movie?
• 2:16:14
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:16:17
  But but now like I remember I remember like, I want to get a
• 2:16:23
  PS4 at the time so I could play spider an exclusively.
• 2:16:26
  That was that was another exclusive and when it was an
• 2:16:30
  exclusive it was one of the best on the system.
• 2:16:33
  I agree. Yeah.
• 2:16:35
  Oh wait. It's not exclusive anymore.
• 2:16:38
  It's coming to PC. Oh and Miles Morales.
• 2:16:43
  Well, Well yeah, II, although I think I think Spider-Man 2
• 2:16:52
  because they're coming out with Spider-Man.
• 2:16:54
  Oh, you know. Yeah, Spider-Man it might it
• 2:16:58
  might be, it might be a console launch, exclusive first.
• 2:17:02
  Yes, like ff7 was Aha. But like my I wanted it.
• 2:17:14
  I wanted a PS4. And then looking at the price it
• 2:17:16
  was like, well, I might as well wait for a PS5 because they're
• 2:17:20
  basically the same price in this one is newer, which is weird
• 2:17:25
  because I was like, I was like, oh, great, I'll wait for
• 2:17:28
  everyone to get a PS5 and then I was gonna get like a I'll just
• 2:17:31
  got PS4 all and only be one generation behind, but then it
• 2:17:35
  Like, nope. You might have like that the new
• 2:17:38
  console because it's the same price as the The old one, which
• 2:17:45
  is fear. So it's yeah.
• 2:17:50
  So nice just bad about so he's just bad business.
• 2:17:53
  Sometimes. What can I say?
• 2:17:55
  Well it's well that's kind of point though is from what I've
• 2:17:59
  kind of gathered coming back to gaming.
• 2:18:01
  After all these years, it kind of seems like maybe entire
• 2:18:04
  gaming industry. It seems like far as large as
• 2:18:08
  the gaming industry, is the entire thing has kind of shit
• 2:18:11
  the bed. Almost I mean, that's the only
• 2:18:17
  one. What has it is been 10 to?
• 2:18:18
  I mean, the tendo's Nintendo on that fucking scumbag yahooza,
• 2:18:22
  basically, but there they have a very high install base and very
• 2:18:29
  high player base. Their fans are rabid.
• 2:18:32
  They are loyal, they have massive exclusives.
• 2:18:35
  You can only get on the system and it moves the consoles, and
• 2:18:38
  people play these games together and they want to get in on it
• 2:18:41
  and it's that old. The thing is Is to is because
• 2:18:45
  think of it, like this couch Co-op.
• 2:18:47
  Barely exists for PS, PlayStation and Xbox.
• 2:18:51
  Right. Barely exists.
• 2:18:53
  Yeah, you you can't be, you really can't.
• 2:18:56
  Because again, P2P now requires PS plus, which pisses me off.
• 2:19:01
  But, yeah, that's a. So, let me, let me rephrase you
• 2:19:06
  then in the ways that the young ones, may not know exactly how
• 2:19:10
  it was for us, but those on Nintendo still do.
• 2:19:13
  Because the switch is a portable system, so they take out, they
• 2:19:17
  play Pokemon locally with their friends in person, they play
• 2:19:21
  games over local co-op in person, they cook up multiple
• 2:19:25
  controllers to one fucking screen and play next to each
• 2:19:28
  other. There is something within
• 2:19:30
  Nintendo that has been able to find that market of the cross
• 2:19:36
  between gameplay and person as well as a semi Shady network
• 2:19:40
  service. But each set They still support
• 2:19:45
  communication. So you know, you have all these
• 2:19:49
  kids who they fucking play Monster Hunter on their switch,
• 2:19:53
  or they play Pokemon on their switch and they play with each
• 2:19:55
  other at school and all this and You get that much higher install
• 2:20:01
  base, then you would with a PS4 or Xbox because there's more on
• 2:20:07
  top of the portability and things like that.
• 2:20:10
  Yeah, there. Yeah, there was something
• 2:20:12
  something needed to be said, for all for all that man, so can
• 2:20:16
  argue that I'd say, and that's the only reason why I think they
• 2:20:20
  aren't shitting. The bed, is that they've they've
• 2:20:22
  still got that that edge to them because PS4 or PSN and Xbox are
• 2:20:27
  just getting. So, So close to PCS now that it
• 2:20:31
  and with Studios releasing stuff on PC.
• 2:20:34
  Well, you know, Xbox with the game pass and PS4 with their, or
• 2:20:38
  Playstation with their PC development studio.
• 2:20:42
  Now, I don't know how the markets going to look for those
• 2:20:47
  two Nintendo's going to be doing in 10.
• 2:20:49
  Do I don't know about. What's what's weird though?
• 2:20:53
  Also with like PC releases is like And maybe it's not the case
• 2:20:59
  now. But like, I remember when I was
• 2:21:00
  a kid and even just like, a few years ago, like like if you buy
• 2:21:04
  game for PC, like more often than not, they were, they were
• 2:21:09
  notoriously broken. Like a prime example was as we
• 2:21:13
  talked about a few weeks ago. Well, I mean This may be kind of
• 2:21:19
  a bad example, because the game was just broken overall, but
• 2:21:23
  cyberpunk 2049 was Brooke was just stroking.
• 2:21:28
  Wait, which one over? Cyberpunk 2049.
• 2:21:33
  You mean 2077? Yeah.
• 2:21:35
  Oh yeah, 2077. So I'm thinking.
• 2:21:38
  Okay, I was thinking about thinking of the stupid white
• 2:21:41
  Runner sequel. Oh yeah.
• 2:21:43
  Yeah the paper. We do a cyberpunk red goddamn.
• 2:21:50
  Let's do it. Oh shit.
• 2:21:54
  That that game was selectively broken.
• 2:21:56
  I put in over 110 hours. I love that game.
• 2:21:59
  It's one of my favorite games of all.
• 2:22:00
  Him and it was not broken for me at all.
• 2:22:04
  I know it was real bad on Console, I feel real bad for the
• 2:22:06
  console people. But PC was from what?
• 2:22:10
  I remember a mixed bag I bought. That's why I bought physical.
• 2:22:13
  I bought my copy of cyberpunk physical from Best Buy.
• 2:22:18
  Yeah, that was that was that was probably a smart.
• 2:22:21
  I think one of one of my he's probably not watching but one of
• 2:22:25
  my one of my Subs who out who I stream with on occasion some
• 2:22:30
  pre-loaded, I remember he bought cyberpunk 2077 on PC and I
• 2:22:36
  remember he tried to do a stream of him playing it and he right
• 2:22:42
  he rage quit the stream and it was actually Justified because
• 2:22:46
  because the game Shit the bed. And he and I guess it was
• 2:22:51
  working like prior to him loading the stream and then,
• 2:22:54
  yeah, it's just He had everything, it said it perfectly
• 2:22:58
  and it just I do consider myself lucky.
• 2:23:03
  I don't know how I had. I had a mid power rain, like a
• 2:23:06
  mid strength PC, so I don't know how I managed to hit that
• 2:23:12
  beautiful in between where my experience was pretty bug free
• 2:23:16
  and no glitches and no major problems.
• 2:23:18
  And mostly, I was okay. And I didn't notice any key
• 2:23:22
  problems because I just, it was like, dude, wake up 8?
• 2:23:26
  H, 9 hours cyberpunk, go to sleep.
• 2:23:28
  Wake up eight hours, announced by the cyberpunk, go to sleep,
• 2:23:31
  wake up. It was one of those games.
• 2:23:33
  Um, oh yeah. So it's but there are it for
• 2:23:39
  consoles. It's absolutely atrocious.
• 2:23:42
  What happened? And the thing is, there are PC
• 2:23:45
  games that do get kind of released bad, but you see it
• 2:23:48
  more often on Console because for PC, they always like to use
• 2:23:51
  Early Access. Yeah.
• 2:23:53
  Well, no, I remember Because I'm because I missed out on the PS
• 2:23:59
  because I'm a PS4. I still had a PC at the time
• 2:24:03
  when I first moved to Florida. So I was gonna I was gonna try
• 2:24:08
  and buy Batman Arkham Knight at the time when it came out for
• 2:24:12
  the PC and then they actually pulled the PC release because it
• 2:24:17
  was so Broken. And I did.
• 2:24:21
  Yeah, I remember that. And I don't think they actually
• 2:24:24
  released it. So ironically like I had to
• 2:24:26
  wait, you know, close to seven years to play it, but I finally
• 2:24:30
  be Arkham Knight and I know I know that people share on that
• 2:24:35
  as like the worst in the franchise but it's it's still
• 2:24:40
  good Batman game and it's the it's the one we're going to have
• 2:24:43
  for a while because Arkham because Gotham Knights or
• 2:24:47
  whatever it is is in development hell right now.
• 2:24:51
  So yeah. That is not some game stuck in
• 2:24:55
  development hell right now. Yeah.
• 2:24:58
  GTA stuck in development. Hell right now.
• 2:25:00
  Yeah. So, so what and checked about a
• 2:25:03
  good point earlier. He says never pre-order games
• 2:25:07
  because that's a disaster. And yeah, I think we oh God.
• 2:25:12
  Yeah. Arkham City was one of those
• 2:25:16
  games that had like, notoriously bad pre-order.
• 2:25:23
  Problems. I hate pre-order bonuses.
• 2:25:25
  I think it's it's I think it's the worst.
• 2:25:28
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:25:30
  If you if there's a game you end up liking and are some that was
• 2:25:33
  a pre-order bonus and you're not playing on hacked console and
• 2:25:36
  you can't unlock it in any way you are screwed and it is.
• 2:25:38
  The worst thing is, all you want is to just have every that's why
• 2:25:42
  I like Elden rings. So goddamn much.
• 2:25:45
  I paid $60, I downloaded the video game.
• 2:25:48
  Everything in the video game was able for me to obtain.
• 2:25:53
  Yep. Yeah I know in regards the whole
• 2:25:57
  DLC shit. What we're doing is like I
• 2:26:01
  remember one DLC. First came out, it was cool.
• 2:26:05
  It was cool because like you would have a completed, you
• 2:26:08
  would have like a complete game on its own right during the PS3
• 2:26:12
  era and then like this was early on in the PS3, our as well, you
• 2:26:18
  would have like you would have you would have a complete game.
• 2:26:22
  But then you wouldn't have liked but then you would have the DLC,
• 2:26:26
  which would be, which would be like extra stuff view one and it
• 2:26:31
  would be like mostly be optional and that and now there are games
• 2:26:35
  were like the game is incomplete without the DLC and it's like I
• 2:26:41
  mean it depends on on for what kind of person and what they
• 2:26:44
  kind of want it it I think the biggest slap in the fucking face
• 2:26:50
  was when street fight. our cross Tekken released there were I
• 2:26:54
  think they were pre-order characters or the first DLC
• 2:26:57
  characters and they were on the discs data, but you had to buy
• 2:27:02
  that extra seven dollars to unlock the code for the thing on
• 2:27:06
  the disk that was locked from you that if you in, in twenty,
• 2:27:11
  Thirty forty years when you hook up fucking, when you hook up at
• 2:27:16
  360 and you can try to connect it to the net, you can you you
• 2:27:21
  boot up street fight Across second because you're an insane
• 2:27:23
  person living in 2050, playing Street Fighter, cross Tekken
• 2:27:28
  you're going to have characters on that disk that you will never
• 2:27:31
  unlock and never kind of Lock. And that is the shittiest
• 2:27:34
  fucking thing in the world. You you also want to know what
• 2:27:38
  shitty to is speaking of bad gang companies is so ironically
• 2:27:47
  just like everything else Star Wars, like LucasArts, the game
• 2:27:52
  coming to use, be used to be good.
• 2:27:55
  And then when and then when Disney bought it, just like
• 2:27:57
  everything Star Wars and all went to shit.
• 2:28:00
  Because as I and I think you and I you and I might have you might
• 2:28:06
  Then one had this conversation with but like I had to I had to
• 2:28:11
  explain to one of the neighbor kids that like no Batman
• 2:28:17
  Battlefront 2. No, no, there's no, no, no kid.
• 2:28:22
  There was a, there was a different version of battle real
• 2:28:26
  Battlefront 2, when I was a kid and it was actually good and it
• 2:28:31
  was actually good. Yeah, it wasn't as graphically
• 2:28:35
  impressive, but you could you could do more in that game,
• 2:28:41
  actually. Yeah, which is, which was the
• 2:28:46
  case for. That's, that's why.
• 2:28:48
  When that's why when People talk out.
• 2:28:50
  Oh, an icy though, the Old Republic remake is coming.
• 2:28:54
  I'm like, I'm like I'm like dear God, please.
• 2:29:00
  No, I remember hearing them hiring a writer and the writer
• 2:29:04
  saying that she like hates Star Wars fans or some stupid shit or
• 2:29:08
  being out of these kinds of people and we don't don't touch
• 2:29:11
  the fucking writing. Yeah, well, well it's well, it's
• 2:29:16
  the same person who wrote the high Star Wars, the higher
• 2:29:19
  public who was like, it was like I hate Star Wars.
• 2:29:23
  It was like, this is Star Wars not meant for Star Wars fans and
• 2:29:27
  it's like, it's like what? Again again, this is going back
• 2:29:34
  to like, the whole game. I get a thing of like, okay, why
• 2:29:38
  are you riding Star Wars shit? If you're not into Star Wars,
• 2:29:42
  like Why? If you want to hijack, some
• 2:29:46
  vents not theirs and spread a fucking message, or it's all my
• 2:29:52
  God. So, I guess to rewind on this
• 2:29:56
  whole thing just gamergate still matter.
• 2:29:58
  Yeah. Cuz they're still pushing
• 2:30:00
  bullshit down our throats and affecting creators and how they
• 2:30:04
  create things. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:30:07
  Now see, the problem is now is like everyone everyone in
• 2:30:11
  gamergate. Except for Jim, he I mean, I
• 2:30:16
  don't want to seem like I'm sucking.
• 2:30:17
  Daddy, hold on. Hold on.
• 2:30:19
  I need to, I need to, I need to correct.
• 2:30:20
  There is no gamergate anymore. That is a dead fucking movement,
• 2:30:23
  but the remnants of the people who were a part of, I know what
• 2:30:26
  you mean. Yeah.
• 2:30:28
  Yeah, well yeah. Well yeah the right the remnants
• 2:30:31
  of gamergate seem to mostly be dysfunctional except for Jim
• 2:30:36
  who's Arthur laughing in the corner?
• 2:30:38
  Sterculia anything and never have any I mean that's how Jim
• 2:30:42
  was when he walked away he walked away saying fuck you
• 2:30:45
  laughing because it was it was it the grift ruined what the
• 2:30:52
  movement was about and that's a you know that's why he didn't
• 2:30:56
  like drifting it Because he understood like it also affects
• 2:31:00
  things like that but it's like now it's like it's already too
• 2:31:03
  fucking late. They're in games, they're in
• 2:31:06
  comic books are in movies, they are in Blue's Clues there.
• 2:31:10
  In children's television, running Pride parades on Blue's
• 2:31:14
  Clues. It's my God.
• 2:31:17
  We're in the clown world, where in the fucking clown worldly?
• 2:31:20
  There's, there's no reason to even.
• 2:31:23
  Yeah, I've got it. Yeah, I've got to share some
• 2:31:27
  stuff with you about that. Once we're off are too, but it's
• 2:31:32
  gotten, it's gotten bad, but in all we all we can do is hope
• 2:31:38
  that that shit that that things get better, but it doesn't seem
• 2:31:44
  likely because of these people who are getting into these
• 2:31:46
  positions who are part of Academia, who have been taught,
• 2:31:50
  this kind of fucking mindset. That's why you'll have a thing
• 2:31:53
  where you'll have The transsexual fucking the dude, or
• 2:31:58
  the dude, fucking the transsexual in The Last of Us,
• 2:32:00
  Part 2, and that's okay to play uncensored in America on PS4.
• 2:32:04
  But in Devil May Cry. You better have a beam of light,
• 2:32:07
  that sensors, the ass of the hot chick.
• 2:32:11
  Or her breasts God forbid. Yeah, what the fuck?
• 2:32:14
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:32:16
  They for they forced North American censorship for DMC 5 to
• 2:32:20
  cover ass crack and and I think will be cleavage.
• 2:32:25
  But meanwhile, a dude is fucking Raylan.
• 2:32:29
  A transsexual in The Last of Us Part to the same one that killed
• 2:32:32
  the same one that killed the person that everybody loved from
• 2:32:36
  The Last of Us, One. And, and got I, that is the
• 2:32:40
  perfect fucking metaphor for all of it.
• 2:32:43
  A be beaten Joel over the head. With a golf club is a perfect
• 2:32:45
  metaphor for how things feel nowadays.
• 2:32:49
  Yeah, yeah. It's really, it's just really
• 2:32:52
  sad and it's just really sad and enroll in really tragic.
• 2:32:56
  And people say, oh no, there's no, there's no agenda, none of
• 2:33:00
  this is agenda based. You're all just transphobic and
• 2:33:04
  homophobic and asked and it's like, yeah.
• 2:33:07
  Yeah, I'm going to feel. They have to do one thing or
• 2:33:17
  another, when creating a type of fucking character.
• 2:33:21
  Yeah, Jim talked about it about the person that bitched at the
• 2:33:23
  Japanese dude and Dragon's Crown.
• 2:33:26
  Who, who said that the giant titty, Which lady the tall?
• 2:33:31
  Giant teddy. Which meant that you like
• 2:33:34
  fucking child porn shit. Like it's Pull clutching virtue
• 2:33:39
  signaling in the worst fucking regard.
• 2:33:41
  And I it it does affect these companies because it affects the
• 2:33:47
  money. And so that's why you see,
• 2:33:49
  Capcom saying, let's stay away from Zelda and Mario Style
• 2:33:53
  rolled and let's look towards Last of Us Part 2.
• 2:33:56
  In life is strange to hit for the lgbtq representation
• 2:34:02
  demographic. Yeah and it's like again do
• 2:34:07
  those people were like I mean I guess sure some of them play a
• 2:34:11
  game but it's like are you even appealing to a market that plays
• 2:34:15
  the game? I mean that's the thing that
• 2:34:18
  person that bitched about the design and saying, you know,
• 2:34:22
  crazy shit. They probably don't play the
• 2:34:26
  game. They probably mean, most of the
• 2:34:27
  people that is probably fucking don't, but they're the ones that
• 2:34:30
  make their voice hurt. Just like back in the old days
• 2:34:33
  of broadcast television, the the oh, think of the children, mom
• 2:34:37
  groups. Yeah.
• 2:34:40
  Yeah. It's just, it's just like that.
• 2:34:44
  Yeah, that cause bullshit with radio, that caused bullshit with
• 2:34:46
  TV that were the whole reason that the 90s counterculture
• 2:34:51
  started. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:34:54
  And and And the the sad thing is, is now all the 90s
• 2:34:58
  counterculture, people will not all of them, but the vast
• 2:35:00
  majority of them, like, Howard. Stern are the same ones who are
• 2:35:03
  like wear masks, you, you fucking weird.
• 2:35:08
  You fucking, you know, from supporting hater.
• 2:35:11
  You know, everybody is so political and I don't, I don't
• 2:35:17
  mind political games. I love Metal Gear, Solid, those
• 2:35:20
  cancer political as fuck, like, you could even once a fucking
• 2:35:25
  Final Fantasy, has some political elements in it, right?
• 2:35:30
  But sure. Does it mean they can't be
• 2:35:32
  entertaining, but not everything has to be it and not Not
• 2:35:37
  everybody involved with the hobby, has to talk about it or
• 2:35:40
  care about it. You know, the other thing is
• 2:35:43
  like, someone brought this point up to is like always jokes and
• 2:35:47
  like, pop culture references to Trump that, you know, like, like
• 2:35:52
  we know now because their cultural element but like think
• 2:35:55
  20, you know, 30 years down the line, like, when our kids
• 2:35:59
  theoretically art, you know, are playing these games.
• 2:36:02
  Like a lot of these inside jokes, they're not going to get
• 2:36:06
  it all. Because because you know,
• 2:36:09
  because the time has passed and you know, son the some of these
• 2:36:15
  references are just like so my new that they're not they just a
• 2:36:21
  lot of this. A lot of this current culture
• 2:36:24
  stuff is not going to age well in the future.
• 2:36:28
  No, it's not going to be entertaining, it's going it's
• 2:36:31
  going to be looked at in the same way that early or That 80's
• 2:36:36
  culture presented itself in media through a clean sanitize
• 2:36:39
  lens. When we all know, it wasn't that
• 2:36:42
  led into the 90s that started that kind of Kickstarter the can
• 2:36:45
  fucking WWE man like before the Attitude Era.
• 2:36:50
  It was all fucking take your vitamins holsters and then
• 2:36:56
  fucking we hit the hit, the attitude are and you're getting
• 2:37:00
  fucking dick chops from Degeneration, X and shit, you
• 2:37:02
  know? Yeah, it's that same shit and I
• 2:37:07
  think we're at the point now where it's just the ones kind of
• 2:37:11
  pushing the sanitized or think of the children in any sort of
• 2:37:14
  way or this that and the other, you gotta teach me on where any
• 2:37:16
  of this shit. Is just the most aggressive form
• 2:37:22
  of these mom groups because they take up such a massive part of
• 2:37:25
  the Public Square. That is the internet.
• 2:37:28
  And considering that the internet is not a true Public
• 2:37:30
  Square in which people can just be taken out at a whim.
• 2:37:35
  The ones who don't get banned or the ones, who speak the loudest,
• 2:37:38
  and the ones who speak the loudest of the ones, who get
• 2:37:40
  noticed, and the ones who get noticed are the ones who shape,
• 2:37:43
  how these companies? Now, this shit goes forward
• 2:37:45
  until the money hits and they're like, it ain't worth it.
• 2:37:50
  Yeah, I know, like eat it like it.
• 2:37:52
  I hate to say it, but like, even on things like disc or like, I
• 2:37:56
  have, to be honest man. I've been banned from Discord
• 2:37:59
  like three different times, just over one of them.
• 2:38:04
  The first time I got banned wasn't wasn't for anything.
• 2:38:09
  Even really that bad. I got banned because I was in, I
• 2:38:12
  was in the get, I was in a server that like I was in the
• 2:38:18
  server, that was like somewhat tied to Gavin McInnes, it wasn't
• 2:38:21
  tied to the, it wasn't tied to the proud, boys.
• 2:38:25
  I want to state that clearly for the record.
• 2:38:28
  It was not tied to the Bad Boys. It was simply a, it was simply a
• 2:38:33
  Discord were like, people who watched his podcast on on
• 2:38:38
  compound back in the day, could like hang out.
• 2:38:42
  But because it was Gavin McGinnis.
• 2:38:45
  And because the Because of the George Floyd thing.
• 2:38:49
  Not only did they shut down the Discord.
• 2:38:52
  They permabanned everyone's account was in the who was in
• 2:38:57
  the Discord, so like I had to DM Apex, unfortunately, like I had
• 2:39:03
  his cell phone number by then, so like I actually could text
• 2:39:07
  him and say, hey man, I got you eat it off of, you know, up this
• 2:39:12
  court in my my whole entire account is gone Um, so and and
• 2:39:18
  then, and then again, my second Discord got you needed because I
• 2:39:24
  was in a, I was in a Discord where I like someone used a
• 2:39:27
  racial epithet and I was the one that did it, but because I was
• 2:39:32
  in a server where happened the whole thing again got.
• 2:39:37
  So now it's guilt by association and at least with Discord, like
• 2:39:43
  you basically can't appeal shit like.
• 2:39:46
  You can, but they'll basically, it's pointless.
• 2:39:50
  They'll basically Jo fuck you, basically.
• 2:39:54
  Yeah. Pretty much.
• 2:39:57
  So yeah, my type gym. I musti, I miss the old
• 2:40:00
  internet. One people didn't take
• 2:40:01
  themselves, so seriously. Oh yeah.
• 2:40:04
  I miss pre net 2.0. Those were good days.
• 2:40:09
  Yeah, and now, in regards to this, whole, nft thing, I'm
• 2:40:13
  sorry, but web, three. I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm someone
• 2:40:19
  who's pretty technically Savvy, but even I don't understand what
• 2:40:22
  the fuck is going on with. There's so much smoke sis Look
• 2:40:26
  in mirrors, I don't know. I mean, we're still let me
• 2:40:30
  wrong. We're still in the fucking
• 2:40:31
  infancy of the internet even though it's been 20 fucking
• 2:40:34
  years or more well, who knows how much worse it's going to
• 2:40:39
  get. I hope Jimbo is a little too
• 2:40:41
  black build for his own good and we don't go to real ID.
• 2:40:45
  But man, I see if possible. Yeah, I know the well and that
• 2:40:52
  was the other. That was the other interesting
• 2:40:54
  thing about about that interview to that might occur did was the
• 2:40:59
  real ID thing is like that. Something like 10 years ago
• 2:41:06
  people would have never said, oh that'll ever happen but with the
• 2:41:10
  way, yeah, gone. I'm just like, yeah, I hope that
• 2:41:15
  doesn't happen but there's a very real possibility that it
• 2:41:19
  might have China. China is what happens when you
• 2:41:24
  get that Europe is what happens when you get that they're
• 2:41:28
  they're dudes who you can't sign up for Discord.
• 2:41:33
  If you're under 13 and the government connects your ID to
• 2:41:35
  your internet, so they know that you're not 13.
• 2:41:37
  So you can't just sign up for Twitter or whatever like it's
• 2:41:40
  some insane shit. Yeah.
• 2:41:44
  And and that's the thing is like, it's anonymity is good.
• 2:41:52
  It allows for that whole fucking thing, but it just allows In
• 2:41:56
  some ways for people to be more honest, it doesn't hurt.
• 2:41:59
  It doesn't it's that same kind of reactionary think of the
• 2:42:02
  children or for your safety and this that and the other and
• 2:42:06
  don't get me wrong, I understand some things are for my safety
• 2:42:08
  and some are you know I'll take him to leave it here and there
• 2:42:12
  but in terms of like and maybe it's just because it's the
• 2:42:16
  fucking world, I came up and and it's going to be more easier to
• 2:42:21
  change that mindset with the generations that grow up if you
• 2:42:24
  slowly implement it properly. But for me and how I came up, I
• 2:42:29
  already give away too much of my anonymity online.
• 2:42:32
  Just, yeah. Drew through logs and shit.
• 2:42:35
  No, say no same here. Well, listen, as I, as I explain
• 2:42:39
  to people, the whole reason why I have the whole reason why I, I
• 2:42:47
  have my face online, wasn't because I'm stupid.
• 2:42:53
  It's because when I started doing political, And Terry that
• 2:42:58
  was kind of thing that I wanted did online, you know, you could
• 2:43:02
  actually be online and talk politics and use your real name
• 2:43:11
  and plant when it get. And people wouldn't, in fact,
• 2:43:14
  was kind of like one of those things where, like, if you had a
• 2:43:17
  goofy, like if you had a goofy like pen name online, like
• 2:43:21
  people wouldn't take you seriously.
• 2:43:24
  If you were sure. Right.
• 2:43:27
  So it was kind of like if you want to try it for a publication
• 2:43:32
  or something like that you couldn't use them.
• 2:43:35
  You couldn't use like gay man, 95 or anything like that, right?
• 2:43:38
  Because people would be like, people would be like, who's
• 2:43:42
  this? You know, get him out of here
• 2:43:44
  personalized like the old names in a Nintendo Power in egm and
• 2:43:48
  shit where the reviewers would have, like Hindi handles or
• 2:43:51
  whatever. It was just a way to like blend
• 2:43:54
  in different Riders. Her different shit, right?
• 2:43:59
  But I mean, I guarantee you that like if I, you know, if I
• 2:44:02
  started this now. Oh yeah.
• 2:44:04
  I probably definitely like you know, be more Anonymous and have
• 2:44:07
  like you know just for shits and grinned.
• 2:44:09
  Like I have thought of like making make an avatar even even
• 2:44:13
  though everyone knows I am just like kind of creating a Persona
• 2:44:17
  as like yeah, that's like a cyborg man or something, I don't
• 2:44:20
  know. But anyway, so Apex never showed
• 2:44:27
  up for ya. Fucking the punk.
• 2:44:31
  What the fuck? We do.
• 2:44:33
  Got some gaming news if you want to go through here at the tail
• 2:44:35
  end. Sure sure.
• 2:44:38
  Okay. So, first up Final Fantasy, 10
• 2:44:42
  series shipments and digital sales top 20 point eight
• 2:44:47
  million. So this concludes with Final
• 2:44:51
  Fantasy tens, original series and the Final Fantasy 10.
• 2:44:55
  HD remaster that has been on PS3 Vita switch.
• 2:45:00
  PC, Xbox PS4, everything. Every modern console can go on
• 2:45:07
  nothing crazy about it just says that's a lot of.
• 2:45:09
  That's a lot of you. That's a lot of F10 and I love
• 2:45:12
  me so Final Fantasy 10, I think. Yeah Final Fantasy. 10 is
• 2:45:16
  probably my favorite like top to bottom.
• 2:45:21
  Seven was kind of my first real dip into Final Fantasy.
• 2:45:24
  See, but ten hit me so hard that even to this day, there are
• 2:45:28
  scenes that game that will absolutely make me break down
• 2:45:31
  and cry. It is I still look at that game
• 2:45:35
  going. Wow, this game looks really good
• 2:45:38
  and I'm playing it on my PS2. You know what I mean?
• 2:45:42
  Yeah, yeah. I know that.
• 2:45:44
  That's how I feel about the Max Payne series.
• 2:45:48
  Oh, yeah. And Max Payne 2 is also one of
• 2:45:50
  those things that aged so gracefully.
• 2:45:55
  Absolutely well. Yeah but but but my God my God
• 2:45:59
  doesn't need a remaster anyway. Continuing on it had a PC
• 2:46:04
  release. So continue on Yakuza eight.
• 2:46:10
  We have seen the first off Screen development footage and
• 2:46:13
  Japanese fighter, mikuru asakura is slated to appear.
• 2:46:19
  I'm a big fan of the Yakuza, otherwise known as you got.
• 2:46:23
  Go through coup in Japanese which Seems like a dragon which
• 2:46:26
  is where they've decided to rename the RPG side of that
• 2:46:29
  game, for whatever reason, or I think was yaku's like a dragon
• 2:46:35
  instead of the seventh game. But they've announced are shown
• 2:46:39
  off that they're working on 8 and that they're going to have a
• 2:46:44
  particular fighter they are showing some more returning
• 2:46:46
  characters and yeah very cool. I am a big, a big fan of that
• 2:46:52
  series, it's a great beat em up. Open World beat em up.
• 2:46:55
  Genre it turned into a great RPG and it uses always uses a great
• 2:47:00
  actors. It has great graphic Tech.
• 2:47:03
  There's a fucking scene in seven where the dude, eat some bread
• 2:47:07
  and it is the fucking craziest bread eating physics.
• 2:47:10
  You have ever seen in your goddamn life in a video game.
• 2:47:13
  It is amazing. Wow, this is bad dude, because
• 2:47:19
  you look at Li you look at how he's eating the bread and have a
• 2:47:22
  b are going and how it's and you How the fuck?
• 2:47:25
  Are they pulling that off? An engine?
• 2:47:27
  That's insane. And it looks fucking amazing.
• 2:47:31
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:47:32
  Facial facial capture whatever. It's called has come a long way.
• 2:47:38
  Yeah and then and then just model manipulation like the the
• 2:47:42
  real I wrote. Like that's one thing I love
• 2:47:43
  about F of 7 or 15 15. It had such realistic looking
• 2:47:48
  food and their games at certainly put it towards that
• 2:47:51
  but yeah, that's the news. Here's a quick one, the Wii U
• 2:47:58
  and 3DS Nintendo eShop. Tsar set to close down on March
• 2:48:03
  27th of 2023. Want one.
• 2:48:09
  So there's anything you want on the 3DS or the we you just
• 2:48:13
  fucking hack it and if there's anything not on the internet
• 2:48:17
  that is going to disappear Forever by it and archive it for
• 2:48:21
  the sake of everybody. Thank you.
• 2:48:25
  Yep. So I guess the saying if it's on
• 2:48:28
  the internet it always exists doesn't always ring true huh.
• 2:48:32
  Oh absolute their shit that is lost to time like unless Is
• 2:48:37
  archived it and even then that archive has to last there.
• 2:48:41
  It's a miracle, some stuff survives.
• 2:48:43
  The Time Capsule of the internet.
• 2:48:45
  It gets tough. Getting with how vast the Sea of
• 2:48:48
  the internet is. Oh yeah, I know things can
• 2:48:50
  disappear. But yeah.
• 2:48:54
  Next in the news if I'm not mistaken live, a live released
• 2:49:00
  for the Nintendo switch, the remake of the famous RPG, live
• 2:49:04
  alive for the Super Nintendo. Very cool.
• 2:49:08
  I'm glad that Scott to remake. It's deserved.
• 2:49:10
  It is a legendary R. BG.
• 2:49:13
  I played the demo. It looks super good.
• 2:49:16
  Don't know if I'll pick it up. We'll see.
• 2:49:18
  Maybe on a sale, but if there's a physical copy, I might be a
• 2:49:21
  little bit more willing. Also, I don't know how much the
• 2:49:24
  price is set, surprise some of the check, but, yeah, that is
• 2:49:28
  this week's releases Oddworld Soul storm odd.
• 2:49:33
  To mised Edition is coming to the Nintendo switch.
• 2:49:37
  I Of the odd World Series. I loved Abe's, Oddysee Abe's,
• 2:49:41
  exoddus, munches Odyssey. I love all of the odd World
• 2:49:44
  Games and it's also a really good and it's cool to see it on
• 2:49:48
  switch because now more people can play Odd world and that's
• 2:49:53
  great. This is one of my mother's
• 2:49:54
  favorite franchises. Yeah and if you preorder I think
• 2:49:58
  you get if you pre or is it limited though?
• 2:50:03
  There are different versions. There's a standard edition, the
• 2:50:06
  limited edition, which is three art cards and a custom game
• 2:50:10
  case. So you can hold all your switch
• 2:50:11
  games kind of useful. And then there is a switch
• 2:50:16
  collector's edition with the game case, a statue, keychain,
• 2:50:20
  the art pieces, an artbook stickers, and a hand tattoo.
• 2:50:26
  But I assume it's removable. That is, that is pretty cool.
• 2:50:30
  Wow, this. Yeah I I wouldn't buy it because
• 2:50:35
  I don't need Trinkets like that. But that is cool.
• 2:50:37
  I'm glad to see that series getting love.
• 2:50:39
  I like fucking Mark out over all the world.
• 2:50:42
  Yeah, I remember again, just like you go back to fail Final
• 2:50:47
  Fantasy all the time, I guess I owe you go back to the Arkham
• 2:50:51
  series. I remember he, I remembered the
• 2:50:53
  Arkham series. I think it was for the Arkham
• 2:50:56
  City Game of the Year Edition. They did something similar with
• 2:51:00
  that we're like, Hey, we're like, you got like a, you got
• 2:51:05
  like three different disc cases and whatnot.
• 2:51:08
  You got a couple of like, you know, tattoos or something like
• 2:51:12
  that but then they also had like a, that kind of like a batarang
• 2:51:17
  replica to that was like, that looks really cool.
• 2:51:22
  So, But yeah, no. It's it's I don't believe.
• 2:51:30
  I'm gonna start expecting the The Arc and returns more often.
• 2:51:33
  Now, you can counter my final fantasy with that.
• 2:51:37
  Yeah. So but yeah, no, that's cool.
• 2:51:41
  I love those serious, Lord Landings, a fucking genius
• 2:51:43
  director. Um, yeah, and then, and just
• 2:51:47
  what he was doing in the industry back then was
• 2:51:49
  fantastic. Even on the PS1 else also, Mark
• 2:51:53
  your Because Bayonetta switch is coming to the Nintendo switch on
• 2:51:56
  October 28, and there was a trailer released around 10 days
• 2:52:02
  ago and it looks good. I love Bayonetta.
• 2:52:05
  I love Platinum Games. I need to see what additions
• 2:52:11
  are. If are there going to be if any?
• 2:52:13
  And then I'll probably just cave and by the regular one because I
• 2:52:16
  don't need extra bullshit. Yeah that's going to be
• 2:52:20
  Bayonetta is actually a game I've played.
• 2:52:23
  I don't have I don't have a Nintendo obviously but I played
• 2:52:26
  a at a neighbor's house and it's a cool game.
• 2:52:29
  It is very it's like Devil May Cry.
• 2:52:32
  You know it's very stylish, very cool and it's Bayonetta 3 has
• 2:52:37
  been in development for so long. So for it to not only have been
• 2:52:39
  announced Reese not that long ago.
• 2:52:42
  And finally we have our released a time.
• 2:52:45
  I'm excited. I'm sure it's going to be good.
• 2:52:48
  I'm not expecting much so it's going to be easy to please.
• 2:52:52
  Cool last one. Oh dear.
• 2:52:57
  Did I lose it? Oh yes.
• 2:53:00
  Negotiations. Have come to a close and it is
• 2:53:03
  official Sony now or Playstation I guess, owns bungee.
• 2:53:11
  What I heard about that, what Bunji Bunji are through the
• 2:53:17
  people that made Halo originally and then they made nests to me.
• 2:53:21
  So wait, I thought that I thought that I know, I know, I
• 2:53:27
  remember when I was a kid that he'll was a Microsoft exclusive
• 2:53:32
  for the Xbox for because they, they bought in basically owned
• 2:53:37
  bungee, they funded bungee to make their exclusive.
• 2:53:41
  So then, as is hello, now going to be to be a PlayStation
• 2:53:45
  exclusive know, because Halo bungee lost.
• 2:53:50
  Hey, Go to Microsoft. I don't remember exactly how.
• 2:53:54
  And then Microsoft opened up, its own Studio house 343 All
• 2:54:00
  right real life and that was that was after reach.
• 2:54:04
  So Halo 4 and onwards were developed by Microsoft's custom
• 2:54:08
  put together, team 343 bungee then went on to do Destiny.
• 2:54:13
  Originally as an exclusive, I think we're doing expensive for
• 2:54:17
  PS4. Interested in.
• 2:54:21
  And then they did Destiny 2 and x 3 for 3 is had so many fucking
• 2:54:27
  problems and can barely get games out the door and Halo
• 2:54:30
  nfidence travesty and yeah. That's that's, it's interesting.
• 2:54:38
  I don't know. I don't know if Destiny has what
• 2:54:43
  it takes to really stand hard and true and bring people to
• 2:54:47
  PlayStation, but we'll see. Yeah, well part of it is again.
• 2:54:54
  Part of it is going to be the availability of of the
• 2:54:57
  PlayStation, right? Because, you know, now we're
• 2:55:02
  facing the problem like all these games like Gotham Knights
• 2:55:06
  and like Spider-Man 2 Arm. Now, we now we have the problem
• 2:55:12
  of their people who can't get the PS5 and can't get the Xbox,
• 2:55:18
  you know, one, you know, or whatever Xbox is console.
• 2:55:23
  I don't even fucking know that series the series X.
• 2:55:27
  I think the Xbox series X is, there's all that they're all
• 2:55:38
  these new releases coming. Out and like 20 at the end of
• 2:55:41
  this year and beginning of next year, that are going to be
• 2:55:44
  available for. I guess, you know, next-gen /
• 2:55:50
  current-gen, you know, basically this newest Jenna of console,
• 2:55:55
  only a lot of. Yeah, a lot of them are stopping
• 2:55:59
  development on last gen because it's the Gap is too big for them
• 2:56:02
  to make the same kind of game for each version for each
• 2:56:05
  console. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:56:07
  But but they're, you know, there's still the problem of not
• 2:56:12
  enough, people can get the PS5, not enough, people can get the
• 2:56:16
  series act so yeah, it'll be It's going to, it's really tough
• 2:56:23
  for game development Studios, man.
• 2:56:26
  Well, and I think that's why there's there's the each each
• 2:56:29
  each side of it is starting to go towards PC releases.
• 2:56:38
  Because that way the studios that they have all bought can
• 2:56:42
  still make them money somehow. Even if consoles, don't move, if
• 2:56:46
  they're selling the games on PC, at least to an extent, they can
• 2:56:50
  keep the developers working on stuff and and things will keep
• 2:56:53
  moving. Yeah, so now and now it's
• 2:56:56
  starting to be every each console is going to have their
• 2:57:01
  PC counterpart Xbox has its PC counterpart PlayStation as its
• 2:57:05
  PC counterpart. They're both dipping in and
• 2:57:07
  grabbing the PC market while still trying to maintain some
• 2:57:11
  sort of a combo console Market hold and I think Xbox doing it
• 2:57:18
  better because they have better cross plot.
• 2:57:21
  And cross-play. Yeah, and he's doing some
• 2:57:27
  numbers. Oh really?
• 2:57:31
  Yeah that's why Sony is trying to copy their model and they're
• 2:57:33
  working on revamping their online service costs and trying
• 2:57:37
  to work any game pass style thing and that'll be
• 2:57:40
  interesting. Yeah that yeah they desperately
• 2:57:44
  need to do that because man I'm certainly not going to pay for
• 2:57:48
  pay for PS Now whatever it's called the no one else that I
• 2:57:52
  know is paying for I did for a bit.
• 2:57:56
  It did for a bit and what woman, let me guess, it's dog shit.
• 2:58:06
  If you can download the games, it's fine.
• 2:58:09
  If you stream the games, it's kind of a, it doesn't quite
• 2:58:12
  feel, right? Just something is off about it.
• 2:58:15
  Um, Like for PS3 stuff I get it, you can't like do that.
• 2:58:21
  But you know, there were certain games at like, You know, Parappa
• 2:58:26
  to or Red Faction to had some PS4 kind of retouches.
• 2:58:29
  And then there was this other games.
• 2:58:31
  I didn't buy physical and stuff like that, and it's like, yeah,
• 2:58:35
  okay. But I kind of play stuff a
• 2:58:37
  little here and there and I just really wasn't getting the most
• 2:58:43
  out of it because it was just I was looking at single, yeah.
• 2:58:48
  Like that's that's what I played Spider-Man on through PS Now.
• 2:58:52
  Know it downloaded feeling. Yeah.
• 2:58:56
  Yeah. What's the game pass?
• 2:58:58
  But I feel a lot better benefit. Yeah.
• 2:59:02
  So I mean that is the one thing I will say is I'm glad there's
• 2:59:05
  kind of a thing of people liking to play single-player games
• 2:59:08
  again because man, for a while part of the reason why I stopped
• 2:59:13
  gaming was because When I left the gaming Market just became
• 2:59:19
  over saturate oversaturated with multiplayer game.
• 2:59:24
  I think it still is I mean, I mean it is, but there's but I
• 2:59:31
  feel a little like, it's not as I feel like, it's not as much.
• 2:59:36
  Let me put it this way, it's still oversaturated, like crazy,
• 2:59:40
  but at least now, there's always something for us.
• 2:59:44
  You like single player games, whereas, before there really
• 2:59:48
  wasn't anything. So, what was that?
• 2:59:54
  Is that all the news on your own?
• 2:59:55
  Yeah. That is all the news on my end.
• 2:59:59
  Well, I actually I under three hours.
• 3:00:01
  Oh yeah, what do you got? I actually I actually have Two
• 3:00:10
  pieces of news to one that you might that you might know of
• 3:00:18
  one. You might not, but the trailer
• 3:00:22
  for John Wick for chapter 4. Just dropped.
• 3:00:27
  I did see hideo Kojima retweet. Something about that.
• 3:00:31
  I have not seen it yet. Have you?
• 3:00:35
  Okay. So have you seen any of the John
• 3:00:37
  Wick movies? I have seen John Wick, one and
• 3:00:42
  two. Okay.
• 3:00:46
  Yeah. I'm I'm a massive fan of that
• 3:00:49
  entire series. Um John asked me why I didn't
• 3:00:53
  get to 3 but I am a fan to I like it and then I've heard some
• 3:00:57
  stuff about three is like I'm gonna just wait a little longer
• 3:01:01
  until I'm bringing across that bridge.
• 3:01:05
  I mean I I think enough John Wick three isn't bad.
• 3:01:11
  It's it's good. It's just the way, I think, the
• 3:01:17
  way the way, the way they marketed through, in my opinion
• 3:01:21
  was bad because They made it seem like it was going to be a
• 3:01:26
  truck. They made it seem like the John
• 3:01:29
  Wick movies. We don't we're going to be a
• 3:01:31
  trailer and then or no Trilogy, sorry they made it seem like
• 3:01:38
  they made it seem like, John, what was going to be a Trilogy?
• 3:01:40
  So people I think 13, expecting expecting, expecting it to be
• 3:01:47
  the end and then like part way through the movie, you're like,
• 3:01:51
  oh wait, no, this isn't going to be There are way too many loose
• 3:01:55
  ends. I mean, I guess the way they
• 3:01:57
  marketed it, it seemed a little deceptive.
• 3:02:00
  So, but overall it's pretty good.
• 3:02:04
  That was my only problem with it was deceptive marketing, a bit.
• 3:02:08
  So yeah and and I I mean don't get me wrong, I think I just
• 3:02:15
  other things got to me, but now that for is going to come out
• 3:02:17
  well. Okay, well, there's the excuse
• 3:02:19
  to redo one and to watch three and then go into for yeah,
• 3:02:23
  that's okay. Because John Wiggles on my
• 3:02:25
  favorite characters to use in Payday 2 so yeah, oh, yeah,
• 3:02:33
  that's right. Yeah, we question payday.
• 3:02:36
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 3:02:38
  Well, and then like, so I have to admit, I'm not an anime.
• 3:02:42
  I'm not like an anime fan, but I am a hand of.
• 3:02:46
  I am a fan of like, Japanese Hong Kong action Cinema.
• 3:02:54
  So, and that's in John Wick, basically, like, pays homage to,
• 3:02:59
  oh yeah, a lot of those. So it's son was fun.
• 3:03:03
  And then and then I mean, I know, I know that.
• 3:03:08
  Yes, I know everyone loves Keanu but I will say that like, in my
• 3:03:13
  opinion. And I'm sorry Matrix fans.
• 3:03:17
  You guys kind of fucked yourselves with Matrix for but
• 3:03:22
  Keanu is better as John Wick then as me out in my opinion
• 3:03:28
  It's um I mean you mean new Neo or old Neo?
• 3:03:38
  Just overall in general I like the character going awake more
• 3:03:41
  than I like meow. Well yeah I know that's just
• 3:03:44
  preference the character then. I'll see you John Wick and I'll
• 3:03:49
  raise you. My favorite kind of characters
• 3:03:52
  Johnny silver hand from cyberpunk.
• 3:03:54
  Well, okay, okay, well yeah, that's but he's cool of how he's
• 3:04:00
  written. He's not cool because of what he
• 3:04:01
  dies, John Wick is cool because of what he does.
• 3:04:05
  Yeah, John Wick John Wick would be shit.
• 3:04:09
  They I am really surprised that that made like a John Wick video
• 3:04:14
  game. Yeah, they Did if I'm not
• 3:04:17
  mistaken, let me see. I want to say, yeah, I was
• 3:04:25
  called John Wick hex and it's kind of like, This top-down
• 3:04:31
  strategy game. Oh yeah yeah it's one of those.
• 3:04:36
  No. I mean like an axle like Hitman
• 3:04:39
  style, you know, shooter type of There should have been a John
• 3:04:45
  Wick Hitman crossover. That's what there should have
• 3:04:47
  been because nobody's going to do hit man better than hitman's
• 3:04:50
  currently doing it. Yeah.
• 3:04:53
  Then at the peak of their Series.
• 3:04:58
  Yeah. Of a God, you know, Hitman is
• 3:05:01
  actually one of those games where, like, people think people
• 3:05:05
  think, oh, it's just a shooter and it's like, no, you actually.
• 3:05:09
  It's a, it's a good. It's a, it's a strategy game.
• 3:05:13
  It's a James Bond simulator is what it is.
• 3:05:18
  On steroids on steroids with a chicken costume.
• 3:05:23
  You're goddamn right? I love it.
• 3:05:27
  Okay, I'm not even going to fucking front.
• 3:05:29
  I knew of Hitman never played it.
• 3:05:31
  I guess what game I came in on for hit man.
• 3:05:34
  Guess what was my first Absolution?
• 3:05:38
  Oh, my God. How did you call it?
• 3:05:42
  Because guess what? My first Hitman game was really.
• 3:05:47
  Yes. Oh Oh my God.
• 3:05:49
  Okay, okay. Also, you know what people say
• 3:05:52
  about Absolution, right? No people, I mean, it's kind of
• 3:06:00
  a split camp and it's some people just being die.
• 3:06:02
  Hard, hit man. Venex, but they say that
• 3:06:04
  Absolution is the worst in the series.
• 3:06:07
  Oh, yeah. I have, I have her visits, so
• 3:06:11
  it's cold. So kind of linear and shit.
• 3:06:15
  yeah, I know I've heard that for me for me, the reason I got into
• 3:06:20
  it was because at the time, my friends had kept like, you know,
• 3:06:27
  trying to get me to buy it and it was because like I It was
• 3:06:32
  because I hated the idea of it, man.
• 3:06:34
  I was just like, yeah, like it's not super high on my priority
• 3:06:38
  list, right? And then people just kept
• 3:06:42
  nagging out and it was like, okay, fine, I'll play as your as
• 3:06:47
  your fucking bald-headed, fuck had a SAS, that's okay.
• 3:06:53
  Fine. And then I and then I got I got
• 3:06:56
  Absolution and I was like holy shit, this is actually fun.
• 3:07:01
  I was mine was started from watching a two best friends
• 3:07:05
  Machinima video like that game. Looks fucking cool.
• 3:07:09
  And then I got it and I was like, just games fucking cool.
• 3:07:13
  And then I didn't touch Hitman when it came out hit when the
• 3:07:16
  relaunch happened, but then it picks up Hitman two.
• 3:07:21
  And I was like and then I started reading and people are
• 3:07:25
  saying like this is the true return to form like one of the
• 3:07:28
  YouTubers I watch super Bunny. Hop was reviewing the games and
• 3:07:31
  it was his reviews that kind of got me thinking.
• 3:07:33
  Well I did like Absolution these seem pretty cool.
• 3:07:35
  So okay let me try it and then I fell in love with it because if
• 3:07:40
  it may if the current iterations of Hitman are the truest forms
• 3:07:43
  of the genre and what it's supposed to be oh my God I can
• 3:07:47
  understand why people would say absolutions bad in comparison.
• 3:07:51
  Yeah, well, and and is Square Enix if I'm not mistaken.
• 3:07:58
  Also develops Hitman, right? They owned the IP and the studio
• 3:08:06
  for many years. Part of those years were the
• 3:08:12
  Absolution years. Yeah, they owned IO interactive,
• 3:08:16
  we own the franchise and I, oh, okay.
• 3:08:19
  And they're the ones that made the hit.
• 3:08:21
  It man. Re-release release in two
• 3:08:23
  separate episodes and Seasons, instead of the full game, it
• 3:08:27
  should have been. Yeah, I I always the one I'm
• 3:08:31
  thinking of because people people on our / James Bond have
• 3:08:37
  been saying that like it if if If the Fleming is State ever
• 3:08:44
  gets shit together and austere be rights to another James Bond
• 3:08:50
  game. I own direct needs to be the one
• 3:08:53
  to make like, oh, dude, 100, dude!
• 3:08:57
  No, no! No one could make a better James
• 3:09:00
  Bond game and I know because I've played a lot of James Bond
• 3:09:03
  games. No II played.
• 3:09:06
  I played them all. And I kind of have to agree.
• 3:09:09
  So yeah, like I guess and don't get me wrong, there's something
• 3:09:12
  here. Okay, I still say Tomorrow Never
• 3:09:14
  Dies wasn't too bad. Oh no II wasn't II love.
• 3:09:20
  I actually funny story. So back when I was like a really
• 3:09:25
  young kid and I was playing games like like my my
• 3:09:34
  occupational therapist would actually like have me play games
• 3:09:38
  and one of the things was I learn how to game.
• 3:09:42
  Tomorrow Never Dies. And my mom would actually make
• 3:09:45
  me play would actually making play after school and it was
• 3:09:50
  blowing dies. Okay, so you've got, you've got
• 3:09:54
  a personal connection then? Yeah.
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  So yeah yeah. And I mean, of course, I played
• 3:10:01
  GoldenEye 64 as well. But yeah, it was okay, if PS2
• 3:10:07
  games I mean night, I mean knife, I was pretty good for
• 3:10:12
  Russia. With Love had some cool scenes.
• 3:10:15
  Well, From Russia with Love was good because like, for our
• 3:10:18
  generation and that that was like, It honestly was a truce
• 3:10:22
  experience. Well, not only that but was like
• 3:10:25
  yeah, we've all we've all heard of Sean Connery.
• 3:10:28
  But wait, wait, Sean Connery. And then we all watched the Sean
• 3:10:35
  Connery. Wait this holy shit.
• 3:10:39
  Our parents were right. This guy actually is cool.
• 3:10:42
  Yeah. So and then and then the and
• 3:10:48
  then kind of it was kind of prophetic because Cuz the James
• 3:10:52
  Bond video game franchise died harder than Daniel Craig's.
• 3:10:59
  Bond up there and of no bond at the end of their times.
• 3:11:03
  I oh that poor man. Oh that poor man.
• 3:11:10
  Yeah no. So it I God I if they ever give
• 3:11:15
  that license or put that license on the market they didn't you
• 3:11:18
  just give it to I oh that's that's just money.
• 3:11:20
  That's free money. Yeah we're at we're at like
• 3:11:25
  where I like a weird stage now. We're like we're waiting to see
• 3:11:31
  what, what, what we're into World.
• 3:11:34
  We're waiting to see what a what the, what the future the Bond
• 3:11:38
  movie is is going to be since no one knows.
• 3:11:42
  And then will they bring the game franchise back as well?
• 3:11:48
  I hope they, I hope they do both But there's just no knowing at
• 3:11:54
  this eye. I think and this is my
• 3:11:59
  uneducated ass for anybody listening.
• 3:12:04
  This is my take on it. Make a new movie.
• 3:12:08
  Have a new Bond. Yeah, I agree.
• 3:12:11
  And then make the game to launch alongside the movie or rather
• 3:12:17
  have the game in development and prep the movie to launch
• 3:12:21
  alongside the game for just figure it out.
• 3:12:23
  However, so they both launched but have the game not.
• 3:12:27
  The movie. The game have the game.
• 3:12:29
  Yeah. I true James Bond.
• 3:12:32
  Pick your bond play through scenarios playthrough, classic
• 3:12:35
  moments as any bond. Fucking who make your own James
• 3:12:39
  Bond, fuck it right like something because then you're
• 3:12:44
  pushing two different stories. You're pushing two different
• 3:12:46
  brand recognitions. And so somebody doesn't say, oh,
• 3:12:48
  I watch the movie honey, play the game, or, oh, I play the
• 3:12:51
  game, I wanted to watch the movie or yeah, I kind, I kind of
• 3:12:54
  agree with what you're saying. So the The other thing, a lot of
• 3:12:57
  people that a lot of people don't know this, but there's one
• 3:13:02
  of the independent Comics, one of the independent comic book
• 3:13:06
  companies, got the rights to do a monthly James Bond comic book
• 3:13:12
  series and the Jame and the James Bond comic book series is
• 3:13:18
  based on the funding novels. But like the James, the James
• 3:13:23
  Bond of the James Bond comic book universe is Kind of its own
• 3:13:29
  thing, right? Kind of like how PS4 Spider-Man
• 3:13:33
  is kind of its kind. Yeah, something to write.
• 3:13:36
  So, and that's kind of my idea of, for, like a James Bond, is
• 3:13:40
  like have have video game, James Bond, be its own thing in like,
• 3:13:46
  and yeah, you can make like, so nods and homages to the movies
• 3:13:50
  or whatever. But like, like you said, don't
• 3:13:53
  tie the two things explicitly together, like, well, kind of Be
• 3:13:58
  its own. Then I'm not even saying like
• 3:14:01
  the game should come up with its own like form on bond.
• 3:14:05
  I mean, kind of can if you do something like a custom
• 3:14:07
  character, which would be kind of cool because I think it's
• 3:14:11
  either you want to play as Bond doing Bond moments, or you want
• 3:14:13
  to live that fantasy yourself. There's a lot of that cross
• 3:14:16
  pollination in it, right? Because he doesn't want to
• 3:14:19
  fucking because be Bond, sip, martinis and fucking bitches,
• 3:14:23
  you know, I mean like Fuck. Yeah.
• 3:14:27
  But The thing is, is like the movie works best as a movie with
• 3:14:32
  a plot in a structure and everything, going the way it's
• 3:14:35
  supposed to go. For the most intense, action and
• 3:14:37
  drama and passion, The Hitman games are Great Bond games
• 3:14:43
  because No matter what route, you go to solve the issue of
• 3:14:48
  what you're doing. You can adapt to the world
• 3:14:52
  adapts around you and you can still even if you kind of fuck
• 3:14:56
  up a little bit, you can still kind of end it like a fucking
• 3:14:59
  spy, you know, kind of like something out of a movie.
• 3:15:03
  Well, and also just because the way games are developed, you can
• 3:15:07
  spend way longer playing a game, then you can like movies.
• 3:15:13
  Even if they're three hours long you kind of have to stick to to
• 3:15:17
  a runtime and do. Something within us and you
• 3:15:23
  know, runtime of a movie. And I know there I know there is
• 3:15:28
  that and gaming to somewhat, but it's all us like time limits and
• 3:15:34
  gaming are just not as restrictive as.
• 3:15:38
  Yeah. Are and in film or TV the kite
• 3:15:42
  the kinds of stories you can tell in long form versus your
• 3:15:46
  standard cinema. Go is much more different.
• 3:15:48
  Yeah. And the thing is too is I I
• 3:15:50
  think it would work better as you kind of have the game be
• 3:15:54
  more of a celebration because what I owe does good with Hitman
• 3:15:59
  is it preserves? Its black comedy hit.
• 3:16:03
  Man is a funny fucking game. If you're listening right, if
• 3:16:09
  you're paying attention to the right dialogues and going Lou
• 3:16:12
  right routes and you have a kind of of ability to laugh at shit
• 3:16:16
  dark. It's got some and just hilarious
• 3:16:19
  moments. Like, here's this white ball,
• 3:16:22
  dude, in Mexico, sitting with Mariachis and they know he's not
• 3:16:26
  one of them, but they're too fucking scared to fucking say
• 3:16:29
  anything, right, right. Or just, you know, effect, like
• 3:16:35
  you can one of the things the two wires is like, you can like
• 3:16:41
  you can split past like secure you can you can like so a past,
• 3:16:46
  like security guards just by like putting on a uniform and
• 3:16:50
  like, Even while wearing a uniform of, like, it was some
• 3:16:53
  kind, like, anyone paying attention can could probably
• 3:16:57
  know that. You know, hit man is out of the
• 3:17:01
  ordinary, right? But but just by putting on a
• 3:17:04
  uniform or something Hitman completely just blend.
• 3:17:08
  And but in the same in the same vein because I push towards
• 3:17:12
  this, I did suit runs. I picked a starting outfit and I
• 3:17:15
  stayed in that starting outfit and I did what I needed to do.
• 3:17:18
  I got where I need to do and I didn't put on a single goddamn
• 3:17:20
  Else do I go? First, I worked hard to ghost, a
• 3:17:25
  lot of levels in sued only. Yeah, I sometimes I need to kill
• 3:17:31
  for that, but I've tried that because I have, I have to be
• 3:17:36
  honest, as a guy who likes to wear suits a lot IRL, I love, I
• 3:17:42
  love Hitman suits, only excuse, I can do to try and Do this, I
• 3:17:47
  can. But some of those all those are
• 3:17:51
  like fucking hard without, you know, it Su.
• 3:17:54
  And I only have X amount of time in my day to play exactly.
• 3:17:58
  And when I was playing them, I was like, all right, let me
• 3:18:02
  dissect, all of this fucking Clockwork and spend hours to
• 3:18:05
  figure out reaction times and how things react.
• 3:18:08
  Like I went hard on that game and that's I think what what
• 3:18:14
  makes a good game like that is that it's got a He'll like a
• 3:18:18
  movie from beginning to end whether you're a professional
• 3:18:21
  and it's a quick scene in a movie where it's you're in.
• 3:18:24
  You're out there dead and you walk away.
• 3:18:26
  Cool. Or it's this thing that starts
• 3:18:28
  out. Slow burns into a gunfight with
• 3:18:30
  a clever fucking Escape. Yeah.
• 3:18:34
  No, I'd for Bond. Picking your bonds and bond dish
• 3:18:38
  scenarios or even re-creations. Infinite replayability with
• 3:18:42
  that. Yeah.
• 3:18:44
  I mean sometimes in it man. I just like to go and like, I
• 3:18:48
  like to go in John Wick words just like all guns blazing and
• 3:18:52
  oh yeah, just drop just walking dropping them off loaded with
• 3:18:57
  that him in the end and that is one thing like sucks and
• 3:19:02
  Absolution is like like even while playing I was kind of like
• 3:19:07
  yeah I get why this is a gripe is an Absolution like you get
• 3:19:13
  West. Whines for not doing a stealth
• 3:19:15
  flame that they kind of like like you don't have to do it,
• 3:19:19
  still play an Absolution but the game kind of says, fuck you.
• 3:19:23
  If you don't do if you don't do stuff Ali which okay that's not
• 3:19:27
  really fun. If like like like the game's not
• 3:19:31
  forcing you to play a certain way but it's kind of telling you
• 3:19:33
  what? Hey, here's what we'd like you
• 3:19:35
  to play. We don't we don't we don't want
• 3:19:37
  any possibility of Gunplay there.
• 3:19:40
  Too. Many guys go fuck yourself.
• 3:19:43
  Yeah. Right?
• 3:19:44
  Which is why if you play Absolution, you know how Opie
• 3:19:48
  the knife or a screwdriver is. Yeah.
• 3:19:52
  Yeah yeah. Yeah.
• 3:19:54
  There it is. You know exactly how.
• 3:19:56
  Oh Peters. Alright.
• 3:19:57
  Well fuck you only fire and shots.
• 3:19:59
  I'm going to drop every fucking body with the screwdriver.
• 3:20:01
  Watch me. You know, you know.
• 3:20:04
  You know what's funny about that, too?
• 3:20:05
  Was like I remember, I remember I remember I actually discovered
• 3:20:11
  how Opie it was on accident because I'm like because like I
• 3:20:15
  ran out of ammo so I was like I was like oh fuck I guess I'll
• 3:20:19
  have to kill someone with the screws with your screwdriver
• 3:20:25
  right? Like and I'm like and I'm like
• 3:20:28
  it's the screwdriver. It's not gonna be like oh, oh!
• 3:20:37
  Oh! P.
• 3:20:42
  And then in those strategies carried over to fucking the
• 3:20:45
  modern Hitman, and it's like, oh my God, it's so fun.
• 3:20:49
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 3:20:50
  It's just like 04. Yeah, for shits and giggles.
• 3:20:55
  If him if him an raw want to pay tribute to John Wick, they
• 3:20:58
  should make pencils Opie. Oh God.
• 3:21:02
  Yeah, I have pencils that would be a good item.
• 3:21:06
  That would be a good item. You could find anywhere and you
• 3:21:09
  got an instant stabber right there.
• 3:21:11
  One. But one hit though it have to be
• 3:21:13
  Last of Us style. Yeah I or at least or at least
• 3:21:19
  maybe three hits since John Wick killed three guys in a bar.
• 3:21:22
  Oh yeah. True with huh?
• 3:21:26
  Yes, or, you know, they could do something similar or fuck.
• 3:21:30
  It just have it be like, just have it.
• 3:21:31
  Be an invulnerable pencil. Screw it, fuck it.
• 3:21:34
  It doesn't matter. None of this fucking batters
• 3:21:36
  have fun. There are there are small horse.
• 3:21:40
  John Wick edits of that intro. We're like where's opening his
• 3:21:44
  case and he's you know he's smashing the concrete in the
• 3:21:47
  basement. Someone did it.
• 3:21:48
  I some of these YouTubers are talented.
• 3:21:52
  I can't find any more of a few years ago there was Edit were
• 3:21:56
  someone did where you take a, where takes out his allocation,
• 3:22:00
  as a gun case and everything and he opens it and it's just to
• 3:22:04
  reveal like a whole stack of fucking, you know, standardized
• 3:22:11
  number two pencils. That's great.
• 3:22:16
  Yeah, it's just like became a home game.
• 3:22:20
  Yeah, we have well, All over the place today.
• 3:22:28
  Oh yeah. And and see how could you
• 3:22:31
  without Vickers? One all over the place.
• 3:22:34
  I'm worse than you. Yeah makers keep things fairly
• 3:22:40
  on track. So until you get him started
• 3:22:46
  talking about which, which by the way I see that he's back, so
• 3:22:58
  So, you know, I hope Apex didn't traumatize you too much loss.
• 3:23:03
  Because the point where you were like, we should be, you gotta
• 3:23:08
  come back, you motherfucker, not at all, not at all.
• 3:23:28
  Any plans, right? As of yet.
• 3:23:31
  Things are so bad luck seeing. So yeah well I mean I know he's
• 3:23:35
  back but I also know that the whole in a drama thing regarding
• 3:23:39
  his whole clan is still kind of up in the air.
• 3:23:44
  It's hilarious. The people who doc stems
• 3:23:48
  supposedly are now like in their own shit which I guess is kind
• 3:23:52
  of karma but, you know, it's I've not probably need to read
• 3:24:01
  up more on it. I've been distracted by other
• 3:24:05
  shit like the the the gain of Casino gym stuff.
• 3:24:09
  That's at my touching this, that and the other, but I can fill
• 3:24:14
  you in afterwards. Yeah, a little bit.
• 3:24:18
  But yeah. Well, Watching and draw
• 3:24:29
  listening. And we'll be back next week
• 3:24:32
  folks. So hopefully a textual will be
• 3:24:36
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• 3:24:43
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• 3:25:01
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• 3:25:18
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