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Activists Around the World: Hindou Oumarou Ibrahim · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to Stephane
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  Speaker 1: never told you protection to by Heart Radio, and welcome
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  Speaker 1: to another edition of Activists around the World. And we
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  Speaker 1: are keeping in theme with the indigenous peoples and what
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  Speaker 1: they have done, what they continue to do around the
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  Speaker 1: world and for the community. All right, so we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about cartography, I guess, and essentially
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  Speaker 1: how they are making some amazing changes and advocating for
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  Speaker 1: their community. But before we start, and you and had
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  Speaker 1: I recently had this conversation about how we did not
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  Speaker 1: have GPS. Yes, folks, there's there's a lot of us
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  Speaker 1: who remember days before GPS and UH taking around Yahoo Maps,
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  Speaker 1: not even Google, because Google really wasn't a thing at
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  Speaker 1: that point. It was Yahoo Maps everywhere and trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure this out. But even before then, before having the
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  Speaker 1: uh like point by point direction, there was just maps.
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  Speaker 1: Can you read a map? Yeah? Actually? Yeah, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So if I just handed you like we gotta go
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  Speaker 1: to this and could you read it like not on
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  Speaker 1: roads either, like actual land maps. I don't think I
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  Speaker 1: would be excellent at it, but I think I could
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  Speaker 1: do it. And my mom and I were talking about
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  Speaker 1: this other day because we were in a situation where
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  Speaker 1: a map needed to be read and I read that map,
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  Speaker 1: look at you. I was pretty impressed, and I probably
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't have been. But you know, there's a lot too.
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  Speaker 1: We know, the whole trope about women not knowing directions,
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  Speaker 1: men refusing to ask for directions, all of those things.
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  Speaker 1: I think we need to come back and talk about
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  Speaker 1: cryptography and women. I think that would be really fascinating
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  Speaker 1: because the idea of maps and then three D maps.
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  Speaker 1: I was obsessed in social studies when we would have
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  Speaker 1: the raised maps and trying to fill follow the landscapes
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  Speaker 1: and trying to figure out mountains and the deserts and
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  Speaker 1: what areas go to like agriculture for agricultural needs as
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  Speaker 1: well as for land building as well as property lines. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it's a whole big field that I'm wondering. As everything
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  Speaker 1: has become more and more technology based and we've gotten
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  Speaker 1: more advanced. What cartography looks like today to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: But because of those advancements, it has really really helped
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  Speaker 1: into at least organizing and or bringing predictors for possible disasters,
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  Speaker 1: which is what we're going to talk about today. But
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  Speaker 1: I just had a moment of like cryptography, we don't
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  Speaker 1: actually talk about that much anymore. I wonder why is
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  Speaker 1: happening in that world? Of course arrested development. That dude
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  Speaker 1: was buster. Did you watch that in cartography that you
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  Speaker 1: couldn't actually read? Matthew was just coloring all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: That would be Yeah, I mean, that's a valuable it's
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  Speaker 1: a mental release. You were of myself. You're like, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's good for you. You You self care with that mac coloring, Samantha,
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  Speaker 1: you self care because there is a reason we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about maths in general. I definitely went off because that's
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  Speaker 1: the development. It was funny, all right. But today we
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  Speaker 1: are actually talking about the leadership and activism of Hindu
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  Speaker 1: Umura Ibrahim, who is an environmentalist as well as a
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  Speaker 1: women's activist from Chad and is an embora indigenous pastoralist
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  Speaker 1: as well. And um these are again a few of
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  Speaker 1: the hats that she wears. She is, as we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: a cartographer and more. And she's really used these technologies
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  Speaker 1: and this skill and uh bringing a community together and
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  Speaker 1: helping her lands and her peoples to try to navigate
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  Speaker 1: what is happening in the climate change, which is impacted
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  Speaker 1: them pretty greatly. She's been active in advocating for her
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  Speaker 1: indigenous community, whether it's spending time with her community as
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  Speaker 1: they continue to fall and heard the land, or working
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  Speaker 1: to help those who don't have access to higher education
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  Speaker 1: to get that access. Uh. It was when she was
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  Speaker 1: in school herself she understood how many Indigenous women were
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  Speaker 1: not able to get the same educational opportunities, so she
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  Speaker 1: founded the Association of Indigenous Pool Women and People's of
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  Speaker 1: chad or As Pat a f p a T and
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  Speaker 1: the organization started as a community based organization that focused
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  Speaker 1: on the rights of girls and women in in Borrow,
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  Speaker 1: but has since grown. In two thousand five, six years
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  Speaker 1: after the founding, the organization received an operating license and
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  Speaker 1: has been working on an environmental level, including participating in
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  Speaker 1: international negotiations for climate change, environmental protection, sustainable measures around
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  Speaker 1: the community, and more. And throughout her advocacy, she has
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  Speaker 1: continued to talk about the intersections of human rights, women's rights,
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  Speaker 1: and environmental rights, and that to fight for justice and rights,
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  Speaker 1: you can't advocate for one without the other. In an
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  Speaker 1: interview for Rolex and Time magazine, she said people need
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  Speaker 1: to understand that we cannot talk about human rights without
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  Speaker 1: talking about environmental rights. We all depend on nature, we
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  Speaker 1: interact with our environment. That's why for me, I can't
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  Speaker 1: protect human rights without also protecting the environment. And that's
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  Speaker 1: something she has been doing for her community. After witnessing
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  Speaker 1: the detriments her community has gone through due to the
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  Speaker 1: continued climate crisis, Ebraheem has been working as a leader
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  Speaker 1: to help her people and those around her in the
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  Speaker 1: in bud Royal community. Climate change has decimated water access
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  Speaker 1: and land access to the herding community. Like Chad, an
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  Speaker 1: important water source for her community, has gone down to
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  Speaker 1: ten percent of what it originally was. This loss has
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  Speaker 1: not only caused hardships for the land as a resource,
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  Speaker 1: but it started a violent competition for the farmers trying
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  Speaker 1: to get access to the water and other dwindling resources,
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  Speaker 1: as well as displacing many families in the community. She
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  Speaker 1: watched as the impact grew and she began experimenting with
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  Speaker 1: an idea to not only have the indigenous community come together,
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  Speaker 1: but to lead together to work on creating a mapping
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  Speaker 1: sens them that could help locate and allocate resources for
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  Speaker 1: farmers and herders within the indigenous community. She knew that
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  Speaker 1: because Indigenous people were the most affected by the climate
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  Speaker 1: crisis at that point, that they would be able to
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  Speaker 1: find a way to create a system to make progress
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  Speaker 1: in combating the harms of climate change. She stated, as
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  Speaker 1: an indigenous people's we know how to protect our forests,
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  Speaker 1: We know how to manage funding. You just have to
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  Speaker 1: respect the way we do it. We want to be partners,
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  Speaker 1: not recipients or beneficiaries. Um and. She has been very
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  Speaker 1: very vocal about the fact that they need to be
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  Speaker 1: the leader in this conversation, and I absolutely agree. One
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  Speaker 1: of Abraham's first projects included working with meteorologists to get
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  Speaker 1: accurate local forecasts that eventually became text musage alerts to
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  Speaker 1: help herders and others to get information that that is
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  Speaker 1: often unpredictable, but trying to get that information in advance
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  Speaker 1: right um And. She then went on to work with
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  Speaker 1: local indigenous farmers to started mapping exercise, getting community members
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  Speaker 1: to plot migration patterns and corridors for cattle to water.
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  Speaker 1: Um Then she met with fishers to get information on
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  Speaker 1: access to shores and moved on to getting information from
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  Speaker 1: farmers for cropland data and Ibrahim collaborated with UNESCO and
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  Speaker 1: the Indigenous Peoples of Africa Coordinating Committee are I pack
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  Speaker 1: I p a CC to create a three D map
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  Speaker 1: of Chad's Sa Hill Desert region with ever two fifty
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  Speaker 1: thousand MEMBORDA rule that's a tough one to pronounce. I
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  Speaker 1: hope we're gonna get some likes UM, people who rely
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  Speaker 1: on farming and hurting. The map helped the community to
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  Speaker 1: plan for future climate needs and mitigation UM. It allowed
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  Speaker 1: for the voices of the indigenous people to be a
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  Speaker 1: part of the science and technology conversations to make decisions
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  Speaker 1: for the future and how to work sustainably for their community. UM.
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  Speaker 1: And even more, the project helped Indigenous women to have
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  Speaker 1: a voice and decision making power in a way that
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  Speaker 1: continue to uphold the traditions of their culture. UH and
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  Speaker 1: her continued work and advocacy has made her a leader
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  Speaker 1: not only for her community but across the nation. In sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: Ibraham was selected to sign at the historic Paris Climate Agreement,
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  Speaker 1: and in eighteen she attended the United Nations Climate Change Conference,
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  Speaker 1: where she reiterated the importance of government responsibility and how
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  Speaker 1: they and policymakers were the ones who could create real
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  Speaker 1: change instead of putting it solely on individuals, which happens
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  Speaker 1: way too often. And in twenty nineteen she was appointed
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  Speaker 1: as an Advocate of Sustainable Development Goals by the U
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  Speaker 1: N And with all that, she has served as co
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  Speaker 1: chair of the International Indigenous People's Forum on Climate Change,
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  Speaker 1: and she is also a member of the Policy Board
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  Speaker 1: of United Nations and so much more. And with all
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  Speaker 1: of this responsibility, she has garnered awards and accolades for
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  Speaker 1: her work, including seventeens National Geographic Society Emerging Explorer Seen
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  Speaker 1: and eighteens BBCs one Women twenty nineteens Pritzker Emerging Environment
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  Speaker 1: Genius Award, twenty nineteens Time Magazines fifteen Women Championing Action
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  Speaker 1: on Climate Change Award, twenties Refugees International Richard C. Holbrook
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  Speaker 1: Award for her work and promoting the rights and interests
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  Speaker 1: of vulnerable communities. And in one she became a Laureate
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  Speaker 1: of Rolex Awards for Enterprise. So a lot of awards, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and she's got a lot of responsibility as being chairman,
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  Speaker 1: co chairs and advocates all around the world and not
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  Speaker 1: just obviously uh in Chad, and she's been doing a
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  Speaker 1: lot more. I believe she's got some write ups happening.
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  Speaker 1: She's of course going around doing speeches, and she's doing
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  Speaker 1: so much and making sure that Indigenous people are at
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  Speaker 1: the forefront in this conversation, and even knowing that as
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  Speaker 1: a woman she didn't originally get the respect that someone
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  Speaker 1: else made a man would have, but she still pushed
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  Speaker 1: to get this done because it was a lot about
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  Speaker 1: being a peacemaker and bringing her community together because it
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  Speaker 1: was causing so much strife individually and causing so much
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  Speaker 1: tension in her community with this lack of resources. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's incredibly important work and as always inspiring to see
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  Speaker 1: what she's doing and continues to do. And I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: we'll check in and we'll have updates of more rewards
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  Speaker 1: and more accomplishments and everything. But yeah, as always, if
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