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Caleb Williams Chases Bears History, What Does It Mean? · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Wendy city podcast presented by fan side of you know my guy Alex Shapiro right there I and Kenneth Davis and we are talking everything bears versus the lines here on the lake side around the 25 we got the second afternoon window when the bears are going to take on the lion to get the revenge from earlier on in the season when the lions blew the doors off of a young Ben Johnson and his program a little bit of vengeance you know a little bit of
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[SPEAKER_00]: hate and disdain for Ben Johnson getting out of props and leaving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see definitely got some injury news on both sides of the ball We're going to get into we also have records that could be broken Year in the past for any bearish fan that was one of the sweetest office of season set has ever taken place That could be broken and
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[SPEAKER_00]: the acre that's been tied around the bear's franchise when it comes to passing yards per season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only team I believe within the NFL at this point that hasn't had a passer throw for a certain number that we all know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a lot on the line, a lot on the line, Kenneth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the bear's gonna lock up the two seat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, there's also a playoff seating implications, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: With a win.
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[SPEAKER_03]: the bears of the two seed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If they lose, uh, they, they, they can eat the two seed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If they lose, they can eat the two seed, yeah, they can eat the three seed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All the three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the problem Alex, as we talked about that, I believe with who you want to play and to agree right now until we go another step in a playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'd rather not see the NFC West.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's kind of not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, here's the old thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if you're the two seed,
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then there's an upset, I mean, obviously you need to win.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The bears need to continue to win.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But if the bears are the two seed and they win, and there are upsets down the road, that first team falls, which happens, it happens.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All of a sudden, you are in line to host the NFC championship game, which is where it massive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So they got a lot to play for still.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and we know that there is definitely a home field advantage here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you feel as far as how riled up the crowd can get and we've seen that period.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we've seen it recently, but as you said, they have a lot to play for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And also, you want to enter the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You do, they did suffer a loss this past weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you want to get back on the right track and this is a division rival which really took it to you, took you to the wood shed and punished you and you want to distribute some revenge punishment back to them, move before to let them know that a little brother, big brother, that's flipping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be interesting to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And also I'm sure Ben Johnson wants to show his old team, his old head coach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, dude, I got my big boy pants on here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is my city.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like you blew that city up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to blow this up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a sweetest city than yours.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love the trick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is in the slide of Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just facts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it is like even like they're downtown and the lake and how it's situated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like looking at the midland ocean that we have because you have Windsor right across the street basically so it's not to say it's just not not a little bit right never been there never been there I've been along that coast along the Lake Michigan coast all the way up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you like Chicago, you'll like to try it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love to try it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is one of those places.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you like Chicago, you'll like to try it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can tell they definitely have some similarities.
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[SPEAKER_03]: OK. OK.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think what's really interesting about this game, also Kenneth, is just
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[SPEAKER_03]: kind of thinking back to who you mentioned it, you know, I mean, the lions like blew the bears out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They blew the bears out and thinking back to where this team was after that loss compared to where this team is now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you think back all the way to week two, all the talk was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: is Caleb Williams of bust.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How long is this going to take Ben Johnson?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, is this like another repeated, like offensive guru who can't figure it out?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was, doomsday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was doing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ah, I can't believe they didn't get jaded Daniels.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How do you pass on jaded Daniels for this guy who is too short in all of these things and everything is wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bring in Tyson Bayesian, my brain.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bring in Tyson Bayesian.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All these things, all of the doom and gloom.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And really how quickly they turn around.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm right after we do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where it's a reminder, it's a reminder that like in the time and place, it can be easy to freak out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And in the NFL especially,
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a reactionary, it's a reactionary audience.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: On a weekly basis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That part, it is a learned experience because you're using the past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at that point, what everything you just said, it felt like here we go again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, did they make the right decision?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you honestly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought both were true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, I was, I was worried about how long it was going to take Caleb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what we really going to get to see him transition this year and to where there was no question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, he's our quarterback, which he has now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: clearly done that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I was like, or will it still be like, oh, a question mark going to the next year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I knew Ben Johnson was the guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just my first thought was maybe this is going to take longer than perhaps what I expected.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I, I didn't waiver as far as they can, this was the right quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and this was the right hit coach, but I get why a lot of people did because it's this bears history.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Usually they don't pick the right quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Usually, it's evident really early that the other quarterbacks drafted in the same draft as the bear's quarterbacks are the better quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you still have Drake may out there with an impressive season and bonic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nothing to us needs it, you know, I'm saying, I don't think he's Caleb but still, I wouldn't be upset if he was my quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that could just also go to this being one of the stronger drafts going back to Philip River's E-Live or Rothers burger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just one of those, it could just be a strong draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They finally we've been waiting for strong drafts for a long time and it comes to do score to back and that's still not to set a Jaden Daniels with a healthy could still be a nice quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was doom and gloom and it was warranted because that's what happened to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you look at the last few seasons under Maddie Burflus, nothing really got turned around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they went on a little bit of runs, but they were, it went thing that we've said a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was no foundation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's really, excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the biggest part about this season is that a foundation was established.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's still things that have to be tweaked, particularly on a defensive line, but a foundation was established.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And without going through that, I don't know if we would have appreciated this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because one thing that I think we're absolving to is there was a lot of the stressful factors even when they started winning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: where it was like, this is winning, but I don't know about this winning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was still, but it didn't really the long-term left tackle of this team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was still, it was still, it was still, it's Caleb going to play with in structure or something to play San Laugh football all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, when is he going to just sometimes, when get rid of the ball, but also take the easy layups and are they being provided?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like we went through a lot like man we I mean that we went through games where the offense didn't work after the first 15 plays and until like the last 10 plays you know like that happened a lot during this season you had the running game not even being effective until after the by week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so it was a lot of things where even Ben Johnson, the Lou to the fact he didn't know to run a game was going to start clicking as early as far as to run it back, speaking up the scheme, but like it was a lot and I mean the best part and I think this Alex, I'll let you go we kind of talked about after
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[SPEAKER_00]: the week 10 or maybe like week 11 since the by week week 11 or 12 we were like so what if they go on a losing streak here what does the season really mean they didn't but that's even at that point we were looking at are they fraudulent like prior to the Eagles game
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were like, hey, this could all be smoking mirrors who would agree based on the teams that you're playing, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, think about how two weeks after they beat the Vegas, the beat Vegas, I forgot who kicked the crap out of Vegas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, man, that Vegas win looks even worse now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, we can too, so like stuff like that, um, but now they, they've proven that this franchise is going in a positive direction, um, that you have figures in the right positions to do it, um, and that you should be excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he shouldn't just be excited about this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You should be, be excited about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's healthy seasons moving forward because the biggest positions, the coach and quarterback seem to behave to have been remedied, um, when you take
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it kind of picking up from there, I think it's really interesting this season in particular because I think you're right, I think if the bears let's say get knocked out in that wildcard round, you know, or they get knocked out in the division around it's disappointing obviously because you always want to go as far as you can, but you have to feel good, you have to feel good about where Caleb Williams
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[SPEAKER_03]: is going, you know, he, we've seen the growth, is there room for more growth of course there is you know the he needs to he and his wide receivers and the tight ends need to have better chemistry need to have better report that's going to come with reps that is simply going to come with time the only the only way to to get that done is to play a lot of football together so they're on the right track there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think it's really interesting to see where this thing goes Ben Johnson, you're too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If this is Ben Johnson, you're one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How much better is it going to be when again, training camp was ugly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Training camp was ugly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It took them, it took a week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just to learn how to get out of the auto.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They should have that behind them, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Think of what happens when, okay, now, instead of working on, you know, like not even, not even the foundational space.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They weren't even laying the foundation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were like still digging the dirt, you know?
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were still moving the dirt around.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were still, you know, put this down the old building.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now they get, now they get to go back and check on the foundation that they laid and say, oh, okay, there's a couple cracks here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's fill that in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But the foundation's still there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay, now we have a full summer with that foundation already laid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We can, now we can go build an addition.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We can go build a deck out here, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, so that's where it's like, okay, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ben Johnson, we feel pretty good as the guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Caleb Williams, we feel pretty good as the guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Roman Dunesay has been rock solid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Luther burden looks like he has all the towns in the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Colson, lovelin, comin' on, et cetera, et cetera.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This interior line, that all looks great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The future looks bright, so if they lose and the playoffs, you're still hopeful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: However, these opportunities don't come up all the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The bears have been banged up, but every team in the NFL gets banged up and they've had a health where it's most important.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Caleb Williams, look at the Washington commanders.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're also thinking after last year, hey, skies the limit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What happens?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Jaden Daniels gets hurt all of a sudden, the commander season is tanked.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it almost feels like a situation where it's like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Rome has come in back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Your offensive line has stayed healthy, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: All five starters.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know Jonah Jackson has an illness.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He came back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It looks like Jonah Jackson should be good to go with that illness.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But all five guys on the offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm including Aussie Tripillo as now the presumptive starter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you have Caleb Williams, healthy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you have D.J.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and more healthy?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have Roman D.J.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and come back and pull a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Rex and Jones with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it was needed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do wonder if this job was always going to be as he trapellows it by this time in the season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Darnell right banged up, but playing, you know, so it almost feels like, hey, is this an opportunity where the bearers should take advantage of their health, because the Los Angeles Rams are without Defonte Adams, who could be coming back?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The 49ers, we just got done talking about last week, Fred Warner could be
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're missing a lot of guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're missing a lot of important guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The commanders again, down, Patrick Mahomes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: out of this postseason, Lamar Jackson's been in and out, you know, all of these other teams are banged up and I know we're trying to focus on the NFC on the NFC, so I'll focus on the NFC.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Packers are without micoparsons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is this an opportunity?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a bit of a duality here for for for me where it's like, okay, yeah, the future is bright.
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[SPEAKER_03]: People should be optimistic no matter what, but I don't think
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[SPEAKER_03]: bears or bears fans should sell set their sights too low either where it's like hey any team can win on any given Sunday and the bears have a guy two guys who who have shown I can win I can win when down 10 points with two minutes to go and it almost feels like hey it would be great if the bears could take advantage in squeezes many wins out of this season while they are
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[SPEAKER_03]: relatively healthy, where they're healthy and the really, really, really, really important areas.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know what do you think about the duality of how I'm viewing this thing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think one, there's an opportunity for the bear to be there anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think now when we're getting to the end of the season to bring a little market dismal to it,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the defense front four is really showing its ass at this point, it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one, when you think about the playoffs, they're going to let you play a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that will be good if they were getting pressures.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they're not getting the pressures because then you'd be like, man, they're going to be able to You know, take some hits at the other quarterback that they wouldn't in the regular season as far as they kind of let them play through the whistle a little bit, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everything you were saying I would think when you're saying it would be different if even if the defensive line wasn't great, but they just had one guy that was just a record
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, because you could just be like, man, we're going to ride his ass, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we're going to ride him, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that, like, if they, or if they just had guys that situationally popped, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where they don't have to be like these Hall of Famers, but even, and I'll just keep it to the bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, even when you had out of Wale and Alex Brown, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just two good players on bookings, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at that point, you briefly, at times
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have Spice Adams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, like, like, think about those guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then look at these guys they got right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the guy, I don't even really want to get into Montez sweat or whatever, but like if Montez sweat was, the taz effect was tazzing, it would, then now we're talking about, we could go all the, the bears could go all the way basically.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And there's stretches, there have been stretches for taz.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's cooled off a little bit, but in the middle season, he got hot, hot, hot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then that's not middle of the season money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all just trying to write money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's all contract money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's like, oh man, you know, one thing you could say about we making one of the highest paid guys, but in the middle of the season, oh my god, you got to see the little season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, like that, if that, if, I mean, if that happened, then again, I'm not saying like there's no chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, they definitely could, but at one point,
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[SPEAKER_00]: When, like, at some point in opposing teams' defense is gonna play well enough to slow the bears down, because now the bears can, the best thing about the bears often is they can stay in any game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Someone's gonna be able to, at times, have a really good game against that run in attack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just gonna happen just because it's football, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, well, I think how did that happen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were gonna be like, what, they're gonna be gonna run the ball enough?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it could be true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but that could, and that's when you need your defense to slow their offense down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and that's, that's my fear for what could derail the dream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that you get that just that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that, again, I think will be remedy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but man, and again, I was a person that wasn't because I didn't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I, I like to tell that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, people always be on here, prognosticating, making everything they say is right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Real big future capital.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for defensive end, probably because of how many people are really trading nice DTs if they're that good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They usually are old if they're going to trade them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I didn't see that and for them, and it didn't, and to be honest with you, until the Eagles game and the tradeout that line was passed by then, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really wouldn't have known that they was real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like we could have talked to it was real, but it was a lot of heart attack bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: of, you know, saying as far as what was happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then that player, it would have worked, you know, like if, if, if, if, if trade hindricks and, oh, hindricks, whatever the, the bangles, the defense, and trade hindricks and max cross me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, like you don't have to give the world for Max Crosby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if that, because they still need some graphics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, like, no, that's absolutely no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this isn't a one defensive player remedy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we've talked about this, like, they need a veteran or two, and they need two youngsters in a draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, at least to throw at this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause one thing we've talked about on the center was waves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: right and do they have a way that looks do they have a way you got to have a way you got to have a way you got to have a way but you can't surf on that we can't surf on that all right and I could surf on that I cannot surf on a full wave I need a half wave that's what I can surf on got to but that this is the NFL and I'm not playing in the NFL
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that again, and again, I'm not even, I mean, you can blame the past history of Ryan polls in a situation, but if we're being fair, you can't fix everything into one offseason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, when you look at everything, like one thing, I want to talk about before we really dive deep into the injuries in this game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will think, and then we'll do this again during the all season where we visit this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But man, we hit only one game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what this draft class meant to this season?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when you were talking, that's just like coast and lovelins showing why they drafted them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, yeah, I was a Ty Warren guy, but seeing how coast and lovelin fits into what Ben Johnson wanted to do.
19:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Luther Burton, the hate that Luther Burton wasn't getting enough play and time, but we still saw, he didn't know where every time where he was supposed to be at.
20:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So there was somewhat of a reason behind that, but you see why they drafted loose the burden.
20:10
[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned this guy.
20:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I was at your pillow.
20:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I just your pillow.
20:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually when the bears do something like this, this guy's a bust.
20:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying that Aussie Trapillo, they pit on him, but at least we know he's pretty adequate.
20:22
[SPEAKER_00]: At this point, with that as many reps as he would have got if he was the hands-down starter at left tackle throughout this pre-season, right?
20:30
[SPEAKER_00]: You have Rubin Hippelite, which really we haven't seen a lot, but he's been a body a couple of games prior to getting hurt to be enough there.
20:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Zack, Zoff Rager, Luke, Luke, and Amy, all year.
20:41
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't predict say phrase or miss in the year for personal reasons you know
20:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, Luke Newman came in and really helped them out when Jonah Jackson got hurt in that game and just listed the guy is of course have a round.
21:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Calmanung guy all the haters was like, oh, yeah, and we were like, and this is James Levo and myself like, hey, that's not bad because we watched him fortunately a decent amount of record football into a big city in country.
21:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's been more than anybody would have thought he would have been unless you were a Scarlet, uh, whatever fan what it was Rutgers the Scarlet night Scarlet night, thank you the Scarlet night.
21:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.
21:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, whatever.
21:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even like their coach.
21:28
[SPEAKER_00]: But whatever, Bobby, what's the, what's the, what's the siano?
21:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that the, you think I spend any brain power thing about Rutgers football?
21:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
21:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And no, I love, I love the honesty.
21:58
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, like, listen, maybe I need to pay better attention, because then I would have gotten caught up quicker on coming on guy because then it was like, after we just got, oh, yeah, it's great, it's great, it's great.
22:11
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all pretty good.
22:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you got your football too a little bit.
22:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's fearless and pet, you know, I did a lot of catching up in two weeks on coming on guy.
22:18
[SPEAKER_03]: The past pro, fearless and past pro, fearless.
22:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Their quarterback last year, their quarterback last season was a more more dual than threat, like he was a decent running quarterback, but they didn't have a passing game.
22:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody knew, hey, Kee up on Kalmanaga, he's still was busing you know what's with the big tin.
22:37
[SPEAKER_00]: We're and we're talking about the big tin.
22:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't playing in the new Pac 12.
22:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he was playing against some of the best teams.
22:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the new Pac 12, the big
22:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, what he was planning as the new packed 12 because the new packed 12 is the big 10.
22:54
[SPEAKER_03]: So you're right.
22:55
[SPEAKER_03]: It is impressive playing against those old packed 12 new big 10 teams.
23:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, now he's good.
23:04
[SPEAKER_00]: What about the injuries Alex, let's jump into that.
23:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry after talk a little bit more about Rutgers football because you made me look up Rutgers football on with us on Wikipedia.
23:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know who is the Rutgers football.
23:19
[SPEAKER_03]: is this head?
23:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me see.
23:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Head coach before the first Greg Siano era.
23:27
[SPEAKER_03]: No, who was it?
23:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Terry Shay.
23:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh.
23:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I do more some more time with with Rutgers football.
23:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Good old fairs fan favorite.
23:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody everybody should call the love Terry Shea, right?
23:42
[SPEAKER_03]: weren't those some of the wasn't that the most beloved offense in uh, embarrassed history.
23:48
[SPEAKER_03]: The Terry Shea offense.
23:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, I'm sorry.
23:50
[SPEAKER_03]: That was uh, John Schupe.
23:52
[SPEAKER_03]: John Schuper, John Schuper, John Schu, it might pronounce you as name right.
23:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Most of the other bears offences of all time.
23:58
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, you, you've alluded to the Eric Kramer season, which I believe that was,
24:07
[SPEAKER_00]: No, if Turner's brother that close that you were on Turner, yeah, Ron Turner was I believe the offensive coordinator that season.
24:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I was being sarcastic.
24:15
[SPEAKER_03]: These are some of the most hated pairs.
24:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I just, well, some people wouldn't have gotten it.
24:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So let me just say, they don't know their stuff.
24:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Reemly sarcastic.
24:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Those were highly ineffective bears off on some coordinators.
24:26
[SPEAKER_03]: They were shareable.
24:27
[SPEAKER_03]: And Terry Shay of Scarlet Knights fame as well.
24:35
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Scarlett Knight's football, who knew?
24:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe you knew.
24:40
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't remember when Greg Shannon went to Tampa Bay?
24:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I know his name from the NFL.
24:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I had no idea that he was associated with you.
24:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, from Rutgers.
24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And let you know when someone was like, man, you know that guy that's coaching that Rutgers, he will be great at Rutgers.
24:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm so sorry, Kyle and I'm so sorry if you're listening out there.
25:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm really really sorry.
25:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I will.
25:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I will watch more Rutgers football next year.
25:07
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a promise to you and you only come and I'm going.
25:14
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, injury front Rome.
25:18
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you know as far as Rome is part of the situation and perhaps what should we expect.
25:26
[SPEAKER_03]: for the first time in a while, got some limited practices in, questionable.
25:33
[SPEAKER_03]: It'll be interesting to see if he plays.
25:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually have not heard what Ben Johnson said today.
25:38
[SPEAKER_03]: We were recording this on Friday.
25:42
[SPEAKER_03]: But he's obviously missed a good bit of time.
25:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think the bears have missed him on offense.
25:50
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, his,
25:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Big Target, good on those 50, 50 balls.
25:56
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a guy who you throw it up.
25:59
[SPEAKER_03]: He's got a good chance of coming down with it.
26:01
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think they've missed that guy.
26:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they've missed that guy in this offense.
26:06
[SPEAKER_03]: So with the opportunity to get the number two seed, and especially knowing that the Lions might not be playing all their guys, Dan Campbell kind of alluded to, hey, you know,
26:19
[SPEAKER_03]: If the guy's got bumps and bruises, he'll play, but if it's something a little bit more serious where something could get worse, we'll probably just sit them down because the lines have nothing to play for.
26:28
[SPEAKER_03]: That opportunity, I do wonder if the bears give it a world to really lock in that advantage throughout the post season.
26:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Now obviously they're going to monitor it since he.
26:40
[SPEAKER_03]: looked like he was going to play a few weeks ago and then re aggravated that foot injury during warm ups.
26:44
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's going to be a really interesting situation to see for for Roma dunes.
26:51
[SPEAKER_03]: We mentioned the Jonah Jackson illness.
26:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody else.
26:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Chacuan Brisker just came down with the illness.
27:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, this thing has just worked
27:07
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... it's really worked its way through the bears here i'm pulling up bears communications right now yeah so jacquan brisker dnp on friday with the illness he is questionable the only guy who has been ruled out is the guy they got at the trade deadline jotrian show yanko is actually i think been a solid
27:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Second wave guy even though we just got to understand the bears have only half a wave I think he's been a decent sub.
27:33
[SPEAKER_03]: We he's popped off.
27:34
[SPEAKER_03]: We've seen Josh trians show you can make some plays The guy they got from the Cleveland Brown, so he's the only guy ruled out so things actually trending up for the bears Josh black well
27:44
[SPEAKER_03]: No game designation Luther burden.
27:47
[SPEAKER_03]: We had all the questions about him since he got hurt on that very last play no game designation for Luther burden and same thing for all of me to Zacchaeus.
27:55
[SPEAKER_03]: No No game designation
28:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
28:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And then about on the lying side, I know there was some key guys that I'm on the Rossi Brown is looking like you said that Dan Campbell said he's trending towards, but I wasn't lonely.
28:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Do it all.
28:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Linebacker.
28:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Linebacker that came from New Orleans several years ago.
28:17
[SPEAKER_00]: that can really play off the ball well and switch off and coverage.
28:23
[SPEAKER_00]: That's something to exploit and Penny Suelle, particularly with the bad defensive line, now perhaps their best offensive lineman at right is going to be out.
28:34
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're in advantages.
28:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And then like at some point,
28:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I wonder at some point will the lines depend on how the game's going, just kind of take their foot off the gas.
28:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
28:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
28:48
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a really given it to them.
28:49
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no reason to get anyone hurt.
28:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And like you just said, and you can get a chance to see some guys that you're going to look at next year and give them some reps.
28:59
[SPEAKER_00]: They prep the help you determine the depth moving forward.
29:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be, I'll be lowkey disappointed that they lose in the lives because this isn't the lines.
29:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we've set this though.
29:15
[SPEAKER_00]: A division rival, and it's amplified by the fact that the Bearshead coach just left there and has been viewed as the NFL's wonderkin for the last couple of seasons.
29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure there are people with pride in the Lions organization and want to show that they had a lot to do with that also, if not more in their opinion.
29:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, it's football and your asses are out.
29:37
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, you're in a damn way, and you need to move that ass out the way if we're paying us.
29:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.
29:45
[SPEAKER_03]: It would be disappointing if the bears lost this game.
29:47
[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned Anzoloney.
29:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Rossa, Sam Brown banged up.
29:52
[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned Pinesuil, and then one more, Al McNeil, nose tackle.
29:57
[SPEAKER_03]: So between Anzoloney and McNeil, these are guys who haven't been ruled out already.
30:02
[SPEAKER_03]: that should help the bears run game immensely, you know, those are two important figures in that run defense and as long as all over the place.
30:11
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, based on again, the yes, the bears are banged up.
30:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Every NFL team is banged up.
30:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Penace who will be ruled out is arguably the biggest guy ruled out among both teams.
30:25
[SPEAKER_03]: That's an enormous loss For the Lions so based off who they're missing they got nothing to play for as you said if the bears go up a They got none to play for Kenneth that sounds like Tez effect time doesn't it should be Tez effect time You know also should be I actually thought about this when you were when you were talking earlier about the the other guy who could just give you a little something something
30:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to see more attention from Austin Booker.
30:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Awesome Booker.
30:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Really good game last game.
30:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, yep, really good game last game.
30:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Over the past month, month and a half, there have been more moments where he has popped.
31:00
[SPEAKER_03]: If he can continue to grow grow grow, and if he gets a wave.
31:04
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a wave.
31:05
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a wave.
31:06
[SPEAKER_03]: If he can grow, 10's plus Booker, that might be a wave.
31:10
[SPEAKER_03]: It might be a wave, but he's not a big wave, but a wave.
31:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let's see if Towskin get a sack, let's see if Austin Booker can get a sack, let's see if they can generate a little momentum heading into the playoffs.
31:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, now you might be cooking with some, I'm not saying you're cooking with Greece quite yet.
31:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I will look, I will look, I will look.
31:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how much of a cream in the clear we can get down there to boost the odds, joking, as far as good old, good old days and baseball, because they need to save me to boost.
31:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, to your point, there's there's going to be opportunities for you would think this defense of lot and Austin Booker has really that last game he really played.
31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: He started off hurt this season kind of derailed what his sophomore year could have been last year.
31:57
[SPEAKER_00]: They brought him along slowly because it's not like he had a ton of reps while in college, but he has shown why Ryan polls selected him.
32:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the biggest question, and this will be more of a question for the playoffs, but also for next year.
32:13
[SPEAKER_00]: because next year we'll just show us consistency is one triponi or dual thread guy, you know, as far as both because I think our host was man, if he could just rush the passer, but if he can do that and play the run, now you're talking about, of course you need another defensive end, but you have the young player and you can look at bringing in perhaps a vet,
32:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And then looking at doing something at DT with going young also now you could perhaps go DT to get the kid from the kid from Clemson is going to be So around where the bears may be.
32:50
[SPEAKER_00]: depending what he may be he'll be in a teen so he won't be around but he could slip but they could look at getting them a nice defensive tackle that's maybe a pocket penetrator or collapse or and then also looking free agency and in the draft to strengthen both the defensive insights
33:10
[SPEAKER_00]: or whatever move before.
33:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, the one in the box of things again, I'll say this, they don't have nowhere near the holes that they've had in the prior seasons where we need a guard's tackles and centers.
33:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this is on a list, aren't like we need everything possible.
33:29
[SPEAKER_00]: The car, we just had a frame and some break.
33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Chassy.
33:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's it.
33:35
[SPEAKER_00]: We still had to strip it down to the bare metal.
33:37
[SPEAKER_00]: We still had old paint on it, so at least now at their hell.
33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's one thing that you keep saying at the point.
33:44
[SPEAKER_00]: They really haven't been healthy this year.
33:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, some of the key cogs have been healthy, particularly a quarterback's been healthy.
33:50
[SPEAKER_00]: But they've been hit with the injury bug and it shows their resilience, you know, it's particularly when you're performing a new program It shows the resilience and the character of this team that health didn't become an excuse because it's show has been in the past So it's good that they a next man next man up has really been something with it with this program Honestly next man up has really been something
34:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
34:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Should we talk a Caleb's quest for bears records?
34:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Go right it.
34:22
[SPEAKER_03]: So I've seen some discourse that if Caleb Williams passes Eric Kramer, if Caleb Williams becomes the first bears quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards, that it really won't mean much because it's a 17 game season.
34:38
[SPEAKER_03]: and to the degree, to the degree.
34:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I understand that.
34:43
[SPEAKER_03]: But then I wonder.
34:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Is this what they were talking about on sports radio in 1980, when they went from 14 games to 16 games, you know, so, you know, is there an asterisk now for two years, four years later, does the asterisk go away?
35:00
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, you had a failure to play 14 games, they want 16 games.
35:04
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't really care about that anymore.
35:07
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think I think personally, I think it matters.
35:10
[SPEAKER_03]: A because like even with us,
35:13
[SPEAKER_03]: new all the rules that favor passing in this league.
35:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Bears haven't had anybody pass Eric Kramer 30 years 30 years, Eric Kramer has held that record.
35:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it matters that as like a totem that we're going in the right direction as the Chicago Bears, right?
35:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Talking to the Chicago Bears.
35:36
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going in the right direction.
35:38
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got the quarterback.
35:39
[SPEAKER_03]: We've
35:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's just like one more demon that this team can exercise one more thing well more thing that they can just put in the past because this team is put a lot in the past this year.
35:54
[SPEAKER_03]: They've they've slayed a lot of dragons and I think it's just one more thing that
35:59
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't have to hear about anymore.
36:01
[SPEAKER_03]: So they get the 4,000.
36:02
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's 270 yards.
36:05
[SPEAKER_03]: If Caleb Williams throws 270 yards, he'll hit 4,000.
36:09
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's 109 away from passing Aaron Freeman.
36:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
36:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
36:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Jake, cutler couldn't do it.
36:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Mitchell, your biscuit couldn't do it.
36:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Just a field couldn't do it.
36:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Not of him could do it.
36:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Not of him could do it.
36:22
[SPEAKER_03]: And he can do it with 109 yards.
36:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that matters.
36:25
[SPEAKER_00]: bringing us all that said, just thinking about those quarterbacks, um, I think this, one, it would be the bears to need a mixture game to finally do it, right?
36:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I'll say this too.
36:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I think part of, uh,
36:39
[SPEAKER_00]: the job that we do is to contextualize stuff and to provide people with information.
36:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And because we live in a microwave society with built-in, recency bias, we always want everything to be now.
36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that OJ Russia for 2,000 yards,
36:58
[SPEAKER_00]: in 14 games and I don't remember when Eric and Dickerson when he set the record how early he set the record and his early his career in the 80s.
37:08
[SPEAKER_00]: But if he didn't technically really do it in 14 games, I mean, to a degree, it's not the same.
37:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the fact that Sequon Barclay decided to sit last year, one for health purposes, but also because it really won't have been breaking Eric Dickerson's record because he needed an extra game.
37:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you said something.
37:26
[SPEAKER_00]: time will make it easier for that to fade away, right?
37:30
[SPEAKER_00]: But we should always respect the records and the amount of games that it took because that's the thing that makes sports great.
37:39
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
37:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, hold on like the facts about sports.
37:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, eras are different, but like I love the fact that sports can be passed the one like a scroll in
37:52
[SPEAKER_00]: thousands of years ago.
37:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying before was a part crisp, but like I like that about sports.
37:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
38:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Sports gives you something that isn't just all out subjective.
38:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like, no, no, that ask I kicked 14 23.
38:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, you know, stuff like that.
38:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel you, and again, I'm not saying it wouldn't be fun here.
38:17
[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be great.
38:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's going to, he's going to serve past 4,000 yards.
38:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's going to happen.
38:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
38:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he will.
38:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And he'll do it before the 7th, 7th day.
38:29
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, one of these seasons, if he's going to do it multiple years, Caleb Williams will throw four more than 4,000 yards.
38:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You can see that it's coming like think about how we just opened up this show talking about how this can join at the office was for large portion of the season now imagine next year right like think about like you know how good the bears are now that morally if this was week four or three and they play San Francisco the way they play San Francisco we be blowing our minds away.
39:01
[SPEAKER_01]: We were like, can't let went toe to toe.
39:03
[SPEAKER_01]: We're brought party plan in this ice level.
39:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, right?
39:07
[SPEAKER_00]: We will be every time and it's going away.
39:09
[SPEAKER_00]: We will be going crazy over it, because we're like the office.
39:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at the office.
39:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Every, remember how many weeks that the story was, but what about the office, right?
39:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the defense was carrying them.
39:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and now we've got to the point where it's like, you go, I go, you go, I go, I go with one of the smartest offensive minds and football couch in the end, right, like, so that just he will, he will take care of business when it comes to breaking it and setting all these bears records.
39:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that's part of the reason why I was great.
39:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, I was thinking about him talking about being here.
39:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw some, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
40:07
[SPEAKER_00]: right?
40:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you do.
40:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you do it.
40:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And nationally, it will be dark.
40:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I tell this to people because people want to be like, they hate us.
40:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, nationally, when the bears go up, it's, it's good for the NFL and it's good for sports, right?
40:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It generates revenue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People on coast like that who benefit from things like that.
40:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, we, we will definitely see, but I do like the point that you're making, like we
40:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Because any of it, you're right.
40:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It's another, it's another pin in the cap for the bears to let you know that they're heading in the right direction as you just moved to a minute ago.
40:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if you'll get 4k.
40:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you'll get 4k ever Sunday.
40:53
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, I'll send it this year to someone here.
40:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let
41:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, do you, Caleb Williams, is that 240 yards?
41:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, as you've got to, if it's 240, you've got to go for that 30 yards, right there.
41:29
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't, bro, get your ass out there real quick.
41:32
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to do that, I do.
41:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, but I do.
41:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think they will, but by point would be, would you, I wasn't going to say how many yucks in this, in this, this, this, this high pot, this, whatever I'm trying to come in scenario.
41:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, scenario better, much better, for example.
41:49
[SPEAKER_00]: In this scenario, the running game is care of the bears this game for the most part, right?
41:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, let's just say Caleb has 180 yards, 170 yards, right?
41:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, two touchdowns, but basically it's been from the running game and even him gig some with his legs as far as getting first down at some point just because you are entering the playoffs and the last thing you want is some injury for somebody doesn't need to be out there the game is secure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because now you can spend it, I agree with you entirely, if it's the third quarter and the bears are up multiple scores, you know, there are 20 points or something and Caleb sitting at 200 yards even at 200 yards, you know, or two 240 I'm saying he's 30 yards away, I think you got to sit him, I think you got to sit him because if he gets hurt,
42:57
[SPEAKER_03]: That's disaster.
42:58
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a real, real disaster.
43:02
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you can say, all right, we got you the franchise record.
43:07
[SPEAKER_03]: You have rewritten the history books and we'll leave 4,000 for next year.
43:12
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll leave 4,000 for next year.
43:14
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it all starts at the core message of like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: an important message that is the reality of the situation.
43:21
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like Chicago bears winning football games, the Chicago bears winning playoff games.
43:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
43:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Trump's everything.
43:30
[SPEAKER_03]: That is a number one mission one.
43:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Everything else comes after that.
43:35
[SPEAKER_03]: So so I am with you.
43:37
[SPEAKER_03]: If the bears are up huge and Caleb
43:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I say, hey, you might have to set that record in 2027 in early January, 2027 young man.
43:52
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, you got me your supports.
43:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I do have an extra point, Kenneth, remind me, have I brought this extra point onto the show that I finished the wire?
44:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I know I talked about the wire and being in season five, but if I updated that I finished.
44:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you, I don't think you said you finished the wire.
44:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I finished
44:12
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think I'm ready.
44:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I've really kind of agonized over this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm ready to go on the record and say The wire is the best television show of all time.
44:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean that opinion has a lot of people have that opinion a lot of
44:29
[SPEAKER_00]: media people I know as Chicago have that opinion.
44:32
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's nothing far-fetched.
44:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get to it.
44:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So my extra point will be for a boy that is a distant son of the state of Alabama, a man rather I should say was preferring to myself.
45:00
[SPEAKER_00]: you should have taken that Michigan job when you had chance if that's true.
45:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And the real problem is one, you got clocked yesterday, but the real problem is being a son of Illinois.
45:16
[SPEAKER_00]: and knowing that the damn who's is about to win a national title.
45:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And the second year at Kirk's Signetti is there.
45:23
[SPEAKER_00]: New Big 10, by the way.
45:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm counting Indiana as a Pact 12 team and this new Big 10.
45:28
[SPEAKER_03]: They are not old Big 10.
45:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Old Big 10.
45:31
[SPEAKER_03]: You do not get to claim Indiana.
45:33
[SPEAKER_03]: There is good as a Pact 12 team in their situation as a guest and nice theory.
45:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.
45:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.
45:39
[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that you get Kirk's Signetti,
45:44
[SPEAKER_00]: and this man is going to win a national title in Indiana football.
45:51
[SPEAKER_00]: His second year, you said to what?
45:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Losing his program all the time.
45:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, dude, I mean, oh, me, oh, like just again.
46:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even have tons of Indiana hate, but right now it's like our football teams can't do anything close to that.
46:11
[SPEAKER_00]: but also the admiration and you knocked it out the park rain is coaching and he knocked it out the park clearly.
46:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean his second year, don't I don't think the damn Oregon's gonna beat them?
46:25
[SPEAKER_00]: What's Ohio State went out?
46:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, oh snap, the road is cleared, the goal.
46:30
[SPEAKER_00]: for the Hoosiers.
46:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So even though I'm peeped shout out to the Hoosiers, shout to Kirk'signetti because you got something.
46:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even wonderful or nice.
46:42
[SPEAKER_00]: It's mind-blowing what this gentleman is doing at that place, man, that's wild, you know what I'm saying?
46:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Who would have, if I told, listen, you're a better man.
46:54
[SPEAKER_00]: If I told you two years ago that the Hoosiers were winning a national title,
46:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they haven't done it yet.
47:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
47:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, oh, it looks awfully good.
47:03
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to put a list of them on it?
47:06
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't know.
47:08
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'll be okay.
47:10
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
47:11
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, anything else I was before we get out?
47:14
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47:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I just glass type water.
47:21
[SPEAKER_03]: How about that crimson tide?
47:23
[SPEAKER_03]: The tide went out.
47:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Crimson tide.
47:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa, just the just some of the runs late in the fourth quarter, late third quarter.
47:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's like, what the hell is this?
47:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, can't hand Georgia coast dog?
47:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know dude.
47:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.
47:43
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47:44
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47:45
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47:47
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47:58
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, here's my second extra point.
48:01
[SPEAKER_03]: The SEC is now garbage again.
48:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, because that NIL money.
48:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And now that, listen, it's obvious, everybody was given that money.
48:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Give USC all the scholarships back, man.
48:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Give USC all the scholarships back.
48:16
[SPEAKER_03]: USC should get 10 extra scholarships for the next three years, all the scholarships they lost because of Reggie Bush, because they bought Reggie Bush's Mama House or bought her a car or something.
48:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, come on, give them back.
48:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody walks blue.
48:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Give them back to Heisman, give them back to scholarships.
48:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Michigan, actually cheated.
48:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Michigan, actually cheated.
48:36
[SPEAKER_03]: They actually cheated.
48:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Give USC back to scholarships, SEC overrated, SEC is over.
48:43
[SPEAKER_03]: The New Pack 12, which is the big 10 Indiana included.
48:48
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
48:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.
48:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the big 10, but as someone who's a fan of the SEC.
48:56
[SPEAKER_00]: to see what it is now and how will it ever get back to being like it's like it even like last year it was like okay big Tennessee C, you know, but now it's like do you guys know like it's it's not so yeah there'd be a third action point can I have a third
49:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so we have just, you know, kind of cemented that the SEC is garbage.
49:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, great.
49:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Tennessee should not have been invited.
49:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Alabama should not have been invited.
49:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Meanwhile, we have all these other mid major teams that did not get the invite.
49:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Notre Dame.
49:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not said that Notre Dame didn't make that.
49:45
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fine.
49:46
[SPEAKER_03]: But we have all these other teams.
49:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Can we just make the college football play off 64 teams like March.
49:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, let it rip.
49:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, because now guess what?
49:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Because now I have a reason to watch the 1-800 contacts bowl.
49:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it actually matters because you're asking me to watch that 1-800 contacts bowl.
50:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely not.
50:05
[SPEAKER_03]: But guess what if it's 6014 tournament I'm all about it.
50:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, this is a no this is loop this is my same thing.
50:13
[SPEAKER_03]: This is what Indiana Georgia Alabama you want to actually cement yourself you got to make it through you got to make it through a lot of football games now you got to play the whole tournament.
50:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, go beat James Madison.
50:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the regular liberty.
50:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the regular season still having a meeting in college football Because then you'll get that one seed and you'll play the 16 seed
50:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, on that note, we will see you after the bear's game.
50:42
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, after the bear's versus the beat the lions, we will see you here on the Wendy City podcast presented by fans cited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Please, of course, is always be safe.
50:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And we always appreciate you taking a little bit of time to hear us ranch and rave about whatever Alex was just talking about as far as the tournament.
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