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Speaker 1: He's been in the league form with the good acclimated
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Speaker 1: discussed the week ago.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a similar type deal we did with Sterling Shepherd
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Speaker 2: last year in Tampa, where you have a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a runway for the next couple of days to
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Speaker 2: get acclimated. Continuing to, you know, add competition to the
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Speaker 2: room and guys that have played some meaningful snaps in
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Speaker 2: the league in a similar system, and just the type
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Speaker 2: of person that he is that we've heard, you know,
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Speaker 2: from Zach and those guys in Cincinnati. Just continuing to
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Speaker 2: develop the roster really and you know he's so far,
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Speaker 2: he's just he's been a great guy to kind of
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Speaker 2: get to know a little bit, and he'll continue to
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Speaker 2: learn the offense as we go here.
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Speaker 3: He mentioned does talks on how much the priority that is.
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Speaker 2: Is it the offensive line that really kind of sets
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Speaker 2: that cons does. Yeah, it's and it's really a like
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Speaker 2: I've said, it's an interesting dynamic in this time where
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Speaker 2: you can't bang, you can't hit, really you can't establish
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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, but you can establish the way
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Speaker 2: that we want to play in some ways in terms
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Speaker 2: of attacking the line of scrimmage. Mental toughness when it
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Speaker 2: comes to multiple play calls, handling cans, handling, handling the audibles,
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Speaker 2: zero checks like them, the way they break the huddle,
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Speaker 2: the way that.
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Speaker 4: They're disciplined with cadence.
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Speaker 2: That's definitely helping set the mentality and toughness of the group,
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Speaker 2: specifically on offense. It always starts with those guys up front.
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Speaker 2: Although it's just a weird time to truly, I guess
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Speaker 2: evaluate it, but you can continue to press that and
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Speaker 2: push that envelope and say, guys, let's continue to be
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Speaker 2: at a high level every single time we come out
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Speaker 2: on the grass and every single protection walkthrough and every
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Speaker 2: single play that we're doing.
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Speaker 4: Knowing it's a lot of pass game.
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Speaker 1: You look at rut if you're going to figure at
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Speaker 1: last year, what dynamic is any.
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Speaker 4: Travis Hunter on making the same side you know, do
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Speaker 4: as deep.
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Speaker 3: Into try to take him away.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I saw so much of it.
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Speaker 2: Obviously a different entity with Cooper cup in La where
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Speaker 2: you're getting a lot of double coverage, whether it more
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Speaker 2: so be from the slot where maybe they have a
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Speaker 2: nickel playing outside leverage and then a safety or a
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Speaker 2: linebacker inside of him to double. And then go to
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Speaker 2: Tampa with Mike Evans, and he's more of that outside
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Speaker 2: receiver that's getting the corner and the safety double. So
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Speaker 2: it's really just about creating balance. And Okay, if we
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Speaker 2: put them on the same side, well, can we dictate
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Speaker 2: maybe where those the double may go and help maybe
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Speaker 2: get one on one coverage elsewhere, So you know, as
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Speaker 2: we go and see maybe how people defend us that
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Speaker 2: way with Brian, it'll help kind of dictate whether we
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Speaker 2: want to get the one on one match up in
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Speaker 2: the in on the inside or on the outside, at
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Speaker 2: the running back position, at the tight end position. So
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Speaker 2: it kind of helps dictate terms, even though it can
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Speaker 2: be annoying at times to get double teams.
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Speaker 5: Just the offensive guy. If you wanted your guy to
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Speaker 5: do well and one on ones. Now as a head coach, yeah,
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Speaker 5: well both of those guys are yours. Now, how do
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Speaker 5: you balance out not roots for the offensive guy?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard.
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Speaker 2: I actually got to ask a similar question on Monday,
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Speaker 2: where your your first feeling is always, man, we had
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Speaker 2: a good day on offense. You're usually pretty pleased just
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Speaker 2: in general. Now that mentality kind of has to shift
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Speaker 2: a little bit. I don't think you're ever going to
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Speaker 2: be fully pleased if one side of the ball maybe
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Speaker 2: is that much different than the other, whether it be
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Speaker 2: on offense or defense. But I've definitely had to find
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Speaker 2: myself to you know, stay positive even when maybe something
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Speaker 2: negative happens to the offense. That man, at the end
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Speaker 2: of the day, this is about developing a team, and.
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Speaker 4: I have to be at the forefront of that. I
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Speaker 4: hope you got three of your six running back for
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Speaker 4: rookie seven or your fourteen receiver for the rookies.
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Speaker 1: How have you seen they'll kind of develop over the cordoldia.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a ton of learning. You know, it's so much learning,
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Speaker 4: so much they're doing a ton of extra Like you
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Speaker 4: walk out here, I think it was about.
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Speaker 2: Seven this morning, got finished working out and saw Trevor
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Speaker 2: Lawrence and Travis Hunter out here walking through.
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Speaker 4: So that's just one example. You know.
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Speaker 2: You see the rookies they do development periods every day
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Speaker 2: right at the end of practice. Why we kind of
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Speaker 2: leave fifteen minutes per day at the end is for
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Speaker 2: them to go in and get developmental work. So that
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Speaker 2: has been really I think key to those guys learning
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Speaker 2: the system getting updated, because man, they got thrown in
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Speaker 2: the mix. We're a month already into the install and
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Speaker 2: so they've had to play catch up. And that's kind
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Speaker 2: of what those developmental periods are for. And it's hard
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Speaker 2: to truly judge it at the moment, you know, I
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Speaker 2: think I just see, Okay, are we getting lined up properly?
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Speaker 2: Are we getting off on the right cadence? Are we
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Speaker 2: not making total bust mistakes? The finer details will come
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Speaker 2: for those guys in training camp right now. It's more
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Speaker 2: about that broad scope learning anybody fitting out before man
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Speaker 2: hard to say, to be honest with you, it's it's
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Speaker 2: kind of a group of guys that, you know, I
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Speaker 2: think you'd say the majority of the draft picks have
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Speaker 2: taken steps within each kind of realm. I can't really
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Speaker 2: single anybody out specifically that I think that's like, wow,
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Speaker 2: oh my goodness, this has been amazing. I think you'd
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Speaker 2: just say, like, I'll kind of wait on that judgment
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Speaker 2: in training camp, bring it in.
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Speaker 3: A bar deck. Just what really does he bring to
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Speaker 3: you guys?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a ton of respect for the player competing
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Speaker 2: against him two times a year in LA, you know,
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Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen, and he was every time we would
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Speaker 2: go play the Arizona Cardinals he was on the game
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Speaker 2: wrecker board, so we would always kind of introduce the
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Speaker 2: game wreckers to the players, and he was on there,
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Speaker 2: whether it was for originally you know, for special teams
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Speaker 2: and then also for rushing the passer and creating some disruption.
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Speaker 2: So it just gives us somebody a little bit different
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Speaker 2: kind of style rusher special teams. Demon he was a
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Speaker 2: captain in Arizona on special teams. He had three sacks
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Speaker 2: in a game last year. I'm not sure how many
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Speaker 2: people did that this past season, but he did and
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Speaker 2: had an interception in the following game. So you're just
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Speaker 2: looking at continuing to find guys that can disrupt the
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Speaker 2: game in a specific way, whether it's in the DPR
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Speaker 2: or on special teams with Smoot'll Smot give you, you know,
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Speaker 2: just again continuing to add competition to the room consistency.
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Speaker 2: A guy that obviously, you know, has roots in this
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Speaker 2: area and and you know has strong friendships with some
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Speaker 2: of the guys on the team. And then when you
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Speaker 2: talk to guys that maybe have not been in this building.
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Speaker 2: With Eric Ciano, our strength coach, was with him in
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Speaker 2: Buffalo and he just said he was a tireless worker
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Speaker 2: in the weight room on the practice feel consistently going.
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Speaker 2: You kind of had to pull him back at times,
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Speaker 2: and that was something that continuing to get a little
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Speaker 2: bit of veteran presence, guys that have played meaningful reps
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Speaker 2: in this league that can give us some meaningful snaps
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Speaker 2: hopefully and continue.
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Speaker 4: To create that competition we're looking for.
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Speaker 2: So just getting to know him a little bit seems
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Speaker 2: like obviously he's a grown man and really cool to
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Speaker 2: get to know him a little bit. Here it's yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: a little bit. You obviously you want, like we talked
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Speaker 2: about the other day, waves of maybe some different types
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Speaker 2: of rushers at times. But you know, guys, when you're
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Speaker 2: when you're playing in the trenches specifically, you know when
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Speaker 2: you come in maybe you're a UDFA or or a
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Speaker 2: rookie in general, man, that size, that strength, that speed,
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Speaker 2: especially in the trenches is different for anybody, and.
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Speaker 4: So you know, there's always a curve.
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Speaker 2: There's always going to be a learning curve and a
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Speaker 2: physical growth curve that is going to need to occur.
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Speaker 2: But getting some of those guys that have established themselves
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Speaker 2: in this league and played meaningful snaps I think will
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Speaker 2: just help us maybe in times of maybe crisis and
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Speaker 2: just to maybe be a little bit more consistent in
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Speaker 2: some ways, knowing that we're pretty young as a team
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Speaker 2: in general.
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Speaker 5: As you hit into into mandatory on mini camp, just
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Speaker 5: what do you want to see in terms of growth
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Speaker 5: from Trevor and just how much growth have you seen
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Speaker 5: over the last ten.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, when you look at maybe
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Speaker 2: the first few days of OTAs and really even phase
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Speaker 2: two that we were out here on the grass, I
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Speaker 2: think his footwork has drastically improved. You know, I think
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Speaker 2: just the rhythm of playing the position in every system
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Speaker 2: is different, right, the drop of a quarterback is very
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Speaker 2: similar to a dance, and so each song right has
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Speaker 2: a different rhythm, Each play has a different rhythm, Each
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Speaker 2: systems have different rhythms, And so continuing to develop that
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Speaker 2: for him so that you know, we talk about footwork
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Speaker 2: so much because when the game is being played, we
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Speaker 2: know it's lived in the gray, but we're trying to
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Speaker 2: create black and white lines for footwork, for reads, for timing,
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Speaker 2: because when the things start moving, often times you have
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Speaker 2: to revert back to your fundamentals, your footwork, your timing,
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Speaker 2: And so I think he's taken a step in that
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Speaker 2: area as well as just the overall operation, Like that's
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Speaker 2: what I've really looked for for him in this time.
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Speaker 2: Has been okay, really focusing on his lower half in
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Speaker 2: his footwork, and then also just running the show, like
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Speaker 2: I'm not really judging. Does he make every single throw
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Speaker 2: right now? Is every single ball perfectly accurate right now?
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Speaker 2: Is he operating the offense at a high level? Yes,
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Speaker 2: he is right now?
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Speaker 5: How would you?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 3: Man?
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Speaker 2: I mean, it was a change up right down the pipe.
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Speaker 2: Might have gone four hundred over the left center field
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Speaker 2: somebody else, but I think it was about what I
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Speaker 2: was hutting up.
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Speaker 3: Is it supposed to be a changer?
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Speaker 4: Nah, Yeah, it was just it was cool.
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Speaker 2: I was downstairs kind of getting some practice in and
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Speaker 2: they had really cool technology that they're using down there
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Speaker 2: to simulate the opposing picture and what was learning some
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Speaker 2: of that stuff down there, and I was throwing a
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Speaker 2: couple of knuckles and curves. I was gonna maybe throw
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Speaker 2: that out there, but ended up just sticking with the
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Speaker 2: change up. All good, good for sure, Thanks guys the rookie.
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Speaker 3: Year you had last year.
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Speaker 1: Just to come out and be better than I was
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Speaker 1: last year, I'll just come out here each and every
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Speaker 1: day and just pushing myself to be the best that
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Speaker 1: I can be in see where that takes me. So
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Speaker 1: I just come out here and be the best that
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Speaker 1: I can be.
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Speaker 5: How much does that having gone through that rookie year
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Speaker 5: allow you to kind of be more comfortable, can be
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Speaker 5: a little bit more I don't know, like more yourself,
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Speaker 5: but you know, maybe more so than you were last year,
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Speaker 5: not as guarded.
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Speaker 1: Just being able to be around like all my teammates
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Speaker 1: and have some of the same guys here, some of
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Speaker 1: the same faces, being able to bond with.
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Speaker 3: Trevor and stuff.
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Speaker 1: It's, uh, it's been just been it's been pretty good,
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Speaker 1: just being able to have those bond have those bonds
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Speaker 1: and it's just gonna uh help us out going into
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Speaker 1: this year.
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Speaker 5: What's the biggest thing year more under God, out of
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Speaker 5: last season that.
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Speaker 3: Maybe wasn't football strictly on the field real later.
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Speaker 1: The biggest thing was, uh just probably like taking care
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Speaker 1: of your body. Uh how much how long the season
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Speaker 1: really is, how long this season actually is? So just
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Speaker 1: doing the little things, uh so like doing like prehabs
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Speaker 1: so you don't have to do rehab. Just taking care
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Speaker 1: of your body before uh things happen. So just being
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Speaker 1: being up on everything.
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Speaker 3: I feel like getting the Travis. Uh, it's been, it's
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Speaker 3: been pretty good, pretty uh pretty fun.
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Speaker 1: He's a fun, fun dude. Uh super cool, super chi Uh.
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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say that super super cool, super fun.
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Speaker 1: I mean he's just a fun gotta be around, a
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Speaker 1: lot of energy, uh super super fun looks.
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Speaker 3: Like, and a lot of drills just against each other,
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Speaker 3: kind of pushing each other a little bit. Yeah, for sure,
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Speaker 3: we compete in there everything we do.
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Speaker 1: We come out here each and every day, just coming
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Speaker 1: out here describing to be the best.
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Speaker 3: Before he was.
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Speaker 5: Gonna bother you, not stop talking and not stop asking
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Speaker 5: questions too.
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Speaker 3: Has he gotten to.
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Speaker 1: That for yet?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been.
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Speaker 1: He's been asking a lot of questions. But I mean
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Speaker 1: it's just him trying to be the best that he
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Speaker 1: can be. Uh, just like talking like throughout talking through
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Speaker 1: little things plays and while we running certain plays versus
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Speaker 1: the certain looks. So just like little things like that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he wants to be the best. We both
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Speaker 1: want to be the best. We just come out and
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Speaker 1: compete each and every day, and whatever he needs help with,
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Speaker 1: I'm gladly help him.
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Speaker 2: Getting when you.
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Speaker 3: Gotten to that point where you're like, health not another
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Speaker 3: question for me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I it would never be like that because
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Speaker 1: the guys that uh was here last year, they helped
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Speaker 1: me out throughout the throughout the whole season and they
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Speaker 1: were there for me.
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Speaker 3: So anything that he needs help with, I'll be there
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Speaker 3: for him.
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Speaker 1: Is that you have taken on more leadership role now
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Speaker 1: like you have some games and seasons.
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Speaker 3: Under your belt. Yeah, that's super important for me.
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Speaker 1: That's one of my goals this has become a better
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Speaker 1: leader and just be there for my teammates when when
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Speaker 1: they need me.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's super important for me.
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Speaker 4: I know it's only been like teen ota though.
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Speaker 3: What do you think about brands offing so far?
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Speaker 1: It's been Uh, it's been pretty good. U. I've been
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Speaker 1: liking it. Just getting adapted to it and learning the system. Uh,
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Speaker 1: it's been pretty good, pretty pretty fun. I've been liking
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Speaker 1: it for sure.
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Speaker 5: Right, differ between this year last year obviously you were
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Speaker 5: a rookie, But if somebody said how big the difference
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Speaker 5: is between the way you feel now in this time
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Speaker 5: last year, how would.
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Speaker 3: You describe him?
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Speaker 1: I felt way better this year than I did last year.
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Speaker 1: Just coming off a long like a long rookie season.
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Speaker 1: Well just with the combine, uh draft all that. Just
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Speaker 1: being able to have some all time take care of
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Speaker 1: my body and just come back and.
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Speaker 3: Be ready to go. I felt way better this this
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Speaker 3: this this season for sure.
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Speaker 5: The first time you saw draft it's out of here
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Speaker 5: on the field.
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Speaker 3: It was his first of all.
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Speaker 1: I actually came out here for uh, when they had
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Speaker 1: the rookie minic camp, I was up here, so I
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Speaker 1: came out. I just uh just stepped out here and
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Speaker 1: looked at looked at him doing like the drills and stuff.
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Speaker 1: It was really just how quick he was out and uh,
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Speaker 1: how detailed he was when he was like just he
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Speaker 1: might have got a drill room or something. He was
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Speaker 1: just hopping back in line, going right back at it
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Speaker 1: and trying to find ways to do it right and
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Speaker 1: t find ways to be the best that he can.
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Speaker 3: Be excited about the possibility you can him on one side,
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Speaker 3: You on the other.
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Speaker 5: Pretty excited about the possibility him on one side you
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Speaker 5: want another and how that's gonna work and and you
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Speaker 5: know how that's gonna take some attention away from you
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Speaker 5: or some coverage your way from you.
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Speaker 1: At times and I'm super excited just to have him
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Speaker 1: and Dianmi over over there on.
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Speaker 3: The other side.
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Speaker 1: I feel like they're both Uh they're both gonna play
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Speaker 1: a big role in the offense. Uh, They're both gonna
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Speaker 1: help us out and push us to go where we
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Speaker 1: wanna go. So yeah, I'm super excited to have both
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Speaker 1: of those guys out there with me.
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Speaker 2: What does that do for a defense that, you know,
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Speaker 2: against the opposing defense when you got two speechers on
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Speaker 2: the outside like that. You didn't really have that last
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Speaker 2: year with Christian getting hurt and Gage getting hurt.
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Speaker 3: H's just hard for hard for them to cover, just
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Speaker 3: or hard for them just locking in.
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Speaker 1: On one one person. So just being able to have two,
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Speaker 1: two or three guys out there that can run and uh,
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Speaker 1: really we all gonna do it all. We all can
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Speaker 1: do uh everything. So just being able to have that
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Speaker 1: that h it helps out the offense a lot.
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Speaker 3: Would have been like getting that except work. Oh it's
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Speaker 3: been super Goodan is a cool guy.
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Speaker 1: Uh been talking to him a lot. He was just
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Speaker 1: on the phone talking last night.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 3: So just getting to know him each and every day,
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Speaker 3: just building a bond with him. How's that working with
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Speaker 3: Trevor right, know when you guys had the first half
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Speaker 3: of the season, like, yeah, it was hurting.
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Speaker 1: It's been it's been good just getting to know each other,
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Speaker 1: uh just out here, spending time with each other, staying
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Speaker 1: after practice, getting some extra throws in, just to have
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Speaker 1: that uh have that that uh chemistry with each other.
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Speaker 1: So it's been uh super good just to be able
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Speaker 1: to bond with each.
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Speaker 3: Other, Right, Yeah, I definitely, I definitely like it.
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Speaker 1: Was growing uh each and every day, each and every practice,
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Speaker 1: like we just all coming out here to be the
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Speaker 1: best that we can be and we all just wanna
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Speaker 1: get better. So it's gonna it's gonna growing out next
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Speaker 1: RN